WEBVTT - Curl, You Know It's True? (with Langston Kerman and David Gborie)

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<v Speaker 1>Chips and yours Kuala Bears are racist.

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<v Speaker 2>The host layer host the money stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of of curly haired bitches. Oh yeah, David Borie,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Langston Germy. It was the fears we are we

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<v Speaker 1>We should start by saying that we'd be this episode

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<v Speaker 1>we've dedicated to a topic that has been a huge

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one of our biggest responses from our audience, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as them being both like determined and outraged at

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<v Speaker 1>at what we said. Is that fair to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't think that this was going to strike

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<v Speaker 3>such a chord with the little the community to be there.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think this was like a big deal. But

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<v Speaker 3>people felt strong a lot of ways about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people had very big feelings about it, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>rightfully so. Maybe you and I were a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>ignorant on this subject. But we talked a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago about the s Curls and the missing models for

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<v Speaker 1>the s curl boxes, why we never see these men

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<v Speaker 1>from the s curl Boxes out in the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we got tons and tons of emails and

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<v Speaker 1>dms and weird carrier pigeon messages from you, all claiming

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<v Speaker 1>that you knew personally the individuals from the s curl boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>or you had relationships and evidence that these people were

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<v Speaker 1>not actually artificial intelligence but were real human beings with

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<v Speaker 1>real sque.

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<v Speaker 3>Curls, which I mean hashtag bring back our boys. You

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<v Speaker 3>guys did it?

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<v Speaker 1>You found us, You found you found our boys.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say, of all the of all the contact

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<v Speaker 3>we got no direct did you notice that nobody was

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<v Speaker 3>like I was on the s curl box. I live

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<v Speaker 3>in bedstide, I raised pigeons on the roof, like nobody

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<v Speaker 3>needs that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's me Norman from Jacksonville and I I am the

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<v Speaker 1>brother on the box.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was it was a lot of like. It

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<v Speaker 3>was all like, oh, I know that she DJ in

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<v Speaker 3>a Virginia on radio and Roanoke.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know her? Or you being told that's who

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<v Speaker 1>she is and that invalidates it somehow. But that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We understand that you feel very passionate, So we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to make you feel small simply because you you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're lying about the Carol people.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we still love you. Everybody knows somebody who knows

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<v Speaker 3>somebody knows somebody, and I don't regret you for reaching out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, we're grateful for you reaching out, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you are lying, and we respect that sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 1>need a reason and to reach out.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you just want to he heard you want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to somebody. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to chat. We're down to chat with you.

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<v Speaker 3>We like to chat.

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<v Speaker 1>We have. Olivia was very kind to sort of consolidate

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of emails that we got in I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear that you and I both got a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of direct messages that went unanswered that we won't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, couldn't even go back.

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<v Speaker 1>Laziness and inability to navigate our dms and in boxes.

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<v Speaker 3>Also we you know, I don't have to answer that.

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<v Speaker 3>You should be blessed if I answered you, because it

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<v Speaker 3>stresses me out. I don't like answering you guys, because

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<v Speaker 3>then now you have connection to me, and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like texting with the stranger.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not my unwillingness to answer you once. It's

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<v Speaker 1>my unwillingness to answer you every time that you contact me.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have a fair amount of people who and

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<v Speaker 1>I think what I'm speaking for both of us, who

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<v Speaker 1>will send us a DM sometimes on a daily multiple

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<v Speaker 1>times today I get from some people, just random ass

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<v Speaker 1>videos that I don't give a fuck about and did

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<v Speaker 1>not want, have nothing to do with our podcast or

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<v Speaker 1>the subject matter at hand. It's a shit you like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You've added me to the list of people to see

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't care for that one bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and some people are good at it. Most people aren't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't do that with my own brother. He sends

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<v Speaker 3>me shit. I just said it spent a smiley face

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<v Speaker 3>because we're blood. I'm not going to do that. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to do that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we came out the same vagina. I'll show them

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<v Speaker 1>a little respect. But otherwise when we were see section babies,

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<v Speaker 1>was watching mouth Oh sorry, well listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you get a chance to come out of

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<v Speaker 1>one some day, because it really is. It's life changing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say, really, were you? Oh you were natural birth?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think you're better than me?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm natural birth for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>You seem like a nigga. You seem like you could

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<v Speaker 3>have been born at home. Is that were that? Were?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, but that's one of the meanest

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<v Speaker 1>things you've ever said to me. I have no clue.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even begin to piece together why it's so vile.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you just you just said a vile, vile

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<v Speaker 1>thing to me.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because I didn't mean it as a bad I

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<v Speaker 3>understand it came out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way that comes out as a that's a compliment.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way you are like, man, he's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was birthed at home. No, you meant

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt me, and you did.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's put it on record. I'm gonna think about it

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<v Speaker 1>all night. I may never land on why it stings

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<v Speaker 1>so bad. But you cut me deep, bitch, you cut

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<v Speaker 1>me real deep.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's because I'm still reeling from the C

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<v Speaker 3>section thing. I was like, I'm sorry, No, because wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>your mama doula though?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, my mom has no expertise and

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<v Speaker 1>the child bearing world other than she's had four kids,

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<v Speaker 1>so she she knows it, you know, as a press.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I wouldn't want my mom in the room

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<v Speaker 1>if I were in any way seeing my children born.

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<v Speaker 1>She ain't gonna help.

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<v Speaker 3>Does do moms get to get in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>I think cool moms probably due I think a nice,

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<v Speaker 1>cool mom could probably like advocate enough to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the room, But my mom, I ain't gonna help.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I would want my mom in the

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<v Speaker 3>room either.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, that that you got to be a very

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<v Speaker 1>specific lady to earn being in the room in that

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<v Speaker 1>extremely stressful environment.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, if my mom was in the room and I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't in the room, I feel like she would get

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<v Speaker 3>skinned to skin before I did. And then now I

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<v Speaker 3>got to raise this baby who loves his grandma more

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<v Speaker 3>than his father.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, now you got two wives, and what you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do about that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's nothing as African as I am. There's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing that sounds worse. Probably that cut me now or

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<v Speaker 3>even because that sucked, sucked. I understand now. I know

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<v Speaker 3>how you felt because that sid didn't you did? I said,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not even. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the Ziero Leone accent is. I

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<v Speaker 1>think every average, every African accent in America is just

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<v Speaker 1>us doing Nigerian disrespectfully. I think it is more or

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<v Speaker 1>less the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's be honest. It's it's strange because for a content

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<v Speaker 3>with so many vast dialects, Yorks are pretty similar.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what the problem is is that is that

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<v Speaker 1>across the board, despite to your point, this this vast

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like uh fucking cultural, just diverse place right

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<v Speaker 1>where everybody they can look different, sound different, all of

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<v Speaker 1>these things. What Africans I think share the most is

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<v Speaker 1>how little they respect Americans. And so I think what

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes that. No, I don't think it's only Africans,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think you guys take a weird pride in

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<v Speaker 1>it in a way that doesn't necessarily show in other countries.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you guys are like we is very proud to

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<v Speaker 1>especially with Black Americans. You're like, I'm not that, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>better than that, and you know it and I know it,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's why you just do the same

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<v Speaker 1>accent because you're like, I don't know what You're just

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make the noise like you make the noise

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<v Speaker 1>that noise we don't respect.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to say about that. Uh, I

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<v Speaker 3>will say, it's not wrong, it's not race relationships are complicated,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? Hearing you speak about Africans

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<v Speaker 3>as the black Americans, you almost sound like a dude

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<v Speaker 3>from DC more than Chicago. Because them DC dudes. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like that's where the most African Black people tension is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can see that. I think anywhere on the

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<v Speaker 1>East Coast there's like, to your point of skin to

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<v Speaker 1>skin contact that that hasn't gone exactly the way it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do with the Africans and the African Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think, and also the Africans. It's just you

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<v Speaker 3>know what bothers me is an African, We're so big,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just like everybody, everybody got hung up on

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<v Speaker 3>those click niggas, Like they set us back so far. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like if all of America, we took all of

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<v Speaker 3>America talked, and you only listen to how people in

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<v Speaker 3>Boston talk, and then they put that for all of us,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just Southeast becomes the only standard.

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<v Speaker 3>For becomes the blanket for the whole place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, it's it's rough. I will say that the

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<v Speaker 1>second that black people heard that the clicking, we were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we about to eat y'all a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the clicking. The clicking set us back a long time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Olivia's right. If you are a native click speaker or

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<v Speaker 3>if you have ties to a click speaker, much like

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<v Speaker 3>the sque coral debate cendis in centace in some click info.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't don't click out the email. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>write it in English because we ain't gonna know where

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<v Speaker 1>the dot dot whistle dot dot. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that is, so you gotta say you gotta write it

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<v Speaker 1>in English.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, this might be our most racist episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's it's without a shadow of a doubta

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say. But I'm excited. We we got all these emails.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to just pingpong it, I'll do want.

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<v Speaker 3>You to do? Yeah, yeah, yeah the first one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, So like we said, we got some emails

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<v Speaker 3>for you, let's start with this first one. Very excited.

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<v Speaker 3>First one from somebody named Sam. Hello Sam, Hey Sam,

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<v Speaker 3>Hello you too, And it says people on the Jerry

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<v Speaker 3>Curl boxes are real. Oh but I want this clear.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the texturizer boxes. It doesn't have to be just

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<v Speaker 3>for Jerry curls. I think the box shows you that

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<v Speaker 3>there's an assortment of hairstyles that it can be used for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sam's being a little reductive in just calling it

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry curl boxes, but we we respect that. Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it deserves to be reductive. I knew I knew a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who use the texture riser and the

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<v Speaker 1>left terrible stains on people's clothes because of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So talking to me, Bro, I thought we got past that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see use the texturizers?

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<v Speaker 3>I used it like three months ago. We talked about

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<v Speaker 3>it on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh damn. Is that how this came up? Was that

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<v Speaker 1>you were Yeah, I burn my face because I did

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<v Speaker 1>it all drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>On my bad. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot. You made your beard all like wavy and.

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<v Speaker 3>Ship Not really, to be completely honest, not really. I

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<v Speaker 3>tried a hot oil treatment the other day. My shit,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just it's just it's thick. It's just thick.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing that you can do about it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's only so much I can do. But it's just

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<v Speaker 3>always gonna be. It's like it's like it's like brush.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just so dense. Anyways, besides that shot likes it

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<v Speaker 3>took me. Let's get it. Hello you too? Love the pod.

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast host Pat of Couple's Couch has revealed many times

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<v Speaker 3>that he was on a Jerry Curl or s curl

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<v Speaker 3>box when he was younger. It's important to note that

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<v Speaker 3>he has naturally curly hair, and I don't believe he

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<v Speaker 3>needed or used the product when he was modeling it.

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<v Speaker 3>He may have signed an NBA regarding his naturally curly hair,

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<v Speaker 3>So don't get the man in legal trouble by asking

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<v Speaker 3>if he used it on air. Well, we're literally doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>You should talk to him about it. You're very welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna click this link because it's not hyper

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<v Speaker 3>linked and I don't have the time, but here's what

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<v Speaker 3>I do have to say. I bet he didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>cur I bet he did have curly hair, because as

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<v Speaker 3>someone who was trying to achieve the dream portrayed on

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<v Speaker 3>the box who fell so so short, Yeah, don't I

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<v Speaker 3>don't believe. I don't believe that those men were on Lusters.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's call out the Luster's company. Let's say who it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, who it is Lusters. I don't think those

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<v Speaker 3>men were.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're saying that. You don't even believe that anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that was on one of those boxes was the product

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<v Speaker 1>of the box of what.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the box? I think they were products of

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<v Speaker 3>the West Indies. God damn, I don't think. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think they were. I don't think they. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>they used it.

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<v Speaker 1>You think these are weird, like biracial or I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think sort of like, uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be known that I'm not. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think biracial people are weird. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I didn't mean to phrase it that way. That

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't my interpretation of what you said either. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>you think that this was more a reflection of them

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<v Speaker 1>handpicking the right people for the job. Princess Penny, who

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<v Speaker 1>is a former guest on the show, is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those types of dudes. He wasn't on any of the boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's one of those dudes that like allegedly has

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<v Speaker 1>like extremely curly haired despite being like a full.

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<v Speaker 3>Black doesn't he keep his shit short though.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes he'll grow it out and it is very like

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<v Speaker 1>wavy curly, sort of like it looks like what Lone

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<v Speaker 1>used to do to his hair back right back in

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<v Speaker 1>those you know, early two thousand days.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a comb.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks like a kunk and he says it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a kunk. And I'll leave that to the listeners

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<v Speaker 1>to decide, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is true some people do have that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so my daughter is gonna be one of

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<v Speaker 1>those people. She's like a fairly not dark skin, but

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<v Speaker 1>like a fairly She's a very clearly a black girl

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<v Speaker 1>with just very red, curly hair.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's odd, right, And because your hair is not

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<v Speaker 3>you have pretty good hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've curly hair, and my wife has even curlier,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of softer hair than me, And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>she got honestly a weird mixture of both of our hair,

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<v Speaker 1>but is also way darker than both of us.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know what to do. He kind of

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<v Speaker 3>got the best of both worlds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool. I'm not gonna lie is a cool

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<v Speaker 1>looking low kid.

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<v Speaker 3>And I she got lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I could sell her to a circus and

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<v Speaker 1>not lose our relationship, I do it, man.

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<v Speaker 3>In a heartbeat. I've always thought about that. If I

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<v Speaker 3>have kids, I almost feel like I gotta cut it

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, or I gotta get a woman with

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<v Speaker 3>equally curly hair, and we just build a dark haired dynasty.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying you need, you need a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>something else mixed in so that your kid doesn't also

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<v Speaker 1>have this bush textured beard.

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<v Speaker 3>It's for a dude, It's fine. I feel like it

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<v Speaker 3>would be difficult for one, because my shit is so dense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard for me even if I tried. I tried,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think we all had the time period

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<v Speaker 3>where we were like, let's just grow out on afro.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to get braids, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>And like, my shit's so curly it doesn't even it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't go out, it just gets more. Like I grew

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<v Speaker 3>my ship for like months and it literally was maybe

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<v Speaker 3>like an inch or two for my skull, Like it

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<v Speaker 3>just is so the tight, tight coils. Yeah, it's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even shave with the razor. I have to

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<v Speaker 3>use the electric because if I shave with the razor,

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<v Speaker 3>my whole ship, my neckla's like a crunch bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you'll get those bumps.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh nasty, bad bad bumps. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you don't want that. It's not worth it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, I just get a shave at

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<v Speaker 3>the barbershop. Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>That is tragic. And I don't know that I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't on any woman. It's not okay. Hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>I love myself. I think I'm beautiful. Listen to David,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're a ghoul and yeah, yeah, You're a

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<v Speaker 1>hideous creature from deep at the bottom of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sorry that that that curses, befalling.

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<v Speaker 3>You from the inner recesses of the dark continent. Uh No,

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<v Speaker 3>I like it, but it is hard to make like

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<v Speaker 3>it is hard to mean, it's not hard. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta keep a I gotta keep a little fade

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<v Speaker 3>in my beard trim. I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this. I used to be very jealous of

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<v Speaker 1>people with your hair texture growing up because, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>my hair. I go to a black barber. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>gone to black barbers, except for a sweet period in

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<v Speaker 1>New York where I was going to a Dominican barber.

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<v Speaker 1>And frankly, they're the ones that actually know how to

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<v Speaker 1>cut my hair. Black barbers are always very frustrated cutting

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<v Speaker 1>my hair because they're it doesn't do the shit that

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<v Speaker 1>like traditional black hair does. It like curls in every

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<v Speaker 1>direction in a way that makes it very hard to

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<v Speaker 1>not cut, but to actually like even out and make

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<v Speaker 1>look the way that like a traditional haircut is meant

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<v Speaker 1>to look.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, this is an issue. I never I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like you know what I mean, It's like they say,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want no one else's problems.

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<v Speaker 1>I never my Bob.

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<v Speaker 3>Even crossed my mind. I always assume your hair would

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<v Speaker 3>be but you have a you keep a nice fade though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Bob Barber is He's always complaining to me about

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<v Speaker 1>my hair. It takes this nigga sometimes like an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half for a fucking haircut, and like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nuts, like it truly is like And it's partly

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<v Speaker 1>because he's just talking. He's talking the whole time and

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<v Speaker 1>and fucking distracted. But I think the other part of

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<v Speaker 1>it is, like you truly have to have like a,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have an expertise in my hair to

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<v Speaker 1>really do it the way it's supposed to be done.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't fade as easily or sort of clearly as

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<v Speaker 1>I think thicker hair does.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn damn all right, man, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, we all we all got problems.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. You know, everybody's gotta you know what they need

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<v Speaker 3>and this is this is Pat and Penning. They need

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<v Speaker 3>they need with them. You need what the Asian dudes

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<v Speaker 3>be doing. Oh to get it rekinky, you need to kink.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to think back. Now I can get on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Box, that box for the Asian dudes that wanna that

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<v Speaker 1>want to put weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Glue in their.

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<v Speaker 1>Hair so that it could be.

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<v Speaker 3>They could get faded. It's just a picture of.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, and you know it's written in clicks. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like just for a click clack, click clack.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, oh yes, keep that click back with click clack.

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<v Speaker 1>We're calling upon you because we have new merch. We

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<v Speaker 1>have very exciting merch that we are now selling and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's fucking great. We love it so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Just sleek, it's sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, you want to tell them what we have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have three different types of hats, which is

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<v Speaker 3>really fun. We have a two tone hat, an alien

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<v Speaker 3>dad hat, the traditional logo in black and khaki. Then

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<v Speaker 3>we have the enamel pin with an alien who has

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<v Speaker 3>a coofie on it. Since my mama told me. And

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<v Speaker 3>then we have t shirts that say proud little Mama,

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<v Speaker 3>which is who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can buy the merch now, go to my

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<v Speaker 1>Mama told me dot Merchcentral dot com and we want

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<v Speaker 1>you to have all the sweet stuff, So get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched a video the other day of an Asian

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<v Speaker 1>dude going through the process to get dreads and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't real dreads. They were like sewing them in or

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<v Speaker 1>doing some sort of weird like the process was insane,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like it was truly phenomenal to watch

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<v Speaker 1>just these Korean men fighting to have black hair.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen that where they put all the shit in

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<v Speaker 3>it, and it's like, I don't think it's worth all that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not worth any And you don't look cool,

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<v Speaker 1>big dog. It looks odd to see you the way

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<v Speaker 1>that you are presenting yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you offended by those things? Does that? Does that

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<v Speaker 1>offend you? When when Asian people do that?

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't. Man, I've been really thinking about what I

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<v Speaker 3>think and feel about appropriation recently, and I A I

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<v Speaker 3>do too many racist voices in my home to be

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<v Speaker 3>offended by anything anybody else does. If you heard what

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<v Speaker 3>I always say it in the house, you would not

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<v Speaker 3>like it. So there's that, and it's just like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't. You can't safeguard culture in that way. That's

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<v Speaker 3>like how humanity works. You see something you want to

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<v Speaker 3>emulate it. So it's like cultural appropriation. I don't in theory.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mind it. I mind it when homage isn't

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<v Speaker 3>paid to the originators, like in the way that like

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<v Speaker 3>when they say, like Travis Colce invented to fade like

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<v Speaker 3>shit like that, I think, yes, this is pretty pretty terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>But the idea that somebody else wants to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't. I can't. I really I can't be mad

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<v Speaker 3>at that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm never honestly, I'm never really that mad at

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<v Speaker 1>any of this stuff. To your point, I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>when it becomes like a trending topic because of something

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<v Speaker 1>that is an arbitrary choice that black people have been

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<v Speaker 1>doing for years or other races have been doing for years.

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<v Speaker 1>But but in general, no, go ahead and wear the

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<v Speaker 1>silly outfits that you if you look ridiculous, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make fun of you. And that should just be the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the conversation. It shouldn't be a reflection on

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<v Speaker 1>like hatred or or cruelty against my race. It's just like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>you look dumb. That wasn't for you, and you know it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know, and I'm gonna say something.

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<v Speaker 3>And also it's like where who are we if we're

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<v Speaker 3>not sampling bits of other cultures, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Then it becomes everything because it becomes that rhetoric feels

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<v Speaker 3>very separate but equal type of shit where it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so if I can't you can't do my shit, then

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do your shit. And I'm like, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna put on a pair of hookahs and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go down and I'm gonna eat a piece of pizza. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, and fucking whatever. Like that's

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<v Speaker 3>the point of the world is to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>try things. And I think that like keeping keeping things,

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<v Speaker 3>then that becomes that's why you know, niggas don't ski

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. Like just I've had so many things within

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<v Speaker 3>my life where I've been like, well, black people don't

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<v Speaker 3>do that, and it's like, man, fucking shut.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, Yeah we should, we could, we should.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Oh, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, black people are wearing those wrap around Oakley shades.

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<v Speaker 3>Now yeah I don't really.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not doing it. But that's truly like

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<v Speaker 1>where we're at where like we are. We are also

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<v Speaker 1>simplers of culture that was not our culture, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think for years we justified it as well. We made

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<v Speaker 1>that shit cool, and that is true. Like there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that like culturally we turned into

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<v Speaker 1>something flier than the white interpretation of it was. But

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>that also comes with its own bias, right, Like I

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>think that that black white people would also argue that

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>they made country music cool, and like, to some extent,

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.400
<v Speaker 1>they kind of did, but that doesn't mean that they

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 1>should have ownership of the thing. It just means that, like,

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>all right, for a period, y'all were the only ones

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 1>rocking this shit and you kind of made a swag

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:49.399
<v Speaker 1>inside of it that black people weren't accessing, and that's fine.

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just people got it, Like you can't limit yourself.

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 3>It all feels like putting yourself in a box culturally,

0:25:56.080 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 3>and that to me feels like it just feels like

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.719
<v Speaker 3>that's a road to like keeping us in the in

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 3>the dark on other things.

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. This all feels like a big argument

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 1>of two men who are like, that's why we should

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>get to fuck white women, and I don't.

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't want that.

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't want that to be the misinterpretation of our intentionency.

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 3>Yo, that's the typical podcast, right, and that in turn

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.439
<v Speaker 3>is not only fu with Filipinos.

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Like, no, I'm not saying we should just be

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>doing everything willy nilly I'm just saying, like, don't be

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 1>afraid of trying and letting other people try the things

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>that that we maybe sometimes think we should hold deer.

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying you should be

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 3>out here fucking all the white women, but if you're

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 3>trying to get your duke sucked.

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Now, they made that coup.

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 3>That's my favorite part about this podcast. Sometimes it feels

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 3>like we're having a really good conversation, really getting to

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the see yeah, and then it just

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 3>goes back to white women's sucking dick. Yeah.

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>No, listen, we can't stay healers for too long. People

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>will start believing in us in a way that they shouldn't.

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm not trying to answer those d ms.

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Fuck no, man, I was gonna hurt myself real bad,

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>but then I listen to your podcast, and now I

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>feel like, no, fuck, you hurt yourself, hurt yourself the

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>way you were supposed to.

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm not on the same size if you're going

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 3>through it. I'm sure there are numbers you can call.

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 3>That was an insane thing to say. This man is

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 3>truly a light skinned devil. I do think I took

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 3>it too far that time. Most of the time, I'm like,

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 3>oh man, they'll be all right, but that's time too fun.

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't I'm not proud of that Joyce listening. It's boundaries.

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>It's all about boundaries. We got another email from a

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 1>person named Kia. Kia made sure that that she made

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>her pronunciation clear in the email, but she said, Dear

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Langston and David, my name is Kia, and I am

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>a big fan of the podcast. You are hilarious and

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>wildly talented, and I've been following both of your careers

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>for some time. You sound like a big time agent. Kiya,

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 1>what do you have opportunities for us? She said, I'm

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>writing in response to the recent s Curl episode. Growing up,

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>my auntie was a marketing director for Luster and also

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>worked in marketing for Strength of Nature Global LLC. Let's go,

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>you got some you got some aunties do or your

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>auntie's doing work.

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 3>I like that.

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>My little cousin was an endurable and strikingly beautiful kid

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>with thick, long and natural straight hair. Everyone said she

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>should be a she should be a pink moisturizer just

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>for me model. Unfortunately, she could not model because she

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>was related to a company employee. That's crazy.

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes, nuts of all the companies that I thought wouldn't

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 3>care about that.

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like y'all can't benefit from some nepotism. What the fuck.

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Put your baby on the box, I would.

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no fucking way. You got the look. They

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>were watching children turn into celebrities simply because of their

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>relationship to famous people every day. There's no reason that

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I should have to deal with with Dan Levy and

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and not this little es Cirl baby.

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 3>If I gotta watch another Baldwin get famous, you could

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 3>put your little baby on that box.

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, fucking Hailey Bieber, I know where the

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>fuck she came from, Boston.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 3>She said.

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, she gannad because she was related to a company employee. However,

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>my friend's little sister was a just for me girl.

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>She had long, thick hair that straightened easily. It's important

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to note that she never in life had been given

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a hair relaxer, and according to her, most of the

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>models didn't even use the products. Wow, so those little

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>girl models, while falsely advertising, were real. I called my

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>aunt and asked if she's ever met an s curl model,

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and she told me she has not okay, the further further,

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>This further proves that they don't exist. I will say

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen s Curl models in anything else, but

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>many of the just for Me girls, including my friend's sister,

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>went on to have successful modeling careers. Hope this helps

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and keep up the good work, guys. I listen every week.

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Thank you Kiyava would have we would have said it

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Kia even without the pronunciation, but we appreciate that. Man.

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 3>I think this goes back to what we were saying.

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 3>We had even said this off air. Of all the

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 3>people who reached out for us, it was it was

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 3>only the just for Me girls who people claim to have,

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 3>people who claim to have ties and stuff. No men,

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 3>not one men.

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, even you know, I know they're saying this podcast

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>or was a a whatever an s curl model, But

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you know the proof is in the pudding. They're just

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>aren't that. We need a little more evidence here.

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, And and because was he in? Who was he?

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Because there's different boxes too. There's some of the boxes

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 3>just have one man.

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>But I'm talking about remember like the ads and like

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Vibe magazine, where was all six.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, that it would be like all the options. Yeah,

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you could do to your hair.

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Traditional afro, the curl, the curl, fade, braids, waves, waves, yeah,

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 3>like the whole Yeah. Those those guys never those guys

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 3>never met each other.

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll also say this, what what feels objectively true inside

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of both of these emails so far is that the

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>people who are chosen for these opportunities are not users

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>of the product. And that feels very telling of what

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>these products actually are. It feels like, ultimately what this

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>is a type of poison that they are serving up

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to our community. And they are wise enough to know

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that they can't poison the motherfuckers on the box because

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the poison don't actually do what it claims to do.

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>They need a motherfucker that looks like what they want

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>the poison to make us believe it does right.

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Right, And I mean that's the nature of advertising. I

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 3>don't feel like it's just insidio. I mean, you think

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 3>them dudes got buff on the bowflex commercial from using

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 3>a bowflex, Well.

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>That's just sure, that is what I thought. I thought

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the Tiger Jim worked, and now I know different.

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 3>I remember there was this girl in like ninth grade,

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 3>and everybody claims she got titties because she just used

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 3>a bowflex all summer, which was a crazy.

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Girls, there's a few leaps inside of.

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 3>That, and you, yeah, it's crazy. Everybody's like, she just

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 3>has tits because she used a bow like like, of

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 3>course not what are you talking about that? Anyways? Yeah? Anyways, Yeah,

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean I hate that. I think that's true, though,

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think these are people with good hair. Mm.

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't think these were people who Now that being said,

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 3>do I think there's a situation in which you could

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 3>use those products to get the desired effect? Yes, my

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 3>shit's just fucked up right.

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>You're saying that that some people might be able to

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>use that product and gaining the powers of the of

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the s curl, but unfortunately you were not blessed with

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that as an opportunity, I'd argue probably most Mmmm, that

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>feels real to me. I'm not even sure it would

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>do something good to my hair. I think think it

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>would make my hair like look almost like who was

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that Jason Tatum? I was gonna say, justin wairini, you

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like, like, I think it would

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>make me look wet and and and almost like fucked up.

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 1>If I tried to do it, I.

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Think you could pull off a wet look. Though. I

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 3>think you could be wet. I think you could be wet.

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Bro, I don't want to be wet.

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I feel like you know you don't want to your father,

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 3>But I'm saying, if you need it to, yeah, I

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 3>think if you needed to, I think you could. You could,

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 3>You could be wet.

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I asked my barber, uh more recently than than I

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>care to admit. I asked my barbera to cut cut,

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>give me the Jason Tatum cut. And afterwards I was like,

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>this is a mistake. I don't I don't like this,

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>not one bit. I gotta That's when I cut my

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>hair back off really yeah, because I was growing it

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 1>for a little while.

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Like that shut It was kind of longer for a little.

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Bit, like six seven months ago. I was like, I'm

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a on my hair out of Anna. Let my natural

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>curls curl and ship. And then I was like, hey,

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>hit me with that Jason Tatum and I saw and

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like.

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Nah, do you think that's why you avoid a part

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 3>as well?

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that that if you are a light skinned dude,

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:22.760
<v Speaker 1>making certain hair choices. You gotta lean into that character.

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 3>Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you guys

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 3>are conservative. You're pretty I think you have a pretty

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 3>conservative As long as I've known you, I feel like

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 3>you've kept it pretty conservative.

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Bro.

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 1>If if you go on tone Bell, you got a

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>tone Bell, you know what I mean? You gottah.

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 3>That's how he got season two on Netflix. Bro, big fan.

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>But you gotta really be down to be a sexy

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>FLEXI yeah, like dude, Yeah, you gotta roller skate, you

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta wear sunglasses at times when sunglasses are inappropriate. You

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta really be that.

0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's fair.

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I ain't there.

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 3>I think that I have a latent life sexy coming

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 3>oh okay, because in my twenties I actually rebelled against

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 3>it and I was like, I'm gonna keep my hair

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 3>gross natural to be just like too long and unkempt

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 3>like a why, and my beard too, and I'm just

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 3>gonna be out here looking fairly homeless, to be honest,

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 3>And what do you think that was? I think that

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:31.680
<v Speaker 3>everybody has a point in their life where they reject

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 3>the beauty standards that are put upon them in one

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 3>way or another. And I think especially being within entertainment

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 3>and being somewhat of a non conventional black person. Anyways,

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I almost felt empowered in that, like

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 3>almost like I'm gonna be unkempt and be like this,

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 3>and you're gonna have to look at it, and you're

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 3>gonna have to give me these meetings and you're gonna

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, I think it was kind of a

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 3>sense of defiance. And I was broke, but so seventy thirty,

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 3>but I think there was a level. I think it

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.879
<v Speaker 3>was a level of defiance. Yeah, that's real. Yeah, just

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 3>like rebelling against the entertainment. Even though I'm such a hypocrite,

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm in entertainment. That's how I make my money. Do

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 3>not get it twisted.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>It is a weird thing where like I remember the

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>year that I did jfl Rip jfl inion. Fucking stupid

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>asses let it die, I guess Yeah, stubbies, you guys

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:42.280
<v Speaker 1>ran out of money. You're the biggest fucking comedy festival

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:44.280
<v Speaker 1>in the world, and now you just had to cancel,

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you idiots. Yeah, it's going on. That being said, book

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>is in twenty twenty five. Hey, come on, if you

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>make some money back, I apologie.

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you funny, not give me.

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>But the year that I did New Faces, I remember

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I had a really long beard. I grew my beard

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 1>super long, and I think similarly it had a quality

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>of like rebelling self sabotage inside of it, where I

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm not going to show up here and

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>be handsome because I don't want them to be looking

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 1>at me on some like oh well cast them in

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>some handsome boy shit. I want this to be like truly,

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be the funny guy and it's just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be on my own merit.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so odd because it's like, at least for me,

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 3>I was doing that as if I had had a

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<v Speaker 3>life before where I was classically the handsome guy and

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 3>now I was rejecting it. I didn't I always been

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:44.240
<v Speaker 3>the same guy, you know what I mean. People weren't

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 3>coming at me like we want you to be a

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 3>lead in this fucking rom com. I just did that

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.879
<v Speaker 3>shit to myself. Yeah.

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Similarly, it's not like I grew this beard and then

0:38:56.640 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 1>was doing like dirty boy jokes. I was still up

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>there doing the material I did. I just now had

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.439
<v Speaker 1>a beard and I had to explain to people why

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I decided to look like fucking you know, castaway.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean to be fair, I was doing dirty

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 3>boy jokes.

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:17.399
<v Speaker 1>For a while. Yeah, but you do dirty boy jokes now.

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 3>I'd say that that that.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:25.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean that as a majority.

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.839
<v Speaker 3>It's okay. I said you were born at home. You

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:29.919
<v Speaker 3>have to get over it.

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean that as a negative. I'm a big

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 1>fan of your comedy. Well, but I think you know

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you're a rascally rabbit. I think you're aware of the

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 1>material you sort of live in.

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I can't help it, man, I just am a I've been.

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:55.959
<v Speaker 3>I've been really trying to tone it back. I don't

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm not wild in my heart. It's just my actions

0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 3>end up so wild somehow.

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you just live a very wild life. I was

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>talking to somebody about you the other day. It might

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.439
<v Speaker 1>have been Sean Patten, and he was saying how much

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.479
<v Speaker 1>he loves seeing you and loves drinking with you and shit,

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, man, bory that dude, when he

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>starts drinking, he could just make the night, keep going

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 1>out of anything. And I was like, yeah, that's exactly right.

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.479
<v Speaker 1>He's just he's a dude who just keep having fun

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>even when the fun seems like it's come to a

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>natural halt, you'll find a way to create a new,

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 1>chaotic little game inside of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the problem is that I've had so much

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 3>fun and not fun places like I can really be

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.959
<v Speaker 3>with myself and just be alone and have a good

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.479
<v Speaker 3>I've learned that from just like growing up and being

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 3>grounded and moving all the time, just like I was

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 3>always having to do that anyways. So now yeah, it's like,

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I ga, we don't have to be doing anything. I

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 3>could have a great time. Yeah, but it does lead

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.720
<v Speaker 3>me to some like wild situations.

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:04.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it was only meant out of uh

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>love and admiration and not in any way shaming you

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:10.919
<v Speaker 1>for your ability to keep the party going.

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you did just call me dirty, you dirty jokes.

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 3>I am what I am, But honestly, I'm clean. I

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 3>paid tickets and stuff I pay, I pay taxes, I

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 3>have some money. I'm not like a monster. I just

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 3>like to have a little fun on the weekends.

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>You have a good time. We're calling upon you because

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>we have we have new merch. We have very exciting

0:41:56.200 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>merch that we are now selling and it's it's fucking great.

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>We love it so much.

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Just sleek, it's sexy.

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Come on, you want to tell them what we have?

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have three different types of hats, which is

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 3>really fun. We have a two tone hat, an alien

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 3>dad hat, the traditional logo in black and khaki. Then

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 3>we have the enamel pin with an alien who has

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 3>a koofie on it since my mama told me. And

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 3>then we have t shirts that say proud little Mama,

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 3>which is who you are.

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can buy the merch now go to my

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 1>mama told me dot Merchcentral dot com and we want

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you to have all the sweet stuff.

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 3>So get it all right? So next one is from caira.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, okay, yeah, sorry, I didn't know how to pronounce that,

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I think that's right.

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 3>How are you gonna do it?

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, I think dyslexia kicked it hard and

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, see, yeah, bron.

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Whoever you are, we appreciate it. She had an accent,

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 3>which is confusing. The accent mark on the A. We

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 3>know you're from America. Don't do that.

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Cut it out.

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Hey, hey from Chicago. So my dad worked a lot

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 3>of people. It shut out. By the way, I never

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 3>thought about this until this chain of emails shut out

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 3>for Luster to seemingly being a very large employer of

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.359
<v Speaker 3>corporate black people. Your product is poisoned. But I think

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 3>it's great that you do that. I do like I

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 3>am thro that.

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I think that's fair.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 3>So my dad worked for Luster Products in the nineties

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 3>into the two thousands. He was the art director and

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 3>packaging designer for several of their brands, including Scrow, PCJ Krema, Nature, Pink,

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Just for me, et cetera. I can't confirm the models

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 3>are real, lol. I spent summers helping edit the photos

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 3>yes Photoshop existed already, and typesetting the text to the packaging.

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 3>I know some of the women models went on to

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 3>acting like Shannon Thornton, but I don't know where them

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:05.919
<v Speaker 3>other niggas at. Again, where this feels like, I don't

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 3>want to say, this feels like a side job.

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's wild. Bring back our men.

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Bring back our man hashtag. Also, he designed P two

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:20.240
<v Speaker 3>K trading cards that when in the kids relaxed their boxes.

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 3>So I once met B two K, which to the

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 3>record executive, who that whose idea? That was genius?

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty that's pretty smart.

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 3>You get you get, you get your ship relaxed and

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:37.840
<v Speaker 3>assigned picture of Rasby.

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:41.760
<v Speaker 1>And this is ra before we knew what happened to Rasby.

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 3>This, yeah, we didn't know that. This is when he

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 3>was Raspberry Bee. And then she included she included one

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 3>of the trading cards and it says Kira, thanks for

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 3>the love. And it's signed by all of them.

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>All four Yeah you might as well by Rasby, by

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Jay Bugg and of course O Marion.

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 3>You know all the names.

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:06.439
<v Speaker 1>I know every name.

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I mean, I think that email also speaks

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 3>to the whole issue that we've been having.

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Right then, here's an even more fascinating one. I want

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 1>to follow this up that we got an email from

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a person named Eric who said, what up, Dull Langston David.

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll skip past some of the compliments, but he says,

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 1>go on to more pressing matters. One of the few

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 1>things I do know. He says that his father, who

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>let's just say was kind of not involved in his

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.239
<v Speaker 1>life at all, his choice.

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 3>So he was flying all right, you mean a cool guy.

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Say little man, I can't stick around. I got to do.

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Me and my CONTs to go.

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Says he didn't know him at all. But he goes

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>on to say one of the few things I do

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:00.840
<v Speaker 1>know about him is that he was a handsome devil.

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 1>In fact, the only thing he ever wait wait, wait, wait,

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.800
<v Speaker 1>let's not, let's not skip out what he said. Okay,

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. I've been in therapy for a while and

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm really getting the help I need something.

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Let's not.

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:17.280
<v Speaker 1>That's oh well, I was trying to give him some space.

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 1>That worked.

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 3>We need to tell people to go to therapy. It

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 3>hurts he wasn't there. I also have a lady I

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 3>talked to.

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, I'm sorry that your dad was a

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>piece of ship, but but he was very handy.

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:31.479
<v Speaker 3>He was just.

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 1>You sent He sent us pictures of his.

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Father and yeah, I'm sorry. Continue, I just wanted to

0:46:38.120 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 3>get that therapy. No, you're right.

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:43.800
<v Speaker 1>He was a busy, busy man pretending the hammer stuff

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and uh fly jet engines. I don't I can't tell

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 1>from all of these pictures, but he was. He was

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a model of some sort. And it says that, in fact,

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that he ever gave me were these

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>dashing good looks. He took his face to print media.

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 1>My mom actually took his first eight x tens and

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 1>sent him on his first couple of calls. While he

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 1>was never immortalized on an S Curl or duke box,

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 1>he ended up in a lot of ads back in

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the day. Attached her just a few of the campaigns

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>he was a part of. From what I understand about

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the process back in those times, models in the papers

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>or boxes for our purposes were not credited, but were

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>still paid a lot depending on how many ads they

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>had done in the past. He was also the fire

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:30.280
<v Speaker 1>chief of a town in Connecticut. Whoa, he's a deadbeat

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and a fire chief.

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 3>What's your mom do?

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Why did she run him off that way? Because

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>fire chief? That's a good man. So his modeling career

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 1>was very much a side hustle in the most eighties

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 1>way possible. I hope this helps. I'm always happy to

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>contribute anything I can to further.

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:54.240
<v Speaker 3>Your work, by bitch.

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And yes, his dad was a very handsome man, very buff,

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:02.879
<v Speaker 1>sort of like a handsome Robert Townsend, almost like a.

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 3>Sex good mustache, good mustache, broad shoulders too. He was

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 3>a man.

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was filling out that shirt. Look at you

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>be man. But point being another man who is missing?

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:48:21.040 --> 0:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>We know information about this individual, but we do not

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>have it sounds like from Eric direct contact with him.

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 3>Last scene of the fire in Connecticut.

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really goes on. I think one of the

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 1>things that seems most consistent is that in other people

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:44.240
<v Speaker 1>sent us emails saying that the Shade Room has covered

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 1>this subject looking for the hair models and maybe has

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.440
<v Speaker 1>found some of the quote unquote kings that are on

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:51.839
<v Speaker 1>the boxes. But at the end of the day, it

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>does seem relatively consistent that these men in particular do

0:48:56.719 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>not seem to be floating to the surface as much

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>as we thought they should.

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is scary, man. I don't know really what

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 3>to do.

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I think we, you know, in between donating to all

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the other tragedies that are happening around the world, obviously

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of places that you could be

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>putting your money right now, I think we need to

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>start an organization. I think that we need to dedicate

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>our time and energy towards protecting the men who have

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:30.720
<v Speaker 1>been on the S CurlBOX and may be captive somewhere,

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 1>And we also need to protect future men from finding

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:37.800
<v Speaker 1>themselves on the S CurlBOX or the missing milk cartons

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 1>of the black community. You know what I mean, Like

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>that is essentially what they are. It's just it's missing

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:46.360
<v Speaker 1>kids on a fucking s CurlBOX.

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 3>It's so strange. I don't even think as much as

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 3>this is a conspiracy podcast, I don't even know if

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.279
<v Speaker 3>this is. I don't know what to make of this.

0:49:57.640 --> 0:49:58.840
<v Speaker 3>It does trouble me, though.

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 1>It is trouble and we thank you all for sending

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 1>all of all of what you've sent, and we we

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that you sort of can help verify some of

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:13.120
<v Speaker 1>our fears and and correct us on some of the

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 1>things that we may have been incorrect on. But more

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:19.280
<v Speaker 1>than anything, we hope that you can help to resolve

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:21.680
<v Speaker 1>some of this, that maybe we can find a way

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to make it so that these products are not simply

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 1>a tool of manipulation, but that these models get the

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>credit that they deserve and hopefully can find the safety

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.320
<v Speaker 1>that we want them to find in their own lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's good man. And also, if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to give some money, donate to my kickstarter or

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<v Speaker 3>rekink the only thing to get that nap back.

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<v Speaker 1>David, despite all of this, does want to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the box of a of a hair care product for

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<v Speaker 1>Asian men. So yeah, yeah, go ahead and help my

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<v Speaker 1>man get his modeling career into into focus.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to tell the people where they can

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<v Speaker 1>find you on what cool shit you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just follow me a cool guy jokes eighty seven

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<v Speaker 3>on Instagram. All my stuff is coming up there. Watch

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<v Speaker 3>Royal Crackers every week on HBO max or max ono

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<v Speaker 3>what it's called. And yeah, other than that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>get the merch and oh, Netflix is a joke. Festival

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<v Speaker 3>May fifth, my birthday at the Comedy Store. Come on

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<v Speaker 3>out and see us. It's gonna be a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>We already got somebody bringing me a vegan funnel cake

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, could be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Doubtful, but maybe I have my helpes.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully bring us to come.

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<v Speaker 1>To the festival. Show it's gonna be dope at seven

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<v Speaker 1>pm at the Comedy Store May fifth. As always, you

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<v Speaker 1>can follow me at Langston Kerman. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>buy merch, you can do it all at Mamma told

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<v Speaker 1>me dot merchcentral dot com. We would love to for

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<v Speaker 1>you to have a hat, have a pen, show up

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<v Speaker 1>with all your cool shit, and if you didn't show

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<v Speaker 1>up with your shit, buy some shit when you leave.

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<v Speaker 1>And as always, if you want to send us your

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<v Speaker 1>own drops, your own conspiracy theories, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell us where in fact these scurl models are being

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<v Speaker 1>held and what is happening to them, send it all

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<v Speaker 1>to Mamma pod at gmail dot com and uh and like, subscribe,

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<v Speaker 1>do all the things that you're supposed to do YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple podcasts, Spotify, the like. And that's the whole shabang

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<v Speaker 1>by bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>My hip.

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<v Speaker 3>Send your.

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<v Speaker 2>A kualabans a racists, player of ows, mad money acts

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<v Speaker 2>inventing turkey stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't help me