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Speaker 2: Oh, let me ask you about crypto. You know you're

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Speaker 2: a crypto enthusiast, and the crypto market has been down

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Speaker 2: just like the stock market has been down. So a

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Speaker 2: lot of people you know have lost money in crypto

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Speaker 2: this year. They have a lot of people are nervous

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Speaker 2: a lot of people. You know, it's a lot of issues,

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Speaker 2: security issues. What's your current thoughts on the state of crypto?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, that's a heavy one because I think that

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Speaker 3: crypto will benefit from clear regulation once it come in, right.

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Speaker 3: I think that a lot of the crypto space, a

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Speaker 3: lot of the blockchain space, right is right now in limbo.

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Speaker 3: The reason I say clear regulation is because you can't

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Speaker 3: really build without fear of knowing whether when you build

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Speaker 3: something successful is going to be attack layer by the

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Speaker 3: sec because you didn't know that you broke a rule

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Speaker 3: that doesn't exist yet.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: So, companies I believe that are fearful of putting too

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Speaker 3: much money in this space.

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Speaker 4: And a lot of companies got cash reserves that.

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Speaker 3: Are sitting on the side right now that they have

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Speaker 3: probably loved to employ with some of these ideas, right

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Speaker 3: to get them some exposure in some of these companies, but.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to later have that money tied up

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Speaker 4: into a legal battle. Right. So I think that clear

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Speaker 3: People to easily communicate like, Yo, this is an asset class.

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Speaker 4: If you invest in this.

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Speaker 3: Maybe five to ten years you'll be solid to hold.

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Speaker 3: But there's so many security concerns and legal concerns that

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Speaker 3: what the rules are completely right, and I think that

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Speaker 3: crypto space. But I'm saying that as far as clarity

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Speaker 4: You can't go one.

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Speaker 3: Hundred miles per hour until you know the speed limit. Like,

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Speaker 3: if they say it's one hundred miles per hour, I

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Speaker 3: can go. They say it's sixty, Okay, we're gonna put

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Speaker 4: You feel me. So I think that crypto has a

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Speaker 3: I think that we can see crypto going, you know,

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Speaker 4: Might clip this up?

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Speaker 3: Listen, so going I can see bigcoin going to eight,

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Speaker 3: then it's possibly going to three. You understand me. Those

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because I'm not a I'm not

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Speaker 3: I see this this, nigga, it's not why you're here.

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Speaker 3: I see what brother Ed been seeing. Man, I see

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Speaker 3: what you've been seeing. Because it is a very real possibility.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, I don't think this is a

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Speaker 4: you triple you double down. Lets get to eight where

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Speaker 4: I'm piling heavy. Eight is my sweet spot.

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Speaker 3: If you get to three, then I want to sell

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Speaker 3: That's that's it, like the rolexes, the gold, everything gotta go.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen Keys predicts Bigcoin will go to eight thousand.

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Speaker 4: That's the headline. Might put this up.

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Speaker 3: It's a little crazy eight Hollywood lot gonna be on

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Speaker 3: in the comments. Take though, is will rippling now right Ripple,

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Speaker 3: And right now their legal situation is at this point

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing Ripple actually expand right now during these times

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Speaker 3: To win, Ripple rips away and Ripple can take over

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Speaker 4: What's your thoughts on NFTs? Great question, y'all. Remember when

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I've told people I don't care about the market.

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Speaker 3: It's about the creative use case of it, right, because

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Speaker 3: the technology is the value.

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Speaker 4: This is what everybody was getting wrong with. Everybody was

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Speaker 3: NFTs were never supposed to be a commodity that was

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Speaker 4: It popped up because of the art use that people

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Speaker 4: But nft were never made to be traded.

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Speaker 3: Commodities that go up to seventy thousand, one hundred thousand,

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Speaker 4: Right. It was more so about these are now ways

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Speaker 3: Digital assets that can be linked to value, right, that

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Speaker 3: better for the space. If eighty percent of businesses failed,

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Speaker 3: while wouldn't god damn ninety percent of a completely new, unregulated,

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Speaker 4: Having new businesses Because that's what I.

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Speaker 5: Looked at the mask he said they had no value.

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Speaker 3: But now the projects, if a project literally has no value,

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Speaker 3: If they say just buy this because it's an NFT,

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Speaker 3: What's the value proposition? And most people needn't look at

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Speaker 3: what is the value proposition of this digital idea that

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Speaker 3: I buy? Right, So that's like me creating a storefront

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Speaker 4: That's the end of the transaction. Right. Nobody's want to

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Speaker 3: They want a product, they want a service, they want

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Speaker 3: I think this is actually the best time. But I

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Speaker 3: think this is my advice to people. Don't call it

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Speaker 3: best thing you can do to increase to sell NFTs

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Speaker 3: is do not call it an NFT. And right now,

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Speaker 3: I say, listen, I don't do personal consultations. But I

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Speaker 4: Point in time, right limit it.

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Speaker 3: So there's a long list of people that want to

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Speaker 3: I got this ecosystem where if you get one point,

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Speaker 3: you know you can get a fifteen minute consultation. If

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Speaker 3: you have two points, you can get an in person consultation. Now,

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Speaker 3: the way that you get those points you have to

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Speaker 3: go to them all way site, and certain items that

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Speaker 3: you buy come along with points that you can you

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Speaker 3: So you buy this item, right, this digital asset, and

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Speaker 3: fifty points, the other one comes with twenty five points.

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Speaker 4: The other one comes with another twenty five points.

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Speaker 3: So now people are buying these points because they want

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Speaker 3: this consort. If I say buy NFT, the emotions right

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Speaker 3: and a connotation, and all of the news attached to

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Speaker 3: an NFT is based upon this trading value board, the yacht, all.

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Speaker 4: Of these different things.

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Speaker 3: But if I say the point, it's just a product

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Speaker 3: access to a service, right, And I'm utilizing non fungible

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Speaker 3: I'm doing or SBTS, which is so ball tokens which

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Speaker 3: people started rolling out right if they want lifetim membership

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Speaker 3: where they can't trade it a movement which I think

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Speaker 3: is completely better than NFTs. It's getting directly to what

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Speaker 3: is the value. So now you assess this thing from

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Speaker 3: value rather than FuG. Right, the fear of missing out

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Speaker 3: not FuG but that't fear a certainty doubt, but their

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Speaker 3: fomo rather.

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Speaker 4: So I think that by calling it same thing with Larrussell.

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Speaker 3: You seen Larussell, right, they got a platform where they

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Speaker 3: were selling music. So let's say that music that he

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Speaker 3: sold is an NFT. He don't have to ever say NFT,

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Speaker 3: you're buying my music. Most people are looking at the technology.

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Speaker 3: The demonize the technology because the brand of it is

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Speaker 3: being misused. But the technology is still as valuable as ever,

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Speaker 3: so I think don't call it the NFT, and I

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Speaker 3: think that the industry grows.

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Speaker 2: My graduates from my school being forced back drop drop

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Speaker 2: Mike Dropp