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Speaker 1: Your tuned about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Stealer Nation, how we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too. Our number two here of the drive

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Speaker 2: on this Thursday, March fifth, twenty twenty six. And Matt,

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Speaker 2: we have a fun exercise. This is I think something

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Speaker 2: we'll probably do again post free agency.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. When he needs, he needs.

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Speaker 2: Will be a little more defined and maybe some of

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Speaker 2: these guys that we're really interested in. Now, if you

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Speaker 2: go out and you nab someone in free agency, it

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Speaker 2: knocks that down the list of priorities. But we'll have

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Speaker 2: a bunch of different draft exercises that we are going

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Speaker 2: to do between now and the end of April. We'll

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Speaker 2: have mock drafts, we'll have the what I can't wait for,

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Speaker 2: but we'll probably start doing once a week after free agency.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers are on the clock at pick one. Who

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Speaker 2: you take it? Then they're on the clock at part two.

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Speaker 2: It's harder than you think, but it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: So we'll have a bunch of those exercises and the

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Speaker 2: one of them that will do a few times between

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Speaker 2: now and the end of April that we're gonna do

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Speaker 2: for the first time today is the prospects you would

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Speaker 2: trade right now or you would trade pick twenty one

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Speaker 2: for right now. So for example, I don't think that

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Speaker 2: this is going to surprise anybody, but I'm sure both

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Speaker 2: of us would give up the Steelers twenty first overall

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Speaker 2: pick right now, sign and blood for Fernando Mendoza of course.

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Speaker 3: So I have not given this much thought, but I

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Speaker 3: will say I start had to it however you want.

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Speaker 2: You'll be proud of me because yesterday you were like,

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Speaker 2: let's not make any lists ahead of time, let's just

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Speaker 2: do it live.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Last night, I'm down in the basement and I'm doing

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Speaker 2: my weird world of Matt Williamson. I'm thinking too much

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Speaker 2: about football while I, by the way, watch the watch

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Speaker 2: the finale of Night of the Seven Kingdoms last night.

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Speaker 3: Oh fun, huh awesome. I love those here.

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Speaker 2: It's just six episodes. They're all like thirty forty minutes long.

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Speaker 2: It's it's Game of Thrones, but it's not crazy difficult

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Speaker 2: to follow like Game of Thrones.

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Speaker 3: Right right, there's not that many characters.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny, like which episode there's like one or

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Speaker 2: two like gut busting funny jokes or moments. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: highly recommend Night of the Seven King. So, as I

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Speaker 2: finished that last night and it's that time of night

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Speaker 2: where I'm like, do I start a new show or something?

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Speaker 2: I really only want to stay up for another twenty

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Speaker 2: thirty minutes, I start thinking about this exercise. I was

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Speaker 2: literally like pulling up my phone to do the notes app,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: let's do it live tomorrow. I'm gonna save it for Matt.

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Speaker 2: So what I want to do here is we'll roll

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Speaker 2: through these names and we'll see there'll be a point

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Speaker 2: that we'll get to on this big board that will

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Speaker 2: clearly go Okay, we're done. But I want to see

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Speaker 2: how many were both yes on HM, the ones that

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Speaker 2: we differ, and then when we revisit that in a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks, like, hey, we had nine or ten

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Speaker 2: guys that we were yes on, we each had one

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Speaker 2: or two where we were different where you said yes,

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Speaker 2: I said yes, vice versa. So, and then we can

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Speaker 2: kind of keep tabs on this, you know, a few

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Speaker 2: weeks from now, check in see how it's changed all

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Speaker 2: those different things if that's cool.

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Speaker 3: With you, absolutely now. I wanted to preface it by

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Speaker 3: how I look at it, look at it however you want,

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Speaker 3: Like you mentioned styles, Like the answer for styles is yes,

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Speaker 3: but there's going to be a and then I am shopping,

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Speaker 3: Patrick Queen, you know what I mean? Like, sure, if

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Speaker 3: I traded twenty one for styles right now now, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna then do other things. I like, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Because it's not just like okay, we're just

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Speaker 3: gonna live with it, and I'll be honest. My bet is,

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Speaker 3: particularly in this draft, that I don't think I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: I just it's just such an important draft. Any first

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Speaker 3: round pick, it's just so important in this league for

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Speaker 3: early March, when some team might call and be like,

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Speaker 3: we can't get justin Jefferson signed. We need your first

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Speaker 3: this year, next year, like I don't have a first,

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Speaker 3: because I do think people are going to follow them

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Speaker 2: Okay, receivers, and I feel like then I might be

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Speaker 2: a little more liberal with my list than you are,

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Speaker 2: but I like your you have to explain what goes

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Speaker 2: with it. So like, for example, Fernanda Mendoza, Yes, Boom, I'm.

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Speaker 3: I'm probably wouldn't call Roger.

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Speaker 2: I'm calling up Aaron Rodgers and I'm saying, hey, you

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Speaker 2: know all that hanky panky that you were talking about

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Speaker 2: with your wife on the Pat McAfee show yesterday, you

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Speaker 2: got plenty of free time to hanky panky. We're going.

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Speaker 2: We're going with the young rookie out of Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Or I would be like, you want to come mentor

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Speaker 3: or you know. But I'm definitely not in on Willis

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Speaker 3: or anybody else. You just take them in. That one's

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Speaker 3: easiest one of all. That's the just take of franchise

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks for first round pick.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm going to go through here and uh,

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Speaker 2: I'll just I have mcshay's big board up here, so

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Speaker 2: we'll do this in his order. This isn't necessarily a

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Speaker 2: hard order, but it's very you know, he's got Jeremiah

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Speaker 2: Love as his number one prospect. Some others have sunny styles,

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Speaker 2: some have Caleb downs, you know, but he starts with

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love number one.

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Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, And I'm not like trading Warren or anything.

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Speaker 2: I would thank Kenneth Gainwell for his service.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm done then, obviously, I mean it. It would

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Speaker 3: really screw up Omar's plans. I'm sure totally, because I.

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Speaker 2: Don't love the idea of taking a running back in

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Speaker 3: But eventually there's a breaking point where he's too good

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Speaker 2: He's one of the two or three. We need to

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Speaker 2: have this conversation at some point. Maybe we can do

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Speaker 2: this in the next segment. You're you're chipped down on

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Speaker 2: one person from this class to make Canton in fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: He'd be a strong candia probably him or one of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the Ohio State defenders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're both yes on Jeremiah Love.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now there are gonna be a bunch of edge

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Speaker 3: he just kind of talked. That was two sides of

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Speaker 3: my mouth, Like I'll take styles trade Queen, but I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna just like take every edge guy and trade

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Speaker 3: herbig and Watt, you know what i mean. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's why he's gonna stick with where I'm at.

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Speaker 2: RFL Reese and David Bailey are very interesting conversations to

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Speaker 2: me in this regard.

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Speaker 3: And Bailey's and no, and Reese is a yes. And

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Speaker 3: I know Reese isn't super excited about it, but I mean,

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Speaker 3: like you're playing a linebacker in for a year or two, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna moonlight as an edge rusher and I'll

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Speaker 3: blitz you in all those things. I know that doesn't

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Speaker 3: make you thrilled. Maybe we will trade TJ in a

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Speaker 3: but I'd probably trade Queen then after that too. And

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Speaker 3: I like Queen a lot, Like he's just disposal peace.

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Speaker 3: But if you get one of these luxury guys like

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Speaker 3: resources too to get you the things you really need

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Speaker 3: because these are once these aren't neat you know.

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Speaker 2: That's why I guess I think you're right. Reese is

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Speaker 2: a different conversation because you could play him off ball

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Speaker 2: and something else with them, whereas man like David Bailey.

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Speaker 2: You're never going to be in a position to get

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Speaker 2: somebody that talented at pick twenty one, but he would

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Speaker 2: maybe be your fourth guy at edge rusher.

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, maybe you do move Highsmith or something, but

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Speaker 3: it's like, I don't know how. I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 3: giving up a premium pick that could have been my

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Speaker 3: number one receiver for that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we're both yes on Jeremiah Love. We're both

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Speaker 2: yes on Mendoza. Yeah, Sonny Styles, Yes, because he's that

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Speaker 3: But he's like the border. You better be a great prospect,

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Speaker 3: the blue chip prospect, and I think Styles is. And

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Speaker 3: if Queen wasn't up after this year, maybe I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: If this is a year ago and you just signed him,

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Speaker 3: I've never seen it, or if.

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Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson just came off of an outstanding season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm sitting there thinking Styles might be my

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Speaker 3: Lambert for twelve years, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: And he might be Ryan Shazier all over again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I might wouldn't have much invested in terms

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Speaker 3: of money at linebacker. You know. So he's a yes,

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Speaker 3: but if he was a ten percent less product, I'd

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Speaker 3: probably say no, Like, you better be pretty special in

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Speaker 3: a position like that.

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Speaker 2: So we have Love, we have Mendoza, we have Styles,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Downs, Yes, yes, yes, yes, I think so. So

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Speaker 2: those four, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean that's a need. He'd be your starter given right now,

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Speaker 3: then I have a starry safety. Unless you think it's

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Speaker 3: the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Styles is different because you could just argue with

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Speaker 2: me the value of the position. But I feel like

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Speaker 2: those four are pretty chalky, pretty easy. Yes, his Love, Styles, Downs, Mendoza.

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Speaker 3: They're just great players.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so we're we we agree on those.

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Speaker 3: The two positions. I mean there're two of your and their.

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Speaker 2: Two positions, exactly right, r VL Reese, we both yes

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Speaker 2: on him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he's good enough that he'd.

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Speaker 2: Say and you could do different stuff with him. Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So that's the top five on Macshay's big board. Number

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Speaker 2: six is David Bailey. I'm tempted, but I'm out because

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Speaker 2: it's just I don't.

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Speaker 3: Need to get too complicated. Four edge rushers at the moment,

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Speaker 3: exactly right, and I don't think he's a tremendous prospect.

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Speaker 3: If he was Nick Bosa coming out, you might convince me,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Uh, number seven on so so far we're six yes

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Speaker 2: is and one no. Yeah. Number seven on Micshay's big

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Speaker 2: board is vega Ion, a guard out of Penn State.

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Speaker 3: He may actually be there. Would you take it right

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Speaker 3: this minute? We picked him in the first round of

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Speaker 3: a mock. Recently we did kind of warming up to

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Speaker 3: the idea. I do think he is one of the

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Speaker 3: top ten players in this draft.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's so hard for me to pass up

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Speaker 2: because again I know for right now and for all

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Speaker 2: your needs and that, but.

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Speaker 3: I'm I think I'm doing it.

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Speaker 2: And again I know that you have to be careful

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Speaker 2: when you do these hypothetical things because I know that

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Speaker 2: for an exercise like this, I want the best players possible.

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Speaker 2: I'll figure out positional value and how it fits into mind.

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Speaker 2: If I can get a guy who might be the

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Speaker 3: I know, like maybe it's not the best way to

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Speaker 2: It's not drafting the guard in round definitely not.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the best way is given Isaac a little raise,

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Speaker 3: drafted one the third round, maybe he takes over. But

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Speaker 3: I really like this player same and I just think

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Speaker 3: what the line could be. Four fifths of it are sad.

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Speaker 2: He's top ten, top twelve on everybody's big board. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: everybody's big board. I think that's a yes for me.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a yes for me too.

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Speaker 2: Now this is one that could very easily change next

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Speaker 2: week because if they bring back Saymalu, or then bring

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Speaker 2: far six yes is one no for David Bailey, number

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Speaker 2: eight on his big board. Reuben Bain junior out of Miami.

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Speaker 2: That's a no.

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Speaker 3: That's a.

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Speaker 2: Number nine. Francis MAUI goa tackle out of Miami.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because I'm playing him a left guard and we

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's your left tackle worst case scenario. He's a

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Speaker 2: very good guard. I think I think I would with him.

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Speaker 3: I think I would too.

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Speaker 2: I think those are probably gonna be the only two

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Speaker 3: Say like I don't know about like fu some of

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Speaker 3: but it might not be the need for at least

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Speaker 2: And I think he could do like Zach Martin type

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Speaker 2: If worst case scenario, if he plays left guard for you,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Carnel Tate wide receiver Ohio State. Yes, Yes, that that

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Speaker 3: My receiver one. I just put my list in he's

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Speaker 2: It's eleven two or Tyson two Boston Boston too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like it. Curveball from Matt Williamson. Okay, So Carnal

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Speaker 2: Tait is a yes. So through ten here on the

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Speaker 2: big board we have eight yes's and two no's, the

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Speaker 2: only nose being sorry, yeah, the only nose being David

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Speaker 2: Bailey and and uh In Ruby Bain Junior. The true

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Speaker 2: edge rusher edge guys number eleven man Sword Delanne. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't think something.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to patch my little tear back together a

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Speaker 3: little differently and.

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Speaker 2: A little too much uncertainty there for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I that was Jaalen Ramsey coming out.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but yeah, I'm with you on that. Uh wide

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Speaker 2: receiver number two, Makai Lemon.

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Speaker 3: I know everyone's just say yes, I'm gonna say no.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say no.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I just think, what if Vega's there at twenty

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Speaker 3: I can't take him because I took Lemon. Like, there's

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Speaker 3: a chance that Lemon's on the board at twenty one

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Speaker 3: and he's not your first choice even yes, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, I don't want to have to

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Speaker 3: because he might be there. That's just kind of my

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Speaker 2: I think that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: for me, I think he's a a very good player.

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Speaker 2: He could very well be the best wide receiver of

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Speaker 2: this draft.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And if the Steelers take him at pick twenty one,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be in the least bit upset.

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Speaker 2: I might be thrilled, but I just I think he's

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Speaker 2: a little more scheme specific than some of these other

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Speaker 3: I do think he fits McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: I do think he does fit. I think it's it's

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Speaker 2: his his, Yes, that that eleven personnel that we're going

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Speaker 2: to live in with three wide receiver on the field.

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Speaker 2: I do think he's a fit for the Steelers. But

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Speaker 2: for the long term, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Ten days from now, I might be like, yes, I

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Speaker 3: will do it, sure because see them all who signed

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Speaker 3: a corner signed that's.

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Speaker 2: Like a wide receiver right right. Thirteen Monroe feeling out

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Speaker 2: of Georgia is a feeling or freeling sorry, freeling, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I keep saying that, No, it's free, it's free, right,

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Speaker 2: it's freeling.

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Speaker 3: No, But I like him, and left tackles are really

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Speaker 3: really valuable, and you should probably never turn your nose

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Speaker 3: up at a left tackle because you might be like

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Speaker 3: cooks on as good as I thought, and Jones neck

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Speaker 3: is bad and we really need one. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to just give you twenty one for him right now.

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Speaker 2: Not right now. Might change my opinion on that in

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Speaker 2: another week or two, certainly, maybe if they're not that

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Speaker 2: active in the offensive line marketing free agency. Fourteen on

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Speaker 2: this list Spencer Fanu tackle slash.

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Speaker 3: Guard, same thing, but I don't know that he'd be

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Speaker 2: That's you know what I mean, that's feeling thing for me.

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Speaker 2: I think I think Funu is a good pro prospect.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I would rather go Mauigoa if I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: bump one into if I'm gonna bump one into guard, yes,

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Speaker 2: I'll wait and see how that one plays out. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so so far, Note we're through fourteen no disagreements fifteen

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Speaker 2: Jordan Tyson wide receiver from Arizona State.

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Speaker 3: No because these medicals might be bad.

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Speaker 2: So this is that that's the kicker for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I so know. I put him forth on my

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Speaker 3: receiver list. I'm saying, I'm sorry to do this to you,

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Speaker 2: Medicals because it's almost for him. It's almost like an

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Speaker 2: incomplete for me, because if I knew that his medical

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Speaker 2: stuff was green light, he would absolutely be a yes

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Speaker 2: for me. But I just you get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: But we're not gonna know that until we see where

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Speaker 2: he gets drafted in late April and can kind of

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Speaker 2: read the tea leaves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we may leave the South Side Thursday night and

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Speaker 3: he's not picked. We're like, oh, they give up twenty one.

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Speaker 2: For exactly right, or he might go pick thirteen and

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Speaker 2: we're like, oh, well, okay, well the medical stuff was

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Speaker 2: fine then twenty one, So that one's almost like originally

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Speaker 2: it's like a tough. But as I sit here now,

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Speaker 2: I can't say yes. I if I knew the medical

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Speaker 2: stuff and it was clear, it's an easy yes, sure,

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Speaker 2: but I can't say yes as much as I do,

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Speaker 2: And if.

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Speaker 3: We as much knowledge as the NFL does, we probably

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Speaker 3: would know that decision. Yes, we just are never going.

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Speaker 2: To correct sixteen tight end one Kenyon.

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Speaker 3: No, but I respect it and I understand it the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, same. It's tough. It's just tough because of what

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Speaker 2: you have there already and what uh you know? That position.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if devalues the right term, but

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Speaker 2: maybe not as crucial of the element of the offense

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Speaker 2: now with with Arthur Smith gone.

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Speaker 3: I would probably shop Friarmooth if I did it, And

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Speaker 3: that's appealing.

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Speaker 2: It's not a terrible idea, right, but then.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna get your third round pick or something, and

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Speaker 3: I'm still not gonna be able to fill my number

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Speaker 3: one need on draft day.

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Speaker 2: Let's see here seven Denzel Boston, wide receiver out of Washington.

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Speaker 3: No, and I like him a ton, But it's the

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Speaker 3: same conversation, like he might be there and interesting.

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Speaker 2: You know, I thought I thought he would have been.

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Speaker 2: I thought he would have been a yes for you.

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Speaker 2: But that's interesting. I like it just because when you

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Speaker 2: told me he was wide receiver two for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really really like him. He's six y four

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Speaker 3: and he can return punts and you know, he does

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Speaker 3: a lot of really good things. It's just it's hard

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Speaker 3: for me to give up number twenty one right this minute.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen. I think this is an easy No. Keldric falk

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Speaker 2: d rusher out of Auber No easy.

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Speaker 3: Now, he wouldn't be eighteen on my board either.

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Speaker 2: Are there any other wide receivers we're going to say

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Speaker 2: yes for? Probably not No Omari Cooper Junior. He's number

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Speaker 2: nineteen on Mixhay's basic Really yeah concept and no, that's

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Speaker 2: what I mean.

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Speaker 3: If he the ones was a first round pick, I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't not saying I would disapprove.

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Speaker 2: Twentieth overall on his big board and a need safety

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Speaker 2: Dylan Fennemon out of Oregon.

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Speaker 3: Maybe because I love him. But what hurts themIn in

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Speaker 3: this conversation to me is I can give you six

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Speaker 3: free agents that I can that I can get it.

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Speaker 3: I think at a reasonable level. There's coming off their

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Speaker 3: first contract, and it's a really deep safety draft. And

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Speaker 3: I also don't know what Patrick Graham does. He need

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Speaker 3: the best pair of safeties in the league. He's never

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Speaker 3: had anything close. I bet he can make do with

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Speaker 3: a decent free agent signing and a third round pick

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Speaker 3: and use the pick somewhere else. Sure, but there absolutely

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Speaker 3: could be the case one draft day where I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I'll give you twenty one and one of the third

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Speaker 3: round picks to move up for theamen. But today I

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Speaker 3: can't concede the pick. But I get the idea you would.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of the down situation. You just plug them

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Speaker 3: in and now I just use my read. I don't

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Speaker 3: sign a safety.

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Speaker 2: Right right right. I think this is one that we

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Speaker 2: could have a clear yes or no in another week

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Speaker 2: or so. Yeah, yeah, and mad after that, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if there's really any people that are even worth

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Speaker 2: you know, Blake Miller out of Clemson, Peter Woods out

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Speaker 2: I would think, I got to know Mick Shay has

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Speaker 3: It's also the latest taste in my mouth is Dane,

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Speaker 3: who's definitely doubt in had him going into.

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Speaker 2: The second into the cannot I mean concept she own,

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Speaker 2: Emmanuel McNeil, Warren, Tys Simpson, but no.

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Speaker 3: Coy, No, no medicals might be worse.

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Speaker 2: Than exactly right, exactly right, Caleb blow Moves and No.

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Speaker 2: As much as I like them, Colton Hood, No, Maxie

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Speaker 2: and h R No, I mean, I like all these

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Speaker 2: guys twenty one. I'd give up fifty three for a

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Speaker 2: lot of these guys right now.

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Speaker 3: That could be a fun actualist too, but it'd.

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Speaker 2: Be a long live that would be a long longer.

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Speaker 3: LIT think there's anybody mentioned that I wouldn't give fifty

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Speaker 3: three up fore, even like the David Bailey's and Baines.

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Speaker 2: Yeah guys, yeah, right for sure, because they're just such

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Speaker 2: good at that value you can't pass it up on.

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Speaker 2: Would you get fifty three for ty Simpson right now? No,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I would either.

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Speaker 3: I me eat those words because I do think he's

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Speaker 3: got a really good chance to be a starter and

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Speaker 3: have a good career. I just want better than good

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Speaker 3: starter and good career. We've talked about it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go shopping at Toyota and Honda

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Speaker 2: for my franchise quarterback. I want to go to Mercedes

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Speaker 2: Benz and Porsche and BMW.

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Speaker 3: And if I have to save up a year to

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Speaker 3: go shopping in those, fine, I'll save up for a year.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'll pinch pennies for.

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Speaker 3: A year, right right, right, eat Ramen noodles.

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Speaker 2: I imagine for the fifty three conversation, would you say

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Speaker 2: yes to a lot of these defensive linemen at fifty three?

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Speaker 2: Like Banks at fifty three? Sure, Lee Hunter at fifty three,

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Speaker 2: Kadi McDonald three.

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Speaker 3: Just noses are hard for me to invest in. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the other's Yeah, a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of these wide receivers obviously at fifty a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably could go eight to ten deep on RESI.

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Speaker 2: I would, I would think. So that's a fun exercise.

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Speaker 2: So we both had yeses on Love Style Downs, Mendoza, Reese, Vega,

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Speaker 2: Mauigoa and Tate. We're both maybe's on Dylan Thinnemon. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna wait and see how free agency goes, and then

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep a maybe for medical reasons.

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Speaker 2: On Jordan Tyson. I don't think that that's gonna change

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Speaker 2: because we're not gonna get any new information.

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Speaker 3: Probably not. But if but like Tyson and McCoy might

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Speaker 3: work out at the Pro Day and be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I guess you're fine. That could happen a month or now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, and then maybe I'll change my answer

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Speaker 2: to it. Yes for for Jordan Tyson, who I just man,

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Speaker 2: I love that guy's tape. It's so much He is

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Speaker 2: so much fun to watch. That was a fun exercise, Uh,

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Speaker 2: something that we'll kind of keep tabs on and continue

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Speaker 2: to do as we roll along throughout the off season.

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Speaker 2: We've got to get to a break, more draft, more

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Speaker 2: big board, more free agency conversation. When we return West Shuoler,

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tune's about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal.

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. Back in the booth, back on the

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Speaker 2: drive here, we will get to your tweets to close

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Speaker 2: this thing. Down in just a few minutes, so get

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Speaker 2: those in while you can. At Williamson NFL. That's where

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Speaker 2: you find Matt at Wesley Yuler on the ex Twitter Matt.

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Speaker 2: An article by Ben Solak caught my eye on NFL

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Speaker 2: dot com kind of nine key questions ahead of free agency.

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Speaker 2: And some of these are topics that we've discussed plenty

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Speaker 2: over the last two weeks, but some of these are

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Speaker 2: newer and kind of different angles. So figure we'll run

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Speaker 2: through these. And for example, the first one is where

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Speaker 2: will Kyler murray Land. Obviously we've talked about that a

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Speaker 2: little bit. It feels like Minnesota, New York, Miami. Is

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Speaker 2: there any kind of dark horse that we haven't mentioned?

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Speaker 2: Falcon Cleveland. Cleveland's an interesting one.

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Speaker 3: I look at Cleveland, Miami and the Jets, but I

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Speaker 3: also think when we when you mentioned that he really

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Speaker 3: doesn't cost anything against your cap, why would he go there?

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Speaker 3: Like it might be a point where like, oh, they're

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Speaker 3: thrilled to get him, not that the Jets own in money,

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Speaker 3: but like Miami doesn't make money, Cleveland doesn't have any money.

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Speaker 3: That's the best player we can get for the No,

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Speaker 3: we don't have any money in our pocket, and that's

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Speaker 3: the best player we can get. But I would rather

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Speaker 3: do just about anything to go to those two teams.

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Speaker 3: If i'm him, I think he's more marketable than that.

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Speaker 2: I do too, And for him, a lot of it

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Speaker 2: is like, hey, do I want to just go somewhere

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Speaker 2: where I know I'm going to be the starter and

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Speaker 2: it's going to be my quarterback room. Do I want

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Speaker 2: to go and do the quarterback rehab thing for a year?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that he's bottomed out to that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. And he's only twenty eight years old.

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Speaker 3: And I understand why people are linking him to the

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Speaker 3: Steelers too, Like I think the Steelers at least have

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Speaker 3: to have that conversation. I just don't think it's the fit.

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Speaker 2: No, it's just it's Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: To me, he's probably the most obvious. I mean, if

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Speaker 3: he didn't burn the bridge, a team like Arizona would

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Speaker 3: make sense, you know what I mean? Like this, if

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Speaker 3: he was coming from the Jets, way go to Arizona. Right,

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Speaker 3: there's someone we're missing, like Indianapolis. I was going to

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Speaker 3: say the Colts, Like maybe the Colts should have not

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Speaker 3: transitioned Daniel Jones and just give Kyler a million as

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Speaker 3: opposed to giving Daniel Jones twenty eight million or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Because the thing about Jones that we didn't mention the

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Speaker 3: other day and we did the franchise tag talk is

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Speaker 3: askingon Rodgers. I mean every quarterback the year after their

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Speaker 3: achilles stinks.

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Speaker 2: Stinks, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean it's really hard.

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Speaker 2: And Aaron Rodgers had his in the first game of

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Speaker 2: the season.

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Speaker 3: And Rogers first month with the Jets was brutal, and

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Speaker 3: he got better and better and better.

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Speaker 2: Jones was after Halloween.

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Speaker 3: Right, like the chances of him being mobile, And I

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Speaker 3: don't know, man Ill of dice with Kyler for a million.

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Speaker 2: Now, Cleveland's a good call by you because you know

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Speaker 2: Monk and seeing that and being like, I can do

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Speaker 2: Lamar type things with him, Sill said.

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Speaker 3: Draft around him. Maybe we found our guy.

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Speaker 2: Question Number two are the Vikings in or out on

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. They don't have a general manager. They

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Speaker 2: got a lot of quarterback questions, They ming a lot

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Speaker 2: of contract dumping, a lot of contracts. But you know

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Speaker 2: they still have guys like Justin Jefferson, Christian Darris, saw

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Speaker 2: Byron Murphy Junior. They are a team that.

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Speaker 3: They'd have to hit on Kyler or somebody like that.

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Speaker 2: You know, cousins, Yeah, Gino.

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe McCarthy. The lights just turns on and

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Speaker 3: we just said we haven't seen enough and he's better

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Speaker 3: than we thought.

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Speaker 2: Sure, the boy.

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Speaker 3: The divisions, everyone's up picking forth.

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Speaker 2: That's also Yeah, the division is just brutal.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the way that's phrase. I think ben

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Speaker 3: so Luck does great work, by the way too, But

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Speaker 3: they in on twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're pushing all their chips in to

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Speaker 3: win it all now, like this is our last chance.

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Speaker 3: But it goes out saying.

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Speaker 2: Looking at it as a reset year.

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Speaker 3: I think it's probably a reset year.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think so too, unless JJ McCarthy ends

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Speaker 2: up being a guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, Jefferson's the one that gets You don't want

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Speaker 3: to waste another Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: Year or totally make him angry and say.

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Speaker 3: What are we doing here? We won fourteen games two

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Speaker 3: years two years ago and just fell apart. Trade me somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Question number three, will offensive line spending go bananas?

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Speaker 3: I think the answer is always yes.

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Speaker 2: The first truth, there's a lot of money in the

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Speaker 2: league right now. The second truth, it's not an amazing

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Speaker 2: free agent class but has impressive depth.

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Speaker 3: Tackles are terrible. There's like one or two starting tackles

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Speaker 3: that will get more than Dan more money.

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Speaker 2: He talks about Tyler Lindabaum being a big part of this,

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna get a bunch of good bunch of money.

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Speaker 2: And then just a lot of other, you know, talented

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Speaker 2: options that guard and tackle. Not as much a tackle,

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Speaker 2: more so a guard. I mean, I think the answer

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Speaker 2: to that is an obvious yes, because the answer is

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Speaker 2: always yes. He always offensive lines one of those positions

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Speaker 2: you hit the free agent market like Dann Moore junior day.

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Speaker 2: Moore junior is is one of the best thirty two

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Speaker 2: left tackles in the world. But he's getting paid like

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Speaker 2: a top ten.

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Speaker 3: Right, you know, Yeah, that's I mean, it's a terrible

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Speaker 3: place to shop. But even like I was slightly critical

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Speaker 3: of the Steelers for not drafting a whi or an

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman last year, Yes, but it totally added up

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Speaker 3: because they drafted so many the years. Yeah, but even

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Speaker 3: just really paying attention to that draft through that light

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Speaker 3: as it was happening in real time. Every offensive lineman

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Speaker 3: went at least around earlier than they should have. I mean,

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Speaker 3: a major tax on them.

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Speaker 2: That happens a lot too.

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Speaker 3: Has to say I sit here in February and March

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Speaker 3: and be like, bum the Steelers, I'm drafting two offensive linemen. Well,

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Speaker 3: that means you're drafting seventh round er in the fifth

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Speaker 3: you know, like that's the that's what the draft is

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Speaker 3: actually more interesting to me in this conversation than the

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Speaker 3: free agent offensive lineman, because you know, I want to

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Speaker 3: be in the free agent offensive lineman. The no way

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Speaker 3: to do it is get them the draft overspend there.

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Speaker 2: Right, pick your poison. Which players with the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 2: prioritize a lot of free agents Kenneth Walker, Kobe Bryant,

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Speaker 2: Reik wooland Josh Joe Rashid, Shaheed boy A Mafey.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what they're really going to prioritize, which

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Speaker 3: is a different way of looking at it, is extending Smith.

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Speaker 2: And the jig bench andspoon and like, which would probably

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Speaker 2: free up some cap space for this year in the process, and.

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Speaker 3: Then maybe you can make the next move at that

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Speaker 3: point too. Like all those names you mentioned are fine.

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Speaker 3: They helped them win the whole thing. But I bet

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Speaker 3: they're head coach slash defensive coordinators. Like they're all replaceable too.

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Speaker 3: I can coach these guys up. I can't coach up

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Speaker 3: Byron Murphy and.

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Speaker 2: Wetherspoon and yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah the safety they just drafted, and you know, like

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Speaker 3: those are all spokes in the wheel. But I'm going

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Speaker 3: to pay the big dogs coach up the other guys.

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Speaker 2: Free agency Question number five, how will the running back

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Speaker 2: dust Settle Baise Hall now is being tagged? Which you

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Speaker 2: have Super Bowl MVP? Kenneth Walker, Rico Daddle, Travis etn

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Speaker 2: Najie Harris, Tyler Algier, JK. Dobbins, Kenneth Gainwell, it's not

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Speaker 2: quite that twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Past said it's not super interesting.

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Speaker 2: And Josh Jacobs, but there's a lot of guys in

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Speaker 2: there who can play and certainly have value.

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Speaker 3: Walker is the one everyone's gonna have an eye on,

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Speaker 3: absolutely no, which worries me a little because he really

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Speaker 3: doesn't contribute in the passing game at all. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's Batten protection and he's a bad receiver, so what

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Speaker 3: someone might overpay for him? I bet the Steelers are

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Speaker 3: part of this, though I don't know that you can

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Speaker 3: go into the draft, Say, and I could just have

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Speaker 3: Johnson and Warren.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can.

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Speaker 3: I think that's nuts. You better sign one of those

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Speaker 3: names you just mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Agreed. Which edge rusher is the right edge rusher? Trey

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Speaker 2: Hendrickson thirty one years old, odafe O Way twenty seven

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Speaker 2: years old. Jalen Phillips doesn't turn twenty seven until.

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Speaker 3: May, which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Say, right, and I thought he was like pushing thirty.

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Speaker 3: I think Oway is finally starting to really grow into

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Speaker 3: his paws. Hendrickson worries me a little that his best

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Speaker 3: year was probably two years ago. I mean, he had

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Speaker 3: he probably won't do that again. He's probably a fourteen

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Speaker 3: sack thirteen sack guy, and he was never an elite athlete.

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Speaker 3: I think if I was paying what all of them cost,

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Speaker 3: it would be Phillips. He's really good already and he's

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Speaker 3: only twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: He's not he'll be twenty seven in May. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think if I was investing in any

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Speaker 3: of the three sticker price.

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Speaker 2: Where will Malik willis Land? I think so too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He's been linked to the Dolphins because all the

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Speaker 3: Green Bay connections now, but they don't have any money.

654
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: Maybe no money, and whenever they get rid of two it,

655
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: they're gonna have less money and a cruel twist.

656
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: If I were him, I'd rather do that than the

657
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: Browns or Dolphins or Jets.

658
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: Will the uh were the rise of the off ball

659
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: linebacker market. Keep up? You know last year Fred Warner,

660
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: Zach bah and Nick Bolton all got pretty sizable deals.

661
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: I don't think any of these guys are those guys.

662
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: But man, de Devin Lloyd.

663
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 3: Lloyd will get paid handsomely. Yes, then I don't know

664
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Speaker 3: that that's gonna be.

665
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: What happens with Tremaine Edmonds if he becomes becomes a

666
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Speaker 2: free agent.

667
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: You know, you have more options in this draft class too.

668
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Speaker 2: That's true. You guys like Devin Bush and Leoshanal and

669
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: you know Nikobe Dean who were coming.

670
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Lloyd'll get paid top of the market. Stuff.

671
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: Could be the highest paid linebacker instead and done. Yes,

672
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: but I can think Rodriguez in the second round. You

673
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Speaker 3: know what I mean.

674
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Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a intriguing second and third

675
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: round linebackers in this year's draft. I'm sure last one,

676
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: Matt And this is something that We've been asking for

677
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: a long time. In fact, we just talked about it

678
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: in the first hour of the show. What will the

679
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: Eagles do with aj Brown?

680
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: I think they'll aventually move them.

681
00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: I do too.

682
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: I think the he's way more complicated than anybody to

683
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: trying is just implying it might have to be like

684
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: an after June first, weird type of thing.

685
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: That's what that was gonna be mine. Do you think

686
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: he gets traded before after the draft? I think the

687
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: Eagles would like to move him before the draft.

688
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: I don't think they want he picks for next year.

689
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: But I don't that that's going to be tough to

690
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: make work in the in the confines of their tight

691
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: salary cap. Yeah, and just all the bonus money and

692
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: dead money and everything that's involved with a contract like his.

693
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I do think they love Devonte Smith and

694
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: want to give him a bigger role, and I understand that.

695
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say Brown does not play for the

696
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: Eagles this year. But that's kind of like sixty forty yeah, yeah,

697
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: give or take. Yeah.

698
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: I definitely would say it's more likely, But that's not

699
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: a that's not a best bet that I want to

700
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Speaker 2: place either.

701
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: Way, and it could get ugly. He might be like

702
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: I'm holding out or you know, sitting in or what.

703
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: You think he'll be doing, like t o you think

704
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: he'll be doing. He'll be doing a book. He'll be

705
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: doing sit ups in his driveway while all the Philadelphia

706
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: while all the Philadelphia media is assembled around, He'll pull

707
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: the weight bench out into the front of his mansion,

708
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: just start working out there and sit ups an answering questions.

709
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: That's still one of the most fun the funniest like

710
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: those are to and his stand off with the Eagles

711
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: just brings his way equipment out into his driveway and

712
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: the media is interviewing him while he's doing sit ups

713
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: and crunches and a workouts. Oh man, good stuff from

714
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: a different time. We've got one more segment to go.

715
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: You know what that means. We'll close things down with

716
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: your tweets. You know where to get at us if

717
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: you want to get involved. West Shooler, Matt Williamson, It's

718
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

719
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: Your tuns about Drive on your twenty four to seven

720
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

721
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 2: Final segment of the Drive here on this Thursday, about

722
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: to put a bow on another award winning edition of

723
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: The Drive. Here going it absolutely baby throughout the off season,

724
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: no sleep, no rest for the wicked. We rock and

725
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: we roll into free as.

726
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: The season ends. Not even a little no, not even

727
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: not even a little bit. No like one fewer show

728
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 3: a day in my in my life. But that's about it.

729
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: You make a head coaching change for the first time

730
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: in nineteen years, you host an NFL Draft, all that stuff,

731
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: all that's all that stuff, and you know you've got

732
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: not complaining.

733
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: But it's not like we're just put your feet up,

734
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: go get your eyes checked, or go to Dnnis things

735
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: like that done?

736
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: It is. I was laughing with my wife, like when

737
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: I first started with SNR, we would all like do

738
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: shows through the combine and then it was it would

739
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: slow down like crazy, yeah, like I think you and

740
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: Dale would do three days a week motes and I

741
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: would do two days a week and that was about it.

742
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: And I and I would always say to my wife

743
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: like this is maybe a little too light, like I

744
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: want to do a little bit more.

745
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: Like it was easy to do three days a week, Yes.

746
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: Two days a week. I was like, this is we

747
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: could be doing a little bit more and I could

748
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: be making a little bit more money, you know. But

749
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: now I'm like, now, it's like, hmm, I'm not I'm

750
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: not complaining. I'm certainly not in the work and every thing.

751
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: But I'm like a.

752
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: Random Wednesday because a long way like my oil's need

753
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: to change forever.

754
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: Well, how about this? How about Thursday, March twenty six?

755
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: Does that sound good to you? Okay, it's a random

756
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: day to take off, Okay, because I'm going to be

757
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: in Chicago with my dad going to the Cubs opener

758
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: on that day.

759
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: Schedule like all my stuff three weeks.

760
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: From today, Schedule all your stuff because West is going

761
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: to be at Wrigley Field with his Chicago dad, my oil. Yeah,

762
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: I told you this plan. But I'm sure our listeners

763
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: will love him.

764
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: No, I love it.

765
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: My dad is from Chicago, born and raised. Now he's

766
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: been in Pittsburgh for almost forty years. He got his

767
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: first job here with the Symphony when he was when

768
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: he was twenty three. He's now sixty one. So yeah,

769
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: he's been here for like thirty eight thirty nine years.

770
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: I know it was that long, but wow, he has

771
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: been converted. He loves the He still roots for the Bears,

772
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: but he's a bigger Steelers fan. Still roots for the Blackhawks,

773
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: but he's a bigger Penguins fan.

774
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but obviously the Bulls.

775
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: Are but still the Bulls. The Bulls and the Cubs are.

776
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: Like in twenty sixteen, I was living in Philadelphia when

777
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: the Cubs finally won the World Series and like the one

778
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: hundred and eight year streak. I FaceTime my dad and

779
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: he's crying like a baby. Yeah. Like, so he has

780
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: always wanted to take me to Wrigleyfield for a Cubs game.

781
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: We've never been able to work it out because of

782
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 2: like me working in sports, and the schedule and the timing,

783
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: and he's retired and he's retired now you know, he

784
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: was in the symphony. And so we are going to

785
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: the Cubs home Open or Thursday, March twenty sixth. We're

786
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: flying out of Pittsburgh in the morning. His like best

787
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: buds are picking us up. The four of us are

788
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: going to the game, We're going to dinner, and we're

789
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: flying home all in one day.

790
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

791
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: He called me like two weeks ago and was like,

792
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: do you think we got tickets? Do you think we

793
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: can make this work. I was like, Pops, he was like,

794
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: he was like, I'll pay for everything. He's like, I

795
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: just want you to go with He's like, I got

796
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: the flights, my buddy's got the tickets, Like I just

797
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: want you to be there with us. And I was like, Pops,

798
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: will make it happen. Let's do it.

799
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: Cool.

800
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: So March twenty sixth, I'll be taking a maintenance day.

801
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 2: I'll be taking a veteran's all right.

802
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: I guess I should make an eye appointment for Mark.

803
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: You got three weeks out to let you know, because

804
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: West will be with Theville and and I don't know,

805
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: not not whatever famous food the Chicago dogs, that's I'm

806
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 2: almost wanted to say Dodger dogs. For a second, I

807
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: was like, that's not right.

808
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: That's l A beef is in there in Chicago too.

809
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: Oh it sure is. They've got some good some good

810
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: food options there in the Windy so for sure.

811
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, maybe show I thought, yeah, it's been

812
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 3: talking Game of Thrones earlier.

813
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: Of all, like the current right now shows it's it

814
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: might be number one for me, so good. Matt Jordan Schultz.

815
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 2: Of course, NFL Insider reporting, uh much kind of what

816
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: you alluded to in the first hour of the show,

817
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 2: that the trade market for Max Crosby is heating up.

818
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: Teams have gotten teams have gotten the sense that the

819
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: Raiders are ready to make the move, and it's a

820
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: situation that quote is only going to intensify.

821
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, I don't think it's only the Bears same.

822
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: I think the Patriots could make a ton of sense.

823
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: I heard the Eagles, but I don't know how that works.

824
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 3: Their money, but they always make it work. I almost

825
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: when we were talking about a J. Brown, I'm like,

826
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: could a J. Brown go to the Raiders and Max

827
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: and you know something happens there?

828
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: What about someone like the Bills, like just pushing all

829
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: their chips in.

830
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't think you do it after DJ Moore, Yeah,

831
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: I mean yesterday you might have convinced me because I

832
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: just know they're up against the cap. Wise, I look

833
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: at like the Lions that might be slipped starting to

834
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: go backwards a little like, can we just make a

835
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: big move to get us back on top. Hmmm. I

836
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: mean there's like the Bucks of the world that could

837
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: definitely use them. I mean it's not hard to come

838
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 3: up with. Teams have someone who makes a ton of sense.

839
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: I do think he moves soon. I can cut feels

840
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: that way.

841
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: It's certainly, certainly such.

842
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: A big contract. You'd like to know these things before

843
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: the league year.

844
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: Starts, before the league year starts, before free agency, in

845
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: the draft and all that stuff. Let's see here, Let's

846
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: get to some tweets as we close this thing down.

847
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: T mac tweets us and says, where are we on

848
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: the Brian Thomas junior trade train? What would you be

849
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: willing to give up? I like Ayuk, but coming off

850
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: major injury, off field issues, I think parlaying him might

851
00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: be bad for the nest.

852
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: I get that. I understand the immense amount of variance

853
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 3: with an Ayuk move. Yes, I'm not even saying risk

854
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: because I don't think it's gonna cost you an arm

855
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: and a leg. We're trading for him a year or two,

856
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: would it would been way more. I love Brian Thomas,

857
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan, not as much as Kaylen Williams

858
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: love taking sacks last year.

859
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: But I worry a little.

860
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 3: I'd give you a second. I mean, because he's young,

861
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: cost controlled, all that stuff's wonderful. You could still You're

862
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: still allowed to pick up his fifty year option. But

863
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: and he's probably as good option as you can get.

864
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's an equal prospect as anyone

865
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: coming out in the draft, give or take a little

866
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: more refined. My only butt is the McCarthy offense. We

867
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 3: talked a lot about this with like Nate Tye and

868
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: people at the combine. Thomas is not an instant, get

869
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 3: open guy. He's kind of a long build up, beat

870
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 3: you over the top, kind of got that guy, you know,

871
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: But that'd be an awesome Twin Towers on the side

872
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: with Wandell Robinson or somebody doing the little stuff. But

873
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: I don't know that he's going to beat you on

874
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: the quick slant over and over and over to death

875
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: with you know, initial quickness. So stylistically he's not my favorite,

876
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: but an opportunity to get someone that talented this stage

877
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: of his career a ones off the table. But yeah,

878
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 3: more or less, Yeah, I mean certainly like two threes.

879
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: Third this year and a fourth next year that you

880
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: just want to do it.

881
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they need more than that.

882
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: Corbin tweets us and says, does Mike McCarthy being an

883
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: offensive minded head coach guarantee that the Steelers first pick

884
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: will be an offensive player. No, No, I don't think

885
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: it guarantees, but I think it shades that way. Is

886
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: that a fair way to put it?

887
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't phrase it because of who the head

888
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: coach is. I think it's because the quarterbacks come next year,

889
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: this nest, you know what I mean, Like, maybe there's

890
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 3: a d tackle that we're convinced, maybe they're light on

891
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: corners and free agency, and you grab one of those guys,

892
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: maybe it's them in But that's only like four names

893
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 3: I could come up with that are possible on defense,

894
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 3: where I got ten on well, or ten I mean

895
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: two or three zero linemen.

896
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Speaker 2: Even more.

897
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Speaker 3: Yes, maybe we couldn't get to ten. But I know

898
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: what you're saying, but I think it's just more important

899
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 3: to build a young nest for the quarterback next year

900
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: than it is to I'd love to get young and

901
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: talented on defense too, but I just think the offense

902
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: needs more work.

903
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: For big picture, I agree, and I we all know

904
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: they got to add some wide receivers for sure, but

905
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: with how deep this class is, they could go a

906
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Speaker 2: different direction with the first pick and then still address

907
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: that in round.

908
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: Two receiver could be very useful.

909
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: With one of their Trio Alabama or Jeremy Sudsh tweets us.

910
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: And so how do you feel about signing a free

911
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: agent safety and still drafting one. I feel like there's

912
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: solid value in both the free agency pool and the

913
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: draft class.

914
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: That's my exact plan.

915
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And if it's a if it's a Dugger

916
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: or a Malik Hooker who's like your third guy. Yeah,

917
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: and then and then you draft somebody or I.

918
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: Mean like I'm signing my starter. I'm signing a starter

919
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 3: and then take a.

920
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: Third or fourth round safety something like that. Yeah, okay, and.

921
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: I'm going to get like Cook from Kansas City or

922
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: what's because name the dude, dude from the Colts.

923
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, five years old.

924
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite targets in free agency. Pay

925
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: him a little more than you think he should have

926
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Speaker 3: him for the next three four years, and then throw

927
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: a third round safety in the mix. I think that's

928
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: the approach. And that's why I didn't want to give

929
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Speaker 3: up twenty one for THEAMN, just because if I if

930
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: you do that move, if you signed Cook or one

931
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: of these other, then I don need three starters there.

932
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Speaker 2: You know, last tweet of the day here to uh

933
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Speaker 2: to us down on this Thursday, goes to Smooth Dave,

934
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: who says, hypothetical, let's say that the Steelers land Malik Willis,

935
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: how good of a year would he have to have

936
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Speaker 2: to prevent you from drafting a quarterback from this class

937
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: next year? I would hate to miss out on a

938
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Speaker 2: great quarterback class and be in quarterback purgatory with a

939
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: average quarterback on a nice contract. I mean, it's a

940
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: great question. It's a it's a very good hypothetical.

941
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's also really one hard. That's one it's

942
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: hard to answer, you know, Like I can't be like

943
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 3: he has to be this has to be his interception

944
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 3: to touchdown rations.

945
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: I think he would have to be.

946
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Speaker 3: I don't know, like if we just did like EPA

947
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 3: or some advance that if he was top fifteen, I

948
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't I mean, if you have the

949
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: fifth pick in the draft and there's a great one there,

950
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 3: I don't don't think you'd say no, no matter what, because

951
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Speaker 3: you could you could trade Willis again, like that was

952
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: a successful year, he was good. I don't know if

953
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: he's the answer. I bet I can flip for a

954
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 3: third round pickure that's a good point because he's under

955
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: assume he's the sixteenth.

956
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 2: Best quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, somebody would, somebody would

957
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 2: sign up for his service.

958
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 3: I think my short answer would be, like, he has

959
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: to show me a lot.

960
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: Like almost an all pro caliber.

961
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: That he can become enough pro. I don't need him

962
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 3: to be one of the top five quarterbacks in the league.

963
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: But like, oh, he's striding that direction.

964
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: And he's only twenty six, twenty seven.

965
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like Greg co Sell, as usual, had

966
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: a great conversation about this. He's like Willis only threw

967
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: two hundred passes or whatever. He's never thrown or I

968
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Speaker 3: forget how crazy he said, he's never thrown more than

969
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: twenty three passes in a game. I think that was

970
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: the number. Maybe it's twenty one, maybe it's twenty four.

971
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: I don't know, and he's gonna have to you know.

972
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 3: Like my question is, and I think he's the best

973
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: running but quarterback in the league right now. I mean

974
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: think he's veteran Lamar. I think he's better now and

975
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: all those guys debatable, but I don't know, can he

976
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: drop back thirty times against Matthew Stafford, you know what

977
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: I mean? Like that, that's where I needed my quarterback

978
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 3: to be. I just haven't seen it totally. There's glimpses

979
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Speaker 3: that he can, but I need that question to answer yes,

980
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: and if he's an eighteen game.

981
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Speaker 2: Starter, so you would you get that question answer?

982
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna play the Bengals once or twice in

983
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 3: a game that's a race to forty And can you

984
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: hang with Joe? We'll see, we'll see.

985
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a fun hypothetical. That's an interesting hypothetical.

986
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Speaker 2: But that will do it for us today. Thanks to

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Speaker 2: everybody for the tweets one or two there that we

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Speaker 2: didn't have time to get to, but I'll bookmark him

989
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Speaker 2: and we'll save them for tomorrow. Tomorrow will be Friday

990
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Speaker 2: on the show, matt I'm not sure I can tell you.

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Speaker 2: I could tell you this. We'll have some more news

992
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Speaker 2: of the day. We'll have some more cuts and releases

993
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Speaker 2: and kind of the last day to tee us up

994
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Speaker 2: before we get to that negotiating period and free agency

995
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Speaker 2: and the bullets really flying next week. But that will

996
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Speaker 2: do it for us for today. Thanks to Justin Miller

997
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Speaker 2: on the ones and twos, mister TV Tyler V on

998
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Speaker 2: the video side, producing things, keeping a sharp on YouTube,

999
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Speaker 2: and of course for the great Matt Williamson Umwest Hueler.

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Speaker 2: Take care, everybody, we'll talk to you tomorrow. As always,

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Speaker 2: you know where to find us. It's on your twenty

1002
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Speaker 2: four to seven Home of the Black and Gold Steelers

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Speaker 2: radio on the Steelers Audio Network.