1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Are we tearing down? Are we going forward? If you're 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: building up, well, that's questionable in the first place because 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Trout and Rendon are always injured, and also it's questionable 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: because Addie Moreno isn't going to spend the necessary money. 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with a lot of rizzo. It is 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: the post deadline edition and a lot of We have 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: a ton to talk about. We've got winners, we've got losers, 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: but let's start by just talking about how this deadline 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: went down. It was a little different. 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: It was a little different. 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: Don't forget to get your questions into the chat for 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: Grill and Ken coming up. We appreciate you guys here 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: on Fair Territory and Ken. Let me ask you this. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: I feel as if, really the only two players that 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: could have changed the landscape of the postseason picture are 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: still with their respective teams. 18 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: They didn't move. 19 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: You're talking about Blake Snell and Tarek Scouble, and I 20 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: would agree, Alana, there were no earth chattering moves here, 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: but we did see moves around the edges for certain teams, 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: and moves that they think they intend to help them 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: down the stretch and into the postseason. Now, it's always 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: difficult to predict which players might have the greatest impact, 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: but I do expect that some of the guys that 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: moved are going to make meaningful differences for their teams, 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: the kind that you're talking about with scoobl and Snell. 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: A guy dominating like CC Sabathia did that one year 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: for the Brewers. No, it's not going to be like that, 30 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: but I do expect that there will be some improvements 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: with some clubs, and some of these deals will prove fruitless. 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: That's what always happens. 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about some of the winners and 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 3: the non winners of the respective trade deadline as we 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: get into the lead here, Kenny, and I think for 36 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: the first winner. 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: For me, it's the New York Yankees. 38 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: Obviously, Jazz Chisholm gives them a boost as far as 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: personality is concerned. They're undefeated since the acquisition of the 40 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: dynamic outfielder of force. They get to right or two 41 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: relief pitchers rather in Mark Leier Junior and Delo Santos. 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: I thought perhaps that they were going to get a 43 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: lefty in the bullpen as far as that is concerned. Obviously, 44 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: Clay Holmes hasn't been the best as far as you know, 45 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: struggling since the start of June with an era above four. 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: So what do you think though about adding the two 47 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: right handed relievers and Justissels. 48 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: They needed swing and missing the bullpen and they got it, 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: So that was a positive for them. If they had 50 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: gotten Jack Flaherty as well, boy, it would have been 51 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: an amazing deadline in my opinion for them. I was 52 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: a little concerned initially and still am concerned about Jash 53 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Chishom junior at third base position. He had never played professionally, 54 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: But so far, so good. The guy is an athlete 55 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: and again he has made an impact so far. My 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: first winner would be the Saint Louis Cardinals, and Saint 57 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: Louis Cardinals did what I thought was kind of a 58 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: remarkable thing. They acquired Eric Fetti and Tommy fam in 59 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: that three team deal with the Dodgers and White Sox. 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: And they did it by giving up a player who 61 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: hasn't even played for them this year and Tommy Edmund 62 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: So to me, that was a really positive move for them. 63 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: And Eric Fetti is the stabilizer they it for the rotation. 64 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: He was a very much coveted player Tommy fam We've 65 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: seen what he has done already. I'll have more on 66 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: him later, And it just seemed to me that was 67 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: a really big step for a general manager President of 68 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: Baseball Operations John Mazzaylak, who has taken some criticism in 69 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: the past for not being aggressive enough. And they also 70 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: got the reliever Sean Armstrong. 71 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy to think that the Cardinals are really 72 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: very much in this thing because at the beginning of 73 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: the season, and really up until about a month ago, 74 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: I wasn't certain they were going to make the postseason, 75 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: but they addressed the starting pitching need, as you mentioned 76 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: with Eric Fetty. The number two winner for me, I 77 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: would say is the Los Angeles Dodgers. The reason being 78 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: is I love the Jack Flerity move and I also 79 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: like the Michael Kopeck move. I do think that Kopik 80 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: will really help them in the bullpen. And Jack Flaherty 81 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: obviously went healthy, and you did a tremendous job talking 82 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: about the fact that he did have some back issues 83 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: and that's why the New York Yankees passed on him. 84 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: But I do think with the rotation that has been 85 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: decimated by injury. Ken that Jack Flaherty is a good 86 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: fit in Los Angeles. You mentioned Tommy Edmund obviously hasn't 87 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: played yet, but he's hopefully gonna fill a void there. 88 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: As far as the middle part of the infield is 89 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: concerned with the injuries that they have to Chris Taylor 90 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: and Miguel Rojas and Max Munsey, I'm. 91 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: With you, Alano. They did well, and they needed to 92 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: do well because the team that is chasing them suddenly 93 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: four and a half games back, is my other winner here, 94 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: and I'm talking, of course about the San Diego Padres. 95 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: And to assess them properly, you really have to go 96 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: back to spring training when they got Dylan Cease, and 97 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: then they acquired Luis Arias, and then at the deadline, 98 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: these four players, the two names in the middle being 99 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: the most prominent, Tanner Scott and Jason Adam. They've built 100 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: a super bullpen. And I talked about this on foul Territory. 101 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: Aj Preller trades prospects like no one else. He acquires 102 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: big name talent like no one else. And you wonder, man, 103 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: when is this gonna crash? And I've wondered this, and 104 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: I've said it repeatedly. They're gonna run out. It's gonna 105 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: be a problem for them, And yet he seems to 106 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: keep replenishing the systems. And as I said also on 107 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: foul Territory, their win h is not forever here and 108 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: they need to win in the next couple of years 109 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: because Manny Machado's getting older, Xander Bogart is getting older, 110 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: and they're pitching is kind of in an uncertain state. 111 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: They're starting pitching now. So before the deadline started, I 112 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: asked the GM on another team, I said, hey, do 113 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: you think aj Preller will be trying to save his 114 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: job and he'll be aggressive because of that or will 115 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: he just be aggressive because he's always aggressive? And the 116 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: GM said, how could you tell the difference? That's who 117 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: he is. So he did a really good job, I 118 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: thought in supplementing his twenty twenty four roster. 119 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. 120 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: I feel like Aj Preler rather is the Jerry Depoto 121 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 3: of the National League. 122 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: Both of those guys do. 123 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: Love to trade. Let's talk about my non winner. The 124 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: first non winner for me ken is the Chicago White Sox. 125 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: And it's not even just because of the trade deadline. 126 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: This entire season for the White Sox has been a 127 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: waste of space. Crochet didn't do himself any favors by 128 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: having those contract demands as far as that's concerned, demanding 129 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: that he'd stay in the starting rotation. 130 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: Didn't want to relieve, so he had. 131 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: Really eliminated any possibility of going from a pretender to 132 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: a contender. But the way that they have handled situations 133 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: this entire season, if you take a look at this tweet, 134 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: I believe that we had. If you throw out the 135 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: two fourteen game losing streaks that the Chicago White Sox 136 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: have had, they've had two of them, they still would 137 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 3: have the worst winning percentage in baseball. They're currently at 138 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: twenty seven and fifty three. That three thirty eight winning percentage, 139 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: Kenny still the worst in baseball, and that's not even 140 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: including the two fourteen game losing streaks. So for me, 141 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,119 Speaker 3: the White Sox are are my number one non winner 142 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 3: for the entire twenty twenty four season. 143 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: On pace for one hundred and twenty three losses, which 144 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: would be a record in the modern era, breaking the 145 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty the Mets had in nineteen sixty two, 146 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: and their manager pedro Graphal he could be fired any 147 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: moment now. Now, my first loser is going to be 148 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: a team that you're intimately familiar with. Alana used to 149 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: work with that the Colorado Rockies. And the Rockies are 150 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: always a study in fascination at the line because they 151 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: are inert they basically do nothing. Now, what they did 152 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: this deadline was trade two relievers, Jalen Beeks on an 153 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: expiring contract and Nick Meers, who then revealed that he 154 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: was tipping pitches for a month and a half and 155 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: no one in the Rockies organization even pointed this out 156 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: to him. So the way I described in my latest 157 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: column was that they are conscientious objectors at the deadline, 158 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: and they continued their run of basically doing nothing. 159 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Colorado Rockies are loyal to a fault. 160 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: They get rid of big guys though when they shouldn't 161 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: get rid of big guys, and I think they're just 162 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: content to exist. I don't think they have any intentions 163 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: ever of really going for My non winner. Number two 164 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: is the Miami Marlins, and ken to me, the riding 165 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 3: was on the wall when they traded their best player 166 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: back on May fifth, when they got rid of Luisa 167 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: Rise back on May fifth, when this team was a 168 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: postseason team in twenty twenty three. That told me all 169 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: I needed to know about what the Miami Marlins were 170 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 3: doing in terms of their direction. I mean, they have 171 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: Peter Bendix that came over from Tampa Bay. You cannot 172 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: run the Marlins like the Tampa Bay Rays. Kim Ang 173 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: you know, left, Derek Jeter left. I mean, it says 174 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: a lot to me, speaks volumes about this organization and 175 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: the focus. You see all of the guys that they've 176 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: already traded away. To me, the Marlins had no reason 177 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: but to go forward in twenty twenty four to kind 178 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: of repeat what they tried to do in twenty three. 179 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: Skips Schumacher National League Manager of the Year, and he 180 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: may not even be there next year. 181 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: That's right, a lot. And you can praise them for 182 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: the hall that they got back in these various trades, 183 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: and based on industry perceptions, they did well. But the 184 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: entire premise of this team coming off twenty three, I'm 185 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: with you on that. I did not like it. And 186 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: I know they had work to do and their infrastructure 187 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: wasn't great all that, but you can do all that 188 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: and fix what's underneath the hood while improving the major 189 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: league team. And from the beginning of this season, their 190 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: message was we're not trying no good now. My number 191 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: two loser I could pick from a number of teams 192 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: would certainly qualify. They added only a reliever. The Angels 193 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: should have made more deals, but I'm going to go 194 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: with a contender because this team, to me acting kind 195 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: of curiously. The San Francisco Giants. They didn't trade Blake Snell. 196 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. They're going forward with 197 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: the best rotation they believe in the game. It's Snell, 198 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: it's all those others, Ray and Hayden, Birdsong, the kid 199 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: that's come up, and of course Logan Web who was 200 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: brilliant last night. But while they traded Jorge sol Laire 201 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: to get rid of his money, okay, that's fine, they 202 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: didn't really bring an offense. They ultimately acquired Marcana, and 203 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: Marcana is a useful role player. But here's a team 204 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: that I understand what they're doing. They're creating at bats 205 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: and playing time for younger players that they believe will 206 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: be able to contribute at a similar level to other 207 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: guys that might have been out there, But in my opinion, 208 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: they needed more offense. If you were going to do 209 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: it this way, try to win with your rotation, great 210 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: and try to give you opportunities to young players, no problem. 211 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: But you still needed more zip in that lineup and 212 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: they just didn't go get it. 213 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: Are you surprised, or maybe I shouldn't say surprised. Do 214 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: you think that far Ha Anxiety is in the hot seat? 215 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: As far as that's concerned. I mean, this is a 216 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: team that they Obviously they tried to get Aaron Judge. 217 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: They did not get Carlos Korea, which turned out to 218 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: be a good thing for them. They didn't make any 219 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: substantial moves at the deadline. Obviously, Blake Snail's a big deal. 220 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: I understand that, But is he on the hot seat? 221 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: I thought that the Giants were going to contend this 222 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: year and they're not. 223 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: He is on the hot seat. And they spent a 224 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: ton of money in the offseason, some four hundred million 225 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: dollars in guaranteed contracts to all the players that they signed, 226 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: and the idea was to be a more entertaining team 227 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: and a more competitive team. They're somewhat more entertaining, and 228 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: certainly the loss of the Korean center field or crushed 229 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: them in that regard, But at the same time, they 230 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: still are not there and they're in a competitive division. 231 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: You look at the Diamondbacks as well as the Padres 232 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: and Dodgers. It's a rough go in there. So I 233 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: don't know where they're going with this, and who knows, Alana. 234 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they may make the playoffs because they can ride 235 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: the backs of their rotation anxiety safe, but there is 236 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: a lot of discontent in that fan base, a lot 237 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: of people who want to see more out of this team. 238 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: So while he got an extension just recently, yeah, I 239 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: would imagine he is on the hot seat. 240 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 3: I wanted Blake Snail to go to Los Angeles for 241 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: obvious reasons, but there's no way that they would trade 242 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: within the division, certainly not to their arch rival. 243 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: We talked about it a little bit. 244 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: Ken as my number one loser of the trade deadline 245 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: really for twenty twenty four, but my goodness, the White 246 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: Sox are historically bad. Where does this franchise go from here? 247 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. And there was some criticism within the 248 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: industry of the hall that they got at the deadline 249 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: for the three major leaguers they traded in that three 250 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: team deal. Remember they traded Eric Fetti with another year 251 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: of control, Michael Kopek with another year of control, Tommy 252 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: fam expiring contract. You trade those three guys and you 253 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: only get back Miguel Vargas and two prospects that are 254 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: decent but not like top one hundred guys. That's questionable, 255 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of people were questioning that and Alon 256 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: I will say again, as I've said throughout the deadline, 257 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: you never know. It might turn out that the next 258 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: Fertando Tattoos Junior is in this trade and they got them. 259 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: But at the same time, they needed to do better, 260 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: and I almost think they should have separated those guys 261 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: and gotten better value for them that way. The Cardinals 262 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: really wanted Fam, I get it. But at the same time, 263 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: you wonder where they're going because the Dylan cs trade 264 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: that was not well received by the industry either, and 265 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: this one as well. The same kind of thing. Doesn't 266 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: mean they made bad trades. That is not something that 267 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: will be determined for several more years. But they are 268 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: a complete mess. And yeah, they're going to change managers, 269 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: I would imagine either today or the next few days, 270 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: because they want to get someone in there who will 271 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: be better with their younger players as they start to 272 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: promote the prospect Montgomery and some of the others in 273 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: their organization. It is a losing culture. It is a 274 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: losing organization, and obviously they've got some work to do. 275 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: You know, I talked to you about the Rockies being 276 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: too loyal at times. 277 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: Is Reinstorf too loyal? 278 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: You can make that case. And I found it really 279 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: interesting that when he let go of rickhon and Kenny Williams, 280 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: the two guys who had been there forever as the 281 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: heads of their front office, he turned to an internal 282 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: choice and Chris Getz, who was their farm director at 283 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: the time. Now, Chris Getz is a really smart guy. 284 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: He's a former player. He may very well turn out 285 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: to be a really good GM. But the way I 286 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: saw it then and even the way I see it 287 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: looking back, you need someone from the outside to come 288 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: in and say, Okay, let's rip this thing up, let's 289 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: bring some fresh ideas in. They didn't want that. Now 290 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: Chris Getz obviously has fresh ideas, but they needed a 291 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: whole injection of new energy, and they didn't get that 292 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: when they made that change. So you could argue that 293 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: Reinsdorf hung on to Kenny Williams and Ricon for too long. 294 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: You can argue he made the wrong choice here, and 295 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: their fans are understandably frustrated by the position this team 296 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: is in. They're a high revenue team, folks, They're in Chicago, 297 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: and yet they're in a complete mess right now. 298 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Chicago Baseball and generalisms, and I think the fan base. 299 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: Ken could argue that Chris Getz is trading away guys 300 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: that he failed to develop when he was the farm 301 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: director for this team. 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I legitimately live in this stuff. 318 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: I absolutely love it all right time now for Grill 319 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: and Ken as we get into some of the questions 320 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: here for Ken Rosenthal on this Monday episode of Fair Territory, 321 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: Ken and Alana, do you think Clay Holmes can be 322 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: an effective postseason closer for the Yankees? If not him, 323 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: who would be best? 324 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: Again? 325 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: They added two relievers, but they are both right handed, 326 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: swing and miss guys to the back end of that bullpen. 327 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,239 Speaker 3: What is your take on Clay Holmes. 328 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they have a choice. Clay Holmes is 329 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: their closer and they didn't go out and get Tanner Scott. 330 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: So Clay Holmes, while he has struggled of late, has 331 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: been really good over the last couple of years. They 332 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: just need to get him right. It's almost like with 333 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: Evan Phillips in Los Angeles with the Dodgers. Evan Phillips 334 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: has been really good for a while. Now now he's 335 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: struggling at the moment. Not to say that he can't 336 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: come back and be what he was before. And it's 337 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: the same with Clay Holmes. 338 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: All right. 339 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: There's another question here regarding the Arizona Diamondbacks from Sprucey 340 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: Underscore eleven level of concern for Snakes fans with Sea 341 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: Walk Christian Walker landing on the il. 342 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: Legit concern and high concern because it's an oblique and 343 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: obliques can be tricky. This was reported to be the 344 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: mildest form, but I don't buy any of that until 345 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: he's back. He's not ready, and we'll see where this 346 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: goes because obliques, again, they sometimes take longer than people think. 347 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: It's not that easy. I will say the Diamondbacks did 348 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: really well to react quickly and get Josh Bell from 349 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: the Marlins as a temporary replacement for Christian Walker. Christian 350 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Walker means an awful lot to that team. He's a 351 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: huge part of their offense, the defense too. He's a 352 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: great defender. So this is a blow and let's just 353 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: hope he gets back soon. 354 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. He is a huge part 355 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: of that team. 356 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: Joe Mama has this question for you, Ken, Hey, Ken, 357 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: I wonder which one is your pick, old school baseball 358 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: without analytics or baseball with analytics. Also, have you ever 359 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: been thrown out of a game asking for a friend? 360 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: Baseball with analytics is the preference, And that's kind of 361 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: a weird choice. We're not going back to old baseball 362 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: without analytics. It's not happening. We've advanced as a sport, 363 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: we've advanced as a society, all these things. We have, 364 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: all this information. We can use it now. There is 365 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: a legitimate question about the balance, and some teams go 366 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: too far with the analytics. Some teams don't pay enough attention, 367 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: perhaps to the human element. I believe. Actually it's changing 368 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: and it's getting to a better place as far as 369 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 1: the mix. Teams are paying more attention to make up 370 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: and things like that. But it's not like one or 371 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: the other. You can't look at it that way. It's gone. 372 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: The horse has left the barn. As for whether I've 373 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: been ever thrown out of a game, no, the answer 374 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: is no. 375 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 3: I can't imagine you being thrown out of anything like 376 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: I just I don't. 377 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't. 378 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: I don't see you ever being to the point where. 379 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: Well in college. In college, I go to an arcade 380 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: back where people played pinball and I and they throw 381 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: me out of the arcade. That did happen? 382 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: You're such a bad boy, Ken Rosenthal. Oh goodness, all right. 383 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: You had mentioned that you thought the Angels could do more. 384 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 3: Eric's vhsays the same question. Were the Angels asking too 385 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 3: much for Taylor Ward, Rin Pifo and Tyler Anderson. 386 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, and more information 387 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: perhaps on that will come in the days ahead. I 388 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: will say this, while I didn't like it, and I 389 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: thought the Angels should have taken advantage of a seller's market, 390 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: they can still revisit this in the off season. Each 391 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: of those guys has an additional year of control. Taylor 392 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: Ward has two years of control beyond this year, and 393 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: once the off season comes and the free agent market 394 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: starts to percolate and the prices are high, then perhaps 395 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: a guy like Nhifo in particular will look that much 396 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: more attractive to teams. That said, the overarching question with 397 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: the Angels always is what is the plan? Where are 398 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: we going with this? Are we tearing down? Are we 399 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: going forward? Are we building up? If you're building up, oh, 400 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: that's questionable in the first place because Trout and Rendon 401 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: are always injured. And also it's questionable because Addie Moreno 402 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: isn't going to spend the necessary money. So if you're 403 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: not building up and you're not tearing down, you're caught 404 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: in the middle, which is where they are. And it's 405 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: a baseball purgatory. 406 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a terrible place to be. And I tell 407 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: you what, I don't know. 408 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 3: But Anthony Rendon I'm fed up with and I shouldn't 409 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: be like. I mean, maybe he's legitimately hurt all the time, 410 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: but my god, the man does not play ever. 411 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: All Right, Alana, I. 412 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: Love Mike Trout, but you can say the same thing 413 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: you'rebout Mike Trout. 414 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: I agree. I agree. 415 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: There's just a difference in personality though, I think that's 416 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: what gets me the most. 417 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 2: Sorry, So this is a This is from Jay. 418 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: Sorry if I missed the answer to this, you didn't, Jake, 419 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 3: because we haven't addressed it. Why would Mike Rizzo hold 420 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: on to Kyle Finnegan when it seemed like he was 421 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 3: a good time to sell relievers? 422 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: All right? That one, apparently is because there weren't offers 423 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: that Rizzo found acceptable. He made really good deals for 424 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: Lane Thomas for one and Hunter Harvey for another, and 425 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: both of those guys had an extra year of control 426 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: like Kyle Finnegan. So at that point I thought he 427 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: would trade Finnegan too, but evidently nothing lined up at 428 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: the end. And again, Finnegan's a guy you can trade 429 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 1: in the off season if you want. He'll be very valuable, 430 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: then not as valuable because it will be one Pennant 431 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: race he'll be available for instead of two. But it's 432 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: not like it's over for them with Finnegan. 433 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're totally a rebuilding as well there 434 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: in Washington. How about this with the Atlanta Braves. What 435 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: do you think about the future decision the Braves will 436 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 3: have to make. 437 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: With the Solai trade two DH guys. 438 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: With him Ozuna and Acunya possibly needing some DH time. 439 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: That question from Elon, very good question, and the question 440 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: I had my own head myself, because Soleira's going to 441 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: play the outfield. He is playing the outfield for them. 442 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: He's not an outfielder. He was a DH the entire 443 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: time in San Francisco and really for quite some time 444 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: in his career. So they're in this kind of funny 445 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: place with that right now, I would not be surprised 446 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: to see Solra on the move again at some point, 447 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: not this season, but maybe in the off season, because 448 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: I don't know that this is particularly tenable to have 449 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: both those guys and only one DH. 450 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: What do you think is harder going from DH to 451 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: an outfielder like Solaargis did, or going from an outfielder 452 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: to third base like Jazz Chisholm just did. 453 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: I would think what Chisholm has done in the middle 454 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: of a pennant race when he's never played in nine 455 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: professional seasons that position, that is really difficult. And again 456 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: I'm not all down with this one. I'm kind of 457 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: fearful that it's not going to go as well as 458 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: the Yankees think, though it certainly is off to a 459 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: good start. Hard to question, and he's a great athlete, 460 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: so you would think he could pick it up. So 461 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: there is a different kind of challenge because he's not 462 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: as athletic and now he has to go play the outfield. 463 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: But he can do it. He's done it in his past, 464 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: So I would say Chisholm playing a new position for 465 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: the first time in nine professional seasons in the middle 466 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: of a preennant race. That's pretty hard. Well. 467 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: It also helped if their second baseman decided that he 468 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: would change position for the betterment of the team. 469 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: But Labor right, hold on, hold on. 470 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: But the thing with that, Alana is it's his free 471 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: agent year, and that's a tough ask of Glaber Torres. 472 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: I know we all think these guys should do whatever 473 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: the team asks, but he's had enough difficulties this year, 474 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: and I think next year what will happen is Glabor 475 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: goes and Jazz goes back to second base. 476 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I don't think Labor Torus 477 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 3: is the Yankee next year. 478 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: Of course. 479 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 3: All right, this one on the Oakland Athletics. Were you 480 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: surprised Oakland didn't take an advantage of a seller's market, 481 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: could have gotten hauls for sears, bledet Rooker and Miller. 482 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: Was not surprised, only because they were signaling this for 483 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: the weeks leading to the deadline. They were basically saying, hey, 484 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: we are making progress here, and let's not forget the 485 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: A's had the best record in baseball in July. It's 486 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: no joke. They actually did. I think it was fifteen 487 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: and eight. So their position is we're tired of losing. 488 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: We're tired of giving players up and just getting prospects 489 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: when we're making progress here of de Marcotte. The players 490 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: want to win, Kotsee wants to win, the front office 491 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: wants to win, and hey, we're going to go forward. Now. 492 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: I understand that thinking, and I applauded and I appreciate 493 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: it greatly. The problem is Mason Miller. In this market, 494 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: he is still a reliever. He is a guy that 495 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: you don't know is going to be great for the 496 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: next five years because relievers are so volidle and he's 497 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: got an injury history. Now I know he heard his 498 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: pinky on his glove hand and he's out for a 499 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: little bit, but you still could have traded him. Players 500 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: on the injured list did get traded, and that was 501 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: the one guy. I thought, you know what, take advantage 502 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: of this, see what you can get, and they probably 503 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: would have done quite well. So they didn't do that. 504 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: I kind of like it in a lot of ways 505 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: because it's not giving up. But at the same time, 506 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: in terms of pure market forces, the time was probably 507 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: right to trade Mason Miller, and they didn't do it. 508 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 3: I love Mark Kotse saying, in this organization, we tell 509 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: the truth. He didn't break it getting on a training table. 510 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 3: He punched something because it was upset and. 511 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: He broke it. 512 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 3: What's a harder job, in your opinion, or the least 513 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: entice job being the manager of the Miami Marlins or 514 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: being the manager of the Oakland Athletics. 515 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: Difficult to say, because they're both brutal jobs. I would 516 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: say right now, I'd rather be Kostsee. And you mentioned 517 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: Skip Schumacher likely leaving at the end of this season. 518 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: I expect he will leave because, you know what, the Marlins, 519 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: it's going to take longer the way they're going about it. 520 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: They're not going to spend money this offseason. They don't 521 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: do that. The A's, well, I don't expect them to 522 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: spend money either, but they're going to Sacramento and in 523 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: theory they're supposed to be ramping up to Las Vegas 524 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: at some point. Believe it when you see it. But 525 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: the A's kind of have some things going well now. 526 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: Their offense is much improved. They look much more like 527 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: a real team. They've got to get their rotation somewhat 528 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 1: in a better place, and maybe they'll spend money on 529 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: that this offseason, But I guess I'd rather be the 530 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: A's manager, even though I'm going to Sacramento. 531 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: All right, this is regarding the Pirates. 532 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: Justin Mackenzie wants to know, do you think the Pirates 533 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: trades of this deadline consider them going for it or 534 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 3: still reserving themselves? 535 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: They went after it a little bit. 536 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: By their definition, they definitely went after it. Now. I 537 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: wrote about them a little bit in my recent column. 538 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: I said the Pirates essentially did Pirates things. They were 539 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: smaller moves on the margins. I liked ikf. That was 540 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: a good trade for them, a good addition for sure, 541 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: But they didn't go bigger. Now, it's hard to fault them, 542 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: and it's hard to fault the Brewers and the Guardians 543 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: and the Orioles, three other teams, lower revenue positions that 544 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: didn't really go crazy because the quality of player just 545 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: wasn't there. So if you're going to rip the Pirates 546 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: or any of those other teams I just mentioned, tell 547 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 1: me what should they have done? Which players should they 548 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: have gotten? Should they have gotten in the Pirates case 549 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: of Rosarina, Okay, maybe you can make that case, but 550 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: the prices were high for these guys, and the Pirates 551 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: are our team that has gotten to this point with 552 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: young talent and believe that they can do it going 553 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: forward with young talent. So I'm not gonna fault them 554 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: too much. But at some point, you've got Paul Skins, 555 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: you will have Jared Jones healthy. I'm talking about going 556 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: into twenty five. It's time for them to start acting 557 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: like a team. That's good because when you've got Skins, 558 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: you've got a weapon that who knows how long it 559 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: will last at the max, it's probably six years right 560 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: before it becomes a free agent. You have to seize 561 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: the moment. 562 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can only ride that. We're looking towards the 563 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: future train for so long time. Now to get into 564 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 3: Dude and dork of the week, this is where Ken 565 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: and I have an opportunity to praise a guy and 566 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: also kind of, uh, not really rip a guy, but 567 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 3: have a you know, kind of a scratching our head moment. 568 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: So who is your dude of the week? 569 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: Mentioned him earlier and I am proud to say my 570 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: dude of the week is Tommy fam And last year, 571 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: right after the deadline, the Mets people told me this 572 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: guy is a big loss for us. He was a 573 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: huge part of helping make our players better and Francisco 574 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: Lindora confirm that. For me this deadline, Tommy Fam was 575 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: a player that Cardinals players were going into Ali Marmele's 576 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: office and asking him to have the team acquire They 577 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: wanted this guy back. Remember he started with the Cardinals, 578 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: didn't then great the first time. He is a competitor 579 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: and we saw in his first at bat with the 580 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals what he is capable of grand slam. I know 581 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: people perceive him as kind of a tough guy, you know, 582 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: the whole thing with the slap and everything else that 583 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: he's gone through in his career. He burns, burns to win, 584 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: and that's why the Cardinals wanted him. And good for 585 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: Tommy Fam getting back there, making a team admit that 586 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: they made a mistake, and of course doing what he 587 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: did in his first at bat. 588 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: All right, I'm with you there on Tommy Fam. I'm 589 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 3: gonna pick Bobby witt Junior Ken Nobody has had a 590 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 3: season like or a month rather that Bobby wit Junior 591 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 3: has as far as July was concerned, except for Lou Garrig. 592 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: If you take a look at what wit did. He 593 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: had forty five hits in a four to eighty nine 594 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: batting average. The last Big leaguer with at least that 595 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 3: many hits and that high of a batting average in 596 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: a calendar month Lou Garrig in June of nineteen thirty. 597 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: He had fifty five hits and a four ninety five 598 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 3: batting average. Bobby Wood Junior has just been such a 599 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 3: tremendous lift for the Kansas City Royals. They were smart 600 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 3: to lock him up long term. He's just a pleasure 601 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: to watch, so he is. 602 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: My dude of the week. Good on you. 603 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 3: I'd love to see Kansas City in the postseason. I'd 604 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: love to see this kid be able to take some 605 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 3: postseason at bats. What about your dork of the week? 606 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: My dork of the week actually is a building. It's 607 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: a building that has drawn much scorn in Major League Baseball. 608 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: It's a building we will not be seeing much of 609 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: beyond the near future. And I'm talking, of course, about 610 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: Tropicana Field. Lost in the deadline madness was the fact 611 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: that a new ballpark for the Rays finally got all 612 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: the approval it needed. It will open in twenty twenty eight, 613 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: and the trop will be no more. This will be 614 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: a roof stadium, a retractable roof, And I'm really looking 615 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: forward to seeing baseball continue in Tampa Bay and seeing 616 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: if it can pick up a little bit in Tampa 617 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 1: Bay with a new ballpark. And good for the Rays. 618 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: They worked really hard to get this done. The Trap 619 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: is my dork of the week. 620 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: All right, Zach Eflin was pretty psyched about pitching in 621 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: front of Orioles fans, So the atmosphere is a little 622 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: bit different at Camden Yards than it was at the Trap. 623 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: My dork of the week is all of the jerks 624 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: on social media that think that they're keyboard warriors that 625 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: think it is okay and appropriate to give players death 626 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: threats and threaten their family because a player isn't performing 627 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: to the level that you think they should be performing at. 628 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: Mitch Garver said, this is by far the worst I've 629 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: ever played in my career. It's tough on myself, tough 630 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: on my family. The death threats and the retire and 631 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: you suck and expletive kill yourself and all of that 632 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: stuff is getting old. But the only way it changes 633 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: is to play better. This is unacceptable behavior. These people 634 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 3: are players. But before they are players, They are people 635 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: first that they have families. Do you think that they 636 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 3: want to play poorly? Do you think that they not 637 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: want to throw strikes, or they don't want to get hits, 638 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: or they want to make mistakes? Be better, Be better, 639 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: and stop with the nonsense of death threats. 640 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: To players. It's ridiculous. 641 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: Agreed one thousand percent. And I should say also, Mitch 642 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: Garver is one of the more level headed guys in 643 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: the game, so for him to say that, obviously he 644 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: feels like there have been some things said that just 645 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: were inappropriate. 646 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: And honestly, it really affects the families. I have countless 647 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: wives of players that have really been affected by this. 648 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: When you start to threaten players' families and particularly their children, 649 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: that that's a line that should never be crossed. And 650 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: and MLB security does get involved in these types of situations, 651 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: and it's not just for players, it's you and I too. Ken, 652 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: this has happened to us, at least I can speak 653 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: for myself. It's happened to me, So just just be back. Yeah, 654 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 3: I'm certain that it has all right. We are going 655 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: to say goodbye. Ken is actually going to a an 656 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 3: undisclosed location next right. I believe that he has an 657 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 3: umbrella in a drink somewhere. So I will be with 658 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: you solo on Fair Territory on Monday. But let's thank 659 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: our friends at bet MGM for being a part of 660 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 3: our show today and always. Before we go, let's shut 661 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: out the bet MGM first bet fifteen hundred dollars offer 662 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 3: when you use bonus code foul. 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I have a good 673 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: week the following We'll see the following Monday. 674 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: Foul Territory is next. 675 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: We've got some good guests on Foul territory, Orioles, Grayson Rodriguez, 676 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 3: ESPN Chicago's Jesse Rodgers Twins reporter Dan Hayes from The Athletic, 677 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: joining Aj Pierson, Ski, Scott Braun, Eric Kratz. 678 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: After that, it is Dodgers territory with myself and Clint 679 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: the US. Thanks for being with us. By Ken, we'll 680 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: see in a week. Thanks a lot him, Yeah,