1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Falling up on the Supreme Courts. A number of Republicans, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: as you know, and as you've been asked about, to 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: have spoken out about the president's pledge to pick a 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: black woman for the hot sport. How do you respond, 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: specifically to Ted Cruz who overnight solve it offensive and 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: defensive the black woman they really make that WoT. Well, 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: here's what I would say. First, Just over a year ago, 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: the previous president also promised to select a woman for 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. Not only were there no complaints about 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: choosing a nominee from a specific demographic from the same corners, 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: but there was widespread praise of now Justice Barrett on 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: those grounds, with Republican lawmakers widely highlighting that they thought 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: this was positive for women in America. So take Senator 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Cruz himself. He had no objection to Donald Trump promising 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: he'd nominated a woman in twenty twenty. Repeat, no objection 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: at all. In fact, he praised her on these grounds 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: during praised her on these grounds. The nominee during her 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: confirmation hearing, Senator Cruz said quote, I think you're an 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: amaze using role model for little girls. What advice would 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: you give little girls? When President Reagan Honors campaign pledge 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: to place the first woman on the court. He said 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: it symbolized the unique American opportunity. There is no outcry 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: around that. 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Senator First, 142 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: you're in trouble again. You have, You've gotten us both 143 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: in troubled again. Verdict some weeks ago was I think 144 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: the first podcast in American history to be referenced at 145 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: during a White House press briefing. Now I think we're 146 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: also the second podcast in history to be referenced because 147 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: of your comments on this show about the Supreme Court nominee. 148 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: You know, I gotta say, the media and Democrats are 149 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: really phenomenal. So we saw our last podcast. We talked 150 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: a lot about the Supreme Court, and you and I 151 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 1: talked about how it is offensive that Biden threw down 152 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: that the only criterion he would look look for in 153 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: nominating a replacement for Justice Briars that it had to 154 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: be a black woman, and the media lost their mind. 155 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there were stories all over the country with 156 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: media reporters saying this is terrible. And you know, you 157 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: look at Jensaki there, she actually engages in the logical 158 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: sleight of hand, were actually the illogical slight of hand 159 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: the left does often because she says, well, if you 160 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: don't support a quota, then you don't like whoever it is. 161 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Whatever the characteristic is about the person that they're putting 162 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: a quota in place. So for example, she says, well, 163 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: when Trump nominated Amy Coney Barrett, you said she was 164 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: a great role model for little girls. Well, of course 165 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: she is the fact that that you're saying someone's a 166 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: woman and a mom and an amazing scholar and an 167 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: amazing judge. Yes, she is a woman. We are aware 168 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: of that, you know. Do I think Clarence is Thomas's 169 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: life story growing up as a poor kid an African 170 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: American and Pinpoint Georgia overcoming poverty is an amazing story. Absolutely, yes. 171 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: But here's the weird thing. Democrats today, the modern left 172 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: in this includes all of the corporate media. They embrace 173 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: discriminating based on race. They believe in discriminating based on race. 174 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: So there's a difference between nominating someone who's a woman, 175 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: or nominating someone who's a black man, or nominating someone 176 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: who's a black woman, and saying, at the outset in 177 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: this instance, ninety four percent of Americans are categorically ineligible. 178 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what their qualifications are I Joe Biden 179 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: won't consider them. And you know it's it's interesting, Michael, 180 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: if anyone else tried to do this in your business. 181 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: Let's say you're running a business. Let's say Daily Wire 182 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: puts up an ad we're looking for a copy editor. 183 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: Only black women need apply, or only Native American men 184 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: need to apply, or only white guys need to apply. 185 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: It would be obviously illegal, It would be obviously wrong. 186 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: And what Biden is doing here, and it's amazing. Look, 187 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: he could have done the exact same thing, said we're 188 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: going to look for qualified jurists, for someone with a 189 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: great record, and nominated someone who happened to be a 190 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: black woman, and that would have been perhaps have been 191 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: a wonderful thing. But but you know, one of the 192 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: tells that shows that Biden actually really doesn't care about 193 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: crossing that threshold. Do you know who is one of 194 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: the very few people on planet Earth to have ever 195 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: filibustered a black woman nominated to be a federal judge. 196 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: I think I know the answer. But who that would be? 197 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: Joseph Biden. So when George W. Bush nominated Janice Rogers Brown, 198 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: an incredibly qualified jurist, to the DC Circuit, the Federal 199 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,239 Speaker 1: Court of Appeals. What did Joe Biden do he filibuster 200 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: not once twice. Not only Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer did it. 201 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: Dick Durbin did it. The Democrats all stood together and said, 202 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: not that black woman, because she actually believes in the 203 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: in the Constitution. We want a left wing activist. And 204 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: it's bizarre that that it is become an article of 205 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: faith among the left, that discriminating based on race, doing 206 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: it explicitly at the beginning, we are only looking at 207 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: black women. That's that almost takes on like this, this 208 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: religious significance to them. They believe in it. And I 209 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: got to say, you know, I'm reminded of something Chief 210 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: Justice Roberts said. He said, it's a sordid business that's 211 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: diving us up by race and drawing distinctions. Look, when 212 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: we were putting this podcast together, I was looking for 213 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: a host. But I didn't say, give me an Italian yalee. 214 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: I said, let's let's find the host. Look at Italian yale. 215 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: I would have that would have limited the field somewhat 216 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: and we would have landed on you. Nonetheless, it did. 217 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: It's true. You know, I don't think anyone has ever 218 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: put out a call for an Italian Yale, they usually 219 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: they say no, thank you need not apply. But that's 220 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: true because it was color blind and degree blind casting. 221 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: I got to do it. And I think your point 222 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: is really important here, which is Joe Biden could have 223 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: fulfilled his campaign pledge and just happened to have nominated 224 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: a black woman. But what he did was so crass, 225 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: it was so tactless, and if it were any other industry, 226 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: it would be illegal to say I'm taking ninety four 227 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: percent of Americans out of the running here. If you 228 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: look at public polling, people don't like this. The majority 229 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: of Americans think that Joe Biden should have considered all 230 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: of the nominees, even if he ended up with a 231 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: black woman in the end. So I think the proof 232 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: of the pudding there is in the tasting. Yet seventy 233 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: six percent of Americans disagree with what Biden's doing. And 234 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: let's take for an example, because SAKI in the media, 235 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: this is their talking point. They're going to is oo, 236 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: Trump did this with Amy Coney Barrett. Well, actually no, 237 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: he didn't. So what they're referring to is that Trump 238 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: at a rally just a few days before he announced 239 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: Amy Coney Barrett's a nomination, said he's gonna he's gonna 240 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: nominate someone, and she's a woman. Well, yes, he was 241 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: aware she was a woman, so once he decided who 242 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: he was going to nominate, he acknowledged that she was 243 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: a woman. But if you think about how Trump did this, 244 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: Trump did it in a way There's never been a 245 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: president who's done it this way. He put out a list, 246 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: a detailed, specific list of potential Supreme Court nominees while 247 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: he was still a candidate for president. He had twenty 248 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: one names honored initially. Then he supplemented that list. He 249 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: added ten more names, and in fact, we've talked about 250 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: on the podcast how the ten more names he added 251 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: were a condition of my endorsing Trump. He added Mike 252 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Lea to that list, and he added Neil Gorsuch to 253 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: that list. That was the second list, and then he 254 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: put out a third list, where among others, he stuck 255 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: me on it. So I think the third list got 256 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: much much weaker. The quality dropped dramatically, precipitously. But look 257 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: Trump's lists, they were racially diverse. They had men, women, 258 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: they had had folks of all sorts. Of different races, 259 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: but they were jurists selected because Trump believed they would 260 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: be faithful to the Constitution. They had jurispredential outlook that 261 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: would protect the Bill of Rights. And in this instance, 262 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: Amy Coney Barrett was the third nomination Trump had made, 263 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: So when Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh, he had interviewed Amy 264 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Coney Barrett. He had sat down and interview her, so 265 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: she didn't get that slot, but he knew he liked her. 266 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: In fact, I talked to Trump at the time and 267 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: even after Kavanaugh, He's like, she's going to be the 268 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: next one. She's really good. As far as I know. 269 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden hasn't interviewed anyone. He doesn't know who any 270 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: of the potential candidates are. He's just said, if you're 271 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: not fitting my racial category and gender category, you are ineligible. 272 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: So Merritt Garland, no matter how good Merritt Garland might 273 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: be in his interview with Joe Biden, he's the wrong 274 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: skin color. And today we had a hearing in the 275 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee. One of Biden's nominees is an Asian American 276 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: woman who's been nominated to be a federal judge, and 277 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: she wrote in law school. She was actually in law 278 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: school with me, a year behind me. I didn't know 279 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: her in law school, but she was a year behind 280 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: me in law school. She wrote this article that is 281 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: really radical, that is actually blasting Asian Americans who oppose 282 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: discrimination against Asian Americans. She calls them neo conservative Asian Americans, 283 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:31,119 Speaker 1: and she explains that really woke Asian Americans should embrace 284 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:36,479 Speaker 1: Harvard and Yale and other elite schools discriminating against Asian Americans. 285 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: That that's really a sign of being woke. And my 286 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: opening question, Michael, to her was is racial discrimination wrong? Now? 287 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: That ought to be a really simple question to answer. 288 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: Is racial discrimination wrong? Absolutely? Hell yes. She refused to 289 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: answer it. She wouldn't answer it. She said, well, the 290 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: Supreme Court has said blah blah. I said no, no no, 291 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: no, no no, I'm asking you is it wrong? And by 292 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: the way, she wouldn't defend her article. She just said, wow, 293 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what I was thinking. I said, I 294 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: didn't ask you what you were thinking. Do you agree 295 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: with what you said? She wouldn't answered. It's much the 296 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: same thing the far left supports as a matter of principle, 297 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: discriminating based on race and it's it's weird, it's and 298 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: it's really Look, it's the same thing that's in critical 299 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: race theory. Again. They believe race is the defining characteristic 300 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: and if they can discriminate based on race and it 301 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: suits their politics, they're all for it. So this is 302 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: playing out as I think a lot of us expected 303 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: it would, which is the left has come out. Joe 304 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: Biden has come out in favor of explicit racial discrimination, 305 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: and conservatives have objected to that and said racial discrimination 306 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: is a bad thing. And then the Democrats have come 307 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: back and said, well, you're racists. If you oppose racial discrimination, 308 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: you're racists and you hate black ladies or whatever. Okay, 309 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: we all knew that was going to happen. That is 310 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: the playbook. They can't fire you for you're elected by 311 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: the people of Texas, so unfortunately for them, you're in 312 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: your job for the time being. They can fire other 313 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: people who have said exactly the same thing. And you 314 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: saw it happen at Georgetown Law School. Elias Shapiro, he 315 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: is a libertarian lawyer. I believe you're friends with him. 316 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: I think you know Elias Ilia has been around a 317 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: long time. He's a very well known lawyer. He came 318 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: out and made almost the same sort of comment. He said, 319 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: this is bad. We shouldn't be choosing people based on 320 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: race and sex. We should just choose the best available candidate. 321 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: He has been placed on administrative leave. There are struggle 322 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: sessions going on in the law school at Georgetown right now. 323 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: There is a crying session hosted by the dean of 324 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: the law school. It looks like they're going to fire 325 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: Ilia at this point. What has happened to American law schools. 326 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: Let me just start by saying there should never be 327 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: a crying session at any university or any law school. 328 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: It reminds me of a league of their own. There's 329 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: no crying in baseball, and if you want to be 330 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: a lawyer, don't be crying. Like, if you disagree with 331 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: what Elias said, argue against it. Yeah. I know Elio well. 332 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: He's a very smart lawyer. He's a libertarian, he's been 333 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: with Cato forever. He's a scholar, he's well respected. I 334 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: don't know how Georgetown screwed up and hired him in 335 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the first place, because he's not a radical leftist, and 336 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: I thought they insisted you must be a radical leftist 337 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: to get hired, but they did. And actually it's it's 338 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: more ridiculous even than you described. So Ilia was arguing 339 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: that that Biden should nominate the most qualified left of 340 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: center judge, and he advocated someone in particularly advocated Sree 341 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: Strin of Assen. So Sreesan of Assen is the chief 342 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: judge of the DC Circuit. I know Sree. Srie and 343 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: I clerked together on the Fourth Circuit. He's very smart, 344 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 1: very talented Supreme Court litigator, was a Supreme Court clerk. 345 00:18:53,760 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Sree is an Indian American Liberal Democrat judge. And Elio argued, well, 346 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: he'd be a great choice for Biden to nominate. And 347 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: then Elia had a stupid phrase because he said he 348 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: shouldn't go with a lesser nominee, and he used the 349 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: word lesser. It was a badly phrase tweet, right, And 350 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: what happened is the left said, well, you're saying all 351 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: African American women are lesser, and it's like, well, no, 352 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: he didn't say that. He said he thought that Tree 353 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: was the most qualified nominee. Therefore every other nominee would 354 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: be a lesser nominee. But I'm sorry, that's that's logic 355 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: and reason and and and the woke mob. They're ready 356 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: to burn you to the ground that they don't want 357 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: to engage it is. It's it's amazing that that they 358 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: want to cancel you. And and look, I think Elia 359 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: may well be fired for it. They put him on 360 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: unpaid administrative leave. You know, what does it say that 361 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: our law schools don't believe in in anything resembling free speech, 362 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: That you can get fired for your job by arguing 363 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: for a liberal Democrat to be nominated to the Supreme Court, 364 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: which is what Ilia did. That the very idea of 365 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: considering people based on their qualifications is now anathema to 366 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: the left. It is a vicious I mean, cancel culture 367 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: is alive. And well, if they could cancel me, they would. 368 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: The only reason they can't is that I'm elected by 369 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: twenty nine million Texans. It and so that they and 370 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: you think of the interorum effect. It has not only 371 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: is Ilia potentially losing his job, but every other professor 372 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: that's terrified to open their mouth, every other person in 373 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: their job that the mob will come and say fire them. 374 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: It really is ridiculous. Well, I give the student radicals, 375 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: I give them a little bit of credit, actually a 376 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: credit at least for their honesty. I don't give them 377 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: credit for sobbing in front of their dean and demanding 378 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: people's heads on pikes. No, you can't say heads on pike. 379 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: Remember Steve Bannon a podcast said we want heads on pikes, 380 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: and they accused him of calling for murder for remember, 381 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: the nutty people are really nutty, So you can't use 382 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: that phrase anymore. You're right, only metaphorical pikes and figurative heads. 383 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: But what the student asked was, listen this guy, Elias Shapiro. 384 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: He's a lecturer at Georgetown Law and he's the director 385 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: of the Center for the Constitution. Seems like an unobjectionable 386 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: sort of place, but he advocates an originalist position on 387 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: interpreting the Constitution. And what the student asked was why 388 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: do we need this, Why do we need this center, 389 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: Why do we need this perspective? Why do we need 390 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: originalism to be taught at Georgetown Law? And I thought 391 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: it was actually a pretty good question, in that the 392 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: law school overwhelmingly is leftist. The law school does not 393 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: teach students generally speak, that originalism is a good or 394 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: valid interpretive principle. They're trying to churn out leftist, leftist lawyers, 395 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: and so why do they need it? Why does Georgetown, 396 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: a left wing law school, need to have these pesky 397 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: conservatives making all the students cry well, I mean, that's 398 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: the view of a lot of the left. And I'll 399 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: give you at least one reason. Let's assume you don't 400 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: care about an intellectual diversity. Let's assume you don't care 401 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: about learning anything other than the orthodoxy and propaganda that 402 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: you're being spoon fed. Presumably at least some of the 403 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: students at Georgetown Law want to practice law. They would 404 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: actually like to be practicing lawyers, and presumably that means 405 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: they'd like to go in a courtroom and argue to 406 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: judges that the judges should do what is in their 407 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: client's interest. I can tell you they're a heck of 408 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: a lot of judges and the district courts and the 409 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: courts of appeals in the US Supreme Court that believe, 410 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: I think quite rightly, that the text of the Constitution 411 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: and the text of the Statute is controlling, and that 412 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: you know that the regional understanding of that text has 413 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: at a minimum a major interpretive weight. You can disagree 414 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: on how much weight, and there are disagreements among judges. 415 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: But if you got a law school that is graduating 416 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: lawyers who don't know what originalism is, who don't know 417 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: how to argue on originalist basis, you're going to graduate 418 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: crappy lawyers. You're going to graduate lawyers who don't know 419 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: how to actually litigate in court. And part of the 420 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: problem is in some of these law schools they're okay 421 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: with this because you've got a bunch of deans and 422 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: professors and Ivory towers who don't actually engage in the 423 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: practice of law, and it's just all politics for him instead. Well, 424 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: that is a sort of silver lining. I hope that 425 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Eliot can keep his job. But if he can, and 426 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: if the cancel culture mob really claims all these originalist scalps, 427 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: at least the next generation of liberal lawyers will not 428 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: perform very well in front of conservative judges. And Michael, 429 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: I'll point out also, so the left's game, they say 430 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: at the outset, we're going to discriminate based on race. 431 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: In this case, we know Joe Biden is going to 432 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: nominate a black woman. We also know from the pattern 433 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: of Biden's nominees that the odds are overwhelming whoever he 434 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: nominates will be a radical left wing activist, because most 435 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: of the judicial nominees Biden's made this past year have 436 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: been radical left wing activist. But we also know the 437 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: next step in this game, they're going to say anyone 438 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: that opposes the radical left wing activist is a racist 439 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: and sexist who hates black women. That that's their gameplay. 440 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: And I mentioned, you know, when Joe Biden and the 441 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: other Democrats filibuster Janie Rogers Brown, she was a black woman, 442 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: but of course there they just didn't want a constitutionalist. 443 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: There's another example. The same time they filibuster Janie Rogers Brown, 444 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden also filibustered a guy named Miguelistrata. Miguelistrata, it's 445 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: a Hispanic, an amazing Supreme Court advocate. Supreme Court Clerk 446 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: George W. Bush nominated him to the DC Circuit. The 447 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: Democrats had a real tough problem because Miguel was unquestionably 448 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: qualified and there was nothing in his record that was disqualifying. 449 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: And actually one of the Democratic staffers for Ted Kennedy 450 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: wrote a memo to Ted Kennedy on the Judiciary Committee 451 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: along with Joe Biden. The Democratic staffer says we must 452 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: defeat Miguel Estrada, Why because he is Hispanic. I'm quoting there. 453 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: They say we must defeat him because he is Hispanic. 454 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: And it was widely anticipated if Miguel had been confirmed 455 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: to the DC Circuit that Bush would put him on 456 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, and he would be the first Hispanic 457 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: ever on the Supreme Court. And so not only our 458 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: Democrats willing to discriminate based on race when they're favoring 459 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: someone who meets their ideology, they are even more eager 460 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: to discriminate on race against someone who disagrees with their ideology. 461 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: And there was Joe Biden filibustering an Hispanic inly qualified nominee. 462 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: Now is it because I think he hates Hispanics? No, 463 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: he's a leftist who hates anyone who disagrees with his 464 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: orthodoxy and is willing to divide based on race. And 465 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: he believes in his heart, like most Democrats, that discriminating 466 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: based on race, if they think the cause is righteous 467 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: and just, is a good thing. And I think it 468 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: is a terrible thing in America to discriminate on race period. Well, 469 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: I hope Eliot Shapiro can make it through. They're trying 470 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: to cancel him. There is an even more prominent person 471 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: than a libertarian law professor who's got a cancel attempt 472 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: on him right now. That would be not a conservative, 473 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: not even really I think a libertarian. That would be 474 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: a left winger, a guy who supported Bernie Sanders, Joe Rogan, 475 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: who has been up in backed into a corner. Now 476 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: he's got some of the most powerful voices of the 477 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies coming after him. We're talking Neil Young, we're 478 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: talking Joan Mitchell, people who at one time actually were 479 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: somewhat relevant, and it looks like it looks like he's 480 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: actually sort of on the ropes. So I gotta say, Michael, 481 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: just at the outset, who knew you Neil Young was 482 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: still live? Who knew Joni Mitchell was still a lie? 483 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: You know? Graham Natch, Peter Frampton. I mean, we've got 484 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: every geriatric rocker who was playing when I was in 485 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: diapers and you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye. 486 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: That's when these guys had their heyday. And I gotta say, 487 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 1: I think it's funny as hell that a bunch of 488 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: seventy and eighty year old rock and roll stars from 489 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: prior eras got more pressed this week than they've had 490 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: in thirty years. And what they're saying is bizarre. They're saying, 491 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: we really don't like that that many people are listening 492 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: to Joe Rogan. And I think maybe they have a 493 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: plan here, which is nobody wants to listen to their songs. 494 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: So if they get big tech to ban the things 495 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: that they're actually listening to, maybe you'll have no more 496 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: choice but to listen to their songs because they'll be 497 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: the only things left. I mean, it really is Assinine, 498 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: Neil Young and Crosbie Stills and Nash went on a 499 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: free speech tour in two thousand and six that was 500 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: named of the Tour, and I think people are beginning 501 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: to wake up to this fact that maybe they weren't 502 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: so much in favor of free speech. Maybe they just 503 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: wanted to smash whatever standards existed of the day and 504 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: they wanted to just install their own standards. And now 505 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan is contradicting that. So they are the defenders 506 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: of the entrenched power. But the thing that's crazy to 507 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: me is, as you say, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, these 508 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: people have not been relevant in decades and yet they 509 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: do seem to be potentially getting Joe Rogan not to 510 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: back down, but to permit a disclaimer on his controversial 511 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: episodes to get more left wing guests on. I mean, 512 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: it does seem that they really are putting a lot 513 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: of pressure on them. Well, you raise a very good point. 514 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: I'd say two things in response. One, I hope Rogan 515 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: doesn't give in. I mean, look, he's got it's been 516 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: reported like one hundred million dollar contract with Spotify. One 517 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars is a lot of leverage. I mean, 518 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he has shown a lot of courage, a 519 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: lot of boldness. But but I have to assume Spotify 520 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: they haven't given in yet, but to the extent I 521 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: mean Spotify is kind of at the intersection of big 522 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: tech and Hollywood music. So you've got to assume everyone 523 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 1: in that world is arguing surrender, surrender, surrender, give in 524 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: to the woke mob. And and I do think it 525 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: will do real damage to free speech if Rogan knuckles under, 526 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 1: because what people will say is, if they could force 527 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: Rogan to comply, how does anyone else have a chance. 528 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: But you bring up the hundred million dollars, Senator, Let's 529 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: say you're Joe Rogan. And look, Joe Rogan seems like 530 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: a perfectly principled guy. Let's say he weren't. Let's say 531 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: he's totally unscrupulous and he's looking at that big paycheck. Sure, 532 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: it would be a big blow to the American free 533 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: speech tradition if he backs down. But what about numero uno? 534 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: What about Joe Rogan? What what incentive does he have 535 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: not to just give in here? Look, the only incentive 536 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: his integrity that his viewers listen to him because they 537 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: believe he's speaking from the heart and he's telling the truth. 538 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: And I got to say, you know, anytime you sell 539 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: out for cash and you're intimidated, when you give into 540 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: the mob, it does lessen your credibility. And I want 541 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: to give him a lot of props. He has shown 542 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: a ton of courage. I also think, you know, he 543 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: it really got his attention when CNN went after him 544 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: for Iver Mecton. He has become a fantastic defender of 545 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: free speech. I think that's really important. And one thing 546 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: that it's important I think for Rogan to understand everyone 547 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: else to understand, is when the mob comes after you, 548 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: it's not even about the topic you were out. So 549 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: we were talking a minute ago about Biden's Supreme Court nominee. 550 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: I sent a tweet today somewhat tongue in cheek, which 551 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: was simply Candice Owens for Supreme Court. Yeah. But you know, 552 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: if Biden said it must be a black woman, you 553 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: and I both know Candice. We like Candice. She is 554 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: both black and female. According to the left stated criterion, 555 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: she is an obvious choice. And it's funny like the 556 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: twitter verse and their media stories written about my tweet, 557 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: We're like, oh my god, Cruz thinks Candace. As far 558 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: as I know, I don't think Candice is a lawyer. 559 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: She isn't a lawyer. I don't know about it. I 560 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: am assuming if she has the qualifications to be a 561 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice, I am unaware of those. But and 562 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: she's a fantastic podcast host and thinker and provocateur illustrating 563 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: the idiocies of the left. But but what I've enjoyed 564 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: is since that tweet, watching leftist explain no, no, no, 565 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: not that black woman. You you can oppose people, and 566 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: we oppose her because she's conservative. We can hate on her. 567 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: We mean only leftist black women. It is. It's all ideology, 568 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: it's all politics. Racist part of the politics. But anyone 569 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: on the wrong side they go after. And so Rogan 570 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: may think, okay, well, if I all right, I've had 571 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: some some doctors on my show who are skeptical of 572 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: some of the things they're saying about COVID. Saul have 573 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: some people on the other side who say, believe whatever 574 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: Saint Fauci says, and maybe the mob will be satiated. 575 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: The mob will never be satiated. That is the nature 576 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: of the mob. And when when they see they can 577 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: bow you into submission, they'll come back again and again 578 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: and again. I think that's the fear. You know, Rogan 579 00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: is speaking two and four a wide variety of Americans. 580 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: It's not rock ribbed right wing Republicans, probably not very 581 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: many of them at all. I think it's ordinary people, 582 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: maybe some disaffected liberals, maybe some leftists. For goodness sakes, 583 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: he endorsed Bernie Sanders, so he's got he's got leftists 584 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: in there too, And he's speaking like the kind of 585 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: guy who is not ideologically rigid. And I think that's 586 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: part of why he's been able to amass such a 587 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: huge audience. And I agree, I think so far, He's 588 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: played this pretty smart. But this is a big fear. 589 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: Do not show them your neck, do not give in. 590 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: You will never I assume I'm not saying anything that 591 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: Joe doesn't already understand, But you will not win. The 592 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: moment that you start to appease them, you're dead. You're 593 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: going to be dead in the water. I guess figuratively 594 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: again too. I don't want hateful rhetoric in junior high. 595 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: If you give in to the bullies, they take your 596 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: lunch money tomorrow too, and the next day and the 597 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: next day. That principle was true then, and it's true now. 598 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: That's right. And you know, Rogan is actually important to 599 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: conservative sits on the future. But we've talked a lot 600 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: on this show about how when I was a kid 601 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: that the caricature of the GOP was that it was 602 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: rich uncle pennybag smoking a cigar, shilling for corporations, keeping 603 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: the working man down, and that that is not the 604 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: case anymore. You're seeing you're seeing it just in exit polling. 605 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: You're seeing it in the lawn signs and people's yards, 606 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: and you're seeing it in the behavior of Democrats who 607 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: are now very clearly the party of the global elite, 608 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: and Republicans have positioned themselves as the party of the 609 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: working man. My question is, why is it that Americans, 610 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: who have such a history of loving freedom and fighting back, 611 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: why is it that we are currently being outdone by 612 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: America's hat are polite, lovely neighbors to the north, the Canadians, 613 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: where Canadian truckers by the thousands are showing up to 614 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: the nation's capital and protesting these draconian vaccine mandates. What's 615 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: going on with the Americans? It is absolutely awesome. God 616 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: bless the Canadian truckers. And I will say, look, look, 617 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: I love the we were just talking about Joe Rogan. 618 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: I love big bald, angry, working class people who were 619 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: pissed off and fighting back. That that is that is awesome. Yeah, 620 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: the Canadian truckers, those convoys are spectacular. Watching Justin Crudeau 621 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: Trudeau runaway. I had fun tweeting out someone did a 622 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: mashup of Simpson's videos where there was an old Simpsons 623 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: episode that had Homer driving a truck and he gets 624 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: in a convoy and then they cut to Trudeau as 625 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: Prime Minister of Canada, crawling out the window to run away, 626 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: and you know, it actually says something that there were 627 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of fact checkers today who fact checked that 628 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: Simpson's mashup said, it's actually not factually correct that the 629 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: Simpsons predicted the Canadian truckers, because these were two different 630 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: episodes that someone put together. And I'm just like, all right, 631 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: you guys are nim wits and idiots, and the Canadian 632 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: truckers look, they're standing up for freedom. And you know, 633 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: a year ago, we listen to people pontificate online very 634 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: solemnly the truck drivers are heroes in America. We also 635 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: listened to them to say doctors and nurses and police 636 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: officers and firefighters, they're heroes for America. All these people 637 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: are being persecuted right now. Right the totalitarian left wants 638 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: to fire those truck drivers. They want to fire doctors 639 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: and nurses and cops and firefighters and soldiers and sailors 640 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: and Navy seals. Why because they won't knuckle under their 641 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 1: COVID mandates and vaccine mandates. They won't obey their totalitarian dictates. 642 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: And I got to say, those Canadian truckers are awesome, 643 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: and they're fighting for American freedom in a way we 644 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: all should be doing and we could we could take 645 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: a lesson from you. If there is an irony that 646 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: the left, for over a hundred years said, workers of 647 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: the world, you night. And now the workers of the 648 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: world have united, and their leaders like Justin Trudeau, are 649 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: running as far as they possibly can. There's a Trudeau 650 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: shaped hole in the wall where where he once was 651 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to face the crowd. So I 652 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: will say the Canadian truckers when they drove their convoyant 653 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: and they protested, they did it very politely. And and 654 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: and having having been born in Calgary, I will say 655 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: the Canucks, God bless them, are wonderfully polite. But you know, 656 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: in this instance they are warriors for freedom and their 657 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 1: message is being heard not just throughout Canada, but throughout 658 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: America across the world hopefully. So this raises an important question. 659 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: We're running a little late, and so we're not going 660 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: to get into a ton of mail bag, but I 661 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: do want to get into one mail bag question that 662 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: came up from Eudaemonia. It was this the pseudonym of 663 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: the good old ancient Greek references here in our mail bag, 664 00:37:52,400 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: very educated audience. He asked, what concrete policies are the 665 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: is the GOP going to put forward to now that 666 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: the GOP is positioning itself as the worker's party. So 667 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: is it simply that the GOP is saying the doors open, 668 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: You're welcome to come in, but we're not going to 669 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: change anything about the way that we look at economic issues, 670 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: social issues. We're not we're not actually going to change 671 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: the policy. We just want you to vote for us. 672 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: Or is there going to be some kind of substantive 673 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: shift in what the goops actually offering. So I think 674 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: we've seen pretty significant shifts, and I think Trump played 675 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: a big part in that. Number One, We're the party 676 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: of jobs. You want a job, you ought to be 677 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: a Republican. We're the party of small businesses. We're the 678 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: party of the energy. Joe Biden. The Democrats hate energy, 679 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: they hate oil, they hate gas, they hate coal. They're 680 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: destroying jobs across the country. They're shutting down pipelines, they're 681 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: they're putting people out of work. Where the party of 682 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: keeping small businesses open? You look at Biden the Democrats. 683 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: They're happy to shut down a restaurant, a bar, They're 684 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: happy to shut down anyone who won't comply with their mandates. 685 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: We're the party of opportunity, but Democrats are shutting down rules. 686 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: We're keeping schools open. We want to give you a 687 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: school choice. We want to give you opportunity. Immigration is 688 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: critical to this. Democrats are the party of open borders. 689 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: When you have millions of people coming illegally into this country, 690 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: they're driving down wages, They're hurting working men and women. 691 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: You want you want to help protect jobs, You stop 692 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: illegal immigration. And I think every single policy the Democrats embrace. 693 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: Ask yourself what San Francisco and Manhattan billionaires want, that's 694 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: what Democrats support, one hundred percent, straight down the board. 695 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: And ask yourself every policy that Ohio steel workers or 696 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: Texas truck drivers support. Those are the policies that Republicans 697 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: I think ought to be supported, including by the way, 698 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 1: protecting free speech and religious liberty in the Second Amendment. 699 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: Democrats want to take away the guns of working men 700 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: and women across this country. It is a radically anti 701 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: worker agenda. And I will say one of the things 702 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,479 Speaker 1: I think Republicans have gotten better at, but there's still 703 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: too much of, is corporate chronyism giving into big business. 704 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: Look when it comes to big business, big business has 705 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: gone woke. For too long, Republicans behave that whatever big 706 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: business wanted they listened to. I think Trump helped break that. 707 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: I think we have shifted. You know, the giant companies 708 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 1: are fine. I don't have anything against them, but they 709 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: don't need any favors from me. They don't need any 710 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: favors from government, they don't need any subsidies, they don't 711 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: need any mandates to benefit them. We ought to be 712 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 1: the party of the little guy, of the small business, 713 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 1: owner of the worker, and Democrats are the party of 714 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: taking away your job. And I think that's playing out 715 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: in a very very real way now. I do because 716 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: some of those things the GOP has talked about for 717 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: a long time, but especially when you're talking about the 718 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: big corporations, that would be a shift. When I was 719 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,919 Speaker 1: a kid, the GOP was the party of helping out 720 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 1: every gigantic corporation. They would assist them in shipping jobs 721 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: overseas and getting sweetheart deals from the government. Corporate welfare, 722 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 1: of total corporate welfare. And that is a big shift. 723 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 1: And it does tie into the small businesses too, because 724 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: if the GOP is going to be the party of 725 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: the big woke, multinational corporations then sort of by definition 726 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: they're not the party of the small businesses. So that 727 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: shift is very important, as you say, keeping jobs here, 728 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 1: and Democrats are the party of corporate welfare today, they 729 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: embrace it openly. Yeah, that's very important. And as you 730 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: say to this idea that when you have two million 731 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: illegal aliens pouring across the border, that's going to depress wages. 732 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: And it's not going to depress Mark Zuckerberg's wages or 733 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: I guess Mark Zuckerberg's capital gains. I don't think he 734 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: makes most of his money from his salary. It's going 735 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: to depress wages for working class Americans. And so that 736 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: that's a big shift. If the Democrats are going to 737 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: be the party of more and more and more and 738 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: more immigration, then the Republicans really can offer something different 739 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: there as well. That was a good answer. That really 740 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: all right, That makes me hopeful for the future center 741 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: even as we're all getting canceled, even as we're going 742 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: to get radical leftist judges all over the courts, there 743 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 1: does seem to be some hope looking ahead to twenty 744 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: twenty two. In twenty twenty four, well, we've got to 745 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: leave it there. You know. One thing you can do 746 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: to really express your enthusiasm, not merely for the upcoming elections, 747 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: but for this very show, is to go get some merch. Everybody. 748 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: We've got superb emerged. 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