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Speaker 1: I am Russ Salzburg along with my partner Paul Detino

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Speaker 1: Pierson Butler at the controls and you there and your

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Speaker 1: number two call as always remains to zero one, UM nine.

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Speaker 1: I almost gave my home number again, cell phone number

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Speaker 1: again two oh one nine three nine four five we

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Speaker 1: nine three nine four or five one three they can

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Speaker 1: talk to me. I can't tell you how many times

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Speaker 1: I want. I'm trying to put that number out on

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Speaker 1: Twitter sometimes I'm oh, I gotta correct that that's my

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Speaker 1: home number. My wife would absolutely some people have actually

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Speaker 1: done that. Yes, yes, it doesn't go well. But speaking

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Speaker 1: of unfortunately not going well, uh, full disclosure, folks. As

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Speaker 1: we do for every Giants home game, Paul and I

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Speaker 1: sit next to one another, um, you know for the

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Speaker 1: of us over with a feather because not that they lost.

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Speaker 1: I was just dumbfounded the way the game started. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I was there as Paul was there or a week.

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Speaker 1: I'll let Paul speak for himself. Uh, everybody was in

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Speaker 1: a good frame of mind. They were confident. Uh they

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Speaker 1: after each day have practiced, they liked the practice. It

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Speaker 1: was all good. And they just uh laid an egg

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Speaker 1: in that first quarter and never recovered. It's very surprising

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Speaker 1: to me that they would have come out so slow

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Speaker 1: at home against the beatable opponent, one that was banged

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Speaker 1: up and hurt Giants getting healthier, Markley and ingram In

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Speaker 1: particularly coming back to me, Um, it was the head scratcher.

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Speaker 1: I can't in a billion years explain why their first

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Speaker 1: quarter was was fast asleep. I just I don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: It's done. Uh, they're now two and five. They've screwed

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Speaker 1: up the two and two second quarter of the season

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Speaker 1: that I would was projecting for them, and now they've

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Speaker 1: got to go out and face Alliance team on the road,

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Speaker 1: which has a very dangerous quarterback in Matt Stafford. By

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Speaker 1: the way, he is multiple steps up from Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: Let's not kid ourselves. Matt Stafford can really gun it

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Speaker 1: without questions, and and they've got themselves now a big

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Speaker 1: headache going to Detroit. Well, you know, in addressing what

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Speaker 1: to think about it, and you've got a chance to

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Speaker 1: look at you know what happened. Uh. I think the

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Speaker 1: first drive, the first drive of the Cardinals was seven

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Speaker 1: you do that, uh, you know, defense obviously had a

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Speaker 1: bad day. They got carved up a bit by the

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Speaker 1: running game. And you know, you do that and then

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Speaker 1: your offense, you know, they take a score a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: then your offense comes on and if your offense doesn't

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Speaker 1: do anything, it's like three and out and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, there goes your four, your first quarter and

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Speaker 1: it was but you know what, nobody feels sorry for you.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta go out and you've gotta regroup. I

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Speaker 1: mean in that locker room after the game, I mean,

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Speaker 1: those guys were p od I mean they were flat

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Speaker 1: out angry. They were angry at themselves. They weren't masking

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Speaker 1: weren't just upset about losing because nobody likes to lose.

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Speaker 1: They were they were angry at themselves. They was not

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Speaker 1: Where you are better than that, can't happen. Guys on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Guys on defense were saying that's unacceptable. You know,

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Speaker 1: a good one. Well, bottom line. Uh, they need to

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Speaker 1: the lines. So they gotta move on. We gotta move on.

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Speaker 1: I hope the fans have something that they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: labeled to see in a positive way when the Giants

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Speaker 1: get out to Detroit. Yeah, I let's talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about the quarterback being Daniel Jones. Uh, listen, everybody's

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Speaker 1: They were going to be growing pains. This is part

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Speaker 1: not any way, shape or form. No. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: it's been a mixed bag over the last several weeks.

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Speaker 1: But a rookie quarterback is a rookie quarterback for a reason. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he's a rookie because he's going to make a bunch

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Speaker 1: of rookie mistakes, and Isai can continue to tell people

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Speaker 1: be a slew of rookie mistakes. The question is how

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Speaker 1: fatal will they be in terms of your overall one

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Speaker 1: loss record. How many times will those mistakes cost you?

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Speaker 1: How many times will you opponent take advantage of those mistakes?

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Speaker 1: That ultimately is how the one loss record is going

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Speaker 1: to be impacted. The mistakes are going to be there,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes your team is good enough that those will

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Speaker 1: not impact you're one loss record. The giants are not there.

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Speaker 1: They're not good enough to afford rookie mistakes that can

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Speaker 1: impact the record. They're just not well. But that that's

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Speaker 1: and I'll still maintain it this season is to be

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Speaker 1: measured on progress, not to be measured on w's. And

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Speaker 1: believe me, I wanted a W last week, just like

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Speaker 1: I wanted a W the week before, in the W

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Speaker 1: And we were talking the other day, you and I

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Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones is also going through something that Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning in his rookie season. Yes, there are mistakes made

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Speaker 1: the interception or the fumbles, clearly he's got to hold

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Speaker 1: there were some drop passes. There are yeah, drop passes,

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Speaker 1: and that there there was some critical moments where the

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Speaker 1: do it. Well again, they're in lines, you know. With

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Speaker 1: any um people on Twitter who let me take ahead? Um,

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Speaker 1: one thing that the Giants did earlier this morning, they

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Speaker 1: got rid of tight end Garrett Dickerson. He was released

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Speaker 1: and um they brought up Davante Davis uh from the

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Speaker 1: practice squad. Now you know, I'm not going to pretend

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Speaker 1: to know exactly what that deal is all about Davante Downs.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I know that Downs coming out of California

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Speaker 1: coverage units in particular on kickoffs and punts have been terrific,

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Speaker 1: hit the upright. But the coverage teams, led by Michael Thomas,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just he felt the entire play was unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: big believer in everybody's got to be held accountable, and

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Speaker 1: they just came out with a stinkero of a performance.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was not a good performance, and I

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Speaker 1: think they would all tell you that. But what are

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Speaker 1: He well, Scott, I'm sorry man, when when you're when

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Speaker 1: of the rebuild you're talking about. Listen, you came in

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Speaker 1: last year. Uh, he drafted, as you just said, a

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Speaker 1: superstar running back. He drafted, you know, a terrific linebacker

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Speaker 1: in Lorenzo Qrta. He drafted b J. Hill. Who else? Um, well,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about Dexter Lawrence, I mean Dexter Lawrence Man

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Speaker 1: and Slayton. I mean, there's a lot of young players here,

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Speaker 1: a lot of young He's bringing in these people. It's

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Speaker 1: all part of It's not it's not rebuilding. The rebuilding.

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Speaker 1: It's part of the plan. But you aren't going to

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Speaker 1: rebuild it in in season one. You might have liked

433
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Speaker 1: to think about that or dream about it. What that's

434
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Speaker 1: not realistic? Okay, well, well, I guess my point is,

435
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Speaker 1: are two or three of the guys that you just mentioned.

436
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, we expected more from Carter this

437
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: year we're not getting. We expected more from b J. Hill.

438
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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys going to emerge to be players.

439
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Speaker 1: You know, we don't know. I'm just saying that this

440
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Speaker 1: these are the kinds of players we need. I mean,

441
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: I don't want to say Cards regrets nowhere near what

442
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Speaker 1: we thought he was gonna be this year. And also

443
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Speaker 1: with b J Hill, Um, you know, some of these

444
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Speaker 1: guys are going to emerge with her where they are

445
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Speaker 1: on the verge of being star players who can carry

446
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Speaker 1: us forward. We need more. You're not gonna know that

447
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Speaker 1: for sure until the third year. Their only second year players. Yeah,

448
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're not. You know, You're You're right to

449
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Speaker 1: say I still need to see it. That's fair, That's

450
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Speaker 1: absolutely fair. But you're looking at a roster that's got

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the last check was, but it's

452
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Speaker 1: like two dozen guys who are two years or less

453
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Speaker 1: in the league. So it's a young team. I mean,

454
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Speaker 1: there's no no question about. They need one more shopping

455
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: spree in the off season, okay, to get five or

456
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Speaker 1: six more core players, and then next year, according to

457
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Speaker 1: phase three of the plan, they should be a bona

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Speaker 1: fide solid playoff team. Well, I hope you I hope

459
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: you're right about that, and I'm I'm frankly hoping for

460
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Speaker 1: next year, Paul, that some of these guys the rest

461
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Speaker 1: of this season and into next season, by the by

462
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Speaker 1: the last half of next season, that we're really starting

463
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Speaker 1: to push this where we're winning four or five games

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00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: in a row, when we're pushing for a playoffs spot,

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Speaker 1: you know what that particular Now, maybe a little early,

466
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Speaker 1: but that's that's what I'm I'm kind of you know,

467
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: that's what I'm kind of hopeful. But look, you know,

468
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Speaker 1: to to end this on an optimistic standpoint, you you

469
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Speaker 1: you started with Daniel, and I want to you know,

470
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Speaker 1: the positives. There's a lot of positives there. I mean,

471
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Speaker 1: you know, you start with the athleticism, the accuracy standpoint.

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00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: I mean this guy's throwing motion. I mean there's no

473
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Speaker 1: flaws there. I mean you can be an amateur quarterback

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Speaker 1: coach and watch this guy throw the ball. Is I

475
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Speaker 1: mean there's there's no strain, there's no stress. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a natural delivery. Yeah, and I still question whether or

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Speaker 1: not there's um you know, he's he's you know, he's

478
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Speaker 1: got the arm for December. But right now it looks

479
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Speaker 1: like he does. And I mean there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: positives there, and I'm hoping that Daniel becomes one of

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Speaker 1: those guys who really starts to emerge as we move

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Speaker 1: into the next year. But hey, listen, we get we

483
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: get our game plan, We get on a plane, we

484
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 1: fly to Detroit. You go out there. You know it's

485
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 1: going to be a fast track. It's not gonna be

486
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Speaker 1: like last Sunday. Barkley excels. He does a Barris Anders

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Speaker 1: impersonation from the Offense to live and you know when

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Speaker 1: we come home with the wind, the appreciate it to zero.

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Speaker 1: One four five, one three is the number Lenny always

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Speaker 1: pumped up. Got her mind everybody once again, Big Blue

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Speaker 1: four six four four more details details, I should say.

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Speaker 1: Let's now go out to uh Missouri check in with Russell. Hello, Russ,

498
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Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Paul? Hey, what's going on show? Um? Hello? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Hello you ga, We hear you loud and clear. All right,

500
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Speaker 1: So this year, this year, right, yeah, I might expecting

501
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: the Giants to go to the playoffs. I wasn't expecting

502
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: this year. Is I to go to the playoffs? All right?

503
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: The players got to progress. This is a Daniel Jones

504
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: progression year. Let him learn. I'm seeing every like last

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Speaker 1: game in Arizona, in the Patients game. I'm glad we

506
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Speaker 1: had detests looks like that. I want Daniel Jones that

507
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: you heard what Pat Dave said. He's a smart kid.

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Speaker 1: So the more defense and the difficult he sees the

509
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: next following year, he's gonna know better. But the problem

510
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Speaker 1: with the Giant said, this is what Giant says. I'm

511
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: confused about him before then, Dad Government said out his

512
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: bother he's not rebuilding. He was contending for the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Now we're about rebuilding. If you're confusing, everybody want you

514
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: to say you'd be building some day one and so

515
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: understands like like the following you they took take on Barkley.

516
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: It's okay. Now we're trying to get me in to

517
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Speaker 1: see me not go to the playoffs. In the back

518
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Speaker 1: of their mind they will rebuilding. Yes, you know what, Russ, Uh,

519
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: you make a very fair point, but you know and

520
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: and people quote unquote the whole you feet to the fire. Well,

521
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: Dave said this where we're trying to win. Now, it's

522
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Speaker 1: not rebuilding. Listen any coach, but yeah, any coach who

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Speaker 1: who is rebuilding. Still there's not a coach who doesn't

524
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Speaker 1: go out every Sunday or the general manager looking expecting

525
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Speaker 1: to win a game. You're right, yeah, yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's what you says. I confuse about Daniel

527
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Speaker 1: Jones this moment. Let him hope told him the hardest

528
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: defense in the world. It's just it's like college. His

529
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: first day, he's a freshman. Let him learn make yourself

530
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: the most season, but turn it up. So that's something

531
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Speaker 1: I wanted to say, John, be patient. Let the kid,

532
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: this is what we want you to see. What happened

533
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: to saying yesterday? Right? Okay, then let's you mean the ghosts,

534
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: the ghosts Halloween? He let me let you have fans

535
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: worry about ghosts and let you worry about what you

536
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: worry about. Okay, This isn't a misery loves company situation,

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Speaker 1: all right. Ros. So that's thank you for the call,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you very much. Two zero one trying

539
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Speaker 1: to three is the number? Oh, look who's on? We

540
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 1: haven't heard from him in a while. Let's go up

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Speaker 1: to Portland, Maine and speak with Charlie. Charlie, Charlie. Hello, Charlie, Hey,

542
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: say Paul, Hi, what's going on? Charlie, Hey man, I'm

543
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: not happy. I am not happy at all, and I'm

544
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Speaker 1: not happy at this coaching staff. How can our special

545
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Speaker 1: team coach not tell the balls in the end zone

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Speaker 1: catch it and taking Charlie Charlie, hold on. I needed

547
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Speaker 1: time out that because coach Shermer told us yesterday he

548
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Speaker 1: was no, no, well no, he's that coach. Yeah, but

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00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: he's the head coach. You can't say that the player

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00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: or the special teams coach did wrong. If the head

551
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: coach says, I believe in my player to make a play,

552
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Speaker 1: and if he's only a yard in the end zone,

553
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: it's okay for him to run it out. Now, you

554
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: can disagree with the head coach's decision, and that's fine.

555
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. Charlie. You're entitled to

556
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: disagree with his decision, but make sure that you you

557
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: point your disagreement in the right direction. It's not on

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Speaker 1: Slayton and it's not on Team Mack. These special teams coach.

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Speaker 1: The head coach said he's got a green light for

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Speaker 1: his player who he believes in to try to make

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Speaker 1: a play, and maybe he was covered up, because that's Charlie,

562
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Speaker 1: we didn't want to throw them under the bus. Let's

563
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Speaker 1: not go into a conspiracy theory. He flat out, He

564
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Speaker 1: flat out, Patrick, I'm a flat out simply stated clearly,

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Speaker 1: if he was a yard was our kickoff returner. He wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Valentine was, and Valentine did have a fifty yard return.

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Speaker 1: This guy never did any kickoff returns for us until

568
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Speaker 1: that game. Okay, But Charlie, Charlie, you also understand that

569
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Speaker 1: Slayton has incredible sub four four speed, so it's not

570
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Speaker 1: unthinkable trying to make a play. Yeah, it's not unthinkable

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Speaker 1: that in his mind, if given the green light, he's

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Speaker 1: going to try to take it out. All right, let

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Speaker 1: me let me go on from this. Okay, now, our

574
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: detention coach, he had ten days to figure out Arizona

575
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Speaker 1: is often ten days. The fellow chick had ten days,

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Speaker 1: if Sean Payton had ten days, or for any good

577
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Speaker 1: defensive coach had ten days to figure out somebody's offense

578
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Speaker 1: coming into the next week. And they go up and

579
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: down the field three times and every time they had

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00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: the ball, that is bad preparation, that is bad scheme

581
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Speaker 1: or whatever. And you can keep saying they're not executing, Well,

582
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Speaker 1: you better start getting plays where they can execute. I

583
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: suggest you send in your resume to Dave Getleman and

584
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: looked at me. Won't even be there any year. Okay, Charlie,

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00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: thank you very much. You know you know this is

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Speaker 1: the same Charlie. We didn't hear from you for two

587
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Speaker 1: three weeks, but we knew we would hear from you

588
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Speaker 1: as soon as they had a real clunker. Okay, you know,

589
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: just just to be fair about this, And I'm not

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00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: telling you the Giants played well because they didn't. They

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00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: played very poorly. Did we open up the show by

592
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: saying that did? Did? Did I say? We could have

593
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: both been knocked over by a nothing way? It's nothing

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00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: about Sunday was pretty. It was an ugly day all around.

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00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: There were mistake teks made from top to bottom all around.

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00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: No one is disputing that. But to say that the

597
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals ran up and down the field. They had two

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00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: d forty five yards of total offense. They scored seventeen

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00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: points off of three Daniel Jones turnovers. Now, now, am

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Speaker 1: I telling you the defense played well? No, they did

601
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: not play well, but they did not exactly play horrible either.

602
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: They were putting horrible positions by an offense that malfunctioned.

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Speaker 1: In fact, to be specific with you, the Cardinals had

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Speaker 1: one seventy four yard drive and one eighty two yard

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Speaker 1: drive to lengthy scoring drives. There are I'm sorry, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are other there are other drives were ten yards

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Speaker 1: minus seven five one nineteen minus five minus eight fifty four.

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Speaker 1: I'll be perfectly frank with you, on most Sundays, that's

609
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Speaker 1: not a bad track record. So that the Giants played

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00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: well enough to win, Absolutely not. They played well enough

611
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: to lose, and they did lose. But here's the thing.

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00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: Scott had the same problem. Charlie's got the same problem.

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00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: They're upset, they're frustrated, they're emotional, and they're just throwing

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Speaker 1: misery against the wall and blame against the wall, and

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00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: they're not actually going through the details to understand exactly

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00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: where the problems were, and they just scatter shoot. Many

617
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Speaker 1: people do that. I understand that. That's why we're here.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens after a law. Okay, we're here to

619
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Speaker 1: help you sort through the mud against the wall and

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Speaker 1: the scatter shot. We'll tell you what was bad. I'm

621
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Speaker 1: not afraid to tell you what was bad. Neither of

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Speaker 1: you rus We opened up it was bad. But by

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Speaker 1: saying that it was a clunker, I think I used

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00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: the term stinker, but just accurate, you know, just being accurate,

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Speaker 1: and where you're throwing the mud, don't just throw it

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Speaker 1: up against the wall and hope it sticks all over

627
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: the place. That doesn't work. And and Charlie is also

628
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: bringing out and this is no disrespect to bet your

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Speaker 1: I mean, if Bill Belichick had time, well, let's compare

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Speaker 1: everybody to Bill Belichick. Okay, let's stop. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Virginia checking with Sergeant James Kennedy. Boy, that that sounds

632
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Speaker 1: like a powerful name. Sergeant James Kennedy. You're on with

633
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: Russell and Paul. How doing Paul, Hello, thank you for

634
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: your service. I appreciate that. Um. I hadn't called in

635
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: a while. But yeah, I'm just I was so upset.

636
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: It was my birthday Sunday, Happy birthday, buddy. I had

637
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: to work and then watch the game late on table.

638
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for the best. I think the Giant is

639
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: gonna come up with some kind of spark. Um. I mean,

640
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: they gotta be aggressive, just like that when they played

641
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and just keep fighting, you know, if in

642
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: defense and just do what y'all gotta do to win

643
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: the game. And just played four quarters no matter who

644
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: you got in there. Because if they can play good

645
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: without a couple of starters against the Patriots, you know,

646
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: imagine now. And I was so upset. I was like, well,

647
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: where is he? Eli? You know, I know he's not

648
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: coming back in but I missed him. But I know

649
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones can only do what he can do, but

650
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: he has to have blocking and uh but I appreciate

651
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: all what y'all do and this have I just wanted

652
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: the Giants keep fighting because I'm I'm there for him,

653
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: well know, and I'm Sergeant James. I I don't think

654
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that's that's in dispute. I I think

655
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: that the fight, you know, continues. It's listen, you you

656
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: mentioned you know that's what was frustrating about the past

657
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: game because this past game we were all excited to

658
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: see what we're is going to happen with se Quon

659
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: back in the lineup, would have an Ingram back in

660
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: the lineup. But you know, it started out with you know,

661
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: an eight yard excuse me, almost an eight minute possession

662
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: to start the game by uh by the Cards. Then

663
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: you go, was it three and out? It was three

664
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: and our giants three and out on the first possession,

665
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: and there goes your first quarter. You follow, So I

666
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: mean it just um after that at its snowball. Yeah,

667
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: one first, one first down. The Giants had one first

668
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: down in the first quarter on two possessions. The Cardinals

669
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: had the ball for eleven minutes in the first quarter.

670
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, it's sergent that that's

671
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: what upset me, to be perfectly honest with you, and

672
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: that's where a lot of the blame needs to go to.

673
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: How about those players who did not show any life

674
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: in the first quarter on either side of the ball,

675
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: and I asked Michael Thomas about it afterwards on the

676
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: MSG post game, I asked Redd Ellison about it. They

677
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: didn't have answers for it. The players, the players themselve elves,

678
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: have to take a lot of the responsibility for not

679
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: having uh an excited, uh jacked up emotional start to

680
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: that game because everybody was giving them reason to be

681
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: that way and they didn't come out and show that.

682
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: That's on them. Yes, I apps alright, we're trying, man,

683
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: Thank you again. Thanks, I appreciate it. To zero, one, four, five, one,

684
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: three is the number I got any more. Yeah, we got,

685
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: we we we got. We got a couple here. Let

686
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: me go back to these here a second. I actually

687
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: had closed the uh the giants chat up. We had

688
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: a couple here. Um. We had a guy here said um.

689
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: He wanted to know the snap count for the safeties

690
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: from the last game. He says, he wonders how many

691
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: snaps Thomas, and but they're getting Um, that was our

692
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: old friend. Yes, we have, we have. We have seen

693
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: him many of times. And I did look up the

694
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: snap count and but they played every defensive snap, which

695
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: was Thomas played thirty four on defense because the Giants

696
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: did use a lot of the three safety package. Um.

697
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: I like. I like what Michael Thomas brings to the

698
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: table because he's a prose pro and he gives effort

699
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: and he's smart. He doesn't always make every play. You know,

700
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: he's not the most gifted. He's not Ronnie Lott Okay

701
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: too many people, but but he he gives you what

702
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: he has and I and I really do appreciate him

703
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: for for that reason. Um, we had here another one

704
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to say. Danny d n y G. Brooklyn

705
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: says it's time to play Julian Love in the secondary,

706
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame rookie Again, He's an option. I don't

707
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: know that that necessarily immediately helps you, because with his

708
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: lack of experience, if you throw him in there this week,

709
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna make mistakes. Do well. That's the discussion that

710
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: you and I have had with callers before. And I

711
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: can't answer that because I'm not seeing him every day

712
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 1: in practice, they're seeing him. Uh. If they deem him ready,

713
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: he's gonna play. If they don't deem him ready, he's

714
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: not gonna be in there. Let's go back down to uh.

715
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: Let's again to zero five one three is another. Let's

716
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: go down to Texas and check in with Don. Hello, Don,

717
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: how are you doing your own with Russ and Paul?

718
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm doing horrible, Russ, I'm in Cowboy Country as a

719
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: Giant fan. Are you fair enough? Fair enough done? In Dallas?

720
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, okay, speaking of Mystery Love's company, thanks

721
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: for joining us. Correct me if I'm wrong? What do

722
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: you got? All right? The reason I don't I don't

723
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: want fans to break down in particular thing with what's

724
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: going wrong. But I'm gonna My assessment of this situation

725
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: is this, the Giants are just a bad fundamental team.

726
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: They are not tackling, their gaps, are wrong everything from

727
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: top to bottom. They're a bad team. Coach Parcels used

728
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: to say all the time. To win a football game,

729
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: you gotta win two out of the three teams offense,

730
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: defense or special teams. When your special teams is the

731
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: only one winning, for you. We have a big problem. Well,

732
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: I will say this one thing that you just said

733
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: about the tackling, I would concur with that. I think

734
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: for some reason, and I don't know what it is, um,

735
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: but I've seen too many broken tackles where you get

736
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: a hand on a guy and it's just a hand

737
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: and you don't get them down where we're no, no,

738
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: don to me, that's a fair point. I've seen it.

739
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: You know, you know, um, where a four yard game

740
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: becomes six and that's a significant difference. You know, I'd

741
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: rather be second and and and six as opposed to

742
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: set can in four or third and six as opposed.

743
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: And that's exactly when you look at the offensive side,

744
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: I can go down a bunch of fundamentals that are

745
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: going wrong there, so basic stuff like drop passes. Then

746
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: you get a penalty that backs you up, and then

747
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: I'm I always complement Daniel Jones, but you also got

748
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: to criticize the guy too, the basics that Daniel Jones again,

749
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: p Dot and Russ correct me if I'm wrong. What

750
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm seeing with him is fundamentally fundamentally fixable. The way

751
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: he pumps the ball in his hand, he double clutches it,

752
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: he pumps it. It's wasted motion. It's that wasted basic

753
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: fundamentals that leads him to get sacked. And he holds

754
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: the ball low, which opens him up for stript fumbles.

755
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: These are all basic fundamental stuff. When you are a

756
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: bad fundamental team and you're turning the ball over, this

757
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: is what you're gonna see, bad ugly football. Well, listen,

758
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's gonna dispute He's got to hold

759
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: onto the ball better, so you know, uh, whether it's

760
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: two hands higher, lower, whatever, it's got to be corrected.

761
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: So don nobody is going to dispute you on that. Now,

762
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: are you a transplanted that New Yorker or you're just

763
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: a Texas guy who has seen the light and you've

764
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: been a fan of the Big Blue. I'm born and

765
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: bred New York, New York. I watched you from way

766
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: back when you would cover my My first memories of

767
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: you was given cheers to the EIGHTI six mets, which

768
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: wasn't very much because that's my team, and it's just like,

769
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: all right, it's painful. Anyway, I got two questions for

770
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: p dot all right, and then I'll take it off

771
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: the air Guy, So p Dot to follow up on

772
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: my assessment of basic fundamentals, do you see a possibility

773
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: of a coaching change if this trend continues for the

774
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: rest of the year as fundamentals say, for example, if

775
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: a Josh McDaniel becomes available or the Oklahoma coach becomes available.

776
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: And my second question is, p Dot, have you ever

777
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 1: thought about writing a book based on your experience covering

778
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: the Giants from all the years you've been doing it.

779
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: I would read it have a good thing. I think

780
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: you're very kind. Uh. My two answers are no, because

781
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that needs to stay in

782
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: a lockbox. When you have been around an organization as

783
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: long as I have, and you have seen many of

784
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: things behind the curtain. Uh, that's the kind of stuff

785
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: that would make a great book but can never be revealed. Uh.

786
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: So that that's my answer to that. I have enjoyed

787
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: this thoroughly. I try to bring as much knowledge and

788
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: experience as I've gained over thirty seven years to answering

789
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: your questions and and giving you analysis and knowledge and

790
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: and hopefully helping you enjoy the game. But I appreciate

791
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: that No, I would never write a book, uh number two.

792
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: In terms of the coach, I don't see any way

793
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: unless there is a total collapse. I mean we're talking

794
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: atomic bomb type of failure and break that that that

795
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: coach Shermer would not be back for for two thousand

796
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: and twenty. Again, the Giants are in phase two of

797
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: a three phase program him. I know that that's how

798
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: they have set this up. And and that's you know,

799
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: he he unless he does something so incredibly egregious, he

800
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: certainly will deserve, by anybody's attempt to evaluate an opportunity

801
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: to coach phase three of this operation to see if

802
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: he can get this team where they want to go.

803
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: I think the discussion on it that doesn't make sense right.

804
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: It's and I don't mean to disparage anybody for bringing

805
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: it up, but I think it's a ridiculous notion. He

806
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: made the difficult decision, which was a very difficult decision,

807
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: to replace Eli Manning and put in the future. The

808
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: future does not get decided this season, Okay, It's it's

809
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: as simple as that. And and I have to say this, Paul,

810
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, because we've had calls on it. We've also

811
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: you brought up on Twitter and I'm I'm seeing. Also,

812
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, folks, I understand if you don't

813
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: like it. You know that that Darius Layton tried to

814
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: run the ball out. I gotta tell you I didn't

815
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: mind it. And I'm not saying that after the fact.

816
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: Like to me, I'm looking at a guy who's an

817
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: athletic guy with speed trying to make a play to

818
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: do something. You know, it's not like the Giants will

819
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: moving up and down the field. And and as as

820
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: Sherman said, now, I would have been annoyed if it

821
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: was deep in the end zone and then he tried

822
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: to run it out. If he's a yard into the

823
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: end zone, he tried to run it out. It didn't

824
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: work out, end of story. Okay. But as Paul said,

825
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: as Paul said, with that, and in the in the

826
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: last five minutes of the game, they didn't have one,

827
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: but they had two chances to go down the field

828
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: and win the game and fumbles screwed it up. Okay.

829
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: So with all that being said, they still had a

830
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: chance with with with Nick Picken and Nicolon Diamond on

831
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: this play and we should have done this, we shouldn't

832
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: have done were still there, So if you want to

833
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: look at a positive. With all the lousy things that happened,

834
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: they still had a chance with bub Buck fifty eight

835
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: left in the game to go down the field and

836
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: win the game. Okay, two zero five, one three is

837
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: the number. Let's go down to Florida speak with Mike. Hello, Mike,

838
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Paul. Good afternoon, and gentlemen, Paul,

839
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: you're a graduate of Fordham University. I might correct that

840
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: is correct, sir, and so am I Now, how did

841
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: you feel about watching that running back on Arizona apart?

842
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 1: You know what, I I'm not one who sits there

843
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: and necessarily roots for the alma mater no matter what,

844
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: because I know people who think that their alma mater

845
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: rules all and that they have to root for their

846
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: album out of people every single chance that they get,

847
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: no matter what. Not, Paulie, not when it's for the

848
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: alma mater is playing against the giants. I am a

849
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: Fordham guy and I love WFUV sports. That's where I

850
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: cut my teeth. But trust me, I did not have

851
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: Fordham pompoms out on Sunday. Well. I'm pretty much the

852
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: same way, and I was just trying to kid you

853
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: about it, Because about it, I answered, you want to

854
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: set the game down here. So this is an observation

855
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: from some people and you can jump on this. Uh.

856
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: But the one thought who he must measure stuff on

857
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: his screen. He believes that Jones is about a half

858
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: yard closer when he's taking the big you know, you know,

859
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: the snap back where he's supposed to be like, I

860
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: guess three yards behind or or whatever. But he's actually

861
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: closer than Tom Brady when he's getting the snap. You

862
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: guys noticed anything that is is that of any relevance.

863
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: And with that, I'll take it off the line. Hey, uh,

864
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: you guys have a tough job motivating everybody now. But

865
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: I agree with what you just said. Russ. You say

866
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: three years, and I think it's a four year. We

867
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: got an off a young team, and you just gotta

868
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: have faith. It just doesn't happen. Uh. You know, Mike,

869
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: in the first season, and you know this is seven

870
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: games into the second season, there's been a lot of changes.

871
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: I understand that that's a young roster um, and they'll

872
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: probably be some more changes, um, And that's that's the

873
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: way good things happen. So let's hope that you know,

874
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: Gettleman's draft and getting some good free agents of what

875
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: you described. I think you've described, you know, quality players

876
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: before Russ and that's what we need. You gotta Mike,

877
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, my friend. Call again. Two

878
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 1: zero one one three is the number that's uh from Florida.

879
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: Let's move back up to Brooklyn and check in. Whats hello, Norris?

880
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: We're in Brooklyn. Are you all right, buddy? I was going,

881
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: how you doing all right? I'm just pretty good. I

882
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: just want to call. I wasn't even a coach that

883
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: I was just listening and I heard Charlie got on

884
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: the mic and I'm like, I got a call too.

885
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: I kind of listen. I know you've given him a

886
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: hard time and he always calls in and kind of

887
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: goes on his rank. But he wasn't necessarily wrong either. Um.

888
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: Someone called a little bit before him and just mentioned

889
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: how you know, Dan Jones is gonna go to ups

890
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: and down and that makes sense, and it's kind of

891
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 1: okay because it's his rookie years, so you can expect

892
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: a lot of problems. Um, but we had opportunities to

893
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: win the games, you know what I mean. And that's

894
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 1: kind of where like especially a fans because we're we're

895
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: going to competition. Um, when you see those chances to

896
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: steal a win when we played a bad game, and

897
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: you kind of get you know, even though there was

898
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: an explanation why he was able to come out of

899
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: the end zone for the special team to play, you know,

900
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: it's a many warning without week anytime. It's just you know,

901
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: but but Norris, Norris, as we said, okay, if you

902
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: don't like to play, you don't like to play, as

903
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, and as the coach feels the same way.

904
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: And this is not I mean I felt that when

905
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: had happened. Okay, he tried to make a play, and

906
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: you know what, had he made the play, everybody would

907
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: have been patent him on on the back and lifted

908
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: him on his shoulder. Rus. I hear you, I definitely

909
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: hear you, but not making it that you know, and

910
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: that's not that's not just one thing. I don't done this,

911
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: you know one example, right, you know what, Nors, I'm

912
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna. I'm gonna let you finish. I'm gonna

913
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: let you finish. Let me just have a pause button.

914
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you finish. Whatever Slayton does. Okay, here's

915
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: the bottom line. Whether or not he runs it out

916
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: to the ten, the fifteen, the five, the thirty, or

917
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 1: the thirty five, here's the bottom line. In the last

918
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: four and a half minutes, the Giants had two possessions

919
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: with a chance to go down on the field and

920
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: win the game. In Tampa, they needed a touchdown and win.

921
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: The old line protected and Daniel Jones brought him down

922
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: the field and scored the winning touchdown against the Cardinals

923
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: despite two opportunities to do it. The offensive line gave

924
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: up four sacks in the last five minutes of that

925
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: game and two forced fumbles because the pressure in the

926
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: pocket was too much, and and and the offense self destructed. Now,

927
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 1: to be perfectly frank with you, Slayton's kickoff return had

928
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: nothing to do with that, you know. And I appreciate you,

929
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: Paul for let me finish because I don't want to,

930
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, get go right ahead and go right ahead. Um.

931
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: But and I'm not you know, I'm not angry. I'm

932
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: just really point out it's really about you know, even

933
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: with the third down and the droll play, you know,

934
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: I understand they saw, uh, not a lot in the box,

935
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: so they figured had a chance to draw play. Um.

936
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: But because a tough decision, you know what I mean.

937
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: And sometimes whether it goes right a wrong, sometimes you

938
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: kind of would hope that the coaches gonna make the

939
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: decisions that are going to give them a better shot

940
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: because you know that, and say, wasn't our only shot,

941
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: but it was the shot that we had at that time, right,

942
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: so it's like, this is your is another shot you

943
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 1: got you get So even though all the other things

944
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: might have happened before, it's like, this is our chance now.

945
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: And that was just like, you know, it's like, come on,

946
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 1: we can taking it with the two minute warning at

947
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: the automatically by just taking it there. So that was

948
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: just like I guess what I'm going down to is

949
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: sometimes with Shermer, this needs kinds of decisions. Um. And

950
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: even though one game doesn't lead to the next, they

951
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: started to pile up and as fans again because again

952
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: we're all fans looking it from our point of view

953
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: as fans, we just lose a lot of faith. You

954
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't lose faith. But I appreciate it. Again, I get

955
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but you know, Paul just he laid

956
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: it out. I was gonna bring it up, and I'm

957
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: Paul beat me to it, and I'm glad he did.

958
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: He laid it out, you know, like the hole earlier?

959
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: Who is it? Scott from New Mexico was jumping on

960
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: what uh bathet? We're jumping on him when there's so

961
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: much more that happened before it got the bathet. Well,

962
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, after Slayton does runs it out, what happens

963
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: after that? They take two sacks? So what does it

964
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: matter if I mean two sacks of the force pumb.

965
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: You know, we're just looking at let's pick on this

966
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: play because this is a good one to be a

967
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: pain in the s about, and let's go at it.

968
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. You know, I can't get you

969
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: being unhappy about it, but like, don't beat it into

970
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: the ground like it's the only play. This was the

971
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 1: most colossal blunder of all time. I mean really that

972
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: that return did not cost the Giants the game because

973
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: they still had a chance to go downfield. They still

974
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: had a chance. You know, I was just talking about

975
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: with a minute fifty eight left, Paupa right out, they

976
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: had two chances in five minutes. That's not bad considering

977
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: how they played and lack of exec You know that

978
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: old old adage in football, lack of execution. Lack of

979
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: execution leads to execution, the wrong kind of execution. Six

980
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: eleven snaps. Eleven snaps the Giants offense had in the

981
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: final four minutes and twenty three seconds. And in those

982
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: eleven snaps they suffered four sacks and two forced fumbles. Okay,

983
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: let you really want to put blame. Put put blame

984
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: on the offense that could not do a darn thing

985
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: with the ball in the last two possessions, you know,

986
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, but the single out, this is like, how,

987
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: my goodness, Darius Layton was allowed to run it out.

988
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the blunder of all blunders. I just

989
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: can't buy it. I'm sorry. Let's go to uh, you know,

990
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: let's wrap things up with Ricky. He's been waiting patiently

991
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: out on Long Island. Hello, Ricky, how are you doing today?

992
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: But you're on with what's up? But I just want

993
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: to be a little positive here. First, first thing, I

994
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,959
Speaker 1: got like two points and I'll let you guys wrap

995
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: it up. Um. First thing is everybody's beating up to

996
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: say and beat up Sladen let's let's take it back.

997
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: It was pouring rain, Rosa's hits the field goal, and

998
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: the game is tied at the end and we go

999
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: to O T. So I mean, it's it's countless things

1000
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 1: things happen. I don't want to dwell on negative um.

1001
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: That's an example of something that was big at the

1002
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: end of the game, more than any of the other

1003
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: things anybody has brought up. As far as I could tell,

1004
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that went wrong. And that's

1005
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: the point. And and and I appreciate you at least

1006
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: trying to bring something else up, because again, people are

1007
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: just throwing mud against the wall, making bread broadbush statements,

1008
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: when if you really analyze this game properly, you can

1009
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: figure out the fifteen different things that screwed up. Yeah,

1010
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: it was a collective effort question. I do want to

1011
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: say two things on a positive number one, I love

1012
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: seeing this defense grinding it out and and doing everything

1013
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: they can within their power. I guess special teams you could,

1014
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: you could put them together here they're trying um offenses.

1015
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: You know, just it's having some issues. It happens. We

1016
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: know what it what it is. I I agree with

1017
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: what you guys are saying about this rebuild process, and

1018
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I wanted to take it. Anyway,

1019
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: some positive things here. When was the last time we

1020
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: could say we had two drafts in a row that

1021
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 1: we hit on late round picks and and fives and

1022
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: and even threes. I mean, you look back at some

1023
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: of these drafts since you know, oh, five oh six,

1024
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: you got one guy who stuck around from most of

1025
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: these drafts. After that, they were all gone in the

1026
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: season or two. Um. And then the final thing is

1027
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, you know, everybody you know

1028
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: talks about the linebackers and talks about I just want

1029
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: everybody to relax. Okay, relax. You had three at one

1030
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: point rookies and if the four weeks of play that

1031
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: we're in the top twenty five rookies this year from

1032
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: this draft class, Dexter, Laurence, O'shane's Immanez. This is all

1033
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: PFF and Ryan Connolly, Ryan Connolly looks like we finally

1034
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: might have a linebacker. It happens, injuries happened, But have

1035
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: a little faith here. You know, gentlemen, I've seen more

1036
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: at a gentleman in two seasons than I saw at

1037
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: a at a recent Tenax. Everybody relax is the first

1038
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: year he's gonna have any cap space to do anything. Okay,

1039
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: give the guy a chance. Many up, Ricky. You know what,

1040
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: And I appreciate your I appreciate your perspective very much.

1041
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: And I think what has happened is the frustration since

1042
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: the two thousand eleven Super Bowl has built up and

1043
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: left a lot of scar tissue. And as a result,

1044
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: the frustration that people are feeling now is a build

1045
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: up of several years of issues. And and it's unfair

1046
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: to geentleman in the shermour to hop on their backs

1047
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: now for a lot of the failures that happened before

1048
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: they got here. Ditto with the currents as well. Yes,

1049
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: but but Russ's human nature, you know, prompts this to happen,

1050
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: because the frustration has been building. Doesn't make it right,

1051
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: doesn't make it right. But that's where it's coming from.

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Speaker 1: I would not dispute that. But there's also no disputing

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01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: get's time to wrap things up. So our thanks to

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01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: the good man Pierce, and butlet takes care of us

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Speaker 1: at the controls. My buddy here, poly Dots, I'm Russ Salzburg.

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Speaker 1: If I'm correct, you're back with me tomorrow Thursday. Oh

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01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: excuse me, it's not you tomorrow, I'm back. It's Lance

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01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: with me tomorrow. Uh, that is that you're with David

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01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: on Thursday, Okay, but it is myself and Lance Metal tomorrow,

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01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: and of course it's you people tomorrow. So until then,

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01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: have yourselves a good day, a good night, and I'll

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01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: see you back here tomorrow. Again that number, so you

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01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: can dial it as soon as you get up to

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Speaker 1: zero one, four, five three, see tomorrow,