Speaker 1: Oh, listen after this and seeing myself every time we
Speaker 1: do this, I am definitely having a facelift. Okay, Alsa,
Speaker 1: got my headphones on, got my everything going, The microphone
Speaker 1: is working, I can see everybody. Who are we going
Speaker 1: to talk about today? Today we're gonna have a special
Speaker 1: day Merrow posters. Daughter Ava and her mother Sue are
Speaker 1: going to have a conversation. Is that our merrow? It's
Speaker 1: our narrow poster. Who's the creator of Call your Grandmother? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to this. It should be fabulous.
Speaker 1: They're two fabulous ladies. A little girl, a teenager too fast.
Speaker 1: A little girl, You'll be a real pain to the ass.
Speaker 1: You'll go to school and act so cool and do
Speaker 1: all the teenage stuff. Little girl, you're not a little
Speaker 1: girl long a. This is too I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say her age, but she is fun. She's funky, very fresh.
Speaker 1: With Grammy, nothing can be described as boring. You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'd say things and do things just for the
Speaker 1: outrageousness of the pido, so we could get a lot
Speaker 1: out of it. Grammy has a photographic memory. If you
Speaker 1: give her the name of a song, she can sing
Speaker 1: a song that goes with that word should wed Grammy, alright,
Speaker 1: just don't embarrass me after that interruption. My best friend's
Speaker 1: name is Lily, Lily, Lily of the Valley, Lily Lily,
Speaker 1: Let's red BALLI zupp keep your eyes on the road, etcetera.
Speaker 1: I've been wearing the same perfume for forty years and
Speaker 1: she always loved it. So before she went to camp,
Speaker 1: I took my perfume dad to a house and I
Speaker 1: sprated all over hot pillows that she was taking to camp.
Speaker 1: So when she got to camp, she would spell me.
Speaker 1: She is really funny. Everything she says is like, uh,
Speaker 1: there's always a joke because she's very musical. She's been
Speaker 1: a very very important part of my life. She's the
Speaker 1: best and I love her. Nobody has given me the
Speaker 1: joy and by life that Ava has given me. Growing up.
Speaker 1: I guess they had a really small bladder. So we
Speaker 1: would wander into bathrooms and we made it like a game.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh does this I was really small,
Speaker 1: so it's the hook low enough that I could reach it.
Speaker 1: It never was are there flowers? Is it nice lighting?
Speaker 1: And then it just became a thing and we're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to write a book. On the best bathrooms
Speaker 1: in New York, the best bath and the worst, and
Speaker 1: we took notes and we rated them from one to ted. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Grammy famously likes to kidnap me, so she would just
Speaker 1: capture me after school and we would like do debaucherous things.
Speaker 1: I would take Gavid during the day. We rode up
Speaker 1: to yachters and we this bathroom looked like it was
Speaker 1: over the bridge. Rebepperave it felt like you were on
Speaker 1: a ship in the middle of the river. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it was gorgeous and the view was incredible. Grammy
Speaker 1: has kind of always been with me. We would do
Speaker 1: like cooking classes together. She would take me to dance lessons,
Speaker 1: and we've always been extremely close. She taught me to
Speaker 1: play pick up six and jacks to make sure I
Speaker 1: went to camp with all of the necessary skills. We
Speaker 1: did all different things. We went to Butterfly World. We
Speaker 1: went to play a miniature golf. Yeah. But now in
Speaker 1: the pandemic, it's just helping the pandemic. I haven't sea. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Have I seen you once? I mean I've seen you
Speaker 1: since March, right. Yeah. Well, she came to the house
Speaker 1: twice this summer and she took a few things. She
Speaker 1: wears some of my old Yeah, her old clothes. He
Speaker 1: has like these like old scars that will tie into talk.
Speaker 1: And I used to always wear a belt and a
Speaker 1: shirt with the collar up. I look like Rizzo from Greece. Terrific.
Speaker 1: And I love the relationship between the grandmother and that
Speaker 1: thing with the rating of the bathrooms. That's the funniest
Speaker 1: thing I ever heard. Every time she opens him out,
Speaker 1: I think to myself, as soon as this thing is over,
Speaker 1: I'm having her here for lunch. I mean, she is
Speaker 1: just like, invite me, Allen, you're a good cook. Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm reading these part titles, and part one says Ellie
Speaker 1: Grammy Graham. I wonder what that is, Grammy. Her use
Speaker 1: of social media could possibly be characterized as her miss
Speaker 1: use of social media now that she's taken to Instagram
Speaker 1: and Facebook. Sometimes she accidentally live streams I'm like fun
Speaker 1: over a dress rewa. So the first time that happened,
Speaker 1: I get a text from my best friend Sam. She
Speaker 1: was like, get on Facebook right now, Grammy's live streaming.
Speaker 1: So we're all on Facebook. All of my friends and
Speaker 1: my cousins were all texting. We're like, who's gonna tell her,
Speaker 1: I'm just hearing a baptist though. Yeah, you kept like
Speaker 1: tapping the button. It was like click click click. You
Speaker 1: were just sitting there and then you put like a
Speaker 1: filter on yourself. I was crying. I don't have any
Speaker 1: recollection that live. Same incident became the inspiration for Eli
Speaker 1: Grammy Graham, an Instagram account my cousins and I made
Speaker 1: for a Grandma. It's all about the face, that's the trouble.
Speaker 1: It's all about the base that's the trouble. It's at
Speaker 1: at that the base that's the trouble. But told me,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was basically about my grandma, like all
Speaker 1: the ridiculous stuff she does and all of the accidental
Speaker 1: selfie she takes, and when she sings rap songs in
Speaker 1: the car to like melodies and niche is so confusing
Speaker 1: and it was really never meant to be anything past.
Speaker 1: Like my family and my friends, it's kind of all
Speaker 1: those things that's like so quintessentially Grammy to everyone that
Speaker 1: just it makes you laugh or at least makes you
Speaker 1: smile a little bit. Even before we made her this account,
Speaker 1: all my friends knew Grammy, Like none of my friends
Speaker 1: call her Sue. Or Susan. It's all Grammy. It's like
Speaker 1: a nickname rather than being like my name for my grandma.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, hey, Grammy is Oh Grammy's gonna pick
Speaker 1: you up. It's not like, oh, is your Grammy gonna
Speaker 1: pick you up? She never knew I had a real name,
Speaker 1: but until a friend the Beryl's, asked her, do you
Speaker 1: know what Grammy's real name is? She said, Grabby. She
Speaker 1: had one friend that really thought I was a great mother.
Speaker 1: After my fourth grandchild was born, my husband, for her anniversary,
Speaker 1: got be a tennis bracelet when he had a little
Speaker 1: gold baby shoes. Attached to the bracelet at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the shoe said each kid's day with the date
Speaker 1: of birth. And Samantha looked at the bracelet. She said
Speaker 1: to me, where's my name? And Avis said to it,
Speaker 1: you're not one of Grammy's children, no child's You're not
Speaker 1: one of Grammy's childs. That thing is so funny because
Speaker 1: when I'm answering an email with something, I'm not good.
Speaker 1: I don't hit the right keys, and my kids keep saying,
Speaker 1: what are the stupid things are you sending out? You know,
Speaker 1: we don't know what we're doing. So whatever happens happens,
Speaker 1: and it's funny. It was adorable, that's so cute. I
Speaker 1: think that when a child has a relationship like that
Speaker 1: with a grandmother, it's like a gift. It really, absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's a gift. And I tried. I tried to create
Speaker 1: that kind of a relationship. Of course, my girls are
Speaker 1: much much younger, so it's better, you know what, because
Speaker 1: I feel now not that we're grandmother and grandshung with
Speaker 1: buddies with pounds. We love to be together. They get
Speaker 1: a kick out of me the stupid things I do.
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's an expression that we have in
Speaker 1: our family. It's like this no no, that usually is
Speaker 1: involving anything that has to do with electronics, although I
Speaker 1: tried very hard. Next up, we have part two, the
Speaker 1: last olive, and the only thing that comes to my
Speaker 1: mind is a marketining. How would you compare yourself to
Speaker 1: your grandmother? What would you say is the biggest difference
Speaker 1: between the two of you? She was cold as ice. Oh.
Speaker 1: We used to have dinner every night together, so you know,
Speaker 1: my mother always putting the olives, pickles, celery, carrots on
Speaker 1: the table, and there was one of olive left when
Speaker 1: I went to take it, she took it. My grandmother,
Speaker 1: if there is one thing left on the table at
Speaker 1: a restaurant, she always tells me to eat it. She's like,
Speaker 1: you go for it. I'm not going to take the
Speaker 1: last one. I never forgot that m after going through
Speaker 1: the experience, have your grandmother taking the last olive? What
Speaker 1: do you think is the most important thing to convey
Speaker 1: to your own grandchildren? Just love them. I really never
Speaker 1: wanted to every time I came to the house, boy
Speaker 1: you something, and give you something, because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be known for that. And I know plenty of
Speaker 1: my friends that with grandmothers, they every time they came
Speaker 1: to the house, you think that the child was interested
Speaker 1: in just what did you bring me? What did you
Speaker 1: bring me? So I made sure I didn't do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I certainly didn't suffer from lack of gifts,
Speaker 1: but I didn't make it an odd gooing. Uh an expectation? Right? Okay,
Speaker 1: say yea. Not only do you do that, you finish
Speaker 1: my sentences. You know, I have to say something about
Speaker 1: the last alive. They used to say, if a single
Speaker 1: girl each the last thing, she's gonna be an old maid?
Speaker 1: Did you ever hear that? But that's never hurt. You
Speaker 1: never heard that? Oh big, you know, I tell you
Speaker 1: the decade between our soul and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that got lost anyway. But the relationship is so cute.
Speaker 1: It's really adorable, and it really is. And you hope
Speaker 1: for a relationship like that with granddaughters and she and
Speaker 1: she's right about not bring any gift every time. Don't
Speaker 1: you know a lot of grandmothers that say, I'm going
Speaker 1: to the grandchildren, I have to get something for No,
Speaker 1: I do I know? Women. I have to tell you
Speaker 1: there's nothing I could buy my grandchildren that I would
Speaker 1: know that they want number one or that they don't have,
Speaker 1: which is unfortunate me. Listen, I have a granddaughter who's
Speaker 1: eleven who wants a broken leg. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: buy that. No, no, you have to get on a
Speaker 1: waiting list. Now, listen, don't go anywhere. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: a quick commercial and I know you're gonna come right
Speaker 1: back because we'll be looking for you. And there's nothing
Speaker 1: like Jewish guilt. Next up is part three, Going her
Speaker 1: Own Way? So how did you meet Poppy? A friend
Speaker 1: of mine? When we graduated high school, went first summer
Speaker 1: job at this company answering phones, putting in orders and
Speaker 1: modeling the swimsuits. And she liked it so much, and
Speaker 1: she thought her bosses were so nice that she never
Speaker 1: went to college. So I called them and my husband's partner,
Speaker 1: he was married, so he's the one that did the
Speaker 1: high you ring And I had met my husband yet
Speaker 1: you know, I would be on the spot to come
Speaker 1: in the following day his part Yeah, she had a
Speaker 1: rocking bod. And at that center clock, this dude struts
Speaker 1: in and he starts singing A foggy day in London Town.
Speaker 1: I said to myself, who is this? And there he was.
Speaker 1: Whenever I get to say, like, oh my grandma, Yeah
Speaker 1: she was a bathing suit model. For like a little
Speaker 1: bit of time, we're like, she's a bathing suit model,
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, model bathing suits my grandpa made
Speaker 1: on then. I mean, who knew he'd be my future
Speaker 1: huts But I used to stay there because I had
Speaker 1: a crush on him, and I would take a later
Speaker 1: training back to Lord Beach on Friday afternoon so I
Speaker 1: could stay another twenty minutes to the office with him.
Speaker 1: One night, I stayed later to model some suits for them,
Speaker 1: and then he took me for dinner. On the way out,
Speaker 1: I broke my heel of my shoe and he gave me,
Speaker 1: I think thirty dollars, so he said, his money, and
Speaker 1: go buy a pair of shoes because she's coming to
Speaker 1: work tomorrow. You need a pair of shoes. I had
Speaker 1: to think not to vomit. I was so nervous. He
Speaker 1: was a great combination of niceness and thoughtfulness and its sexy.
Speaker 1: It was a great combination. You know, it's like salt
Speaker 1: but pepper. You know, it worked very well together. I
Speaker 1: felt that it was something real, but I didn't know
Speaker 1: what real really was. I was trying to fight it.
Speaker 1: They was thirteen a half years older than I was
Speaker 1: at nineteen, a man of thirty two and a half.
Speaker 1: I made my friends thought I was going out with
Speaker 1: my father. Yeah, she was nineteen, I mean to be exact,
Speaker 1: I was eighteen really when I met him, and he
Speaker 1: was in the garb and Center, and that it wasn't
Speaker 1: a distinguished career like being a doctor a lawyer. You know,
Speaker 1: that's how people thought. You know. I was crazy about him,
Speaker 1: and his time went by, I was even more so,
Speaker 1: but I felt that there was no future there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't marry him. Makes that he's not marriage material
Speaker 1: for me. So what changed your mind then about Poppy
Speaker 1: being marriage material? I was going with him over two years,
Speaker 1: and I saw that I didn't like anybody else. Finally,
Speaker 1: my mother said to me that summer looks susan either ship.
Speaker 1: We'll get up the pot. That's it. You can't keep
Speaker 1: going like this. You know, there wasn't the pill they got.
Speaker 1: My mother was scared at death. I would be coome pregnant.
Speaker 1: You know, you got married to January before your college graduation,
Speaker 1: and didn't your father make you get your maiden name
Speaker 1: on your diploma right because he thought the marriagement at last.
Speaker 1: So you never know, you know, And we had a
Speaker 1: very long, loving marriage, so you never can tell. Oh,
Speaker 1: he found like a really nice guy. And look how
Speaker 1: generous he was. He gave him money for para shoes
Speaker 1: in those years of para shues for thirty dollars had
Speaker 1: to be Jimmy Choo, something really of I wasn't jump
Speaker 1: from a a s BEC. I don't know a few
Speaker 1: people remember that. God, I remember a s Bec. It
Speaker 1: was a shoe store chain and it was modern, comfortable shoes,
Speaker 1: but at thirty dollars, my god, you would have brought
Speaker 1: three pair and they expect So he was a generous guy.
Speaker 1: I say, these two Ava and Grahammy I'm enjoying this relationship.
Speaker 1: And the grandmother is a funny lady. She's a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. She's a oh, I I haven't expression who
Speaker 1: you know what? Who did? She's a yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know. If you need a few young girls know what?
Speaker 1: Who did? It's like I still say that read it
Speaker 1: really yeah, okay, okay, Rida Part four us coming up.
Speaker 1: I see that it says making your own money. This
Speaker 1: is something all of them have to learn how to do.
Speaker 1: When I got married, I still was in college and
Speaker 1: I was a speech in audiology major, and I really
Speaker 1: liked it that they gave us patience to take on
Speaker 1: the outside. We visited certain people at hospitals. Do ever
Speaker 1: see the movie Maudy with Ernest Borgnard. Well, his mother
Speaker 1: had a stroke and she was in Safe Vincent's hospital
Speaker 1: in the city, and she was one of my patients
Speaker 1: that I had to go see. What's so we and
Speaker 1: I was offered a job at Rusk Institute and My
Speaker 1: husband did not want me to take the job because
Speaker 1: he was afraid I'd fall in love with a doctor.
Speaker 1: And he kept saying that to me, and and it
Speaker 1: was close to where we lived, and I really I
Speaker 1: studied hard and I really wanted to work at it.
Speaker 1: I said, I fell in love with you. Why would
Speaker 1: I fall in love with the doctor. He says, well,
Speaker 1: you've got to have a baby, sued, And that's how
Speaker 1: we thought. So I didn't say I'd have a baby
Speaker 1: worked too, you know. So that was the end of
Speaker 1: my profession. I feel like it's definitely worth noting that
Speaker 1: all of the women in our family value education very highly.
Speaker 1: I'm the fourth generation to be going to college woman,
Speaker 1: and so I mean it's a pretty big deal. Like
Speaker 1: it's more about having the passion for learning. Grammy, you'll
Speaker 1: call me even at the beginning of every semester. What
Speaker 1: books are you reading in your classes? Like, I'm an
Speaker 1: English major, so it's all this stuff. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of feminist literature that I've been reading recently. It wanted
Speaker 1: us something I really, uh, black the other side of
Speaker 1: the fence with this by day. What do you mean
Speaker 1: you're on the other side of the fence were already.
Speaker 1: So what does that mean? I don't know. I mean
Speaker 1: I believe in equal pay. Uh. My nephew graduated Harvard
Speaker 1: Law School about Ted's years ago, and more than half
Speaker 1: of those law students were wipid. Right really made me
Speaker 1: feel good. It really wore my heart. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that Grammy as a woman, I think she's definitely more
Speaker 1: progressive than others in terms of like feminism. I don't
Speaker 1: think she would call herself necessarily a feminist, but I
Speaker 1: think that Grammy has always been someone to champion women
Speaker 1: doing what they want, not relying on a husband or
Speaker 1: a boyfriend to fulfill all of your needs. And I
Speaker 1: mean it was very deeply ingrained in my mom that
Speaker 1: you work and you make your own money. And now
Speaker 1: I'm making a little bit of my own money, and
Speaker 1: it feels really good. Having money of your own gives
Speaker 1: you a sense of independence. You know. That reminds me
Speaker 1: of a story when I graduated from college and I
Speaker 1: got my first job teaching. My mother said to me,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to pay rent now. And I was horrified,
Speaker 1: I'm going to live at home with you and Daddy
Speaker 1: and I have to pay rent. My mother said, it's
Speaker 1: only fair you have to pay rent. And about a
Speaker 1: week before I got married, my mother came to me
Speaker 1: with an envelope and she said, this is yours, and
Speaker 1: I opened it up and there was a tremendous check
Speaker 1: in there. Then all the rent you pay, she says,
Speaker 1: I'm your mother, I know you, and I know where
Speaker 1: that money would have god, And we had a very
Speaker 1: nice little nest egg from that money for one one
Speaker 1: to do three three? What do I think? I'm believe
Speaker 1: we're gonna say time to go commercial, commercial and we'll
Speaker 1: be right back. We can never sink I talked too fast. No,
Speaker 1: you were behind me? Read are you still there? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Part five is coming up. Grammy's Lessons something everyone should
Speaker 1: adhere to. Grammy. What's the difference between being a mother
Speaker 1: and a grandmother? For you? I don't have to worry
Speaker 1: every night. Did you do your homework? What's your homework?
Speaker 1: Where is your homework? What's this? To pick up your clothes?
Speaker 1: Put back your clothes? Did you go to the bathroom today?
Speaker 1: I was always a big maxature. My kids went to
Speaker 1: the bathroom with that. You still do do that with me,
Speaker 1: By the way, Just to make that clear, that's not
Speaker 1: where the mother grandmother line is. It's not really worrying
Speaker 1: day by day. It's just it's like eating ice cream
Speaker 1: every day without having to eat the spinach. It's pure joy.
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, she was always with me,
Speaker 1: like it was always she would pick me up from school,
Speaker 1: or she would take me somewhere and we would go
Speaker 1: to chuck e cheeses together or eat like ice cream
Speaker 1: sundays in bed. Eventually I was like, oh, this isn't normal.
Speaker 1: What was like? Oh yeah, like I saw Grammy today,
Speaker 1: like she brought me to a cooking class or something,
Speaker 1: And people like, oh yeah, Like I see my grandparents
Speaker 1: like once a year or like once every couple of months.
Speaker 1: And I still don't know many kids whose grandparents are
Speaker 1: in there every day live. You know. I call her
Speaker 1: most of the time, but she does call me occasionally,
Speaker 1: And when I get those phone calls, it's like a
Speaker 1: girl waiting for a boyfriend that she's been dying for
Speaker 1: him to call her, slacked by hot skips beats when
Speaker 1: she calls me. By the way, I passed a chuck
Speaker 1: e cheese today. You did is a big chucky cheese.
Speaker 1: I swear to God, we never ate there. I just
Speaker 1: want to make that very clear that we never ate
Speaker 1: at check e Cheeses. We just played the games. So
Speaker 1: we would go when I was little, and we would
Speaker 1: rack up tickets and we would just play like hours
Speaker 1: of ski ball and like hours of games in order
Speaker 1: to rack up as many points as we could. And
Speaker 1: we used to walk past the machines at kids left
Speaker 1: and the tickets would be hanging out. I got to
Speaker 1: take them. We've got a couple of hundred tickets every day,
Speaker 1: and so then we would collect them and how many
Speaker 1: tickets did we end up getting or something like that. Yeah, grammy,
Speaker 1: do you still have the tickets? Yes, I do when
Speaker 1: I diecause they're in the desk of the left hip drawer.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, not dad, I'll buy a chuck
Speaker 1: e cheese and name it Sue's Sue's plays. That's the
Speaker 1: cutest thing. I love that relationship. And as lucky and
Speaker 1: the grandmother was, the grand daughter is twice as lucky
Speaker 1: to have as a grandmother. I have to say. I
Speaker 1: once said to my husband, I envy my grandchildren the
Speaker 1: relationship that we have with them, because I never had
Speaker 1: that with a grandparents. He he had, he had two
Speaker 1: very doting grandmothers. His grandmother came to stay with us
Speaker 1: for a week because she wanted to teach me how
Speaker 1: to cook. They were terrible cooks in that family. And
Speaker 1: she said to me, My murther always told me, before
Speaker 1: the husband comes home, vosh your face, put on a
Speaker 1: clean vest, and glean him at the dore me that kiss.
Speaker 1: I only greeted him at the door with a kiss,
Speaker 1: but I never you know, watch me, okay, were to
Speaker 1: get ready. This is a part six learning to slow
Speaker 1: down and smell the roses because you're mad here forem
Speaker 1: a sweetheart. Do you think that the women in my
Speaker 1: generation are missing out on anything? I don't think they
Speaker 1: have time to step back and smell the flowers like
Speaker 1: we did. I think life is much more difficult today.
Speaker 1: The women today wanted all of the law that have
Speaker 1: to have more than what we had because they need to.
Speaker 1: It comes to the family, and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: stress out there, really is. Yeah, I mean I agree
Speaker 1: with that. I think that the grammy never she always
Speaker 1: said that, like working seemed like such a fun kind
Speaker 1: of thing to do, and I think now that I'm working,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to step back at least a little bit
Speaker 1: more and realize that, like everything isn't moving so quickly,
Speaker 1: Like I'm twenty two now, and it's like, how am
Speaker 1: I twenty two? And so I'm trying to just like
Speaker 1: slow down a little bit and smell the roses for
Speaker 1: like at least a second, you know. I think, though,
Speaker 1: it's some way that raising my children and being there
Speaker 1: and participating in their activities was like my career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she got to do it double with me,
Speaker 1: but only the fun parts. Well, I fired you very smart,
Speaker 1: and I think you have very good common sense, and
Speaker 1: I think you're a fabulous person thinks. So I could
Speaker 1: ask you about style, and I could ask you about
Speaker 1: I really don't talk about Kaska Dustyevsky. We could. We have,
Speaker 1: you know, an odgoing relationship. But we talked about a
Speaker 1: lot of things, and I just I just enjoy you
Speaker 1: aver fabulous, beyond fabulous. It's grammy. I know we're on
Speaker 1: the same page. He said. He loves all that we do.
Speaker 1: I have five grandchildren. I love five grandchildren. But there's
Speaker 1: always one that you have a little special relationship with.
Speaker 1: It's a friend, it's it's a loved one. It's not
Speaker 1: my mother's mother or my father's mother. It's my grandmother,
Speaker 1: my friend, my buddy, my confidant. Call Your Grandmother is
Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio and SUPERB Entertainment. The
Speaker 1: hosts of the show are me Rida Kay and me
Speaker 1: Alan Bernstein. Grotsky. Created by Meryl Poster, produced and directed
Speaker 1: by Anasta, with producer Abu Zafar, An associate producer Emily Marinoff,
Speaker 1: managing producer Lizzy Hoffman, and executive producers are Meryl Poster,
Speaker 1: Nikki e Tor and Mandes and Mangeshti Okay, let me
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