Speaker 1: I Am all in. Oh more, I Am all in
Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody,
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson here. This is the I Am All In
Speaker 1: Podcast with our Heart Radio and one eleven Productions. We
Speaker 1: are going to break down The Breakup Part two. And
Speaker 1: I've said it before, I'm gonna say it again. What
Speaker 1: a rollicking affair. This was, dude, you you got in
Speaker 1: the fight, This the cuffs, the dream come true? But
Speaker 1: what's with the Like? I gassed out so bad? I
Speaker 1: was like bending over? What Why did I do that?
Speaker 1: Old man? Have you know? I got limited energy? Thing?
Speaker 1: I got a double over here and suck wind. I
Speaker 1: think you had to do because he was a teenager,
Speaker 1: so you couldn't really like sixteen little dance can't handle
Speaker 1: a sixteen year old coma. I gotta I got a bendo.
Speaker 1: Let's see. I called it was a hug, was a headlock.
Speaker 1: I put him in a headlock. That doesn't take a
Speaker 1: lot of energy. You know. This is episode seventeen, The Breakup,
Speaker 1: Part two, air date March fifteen, two thousand one. Rebounding
Speaker 1: from a fight with Dean Rory ENT's of kissing Kissing
Speaker 1: Tristan at a party, while Laura Lia follows her own
Speaker 1: impulse to show up at Max's house for a night
Speaker 1: of passion. I mean, holy cow, there's so much to discuss.
Speaker 1: This was jam packed. Let's start with the fight. So
Speaker 1: what do you remember, Like, was it choreographed? I was
Speaker 1: shocked that I even put my hands on him. You know,
Speaker 1: this day and age, you put your hands on somebody,
Speaker 1: you go to jail for ten years. But right, I
Speaker 1: don't think you could do that these days, especially since
Speaker 1: he was a teenager and you were like, you know,
Speaker 1: the older guy, and yeah, it's like I would be
Speaker 1: if I did that today, it would be child abuse, right,
Speaker 1: he's how old is he in the show? Sixteen? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's child abuse, right, twenty years ago, I think it
Speaker 1: was probably a pretty entertaining scene. Now everyone's like, I
Speaker 1: would have been canceled. He would have been canceled. I
Speaker 1: would have been canceled, putting putting hands on a on
Speaker 1: a team, right for just wanting to come get a
Speaker 1: cup of coffee, just a cup of coffee for kidd
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't he didn't dump. He got dumped, right,
Speaker 1: He kind of got dumped and then he realized, like
Speaker 1: I need to dump her, she dumped him. That's why
Speaker 1: I think she's holding back so much with the details,
Speaker 1: because if you get into the details on it, I
Speaker 1: think Lorala is going to be like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: just such god. I mean, I'll give you a quick
Speaker 1: list of all the things we're going to talk about today.
Speaker 1: The breakup, Rory, rearranging the furniture, the list, Suki and Jackson, Max,
Speaker 1: the party, Lane got a boyfriend, Tristan, broke up with
Speaker 1: Summer too much, the kiss wallowing. That's all in this
Speaker 1: episode in one episode. Where do we begin, even Lane's
Speaker 1: hooking up, I mean, Lane having the great scenes, you know,
Speaker 1: where do we start? Where do you want to start?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we've covered the fight. You know,
Speaker 1: we've covered no try so hard to remember. They must
Speaker 1: have choreographed it because it was tricky. Of course. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a fight. There's a fight coordinator, and we
Speaker 1: went through it. I don't really remember, but every time
Speaker 1: there was any kind of tussle like that, like I
Speaker 1: remember with Christopher's fight, it was a fight coordinator. They're
Speaker 1: like a professional fight coordinator and they and they really
Speaker 1: you know, they you know, you rehearse, rehearse, rehearse, rehearse.
Speaker 1: So we just rehearsed a lot. I guess, well, and
Speaker 1: so do you shoot it once where the cameras out
Speaker 1: there with you, and then you have to do it
Speaker 1: again because of the window shot where Lora, Li and
Speaker 1: Rory see it through the window. Yeah, it's a steady
Speaker 1: it's like a steadicam out there with us, so it
Speaker 1: follows us around. And then yeah, they set up inside
Speaker 1: and do it. Uh they get that. Yeah, it's but
Speaker 1: I was shocked that Luke went after this young boy.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's taller than me six four, right,
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm throwing down the danes on him. Man,
Speaker 1: you you messed with my girls, So I'm throwing down
Speaker 1: some danes on you. And here it is. But did
Speaker 1: a great job too, because he's like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? He did? He did a great job. But
Speaker 1: I just I hammed it up with the getting gassed
Speaker 1: so easily. That was not great. And then Laura, I
Speaker 1: has to kind of drag you away. But he started it,
Speaker 1: you know, but he started it, but he sounded like
Speaker 1: an idiot who started it. I didn't think that was
Speaker 1: very Lukey looking back, yet, do you think Luke overreacted
Speaker 1: a tad. I think it was a little much. You know,
Speaker 1: I love this episode because because of the way the
Speaker 1: town is, every character gets to be in this episode
Speaker 1: because they all have to be a part of the breakup,
Speaker 1: you know, the gossip going around the town and checking on.
Speaker 1: So it was a great way to bring everyone back
Speaker 1: that we hadn't seen in a minute. See how's the how? Yeah? Right,
Speaker 1: And Sally Struthers just rushes in the kitchen, lorealized kitchen
Speaker 1: with the brilliant entrance and that funny stuff she does.
Speaker 1: Don't heard it's a little tell her I want to
Speaker 1: talk to her, she said, What was the last line?
Speaker 1: She said, what was the last thing? She? Oh? You know,
Speaker 1: you know I was thrown out of a car moving
Speaker 1: car one time. You know, I want to talk to
Speaker 1: Patty is so great And the best is Kirk just
Speaker 1: coming over to Rory, so like back, I knew that
Speaker 1: guy sucked. It wasn't a good one. I apologize for
Speaker 1: not talking to you about it sooner. The whole town.
Speaker 1: It's such a great way where you realize this town.
Speaker 1: And even the fact that they've never been up at
Speaker 1: that hour and they that scene was amazing. They go
Speaker 1: into Luke something like who are all these people? That's
Speaker 1: the morning crowd? We didn't even acknowledge. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that Rachel. There's so much happening in this episode that
Speaker 1: we didn't even acknowledge that Rachel, how do you sleep in?
Speaker 1: Which is like, what is that? What is that? You know?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm yeah, I know when we were up late
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh god, I was like I'm
Speaker 1: blushing with that. And she was so sparkly and sunny
Speaker 1: and Laurela I was just dying inside moral bumbling, fumbling
Speaker 1: her words, like just like oh you're gonna do and
Speaker 1: she's all perfect, like with the apron, serving the coffee,
Speaker 1: and you come down and you're kind of smitten because
Speaker 1: you're smiling in this you that was a great scene,
Speaker 1: like as in Scott Patterson acting, because I believed it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, he totally likes Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that. I enjoyed that thing. I enjoyed question
Speaker 1: yeah because it was all cute. Oh god, yeah, we
Speaker 1: we're now an item. I guess we're an item now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And she just moved herself right in after evening at
Speaker 1: the twenty one olympiad upstairs. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: staying up late. I still have to coverment extra work
Speaker 1: in putting that extra work in. It's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: It's easier for me to have lower lie with someone
Speaker 1: else than Luke with someone else. Really, you felt possessive?
Speaker 1: Did you feel a little possessive somehow? Yeah? It was.
Speaker 1: I was uncomfortable realizing like, oh my god, they did it.
Speaker 1: Oh God. Whereas like with Lura, like I think, because
Speaker 1: we know she has different relationships that lead her to Luke.
Speaker 1: That one I was like, okay, like, Luke has a
Speaker 1: girlfriend not so family friendly though, is getting a little old,
Speaker 1: you know, little channel Jen? Yes, because lord lyon Max
Speaker 1: was saucy too. That was something like he was a
Speaker 1: little shirt off, both of them macing on each other,
Speaker 1: like there you know, Oh my god. Okay, So do
Speaker 1: you think that Lorela went back to Max because of
Speaker 1: Rory's breakup or you and Rachel or what the above?
Speaker 1: Tell me? More? Well, I mean she's been thinking about
Speaker 1: this for you know, ever since it didn't work out,
Speaker 1: and every everything that's happened is since that time has
Speaker 1: pushed her back to knock on his door. Um, yeah, everything, everything,
Speaker 1: all the stress. I mean, now we see, now we've
Speaker 1: seen enough episodes, were realized that she's a great mom.
Speaker 1: She's a very compassionate, loving person, terrific mom. Smart, really
Speaker 1: knows how to sort of you know, back off with
Speaker 1: her with with Rory when she needs to. But you know,
Speaker 1: and Rory Roy is a lot like her. I'm starting
Speaker 1: to see a lot of Laurel I attributes in in
Speaker 1: Rory because she's tough. I mean, she's so vulnerable and
Speaker 1: sweet and so smart, and but she's tough like she's
Speaker 1: tough like Laurela. So she really she's giving it back.
Speaker 1: And Laurel I realizes, Wow, she's my daughter. Of course
Speaker 1: she's she's gonna be a little stubborn um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, all this drama going around with guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: and and she's again you know, and you know, thinking
Speaker 1: in a couple of years, I'm empty nest and what
Speaker 1: am I gonna do? And but she really does I mean,
Speaker 1: if she loses Luke, not not to interrupts, sorry, but
Speaker 1: but if if she feels like she's lost Luke because
Speaker 1: put her put herself in her shoes. He talks about
Speaker 1: her like she's l McPherson the one that got away
Speaker 1: and the big love of his life and broke his
Speaker 1: heart into a million tiny pieces. And now he's she's back,
Speaker 1: she's smiling, she's serving coffee, he's happy as a clam.
Speaker 1: They were up doing their Olympic training and uh, there
Speaker 1: you go. It's all over. So she's got nobody left.
Speaker 1: Luke's gone, He's gone. That's it in her mind. So yeah,
Speaker 1: hello Max. Yeah, and then you realize she never so
Speaker 1: maxim lore like didn't break up because they didn't like
Speaker 1: each other. Now they broke up because of all the
Speaker 1: extenuating circumstances. So that becomes much harder for her to
Speaker 1: get over him, which is why Rory's pressing her, how
Speaker 1: long did it take you to get over Max? And
Speaker 1: she's like, hmmm, I can't give a time limit because
Speaker 1: she's not over him. Okay, I know we need to
Speaker 1: take a break. So before we take a break, we
Speaker 1: have an announcement that's exciting. Tell us everyone can get
Speaker 1: the theme song now song Okay, yeah, so anyway, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's the theme song is is going to be It's
Speaker 1: now available on iTunes and I believe Amazon and Spotify
Speaker 1: and maybe some other platforms, but those are the big
Speaker 1: So it's called I Want to Kiss You More? Okay,
Speaker 1: and it's the theme song for the podcast. And go
Speaker 1: ahead and take a listen. Let me know what you think.
Speaker 1: And everybody that ask him us that on Instagram. So
Speaker 1: now we can answer all these people saying how can
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Speaker 1: Let me know how you feel about it, what you
Speaker 1: think about it, if it made you feel anything. Alright,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a little break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a little bit more about the breakup
Speaker 1: part two and Tristan and Rory, well that's going on
Speaker 1: in there. We'll be back in a minute. All right, everybody,
Speaker 1: we're back. I'm Scott Patterson. This is the I Heart
Speaker 1: I Am all In podcast and my god, Tristan and
Speaker 1: Rory finally right, the big party, the big party. Who's
Speaker 1: how that was Louise's? Whose house was that? That was
Speaker 1: not Louise? Was it Louise's fat? Yeah? It was a
Speaker 1: big old mansion and he was away. He was in
Speaker 1: Japan on business or vacation something. Anyway, they had the
Speaker 1: whole castle to themselves with a pool table and a
Speaker 1: DJ and more. Soda than I've ever seen my French soda.
Speaker 1: Everywhere everything was French, right. So here's here's my first
Speaker 1: thing I need to know from you. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts right now on Dean and what are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on Tristan. I feel sorry for both of them. I
Speaker 1: feel they're just getting vulnerable, and I that's what you
Speaker 1: want to see. You know, all the bravado and the
Speaker 1: facade is all down now, so you see these guys
Speaker 1: for who they really are, and and it's it's just
Speaker 1: so nice to see Tristan as he really is. And
Speaker 1: he's just a normal kid now. And with normal well,
Speaker 1: I mean he's a very wealthy kid, but he's his
Speaker 1: heart is broken. And she was obviously not the girl
Speaker 1: for him. That what was her name? Summer Summer Summer boy.
Speaker 1: Well she was hell on wheels. She was held bent
Speaker 1: for leather, that one wasn't she Summer just did not care.
Speaker 1: Even if Tristan is like the cutest, most popular boy.
Speaker 1: She was just like no, she So, you know, he
Speaker 1: dodged a bullet there and uh gosh, she showed us
Speaker 1: a side of himself that attracted the likes of a
Speaker 1: one Rory Gilmore and you know, I guess once he
Speaker 1: stops being a jerk, then he's he's okay, right, he's
Speaker 1: a he's got a heart. So he showed some heart,
Speaker 1: and he showed some empathy, and he showed you know
Speaker 1: what what what every woman wants? Um and a man
Speaker 1: and and or in a boy. But uh, yeah, interesting party.
Speaker 1: Lane hooked up Um about the kiss. It was interesting
Speaker 1: about that kiss between Tristan and Rory Um. You know,
Speaker 1: it really triggered that whole flood of emotion for her
Speaker 1: when she realized that she just was feeling bad about
Speaker 1: Dean what she sort of didn't react and trying to
Speaker 1: figure out her own fils got being sixteen and feeling
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Man, it's off, God, you go through
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, the whole the whole sort of trajectory
Speaker 1: of the breakup. You know, she's sad, then she's trying
Speaker 1: to sort of like compensate with the list and all
Speaker 1: the things and I'm not gonna wallow and you know,
Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk about it. Then decides I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go to this party, and then it's basically does see
Speaker 1: that side of Tristan. But then the kiss just pushed
Speaker 1: her the right back, you know, to her heartbreak. It
Speaker 1: was overwhelming and you could relate to sort of all
Speaker 1: of it. But I thought she played that kiss really
Speaker 1: well because there was so much, you know, she was confused,
Speaker 1: she was a little scared. When he was coming in
Speaker 1: for it, he was you know, he was a little
Speaker 1: scared too, but he was determined. He's Tristan, He's gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna kiss her. Um And but she played that beautifully.
Speaker 1: It was like three three chapters, you know, beginning of
Speaker 1: middle and an end. And she pulled away and it
Speaker 1: was just so conflict. There was so much going on
Speaker 1: with her in that moment, and I thought very well, played,
Speaker 1: very well played on her party and somebody like Summer
Speaker 1: really had to sort of stick it to Tristan for
Speaker 1: Tristan to become a nice boy, like a like a
Speaker 1: a nice guy that you're like, oh, I do feel
Speaker 1: sorry for him, and he is sweet. God, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's amazing what you attract into your life when you
Speaker 1: project a certain certain qualities. My god, he's complicated. How
Speaker 1: about the parents just wanted to leave and her mom
Speaker 1: made her stay till ten thirty, Right, she's runs up Rory,
Speaker 1: What time is am my watch, stop, it won't work.
Speaker 1: What time is it? Five? Yes, she's gone. She runs out,
Speaker 1: She sprints out of that place. It was hysterical. That
Speaker 1: was really fun. My whole party was wild. I wanted
Speaker 1: to that. That was a party that I wanted to
Speaker 1: go to. That was like, you know what, that's a
Speaker 1: high school party. I love how pissed Paris is that
Speaker 1: Lane rolls in for five minutes and gets a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Paris is literally like, what the like she's always been
Speaker 1: at the school for a hundred years. Those girls here
Speaker 1: more minutes. It's so perfect. Oh my god, Well, guys
Speaker 1: don't go up to girls that are you know, have
Speaker 1: those sour faces? Don't. I love that late? I know
Speaker 1: that's so true. Is like she's all, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I like a boy that my parents will approve of.
Speaker 1: What am I doing? Handle? How much is happening? Because
Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about like Suki and Jackson and
Speaker 1: the dinner and lor like comes into bar the car,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, where are we going to go next?
Speaker 1: So all right, so we so we've discussed Tristan and Rory.
Speaker 1: That is an ongoing, uh turn of events. This will
Speaker 1: continue to unfold I guess I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: Dean is uh man, that's tail between his legs. Now
Speaker 1: he's getting his ass kicked by the Luke Deanes kicking
Speaker 1: some putting him in headlocks. Now what a town he's
Speaker 1: he wants to go back to Chicago at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like forgetting. And then Max and Laura
Speaker 1: la I like, I don't even know how they sort
Speaker 1: of like ended it. They're like, Okay, we're gonna talk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he so so he doesn't want to get his heart
Speaker 1: crushed again. He's trying to give it the best possible
Speaker 1: chance he can have by mapping out a game plan,
Speaker 1: and especially with somebody like her who doesn't follow the
Speaker 1: rules right, And he's not really following the rules either,
Speaker 1: but you know he's gotta set He's kind of laid
Speaker 1: down the law here, like we're if you want to
Speaker 1: do this, if you really want to do this, because
Speaker 1: he suspects, I think he suspects like what she did
Speaker 1: with Christopher. When she's in deep pain or she's confused
Speaker 1: or whatever, she'll run often, you know, she'll try to
Speaker 1: you know, she'll she'll she'll do a little Olympic training
Speaker 1: and uh, you know he doesn't want to be that guy.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to get used, right, I hope everyone
Speaker 1: knows what Olympic training. He doesn't want to be used
Speaker 1: for that purpose. And he's in love with her, and
Speaker 1: you know, this is his shot, so he wants it
Speaker 1: to be Look, this is how he wants to He
Speaker 1: just wants to be very clear that he's getting involved again,
Speaker 1: and this is this is her shot. If he takes
Speaker 1: the table, you sit there also the year, we'll put
Speaker 1: this table between us. Yeah, I'm sorry, I still I
Speaker 1: still have to go back. I have this sort of
Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction to these two together with their banter.
Speaker 1: It makes me very uncomfortable. Do you still just do
Speaker 1: not like Maxim Lorelai talk to talk to us? Oh no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like the way. I don't like
Speaker 1: the banter because it's it's like the Luke Danes in
Speaker 1: me is rising up and it's like jealous. I think
Speaker 1: how she feels about you and Rachel. It's right, but
Speaker 1: we're not. I mean, I guess we're not really gushing
Speaker 1: in front of her. We're we're not We're not. My God,
Speaker 1: I wasn't gushing in front of her like I was smiling.
Speaker 1: I couldn't help myself. Rewatched the scene where you come
Speaker 1: down the stairs and you're buttoning the shirt and you're
Speaker 1: all like sparkly eye. Yes, rewatch it. You played it
Speaker 1: well because wait minute, at the top of that scene,
Speaker 1: I played it with her feelings in mind, right, and
Speaker 1: then when I realized that she doesn't have a problem
Speaker 1: with it, then I that's when I crack a smile
Speaker 1: because it's okay, so she doesn't care, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to hurt her feelings with this, so
Speaker 1: I can I disagree. I think that you were very
Speaker 1: sweet to Lorelai when you're talking about Rory. That was
Speaker 1: sort of when the like Papa Bear the friendship with
Speaker 1: them came out, and you were very protective and you
Speaker 1: you're you kind of like vibing with LORELEI, like I
Speaker 1: got you, I got the whip cream. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to tell anybody I got you. We've got something special here.
Speaker 1: It was before that you come down and you're all
Speaker 1: just sort of hard eyes at Rachel, and I don't
Speaker 1: think you are hiding it. I think it was just
Speaker 1: like she had to see how much you two like
Speaker 1: each other. She deserved it. You're saying she didn't. Every
Speaker 1: time I turned around, I'm trying to do a good
Speaker 1: deed for people. She's on another date walking by in
Speaker 1: the snow. No, I totally somebody. I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: and you guys like, No, I'm not saying I'm gonna
Speaker 1: send Rachel over to you to serve your coffee. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with that after the Olympic events
Speaker 1: of the prior fully justified. But I'm just saying it exists,
Speaker 1: like it's I'm sure part of the reason she goes
Speaker 1: back to Max is because of Luke and Rachel. Oh. Absolutely, Lee.
Speaker 1: I mean, after losing in her mind the big love
Speaker 1: of her life, she goes back to many me kidding, um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the only place she could go. And look, they're
Speaker 1: really right for each other. I I like them together.
Speaker 1: It's just that it makes me so uncomfortable too to
Speaker 1: see them doing those things. Yeah. I was even a
Speaker 1: little uncomfortable in the bed scene. I'd love to know Riley,
Speaker 1: what you thought to like, there was something weird. They're
Speaker 1: almost too much alike, you know, I felt they it's
Speaker 1: like they say the same things to each other a
Speaker 1: little cringe E. I don't know why. Why was it
Speaker 1: cringe E? Riley, what do you think? It felt very soft?
Speaker 1: Like it just felt like I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: heard you talked about touching her elbows so many times,
Speaker 1: but I just like it just felt like soft and
Speaker 1: it just felt mismatched. It just felt cringe e. Like
Speaker 1: Amy said, I was uncomfortable with them in the bed
Speaker 1: and he's got his shirt off, and it felt like, Oh,
Speaker 1: is this weird? Was he too needy? Did he was
Speaker 1: like he looks a certain way, but he acts another way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we really have to break this down because there was
Speaker 1: something in the Okay, so we're specifically when they're in
Speaker 1: the bed and they're like cuddling and she's like rubbing
Speaker 1: his chest. I was like, why is this making me
Speaker 1: want a gag? There? Yeah? And other scenes like I'm
Speaker 1: always like that's hot, you know, So it's not like
Speaker 1: all scenes like that bum me out. There's plenty that
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, but that one I was like, this
Speaker 1: is weird. You know. You know what I would have
Speaker 1: liked better and this just popped into my head. I
Speaker 1: would have liked to have seen a fight. I wish
Speaker 1: you'd just kicked her out, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like he needed Yeah, he caved really quick. It's like
Speaker 1: a can man up and toss her. You know, don't
Speaker 1: get played like this, you know. Even though she's you know,
Speaker 1: it's heartfelt, she means that. It's like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: you can't. I wanted to see Hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming by, but you can't just pop into
Speaker 1: my life like this unannounced and scramble my eggs. Try
Speaker 1: to scramble my eggs again. You know. I don't need this,
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know, you better think about
Speaker 1: this before you make a make a move. I would
Speaker 1: have preferred to see that scene other than you know,
Speaker 1: twirling his chest hair and her pinky you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh god, I know there's something gaggy about it, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I don't think. I mean, we'll
Speaker 1: have to find out because if other people loved it,
Speaker 1: but I thought that something was not it was a
Speaker 1: little old. Yeah, And then it was so like uncertain,
Speaker 1: so much is left open, and then doing right they
Speaker 1: reconsume mate and then now and we're just back to
Speaker 1: where we were. Now we still have to talk again.
Speaker 1: Now we have to lay out some parameters because you know,
Speaker 1: you're a mental case and and you know I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to have a relationship
Speaker 1: with you, you know, because you're all over the map
Speaker 1: all the time. You show up at you know, my door.
Speaker 1: After three months and again, we'll continue to talk about it,
Speaker 1: because this could be the problem in the relationship, you know. Ultimately, Look,
Speaker 1: we're ultimately it doesn't work out. We know this. I
Speaker 1: don't want to ruin it, but we need to remember
Speaker 1: this when it doesn't work out, So we go it
Speaker 1: wasn't meant to work out. Yeah, you've got two very
Speaker 1: impulsive people who are very attracted to one another, and
Speaker 1: it's just somebody just needs to get control of this thing.
Speaker 1: And I think that Max is trying to get control
Speaker 1: of this thing. That's why he wants to slip down
Speaker 1: and talk. Yes, I'll give it to him that he
Speaker 1: kept trying to kept trying to. Look, we need to
Speaker 1: sit down and talk about this. This is my life,
Speaker 1: This is could potentially be our lives together, This could
Speaker 1: be my career, this could we have to sit down
Speaker 1: and talk about it like rational human beings who care
Speaker 1: about one another, who maybe want to make a future
Speaker 1: with one another, and let's talk about the consequences of
Speaker 1: us being together. What it's gonna do to Lourie, what
Speaker 1: it's gonna do to Max's career, what it's gonna do
Speaker 1: to lauralized career. I mean, there's you know, little town's
Speaker 1: bad pr people talking this go's what a scandal? What
Speaker 1: kind of a scandal this? I mean, I grew up
Speaker 1: in a small town, you know, and you know the
Speaker 1: little things things like this or scandals, and it can
Speaker 1: ruin reputations and you can make like very difficult for Rory.
Speaker 1: So it's a real conversation to have. For sure, I
Speaker 1: like them, but now we're just in a bigger mess.
Speaker 1: Like it's just a mess with them. But okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: watch with the watch with the twirling of the chest
Speaker 1: here that that's that put me over the That was
Speaker 1: the part for something that was a bridge too far
Speaker 1: for me. For some reason. When they're in that head,
Speaker 1: all I could stare at was like, oh, oh, how
Speaker 1: does this Why is this so creepy? I feel like
Speaker 1: I like them together, and till that scene, I feel
Speaker 1: like it just ruined the whole thing, and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: on that page of like, well, I don't like them
Speaker 1: together anymore. I don't know. I can't you know what,
Speaker 1: You're right, I can't figure it out either, because it's
Speaker 1: like they're two incredibly attractive people, right the both of them.
Speaker 1: They kind of look alike, don't they. Is it because
Speaker 1: they look like brother and sister? Maybe I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I know I'm reaching here, but it's like they're both
Speaker 1: dark haired, and I don't know, but I think this
Speaker 1: is something that like we really do need to keep
Speaker 1: trying to figure out because something about it bugged all
Speaker 1: of us. So I don't think we're wrong. Something about
Speaker 1: it was was cringe e. I don't know, gaggy, I
Speaker 1: don't that naked. It's just the way she opened up
Speaker 1: her arms to him and like, come to me, all right,
Speaker 1: and here's the thing, here's what's bothering me so much.
Speaker 1: Luke the way he looked at Rachel. Obviously we know
Speaker 1: the same thing happened between Luke and Rachel that happened
Speaker 1: between Maxim. More like we know they were all training
Speaker 1: for the Olympics. That being said, I didn't cringe when
Speaker 1: Luke kind of gave that look to Rachel. It was
Speaker 1: sort of like sweet, I was a little jealous. I
Speaker 1: felt bad for lore Lie, like it was all good,
Speaker 1: whereas with Max and lorea Lie, something is making me like, look,
Speaker 1: it's it's because it's not opposites attracting, it's the same attracting.
Speaker 1: So there's something a little incongruous with it. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We have to keep figuring it out. So okay, before
Speaker 1: we get into pop culture. I do have one mystery
Speaker 1: thing I noticed that I won't reveal because we'll keep
Speaker 1: talking about it because I want you guys to go
Speaker 1: back and try and figure it out. In the scene
Speaker 1: where Luke and Lorela are discussing the pancakes and the
Speaker 1: chocolate chips and the whin, there is a misspelling, and
Speaker 1: I want to know if it was intentional, Like I
Speaker 1: don't want to give too much away, because I want
Speaker 1: everybody to go back and like look and analyze, or
Speaker 1: if it was actually just like whoever made the thing
Speaker 1: in the diner misspelled something. Okay, so we have to
Speaker 1: go back and watch it. You have to. Everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: have to kind of watch it again and see if
Speaker 1: they can discover it. Because it was super subtle, and
Speaker 1: then I was like, why just tell us what it is. No,
Speaker 1: it's so much more fun if we wait till next week.
Speaker 1: Keep it going. It's called a tease. And you're you know,
Speaker 1: he just needed to toss her. Just just just get
Speaker 1: out of here, girl, you know, keep get back where,
Speaker 1: get back to stars Hollow with that stuff. What are
Speaker 1: you doing? You know this this tiny apartment too. I'm
Speaker 1: the Hartford guy. Yeah, right, ground Flora. I mean, so
Speaker 1: does Luke. Luke's got a diner and he's got his dignity. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's you know the mystery of uh the Luke, Laureli
Speaker 1: and Max triangle. Oh my god, well it's it's I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to call him my old math professor at Rutgers.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he can help me figure it out. We
Speaker 1: create an equation for it. Um. Anyway, we'll be back. Uh,
Speaker 1: we'll be back after these words, everybody, And what are
Speaker 1: we going to get into when we get back? What
Speaker 1: you want to we were all going to wallow? All right,
Speaker 1: say in a minute, yeah, okay, everybody, we're back. We're
Speaker 1: going to discuss a rory wallowing. And she did not
Speaker 1: want a wallet. She didn't want Yeah, she was avoiding
Speaker 1: the wallow, you know, the getting beaten with the wallowing stick.
Speaker 1: She was holding it at arms length, and lor I
Speaker 1: really wanted her to wallop. Do we do we remember
Speaker 1: our own childhood teenage wallowing? Did we did we have
Speaker 1: a wallow? Did you ever wall a couple of months ago?
Speaker 1: Anyone wallows when they have a breakup? I hate wallowing,
Speaker 1: but you kind of have to. Oh, I got I
Speaker 1: got dumped by a girl. What was my junior in
Speaker 1: high school? And it was a rainy day when she
Speaker 1: told me, and I walked home in the rain in
Speaker 1: my hoodie. I got soaked as and I wallowed And
Speaker 1: how long till you were over it? I took that
Speaker 1: one pretty hard, I don't know, strapped on the guitar
Speaker 1: and just wailed. The way didn't take long. I was fine.
Speaker 1: So I read this book when I was in college, Okay,
Speaker 1: and here's what it said. I've never actually done it,
Speaker 1: but I feel like people should try it because it
Speaker 1: made sense. So let's say you go through a breakup,
Speaker 1: and you know how like when you're in a breakup,
Speaker 1: you always think about the person. So Roy's like Dean Dean.
Speaker 1: Everything's Dean that's why she's like getting rid of the
Speaker 1: rooster and getting rid of the sweater and the fancy
Speaker 1: dress and all the stuff. Right, So this book said,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to get a bucket of ice, and you
Speaker 1: stick your feet in the bucket of ice, and then
Speaker 1: you you think, you do your wallowing. So you think
Speaker 1: about the person. You're like Dean, you know, I loved him.
Speaker 1: He gave me the bracelet, he built me a car,
Speaker 1: like you know, he said he liked my sweater and
Speaker 1: my eyes look nice. And you just think about all
Speaker 1: that stuff while your feet are in the ice bucket,
Speaker 1: and you train your brain to think of pain when
Speaker 1: you think of that person. For God's sake, it was
Speaker 1: just some podiatrist who was trying to drum up business
Speaker 1: for Froy's treating frost bite. That's all. It was taking
Speaker 1: advantage of people's pain. Yeah, so when you think of
Speaker 1: this is what the technique is. So that when Rory
Speaker 1: thinks of Dean, she will remember the ice and how
Speaker 1: uncomfortable it was, and then she won't like him anymore.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the human brain, right, it's a
Speaker 1: wonderful thing. I felt like that was a good idea,
Speaker 1: actually makes sense. You know, I think I want to
Speaker 1: try that. It might as well. I'm going to try
Speaker 1: that tonight with a couple of people. Tag us in
Speaker 1: your ice videos on Instagram, sitting there feeding a bucket
Speaker 1: of ice, not thinking of you anymore. You know who
Speaker 1: you are, Riley? How do you wallow? Um? My wallowing
Speaker 1: process is the same for every breakup. I either go
Speaker 1: through the full series of Friends or I watched Dirty Dancing. Wow, yep,
Speaker 1: and I sing along. Okay, First of all, the Dirty
Speaker 1: Dancing more efficient. It's two hours. The whole Friends thing,
Speaker 1: that's hundreds of hours. How many episodes is that? Friends?
Speaker 1: They and all they all run together? Yeah? They did
Speaker 1: ten years, right, at least they did twenty four a
Speaker 1: year they did. That's two Watch the Dirty Dancing, for
Speaker 1: god's sake. Go for Dirty Dancing, carried a watermelon. I'll
Speaker 1: get you through that a lot. But now I will
Speaker 1: try ice. Yeah, try my ice things. See how that goes?
Speaker 1: All right? So what do we do? We're gonna do. Uh,
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little pop culture. I'm Riley, and
Speaker 1: this is your pop culture. So lore Lie is talking
Speaker 1: to Rory, and Rory's really wondering if Dean hadn't the
Speaker 1: breakup and like already planned out? And Roy says, how
Speaker 1: do you know? And lor Lie says, because I've read
Speaker 1: every Nancy Dream mystery, every ever written. So many women
Speaker 1: have played the part of Nancy Drew, from Pamela Sue
Speaker 1: Martin in m Roberts in two thousand seven. Powerful women
Speaker 1: like Hillary Clinton, Barbara Walters, and Sandra Day O'Connor have
Speaker 1: cited Nancy Drew as their favorite character, and Playboy once
Speaker 1: featured a sexy Nancy Drew cover. Whoah, They are walking
Speaker 1: through the alley and Lorala says, yeah, you know, honey,
Speaker 1: trash doesn't actually talk unless it is in Sesame Street.
Speaker 1: This is a reference to Oscar the Grouch, who has
Speaker 1: been a character on Sesame Street since nineteen Oscar was
Speaker 1: voiced by Carol Spinney, who also voiced Big Bird. In
Speaker 1: Oscar's first words on Sesame Street work don't bang, mom
Speaker 1: My can go away? Could you give up to us?
Speaker 1: In a bit more of an Oscar the Grouch, I
Speaker 1: feel like I only know Cookie Monster is Oscar like
Speaker 1: higher give us some effort here you can do it,
Speaker 1: as Cookie Monster, Just give us something. Don't burn on
Speaker 1: my car? You miss you. You left out two words
Speaker 1: you have to say, go away the bang on. I
Speaker 1: can't go away. Go ahead, don't bring on my current
Speaker 1: nice well well struck you know animal from the Muppets.
Speaker 1: That's what it sounded like that time. Oh god, it
Speaker 1: was fun puppet. I can't breathe keep going. Next we
Speaker 1: have Luke says goodbye to Dean in many different languages
Speaker 1: when after they have their fight, and Laura I says,
Speaker 1: can we get off the Small World Ride and get
Speaker 1: to cooking? Please? So The Small World Ride first opened
Speaker 1: in Disneyland in nineteen sixty six. It featured twenty nine
Speaker 1: different countries with two nine what they call dull children,
Speaker 1: and the featured song plays around twelve hundred times during
Speaker 1: a sixteen hour operating day at Disney Park, which would
Speaker 1: give anyone a headache. Ah Rory is listing off all
Speaker 1: the wonderful things they can do instead of thinking of Dean,
Speaker 1: and Rory says, we could stuff our purses full of
Speaker 1: sour patch kids and milk deads and go see the
Speaker 1: Stars Hall of Elementary School production of Who's Afraid of
Speaker 1: Virginia Wolf. This is a play by Edward Albe first
Speaker 1: stage in October of nineteen sixty two. It was later
Speaker 1: recreated in Tonight in nineteen sixty six film starring Elizabeth Taylor.
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor gained nearly thirty pounds to play the role
Speaker 1: of a middle aged wife just for this movie, and
Speaker 1: the play has been parodied on TV by The Simpsons,
Speaker 1: American Dad, and Saturday Night Live Again. In the Alley,
Speaker 1: Rory makes Laurelai walk through all the garbage, and Laura
Speaker 1: la says, no, this is good, This is like G Jane,
Speaker 1: but we get to keep our hair. So G A
Speaker 1: Jane is nine seven American war drama featuring Demi Moore.
Speaker 1: Jane Moore's character underwent grueling, grueling military training in the film,
Speaker 1: and the actress actually shaved her head to get into
Speaker 1: the character's mindset. Mortenson was great in that film. He
Speaker 1: was your commanding officer. I forgot that he was in it.
Speaker 1: It was a weird flop. It didn't do well. Really, no,
Speaker 1: it did not very watchable film. I have to just
Speaker 1: give it another gu His performance was it was Ridley Scott, right,
Speaker 1: Ridley Scott. It was supposed to be like huge, but
Speaker 1: then it just was not the same as Ishtar did
Speaker 1: we do the record in the history of history. That
Speaker 1: is a perfect segue until our next pop culture. So
Speaker 1: this one is jam packed. Laura I suggest all the
Speaker 1: movies where he could be watching while she wallows. Laura
Speaker 1: I says, one day, one day of pizza and pajamas,
Speaker 1: all Rent, Love Story, and The Champ, an affair to remember,
Speaker 1: an Ishtar love story. Young young people don't even know
Speaker 1: what ishtar is, and they all need no idea. They
Speaker 1: all need to watch It wasn't it Dustin Hoff in
Speaker 1: the Desert. Yeah. The next film she suggests is Love Story,
Speaker 1: which is nineteen seventies American romantic drama. The film is
Speaker 1: considered one of the most romantic by the Film Institute,
Speaker 1: on number nine on the list, and is one of
Speaker 1: the highest grossing films of all time. The next film
Speaker 1: she's suggests is The Champ, which is a fighting movie
Speaker 1: and very much not really a wallowing movie. It is
Speaker 1: a film later remade in nineteen seventy nine starring legend
Speaker 1: John Voyd, Angelina Jolie's dad right, and it is a
Speaker 1: wallowing movie because it's so sad. Chah. Actually, over two
Speaker 1: thousand children were interviewed for the role of t j
Speaker 1: Flynn played by Ricky Schroeder. Lastly, We Have an Affair
Speaker 1: to Remember a nineteen fifty seven American romance film directed
Speaker 1: by Leo McCarry and starring Carrie Grant and Deborah Kerr.
Speaker 1: There's a very funny scene and Sleepless in Seattle where
Speaker 1: they talk about an affair to Remember. Who has seen it?
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's the best because Rita Wilson is like,
Speaker 1: she's related to Tom Hanks, but she's not married to
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks since listened Seattle obviously, but she's telling him
Speaker 1: about a fair to remember. Oh my god, everybody needs
Speaker 1: to watch that scene. It's so hilarious and she's like
Speaker 1: crying and all the boys in the scene are like
Speaker 1: totally making fun of her. That's so good. The last
Speaker 1: movie Laurea I suggest is Old Yeller. She says, so
Speaker 1: should we rent Old Yeller two? Or is that just
Speaker 1: a guy's crying movie. Old Yeller was made in seven,
Speaker 1: and Disney actually recycles their sounds so you can hear
Speaker 1: the same growling noises made in Lady in the Tramp
Speaker 1: and Old Yeller's death is one of the most tearful
Speaker 1: scenes in cinematic history. You can't not cry. LAURAA gives
Speaker 1: an absurd reaction to everyone being up so early in town.
Speaker 1: Laura I says jump back, and Rory is very confused
Speaker 1: by that reference. Laurel I says. Kevin bacon foot loose
Speaker 1: reaction to the no dancing and town rule is revealed
Speaker 1: to him by Chris Penn, brother to Seawan. Stage to
Speaker 1: All foot Loose is four American musical drama starring Kevin Bacon,
Speaker 1: Sarah Jessica Parker, and Sean Penn's brother Chris Penn. The
Speaker 1: film was later recreated into I Was An Eleven. Producers
Speaker 1: actually wanted Tom Cruise to play the role of Wren,
Speaker 1: but there was a scheduling conflict. Like we said, Loria
Speaker 1: I mentioned the iconic jump back, but arguably one of
Speaker 1: the most notable Kevin Bacon quotes is Let's Dance. At
Speaker 1: the very end. While it was a great movie, the
Speaker 1: plot was very odd setting place in a town that
Speaker 1: was the band dancing. But why did nobody question this
Speaker 1: while they were enjoying it? It made Kevin Bacon's career.
Speaker 1: And what's your favorite Kevin Bacon movie? I don't know
Speaker 1: what's what's your favorite Kevin Bacon. I was supposed to
Speaker 1: do a movie with Meryl Streep and he, but Curtis
Speaker 1: Hansen gave him the role over me. What was that
Speaker 1: that was called David Strathane, you know The River Wild?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a good movie Kevin Bacon, and
Speaker 1: he did a good job. He's a good actor. I
Speaker 1: like him in the X Men movies. Oh, I know,
Speaker 1: pardon me, Apollo thirteen. I freaking love him in Apolo thirteen.
Speaker 1: Oh and a Few Good Men? What am I even
Speaker 1: talking about? A Few Good Men is probably my favorite
Speaker 1: Kevin Bacon movie because you know what, that's when I
Speaker 1: saw another side of him that was in that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Animal House, Oh, Animal House, good one. Ryan, Right, he's
Speaker 1: been around forever. It's like a teenager, wasn't he? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Good one. That is it for a pop culture this week? Okay,
Speaker 1: my favorite line. I really wanted it to be Turnaround
Speaker 1: bad Boy, that Luke says, turn around bad Boy, but
Speaker 1: I changed it to this one. I never liked him.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what it was. Something something about
Speaker 1: the shape of his forehead, his height, or the floppy hairstyle. Actually, yes,
Speaker 1: I think it was the floppy hairstyle. Thank you so much, Kirk.
Speaker 1: My favorite line is from Dean after the fight and
Speaker 1: he says, obviously you're not exactly known as the town
Speaker 1: crack up towards Luke Danielle. So my favorite line is
Speaker 1: from Paris when she says she's been here five minutes
Speaker 1: and already has a date. I've been going to the
Speaker 1: school for nine years and I'm the French soda monitor.
Speaker 1: Oh that's my favorite line. You stole the French soda monitor.
Speaker 1: I thought that was that was a great line. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's my line too. I think we've covered. Okay, what's
Speaker 1: the required reading? Nancy Drew by Carolyn keene M. So
Speaker 1: let's get onto people. Yeah, Nancy Drew, I know I'll
Speaker 1: be doing that tonight and next week the third lower Lie.
Speaker 1: Next week is the third Laurel lie. Have have you
Speaker 1: seen it yet? We haven't seen it yet, have we.
Speaker 1: I might have peeked at it because I was curious.
Speaker 1: We're going to be interviewing the third lower line and
Speaker 1: ross the iconic. This is Cunney Ham. I couldn't help myself.
Speaker 1: I did peek at it? Did you peek at it?
Speaker 1: I did a little bit, not a lot. No, I
Speaker 1: just I just wanted to. It's hard not to because
Speaker 1: Netflix rolls you into the next one. You all week,
Speaker 1: they send you emails, they things pop up, and you're like, Scott,
Speaker 1: you're gonna complete your one? You know, I know your
Speaker 1: feet are up on the I know you're drinking a
Speaker 1: I know you're chomping on some pork rins. What are
Speaker 1: you doing when you're watching golf against Are you gonna complete?
Speaker 1: Come on, complete it. We're over here on Netflix. We're
Speaker 1: we're waiting for you. Get ready for the third lower
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