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Speaker 1: And I'm very proud of all those things that I am,

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Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, Emily ABOUDI here.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to episode one sixty nine of Hurdle,

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Speaker 3: a wellness focused podcast where I sit down with inspiring

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Speaker 3: individuals to talk about their big wins, tough moments, and

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Speaker 3: everything in between. On the show, what you can expect, vulnerability, motivation,

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Speaker 3: and candidate discussions with everyone from top athletes and CEOs

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Speaker 3: to aspiring entrepreneurs.

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Speaker 2: On what it really takes to follow your passions.

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Speaker 3: My mission is simple to inspire you to be your

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Speaker 3: best self, move with intention, and have some fun along

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Speaker 3: the way. Today I am talking to Sergeant Samantha Schultz.

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Speaker 3: She is a modern pentathlete in the Army's World Class

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited to bring you this episode because I

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Speaker 2: learned so much recording it.

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Speaker 3: This was a collaborative effort that I undertook with the

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Speaker 3: Army where I headed out to Fort Carson near Colorado, Springs,

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Speaker 3: Colorado and was able to train alongside Sammy and really

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Speaker 3: get some insight into everything it takes to be a

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Speaker 3: part of the world class athlete program. In today's episode,

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Speaker 3: Sammy brings us on the journey of how she became

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Speaker 3: a modern pentathlete, which, in full transparency, I knew very

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Speaker 2: She explains the entire rundown.

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Speaker 3: The sport includes a slew of different events, from swimming

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Speaker 3: why she chose this sport and what it's been like

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Speaker 2: Leading up to the Olympic Games.

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Speaker 3: She also gets really vulnerable talking about what it was

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Speaker 3: talking with Sammy training with Sammy. A huge, huge thank

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Speaker 2: And I know that you're going.

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Speaker 3: To learn a lot listening to this episode, just like

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Speaker 3: I did getting together with her. Obviously, Sammy is an

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Speaker 3: me to talk to perhaps lesser known athletes detail their struggles,

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Speaker 3: detailing the hurdles that they face along in their journeys.

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Speaker 3: So I'm so excited to shine a light on the

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Speaker 3: modern Pentapolon and to give you some insight into what

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Speaker 3: it means to be both a part of the Army

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Speaker 3: best of the best. As always, I make sure you're

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Speaker 3: following along with Hurdle Over at Hurdle Podcast, I'm over

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Speaker 3: at Emily a Body Last Thing. For more information on

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Speaker 3: the World Class Athlete program, make sure to head on

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Speaker 3: over the show notes and click the.

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Speaker 3: And with that, let's get to hurdling.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting down with sergent Samantha Schultz. She is training

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Speaker 2: How you doing, I'm doing great. How are you? I'm

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Speaker 3: We are sitting here at Fort Carson in Colorado Springs. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say we just went for a run, but

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Speaker 1: To be fair, that was a pretty challenging run. That

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Speaker 3: We have so much to get into, ranging from your

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, how long do you have so modern pentathlon

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is a little intimidating. I mean, especially just

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Speaker 3: That, But what's involved in that, Like give us some

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Speaker 1: So you're basically when you go off, you go into

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Speaker 4: And it's just grueling. For the first couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: It's more than just like running around in formation though, oh.

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Speaker 3: Right right, and something that we haven't addressed yet. And

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Speaker 3: I think a big misconception about getting involved in military

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Speaker 2: So what do you do?

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Speaker 3: You're such a petite human, Like, how did you get

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Speaker 2: Was working with the trucks?

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Speaker 4: Also? Wait, what does AT stand for Advanced Individual Training?

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Speaker 4: I do too. There's still a lot I'm like, what

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Speaker 2: My goodness, show?

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Speaker 4: That kind of fell. It just fell into play.

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Speaker 1: It worked out well to where I would go straight

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned the hurdle of not making it to Rio.

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Speaker 4: I was physically ready to go.

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Speaker 2: To dragons for sure. The monster.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I had been encouraged to work with a

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Speaker 1: A huge aspect that I've been working on is that confidence.

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Speaker 3: parallel can be drawn to a therapist. Until you start

442
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: working with someone who has this outside POV, you or

443
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 3: I at least thought for so long it's like, oh,

444
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 3: I can just go with my girlfriend to get wine

445
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 3: on Wednesdays and it's totally the same thing.

446
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 2: It's so not totally the same, not at all, not

447
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: at all.

448
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: I just mentioned wine, and you mentioned also having access

449
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 3: to a registered dietitian and to having nutrition coaching. How

450
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 3: has I mean, you're training constantly, so how have you

451
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 3: learned more about what your body needs, what your nutritional

452
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 3: needs are. I'm sure it's completely different the stuff that

453
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 3: you're putting into your body now versus before you had

454
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: all these resources.

455
00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 4: Right.

456
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: Nutrition is a huge aspect of being an athlete, and

457
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: everyone always assumes, oh, you do five sports, you can

458
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: probably eat whatever you want. It's like, okay, I probably could,

459
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to feel very good. I know

460
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: that they need to put good things into my body.

461
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: And having injuries. When I had surgery in twenty twelve,

462
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: I've had stress fractures. Even earlier this year, I had

463
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: some really bad planifaestiotis issues and how to be in

464
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: a boot. So because I probably pushed things a little

465
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: bit too much during COVID overdid things in some areas

466
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: and I wasn't feeling myself enough. I even have that

467
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: mistake now. So working with nutritionists and being able to

468
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: have resources such as a dexascan blood work, because things

469
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: can look good on paper, but actually getting more of

470
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: that data and sitting down with someone to analyze it

471
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: and make sure am I actually eating the right things?

472
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: Because I could be eating healthy, but am I absorbing

473
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: that stuff correctly? Am I timing my nutrition to be

474
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: able to get the most out of it? Like is

475
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: my bone density okay? Is my body fat where it

476
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: needs to be for what kind of sports I'm doing,

477
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: so learning more about it and I love that kind

478
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: of stuff. I'm so interested in it. And being able

479
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: to talk and utilize someone that has that knowledge and

480
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: that experience has helped me go as an athlete. And

481
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: I think you're always going to battle those injuries when

482
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,239
Speaker 1: you're pushing your body to that limit. You're always going

483
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: to have that So you kind of need someone to

484
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: oversee that at times and be like, what did I

485
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: do wrong? Or where did I go wrong? What can

486
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: I improve? Because I think there's always room for improvement,

487
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: Like you can think you're doing something well, but there's

488
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: like that one percent better every day that adds up.

489
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it definitely adds up.

490
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 3: And obviously we talked about you going through a point

491
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: where you were overtraining, whether it be around RIO or

492
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: during COVID. When you have this much insight into your

493
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 3: nutrition and you get into that nitty gritty, is it

494
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: easy to take the nutrition too far as well?

495
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, talk to me about that.

496
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: I think being a female in sport, there's always like

497
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: a state and of what you need to look like.

498
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: And social media you see a lot of people that

499
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: look I may look amazing, they look incredible, and you

500
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: want to look that way and regardless if it's real

501
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: or not. And so I think that standard of I

502
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: need to eat healthier so that my body can look

503
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: this way or that way, and comparing ourselves to other

504
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: people and we're all different, and especially as a pentathlete,

505
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 1: we have so many different aspects, like I'm not going

506
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: to look the same as a runner, I'm not going

507
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: to look like a swimmer. And being able to embrace

508
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: what my body has to offer, like my legs provide

509
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: me power. I may think my quads are huge, but

510
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: they provide me power to do the things I need

511
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: to do.

512
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: And food is fuel.

513
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: So trying to kind of change things around in my

514
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: head of a better mantra that providing myself with good

515
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: nutrients in my body and just monitoring it and sometimes

516
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: the calorie tracking actually it can be detrimental, but knowing too.

517
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 1: It's like ignorance isn't always bliss, Like you kind of

518
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: want to know to some ass but in a healthy way.

519
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: So finding that balance and even working with my sports

520
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: psychologists and nutritionists on that kind of stuff to be

521
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: able to say I don't feel comfortable eating this, they're like, Okay,

522
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: we'll change this around. So being able to know myself

523
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: too and speak up for things. I'm like, I don't

524
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: think that's going to work. Can we change this? So

525
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: being able to stand up for yourself, know what you need,

526
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: and just not judge others and what their path is

527
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: because your path is going to be completely different.

528
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's path is so different.

529
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: And the fact that, I mean, you are a pro athlete, right,

530
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: like you're going to the Olympics. So these things that

531
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 3: we're talking about, what you're eating, how you're feeling, this

532
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 3: is part of your job, which at times, as I've

533
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: had so many conversations with such excellent professionals, can be

534
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: inherently very stressful, right because if something goes wrong, if

535
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: something's off, it's frightening, it shakes your foundation. But as

536
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: you said before, talking about all the different roles that

537
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 3: you have in this life of being a friend, a friend,

538
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: a daughter, a wife, a soldier, like being an athlete

539
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 3: is just one part of who you are.

540
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: Right absolutely, And like you said, it's very important what

541
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: you put into your body. And I also think too,

542
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: that's what you surround yourself with too. Those people you

543
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: surround yourself with people that support you and family, friends,

544
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: the army team that I have, that support system that

545
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: you have around you, they're gonna help you and they're

546
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: not gonna be around you be like, well, why aren't

547
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: you drinking this beer? Like why aren't you why aren't

548
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: you eating this? It's like, you shouldn't be judging me

549
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: for what I'm doing. You should be supporting me and

550
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: what I do. And so having friends and people around

551
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: you that will support that and not be so judgmental

552
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: of it. And there's always going to be that, but

553
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: I think to just being able to be more firm

554
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: on like there's always time to have that cheat meal

555
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: or to treat yourself. You can't just live life never

556
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: looking at a piece of cheese or chocolate or wine.

557
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: You need to have times and there's like different season

558
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: in our life that we can enjoy that. But it's

559
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: as an athlete you do have to be that much

560
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: more regimented on what you do and because yeah, my

561
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: body is my job, essentially training hard and being able

562
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: to perform my duties as a soldier athlete.

563
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 3: It's interesting you said that there can be seasons for

564
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: different things, referencing like what we're putting into our bodies. Perhaps,

565
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: like right now the season is a lot more strict

566
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: than it would have been a year or two years ago.

567
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: But there's also seasons as we're referencing of relationships, right

568
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: And I feel like.

569
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: This topic keeps coming up on the show.

570
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: But having the mindset that sometimes you have to be

571
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: a bigger person and you have to be okay with

572
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: letting people play a role in your life that you

573
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: didn't expect for them to play. So I'm sure as

574
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: your training as ramped up as you've had to kind

575
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: of reprioritize a little bit, it has been a little

576
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: bit difficult perhaps for you to take some space from

577
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: some relationships that at other times had been really prominent

578
00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: for you.

579
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: Relationships and it like time is I always just say

580
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: I wish I had more time. I've missed out on

581
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: a lot of friends events or weddings or things because

582
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: of competitions or I just can't travel taking leave for army.

583
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: It can be challenging at times and being able to

584
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 1: say no and just say like I can't do that,

585
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

586
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: It is really hard and.

587
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: It has challenged a lot of friendships in relationships, and

588
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: I know my husband, He's like I just sometimes you

589
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of time and it's hard. And

590
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: I never saw myself getting married as an athlete, and

591
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: so I am so grateful that our relationship is the

592
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: way it is and he has been so understanding. But

593
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: I think after the Olympics, it's like, there is going

594
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: to be that time where we get to spend more

595
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: time together.

596
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 4: In COVID we did. We were living together.

597
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: As our first year of marriage, and so we did

598
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: get more time together, whether we liked it or not.

599
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: But I think that was also good. It challenged us

600
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: to grow in different ways. And it's challenge me to

601
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 1: go in different ways or find different ways to connect

602
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: to people because I might not be able to be

603
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: there in person with them, but being able to just

604
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: send a quick text, hey, thinking to you, I'm sorry

605
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: I can't be there, being able to still stay connected

606
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: in that way. And I think they understand and they

607
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 1: know and they see that journey and I'm on and

608
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: they support it. And if they don't support it, that

609
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: relationship may rebuild itself afterwards, I hope.

610
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

611
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm gonna tell you a story about when

612
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: I learned about opportunity costs. So I mean, as you

613
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: and I have spoken about a big runner training for

614
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: lots of marathons and going hand in hand with all

615
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: this training that I'm doing, all the training that you do,

616
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: is this idea of opportunity costs and that there are

617
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: going to be things that you have to let go

618
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: by the wayside a little bit in order to pursue

619
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: an opportunity, I e.

620
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: For you, the games, for me a marathon.

621
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: I'm out to drinks with a girlfriend for her birthday

622
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: and we're both training for the New York City Marathon.

623
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: I think this is like I want to say, like

624
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: three years ago, are this beautiful top bar in New

625
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: York City, but we're having one drink.

626
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: That's it.

627
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: It's our birthday, but like we've got a long run.

628
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: The next day, we're there for one drink and a

629
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: man walks up to us at the bar and he says,

630
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: can I buy you a shot? Like the two of

631
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: us and we're like nah. And he's like, wow, you

632
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: guys are like real downers. And we're like, well, we're

633
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: we have a long run tomorrow. We have like we're

634
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: gearing up for this thing. We're training for the marathon.

635
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: He's like, wow, that's a really big opportunity cost. And

636
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: I had never heard the term before. So this man

637
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: like twenty stories above, like over Manhattan. We're like staring

638
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: at the World Trade Center.

639
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

640
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: He starts schooling me and like what this means and

641
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: how he I must really value like running the marathon.

642
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: And you take a step back and you ask yourself, like,

643
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: what is it about this that makes this opportunity cost

644
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: worth it? And I think that sometimes at first, whether

645
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: it is with like becoming a morning exerciser or maybe

646
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: eating a little healthier, it's like you have to start,

647
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: and starting him be the hardest part. But once you

648
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: start and get a taste of why this thing is

649
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: so good, why this thing can help you so much,

650
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: then you fully start to understand the opportunity cost, right,

651
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: and that opportunity cost it isn't something that phases you

652
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: once you have a full ability to articulate why this

653
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: thing is so good for you. So so often I

654
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: mean going back to the idea of like morning workouts,

655
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: for example, people are like, how do you do that?

656
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: And in my head, for the most part, maybe not

657
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: over the last forty eight hours, but in my head,

658
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, how do I not right? Because it makes

659
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: me feel better right as I'm assuming. I mean, with

660
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Speaker 3: you having to train so many times in one day,

661
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Speaker 3: you know that you feel better at the end of

662
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Speaker 3: the day if you have kind of checked off all

663
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: the things on your this is going to make me

664
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Speaker 3: the best version of me.

665
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Speaker 2: To do list.

666
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: Also, you have to Sometimes people say, oh, that's selfish,

667
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: but I think for you to serve others, you need

668
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: to serve yourself and make sure you are the best

669
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: you can be, whether that's waking up to meditate, do yoga,

670
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: go for a run, eat better. But yeah, taking that

671
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: first step can be the most challenging. And I think

672
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: people think they need to like go out and go

673
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: for a ten mile run. It's like, no, go for

674
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Speaker 1: a mile run, go for a walk. Just start with

675
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: that and like work your way up. It doesn't happen overnight.

676
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: Like I did not become an Olympian overnight. This has

677
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: taken years in consistency, hard work, perseverance, a lot of help,

678
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: and so it's like, yeah, things don't just happen overnight,

679
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: and it does take say no to someone offering you

680
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: a shot or a good night staying out with friends.

681
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Speaker 4: It's like, Nope, I'm going to do one and I'm

682
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 4: going to go home. I'm going to get rest.

683
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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you can't go out, you can't enjoy

684
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: time with friends, but knowing when to set your limits

685
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, you're gonna miss out have.

686
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Speaker 4: Those opportunity costs. That's interesting. I've never heard it that way.

687
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Speaker 3: I know, I like always, I'm like, this was like

688
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: such a New York moment for me and this man

689
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: who has no idea that I have this profound story

690
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: about him explaining this to me.

691
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Speaker 2: Now, thank you, Sara, wherever you are in the world.

692
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Speaker 3: So for you now gearing up for Tokyo, what would

693
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Speaker 3: you say, perhaps has been something that is a big

694
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Speaker 3: opportunity cost for.

695
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Speaker 1: You, especially with COVID just limiting the amount of people

696
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm around really trying to watch just stay uninjured. So

697
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: that's going to mean me say no a lot more,

698
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: which is hard. There's a lot of opportunities that come

699
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: when you say, oh, I'm an Olympian and I'm going

700
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Speaker 1: to the Olympics. A lot of people are so excited,

701
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Speaker 1: which is amazing. There's so many opportunities, But at the

702
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: same time, I know I need to focus on my

703
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: training to make sure that I can go and perform

704
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: at my best and saying no and missing out on

705
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: some of those opportunities to get my story out, share

706
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: about my sport, share about the Army World Class Athlete Program,

707
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: and all the opportunities I've had With that, it is

708
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: going to have to kind of go down the wayside,

709
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: and a little bit too. Of my relationships, my friendships,

710
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: but I know that they will understand. And staying healthy,

711
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: making sure I do not get sick before I go,

712
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: staying injury free, that's going to be the main part.

713
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Speaker 2: I just came here from the track and field trials.

714
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: I know.

715
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Speaker 3: It's how someone qualifies to go to the Games. For

716
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Speaker 3: you in your sport, how do you qualify?

717
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Speaker 1: So there is a very long selection period for the

718
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Speaker 1: sport of modern pentathlon, typically the year before the Olympics.

719
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Speaker 1: There is a set amount of competitions that will be

720
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 1: put into a world ranking and they'll take your top

721
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: three scores from that world ranking and those athletes will

722
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: qualify for the Games. There is only thirty six men

723
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Speaker 1: and thirty six women total that go to the Olympics,

724
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Speaker 1: and up to two per country are allowed slots. There

725
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Speaker 1: is a second way to qualify, and that's off of

726
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: continental competitions. So in twenty nineteen they had a Pan

727
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: American Games, which this is always usually one year before

728
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: the Olympics, and at Pan American Games they have two

729
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: slots for North and Central America, two slots for South America,

730
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: and then a wild car, so five total slots for

731
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Speaker 1: all of North and South America. And so at Pan

732
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: American Games, I won the silver medal, which qualified my

733
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Speaker 1: spot for the Olympics. That spot technically was not confirmed

734
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: until like a few weeks ago, So even though I'm sitting,

735
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm qualified, but it's still you're still kind

736
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: of riding on that I could be bumped out if

737
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: someone in the world ranking were to pass me, two

738
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: US women were to pass me in world ranking. So

739
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: it's very complicated. But you basically have a year long

740
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: process that you have to stay solid for and compete

741
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: strong throughout that whole season versus one trials. So it's

742
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: kind of like we do have a longer duration. You

743
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: don't just have that one day you have to show up,

744
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: you have to have multiple days. So it's like, I

745
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: don't know what I'd rather have because that's a little

746
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: bit stressful in my head, having one race where you

747
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: have to qualify. We have a little bit longer. But

748
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: at the same time too, Pan American Games. I just

749
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: had a very strong day and being able to have

750
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Speaker 1: my family there and knowing I've had my spot qualified

751
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen was a huge relief. How many people

752
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: compete in that In the Pan American Games, Yeah, I'm

753
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: trying to there was.

754
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 4: Over fifty wow, fifty athletes.

755
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I want to say, I'd have to look at the

756
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: number of fifty women. So it was bigger than in

757
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: most years. Things have developed more in the South and

758
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: Central American countries, which is really great to see. I'd

759
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: love to see the sport grow. It's definitely a lot

760
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: bigger in Europe and overseas, but not so much in

761
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Speaker 1: like North and South America.

762
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Speaker 3: And I was talking to your coach yesterday, and it's interesting,

763
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: right because obviously so many different disciplines within one quote

764
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Speaker 3: unquote sport, So so many different sports in one sport,

765
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Speaker 3: which means that it attracts individuals who may have like

766
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: a little bit of a weakness in one area but

767
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: a strength in the others.

768
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Speaker 2: Per se would you say for you?

769
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Speaker 3: And I mean, I feel like by the time that

770
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Speaker 3: this comes out, it'll be safe and no one's going

771
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: to know this.

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Speaker 2: But do you you have like a weaker sport?

773
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Speaker 4: Yes, I don't want to go your cover.

774
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Speaker 2: I don't know your cover.

775
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: I think it is well known that fencing is definitely

776
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 1: my most challenging sport of pentathlon and the combined event,

777
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: the running and shooting is my strength. But I also

778
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: grew up around horses, which is one of my strengths

779
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: as well. But in pentathlon, we ride a random horse,

780
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: so you really don't know what you're gonna get that

781
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: day and how you're really gonna mesh with that animal.

782
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: You have to figure it out that day. So that's

783
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: always a little bit of a toss up knowing what

784
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna.

785
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: Get, right if you're out of the loop on how

786
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: horses work, because I'm obviously so in the loop, but

787
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: I learned about this yesterday. Every horse obviously is different,

788
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 3: so individuals who may own one or work with the

789
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: same horse all the time, you develop such a special

790
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 3: relationship with that animal. So then to be thrown on

791
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 3: a horse, you get twenty minutes with the horse before

792
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: you ride.

793
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Speaker 1: It, Yes, twenty minutes warm up, a couple warm up jumps,

794
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: and then you have to go in and do fifteen obstacles.

795
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Speaker 4: They can be set up to four feet high.

796
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: So it's pretty I mean, you're testing your trust in

797
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: that animal, and that's a quick time to really adapt

798
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: and adjust.

799
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Speaker 4: To a horse.

800
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: Wow.

801
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Speaker 3: Okay, so something I don't think that we've done just yet.

802
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: I know you talked us through all the different disciplines

803
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: of pentathlon, but just like you did now explaining how

804
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: that writing component would go, let's talk through kind of

805
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 3: the run of show of how a modern pentathlon would

806
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: play out.

807
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, so modern pentathlon, we will usually start with

808
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: the fencing. You'll have a round robin fencne so thirty

809
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: six athletes, thirty six women, and you will fence each

810
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: woman one touch, so you'll have thirty five touches one

811
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: minute per bout, and you basically have one winner victory

812
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: or defeat, and whoever has a victory, we'll get more points.

813
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: After that, they will put you into a ranking system

814
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: first through thirty six, and you will do a bonus

815
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: round for the fencing. So basically thirty six fences, thirty

816
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: five whoever wins stays up to fence thirty four and

817
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: each bout that you win you get plus one point,

818
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: and a point can make a difference. I mean Olympics

819
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: are definitely it gets really tight for those top three

820
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: athletes for the metal spots. And then after the fencing

821
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: is over, we have the swimming event two innimeters freestyle,

822
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Speaker 1: so basically the faster you swim, the more points you get.

823
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Speaker 4: After that, whoever is.

824
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Speaker 1: In the lead from the fencing and swimming will draw

825
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: a number and that's what horse they get, and then

826
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Speaker 1: they'll go down the list of who gets the horse,

827
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Speaker 1: and you'll have the fifteen course obstacle obstacles that you

828
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: have to complete, be under a certain optimum time and

829
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Speaker 1: not knocked down. If you knock down a rail, you

830
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: will deduct points. If you have a refusal or a

831
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Speaker 1: fall or any time penalties, you will lose points. And

832
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Speaker 1: so a perfect ride is three hundred points, and so

833
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: as you're going more and more points is better. And

834
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Speaker 1: when you get to the final event of the running

835
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: and shooting, whoever is in first place will basically start

836
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Speaker 1: at zero and then say I'm in second place, all

837
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 1: start if I am five points behind first. I will

838
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: start five seconds back and so on and so forth,

839
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: and my job is to catch up person in front

840
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: of me. And in the combined event, we will run

841
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: into our shooting station. We have to hit five targets,

842
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: run eight hundred meters and we do that four times,

843
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: so a total of twenty hits on the target and

844
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: two miles of running. Whoever finishes that last lap of

845
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: running first is the winner.

846
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Speaker 3: And we haven't mentioned this yet, although I'm sure I

847
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: will mention it in the intro to this episode. But

848
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: we're not shooting real guns here. We're shooting laser guns,

849
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 3: laser pistols.

850
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Speaker 4: Yes, we are shooting laser pistols.

851
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Speaker 1: And they had switched over to laser that was in

852
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: I think twenty twelve. They wanted our event to be

853
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: in a stadium full of people. It made it safer

854
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: and actually too, it's actually made it better for us

855
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: to travel. We don't have live ammunition with us. We

856
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: basically have a glorified laser pointer. But it is not

857
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: as easy as it looks. I know a lot of

858
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, you shoot a laser pistol, like

859
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: it's like video games.

860
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: It is not easy. I tried it. Yesterday. It's not

861
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: easy at all.

862
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: It is interesting to me though, thinking about you going

863
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: through security with all of the gear that you need

864
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: to travel with. I mean you must have had to

865
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: explain this like at least a handful of times. Oh, yes,

866
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: it's it's a pain. Sometimes you can. You go on

867
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: an airplane with fencing equipment.

868
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Speaker 1: We definitely have checked bags that we send everything through

869
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: because the ebays that we fence with are so long.

870
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: But all the gear you have, your pistols, your riding gear, running, swimming, fencing,

871
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: there's hardly ever a time like if I can make

872
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: fifty pounds, which is a good thing I'm military, I

873
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: get a little extra weight, but it's hard to make

874
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: that fifty pound mark. I feel like I overpacked for everything,

875
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: but it's a little hard not to With pentathlon.

876
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: I'm like trying to pack to go to like Colorado,

877
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: Oregon and California for a week, and I'm like, I

878
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: don't know how I'm gonna do it. Yeah, traveling the

879
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: world to like do your sport, and it's absolutely, absolutely

880
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: just so much stuff. Okay, So talk to me out

881
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: where you were at when you found out that you

882
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: were confirmed to go to Tokyo.

883
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 4: I think, well, I mean, PanAm.

884
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: When I found out that I was going to go

885
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: to Tokyo, my coach he's like, just in case you

886
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: guys wanted to see, He like emails us the letter

887
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: that confirmed we were invited to the Olympics, and I

888
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: remember calling and sending it to my parents and they were.

889
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, it's official.

890
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 4: We need to celebrate.

891
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: And it's like we've known that after World Championships, we

892
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: basically knew that my spot was solidified and I would

893
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 1: be going, But actually seeing it in person, seeing that letter,

894
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: you're just like, it's really happening. And then watching the trials,

895
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 1: seeing all the excitement of athletes being able to callify

896
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: for the Olympics. It's just been that build up that

897
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: I think I kind of needed emotionally, because you can

898
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: feel very isolated sometimes as an athlete and kind of

899
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: forget what you're aiming towards at times with that grind

900
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: day in and day out. So being able to see

901
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: that and just get get more excited, have those little

902
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: things along the way that I'm grateful for, and I'm

903
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: just so I'm so grateful that they're still going to

904
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: have the Olympics because that could have.

905
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 4: Been taken away from me completely.

906
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 3: And I think also as we spoke about just there

907
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: being both so many few penn athletes so to speak,

908
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: as well as not a ton of knowledge about the

909
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: sport and individuals needing that full explanation that we just

910
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 3: went through, that in itself. I mean track athletes, so

911
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 3: many track athletes, swimmers, gymnasts, like soccer players, like everything.

912
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: There's so many of them, right, But you are a

913
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 3: lesser known sport and you are one of a fewer

914
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: amount of athletes. So I can totally imagine that that's

915
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 3: a little isolating.

916
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: You're like, but I.

917
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: Matter, I'm here, I'm doing this, and for you in

918
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 3: traveling and representing your country, what does that mean to you?

919
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: Representing TIMYSA is incredible? But I also get to represent

920
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: the US Army too, and soldier athlete that means so

921
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: much more to me, and having more people behind me,

922
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: a bigger team. I just know how hard a lot

923
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: of military families, all those soldiers out there, how hard

924
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: they work, And I get this really unique opportunity and

925
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: I need to go and work hard and fight for

926
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: my nation. But on a different field of play, which

927
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: is a really unique experience and not many people. A

928
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: lot of people say they get to be an Olympian,

929
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: but not a soldier athlete Olympian, and that's a very

930
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: It adds to that uniqueness and just brings me more pride.

931
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't do it for the title.

932
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: I don't.

933
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't do it for anyone else. But I think

934
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: just knowing that you have that much more to fight for,

935
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: that one percent like behind you when you're when you're fighting,

936
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: and I know it's going to be hot in Tokyo,

937
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: so it's going to be hard. Knowing that I just

938
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: have that little extra mph behind me is really going

939
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: to help.

940
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: Oh. I have so many chills. This is so exciting.

941
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: What do you think about when you think about life

942
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: after Tokyo, Life after Tokyo.

943
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I've had this question a lot, and I

944
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: don't really know. To be honest, I am very grateful.

945
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: Like with the Army, I have so many opportunities career

946
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: wise with that, whether I want to continue in sport,

947
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: whether I want to go down another path, go to school,

948
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: there's things in the medical field. I love health and wellness.

949
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: I actually got certified to teach pilates and I've always

950
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: practiced it, and I love plates. I love health and

951
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: wellness and being able to help others kind of achieve

952
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: dreams or goals that they didn't really think that they

953
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: could accomplish and just live healthier lifestyles, because like we said,

954
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of that first step, and a lot of

955
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: times people don't know how to do that, and so

956
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: providing them with the information to do that. I would

957
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: love to be able to help people do that and

958
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: give back in that way. I'm not really sure what

959
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: that looks like yet, and I don't know if that's

960
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: going to be here with w CAP in the Army

961
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: as a civilian, I don't really know. I do have

962
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: a little bit of time, but I know right now

963
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: that my goal is to go to the Olympics and

964
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: perform to the best of my ability, hopefully bring home

965
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: a metal. If I don't, that's okay, But I'm going

966
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: to go out there and fight and then kind of

967
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: reassess and take some time for myself and much time

968
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: for my husband and my family too, that I know

969
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: that they've missed, they've missed kind of sometimes with me.

970
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 3: Right now, if someone was to come check out your

971
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 3: social media, I know you also have some YouTube content

972
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 3: that I've been checking out. They'll see a strong woman

973
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: training to go to Tokyo. When you look in the mirror,

974
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 3: what is it that you see looking back at you.

975
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: When I look in the mirror, I see a very

976
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: determined person, no matter what happens, how bad the day

977
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: starts out, especially pentathlon, there's five different events. No matter

978
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: how bad the day starts out, It's like I can

979
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: always turn it around. I can keep working hard, I

980
00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: can keep trying. And that perseverance in that determination has

981
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: really just over time progressed in an upward trend, but

982
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: there has been times that's gone up and down. But

983
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: I can't say that I'm an overly confident person. But

984
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: I just see a very determined and driven person, and

985
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: that has helped me achieve things that I never thought

986
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: I could.

987
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: Love that.

988
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: I also am now going back thinking into the sequencing

989
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 3: of events and understanding that you can have one event

990
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: that may.

991
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: Not go as well as you had hoped.

992
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: There has to be a lot of mental tenacity and

993
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: sometimes mental gymnastics. I am sure to get over that

994
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: hurdle of letting that thing go so that you can

995
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: move on to the next thing and just show up

996
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: as your full self. I'm sure through your work with

997
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: the sports psychologist that is something you've had to work

998
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 3: on astronomically.

999
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: Yes, it is, because we can definitely get in our

1000
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: heads and fencing when we're doing the round robin that

1001
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: can be two to three hours. You have a lot

1002
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: of fencing that you're doing, and if you start losing

1003
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: and aren't able to pull yourself out, you can have

1004
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: a really bad day. So being able to pull yourself

1005
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: up and come back not just in one sport, it

1006
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: can be anyone's day. I've seen women run up and

1007
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: I've ran up multiple places in the combined event to

1008
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: win a medal, and I've seen other very strong women

1009
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: come up from very far behind to be on the podium,

1010
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: and so I know, it's like it's never over until

1011
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: you cross that finish line. It's just like starting your day.

1012
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: Just because you started out the day and it started

1013
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: poorly doesn't mean that you can just say, Okay, check

1014
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: that off my list, Like let's try to refocus and

1015
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: get back on track. Just breathe and move on to

1016
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: the next thing I need to do, because every day

1017
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: is not going to be perfect, and I mean, I'm

1018
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: a perfectionist. I want everything to be perfect, and that's

1019
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: also too something I've had to work on is perfection

1020
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: can be very detrimental and it can make me, it

1021
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: can destroy you.

1022
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: I mean the difference between say, running and shooting, Like

1023
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: running and shooting are two things that you have so

1024
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: much more individual control over than fencing an opponent, Like,

1025
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: you don't have control over what that person's going to

1026
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: do to you.

1027
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: And they could go left and you could go right.

1028
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 3: And I don't know anything about property fencing terminology here,

1029
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: but they could go left and you go right, and

1030
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 3: that's not within your control. So I would imagine, as

1031
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 3: someone who is a self labeled perfectionist, Jesus like getting

1032
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 3: through that mental.

1033
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: Hurdle is enough.

1034
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that has partially been why fencing

1035
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: has been so challenging for me, is because I like

1036
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: to be in control, and as an athlete, that's helped

1037
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: me have success because I can control what I eat,

1038
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: how I train, my schedule. But yeah, I can't control

1039
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: that person in front of me. I in some instances,

1040
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: I also cannot control that horse. I have some control

1041
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: over it, but learning how to kind of let go

1042
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: of some of that control too, and COVID has Actually

1043
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: the pandemic has been very good because I have not

1044
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: had control, so being able to just let go and

1045
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: be like, I can't control that gyms are closed right now,

1046
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: I can't control that the Olympics have been possibly canceled

1047
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: or postponed. I have no idea, but I can control

1048
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: the way I focus my energy and what I'm going

1049
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: to do, what I'm going to focus on. In some

1050
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: days it's better than others, but for the most part,

1051
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: it's those challenges, and I think people have learned to

1052
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: grow in different ways through this pandemic. So as hard

1053
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: as it has been, I think it's challenged people to

1054
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: grow in different ways too.

1055
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 3: If you had to reflect one of the best pieces

1056
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 3: of advice that you have received in this training cycle,

1057
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: what would it be.

1058
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: Best piece of advice I would say leading up to

1059
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: the Olympics and just these past couple of years would

1060
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: be comparison is the thief of joy. If you've heard

1061
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 1: that quote before, especially not being around so many people

1062
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: were on social media all the time, scrolling through your phone.

1063
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I don't look like that. She's an athlete.

1064
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm an athlete. Like that is, that's like going to

1065
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: steal all of your joy, everything that you've worked hard for.

1066
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: You can totally destroy yourself just by looking at what

1067
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 1: someone else is accomplishing. And so being able to set

1068
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: goals for yourself and say and have to coach or

1069
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: having someone who's kind of your accountability coach to say, like,

1070
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: what are your your goals, what are your aspirations, whether

1071
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: that's in athletics or work or family, and being able

1072
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: to prioritize that to look at yourself and what you're

1073
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: doing to make sure that you're a better person, which

1074
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: is going to make also those people around you better

1075
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: because you're going to be able to serve them better

1076
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: by knowing that you're focused on your goals and not

1077
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: so much of what that outside influence is on other people.

1078
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1079
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's exactly the reason you're reflecting on comparison

1080
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: being the thief of joy. That's exactly the reason why

1081
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: I decided to stop touching my phone for the first

1082
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 3: thirty to forty minutes after I wake up.

1083
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 2: In the morning.

1084
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 3: Now my routine, I'm working on getting back to it

1085
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 3: every single day. I kind of deviated briefly, but I'll

1086
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: wake up and I'll journal. First thing, I'll make an espresso, like,

1087
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 3: I'll get myself organized. The first time I grab my

1088
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: phone in the morning is usually when I do this

1089
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: thing that I call the lace up, which is where

1090
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: I time my shoes on Instagram. Sounds so dumb when

1091
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: I say that out loud sometimes, but that shot in

1092
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: the morning is the first time that I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm here. But the good thing about that shot for

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Speaker 3: me is on the mornings where maybe I'm not ready

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Speaker 3: to look at myself in the mirror, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Yet maybe I'm not feeling my best.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I've had like a you know, emotional twenty four

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Speaker 3: hours for me looking myself in the eye first thing

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Speaker 3: in the morning and reminding myself that I have the

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Speaker 3: opportunity love that word to show up for me.

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Speaker 2: That's like more for me than it is for anybody else.

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Speaker 3: But if that moment we're talking about like a mutual

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Speaker 3: love for and hope to help others on their journey

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Speaker 3: of wellness and well being, if my experience and putting

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Speaker 3: my big girl pants on can help somebody else show

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Speaker 3: up and decide that they're also going to get out

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Speaker 3: there for themselves, that day and how special is that?

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Speaker 3: So again on this idea of I can't wake up

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Speaker 3: and compare myself to what anybody else is doing. Your

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00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: world completely changes when you release just let them do

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Speaker 3: their thing and you focus.

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Speaker 1: On your thing, and letting go can be hard, so hard,

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Speaker 1: but like, yeah, you never know you're lacing up could

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Speaker 1: be someone's motivation to be like I need to get up.

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Speaker 1: I need to lace up my shoes and go out

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Speaker 1: for a run. So I think that's really cool. Social

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Speaker 1: media in a way can be great to help motivate

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Speaker 1: and inspire others, but it can also be very detrimental.

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Speaker 1: So it's finding that, like I said that balance before,

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Speaker 1: which is hard because you want to influence and impact

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Speaker 1: others in a very positive way and so being able

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Speaker 1: to showcase that in the raw feelings of things, which

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Speaker 1: I'm it's hard to do at times.

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Speaker 4: But I think if you can be that way.

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Speaker 1: And like you said about journaling too, like that can

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Speaker 1: be a really good way to get get out how

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Speaker 1: you're feeling. And I love to journal and almost kind

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Speaker 1: of reflect on things that I'm doing well. And in

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Speaker 1: my journal, I have two lines every day and it says,

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Speaker 1: what are you grateful for so being able to have

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00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: that gratitude too. It's like, no matter what's happened in

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00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: the day, it's like, Okay, what was some two good

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00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: things that happened today and being grateful for that because

1134
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: you need to have gratitude. There is something every day

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00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: that is beautiful that you should be grateful for.

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Speaker 3: You and me both, sister. Okay, final two questions. First question,

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Speaker 3: when things may start to go awry or things feel

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Speaker 3: really tough and you're out there for that eight hundred

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Speaker 3: meter sprint or two hundred meter sprint in the pool,

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Speaker 3: do you have a mantra or something that you continuously

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00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 3: go back to to kind of refocus and get yourself

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Speaker 3: into a groove.

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Speaker 4: I would say.

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Speaker 1: It does change on a regular basis, kind of some

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00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: mantras that I do tell myself based on what workouts

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00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: him in. But I have a tattoo on my wrist

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00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: that says strength, and it's from the Bible verse Philippians

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00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: four thirteen. I can do all things through Christ. You

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00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: gives me strength. There's definitely different ways to say it,

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00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: but primarily just knowing that I've gotten this far and

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00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: it's like just telling myself, come on, Sammy, you can

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00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 4: You can do it.

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Speaker 1: Almost at self talk, you kind of sound a little silly,

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00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: like you're being your own coach, but you need to

1156
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: be in your ear saying like you've gone this far,

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00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: like you only have two hundred meters left, you only

1158
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: have fifty meters left, Like you can do it. You

1159
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: ran how many miles this past like last week, this

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00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: is nothing. Almost kind of playing like games in my

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00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 1: head to make it seem like it's not as hard

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00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: as it really is. And just remembering like that strength

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00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: that I have that strength from God, I have that

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00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: strength from everyone around me, so being able to just

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00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 1: tap into that and sometimes it's not there, that kick

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00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: may not always be there, but those little times when

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Speaker 1: I can have that self talk, it.

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Speaker 3: Just helps give you that little extra boost and to

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00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 3: have the grace with yourself in the moments where it

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00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 3: doesn't happen. And again, just this idea of there's no

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Speaker 3: such thing as being your hype man, your own hype

1172
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: man too much, especially when you're going out there and

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00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 3: you're giving it all you've got, whether you're showing up

1174
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 3: for a meeting in a conference room or tackling a

1175
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 3: mile around a track It's like you have to believe

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00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: in yourself first, because if you don't believe in yourself,

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Speaker 3: then nobody else is going.

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Speaker 4: To do it for you.

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Speaker 3: Right now, you have an opportunity to give yourself a

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Speaker 3: piece of advice reflecting back on not going to Rio,

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00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: technically hard times, devastating, overtraining, you have an opportunity right

1182
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 3: now to give yourself one piece of advice looking back

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Speaker 3: on that time.

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Speaker 2: What do you tell yourself.

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Speaker 1: Looking back on that time, I would tell myself, this

1186
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: is just one piece of your life. This is a

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00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: short moment in your life, and as devastating as it is,

1188
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: you will pick yourself up, and you will pick up

1189
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Speaker 1: the pieces. You will fight hard, you will come back,

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Speaker 1: have the faith believe in yourself. I think a lot

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00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: of times I didn't believe in myself and just knowing

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00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: like it is, it is.

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Speaker 4: Okay to be upset with what's happened.

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00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: To take that time to grieve and then get back

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00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: on track and figure out where life takes you from there.

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00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: Being upset is okay.

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Speaker 1: People think you just need to shove it down, and

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00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: I was upset, and you need to be upset with

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Speaker 1: yourself for a quote unquote failure, but that failure provided

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Speaker 1: me with an opportunity to do more, to join the military,

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Speaker 1: to join the US Army, to be a part of

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00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: the world class athlete program. And if I was on

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Speaker 1: that Olympic team and I did compete in Reo Olympics,

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00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I would have joined or I would

1205
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Speaker 1: have been on the same path.

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Speaker 4: That I am.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that was a long answer to your question.

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Speaker 3: It all happens for a reason. I'm so excited to

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Speaker 3: cheer you on in Tokyo. I'm so amped. I'm excited

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Speaker 3: to follow your journey. How do the hurdlers keep up

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Speaker 3: with you? How do they follow along with you? Give

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Speaker 3: me all the details.

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Speaker 1: Instagram is definitely where I'm the most active at Samantha

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Speaker 1: A USA, and then also Sammy Schultz is my YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: I'll hopefully be pushing out some more videos and getting

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Speaker 1: some content in Tokyo. And then my website, Samantha Kay

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Speaker 1: USA has Samantha kayusa dot com has all the info,

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Speaker 1: a ton of information about pentathlon in my journey. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just really excited. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: It was wonderful to show you my sport and just

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Speaker 1: be able to spend some time with you.

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Speaker 3: Oh loved it. I'm over at Emily Body and at

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Speaker 3: Hurdle Podcast. Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.