Speaker 1: Let's get started with the conversation, not on politics, not
Speaker 1: on sports, but on race. Conversation I heard recently between
Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo of News Nation, a conservative commentator.
Speaker 2: At Tucker Calson.
Speaker 1: The interview was a wide ranging conversation that touched on
Speaker 1: a number of topics, including quotas and DEI don't believe me,
Speaker 1: Tuck A callson aired at first, and then obviously NewsNation.
Speaker 2: Neared aired a snippet of it. Take a look at
Speaker 2: what I'm about to show you.
Speaker 3: It became obvious that the meritocracy was producing an incredibly
Speaker 3: lopsided society, and that freaked people out and it felt
Speaker 3: unfair to them. The meritocracy produces an outcome that you
Speaker 3: may not be ready for, actually, because it's rooted in
Speaker 3: nature and you can't change it. So these are super
Speaker 3: complicated questions. But I know that a system that rewards
Speaker 3: people on the basis of race and punishes others on
Speaker 3: the basis of race creates hatred and division.
Speaker 1: I was very uncomfortable hearing that from Tucker Calson. Let
Speaker 1: me be very very clear, meritocracy created a lop sided environment.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know how you took it.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you how I take it. We
Speaker 1: live in a white power structure society, white men running
Speaker 1: this country, if not this world. And what Tucker Calson
Speaker 1: basically said there it was. If you're saying a meritocracy,
Speaker 1: that that is what existed and when that existed, before
Speaker 1: the likes of affirmative action, before civil rights legislation, before
Speaker 1: dei et cetera, et cetera. If you're saying a meritocracy
Speaker 1: created a lop side of society, and that lop side
Speaker 1: of society was in the favor of white folks, then
Speaker 1: essentially what you're saying is white folks got their stuff
Speaker 1: on merit and everybody else maybe.
Speaker 2: Not so much.
Speaker 1: That's how I took it.
Speaker 2: That's what I do. What y'all here? What what? What
Speaker 2: y'all here?
Speaker 1: That's what I heard. That's what I heard. That is
Speaker 1: why I was so uncomfortable speaking to Chris Cuomo last night,
Speaker 1: because I was a guest on his show. In the
Speaker 1: immediate aftermath of about seven or eight minutes of Chris
Speaker 1: Cuomo talking to Tuck A. Calton, I had not seen
Speaker 1: it up until that moment, and they needed me to
Speaker 1: opine on it. So before I even delve further into
Speaker 1: this subject, let me air for you what I said
Speaker 1: to Chris Cuomo last night in the immediate aftermath of
Speaker 1: hearing what took A Colton had to say. Check it out.
Speaker 1: He was dismissive of the cult of the racial construct
Speaker 1: notion that you brought to his attention, not realizing how
Speaker 1: palpable and how insulting. Dare I say that would come
Speaker 1: across to so many African Americans in this country. The
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, is that covering the world
Speaker 1: of sports. Think about it from this perspective. They were
Speaker 1: telling folks that you're telling the black man he couldn't
Speaker 1: play the quarterback position. You were telling the black man
Speaker 1: he couldn't be a head coach. You were telling the
Speaker 1: black man that he couldn't be a leader of men.
Speaker 1: Let's not get started with what you were telling the
Speaker 1: black women. And over the course of time, we've seen
Speaker 1: how exceptional people from all races are and can be,
Speaker 1: and we see how deficient others can be. Then you
Speaker 1: also have to take into account the kind of society
Speaker 1: that we lived in.
Speaker 2: We lived in.
Speaker 1: Remember I got left back in the fourth grade because
Speaker 1: at a first grade reading level, okay, And I was.
Speaker 1: I had undiagnosed dyslexia that I ultimately had to overcome.
Speaker 1: What was one of the challenges of overcoming it. I
Speaker 1: was in the streets all the time because my mother
Speaker 1: had to work two jobs, because my father wasn't handling
Speaker 1: his business appropriately, and as a result, there was a
Speaker 1: weight on the shoulders of my entire family. And so
Speaker 1: as a result, sometimes you found yourself running the streets.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you found yourself being preoccupied with things you shouldn't
Speaker 1: be preoccupied with, and as a result, that was taking
Speaker 1: up your time instead of you hitting the books and
Speaker 1: doing what you have to do. He didn't mention any
Speaker 1: of those kind of things. He didn't mention any of
Speaker 1: the potential obstacles that could lie in weight. He simply
Speaker 1: wanted to lean on race, talking to the potential intelligence
Speaker 1: or lack.
Speaker 2: Thereof of a race of people, or what have you.
Speaker 1: And I just said to myself, Wow, he really really
Speaker 1: seems a bit detached from reality. And I was being nice.
Speaker 1: I was being very very nice. I could have said
Speaker 1: some other things, but I don't know. I'm like that.
Speaker 1: Don't want to accuse the brother anything, But the bottom
Speaker 1: line is I was very uncomfortable listening to him, because
Speaker 1: when you use words like lopsidedness to describe a meritocracy,
Speaker 1: and that meritocracy vastly favored people that look just like
Speaker 1: Tucker Calson, and you're lamenting the state of affairs that
Speaker 1: exist in society today, and you're pointing a figure at
Speaker 1: DEI diversity, equity inclusion, as if that's what's gotten black
Speaker 1: folks opportunities, not their merit. If you're alluding to stuff
Speaker 1: like affirmative action, civil rights legislation, or anything else that
Speaker 1: occurred in the aftermath of Jim Crow laws that certainly
Speaker 1: was suppressive, and you're pointing to those things to indicate
Speaker 1: there's a problem in our society. What you're saying is
Speaker 1: it's a problem because we're no longer judging anything on merit.
Speaker 1: So that means whatever's going on in our society today,
Speaker 1: whatever opportunities are lacking for quote unquote the white establishment,
Speaker 1: then excuse me, it can't be about merit. Let's get
Speaker 1: back to merit. And this is to me what Tucker
Speaker 1: Causon came across as not getting let's say, for example,
Speaker 1: thirty positions was filled. Because if you watch the interview.
Speaker 1: He was talking about, you know, hey, what's up with
Speaker 1: all of these communities? Black community is Hispanic community. We
Speaker 1: just individuals with people with people. All of us are
Speaker 1: at the mercy of a system. We're a nation of rules,
Speaker 1: nation of laws. We're supposed to be. And if that's
Speaker 1: what's going on in our world, well, who's hovering over it?
Speaker 1: Who's the puppeteer pulling the strings? Do we not see
Speaker 1: the Democrats right now lamenting everything about Donald Trump's power?
Speaker 1: Do we not see the influence that power can wield?
Speaker 1: Do we not see a guy in Elon Musk who's unelected,
Speaker 1: his position is overdoged, does not require Senate confirmation or
Speaker 1: anything like that. Do we not see the power that
Speaker 1: he's willing when he's essentially an adviser and a consultant
Speaker 1: to the president, but clearly somebody who gets the president
Speaker 1: to do a lot of what he says. Power matters,
Speaker 1: influence matters, and when it's almost always in the hands
Speaker 1: are people that look like Tucker Carlson, where does that
Speaker 1: leave the.
Speaker 2: Rest of us?
Speaker 1: If a Tucker Carlson is on the airwaves spewing that
Speaker 1: that's the kind of meritocracy we should want.
Speaker 3: Is it just me?
Speaker 1: Is it just me? And then you want test scores,
Speaker 1: standardized test scores. I get that part. If everybody is
Speaker 1: experiencing the same conditions, same qualities as schools and education,
Speaker 1: same quality of teachers, same qualities of life, having a
Speaker 1: walk through the streets of America to get to school.
Speaker 1: Does everybody have to take mass transit? Does everybody have
Speaker 1: to take the train? Does every you have to does
Speaker 1: everyone have to walk through impoverished neighborhoods, rough streets, crime?
Speaker 1: Does everybody have the same limited amount of distractions?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: And no.
Speaker 1: The answer to that would be no, which means the
Speaker 1: conditions are not the same, which means to just use
Speaker 1: something generic that's supposed to be applicable to everyone when
Speaker 1: everyone's situations, the circumstances, and what is available to them
Speaker 1: and what they're exposed to is not the same. In
Speaker 1: Tucker Costs World, none of that should be taken into
Speaker 1: consideration based on what I heard, What does that leave us?
Speaker 1: That's where I'm coming from. That's my problem with what
Speaker 1: he said. That's what made me incredibly, incredibly uncomfortable, because
Speaker 1: when you see people lamenting politicians who are in office
Speaker 1: and looking at them, their personality, their experiences, the influence that.
Speaker 2: They wield, and where their soul lies.
Speaker 1: When you found yourself listening to Tucker casts and as
Speaker 1: I listened to him last night, I just got the impression, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is not a dude that sees much outside of
Speaker 1: his bubble that he either is willing to relate to
Speaker 1: or have compassion for. I might be wrong with that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm only going by what I saw.
Speaker 1: It looks very uncomfortable because his voice resonates, and it
Speaker 1: resonates with people who have influence, And if they're listening
Speaker 1: to him, what kind of influence are they willing to exercise?
Speaker 1: And what role is he playing in it. He's no
Speaker 1: longer at Fox News, no longer as he in Namas NBC.
Speaker 1: He's got his own social media following. He's free as
Speaker 1: a bird to operate with relative impunity to say whatever
Speaker 1: it is he wants to say.
Speaker 2: That's pretty damn scary if you don't fall under the
Speaker 2: umbrella of merit or of meritocracy that he feels you should.
Speaker 2: Just my thoughts based off of what I saw