WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Officiating Is Hard, Bob Harig 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:08.039 Sports Radio. This is the final hour on this Tuesday, 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:10.520 Dan and the Dance Dan Patrick Show will head to 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.280 Saint Andrews. Coming up here in a moment. Tiger a 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.239 couple hours ago spoke to the media gave his thoughts 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.760 on the live tour. Have that for you coming up. Also, 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.920 ranking the NFL's top ten quarterbacks for twenty twenty two. Executives, coaches, 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.160 players make their picks for the best quarterbacks. This according 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:31.880 to Jeremy Fowler of ESPN. We'll have that for you 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.159 coming up here in a moment. Got a couple of 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.720 poll questions today. We'll get updates on that. 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Just put your email address in the box 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.600 that slides out in the bottom right corner, and Mario 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.560 and Rob will make sure that you get the newsletter 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.760 every single day. All right, Seaton, update the poll results. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:28.720 Then we'll do the top ten quarterbacks for twenty twenty two. Well, Dann, 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.520 we about a half hour ago we put up a 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.560 third poll question on Twitter. Why would someone want to 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.600 be an umpire referee? Right now, fifty one percent of 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.679 the audience have absolutely no idea. Well, you know what, 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.200 let me try Jeff and Buffalo on that topic he's 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.520 been holding. Jeff, can you illuminate us on why somebody 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:51.080 would want to be an official? Good morning, good Segway, 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:57.160 not bad, Good morning everyone. I'd be my career as 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:01.640 a player more from a top college player to an 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:06.800 official when I started coaching. And just as Richard Jefferson 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.480 is doing what he's doing, he's a great all around player. 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.359 I liked being able to know. I wanted to be 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.280 able to know the game, and I know I didn't 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.560 know the game, So I got involved in officiating because 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.519 I know as a coach, I needed to know more 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.600 about what I was what I was seeing. What's the 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:36.120 topest part about of officiating? UM From from the official standpoint, 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.800 I think it's the same challenge as a player. I 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:45.040 played against college players, Olympians, pool ball players. That challenge. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:49.839 It's not it's not hard, it's fun. It's you want 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.200 to be challenged. And at the time when I was 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:56.080 officially starting officiating, I was still a top player. I 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:00.639 went from a top college player to a low level 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.280 club player. But I love the challenge. So when I do, 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.440 I've done high school, I've done college, I've a great school. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.320 The challenge is the fun part of the game, connecting 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.919 with the players. A quick story, I'll try to keep 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:19.560 it under thirty seconds. I get a regional tournament sixteen 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.280 and under and one of my crew made a bad 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.920 call and I, as the first officials, had to correct 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.600 that call. Now, the player on one of the teams 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.720 was incensed that I had to correct a call that 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.680 went against them and would have given them a point. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.320 And I've called him over told him, look, this is 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.560 all I can do. I have to replay the point. 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.320 It was volleyball, by the way, and that's all I 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.920 can do. You're a good player, you're their top player. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.520 You need to keep your head. They went on to 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.560 win that game. He settled down, and what I always 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.360 remember is his parents came over afterwards and said, thank 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.000 you for doing that for our son. Yeah, you know, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.480 and thank you John for sharing that. It's a tough 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.920 job that you know, going to work every day, you're 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.480 gonna get yelled at, or we like to call that 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.120 just being fritzy. Yes, yes, boy. I think the toughest 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:09.760 part about being let's say it was an NBA ref 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.920 or a basketball reff is not saying you're sorry when 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.600 you make a call, because I don't think you could 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.800 do that. Like six or seven times a night, you 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:19.719 make a foul call and you're like, man, I don't 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:20.760 know if I got that one or not. You have 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.200 to stick by it. You can't go, hey, man, I'm 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.280 sorry about that. And you want to say when you 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.880 make a mistake, it's natural to say sorry, but you can't. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.320 I don't think you could do that as an official 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.320 during the flow of a game. It feels like if 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:36.720 you're an umpire, you can say to the catcher, all right, 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.480 you know what I might have missed that one. I 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:45.080 don't know how often that happens, but you know, because 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.120 then the catcher find the catcher, I go back to 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.560 the manager and say, yeah, he admitted that he made 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:53.680 a mistake. And then that manager might be you're making mistakes, 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:57.000 You're admitting you're making you know that. It's not that 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:01.840 that it just feels like you go there. Nobody remembers 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.880 you if you actually do your job well. They only 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.640 remember you when you screw up all right. Ranking the 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:12.160 NFL's top ten quarterbacks. This according to Jeremy Fowler, voters 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:18.240 gave their best ten players at the quarterbacking position. So 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:24.240 you had league executives who did this, so coaches, scouts, players, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:32.560 and the candidates were. Their ranking considered consisted of interviews, research, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.680 film study. In total, more than fifty voters submitted a 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:40.360 ballot on the quarterbacking position. They did it for all 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:44.000 the positions. But this is what people care about. Your 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:49.640 top ten quarterbacks. Number one on the list is Aaron Rodgers. 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.480 Last year he was number two. So Rodgers is number one, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.400 Then Patrick Mahomes is number two, Josh Allen is three, 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:02.320 Tom Brady is four. Last year his ranking was three 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:07.159 Joe Burrow was honorable mentioned last year. Now he's five. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:14.719 Matthew Stafford last year was ranked sixth, This year ranked sixth, 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:20.520 So winning the Super Bowl didn't really change anything. He 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:25.599 was ranked sixth. Justin Herbert last year ranked ninth, Now 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:30.080 he's seventh. Russell Wilson Junior, the third was fourth last year, 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.160 Now he's eighth. Deshaun Watson last year was not ranked. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:40.680 Now he's ninth and number ten on that list. Dak Prescott, 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:48.239 all right, let me ask you this because Aaron Rodgers 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:52.040 is always, it feels like, described as the most talented 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:57.640 player to ever play the position. We say that a 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:01.880 lot about Kyrie Irving anas he might be the most 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:08.640 talented ball handler ever not winning because he's won a championship, 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:14.520 and Aaron Rodgers has won a championship. So sometimes when 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:18.880 you're Tom Brady's never the most talented. But he's the 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.120 best quarterback of all time. Nobody's ever said, you know, 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.600 Tom is the best, he's the most talented quarterback. Now 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.800 he's the best quarterback. He's not the most talented. If 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:32.240 I said you had one quarterback this year to win, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:40.880 who would it be? Yeah, a playoff game, the entire season. Now, 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.160 if we got to the playoffs and that you know that, 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.360 think that's a foregun conclusion. You still want you know, 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.280 you know hashtag Tommy Yes seven, This might be the 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.080 ghost of somebody here, But doesn't it depend on who's 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:59.040 around them in the system that they're in system? You 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.480 love that, don't you? Glad? Now you know what it is. 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.720 It's like Matthew Stafford all of a sudden is like 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.120 the fifth best quarterback in the league when he has 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.160 a bunch of great weapons around him. That's amazing how 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.800 that happened. No, but he was sixth last year and 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.840 he's sixth this year, So he was six before they 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:16.880 even won a Super Bowl? Yeah, but where was he 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.040 before he went to Los Angeles? At he's probably a 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:23.600 top ten quarterback, I'm guess. Yeah, talented like he was, 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.800 he'd fit into that. Man, he's one of the more 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:32.240 talented quarterbacks. He just didn't win anything. But it's it's 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.480 kind of you know, Tom Brady has never described that way. Man, 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.199 is he talented? It's just you got one game to win. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.560 You want, Brady's your quarterback. But if I said you 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:47.319 got this quarterback the entire season, are you Todd, I'll 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.480 ask you who are you taking? You got one quarterback 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.839 the entire season, who are you taking. I'm gonna take 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:57.079 Patrick Malomes all right, Seaton, probably take Aaron Rodgers all right. Mark, 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:03.880 I'm gonna take Mahomes Plie. Josh Allen, Yeah, I probably 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:08.840 do Josh Allen. I think Josh Allen can do more 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.160 with less. You know, Mahomes has had a lot of talent, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:22.040 and he's he's extremely talented. But I probably I don't 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.680 know if there's a wrong answer in the top five. Yeah, Marv, 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.240 I want to change my answer completely Jimmy g because 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.000 all he does his way. Oh, let's go. Let's go, 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:35.960 all right, not necessarily like a Super Bowl. You overthrew. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:44.000 I mean he overthrewp uh. Lamar Jackson. Here's the news 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:45.600 I was trying to get at. It took me a 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.080 long wind up there. Lamar Jackson's not in the top ten. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:54.360 Talk about doing more with less? It's Lamar Jackson. Does 0:09:54.400 --> 0:10:00.160 any quarterback have less weapons than Lamar Jackson of the 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:06.120 top ten, You know, Josh Allen has Stephan Diggs. Now, 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:11.199 Lamar has Mark Andrews, very good tight end, but not 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:16.640 much else there. They just traded away Hollywood. You know 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.440 they had all their running backs injured. If you're the 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.080 if you're the Ravens, are you happy that he's not 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.920 ranked in the top ten because you still haven't paid 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.640 him yet? Is that where you go, you're not even 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:32.040 a top ten quarterback, We're gonna give you sixteen million 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:38.679 dollars a year. I'm trying to think out of that list, 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.040 who who? You know, Brady's got Mike Evans, who could 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.320 end up in the Hall of Fame. Godwin is very good, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:51.880 he had Gronk, Rogers has two good running backs, a 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.920 good offensive line. Now he lost to Vante Adams, but 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.559 I get the feeling Rogers is gonna make somebody a 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:09.240 start this year. Mahomes loses Tyree Hilly still got Kelsey. Yeah. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.840 You start to think of the weapons, and it's hard 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.880 to be a great quarterback if you don't have these weapons. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.960 And Lamar Jackson certainly proved that last year. Yeah. So 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.640 this this poll has a bunch of scouts and you 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.280 know gms and and they also had the lowest ranking 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.000 any person who filled out a ballot has him. Someone 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.839 had Aaron Rodgers is the fifth ranked quarterback in the league. 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.719 That's a tough case to make out of the top 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.120 three is a tough case. Someone had mahomes is fifth, right, 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.160 someone had Josh Allen ranks seventh in their quarterback ranks. 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.280 I want to know the first six of these people. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.840 That's really out of whack. But also it's like when 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.520 you fill out a Heisman ballot. How I view it 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.920 is different than how you view it, Like, what are 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:55.480 we basing this on? You know, the best quarterback? You know, 0:11:55.640 --> 0:12:03.720 intangibles winning, So I think understanding criteria. You know, you 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.760 have to have context with this, and I think that 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.080 that's sometimes where it gets a little loose in the 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.760 interpretation of here's the top ten quarterbacks. Yampo. Joe Burrows 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.120 ranked five, and some of the context for him was 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.400 he did this while having a subpart offensive line and 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.079 getting beat up and coming off a knee injury. It 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.880 was like a bunch of stuff was stacked against Yeah, 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:24.840 I got Jamar Chase and the offense is way better, 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.199 but he made it that way. The offensive line did not, 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.920 Like you got a little better in the playoffs. Well, 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.240 this is the interesting year for Joe Burrow because they 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.559 did go out and strengthened the offensive line. Now you 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.000 got the Super Bowl loss. Now you want to prove 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.760 that it wasn't a fluke. And that's what I'm curious 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:45.559 with Joe Burrow Justin Herbert. You know, sometimes you take 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.520 the rapper off and you go, wow, we got a 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.600 shiny new toy. Then after a while you're going, we 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.000 got to do something in the playoffs here with our 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.240 shiny new toy. You know, it's like Mahomes. You know, 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:01.120 it's a dynasty of one championship so far. I'm supposed 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.840 to be like, oh my god, they're gonna win championships. Okay, 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.240 Now you know, the AFC West might be the most 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.560 competitive division right now in football. Yeampo. Justin Herbert's got 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.319 a lot of the first two year records because Peyton 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.199 Manning's first year he led the league in interceptions. Guys 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.719 like Rogers and Far they didn't play much their first year. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.640 There's even Peyton Manning had a lot of picks. But 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.120 Justin Herbert in his first two seasons has ninety four 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.320 hundred yards, seventy touchdowns, and twenty five picks. Those are 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.160 all record numbers except for the picks. Todd has his 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:34.800 sports center Tis that he's been sitting on and do 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.800 you want to get up and take off your seat? Okay, 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:43.520 here's here's Todd. Are you okay to do it now? Absolutely? 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Scottie Scheffler's in there, justin Thomas, Jordan Spieth, 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:22.760 Tiger longshot, Dustin Johnson, not as much Phil Mickelson right now, 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:28.640 according to DraftKings plus thirty thousand to win the Open Championship. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.880 Let's bringing Bob Harrigan. He's there at the Open Championship. 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:36.320 Sports Illustrated golf writer and author of the book Tiger 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:41.880 and Phil Golf's Most Fascinating Rivalry, released in April. How 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.320 would you describe the scene this morning when Tiger took 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.800 the microphone in front of the media. Hey, Dan, Yeah, Well, 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.400 it's always an interesting scene. People are keen to hear 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:55.880 what Tiger has to say, and we see him so 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.440 little these days, given the injuries that he suffered in 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.920 a small amount of golf that he's playing, So there 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:03.760 was a lot to get to. I think we wanted 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.479 to know about his health and why he's able to 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.080 have been practiced so much here this week. And obviously 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:11.560 there's a lot of other issues in the game that 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.720 he touched on quite a bit, I think, a lot 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:17.639 more than than we anticipated. How many of these interviews 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.040 happened without the question of the live tour coming up 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:27.800 almost zero now, especially among the prompt especially among the 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.920 prominent players. It's just been such a um, you know, 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.240 a big topic in the game. It's it's it's been 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.360 disruptive to the game. Uh, We've got so many name 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:44.919 players that have gone and and there's a bunch of 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.800 them here obviously playing in the Open this week that 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.240 are eligible and and and it's caused some awkwardness frankly, 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.080 you know, there's you know, Tiger was pretty strong about 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:59.160 it today. There's some guys who are very upset that 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.879 these players have made this decision, and and you know, 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:04.879 we really don't quite know where this is all going 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:10.480 to go. Greg Norman was not invited. He's won the 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.560 Open Championship twice. No matter what you think of the 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.640 Live Tour, was it fair to not invite a former champion. 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.240 To me, no, I think they made it worse by 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.360 doing that. They called more attention to it. They put 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.919 out a statement on Saturday which caused us all to 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.320 write about it. M Norman knew for at least a 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.600 week that he hadn't that he hadn't been invited, and 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.600 I don't think he was out there making a big 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.920 deal out of it. And had Greg been here this week, 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.359 he would have probably taken part in that Champions event 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.360 on Monday that Tiger was in, Lee Trevino, a lot 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.040 of the past champions. I don't think Greg was going 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.520 to go out of his way to be disruptive or 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.720 or or do anything that was going to distract from 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.560 the Open. He did win it twice. He could have 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.640 attended the Champions dinner tonight had he so chosen. Now, 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:09.040 I mean, in their defense, Norman did piss did take 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.439 a chance, pass on a chance in two thousand and 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:17.639 fifteen to play his final Open here at St. Andrews. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:22.240 He was sixty then sixties the age limit and shows 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.320 not to and shows not to take part in the 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.080 Champions event. So you know, maybe some of it stems 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.680 from that too, But you know, they could have invited 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.080 him and let it be his decision. How does it 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.520 work when they pick? Do they pick who they're going 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:38.959 to put in front of the media. Therefore, if they 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.560 don't want to give Bryson de Shambo or Dustin Johnson 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:48.080 or Patrick Reid the opportunity to be on stage, is 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:49.919 it done that way that it's you know, we're going 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.280 to pick the top players, and they decided not to 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.800 include the LIB Tour. Yeah, I mean pretty much. I 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.080 mean there's there's a there's a pretty obvious list of 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.439 guys that we'd like to get in here. You know. 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:07.720 Obviously the defending champion, Morikawa Scheffler won the Masters, Justin 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.400 Thomas won the PGA, Matt Fitzpatrick won the US Open. 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.920 You'd like to have them, You'd maybe like to have 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:18.000 some past champions of the Open. Dustin Johnson would have qualified, 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.120 Phil Nicholson would have qualified, certainly. I mean last year 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.920 Phil Nicholson won the PGA Championship, you know, and he's 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.919 almost not been discussed this week. Yeah, I think it was. 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:30.760 I don't think it was a coincidence that none of 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.280 the live guys were invited in. I mean, Louis ust Hazen, 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.000 who won the Open here in two thousand and ten, 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.679 and we're also in a playoff here in two thousand 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.359 and fifteen, So the last two opens here, he was 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:45.280 very much part of the story. Was second at two 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:48.639 majors last year and third at another. He might be 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.720 a guy we'd want to talk to, but he's part 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.160 of the Live tour and they chose not to bring 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:57.280 him in. As Phil been around, I mean, is he 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.560 being Phil Nicholson thumbs up and all of that. Yeah, 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.720 Phil's been out there practicing, um, you know, but but 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.919 stand very much in the background, you know. Uh, he 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:13.720 elected not to be part of that Champions event on Monday, 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:17.440 and it's my understanding he's not going to the Champions 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:21.239 dinner tonight. Um. That kind of tells you where we are, 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.960 I think. I mean, before all this, Phil is a 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.760 beloved figure in the game, you know, thirty year history, 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.880 and now he's sort of, you know, taking himself out 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:33.320 of these things, and he's obviously got a lot of criticism. Um, 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.520 it's just a strange place we find ourselves in and 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:39.720 golf right now, how do things play out this week? Bob, 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:43.080 good question. I think a lot of it depends on 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.000 the weather. You know, the old course Saint Andrew's is 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.919 lots of fears that it just has not withstood the 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:53.200 test of time or that it won't. And it's so 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:58.000 weather dependent. Not had any rain. It's very firm, very dry. 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.800 It's been windy. If it can he ues to be windy, 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.720 then I think it's really interesting because you know, a 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.359 guy like Shuffler never played here before this week, Justin 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.760 Thomas has never played in the Open here. Matt Fitzpatrick 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:14.840 says the course doesn't really suit him, you know it does. 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.600 It just brings in so much doubt when you don't 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:19.520 know how far the ball is going to run on 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:23.080 hard greens and hard ground and when the wind blows. 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.199 If it's calm, Tony Finale said, I can hit a 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.800 wedge to every part four. I'm not sure we really 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:31.480 want that. So it's gonna be really interesting to see 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:33.719 how the weather plays out. And you know, I think 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.640 a lot of guys have a great chance this week. 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.640 You know Rory's guy you mentioned earlier. I think we're 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.439 all looking to see how he might fare. I was 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:46.560 telling the audience that the seventeenth tea box and you 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.400 know you got a hotel in front of you, right, 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:51.959 you know, I've had trees in front of me, and 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.080 you know I've had you know, water in front of me. 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.040 Not many times you have a hotel in front of you. 0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:58.480 And I know that that it doesn't affect the pros. 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.280 But if you're an amateur and you're on that T box, Uh, 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.320 what were your thoughts the first time you played it 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.359 and you try to hit it over the corner of 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:11.080 that hotel? You know if you designed a hole like 0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:14.320 that today, you'd be vilified. I mean, it just wouldn't 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.880 It just wouldn't happen. I mean you'd get you'd get 0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:19.960 scorched for for even suggesting it. And and you know 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:22.840 you say it doesn't infect the pros. I was watching 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.320 the practice round on Sunday with Tiger and JT and 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:29.240 Justin Thomas hid it into the hotel. He in fact, 0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:31.840 when he when he when he hit the t shot, 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:36.000 he screamed out, hit a window. He was mad at himself, obviously, 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.440 and it landed like in a like in a little 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:42.240 patio area of the hotel. So it's, oh, it's in play. 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.159