1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Mark Moss Show, 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: where we talk about the decentralized revolution, talking about the 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: way the world is changing. If you're not aware the 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: world's changing, If you're not aware, you must be sleeping. 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Because obviously the world we're going into is not the 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: same as the world that we're leaving behind. And I 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: like to look at it through the lens of politics, finance, 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: and technology to make sense, to make context of what's 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: going on, but of course, more importantly, to understand what 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: we should be doing to stay ahead of this, to 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: survive and thrive this, and of course technology, This is 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: the thing that changes the world, changes the way that 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: we organize, and that technology that I like to focus 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: on right now is the decentralizing and technology of bitcoin. Now, 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: I like to bring to you some new education to 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: help you think through things differently, to understand things differently, 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: hopefully more critically, of the information that we get, some 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: of the latest breaking news headlines so you know what's 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: going on, and of course some interesting guests that you 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: don't have to listen to my opinion all the time. 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: And that's what I have for you today. I am 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: in the studio with Nick Tartaglia. He is a host 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: of a podcast called New gen Mindset Pod. You should 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: check it out. But Nick, thanks so much for joining us. 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Happy to be here. Nick. You were 26 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: explaining to me that your podcast, New Generational Mindset focuses 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: on two things, wealth and sovereignty, and I want to 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: break those down. I like to use the word sovereignty 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: a lot. I use financial sovereignty a lot because I 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: think it's pretty self descriptive. But a lot of people 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: may don't understand what it is. So let's break that 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: down first if we can. So, what does sovereignty mean? 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: So if I look at it from my standpoint or 34 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: I go back to the traditional meaning from the classical liberalism, 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: probably a period of time. Sovereignty from me is a 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: natural perspective that I am responsible entirely from my own pursuits, 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: in my own outcome in life. I wish not to 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: delegate that task to any state or other individual. I 39 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: want to be responsible for the way I end my 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: life in this world. So I need to build wealth. 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: I need to build relationships and networks in order to 42 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 1: ensure that my sovereignty is protected and sustain in this world. 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: And that's how I see. It's from an individual standpoint. 44 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't require the collective, although the collective can help 45 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: maintain its individual sovereignty. But sovereignty is an individual pursuit. 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: And how what can I do or what actions can 47 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I put forth in order to ensure that I do 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: not need to delegate my responsibility or for my life 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: to anybody else? Do you think that's a spectrum? I mean, 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: to be truly sovereign? Does that mean then you have 51 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: to make your own clothes? So yes, I exactly what 52 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: you mean. Now. So when I take the meaning of sovereignty, 53 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: I take it more from an I take more of 54 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: it from a standpoint that I am willing to do 55 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: what I need to do for myself, but I'm willing 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: to delegate certain tasks that others can do more optimally 57 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: than me. But where I do not believe that is 58 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: the cases in terms of my finances and my wealth. 59 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: That is something that I will not delegate nor wish 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: to delegate, because to control my wealth or my finances 61 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: is to control my abilities to eat, to my ability 62 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: to save, to retire, to go anywhere I want, or 63 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: to buy any asset class I wish. So in terms 64 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: of everything else, of course I'm dependent on others in 65 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: a collective because it requires me to delegate certain responsive 66 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: or certain tasks in order to optimize my own pursuits. 67 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: But specifically in terms of finances and wealth, that is 68 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: something that is that is not somebody else's responsibility. So 69 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: when you talk about delegating things like making clothes or 70 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: growing food or something like that, like it's okay to 71 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: designate that or delegate that out to somebody else because 72 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: they're not controlling me through that. Exactly, if I want 73 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: to buy clothes from this person, that person has no 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: control over me because I was supposed to. You still 75 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: have options, and you still have optionality, and worst case, 76 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,839 Speaker 1: you hire someone to make it, you go somewhere else, 77 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: you go online, you shop elsewhere. There are options. But 78 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: the more you remove those options, the more self reliant 79 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: you become. So yeah, control would be a huge component. 80 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: Those are things that you cannot truly control my sovereignty 81 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: through those things, So then you're basically wanting to sovereignty 82 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: would be I like to think of actually one of 83 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: my favorite authors, Fahyak, his seminal book he wrote which 84 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: is the constitution of liberty, and in that book he 85 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: defined liberty as freedom from coercion. Freedom from coercion, that 86 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: would be liberty. I like that definition, So freedom from 87 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: any constraint that would hold me back from being able 88 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: to choose the direction that I want to lose, that lie, 89 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: as long as I don't peed on somebody else's life, 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: let me live the life that I can to the 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: best and the fullest I can. And you think controling 92 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: your money is the best way to it's one of 93 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, my relationship. My money determines that the way 94 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: I can plan for my future, the type of assets 95 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: I can purchase, the people I can how I can 96 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: take care of my family and friends around me. And 97 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: so you know, to delegate that responsibly is simply saying that, well, 98 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: others now have control over your life and your future, 99 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: because if they lose it, if they mismanage it, if 100 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: they misallocate it, if they waste it, well you are 101 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: dependent on that, on those dynamics. So if you're going 102 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: to create a sovereignty as an individual, if you want 103 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: to become more financially responsible for yourself, you know it 104 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: requires a level of level of growth in order to 105 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: understand the world you're in in order to make sure 106 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: you allocate your capital properly and that you mitigate your 107 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: risks by understanding the Mac rule, the Mac world in 108 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: which you operate. From an American to a Canadian here, 109 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: you're a Canadian, right born reads the more so from 110 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: a Canadian to an American here. Obviously, the entire world 111 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: was massively impacted by the pandemic massively, and you know, 112 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,239 Speaker 1: many parts of the world might have been more free 113 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: during that period of time than the United States, which 114 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: is supposedly the land of the Free. How Ever, Canada 115 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: seemed to try to be on par with North Korea 116 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: pretty much. We have, you know, your prime dictator Justin 117 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: Trudeau on video. I've used clips of him praising China 118 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: and praising their communism because it allows them to do 119 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: things he's not able to do. We obviously saw him 120 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: taking actions that were basically on par with China. So 121 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: how how does it work trying to remain a sovereign 122 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: individual under some sort of like a regime or a 123 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: political environment like that. So personally for me, as he 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: goes like during the the pandemic and that whole period 125 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: of time, you know, we were locked down. We can 126 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: go out after a period of time. We can go 127 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: out after eight pm, we can see people. A lot 128 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: of it was just you know, being locked up and 129 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: just indulging the internet and online. So for me, the 130 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: biggest way to kind of maintain my sovereignty or to 131 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: strengthen it was to kind of focus on my intellectual development. 132 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: So podcasting was a huge interesting because on a weekly basis, 133 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: I got to have incredible conversations with people around the world. 134 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: I got to watch and observe market forces at a 135 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: level I've never seen before because by again, we spent 136 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: hours just watching the world move and clash and behave. 137 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: And I got to start writing a lot more. And 138 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: that that heavily helped me develop my ability to articulate 139 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: and observe things at a deeper level than I did before. 140 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: So it was more or it's more about currently an 141 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: intellectual developmental process because of the fact that it you know, 142 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: you have inflation rampaging here. There's not many ways to 143 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: protect your wealth. Taxes are growing up here. So if 144 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: I can still focus on building my intellect and building 145 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: relationships externally of this environment, I can still find a 146 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: way to maintain or protect my sovereignty down the line, 147 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: and then the process, of course is still making sure 148 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: I allocate to an extent certain capital, you know, on 149 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: certain play asset classes that can help me get out 150 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: of this situation, whether I leave or stay. Although granted 151 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: I'd rather leave this country. But so these are type 152 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: of things that I'm starting to focus on, you know, 153 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: making sure which asked classes. I'm going to focus on 154 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: my writing and my intellectual development, and those things help 155 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: me feel more secure in my sovereignty. If you're just 156 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: tuning in, you're listening to the Mark Moa show, We're 157 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: sitting down with Nick Tartaglia. We're talking about wealth, we're 158 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: talking about sovereignty, and we're going to get some ideas 159 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: of what you can do to increase both of those things. 160 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: You know, I want to come back to the point 161 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: about wealth and money specifically, because without wealth and money, 162 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: you're currentstrained by your circumstances. So you're not constrained by people, 163 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: but you're constrained by your circumstances, and so that's a 164 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: different type of tyranny that most people don't consider. So 165 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: we'll come back to that. If you're just tune in, 166 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: like I said, you're listening to the markma Show talking 167 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: with Nick Tartaglia. We're talking about, of course, each and 168 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: every week, the decentralized revolution, the way the world is changing, 169 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: and you need to be on top of this because 170 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: if it's changing, you need to be changing. To be 171 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: back with a whole lot more in a minute, you 172 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: don't want to miss it, So don't go away, we'll 173 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: be right back. All right, welcome back. If you're just 174 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: tune in, you're listening to the Mark Moss Show. We're 175 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: talking about, of course, each and every week, the decentralized Revolution. 176 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: But this week I am in the studio with Nick 177 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Tartaglia and we're talking about wealth, sovereignty and living under 178 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: the Canadian regime. We're talking about that for a minute 179 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: and the going back to that for a minute. So 180 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: you lived under under that, like I said, from the US, 181 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: looking up, I was like dang, Like both Canada and Australia, 182 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, why would you stay there? Why would 183 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: you live under that when you don't have to? Why 184 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: why would anybody choose to live under that when they 185 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: could go somewhere else? Right now, I think you highlighted 186 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: that part of that in that last question before we 187 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: took the breaks, I want to dig into that a 188 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: little bit. So while that happened, you were locked down, 189 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: you couldn't even your house. You chose to work on 190 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: your writing, your intellect and building up that some relationships, podcasting. 191 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: I want to come back to that. But basically the 192 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: point was is that you weren't really able to leave 193 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: that environment and go to a different environment because you 194 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: didn't have the resources to do that. So without wealth, 195 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: without money, without the ability to spend or use your money, 196 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: you don't actually have any freedom. Yeah, like I was 197 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: saying before we went on the break, you know, I 198 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: look at like freedom and like freedom is freedom from 199 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: both in any type of circumstance that would prevent you 200 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: from making a decision that you want to make. And 201 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: so obviously a person, so you can have tyranny of government, right, 202 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: a person could prevent you from doing something that you want. 203 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: But also just your own circumstance could be tyranny of health. 204 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: Right your health doesn't allow you to do that, it could, 205 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: which is why we say health is wealth. Could also 206 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: be tyranny of your own wealth, meaning or lack thereof right. 207 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: So I don't have the money to travel. I don't 208 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: have the money to move. I don't have the money 209 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: to buy a passport. I don't have the money to 210 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: do whatever. Right, So is that some of I mean, 211 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: did I frame that up? That kind of how you 212 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: look at that, because you know, like as a human 213 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: being who believes to be, who wants or wants to 214 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: believe in the idea of sovereignty as an individual thing 215 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: is a lot of governments, or a lot of states, 216 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: or a lot of people. They always talk about the 217 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: sovereignty of a nation, but the sovereignty of a nation 218 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: as a whole just means that those or at the center, 219 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: the central authority who dictates or controls that ecosystem or 220 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: that society, it has its own sovereignty to do what 221 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: it wants. That's not how it perceives sovereignty. It's not 222 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: at a collective level sovereignty. It's an individual level. So 223 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: the way I see it is that I'm not I 224 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: do not want to dictate my life based on man 225 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: made laws. I want to dictate my life based on 226 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: natural laws and natural circumstances that I need to mitigate 227 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: and circumvent. In order to do that, I need to 228 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: understand the parameters and the dynamics that allowed me to 229 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: thrive in this reality. And regardless of what, regardless of 230 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: which ecosystem I am born or raised in, or live in, 231 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: I must understand it in order to thrive in it. 232 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: And if I cannot thrive in it, then I must 233 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: change my circumstances. In order to do that, I must 234 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: understand how to do so. And that's where the intellectual 235 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: process comes in. You have to understand your the world 236 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: around you, or else there's no development should that point 237 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: that you're talking about. I just put on Twitter earlier today, 238 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: an hour or two ago. If you're not following me 239 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter, you should just at one Mark Moss. But 240 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: I put a quote from Ronald Reagan's nineteen eighty one 241 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: inaugural address. So he was this is January of eighty one, 242 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: he was being brought in as President of the United States, 243 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: and he said something that's that's used a lot. I 244 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: I was looking up this quote, which is government's not 245 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: the solution, Government's the problem. But I was trying to 246 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: find what's the context that he's staying that under. So 247 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: I went and looked up the whole speech and I 248 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: read it and I clipped himtuff out of there, But 249 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: he was talking about inflation at the time, and he 250 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: was saying, the inflation is not fixed by the government, 251 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: it's caused by by the government. But what he said, 252 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: as he said, from time to time, we've been tempted 253 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: to believe that society has become too complex to be 254 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: managed by self rule, and that government by an elite 255 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: group is superior to government for by and of the people. 256 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: So kind of to your point, we're not sovereign individuals, 257 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: the government sovereign to do what they want. We're not 258 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: sovereign sovereign and so he was addressing that in this 259 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: address here in nineteen eighty one. We've been tempted to 260 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: believe that society has become too complex to be managed 261 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: by individuals. It's too complex, he said, you should not 262 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: We don't need to learn, we don't need to understand. 263 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: Delegate that task as somebody else, and your sovereignty will 264 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: will be protected because you have a sovereign nation of 265 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: a central authority who knows best. Yeah, And then he 266 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: goes on to say, but if no one among us 267 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: is capable of governing himself, then who among us has 268 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: the capacity to govern something else, get your own bed 269 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: in order. It's just like boom, yes, exactly, like none 270 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: of us are smart enough to do this on our own, 271 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: so then you're smart enough exactly. You forget that the 272 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: central authorities there are also human beings. There are no 273 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: different than any one of us. The only thing is 274 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: we seem to assume that the moment the enter that 275 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: social entity, which is the government, which is no different 276 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: than any other social entity, that automatically it assumes the 277 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: responsibility to no best and to do what's best, and 278 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: that regardless of what it does, it holds no accountability, 279 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: and that it is the only thing that bestows upon 280 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: us the reality of the economy, which again is a fallacy, 281 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: since the economy is here regardless of whether the state 282 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: exists or not. It is a natural reality given to us. Therefore, 283 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: it is up to you to ensure your own outcome, 284 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: and that's where the sovereignty comes in. So now let's 285 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: go back to what you said. You know, you were 286 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: in lockdown down, you couldn't leave unfortunately, so you decided 287 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: to pour into your own self and to build up 288 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: your own tool kit, right, your own skill set. Why 289 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: did you choose that, like why is that? Why? Because 290 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: I was someone I always enjoyed going out and talking 291 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: to people and being around people and having conversations and 292 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: just you know, being outside and doing stuff. I didn't 293 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: like sitting down and doing nothing. And the moment I 294 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: was put in that environment, I felt as if I 295 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: was going to be very unproductive and it was going 296 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: to waste a lot of my time. And again, if 297 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: you go back to the classical princes of principles of 298 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: a lot of Austrians and classical economists, a lot of 299 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: things like there's nothing more permanent to temporary government programs, 300 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: and you know, whenever the government takes control, it has 301 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: a hard time letting go. So in my mind when 302 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: all this was going down, I was like, I don't 303 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: think this is gonna last two weeks, as they said. 304 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna last a couple of months. 305 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: I think this is going to be something that's gonna 306 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: be reoccurring for a long period of time. And so 307 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: that was bothering me heavily mentally and intellectually. So I 308 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: said I needed to find a way to put my 309 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: energy into something else that never did before. And the 310 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: only thing I could think of was starting to write. 311 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: So I started writing blogs from my podcast and that 312 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: turned into writing one book on system dynamics and trying 313 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: to understand the world I was in and trying to 314 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: understand the problems heading our way as a millennial who's 315 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: looking ahead. And then after I decided to write another 316 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: book after going down kind of like an Austrian rabbit hole, 317 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: an economic rabbit hole on economics, to kind of continue 318 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: the work of those guys of the Austrians and everything. 319 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: And I thought it was the only solution because I 320 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: didn't want to feel unproductive. Just watching TV for two 321 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: years is doing nothing. I thought I was gonna be 322 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: the biggest waste of my life. So I wanted to 323 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: be something. I wanted to be proud of myself, regardless 324 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: of the situation I was in. Yeah, so I mean 325 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: it was I was definitely about being productive to me 326 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: from the outside looking in. And that's why I was 327 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: asking the question, is it's like what you also did, though, 328 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: is you increased your knowledge, which also increased your skills 329 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: or your skill set. And the more skills you have, 330 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: the more knowledge you have, potentially the more sovereign you 331 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: can be because now you have tools and skills that 332 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: can allow you to make income remotely or lockdown or 333 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: something like that, as opposed to you didn't have those 334 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: skills before. If you're just tune in, you're listening to 335 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: the markmas Show talking about the Decentralized Revolution and how 336 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: to become more sovereign. With Nick Tartaglia, we're talking about 337 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: how to deal with with with tyranny, how to become 338 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: more sovereign. We got a whole lot more to cover, 339 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,239 Speaker 1: and we come back. Don't go away. I'm gonna be 340 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: right back, all right, welcome back. If you're just tune in, 341 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: you're listening to the Mark Moas Show. We're talking about 342 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: the decentralized Revolution each and every week, of course, and 343 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm in the studio with Nick Tartaglia. We're talking about 344 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: dealing with tyranny and becoming more sovereign. So, yeah, you 345 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: increase your skills, you increase your knowledge, and now you 346 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: have more knowledge and you have more skills to go 347 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: create money, whether that be podcasting or writing writing books, 348 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: writing blogs. I mean, there's so many things that you 349 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: could do with that, which I think is which I 350 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: think is super important. It's one thing that I see, 351 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: you know, so many people. They take this victim mentality 352 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, what can I do? The States 353 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: is going to do do whatever they want with me, 354 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: have their way with me, and I'm just in my 355 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: house and I can't do anything, so I might as 356 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: well just eat Cheetos and watch Netflix or something. Valy, 357 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have that in again, Oh, 358 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean during you saw during Canada here we were 359 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: locking down gems, but we had here, ironically, because I 360 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: live in Quebec. So let's say, let's I'm gonna contextualize 361 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: specifically in my province. So the place that I live 362 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: in the state controls the liquor stores, controls the marijuana stores, 363 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: controls the gambling. But they locked down the gems and 364 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: they left everything else open. So you had to rise 365 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: in alcohol consumption, rise in drug consumption rise, and gambling. 366 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: You had all those all while people are isolated, and 367 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: by default humans are social animals. They're not isolated animals 368 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: that live alone. They thrive in social environments. So we 369 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: restricted our natural mechanics as human beings, and we fed 370 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: the ourselves all kinds of stimulants and distractions, all while 371 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: believing it was the natural given right of the state 372 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: to do this. So I think we've we've been on 373 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: this trend for a long time, and I think we're 374 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: starting to see most people, or a lot of people anyway, 375 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: are starting to see how dangerous these ideas are and 376 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: we give the state this much power. I guess two 377 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: part question kind of one do you see do you 378 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: see like maybe in Canada, maybe in some of the 379 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: harsher areas of Canada, was this like a maybe a 380 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: waking up moment for a lot of people. So if 381 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: if the way I see it is, I think, well 382 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: one Alberta is one example where I think they've kind 383 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: of woken up because you have the new premier there. 384 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: Her name is Danielle and she's been a real go 385 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: getter who's been getting a lot of tension and fighting 386 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: back against what the liberal government's been doing at a 387 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: federal level. And then even from myself here, I've noticed 388 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people will have started to regret their 389 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: submission to these forces and starting to question why it 390 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: is that, why it is that their life is so 391 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: void of dignity whenever the government tells them what to do. 392 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of more curiosity, people willing to 393 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: have a conversation. Before people were afraid to have those conversations. 394 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: But it's become more open. Well, I mean to a 395 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: certain extent again, because you have a lot of like 396 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: March Show for example, where I'm from, there's a lot 397 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: of liberals, or you can go through the schooling system. 398 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: They've been shut down left and right because of protests 399 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: and for liberal progressive purposes. But there is a force 400 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: that's starting to understand and wake up that there's there's 401 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: this is not normal, and that if this cycle continues, 402 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: that their future in this country is very hard to imagine, 403 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: like it is for myself. It's very hard to imagine 404 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: it here. So I'm trying to find a way to 405 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: get out. So I mean you think get out, get 406 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: out and save yourself rather than stay in fight. Yeah, 407 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: you see, I would love that idea. But then the 408 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: way I see it is there's a point of no 409 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: return at a certain point. That's how one two. I 410 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: have to I also believe that Canada is very susceptible 411 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: in terms of the way it behaves based on America. 412 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: So if America doesn't shift, I think Canada is permanently finished. 413 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: Because Canadas is heavily depending on what America does. So 414 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: if the left or the progressive narrative dominates and continues 415 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: to hold force, Canada and its governments have plenty of 416 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: power to do so because there's no counterforce to it. 417 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: We're not We're like the little brother, the little sister 418 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: to America. That's how I see it. So on left, 419 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: we have someone to show us the way out. I 420 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: think Canada is too dossed out to find its own 421 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: way out. I want to be somebody to help and fight, 422 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: but I also have to take care of myself and 423 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: those around me. So there is a point where I 424 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: say it's to be it, where we reached a point 425 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: of no return, and that I will try to do 426 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: what I can elsewhere while trying to help because I 427 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: don't want to be But how much how much further 428 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: can Canada take it? I mean, Canada's got no money, 429 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 1: they got gold. I mean they're broke, they are, I mean, 430 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: their institutions are caving in, Like I mean, how much 431 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: further again? People? I mean people still believe in the delusion. 432 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: They just took away gun rights, well, the ability to 433 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: purchase guns, and people thought like everything they're doing, people 434 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: find a reason to agree or to just say this 435 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: is what it's part being of a society like that. 436 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: What does what does that mean? Did they take away 437 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: the ability to buy and buy, sell transfer guns but 438 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: not own them. So so if you already own them, 439 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: but you just can't sell them exactly, you can still own. 440 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: You can still own if you've purchased. Is it is 441 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: it all guns or just handguns or just right now 442 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: it's only handguns that they were going down for, but 443 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 1: now they're trying to get into hunting guns. But that 444 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: was just they backed out on that one because the 445 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: Conservatives were being a little aggressive on them. They just 446 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: backed down, I think about a week or two ago. 447 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: But they have the momentum because they keep doing what 448 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: they want and even the conservative side, like from I 449 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: just don't like politicians in general or the politics because 450 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: I find it's just it's a lot of the time 451 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: and inefficient game. They're not actually solving any economic problems. 452 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: They're just trying to be the hero to any special 453 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: interest group. So um, you know, it's hard to see 454 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: Canada coming out of this positively since you know, like 455 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: you said, we have no gold, we have all we 456 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: running on debt, Trudeau in this last four in this 457 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: entire terms, has incurred more debt on behalf of Canada 458 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: for bea Canada, more than all the combined premiers in 459 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: Canadian history. So you know, it's just a downward effect 460 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: of that's expanding exponentially. Now you're you know, one of 461 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: the things that you like to study and talk about 462 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: is free markets and comparing free markets to socialism and 463 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: commonism exacts like that. Why why do you think a 464 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: free market is favorable or better than a socialism one? 465 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: I think that it is, by the natural law, the 466 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 1: only environment by which sovereignty could be honored, whereby individual 467 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: consciousness can evolve and grow, where by individuals can feel 468 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: dignity and purpose, whereby we can make meaning to our 469 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: own lives without having to feel confined or caged or 470 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: feel safe and become a meaningless variable in the time 471 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: of history. So free markets, to me is merely a 472 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: reflection of human behat or if I look at any 473 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: kind of economic system, it's merely a reflection of individual behaviors. 474 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: Socialism is like a paternal relationship. It's all about your safety, 475 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: doing what's well for you. But there is no room 476 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: to grow as an individual in that space, free market 477 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: is the only place where by trial and error makes sense, 478 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: where boom boom and bus cycles can lead to growth 479 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: and innovation, where you can mitigate past errors because you 480 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: understand them and you can learn from them. If you 481 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 1: are an environment where there's constant a delegation of responsibility, 482 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: delegation of learning, delegation of actions that need to be 483 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: taken to a central authority, the market itself of individuals, 484 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: which is where you create prosperity as a collective, cannot grow, 485 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: cannot evolve, cannot innovate, it cannot build its way out 486 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: of it, and cannot do it in a way that's 487 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: sustainable for each generation after itself. So if the free market, 488 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: which I would agree is is so much of a 489 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: better system than socialism, communism can outcompete it, I believe 490 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: it can if it is given the space to compete, 491 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: I just but the thing is, there's so many forces, 492 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: primal forces that are against it. You have the educational 493 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: system that's against it. You have the tech industry that's 494 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: against it. You have the government that's against it. You 495 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: have military organization, military and police organizations that are against it. 496 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: So it starts I mean given in free market system, 497 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: it all takes. It's about empowering the individual so it 498 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: can compete with it if the individual, or enough individuals 499 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: are empowered to understand that, if they themselves do not 500 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: stand up and fight back, there won't be no free 501 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: market for them to thrive in or to produce their 502 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: own outcome. If you're just tune in, you're listening to 503 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: the markmas Show. We talked about the Decentralized Revolution EA 504 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: share every week. I'm in the studio with Nick Tartaglia. 505 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: We're talking about sovereignty, we're talking about wealth. Now we're 506 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: getting into free markets versus socialism and communism, and we'll 507 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: come back out on the other side. We got a 508 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: lot more to cover in this last segment. You don't 509 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: want to miss it. If we're gonna take a short 510 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: break and we're right back talking about communism, socialism, free 511 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: markets and if they can win. I tend to think again, 512 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: So we'll find out. We're back with all that and 513 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: more in a minute. Don't go away, I'll be right back, 514 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: all right, Welcome back. If you're just tune in, you're 515 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: listening to the Mark Moss Show. I'm in the studio 516 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: with Nick Tartaglia. We're talking about sovereignty and wealth and 517 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: Canada and tyranny and free markets and so much more. 518 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: And I was asking the question about if if you 519 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: think free markets could out compete a command economy, socialism, 520 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: communist etc. And you said that you, you know, only 521 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: if it's given a chance to compete, because wise with politics, 522 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: they can just crowd it out. And that seems to 523 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: be what big government, big businesses are doing. But the 524 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: problem is that those models they're built off of don't work. 525 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: So don't we just naturally outcompete them because they just 526 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: crash on their own? Yes, I agree, but then I 527 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: also have to So then what I would do is 528 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: I also overlap the whole. So there's a saying that says, 529 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, strong men create good times, good times create 530 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: weak men, soft man soft men create hard times. And 531 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: then the question becomes which peer to that economic cycle 532 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: are react in relation to which weighted behaviors are dominant 533 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: in the ecosystem. So the state can thrive because of 534 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: the fact that a lot of people are ignorant. So 535 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: like when I heard you talking back in the Rick conference, 536 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: you were talking about the parallel economy where people can 537 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: find ways to compete by the same kind of products 538 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: by providing a different set of values and conditions to 539 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: the market, adding value in a different way. Well, that 540 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: is elevating their their consciousness understanding that they can compete, 541 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: but they take they have to take it in their 542 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: own hands. So when I say it has to be given, 543 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: we need the opportunity to compete. By that, I mean 544 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: simply solving the issue of ignorance. People need to be 545 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: aware that it's up to them to make this happen. 546 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: And if they want to delicate, like if they say, well, 547 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: I want to be free, I want sovereignty, I want wealth, 548 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to do it myself or I 549 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 1: need someone else to do it first, Well, then I 550 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: want to I want to do it myself. But you know, 551 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: so that's the point is we all want it, but 552 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: nobody seems to want to do it. So for me, 553 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 1: it's a matter of aligning the actions with the intent, 554 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: and there's a gap there. And that ignorance is where 555 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: the state dominates, because if we're ignorant and we don't 556 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: do it ourselves, then the state can keep pushing down 557 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 1: on us. Yeah, well, and the state controls all the exhaustion, 558 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: so they are separhand. Yeah, you know, it's interesting where 559 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: to your point, I think most people just don't want 560 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: the responsibility that comes with it. And if you look 561 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: at there was a doctor Desmond mate As he did 562 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: the work on the mass formation psychosis, and he talks 563 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: about how in this mass formation psychosis where the masses 564 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: basically go along with this whole thing, he talks about 565 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: how there's thirty percent of the people at the top 566 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: that are just going to go along with that, and 567 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: there's thirty percent of people at the bottom that are 568 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: always going to resist that, and there's the forty percent 569 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: in the middle. And like that's what's up for grabs 570 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: kind of a thing, right, like which side do they 571 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: get influenced by? And I think maybe not the exact 572 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: same numbers, but but similar in life, we can see 573 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: that the masses don't know what they want, the masses 574 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: don't even care, and the masses are not willing to 575 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: put out any effort to learn or to improve, and 576 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: so really the world is being driven by the edges 577 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: and we can see that, right, I mean, I see 578 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: in Canada, you guys are doing like a legal legal suicide. 579 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: So they're putting that for veterans because I guess the 580 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: way they argue is it's easier to just give them 581 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: an easy way out than I actually care and provide 582 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: the real value. But the thing is, when has government 583 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: ever been an efficient entity to solve any kind of 584 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: socioeconomic problem. It never really has. But yet as a culture, 585 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: we delegate those tasks to it. So at the end 586 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: of finding easier ways to just solve those problems, you 587 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: know what, we can't seem to do anything. People are 588 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: begging for it, So let's just give it to them. Now. 589 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: They're talking about lowering it down to kids as young 590 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: as twelve, I think, and then doing it like with 591 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: no like parental approval. And I think about that, and 592 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: we have plenty of other stupid and sick policies here 593 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: in the United States as well, transitioning kids without parent approval, 594 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: et cetera. And I just think, like, what percentage of 595 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: the people want that? Like, come on, really, like what 596 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 1: percentage of the population really wants to see men go 597 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: compete in women's sports? Like, like, nobody really wants that, right, 598 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: It's being driven by the agents, but people are free 599 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: and so whiles while that's on one side is discouraging, 600 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: it's also encouraging. We don't need them asses, no exactly here, 601 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: so we only need we only need. As one of 602 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: the United States founding father said, Samuel Adams, it doesn't 603 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: take a majority to prevail, rather a small, irate minority. 604 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: And so we see, you know, things in the grocery store, 605 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 1: the kosher and the gluten free and the organic. It 606 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: wasn't everybody that wanted those things. It was a small group. 607 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: So we don't have to convince the world, right, we 608 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: just have to get a small group of people. As 609 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: that kind of the thing is if you give the 610 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: right if you give the right circumstances and conditions to 611 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: certain people, or you give them the space to do 612 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: what they need, or you evolve their ability to understand 613 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: the realm they're in, you can empower them in a 614 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: way that will make them understand why they need to 615 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: set fourth actions that ripple throughout the ecosystem, positive energy 616 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: from an economic standpoint, that changes the path on which 617 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: we're on. Because if you don't, because at the end 618 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: of the day, if you empower the individual by default, 619 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: you end up empowering everybody else because you know it's 620 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: like a team. You are as weak as your weakest link. 621 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: If you empower the weakest person in your society to 622 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: be independent, to thrive on it, to or figure out 623 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: a way to thrive on their own, then they will 624 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: be a force to reckon with. And then you feel 625 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: that energy. You can feel that that desire to thrive 626 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: and to be purposeful. They become more like a lion 627 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: rather than as sheep, and then you, everybody else around 628 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: you gets that same energy in that vibe. Okay, I 629 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: need to be like that too. Yeah. Do you think 630 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: it's something though? Where Like most people are just going 631 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: to continue in the path that they're on until the 632 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: pain gets high enough that they're forced to change. Like 633 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: I use the example all the time. Like I grew 634 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: up going to chiropractors. I believe in in chiropractic. I 635 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: believe that our spines should be in alignment. I believe 636 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: all those things. But like I don't really go unless 637 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm in a lot of pain and the pain has 638 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: to be high enough to be to clear out some 639 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: of my schedule. Otherwise I'm too busy. Change or drug 640 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: addicts right, like they don't they don't want to go 641 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: to rehab until they hit rock bottom, which is usually 642 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: more of a rock bottom than most of us would 643 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: would put up with. So like you think that's the 644 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: case for most I do. I do a lot of people. 645 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: A lot of people are too safe or secure, or 646 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: they're too stuck in a routine, or they're too afraid 647 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: of respond. I know there's a saying I feel who 648 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: it's by. One of the greatest fear of mankind is 649 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: responsibility or self responsibility. To be responsible as a scary 650 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: thing because it says that if something goes wrong where 651 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: you fail or whatever, it is on you. It is 652 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: not on anybody else. It is because of you. But 653 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: the thing is, through failure, you learn, through the learning process, 654 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: you build your consciousness. The thing is, we thrive in 655 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: an environment where people are are fueled or empowered because 656 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: people are weak. So your weakness empowers me to tell 657 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: you what to do. So I you know, I think 658 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: that is a part of it. It's it's sad what 659 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: it now now, But what kind of like we're saying 660 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: we don't need the masses, we don't need the majority, 661 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: we just need the small, irate minority. So you're in 662 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: a younger generation, how do you see the younger generation 663 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: responding to this. Do you think we'll get enough of 664 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: the minority to get irate about this and push back 665 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: on the edges. Do you feel positive about that. I'm 666 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,479 Speaker 1: in the middle of this because I haven't been able 667 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 1: to contextualize the force of it yet in the sense 668 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: that it depends on whether you're looking at a province, 669 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: whether you're in Canada or the state United States, how 670 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: much force they push back. Because the way I see 671 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: is like in game theory, you have different pieces on 672 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: the board, and now the question becomes which entity, or 673 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: which collective entity of individuals is able to force or 674 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: push back or mitigate its primal threats. Now, the collective 675 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: hysteria of you know, of the left or progressive, or 676 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: of those that like to abated the state or the politicians, 677 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: and they are the dominant force. But the thing is 678 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: the opposing force is too afraid to speak up, are 679 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: too afraid of the backlash, or too afraid to speak 680 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: their mind, so they do not create a counterforce to 681 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: the other side. And the other side is very emotionally 682 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: intellectually weak. They just have the crowd. But the thing is, 683 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: the moment you have a select few of individuals are 684 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: strong enough to oppose them, or push back or make 685 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 1: them understand that they are a primal force. There's something 686 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: to come of it. But the younger generations, they're we're 687 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: not leaders at least I don't see them as leaders 688 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: yet because of the fact that we're born in this 689 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: environment that's very privileged, especially from a Western perspective. We're 690 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: very privileged with what we have, but we also like 691 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: to complain about everything. Even though we're extremely privileged. I 692 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: don't think it's in us to do it because we 693 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: don't have role models anymore, or at least there are some, 694 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: but we just don't know where to find them. So 695 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: I think there's that kind of gap in the marketplace 696 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: to see that shift occur. We'll take that as a 697 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: challenge everybody. We got to wrap this up. If you're 698 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: just tuning in, you're listening to the Mark Moss show 699 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: Up and in the Studio with Nick Tartaglia talking about 700 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: the decentralized revolution and how we can push back on this. 701 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: You can find them on Instagram at Nick Tartaglia will 702 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: link it in the show's below. That's what we got today. 703 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. Until next time