WEBVTT - Mark and Nick Tartaglia Talk Sovereignty 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.480 Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Mark Moss Show, 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.680 where we talk about the decentralized revolution, talking about the 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:09.200 way the world is changing. If you're not aware the 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:11.920 world's changing, If you're not aware, you must be sleeping. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.360 Because obviously the world we're going into is not the 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:16.279 same as the world that we're leaving behind. And I 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.760 like to look at it through the lens of politics, finance, 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.320 and technology to make sense, to make context of what's 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.079 going on, but of course, more importantly, to understand what 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.840 we should be doing to stay ahead of this, to 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:33.720 survive and thrive this, and of course technology, This is 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:35.880 the thing that changes the world, changes the way that 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.000 we organize, and that technology that I like to focus 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.519 on right now is the decentralizing and technology of bitcoin. Now, 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.920 I like to bring to you some new education to 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.280 help you think through things differently, to understand things differently, 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.040 hopefully more critically, of the information that we get, some 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.640 of the latest breaking news headlines so you know what's 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.200 going on, and of course some interesting guests that you 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.200 don't have to listen to my opinion all the time. 0:00:58.400 --> 0:00:59.880 And that's what I have for you today. I am 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.200 in the studio with Nick Tartaglia. He is a host 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.880 of a podcast called New gen Mindset Pod. You should 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.840 check it out. But Nick, thanks so much for joining us. 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.400 I appreciate it. Happy to be here. Nick. You were 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:17.280 explaining to me that your podcast, New Generational Mindset focuses 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:21.240 on two things, wealth and sovereignty, and I want to 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.720 break those down. I like to use the word sovereignty 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.319 a lot. I use financial sovereignty a lot because I 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.080 think it's pretty self descriptive. But a lot of people 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.560 may don't understand what it is. So let's break that 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.640 down first if we can. So, what does sovereignty mean? 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.280 So if I look at it from my standpoint or 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.720 I go back to the traditional meaning from the classical liberalism, 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.360 probably a period of time. Sovereignty from me is a 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:47.119 natural perspective that I am responsible entirely from my own pursuits, 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.480 in my own outcome in life. I wish not to 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.320 delegate that task to any state or other individual. I 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.160 want to be responsible for the way I end my 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.600 life in this world. So I need to build wealth. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.560 I need to build relationships and networks in order to 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:02.919 ensure that my sovereignty is protected and sustain in this world. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.080 And that's how I see. It's from an individual standpoint. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.880 It doesn't require the collective, although the collective can help 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.320 maintain its individual sovereignty. But sovereignty is an individual pursuit. 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.400 And how what can I do or what actions can 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.000 I put forth in order to ensure that I do 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.079 not need to delegate my responsibility or for my life 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:26.200 to anybody else? Do you think that's a spectrum? I mean, 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.920 to be truly sovereign? Does that mean then you have 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.760 to make your own clothes? So yes, I exactly what 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.360 you mean. Now. So when I take the meaning of sovereignty, 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.600 I take it more from an I take more of 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.080 it from a standpoint that I am willing to do 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.000 what I need to do for myself, but I'm willing 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.160 to delegate certain tasks that others can do more optimally 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.640 than me. But where I do not believe that is 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.640 the cases in terms of my finances and my wealth. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.079 That is something that I will not delegate nor wish 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.960 to delegate, because to control my wealth or my finances 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.840 is to control my abilities to eat, to my ability 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.799 to save, to retire, to go anywhere I want, or 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:06.200 to buy any asset class I wish. So in terms 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.520 of everything else, of course I'm dependent on others in 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.359 a collective because it requires me to delegate certain responsive 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.920 or certain tasks in order to optimize my own pursuits. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:19.440 But specifically in terms of finances and wealth, that is 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:25.400 something that is that is not somebody else's responsibility. So 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.840 when you talk about delegating things like making clothes or 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.200 growing food or something like that, like it's okay to 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.200 designate that or delegate that out to somebody else because 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.600 they're not controlling me through that. Exactly, if I want 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.560 to buy clothes from this person, that person has no 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.920 control over me because I was supposed to. You still 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.680 have options, and you still have optionality, and worst case, 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.839 you hire someone to make it, you go somewhere else, 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.840 you go online, you shop elsewhere. There are options. But 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.920 the more you remove those options, the more self reliant 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.880 you become. So yeah, control would be a huge component. 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.360 Those are things that you cannot truly control my sovereignty 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:05.160 through those things, So then you're basically wanting to sovereignty 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.840 would be I like to think of actually one of 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.720 my favorite authors, Fahyak, his seminal book he wrote which 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.360 is the constitution of liberty, and in that book he 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:24.039 defined liberty as freedom from coercion. Freedom from coercion, that 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:28.840 would be liberty. I like that definition, So freedom from 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:33.120 any constraint that would hold me back from being able 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.479 to choose the direction that I want to lose, that lie, 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:38.920 as long as I don't peed on somebody else's life, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.120 let me live the life that I can to the 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:46.279 best and the fullest I can. And you think controling 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:47.919 your money is the best way to it's one of 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.320 you know, my relationship. My money determines that the way 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.080 I can plan for my future, the type of assets 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.920 I can purchase, the people I can how I can 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.159 take care of my family and friends around me. And 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.400 so you know, to delegate that responsibly is simply saying that, well, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.120 others now have control over your life and your future, 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.880 because if they lose it, if they mismanage it, if 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.920 they misallocate it, if they waste it, well you are 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:16.480 dependent on that, on those dynamics. So if you're going 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.800 to create a sovereignty as an individual, if you want 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.280 to become more financially responsible for yourself, you know it 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.840 requires a level of level of growth in order to 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.200 understand the world you're in in order to make sure 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.080 you allocate your capital properly and that you mitigate your 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.240 risks by understanding the Mac rule, the Mac world in 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.920 which you operate. From an American to a Canadian here, 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.560 you're a Canadian, right born reads the more so from 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:46.120 a Canadian to an American here. Obviously, the entire world 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:52.640 was massively impacted by the pandemic massively, and you know, 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.239 many parts of the world might have been more free 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.120 during that period of time than the United States, which 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:02.400 is supposedly the land of the Free. How Ever, Canada 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.160 seemed to try to be on par with North Korea 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:10.200 pretty much. We have, you know, your prime dictator Justin 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:14.200 Trudeau on video. I've used clips of him praising China 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.359 and praising their communism because it allows them to do 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.920 things he's not able to do. We obviously saw him 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.520 taking actions that were basically on par with China. So 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.600 how how does it work trying to remain a sovereign 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:31.960 individual under some sort of like a regime or a 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.080 political environment like that. So personally for me, as he 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:39.200 goes like during the the pandemic and that whole period 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.200 of time, you know, we were locked down. We can 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:43.720 go out after a period of time. We can go 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.360 out after eight pm, we can see people. A lot 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.400 of it was just you know, being locked up and 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.800 just indulging the internet and online. So for me, the 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.320 biggest way to kind of maintain my sovereignty or to 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:58.320 strengthen it was to kind of focus on my intellectual development. 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.320 So podcasting was a huge interesting because on a weekly basis, 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:03.920 I got to have incredible conversations with people around the world. 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.640 I got to watch and observe market forces at a 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.280 level I've never seen before because by again, we spent 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.960 hours just watching the world move and clash and behave. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.960 And I got to start writing a lot more. And 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:22.440 that that heavily helped me develop my ability to articulate 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.320 and observe things at a deeper level than I did before. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:30.080 So it was more or it's more about currently an 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.920 intellectual developmental process because of the fact that it you know, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.320 you have inflation rampaging here. There's not many ways to 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:40.440 protect your wealth. Taxes are growing up here. So if 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.560 I can still focus on building my intellect and building 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.200 relationships externally of this environment, I can still find a 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.600 way to maintain or protect my sovereignty down the line, 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.720 and then the process, of course is still making sure 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.480 I allocate to an extent certain capital, you know, on 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.680 certain play asset classes that can help me get out 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.560 of this situation, whether I leave or stay. Although granted 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.720 I'd rather leave this country. But so these are type 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.280 of things that I'm starting to focus on, you know, 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.480 making sure which asked classes. I'm going to focus on 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.880 my writing and my intellectual development, and those things help 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.200 me feel more secure in my sovereignty. If you're just 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.880 tuning in, you're listening to the Mark Moa show, We're 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.600 sitting down with Nick Tartaglia. We're talking about wealth, we're 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.200 talking about sovereignty, and we're going to get some ideas 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.000 of what you can do to increase both of those things. 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.720 You know, I want to come back to the point 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:36.120 about wealth and money specifically, because without wealth and money, 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:40.520 you're currentstrained by your circumstances. So you're not constrained by people, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:44.440 but you're constrained by your circumstances, and so that's a 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.800 different type of tyranny that most people don't consider. So 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.440 we'll come back to that. If you're just tune in, 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.880 like I said, you're listening to the markma Show talking 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.800 with Nick Tartaglia. We're talking about, of course, each and 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.920 every week, the decentralized revolution, the way the world is changing, 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.600 and you need to be on top of this because 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.319 if it's changing, you need to be changing. To be 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:03.960 back with a whole lot more in a minute, you 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.120 don't want to miss it, So don't go away, we'll 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.320 be right back. All right, welcome back. If you're just 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.000 tune in, you're listening to the Mark Moss Show. We're 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.560 talking about, of course, each and every week, the decentralized Revolution. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.800 But this week I am in the studio with Nick 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:22.760 Tartaglia and we're talking about wealth, sovereignty and living under 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.560 the Canadian regime. We're talking about that for a minute 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.720 and the going back to that for a minute. So 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.520 you lived under under that, like I said, from the US, 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:37.760 looking up, I was like dang, Like both Canada and Australia, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.240 I'm like, man, why would you stay there? Why would 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.199 you live under that when you don't have to? Why 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.839 why would anybody choose to live under that when they 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.559 could go somewhere else? Right now, I think you highlighted 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:55.200 that part of that in that last question before we 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:56.480 took the breaks, I want to dig into that a 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.360 little bit. So while that happened, you were locked down, 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:03.160 you couldn't even your house. You chose to work on 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:08.240 your writing, your intellect and building up that some relationships, podcasting. 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.520 I want to come back to that. But basically the 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:17.120 point was is that you weren't really able to leave 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.280 that environment and go to a different environment because you 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:24.440 didn't have the resources to do that. So without wealth, 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:28.840 without money, without the ability to spend or use your money, 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.000 you don't actually have any freedom. Yeah, like I was 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.040 saying before we went on the break, you know, I 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.880 look at like freedom and like freedom is freedom from 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:43.520 both in any type of circumstance that would prevent you 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:45.240 from making a decision that you want to make. And 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.960 so obviously a person, so you can have tyranny of government, right, 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.480 a person could prevent you from doing something that you want. 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.680 But also just your own circumstance could be tyranny of health. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.880 Right your health doesn't allow you to do that, it could, 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.440 which is why we say health is wealth. Could also 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.520 be tyranny of your own wealth, meaning or lack thereof right. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:06.480 So I don't have the money to travel. I don't 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.160 have the money to move. I don't have the money 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.200 to buy a passport. I don't have the money to 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:17.079 do whatever. Right, So is that some of I mean, 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:18.800 did I frame that up? That kind of how you 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:20.960 look at that, because you know, like as a human 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.440 being who believes to be, who wants or wants to 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.559 believe in the idea of sovereignty as an individual thing 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:26.840 is a lot of governments, or a lot of states, 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.400 or a lot of people. They always talk about the 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.040 sovereignty of a nation, but the sovereignty of a nation 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.439 as a whole just means that those or at the center, 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.959 the central authority who dictates or controls that ecosystem or 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.520 that society, it has its own sovereignty to do what 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.840 it wants. That's not how it perceives sovereignty. It's not 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.680 at a collective level sovereignty. It's an individual level. So 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:48.840 the way I see it is that I'm not I 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.640 do not want to dictate my life based on man 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.480 made laws. I want to dictate my life based on 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.880 natural laws and natural circumstances that I need to mitigate 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.520 and circumvent. In order to do that, I need to 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.680 understand the parameters and the dynamics that allowed me to 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.000 thrive in this reality. And regardless of what, regardless of 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.600 which ecosystem I am born or raised in, or live in, 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.920 I must understand it in order to thrive in it. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.880 And if I cannot thrive in it, then I must 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.640 change my circumstances. In order to do that, I must 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.760 understand how to do so. And that's where the intellectual 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.160 process comes in. You have to understand your the world 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.920 around you, or else there's no development should that point 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:29.080 that you're talking about. I just put on Twitter earlier today, 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.160 an hour or two ago. If you're not following me 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.600 on Twitter, you should just at one Mark Moss. But 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.360 I put a quote from Ronald Reagan's nineteen eighty one 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.959 inaugural address. So he was this is January of eighty one, 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.480 he was being brought in as President of the United States, 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.520 and he said something that's that's used a lot. I 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.920 I was looking up this quote, which is government's not 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:52.439 the solution, Government's the problem. But I was trying to 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.080 find what's the context that he's staying that under. So 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.680 I went and looked up the whole speech and I 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.800 read it and I clipped himtuff out of there, But 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.640 he was talking about inflation at the time, and he 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.240 was saying, the inflation is not fixed by the government, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.120 it's caused by by the government. But what he said, 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.760 as he said, from time to time, we've been tempted 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.920 to believe that society has become too complex to be 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:21.120 managed by self rule, and that government by an elite 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:25.440 group is superior to government for by and of the people. 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.280 So kind of to your point, we're not sovereign individuals, 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.880 the government sovereign to do what they want. We're not 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.959 sovereign sovereign and so he was addressing that in this 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.600 address here in nineteen eighty one. We've been tempted to 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.440 believe that society has become too complex to be managed 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.120 by individuals. It's too complex, he said, you should not 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.400 We don't need to learn, we don't need to understand. 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.679 Delegate that task as somebody else, and your sovereignty will 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.840 will be protected because you have a sovereign nation of 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:58.199 a central authority who knows best. Yeah, And then he 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:02.079 goes on to say, but if no one among us 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.880 is capable of governing himself, then who among us has 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.800 the capacity to govern something else, get your own bed 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.240 in order. It's just like boom, yes, exactly, like none 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.520 of us are smart enough to do this on our own, 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.439 so then you're smart enough exactly. You forget that the 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.360 central authorities there are also human beings. There are no 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.640 different than any one of us. The only thing is 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.160 we seem to assume that the moment the enter that 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.000 social entity, which is the government, which is no different 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.560 than any other social entity, that automatically it assumes the 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.520 responsibility to no best and to do what's best, and 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:38.320 that regardless of what it does, it holds no accountability, 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.440 and that it is the only thing that bestows upon 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:45.080 us the reality of the economy, which again is a fallacy, 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.480 since the economy is here regardless of whether the state 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:51.000 exists or not. It is a natural reality given to us. Therefore, 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.800 it is up to you to ensure your own outcome, 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.440 and that's where the sovereignty comes in. So now let's 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.440 go back to what you said. You know, you were 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:03.280 in lockdown down, you couldn't leave unfortunately, so you decided 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.360 to pour into your own self and to build up 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.240 your own tool kit, right, your own skill set. Why 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.680 did you choose that, like why is that? Why? Because 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.760 I was someone I always enjoyed going out and talking 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.640 to people and being around people and having conversations and 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.720 just you know, being outside and doing stuff. I didn't 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.640 like sitting down and doing nothing. And the moment I 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.800 was put in that environment, I felt as if I 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.960 was going to be very unproductive and it was going 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.160 to waste a lot of my time. And again, if 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.360 you go back to the classical princes of principles of 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.120 a lot of Austrians and classical economists, a lot of 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.720 things like there's nothing more permanent to temporary government programs, 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.000 and you know, whenever the government takes control, it has 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.160 a hard time letting go. So in my mind when 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:45.560 all this was going down, I was like, I don't 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.080 think this is gonna last two weeks, as they said. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:48.720 I don't think it's gonna last a couple of months. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:50.560 I think this is going to be something that's gonna 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.280 be reoccurring for a long period of time. And so 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.720 that was bothering me heavily mentally and intellectually. So I 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.600 said I needed to find a way to put my 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.520 energy into something else that never did before. And the 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.200 only thing I could think of was starting to write. 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.400 So I started writing blogs from my podcast and that 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.520 turned into writing one book on system dynamics and trying 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.760 to understand the world I was in and trying to 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:18.400 understand the problems heading our way as a millennial who's 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.120 looking ahead. And then after I decided to write another 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.360 book after going down kind of like an Austrian rabbit hole, 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.520 an economic rabbit hole on economics, to kind of continue 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.080 the work of those guys of the Austrians and everything. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:36.040 And I thought it was the only solution because I 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.280 didn't want to feel unproductive. Just watching TV for two 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.080 years is doing nothing. I thought I was gonna be 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.120 the biggest waste of my life. So I wanted to 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.120 be something. I wanted to be proud of myself, regardless 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.240 of the situation I was in. Yeah, so I mean 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.160 it was I was definitely about being productive to me 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:50.520 from the outside looking in. And that's why I was 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.400 asking the question, is it's like what you also did, though, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:59.560 is you increased your knowledge, which also increased your skills 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:04.800 or your skill set. And the more skills you have, 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.119 the more knowledge you have, potentially the more sovereign you 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.520 can be because now you have tools and skills that 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:16.679 can allow you to make income remotely or lockdown or 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.920 something like that, as opposed to you didn't have those 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.000 skills before. If you're just tune in, you're listening to 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:25.000 the markmas Show talking about the Decentralized Revolution and how 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.600 to become more sovereign. With Nick Tartaglia, we're talking about 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.520 how to deal with with with tyranny, how to become 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:33.600 more sovereign. We got a whole lot more to cover, 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.239 and we come back. Don't go away. I'm gonna be 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.960 right back, all right, welcome back. If you're just tune in, 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.160 you're listening to the Mark Moas Show. We're talking about 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.040 the decentralized Revolution each and every week, of course, and 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.520 I'm in the studio with Nick Tartaglia. We're talking about 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:52.720 dealing with tyranny and becoming more sovereign. So, yeah, you 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:57.159 increase your skills, you increase your knowledge, and now you 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.720 have more knowledge and you have more skills to go 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.720 create money, whether that be podcasting or writing writing books, 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:05.520 writing blogs. I mean, there's so many things that you 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.720 could do with that, which I think is which I 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:09.720 think is super important. It's one thing that I see, 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.719 you know, so many people. They take this victim mentality 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.840 where it's like, oh, what can I do? The States 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.679 is going to do do whatever they want with me, 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.199 have their way with me, and I'm just in my 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:21.880 house and I can't do anything, so I might as 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.280 well just eat Cheetos and watch Netflix or something. Valy, 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.119 I don't know if you have that in again, Oh, 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.960 I mean during you saw during Canada here we were 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.840 locking down gems, but we had here, ironically, because I 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.080 live in Quebec. So let's say, let's I'm gonna contextualize 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.440 specifically in my province. So the place that I live 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.840 in the state controls the liquor stores, controls the marijuana stores, 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.919 controls the gambling. But they locked down the gems and 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.080 they left everything else open. So you had to rise 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.680 in alcohol consumption, rise in drug consumption rise, and gambling. 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.600 You had all those all while people are isolated, and 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.800 by default humans are social animals. They're not isolated animals 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:59.080 that live alone. They thrive in social environments. So we 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.920 restricted our natural mechanics as human beings, and we fed 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:07.439 the ourselves all kinds of stimulants and distractions, all while 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.080 believing it was the natural given right of the state 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.399 to do this. So I think we've we've been on 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.800 this trend for a long time, and I think we're 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.159 starting to see most people, or a lot of people anyway, 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.720 are starting to see how dangerous these ideas are and 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.160 we give the state this much power. I guess two 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.480 part question kind of one do you see do you 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.360 see like maybe in Canada, maybe in some of the 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.080 harsher areas of Canada, was this like a maybe a 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.400 waking up moment for a lot of people. So if 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.680 if the way I see it is, I think, well 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.320 one Alberta is one example where I think they've kind 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.520 of woken up because you have the new premier there. 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.639 Her name is Danielle and she's been a real go 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.360 getter who's been getting a lot of tension and fighting 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.040 back against what the liberal government's been doing at a 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:59.439 federal level. And then even from myself here, I've noticed 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.240 a lot of people will have started to regret their 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.040 submission to these forces and starting to question why it 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:10.200 is that, why it is that their life is so 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.760 void of dignity whenever the government tells them what to do. 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.679 And there's a lot of more curiosity, people willing to 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.600 have a conversation. Before people were afraid to have those conversations. 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.879 But it's become more open. Well, I mean to a 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:25.840 certain extent again, because you have a lot of like 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:27.959 March Show for example, where I'm from, there's a lot 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.040 of liberals, or you can go through the schooling system. 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.720 They've been shut down left and right because of protests 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.760 and for liberal progressive purposes. But there is a force 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.520 that's starting to understand and wake up that there's there's 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:43.040