Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black
Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to a very special Legends edition of All the Smoke. Jack,
Speaker 1: what's up with you? Man? I'm good Man, I'm happy today. Man.
Speaker 1: This is this is some real big hey. We got
Speaker 1: we got some real ship today. Jack. We got two
Speaker 1: legends man been in the game over thirty five years
Speaker 1: each and still pushing. Man. Welcome to the show. E
Speaker 1: forty and Too Short. We appreciate you all, man, Man, legends.
Speaker 1: Man appreciate you'all. What's up? What's up to on this platform? Man?
Speaker 1: We appreciate we We heard they said, uh, we got
Speaker 1: short and forty. That's good. I was like, huh, both
Speaker 1: of them? Sto what like it? In yes, sir man, Man,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you all. Man. So I'm gonna get right
Speaker 1: to it. Mount Westmore, what's that mean? Talk to us?
Speaker 1: It's big? I see I hear Let him know Short,
Speaker 1: explain that project? So Mount Westmore is it is uh
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg, ice Cube, forty and Too Short, and we
Speaker 1: all came together to do a project. And it's not
Speaker 1: it's it's not an album. It's it's just a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot of lot of music that it's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be probably like three projects when it's all setting done.
Speaker 1: But the whole point of it is we we do
Speaker 1: a lot of shows together, and every time we do
Speaker 1: a show, the show sells out. And basically ice Cube
Speaker 1: forty forty his manager ran it down to ice Cube forty,
Speaker 1: ice Q ran it down to me. We all called Snoop.
Speaker 1: Everybody's on board, and it's like instead of like having
Speaker 1: some promoter book us to do a show call off
Speaker 1: for agency managers and stuff, we we we just came
Speaker 1: together vote Troyn and it's like, now we control the beach,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? We we we can we
Speaker 1: control everything. And then and then instantly when we joined forces,
Speaker 1: all these other doors start opening up, Like what no
Speaker 1: matter what's going on in each one of our lives
Speaker 1: business wise, now we just opened up a whole new
Speaker 1: can of worms, and what can we do as a partnership.
Speaker 1: So people have been saying like, you guys are a
Speaker 1: supergroup and we're kind of like been like Nab were
Speaker 1: just really just a business man. We just came together
Speaker 1: and make a whole lot of bread together. So you know,
Speaker 1: give me your spin on the earl. You said, you
Speaker 1: know we you know, we're a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: We wear many hats, everybody play their position. You know.
Speaker 1: We we are lllc's you understand me. We are and
Speaker 1: you know sure don't like call him the supergroup, but
Speaker 1: that's that's just the word. It is that we're super
Speaker 1: we are supergroup. May you know we you got two
Speaker 1: of the best you understand me, from northern California, which
Speaker 1: is up top, and then you got two of the
Speaker 1: best from Southern California, which is you know down south.
Speaker 1: You know, Southern can for you. So you know that's
Speaker 1: La La land. You got the Ya area, You got
Speaker 1: a lot of land you dig. Yeah, yeah, man. So
Speaker 1: you know we put it together like the weather. You
Speaker 1: dig and we and Shure might say we got three
Speaker 1: some three hours and we got we got four of
Speaker 1: them things. Because every day we're turning in new tracks.
Speaker 1: We ain't stopping, we ain't letting up, and it's just
Speaker 1: it's just what we do anyway, you know, especially during
Speaker 1: during the planned dimmic, we got a little more time
Speaker 1: on our hand, you feel me. So we we got
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of planning we all are
Speaker 1: doing we you know we we we um we're perfecting
Speaker 1: our passing projects. You know, we got a lot going on,
Speaker 1: and you know we ain't gonna let grass growing too
Speaker 1: our feet. Man, We're gonna keep it moving hell on
Speaker 1: as you should. During the klandemic, Jack, I know you
Speaker 1: caught that. Do we have a we got a target
Speaker 1: date for the drop or for the drop for the
Speaker 1: first project. Just look out for like look out for
Speaker 1: like some visuals. Man. You know we got you know,
Speaker 1: snoop dog snoop Dogs a superstar, like a mega starter
Speaker 1: man got was seventy million and something on Instagram or something.
Speaker 1: But you know, uh ice Ki was a filmmaker and
Speaker 1: he's real passionate about what the visuals of Mault Westmore
Speaker 1: are gonna look like. So we're in good hands. May
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that, uh we got forty the
Speaker 1: hustling in the group, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: like every phone call is another there's another like business venture.
Speaker 1: Every time I pick up the phone. With these deals,
Speaker 1: they're like many we got hey, we can speaking a bit,
Speaker 1: so we got so we just pitched Snooped this business project.
Speaker 1: And his manager, white Boy Calves, like, Yo, we need
Speaker 1: to piss this to the whole uh, the Westmore group.
Speaker 1: So we got something waiting on deck for y'all too,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna bring it to you in about a
Speaker 1: week or so. It's something heavy exactly. Yeah. I hope
Speaker 1: we do link up, man because uh, you know so
Speaker 1: um obviously a year to forget a lot of terrible
Speaker 1: ship happened. What did you guys take away from you know,
Speaker 1: with did was to some of the not just not
Speaker 1: us because we you know us, A lot of us
Speaker 1: are really really close to our families, you know, but
Speaker 1: it's some, it's some. It's some people that work a
Speaker 1: lot and they travel and they're really not home with
Speaker 1: their family. I think what it did was brought families
Speaker 1: closer together when you know, you can find and I
Speaker 1: don't care if you in together or the suburbs, wherever
Speaker 1: you at. I think it brought a lot of people
Speaker 1: together that it brought the key is closer to their dads,
Speaker 1: their parents, mom, you know, the daughters close to their mom,
Speaker 1: the sons closer to their dad. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of cats don't even know how to you know, take
Speaker 1: some take take some nails and do the and and
Speaker 1: take a bent nail and straighten it out and reuse
Speaker 1: it again. You know, some people don't know how to
Speaker 1: cut grass. They may they may have learned that in
Speaker 1: the last nine ten months, you know, dealing with dealing
Speaker 1: with the plandemic. You did what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: some some some of the female or some of the
Speaker 1: little young ladies, they might not have knew how to cook.
Speaker 1: Now they there, you know, got Martha Stewart's status. Now
Speaker 1: you ain't telling that, you know, you know, you know
Speaker 1: you look at it like this too. Man. So you've
Speaker 1: got guys like us who for years a lot of
Speaker 1: people are in the position that we're in, Like there
Speaker 1: was a steady income stream and a you know, a
Speaker 1: large part of our careers were to travel around and
Speaker 1: perform for people, and that that brought in a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of income. So you kicked back and
Speaker 1: you get all this time, and you know, on one end,
Speaker 1: you're like, I do feel like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: value and having more time to not be traveling around
Speaker 1: in the airports all the time and hotels. But then
Speaker 1: on the other side, you're like, man, what am I
Speaker 1: gonna do about this paper that ain't coming in no
Speaker 1: more So if you're a real hustling, you sit around
Speaker 1: and you know, they said it was gonna be two
Speaker 1: weeks time out, then it was gonna be a month.
Speaker 1: He was gonna be back up and running April. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting around going, you know, it's like, May, we ain't
Speaker 1: getting out this this pandemic. I'm like, bro, we gotta
Speaker 1: get on the grind, you know what I'm saying. So basically,
Speaker 1: when you lose all the distractions of what what life
Speaker 1: was with the airplanes all the time, got all these engagements,
Speaker 1: it's always like a red carpet Evan, Now I'm one
Speaker 1: of this, this, this part of this club, this this,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, listening party. It's just always
Speaker 1: it was always something every day, all day, and that
Speaker 1: kind of that whole socializing at the Flash restaurant every day.
Speaker 1: You know, all that kind of slowed down and all
Speaker 1: you got is time, and you're like, Okay, what am
Speaker 1: I gonna do it this time? I'm a hustler. You
Speaker 1: just start zoom meetings, phone calls, whatever it was, and
Speaker 1: you know, and and and and it's like whoa. The
Speaker 1: whole a whole new world opened up that. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're hustling, you just adapt. So I know there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people out here that ain't doing good
Speaker 1: through this. A lot of people are thriving through this.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, if you're hustling, you are hustler, go
Speaker 1: for it. Just if you ain't, if you ain't out
Speaker 1: that socializing, get on clubhouse and socialize, do something, get
Speaker 1: it going, keep it going. Definitely was I there. You know,
Speaker 1: Jack and I have been blessed from that kind of standpoint.
Speaker 1: Obviously he lost his brother George, but we've been able
Speaker 1: to hustle through the pandemic. You know, this is when
Speaker 1: we really we kind of trying to strategize, like what
Speaker 1: what do our fans need in this pandemic? You know,
Speaker 1: we're used to shooting shows in Santa Monica and in
Speaker 1: New York, and then we got on this solo, this
Speaker 1: this zoom grind and been bringing people content because, like
Speaker 1: you said, Short, a lot of motherfucker's don't know what
Speaker 1: to do right now. They confused, they stuck. So we
Speaker 1: in here trying to encourage and motivate them and show
Speaker 1: them the way, you know what I mean, when when
Speaker 1: it's a downtime it's still time to hustle. You can
Speaker 1: still get out there and eat and then you know
Speaker 1: you it is what you make it with this whole push.
Speaker 1: You know, Jack was on the face of something this
Speaker 1: past summer that not only touched every state in the
Speaker 1: United States but also sixteen countries. Um. Obviously when he
Speaker 1: lost his brother, George Floyd. What what was your guys thinking,
Speaker 1: because you alreay seen a lot uh of this of
Speaker 1: this social justice movement and kind of this shifting power
Speaker 1: that you know, our ancestors and and and all the
Speaker 1: great before us have been working on for some of
Speaker 1: the years. But I'm gonna go, uh, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: like this man me personally, UM, I read a lot,
Speaker 1: and I studied history a lot, and I just try
Speaker 1: to like no, you know, people's stories like what happened
Speaker 1: and just knowing like the the way we had to
Speaker 1: like dig in just to learn about the slavery times,
Speaker 1: Like it was nothing given to us in school or
Speaker 1: anything to educate us on this. And you got to
Speaker 1: grow up as a grown man and start reading and
Speaker 1: talking to people and learning about your people before you
Speaker 1: like what what went down? And then you hear about uh,
Speaker 1: black people got freed from slavery, and they landed right
Speaker 1: in Jim Crow, which is was probably some people say
Speaker 1: that was worse than slavery, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And we can go into detail what all that was,
Speaker 1: but it was a very bad situation. And then you've
Speaker 1: got civil rights and you come out of it with
Speaker 1: all these freedoms, but it keeps I keep smelling Jim Crow,
Speaker 1: I keep smelling slavery. I keep like, you can't tell me.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me that making up a bunch of
Speaker 1: laws and you know how to crack hit the hood
Speaker 1: and all this all this stuff that ends up with
Speaker 1: mass incarceration with two million people in jail, mostly black
Speaker 1: and brown people, And you're like, you can't tell me that.
Speaker 1: That just ain't somebody right after civil rights going, man,
Speaker 1: we gotta keep the slavery thing going. Jim Crow was
Speaker 1: just a renewing slavery. So I'm like, I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: when I see when I see George Floyd and I
Speaker 1: see all the other incidents, and it's not just when
Speaker 1: people die, it's just you getting your ass kick, You're
Speaker 1: getting trumped up charges, you're getting harassed for no reason.
Speaker 1: And when I see that man, I'm like, how much
Speaker 1: different can that be from Jim Crow? How much different
Speaker 1: can that be from slavery? And you're going, oh, y'all free,
Speaker 1: you can go out, you can go to college. But
Speaker 1: I spead a guy. Man. The opportunities that came to
Speaker 1: us does not come to everybody. I know, everybody I
Speaker 1: came up with, Like a lot of folks just even
Speaker 1: have a way out, man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we do get treated. I go in the room
Speaker 1: full of white people and they showed me love, not
Speaker 1: going in in the room full of agents. They showing
Speaker 1: me love. I'm a celebrity, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You're a ball player, and they love us for what
Speaker 1: we do. But the same my same. I had a
Speaker 1: twin brother who didn't wrap, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and he stayed in the hood. He would get none
Speaker 1: of this, you know what I'm saying. So I feel like,
Speaker 1: as much as as much progress we make, I still
Speaker 1: you keep looking back. You keep looking back. The cameras
Speaker 1: are showing everybody now and you keep seeing it. But
Speaker 1: when it wasn't showing cameras, it was happening. It was
Speaker 1: happening like it ain't never stopped happening. So I'll say
Speaker 1: all that have to say. It ain't never stopped having it.
Speaker 1: It's still going. It's funny. It's funny you say that
Speaker 1: shot because you're talking about the difference. And that's that's me,
Speaker 1: and that's me and George Floyd grew up an hour
Speaker 1: away from each other, both athletes. But I just got
Speaker 1: we're both growing up in the hood. We're both dealing
Speaker 1: with the same stuff in the hood. I just got different,
Speaker 1: different opportunities. If he would have had those opportunities, he
Speaker 1: probably would have made it too. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He didn't and and but don't understand that's how easy
Speaker 1: things can happen. You know what I'm saying. A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't see. We don't get a chance to
Speaker 1: see nothing different from where we come from. Always all
Speaker 1: we know is what we see. So when we get
Speaker 1: an opportunity and take advantage of it, everybody don't get
Speaker 1: that same opportunity. And there's so much talent in the
Speaker 1: hood or where we come from. It's just the opportunities, man,
Speaker 1: they slim. And that's why we got to, you know,
Speaker 1: continue to speak on stuff because people say, like we're
Speaker 1: out here using our voice, using our platform. How are
Speaker 1: you guys affected? You guys got money, you guys live
Speaker 1: behind gates. But just like Jack said, it could have
Speaker 1: been one bad move, one bad deal that we could
Speaker 1: have been a statistic instead of a statistic in a
Speaker 1: positive way, like were lucky. You guys wrapped your way,
Speaker 1: we hooped our way. We were the lucky ones. But
Speaker 1: we talked for all the people that don't have this
Speaker 1: platform or the opportunities that we've had. Because for us
Speaker 1: it's good. And we still see some ships, but like
Speaker 1: like Short said, his brother really has seen some ship
Speaker 1: his you know what I mean. So it's just like
Speaker 1: it's not there's still a long way to go, but
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like something is in the air right now,
Speaker 1: like like I said, for the first time in a
Speaker 1: long time, like they listening in the seeing and they're
Speaker 1: feeling it, you know what I mean. And us coming together,
Speaker 1: it's huge, it's big understanding our importance as as as
Speaker 1: as one, you know, I mean, they have always tried
Speaker 1: to call us the minority to keep us in our place,
Speaker 1: but we come together. We have the majority, and we
Speaker 1: gotta keep that power and flex that power. Maybe God
Speaker 1: has given the earth of shampoo right now. We gotta
Speaker 1: you know, because it's it's different. It's it's it's different.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I ain't gonna even lie, bro,
Speaker 1: you know, dude, hand it out there with make America
Speaker 1: grid again. He it's like he tried to make America
Speaker 1: racist again. You know. That's I mean, I do believe
Speaker 1: in I believe in the youngsters, man. I believe that
Speaker 1: every time you've got a new generation coming up, the
Speaker 1: older generations look at them like, man, y'all don't know
Speaker 1: what y'all doing. Man, y'all you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We're humans, but we you know what I'm saying, especially
Speaker 1: in our community. Man, you know, we're natural born survivans
Speaker 1: from day one. So I think that um, when um,
Speaker 1: you underestimate the youth, it just it just makes it
Speaker 1: even better for them, you know, because I remember remember
Speaker 1: when we were teenagers. We was young, and you tried.
Speaker 1: You know, you can get advice from other people, but
Speaker 1: you like, I know everything, and you're going for it. Man.
Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think that everything is gonna be
Speaker 1: in good hands. We can't really try to understand. I
Speaker 1: cannot try to understand what the youngsters approach is gonna
Speaker 1: be to changing the world to what they want. But
Speaker 1: I really feel like the world is gonna change and
Speaker 1: they feena make it their way, and you gotta like
Speaker 1: some people got to get old and go away and
Speaker 1: then it becomes the new things. So I feel confident
Speaker 1: about where things is going in in in life, in
Speaker 1: hip hopping all that. Man, I just believe people, well,
Speaker 1: you know what they're gonna make happen. I think that
Speaker 1: the ogs need to embrace the youngsters instead of talking
Speaker 1: down about them and what not, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But even in hip hop, main mainly in hip hop,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, some of them this
Speaker 1: is something you know safe for instance, they wrapped a
Speaker 1: certain way. That's that's that's what they've here. And since
Speaker 1: there was a little baby, because you know, you know
Speaker 1: two thousand three with seven uh what eighteen years ago,
Speaker 1: two thousand three, two thousand and four, like these castes
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty, like they young and that's how
Speaker 1: they grew up with a different ear than what we
Speaker 1: grew up on. So you know, you just gotta be
Speaker 1: open minded, embrace them. Because a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of youngsters they want to they want to be latest up.
Speaker 1: They want you to sit down and give him some game.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't all think they know it all.
Speaker 1: They want to get some game. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Instead of just don't, don't, don't just go just be
Speaker 1: cause you can't adapt to what they're doing. O G.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that you can't. You gotta
Speaker 1: be You gotta be versatile. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You gotta learn how to You gotta turn with the times.
Speaker 1: All the times gonna turn on you. And the way
Speaker 1: you gotta do it is turn with it, turn with
Speaker 1: the times. By standing within your jurisdiction and within your envelope,
Speaker 1: you can still be you, but you still fit right
Speaker 1: in there with the youngsters and the o gs. You
Speaker 1: did what I'm saying, find that happy medium and make
Speaker 1: America great again, really hate again. As the signs at
Speaker 1: the time is looking like we laid again, and that
Speaker 1: and and and that's and that and that's basically what
Speaker 1: it is. And and all the marches I've been to
Speaker 1: and all the giftbacks that I've been doing, I'm doing
Speaker 1: another one on m l K Day. It's all the youth.
Speaker 1: It's more youth than anybody. You know. You might you
Speaker 1: might get one or two other the people they're still
Speaker 1: fighting and standing strong. But all the marches that I've led,
Speaker 1: it's been all of youth standing man. And that's the
Speaker 1: only way they're really gonna listen to youth the future.
Speaker 1: They got to be the ones that's fighting everything we're
Speaker 1: fighting for. We may not see the benefits from it,
Speaker 1: but that's they will. Our kids will, our kids kids will.
Speaker 1: So that's why it's important for us to lay that foundation.
Speaker 1: The nineteen eighties in Oakland, the nineteen eighties and Valleo.
Speaker 1: Take me back to what the energy the vibe was like.
Speaker 1: And when did y'all first hear about each other the valley? Joe,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. So when I first so, you know,
Speaker 1: me being from Valeo, I got family and cousins and
Speaker 1: all them all through you know, through the town and
Speaker 1: what not. And so they come down, you know, and
Speaker 1: on a weekend, you know, one of the holidays on whenever, right,
Speaker 1: and they're coming down and they like, uh, vody, you
Speaker 1: ain't up on my pottinger shout right. I told this
Speaker 1: is like I was fourteen, like fourteen and a half,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was like fourteen, So
Speaker 1: what you I don't know how it was on the
Speaker 1: fourteen soon. Let me see. I graduated when I was seventeen.
Speaker 1: That was eighty five, so maybe eight two eighty three maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, they come down and I'm in the town
Speaker 1: all the time because I'm over this. Then it's all summer,
Speaker 1: I'm over my cousin in house, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: All the weekends, I'm catching the Greyhound bus out there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But Short, you know, I
Speaker 1: was listening to a lot of hip hop, just like
Speaker 1: everybody else, but Short was different. Man. He was spending
Speaker 1: that He's spending that game, man, that game that we
Speaker 1: could all relate to, you know, and you know, and
Speaker 1: he was in the thick of it. You know the
Speaker 1: town you know he's in. He was in East Oakland, man. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the game at you know,
Speaker 1: and so you know, so it's like you're listening to
Speaker 1: him and you know, and I was like, you know what, man,
Speaker 1: that's I gotta spit. I gotta spit my my real life.
Speaker 1: You know the situations that I've been around, been through,
Speaker 1: you know, seen diad done or you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Some of the folks, you know, I gotta be a storyteller.
Speaker 1: I gotta. I gotta spit my spit like that, you know.
Speaker 1: So I gotta get creative. I gotta you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's how they're all unfolded, you know. Um
Speaker 1: but Short was doing it, man, and here he is,
Speaker 1: here he is right now. Spent a whole lot of game,
Speaker 1: the fucky ass beats. That's what we do, funcky ass
Speaker 1: beats with a lot of ship talking in real like
Speaker 1: real logical ass game and the fast forward on you
Speaker 1: know the young days when we were just like rappers
Speaker 1: in the streets. Uh. There came a time where I
Speaker 1: was somewhere in Oakland learning how to be in dependent label.
Speaker 1: I was learning from a guy named Dean Hodges who
Speaker 1: had a labeled seventy five Girls Records. And Dean took
Speaker 1: me under his wing and he was going to professional
Speaker 1: studios and making records and putting the ship out and
Speaker 1: taking it to the distributor and picking up the check.
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, he was. I was
Speaker 1: just sitting there riding shotgun while he was doing the hustle.
Speaker 1: So you know, I was like everywhere we went, I
Speaker 1: knew the names, knew the place, knew the location, I
Speaker 1: knew the whole routine. Earl was in Valajo getting the
Speaker 1: same game from his uncle St. Charles, who knew how
Speaker 1: to sell records independently also and told him how to
Speaker 1: do it. So on two different you know, were thirty
Speaker 1: miles apart, but we learned the same hustle. And then
Speaker 1: what makes it crazier is somewhere in the later eighties
Speaker 1: where it was like eighties, seven eighty eight, When when
Speaker 1: when when y'all started clicking up with the with the
Speaker 1: cruise in the street money and all. That was at
Speaker 1: the late eighties. So him and his folks, when when
Speaker 1: my folks, you know, your folks like eighty seven, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we're doing our rap hustle,
Speaker 1: our families just getting street money, and we all like
Speaker 1: see each other, hang out and ship. We ain't even
Speaker 1: talking about your song. That's your song that we're just
Speaker 1: hanging out. That's e forty. He wrapped that's too short.
Speaker 1: He wrapped us open. Nigger Nick. We just in in
Speaker 1: a group working with each other way back when a
Speaker 1: lot like pushing around and we pull up, they pull
Speaker 1: up open. We we we were typed. And then I
Speaker 1: mean years went by, man, we his homies, years went
Speaker 1: by before we ever made a song, like for real,
Speaker 1: I know that's a trip. But when we put that
Speaker 1: ship together, when we did that Rappers ball, it was
Speaker 1: all gas. It was all gas, no breakpads. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: wasn't stopping. We never stopped after that. It was like
Speaker 1: we probably got man, we can't. We can't even count
Speaker 1: how many songs we did together. We probably got I
Speaker 1: know it's better than fifty. I don't know how many
Speaker 1: it is. See, we did a double album together with
Speaker 1: like fucking seventeen songs a piece on I mean seventeen
Speaker 1: songs on each album that I think that's twenty eight songs. Songs,
Speaker 1: songs and what was that called history mob music and
Speaker 1: function music slapping, here's the here's your channel. But if
Speaker 1: you if you add to them, how many most songs
Speaker 1: we did Brest, it's probably like sixty seventy on know,
Speaker 1: it's still counting song. Hey, that's like we ran a
Speaker 1: whole NBA season together seventy eight two songs. Hey, look
Speaker 1: look at all these songs we're doing. Look at all
Speaker 1: these songs we're doing right now, You're still doing it still,
Speaker 1: Come on, hey man, compare to uh, the Warrior teams
Speaker 1: now compared to their Warrior team. Oh man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you right now, when they was playing the street ball,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the players off the court, off the
Speaker 1: off the court, off the court, off the court. You know,
Speaker 1: you know these two gentlemen were on the phone with
Speaker 1: right now. You know they are little hordheaded. They're hardheaded,
Speaker 1: super hardheaded, very hard hitted, and they all the way
Speaker 1: with they live to fighting ship. They hard I mean,
Speaker 1: shorty short we had the best time in the in
Speaker 1: in the town man. When we was playing I'm talking
Speaker 1: about it was like we won a championship already, Like
Speaker 1: the city embraced us like like no other bro Like
Speaker 1: I don't care how many championships they wanted to in
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Nobody rocked out like we
Speaker 1: rocked out when we was playing there and go to state.
Speaker 1: Nobody I remember seeing that. I remember seeing Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: He used to be like kind of he kind of quiet,
Speaker 1: a little off to the side, looking like a little
Speaker 1: looking like a little boy and hanging out with yall.
Speaker 1: We were sneaky though. He gamed up. He wanted He's
Speaker 1: a student of the game. He know how to fit
Speaker 1: in wherever he goes to if he needed to. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: like eleventh grader man, that's real. Hey. But I got
Speaker 1: a chance to really see it though, because the other
Speaker 1: player during the We Believe times and then go back
Speaker 1: in seventeen when they won the Ring and there was
Speaker 1: still so much the players wanted to know what our
Speaker 1: team was like. The media still talked about our team,
Speaker 1: the fans still talked about the team like that team
Speaker 1: was just different. Like we you could reach out and
Speaker 1: touch us. We would be in in in the hood
Speaker 1: in Oakland, we would be in in Fillmore across the bridge,
Speaker 1: like we would really be in the spots on the corner.
Speaker 1: That was our name, Matting, that was our name. That
Speaker 1: was our name. You know that they had what they
Speaker 1: called step of them. The the film we was the
Speaker 1: film O five. Yeah, Yeah, it was the film O five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was I think there was the Hamptons five. We
Speaker 1: was the film O five. It was just a lot
Speaker 1: of love from just what we did in that small
Speaker 1: amount of time. You know, if you think about it,
Speaker 1: we did that in three months. When y'all knocked off Dallas, y'all,
Speaker 1: that was that was the championship for us. That was
Speaker 1: the chip. Everybody was like, man, hey, boys, really out
Speaker 1: there bowling? You know it was I took it like
Speaker 1: y'all freestyle and like y'all wasn't It was no particular playing.
Speaker 1: It was no matter. There wasn't nothing playing out. This
Speaker 1: was like just getting ball, you know, no matter what,
Speaker 1: no matter what year, whatever happened after that, no matter
Speaker 1: what chip, how many chips, how many trips to the chip,
Speaker 1: they can still more than we believe shirts still whatever.
Speaker 1: We uh, we're in the process of getting getting the
Speaker 1: we believe dot going. So we definitely gonna need you
Speaker 1: all to sun with that shot soundtrack soundtrack, y'all sound
Speaker 1: on the child check. We gotta have Mr Fab. You
Speaker 1: gotta have Mr Fab on the sidetrack. Can't do can't
Speaker 1: do no we believe documentary have a sound check without
Speaker 1: Mr Fab Show three, that ship would be killer Killer
Speaker 1: bringing man man Man I got picked with him, but
Speaker 1: he he he don't say he's been at the Warriors
Speaker 1: game for many years. I'll just give him a hard time,
Speaker 1: you know, That's just what I gotta do. And they'd
Speaker 1: be araguing over who, like, Okay, they got the name, uh,
Speaker 1: Forty say I'm front row forty fab say that that
Speaker 1: long before, and forty came with that that he was
Speaker 1: already calling himself front row Fabby and then forty like
Speaker 1: Nabro made So they got a real thing going on.
Speaker 1: Who was front first? Like it ain't even like they like,
Speaker 1: it's like serious, Yeah, yeah, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta say some love took him bad mombs man,
Speaker 1: his mom's man. She stated every she was at every game.
Speaker 1: I said, I've seen her before every game. She waited
Speaker 1: to after every game to speak to me. Man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I got resting pa, a lot
Speaker 1: of love to fat to Mr Fab's mom. And I
Speaker 1: missed him, manly man at that new stadium And ain't
Speaker 1: it ain't the roorical man, And ain't say I went
Speaker 1: in there and it ain't it's missing that person that
Speaker 1: that that that that Oracle arena was intimidating. Man. It was.
Speaker 1: It was always fun. It was fun. It's business. It's business.
Speaker 1: But when when they got on that chip down, when
Speaker 1: the chip, when the chips came in, that crowd turned
Speaker 1: into it was it was like a problem, man for
Speaker 1: the business. It was a problem. They lost it. So
Speaker 1: we had like the real die harder because at to
Speaker 1: keep it real that that the tickets were cheaper, like
Speaker 1: you can get into the game and bring your family
Speaker 1: back when we were running in oh six or seven
Speaker 1: and oh eight. You know, now it turned into a
Speaker 1: business where they had the highest courtside price in the
Speaker 1: league at one point, and then they go over to
Speaker 1: San Francisco and that's straight corporate. That's all that ship
Speaker 1: was for, you know what I mean. So the fans
Speaker 1: over here kind of got left out, which was sucked
Speaker 1: up because the Bay Area fans are so loyal whether
Speaker 1: the team is good bad in between, they're gonna ride
Speaker 1: for you regardless to the end. And and the fact
Speaker 1: that we were able to bring playoff basketball back um
Speaker 1: to to to your fan base was just crazy. You know,
Speaker 1: to this day we have so I mean I just
Speaker 1: got rid of my house up there in March, but
Speaker 1: I would be in the grocery store and that's all
Speaker 1: they wouldn't talk about the current team. It was we
Speaker 1: just loved your team, and this, this and that, and
Speaker 1: it was. It's really crazy to see what kind of
Speaker 1: imprint we made on the on the town. Yeah man,
Speaker 1: legendary friend Forshall. Yeah. So for the people outside of
Speaker 1: the Bay, they kind of feel like or I mean,
Speaker 1: they're right, but music the Bay got put on the
Speaker 1: map when y'all really hit. Were there anyone that you
Speaker 1: guys that you guys looked up to growing up in
Speaker 1: the game or was it just the hustle and rapping
Speaker 1: just came. Oh no, there's plenty of people we looked
Speaker 1: up to. I know, you know me growing up, I
Speaker 1: looked up to Russell Simmons. I looked up to, Um,
Speaker 1: you understand me, Rick Rubin, Um, you know Jay Prance,
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying. Loose Skywalker. You know these
Speaker 1: were these were CEOs way before before me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, but mine was like really really homegrown.
Speaker 1: And I mean by that he is like I didn't
Speaker 1: have distribution like like that. I had a small one. Stop.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. But anyway to make a
Speaker 1: long story, sure, what I'm saying is these dudes really
Speaker 1: planted their feet in hip hop man and showed up
Speaker 1: and showed out and was big. Like I'm really influenced
Speaker 1: by them. You know what I'm saying. There's others tools
Speaker 1: such as, you know, we gotta first of all, we
Speaker 1: gotta give it up the Cool Hurt because you know
Speaker 1: he's credited for being the one to create rap. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We gotta we gotta love people
Speaker 1: like cool heard, we gotta we gotta love people like
Speaker 1: you unerstand me Master flashing the Furious five million miles
Speaker 1: and Millie Mills spending the game. Man, I love the
Speaker 1: way he spent that game. You know he's speaking real
Speaker 1: life way back the end. And when you can relate
Speaker 1: to it, you know what I'm saying, they don't need
Speaker 1: to hate to it. A lot of people when they
Speaker 1: can't relate to something, they just actually just hate it.
Speaker 1: Like just because you can't relate, man, that don't mean
Speaker 1: it's fake. You know what I'm saying. That's you. You
Speaker 1: you in the way yourself. You ain't gamed up, you game, goofy. Hello,
Speaker 1: you know we got we got that game. School marching
Speaker 1: band background during goofy game. Sittime, I said, we got
Speaker 1: that high school marching band background. Man, that that that
Speaker 1: rhythm that you know at a at an age when
Speaker 1: hip hop first came into to our lives. That that
Speaker 1: love for the music and being in band class kind
Speaker 1: of trans send it over the hip hop and just
Speaker 1: those rhythms and the beats and it and it kind
Speaker 1: of like, you know, Forty said he was a drummer
Speaker 1: in the marching band. But if you listen to Forty rap,
Speaker 1: the nigga kind of rapped like a snare drum, you know,
Speaker 1: like to really be like like like spitting fire. So
Speaker 1: it's all related. And I think, um, I think um
Speaker 1: the early days of hip hop, like it was just
Speaker 1: fun and ship. But then when Russell Simmons uh start pushing,
Speaker 1: because you know, Russell was there, he was there for
Speaker 1: all that young ship man m Curtis Blow and all
Speaker 1: that ship he was around. But when he really started
Speaker 1: pushing that run DMC agenda. And then his public enemy
Speaker 1: is Eric being rock him. You know, the deaf jam
Speaker 1: ships started creating superstars, the ll L k J and
Speaker 1: you know, and nigga on the West Coast is looking
Speaker 1: like naked we want to do this ship too, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we don't got nobody in
Speaker 1: hip hop that's in the Bay or on the West coast.
Speaker 1: You know. Dr Dre and then was down there doing
Speaker 1: world class wrecking crew Iced Tea popped up on the
Speaker 1: scene early. It was, um, you know the l A
Speaker 1: dream team. It was my is doing the ship. But
Speaker 1: to see that, to see it all turn into big
Speaker 1: business of business, but it motivated us because we're sitting
Speaker 1: here rubbing shoulders with rich as drug dealers and they
Speaker 1: gets right around and busses and all kind of sucking ship.
Speaker 1: We're like, man, I want to have I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get in the game. So we we literally I'll tell
Speaker 1: you on my in man, I literally was looking at
Speaker 1: the music like Nigga, these tapes and these boxes is
Speaker 1: like kilos, nig I'm flipping this ship. I'm gonna stack
Speaker 1: the ship, stack the profit re up. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's I was. I was, That's what I
Speaker 1: was on the thing. What I know, this is what
Speaker 1: I know. You know I try to tell I'm saying,
Speaker 1: get that legal money, that legal money, not the illegal
Speaker 1: the legal money. That's right, that that legal money because
Speaker 1: I tell them, you know, um, even even in the streets,
Speaker 1: if you if you're getting that illegal money, don't try
Speaker 1: to turn that ship into a permanent occupation. That's stupid.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. The ship really is
Speaker 1: designed because you know what I'm saying, Like you know,
Speaker 1: even your corporate world, you don't know what the funk
Speaker 1: they did to get where they at. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But they was in and out like the burger,
Speaker 1: You feel me. You know they they used whatever they
Speaker 1: was doing and whether it was hard, whether it was
Speaker 1: illegal or or legal, whatever they was doing, they used
Speaker 1: that as a stepping stone to be one hundred percent legal,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you can't make that
Speaker 1: a permanent occupation like motherfucker's want to make that a
Speaker 1: permanent occupation. And you know that three years of grinding
Speaker 1: and getting them getting your money on it in five
Speaker 1: years of grinding ain't worth thirty years in the pen.
Speaker 1: It just don't add up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So talked to Yeah it's a setup. So we was
Speaker 1: always talked to. You still me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You had a frame of mind be a businessman, bro
Speaker 1: be a business because let me tell you something. First
Speaker 1: of all, this rap game, first of all, you get,
Speaker 1: it's way more money in it. You understand me. It's
Speaker 1: more rap. It's it's way more money in the rap
Speaker 1: game than it is in the dope game, okay, by question,
Speaker 1: by far, And it's way more and it's way more
Speaker 1: fame than it is in the dope game. Right. That's
Speaker 1: if you seek seeking for fame. It's nice to have
Speaker 1: a little bit, but that ain't my My My goal
Speaker 1: was the money. I want to bread. You feel me?
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, And it's way and
Speaker 1: and you're living a you're living illegal you're living illegal
Speaker 1: not illegal illegal life. You understand what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know you ain't gotta you know, you ain't gotta you know,
Speaker 1: have you know, look around like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Watch you do, but you but you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: with it because rappers, some of these rappers they talk
Speaker 1: themselves into all kind of beef and ship like that's unnecessary. Man,
Speaker 1: Get your money, you feel what I'm saying. Get your money. Man,
Speaker 1: These mother fucking headphones tripping. But anyway, get your gooda.
Speaker 1: That's where it's that. You know, turn turn, take that
Speaker 1: little goody you having, whatever good are you having? First
Speaker 1: of all, the main thing is get you a piece
Speaker 1: of the earth. Get you out and get some property.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't give a just
Speaker 1: a piece of land, a small piece of land somewhere
Speaker 1: in the midwest to south. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It could be a little lot, anything, Just get just
Speaker 1: start off with that first. You understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and you know, take it from there. Man, so much,
Speaker 1: so many, so many things. You know, it's always great
Speaker 1: to make money doing something that you love. You know
Speaker 1: when you when you're making money doing something that you love,
Speaker 1: and you can't be lazy. You can't be a couspertator hustler. Man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You gotta you gotta go
Speaker 1: to be it late and wake up early. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's me. I'll wake I go to
Speaker 1: be it late and wake up early. Sometimes I sleep
Speaker 1: with both eyes open. You get in when you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, you get out what you put you you
Speaker 1: get out what you put into it. So it's anything,
Speaker 1: where did it go from or did it was it?
Speaker 1: Was it always? When did it go from just I'm
Speaker 1: a Rapperts have really understanding that you're an actual business?
Speaker 1: Was it from the jump or did it take a
Speaker 1: few years. I'll tell you, I guess till I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let you talk. I just feel like, really, just it's
Speaker 1: just it's a forced play, man, It's it's a forced play.
Speaker 1: You're a youngster and you're doing something you love, hip hop,
Speaker 1: You're making money, and then all of a sudden things
Speaker 1: really happened and you look, you're looking at the bank account,
Speaker 1: you're looking at the pockets, and you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of money, and you've got a lot of people depending
Speaker 1: on you, and you got folks working for you. You're
Speaker 1: sitting and sign a contract. It shicking serious, and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you you you either step
Speaker 1: up to the play or you don't. And it's like
Speaker 1: I really, I really feel like um people who succeed
Speaker 1: you're not necessarily succeeding because of just your talented or
Speaker 1: just because you have the opportunity you got it. It's
Speaker 1: so many elements to being the one that gets through,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's it's it's um It's
Speaker 1: just something. You know, you look back at a lot
Speaker 1: of it, A lot of it is luck to be
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you put that hard working, but it's
Speaker 1: love to be able to maneuver through it, because most
Speaker 1: mothercker's can't. But what I do, Man, you just gotta
Speaker 1: keep going for it. Br You gotta have luck. You
Speaker 1: gotta have luck, and you gotta have longevity. You gotta
Speaker 1: to short always say. He always said this, man, don't
Speaker 1: stop wacking like and I always say, if you keep
Speaker 1: throwing ship at the wall, eventually it's gonna stick. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So take for instance this, you know,
Speaker 1: during the time when Pop passed away, r P tupop
Speaker 1: he passed away, it seemed like the carpet was taking
Speaker 1: under the West coast leg just like tooking it from
Speaker 1: under our feet, and everything sits shifted to the South,
Speaker 1: even though we've been rocking with the South, and the
Speaker 1: South been do what they think, But I'm talking about
Speaker 1: they totally did they think, you know, So we had
Speaker 1: to hold on like a hub cap and the fast
Speaker 1: ain't to us back our turn. That's what we did.
Speaker 1: You know, you pay attention to the ball. You gotta
Speaker 1: watch the ball. You don't know if the game is
Speaker 1: gonna throw you a curve, a knuckleball, a fast ball,
Speaker 1: whatever the case they're gonna throw. You just gotta be
Speaker 1: ready to that thing. And when you swing, swing for
Speaker 1: the fence. Basics is cool, But you want to hit
Speaker 1: that home run. Man, you want that platinum. You want
Speaker 1: that platinum, that platinum like getting the motherfucker championship, you know,
Speaker 1: ring or whatever. You know what I'm saying. So you know,
Speaker 1: like I say, man, I'm telling you right now, coming
Speaker 1: from the shoots, coming from the shoebox to to to
Speaker 1: a safe deposit box is a really interesting situation. You know,
Speaker 1: my uncle, say Charles, taught me how to actually go
Speaker 1: get a bank account. St Charles is credited, credited for
Speaker 1: being you may have heard Master P and many others
Speaker 1: talked highly about him because that's my uncle, that's my
Speaker 1: mama's brother. You know what I'm saying. He's legendary. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 1: your favorite rappers if it wasn't for him, because you
Speaker 1: know he is he he he laced me, He laced me,
Speaker 1: and the click for these he legit d shot sugar
Speaker 1: T sick with the records. You understand me. A wall
Speaker 1: rackets y'all to the click. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He laced us. Then Master p came along. He laid
Speaker 1: Master Pete, you understand me. So just imagine so many
Speaker 1: people that JT the bigger figure, and so many others
Speaker 1: that came through because develod Records was doing their thing
Speaker 1: no matter what. Everybody was doing their thing bro out
Speaker 1: here in the bay, and my uncle had a lot
Speaker 1: to do with it along with us, because we all
Speaker 1: learned together. But I'm just saying, you know, he taught
Speaker 1: me how to be a man as well, not just
Speaker 1: like I said, he taught me how to go get
Speaker 1: a bank account. Boy when I was you know, when
Speaker 1: I was a youngster, always looked up to him. We
Speaker 1: single handedly invented the independent music hip, the independent hip
Speaker 1: hop seen in the bay. It either comes from Efty
Speaker 1: and his his chain of you know, you know, to
Speaker 1: trinkle down, or come from too short and well trinkled
Speaker 1: out from me. Like we gave everybody the game. You
Speaker 1: cannot trace it back. It's impossible to trace it back
Speaker 1: any further than us. Because he just told you where
Speaker 1: he got it from. I'll tell you who I got
Speaker 1: it from. It didn't come from anywhere else in hip hop.
Speaker 1: We invented the ship and they talked about the Bay
Speaker 1: Independent the Bay. You know everybody they do them that
Speaker 1: ship come from us, ain't know. And the best part
Speaker 1: about what I like bragging about me and forty is
Speaker 1: that we ain't just some old last niggas that did
Speaker 1: this ship. And we're on the sidelines, tell the story,
Speaker 1: sitting on the porch. N we're in the game, talking
Speaker 1: about stop being in this motherfucking game. Nig that's how weird,
Speaker 1: that's how we're doing it. Let let me mask. Let's
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Who uh then this is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite rappers from the Bay who umbrella mcmahl
Speaker 1: fall under even all under um Young Black Brother records
Speaker 1: kinda read uh you know them boys right there and
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, one of the people he really
Speaker 1: look up to is mc dre and a lot of
Speaker 1: people do too as well. Mac dre did this thing
Speaker 1: or that. He's definitely legendary. Gone too soon. Mcmah is
Speaker 1: my cousin here, mcmahll mcmas my couse. He from the
Speaker 1: Crest Side. I'm from the hill side, you know. But
Speaker 1: we've worked together and still we want of my man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we like you know, mcmahl really put it. Damn. People
Speaker 1: don't know how really how big mcmahl really you understand
Speaker 1: me put it. He did his staying in hip hop
Speaker 1: like way beyond the Bay Area, maybe further. To be
Speaker 1: honest with you. People don't want to hear this. And
Speaker 1: I always tell him he could. He he'd be like, nah, cousin,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, dude, you was. You was well known
Speaker 1: way further than what people think. Bro, like across the
Speaker 1: across the you know, like y'all know about him. You
Speaker 1: know what that they know about mcmahl and the Midwest,
Speaker 1: the South all that for many moons, you know, So
Speaker 1: shout to mcmahl. Man. You know what I'm saying. Your
Speaker 1: brothers gotta get it together, young brothers, gotta get it
Speaker 1: toge and to get right song and you need to
Speaker 1: get right come on, man, it's it's it's real. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just being honest. It's real talk. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What it was you got me wide open,
Speaker 1: you know, man, he did, mand went crazy like he did.
Speaker 1: You know, what's what's been the secret to the longevity.
Speaker 1: You know, we asked what we had an opportunity interview
Speaker 1: snooped last season y'all too. Y'all been in the game
Speaker 1: for over thirty five years, and like you said, just
Speaker 1: you just said, you're not on the sidelines right now.
Speaker 1: You're still in it. How what how the funk y'all
Speaker 1: been doing that? Man, you gotta be uh A politician.
Speaker 1: You gotta be a ceo. You gotta be a h
Speaker 1: a therapist. You gotta know how to like really like,
Speaker 1: you know, take the pictures, kiss the babies, handle to
Speaker 1: handle the dispute. You gotta make sure different people eat
Speaker 1: that need to be eating at times. You gotta like
Speaker 1: it's a lot of stuff. You gotta keep the family together.
Speaker 1: You gotta do a lot of things. You gotta know
Speaker 1: how to get this producer with that person that do
Speaker 1: hooks with, that dude that gott a verse. You gotta
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta all the time to be running.
Speaker 1: You know, the coach, the quarterback, planes, you calling plays
Speaker 1: and basically it's just a constant, constant, constant machine of grinding, grinding, grinding, grinding,
Speaker 1: and staying relevant with who's hot and we like really
Speaker 1: like never tapped out of our area. I hadn't moved
Speaker 1: all over the country, but I ain't never left that
Speaker 1: that Oakland, that Bay area. I ain't never letting that
Speaker 1: go on. The just the foundation of my music. So
Speaker 1: we keep it real Bay, we keep it baying. And
Speaker 1: I think just that longevity is just having a good
Speaker 1: ear to music and then being able to do all
Speaker 1: those things that other people can't do. Man, other people
Speaker 1: can't get on the phone and squash them ship niggas
Speaker 1: can't get on the phone and make two phone calls
Speaker 1: and make YouTube niggas the money. I don't even get
Speaker 1: none of the money. I just make a phone call.
Speaker 1: So y'all just get some money real quick. That's the
Speaker 1: kind of ship we do. And that's kind of ship
Speaker 1: when you put it out there, but that ship come
Speaker 1: back and we I know, forty like that. I'm like
Speaker 1: that fabrics like that. A lot of niggas is like that.
Speaker 1: You put it out there and you just don't understand
Speaker 1: that giving, giving, giving is really receiving come back. I
Speaker 1: got the line. I got a line. I always say short,
Speaker 1: the benefits are being real, so beneficial, I like, straight up,
Speaker 1: straight up, don't don't. The reason I'm on this show
Speaker 1: and only reason I've been blessed to have us because
Speaker 1: I got a solid brother that I always stayed down with,
Speaker 1: Matt and Matt Matt had to connect and made it happen. Man,
Speaker 1: So the benefits have been real. I'm I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a testament of that. Man. It's it's beneficial. Bro,
Speaker 1: I wanna h forty. I know you had a really
Speaker 1: good relationship with him. He's one of my favorite people
Speaker 1: all time. Talk to us about your time with Park
Speaker 1: and what he meant to you. Man, Pop Man, good times.
Speaker 1: You know, every time we hook up, it's like like
Speaker 1: little kids, like you know you grew up, you know
Speaker 1: how you you see a friend, one of your best
Speaker 1: friends you ain't seen the hell of years. It's just
Speaker 1: like that. And we can see each other a week later.
Speaker 1: We just like you know, big hugs, big you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just like this is my guy, Like
Speaker 1: we always gonna have a great time together. Like that's
Speaker 1: just time. We just it was the game designed us,
Speaker 1: like God put good people together, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so that's how that's how it was with Pop.
Speaker 1: We would always you could we we uphold our baitness
Speaker 1: like two bait niggers get together, you know, you know
Speaker 1: you could always tell a bait movements like yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know the way we talk in the whole, like
Speaker 1: it's different, we different, I promise you. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that. So that's how Pop was. You know.
Speaker 1: Pop was definitely you know they can say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: pockets from the East coast, this man, that man, his
Speaker 1: heart was the Bay Area. I don't hear with nobody
Speaker 1: said Maria, right, it was Marian. It was Marian. But
Speaker 1: his all his homies was rich A lot of his
Speaker 1: homies was Richmond. The rowdy are they don't play that,
Speaker 1: they don't play it. They don't play in Richmond. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. All his homies was from there.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of them. You know. So it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, basically man, Pop. You know, it was always
Speaker 1: good energy, um, a lot of work ethic. He would
Speaker 1: always go in there here and knock out hell of songs.
Speaker 1: That's why I love him, just just going there and
Speaker 1: knock out hell of versus. But Pop was a whole
Speaker 1: another animal boy. When he got into the studio, he
Speaker 1: finishing the song. He's doing three verses and it's gonna
Speaker 1: all makes sense. It's gonna all be great content. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be great subject matters and the spit gonna be
Speaker 1: gained up. You know what I'm saying. It's gonna be real.
Speaker 1: It's gonna touch, it's gonna touch your heart. He's gonna
Speaker 1: go in there and make three songs, you know, within
Speaker 1: within an hour. Heally, he danged, they'll leave out of
Speaker 1: They're making nine songs a day and fully complete, like
Speaker 1: no going back to touch nothing up for nothing. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You gotta remember it wasn't pro
Speaker 1: tools like that back then. It had just again, right
Speaker 1: right after you know what I'm saying, Right after we
Speaker 1: made dustin It go ahead, Hawk was writing wraps the
Speaker 1: pen and paper as fast as you could write, just right,
Speaker 1: as fast as you could write. He's just doing that
Speaker 1: and he's right, and he like then when he goes
Speaker 1: there and wrap, You're like, you didn't just write that
Speaker 1: ship that fast and that I don't know how he
Speaker 1: was doing it, like in front of my face several times,
Speaker 1: and I was amazed, and I'm like, he like when
Speaker 1: we did when we did um we Ain't hard to find.
Speaker 1: That's on all eyes on Me Double Diamond. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a diamond album, you know what I'm saying. With Diamond,
Speaker 1: you know. And when we did that, we was at
Speaker 1: Cannam Studio. So he had Rick Rock in there with
Speaker 1: c bow Um doing trading war stories. Yeah, he had
Speaker 1: be Mike Moseley, He had me Mike Moseley, d shot
Speaker 1: be Legit and Richie rich and they're knocking out We
Speaker 1: Ain't hard to find. You know what I'm saying. That was.
Speaker 1: That's a classic. Oh that's a class. So he coming,
Speaker 1: he coming, he coming in there, checking on everybody going.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, Candam had fol studios up in
Speaker 1: that hole. You know what I'm saying. There was nothing
Speaker 1: but studios in there, and that's what most of you're losing,
Speaker 1: every inch of it properly coming there. He go to
Speaker 1: one studio to another one and like what y'all looking like?
Speaker 1: What y'all look at like? What you'all looking like? He
Speaker 1: already late not to mention how wild that environment was
Speaker 1: in the studio. What that was. That was if you
Speaker 1: go in that buility and once you walked past the
Speaker 1: reception area, you liked all his bag niggers with him.
Speaker 1: Oh man, he was in heaven. He had all his
Speaker 1: big niggas with him. He had all this It might
Speaker 1: be it might be thirty bloods over there, then the
Speaker 1: whole Snoop Dogg and my fifty crips go that way,
Speaker 1: and then this big gass niggas walked around looking like
Speaker 1: they just got out the pin yesterday. Yeah, that's real.
Speaker 1: But this but this day on short, this day right here,
Speaker 1: it was all Bay Area, you understand me, It was
Speaker 1: all bad. He was up in that motherfucker like really
Speaker 1: really family reunion ship, like putting together something that we
Speaker 1: never knew would be so monumental, a double album All
Speaker 1: Livees on Me. We was on there. You know, you
Speaker 1: had fort on the album like you had I think
Speaker 1: Drew Dons on that thing like a whole. But he
Speaker 1: put the whole bay on man. Man literally put on
Speaker 1: for his city where he put on for the soil,
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying. And it was it was amazing,
Speaker 1: man um. You know, I was just glad to be
Speaker 1: part of that, you know. And in the meantime and
Speaker 1: in between times, you know, he he was on my record,
Speaker 1: you know, he should. We had just did a million
Speaker 1: dollars spot Dustin and disgusted, like, you understand me. These songs,
Speaker 1: these songs are legendary songs, and I just wish if
Speaker 1: he was with here like he had. I was telling
Speaker 1: I was telling out Westmore the other day. I said,
Speaker 1: you know, Pod had hit me one day and he
Speaker 1: was like, yo, forty he say. He say, I say,
Speaker 1: what's up, folks? He said, Now I'm meant to tell
Speaker 1: you manks. So look I'm doing this thing. We're gonna
Speaker 1: call like I'm doing. You know, they got playing in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I say, I say, Jim, he said, well, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to put together this ship. You might want to invest
Speaker 1: in this. I want to call it a Gainst the
Speaker 1: cafe Gangster cafe. But we had all the gangster niggers
Speaker 1: on them, on the on the on the on the
Speaker 1: on the on the walls and whatnot like and what
Speaker 1: you meant by that was like old school mob like
Speaker 1: you know, like Al capom On and Lucky Luciano and
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the Big Tuna and all
Speaker 1: of them. You feel what I'm saying. So I was like, hey, well,
Speaker 1: let me know what's happening because you know, I was
Speaker 1: playing with a few dollars. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was a youngster. You know what I'm saying this,
Speaker 1: This the nineties. You know what I'm saying this, You know,
Speaker 1: I mean my twenties. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm with it.
Speaker 1: You feel me so, but it didn't fold. He also
Speaker 1: told me he was putting together album um with a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of old schoolers. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was part of when I was one of them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He had nice and smooth
Speaker 1: both of them boys Rapp Their voices some of the
Speaker 1: most unique voices of all time. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you feel with him? Yeah, you know I know that, man,
Speaker 1: You know, I know that may come on. Man. You know,
Speaker 1: he had a whole bunch of old gs that he
Speaker 1: wanted on the album. And and then you know, you know,
Speaker 1: later on, dude, my folks was gone. Man. I had
Speaker 1: seen him at the Rappers Ball video Me and Short
Speaker 1: he was there kicking it with us and ship like that.
Speaker 1: And you know, a few months, a couple of months later,
Speaker 1: he was gone. He was gone. Man, and uh they
Speaker 1: got shot in Las Vegas. And you know, mind you
Speaker 1: when were I'm normally I'm not really like you know,
Speaker 1: own like walking into the ring like him or Sugar
Speaker 1: memberies doing. But I'll be out there. I'll be out
Speaker 1: there in Vegas and when we connect, we connect like
Speaker 1: I'm always. I was always in Vegas. I went to
Speaker 1: all the fights. You know what I'm saying. I was
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'll fun with it. You
Speaker 1: know what. I was up a young tycoon, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was with a hall of fights,
Speaker 1: the Wold who wash and I just didn't. I was
Speaker 1: at home on this day and they told me he
Speaker 1: had h he had got shots. So I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna live me. You're a tough dude, man,
Speaker 1: Because that's like I was there. And then I went
Speaker 1: to the motherfucker fight. I went to that fight that
Speaker 1: was with the people from fucking London. I think there
Speaker 1: was Sheldon whoever, the Typson Fund. Not that they gotten
Speaker 1: like it. Not a minute of some ship. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: seen I've seen fucking Pop that night. I've seen him
Speaker 1: after the fucking fight. After all this ship happened and
Speaker 1: seen him. You're supposed to go to six six too
Speaker 1: and just turn up and ship. You know those Sugar's
Speaker 1: club nigga has never made it to the club. Bullshit happened, Man, Man, Man,
Speaker 1: Man Short. You're one of the very few who got
Speaker 1: the opportunity to do a song with Pop, Big and J.
Speaker 1: What do you attribute your versatility to and what were
Speaker 1: those experiences like? Well, you know, man, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm the big homie, and a lot of scenarios in
Speaker 1: these when you think all that so and so on
Speaker 1: that song. So but I'm the big homie and the
Speaker 1: ship kind of mean some when uh, motherfucker's is looking
Speaker 1: at the track record and they're going, Dennis Nigga's short guy,
Speaker 1: like so many motherfucking platinum and gold albums, and I
Speaker 1: did it like before that. They came along so Big
Speaker 1: getting in the game, Jay getting in the game. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm platting and platting and platting and platting and platinum
Speaker 1: they like looking like, you know, niggas is coming up,
Speaker 1: but they're like, and I want to get this too,
Speaker 1: Short Nigga on some ship and yeah, you know, nim
Speaker 1: niggas was getting at me like they're like, bro, you're
Speaker 1: spitting that game. We funk with you. And it was
Speaker 1: it was really on that vibe that I had moved
Speaker 1: to Atlanta and I was going to New York a lot,
Speaker 1: and then the nigga like like tied in and like
Speaker 1: puffing Big and and Jay and and Dame and just
Speaker 1: you know, just nigga was just tied into a bunch
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's that was, you know, hot on the East Coast.
Speaker 1: Fat Joe's working a lot of niggas out there, so
Speaker 1: Eric Sherman and Red Man and Keith Murray, I was.
Speaker 1: I was literally tretched out there running with the niggas
Speaker 1: and making songs and ships. So it just it just
Speaker 1: was you know, living like the way you want to
Speaker 1: live in man. You get you played for a certain city, man,
Speaker 1: you might you might not vibe out in that town.
Speaker 1: Within another city, you might become family like in the Bay,
Speaker 1: you know. So I went to Atlanta and had a
Speaker 1: whole old world out there. I got the whole thing
Speaker 1: going on in New Orleans from from the time I
Speaker 1: was a little boy in my family and stuff, and
Speaker 1: you know, got a Vegas lifestyle. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so I'm the guy who took who took that that
Speaker 1: township and took it to the world. You know, both
Speaker 1: of your both of your songs. The song you got
Speaker 1: with Big and a song you got with Whole Man,
Speaker 1: that's classics. I'm talking about some of the biggest songs.
Speaker 1: Some of the biggest songs that come out come come
Speaker 1: from both of them. Man, you want both of them.
Speaker 1: And you know it was it was in the moment.
Speaker 1: You don't really think about timeless, You don't really think
Speaker 1: about the magnitude of it. You just I mean literally, man,
Speaker 1: you in there when you're doing collapse, even with a
Speaker 1: nigga like Folty Scarface. Uh, I mean, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of niggas I got down with, like you in there,
Speaker 1: you in the studio and these niggas, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: nigga might nicka might lay his first first and then
Speaker 1: you stuck in the studio Like Big did that to me. Man,
Speaker 1: he laid his verse first. And now you're sitting in
Speaker 1: the room, in his room full of people, they drink
Speaker 1: then laughing, smoking air and there looking like what you're
Speaker 1: about to do? Ship the moment, I had a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of bitches in my lifetime, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's the moment though, Man like forty put pressure on
Speaker 1: you in the studio. Guys like that, they do that
Speaker 1: to you. Man, what's it like now? Because it used
Speaker 1: to be y'all would all be in one area, like
Speaker 1: you said, kicking, enjoy it and make great music. Now
Speaker 1: people are just sitting I mean, outside the pandemic. But
Speaker 1: it kind of seems like that's less and less. It
Speaker 1: still happens, but not as much now. They just sending
Speaker 1: music and you hop on each other. Explain that energy
Speaker 1: because we kind of feel the same way with our show.
Speaker 1: Although we love having y'all here, before the show started,
Speaker 1: we already said this ship would be a whole another
Speaker 1: level we was in person because you get that energy.
Speaker 1: What's that studio energy like compared to just having to hey,
Speaker 1: jump on this they sent it. It's much much better
Speaker 1: when you're together, you know, of course you know that.
Speaker 1: And but nowadays with the technology like we are doing
Speaker 1: zoom and all this stuff like that now that I mean,
Speaker 1: it was it was a time when it wasn't none
Speaker 1: of that. It was a time we wasn't able to
Speaker 1: look at each other, you know, like you know, we
Speaker 1: never thought what was at the Jesson's. We never thought
Speaker 1: that we would really be looking just you know, hit
Speaker 1: a button and we really you know, if one person
Speaker 1: could be in uh, you know, Europe and another person
Speaker 1: could be in in the Bay Area and and face
Speaker 1: time and with quality and talking to each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: start track. It really happened. So this makes it easier
Speaker 1: for us, you know, with Zoom and many other um,
Speaker 1: you know, apps and whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: um you know, because we can get in the studio
Speaker 1: right now and we can just all put it on
Speaker 1: FaceTime or you know what I'm saying me uh Skype
Speaker 1: or whatever you wanna call it, because Skype still around.
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, because I did it the
Speaker 1: other day and that should work. It was it was
Speaker 1: a company that wanted me because you know, I'll be
Speaker 1: I'm in the tech world and ship too. So they
Speaker 1: was like, now I'm gonna do Skype on this one.
Speaker 1: And that's they didn't step their shipped up too, you
Speaker 1: feel me? So they ain't it have been money, you know,
Speaker 1: but they yeah, so no, this is it's just great
Speaker 1: because we could be like you know, the producer will
Speaker 1: be right there, Okay, Man, just going to add some
Speaker 1: symbols to that right there. Just add a little some
Speaker 1: symbols and put more sinister sounds in there. Put some
Speaker 1: something like man with technology. Man, it's technology. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna do everything. If I can't get in the studio
Speaker 1: with fody, We're still making a song, man, know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You're still gonna make the song. So it's
Speaker 1: like when everything going back to the where it was.
Speaker 1: Even before it was like this, we was doing this stuff.
Speaker 1: We wasn't doing all these zooms. But if I had
Speaker 1: known the Zoom game, I would have been telling so
Speaker 1: many niggas. I had meetings with niggas it zoom me
Speaker 1: niggas like I would have been on that. So so
Speaker 1: I was saying, when we go back to the way
Speaker 1: it was, we're gonna utilize all this like to the
Speaker 1: funnest Like, bro, if I can't pull up, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pull up like this, man, we're gonna meet on the
Speaker 1: screen and we're gonna send a song email. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do this. We're gonna keep grinding. So I like this
Speaker 1: ship man, I was I thought we would fly back
Speaker 1: in the day when we had little studios on the
Speaker 1: tour bus and ship. I thought that was super technology. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a new level now earlier mid two thousand's obviously,
Speaker 1: rest in peace, mcdra The HiFi movement comes in and
Speaker 1: y'all stepped to the forefront of that, you know, with
Speaker 1: two anthems, low the whistle and uh tell me when
Speaker 1: to go. What was that movement like? Because that really
Speaker 1: again kind of stamped the bay again. Like they got
Speaker 1: this they on their own ship. They got this whole
Speaker 1: little movement going on again that did not only stayed
Speaker 1: there but swept the world. Sure beach are always telling me, man, man,
Speaker 1: they after doing that dance. So really a lot of
Speaker 1: the ship come from the town. But don't get it
Speaker 1: fucked up. Matt dre had his own thing too, you
Speaker 1: understand me, So we we would. I would always say
Speaker 1: that mac dray was like the in the forefront of
Speaker 1: all that. You know what I'm saying, Oh we did.
Speaker 1: All I did was joined in like everybody else from
Speaker 1: northern California, you know what I'm saying, Like, why not
Speaker 1: I never moved them out of this motherfucker And even
Speaker 1: if I did, so what I'm Bay Area to the heart,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I had to participate.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't Finn the player hey,
Speaker 1: So you know basically I was already doing songs while
Speaker 1: he was alive. We had the song with the with
Speaker 1: the Federation called you understand Me, um Haifie. Matt Drake
Speaker 1: was well alive. You know what I'm saying. Um. You
Speaker 1: know I went out there with Little John them um
Speaker 1: in two thousand four and I stayed out there for
Speaker 1: like three weeks and did my get a report card album?
Speaker 1: When I was out there. My work ethic was incredible. Um,
Speaker 1: I have I have the best of both worlds. I
Speaker 1: had Snap music because I was on like this two
Speaker 1: step remix and stuff like that. I was on the
Speaker 1: I was on you know, I was gonna snap your
Speaker 1: fingers and and many other songs out there. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Me Uh. And then I'm working with
Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in the Bay as well. You know,
Speaker 1: we had um you know this is a slumper. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with with with the boy, um
Speaker 1: with the boy, Uh, turf talk, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My cousin Turf talk with Crazy Rick Rock produced that
Speaker 1: this is a slumper. It's a slumper. This is a slumper.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We had I was the one. Oh,
Speaker 1: I had one. I had one. What the hell was called?
Speaker 1: We had some dumb ass do We had the one
Speaker 1: with we had the one with uh with, We had Heife,
Speaker 1: we had the one with fab we had my son
Speaker 1: Drew be produced with me Turf Talking and Fabular fab record. Um.
Speaker 1: Then it was called super sick with it like we
Speaker 1: was gradually making a whole new sound, you understand me.
Speaker 1: And so with that being said, you know John we
Speaker 1: one day it was a magical day, right and Short
Speaker 1: was there too? Short came in when I think Short
Speaker 1: you came in when I was doing muscle cars. Right
Speaker 1: was the muscle cars you came into the studio that day? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I checked that out the field of sessions man Atlanta. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so Short, because you know, little joh we we had
Speaker 1: to think on the studio and so umlutle job was
Speaker 1: just fucking around on the on the um on the drums,
Speaker 1: and he came with that motherfucker bom bom bom bom,
Speaker 1: bump bump bump, bump bomp, That's what that was. That's
Speaker 1: all right there. When he did that, we was like,
Speaker 1: oh that's a this is a whole another sound. This
Speaker 1: ain't this, ain't no this, ain't this, ain't hype. This
Speaker 1: is I mean this ain't this, ain't this, ain't no
Speaker 1: name for this butt HiPE because it's energy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know what I call I
Speaker 1: call you know that. You know I called keep the sneak.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That's his thing. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, energy, You know HIPI You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So kick kick kickers like the pain. You
Speaker 1: got him down the Atlanta right knock. It's a trick
Speaker 1: I was feeling. I was actually filed sending him the
Speaker 1: track and I and and Dang Fame was like, damn
Speaker 1: fan was like we in that line, I say, nigga,
Speaker 1: you're not in Atlanta, bro, because they ain't never in
Speaker 1: that line like that, you know, because I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I was saying I was hanging out in Atlanta. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the funk? I say, Man, Bro, nigga,
Speaker 1: look here, man, we got big liquor, we got big smoke,
Speaker 1: we got everything you need, big food. Slide through this
Speaker 1: motherfucker right now, coming stinky stink on your studio with
Speaker 1: the hurry up. That's my nigga. The niggas came. The
Speaker 1: niggas came through the man. I knew he was there.
Speaker 1: I thought, no, no, he was there, and so we
Speaker 1: when we so he came. So he heard muscle cars
Speaker 1: and just you know for us, muscle cars. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, he got that unique voice. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They killed this ship right. Let me tell
Speaker 1: the hyping story, man, the story go ahead, go ahead,
Speaker 1: and I got a story to trying to finish up though,
Speaker 1: because they want to know, they want to know. Short,
Speaker 1: go here, i'ta tell you. I'm gonna tell you the
Speaker 1: history of the hype. What this is gonna finish your man, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me finish up, and let me finish up and
Speaker 1: make a long story short and a short story long
Speaker 1: too short. Hello, So uh that's crazy. Hey. So what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is what I did was this, he came
Speaker 1: with muscle cars. Okay. I sent it to turf Talk.
Speaker 1: We emailed it to turf Talk. So turf Talk, get
Speaker 1: to the studio. I need you to write this whatever.
Speaker 1: So he wrote the ship, killed it, sent it back.
Speaker 1: Killed that ship that same day, the same motherfucking day.
Speaker 1: A few minutes after he made Little John made muscle cars,
Speaker 1: he was working around with the little drum thing do
Speaker 1: do cat do do do do Cat do? Cat do
Speaker 1: do do do cat do? Came with that drum pattern.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, ain't nothing, this is tribal. This ain't
Speaker 1: ain't no ship like this out there ever, this ain't
Speaker 1: never been no. This is something that's so unique, and
Speaker 1: no one I like unique ship. So I go on
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. I spent my ship. No before I even
Speaker 1: spent my ship. Keep kicking um dangn go to They
Speaker 1: huddled up. They went around the corner. They was violent,
Speaker 1: was drinking and everything, and he just and they went
Speaker 1: around the corner like around the corn when I said
Speaker 1: literally around the corner, like in the hallway, and huddled
Speaker 1: up and was like, tell me when they got damn
Speaker 1: when they got tell me when they got you're feeling
Speaker 1: to talk about. And so they came in there did
Speaker 1: the hook. I'm like, I added my little crazy as
Speaker 1: what tell me when the girl? And then lu John's
Speaker 1: just LuSE John looked at me, and I looked at him.
Speaker 1: He just he went found dumb girl by run DMC
Speaker 1: and just dumb, dumb um dumb girl. I'll say this,
Speaker 1: naked a little John Tho. Right, that's when he came
Speaker 1: with that dum dum dum dumb you feel me? And
Speaker 1: it was just magic in that bit. So then so
Speaker 1: we had we had two verses on there, right, I
Speaker 1: had a verse at the first verse, Juice Critch had
Speaker 1: dress to shake him. I ain't got nothing about playing
Speaker 1: on girls something. Kick had his ship. Then we sent
Speaker 1: the same ship to turf Talk. Turf Talk killed it.
Speaker 1: Turf Talk couse of turk Talk gas that thing. So
Speaker 1: little John steppy and he just turf talk killed that ship.
Speaker 1: But nib you gotta we gotta take him off of
Speaker 1: that one, because we already got on muscle cars, right,
Speaker 1: we gotta take them. We gotta take him off of
Speaker 1: that You neither one of y'all need to wrap on
Speaker 1: the third verse, nobody, you need to do a chance.
Speaker 1: He said, you need to do a chance. I need
Speaker 1: you to talk about everything that goes on in y'all
Speaker 1: region in the Bay Area. With that movement, y'all got
Speaker 1: going on and that's when I did it, and it
Speaker 1: became a classic gas record. I was gonna let y'all
Speaker 1: know that hell off classic record, Classic Verse classic. Now
Speaker 1: let me tell you what the hype is, man, This this,
Speaker 1: this is what, this is what happened. So what what
Speaker 1: somebody that's not from the Bay would think as the hype,
Speaker 1: You would think it was a movement from two thousand
Speaker 1: and two or something to like five six, seven years later,
Speaker 1: And it was this movement that happened. It really was
Speaker 1: nine year round. So hife never had a name. It's
Speaker 1: is the way Bay Nick is acted. That's what we did.
Speaker 1: We had side shows, they burned rubber, they had you know,
Speaker 1: show off your card, and it was the whole fully everything,
Speaker 1: like you know, the whole I'm saying, the whole Bay.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you get together, you burn rubber, you
Speaker 1: you do your ship, y'all hang out wherever it be
Speaker 1: with intersection, wherever that ship being going down the mall
Speaker 1: parking lot. Whatever the way they was dancing was, you know,
Speaker 1: it was the the Bay ship was like real Mahdi
Speaker 1: And I think what what Kick the Snake and mac
Speaker 1: drey did was they made it. They you know, ecstasy
Speaker 1: started getting popular and they made it a little more
Speaker 1: fun and it was partying and ship. They still spitting
Speaker 1: the same game that everybody's been getting from E forty
Speaker 1: and Too Short. But then they turned it into you know,
Speaker 1: out in the streets, the little the little hipie dance
Speaker 1: and all that ship. They was doing that ship before
Speaker 1: they called it hype. Somebody just gave it a name
Speaker 1: one day and then Little John is Little John is
Speaker 1: hold me from Atlanta who I was working with Little
Speaker 1: John even when he worked with Jermaine Duprie so so deaf.
Speaker 1: I've been working with Little John since, like since he
Speaker 1: wasn't even famous, and Little John has always been my guy.
Speaker 1: So we did a lot of songs together, a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of music together, a
Speaker 1: lot And at one point Little John was getting really
Speaker 1: hot in the game and he went to do a
Speaker 1: show in the bay and he hit me up and
Speaker 1: he said, man, it's some ship going on in the bay.
Speaker 1: That's he like, I want to funk with that ship.
Speaker 1: He's like, he said, I want to make you and
Speaker 1: E forty records like that. So Little John wentdn't got
Speaker 1: a taste of whatever was going on. He got some
Speaker 1: some mac dre is um, some kick the sneak is m.
Speaker 1: He got something he caught win up and because he's
Speaker 1: a DJ, and he DJ parties and you know what
Speaker 1: makes parties go. So he had a mission to give
Speaker 1: e forty in two story hit records that went with
Speaker 1: this movement that was happening in the bay and little
Speaker 1: Short that's true, right, But the the sound that he
Speaker 1: came with was like, I mean, he's an overachiever, no other,
Speaker 1: no other ever on his earth. Like the ship that
Speaker 1: was going on, there was hype in the bay. Didn't
Speaker 1: sound nothing like to tell me when to go and
Speaker 1: motherfucking um and and blow the whistle like and what
Speaker 1: was kick the stink song he did? He didn't want
Speaker 1: to kick too right, No, he didn't do one for kick, No,
Speaker 1: he did. That's my word track Millian did that. Oh
Speaker 1: it's that's that's just sound like a Jeans Rick Rock
Speaker 1: did Blue. Little John was giving hypee Beach to niggas
Speaker 1: Pete Pablo, Uh, he was beat to Yan Yang Twins.
Speaker 1: That nigga was you know that fucking up Ussher and
Speaker 1: uh and Little John that yeah, that's kind of hype
Speaker 1: that when she was on that vibe come on, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So and we got Rick Rock.
Speaker 1: Rick Rock had a lot to do with the hype movement.
Speaker 1: To man, the federation what they sound that I think
Speaker 1: you seeing you're sounded. I call HiFi. If you want
Speaker 1: to put a name hype on it is Rick Rock sound.
Speaker 1: That's me. That's my personal London. Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Tracks a million was enhancing the sound. Little John did
Speaker 1: a version of it, but that the heart of the babe,
Speaker 1: that fucking but everybody was trying to be like a
Speaker 1: sound like with Rick Rock. Rick roll out about it. Rock.
Speaker 1: It's the truth. So you know that ship that should happened, man.
Speaker 1: And then if the last thing I want to say is,
Speaker 1: just like I said, you think hype is a fucking
Speaker 1: time frame, that ship is still going on right now. Man,
Speaker 1: it's the same. It's the same exact ship. It ain't changed.
Speaker 1: Niggas are still hip. If the right song come on,
Speaker 1: new or old, it's still crazy. Yeah, just a newer
Speaker 1: type dance to a little flavor to it. They're doing
Speaker 1: their dances because the dances never more than that surfaced.
Speaker 1: They never really surface surface surface to the globe like
Speaker 1: you makes you do it, the music makes you do it.
Speaker 1: The whole bay had dress. Don't get fund up. We
Speaker 1: didn't create driss. You know, like I say, dress being
Speaker 1: around you know the way before we was even thought up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm saying. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, the whole bay realized this had
Speaker 1: no shirt song with dread locks. Everybody in the bay
Speaker 1: had dress with no shirt song. Helen Nias in the
Speaker 1: video with dred locks next to you know, the whole
Speaker 1: world start growing up. I know we had a big
Speaker 1: influence on the hip hop with that ship down right now,
Speaker 1: New York had dress and like a more of a
Speaker 1: different type of way. It was like different though when
Speaker 1: this ship, when the ship hit the bay, when the
Speaker 1: base having dress, it was different. It was shaking up.
Speaker 1: They were just sinking them. Thank you for putting that
Speaker 1: in perspective, because they want abody thinking of hating on
Speaker 1: him or nothing. That's all Miami niggas had brains early, early, early,
Speaker 1: But they wasn't sinking them like I said. They wasn't
Speaker 1: like just like he said, they were taking That was
Speaker 1: the best way to ever say it. They definitely had
Speaker 1: the real day and they had to they had to
Speaker 1: dress with they they had to dress. They had them
Speaker 1: Rostafarian dress too, and the other kind. You feel me?
Speaker 1: So yeah, hell yeah, the world been on them. Don't
Speaker 1: get it sunked up. I don't want nobody take this
Speaker 1: sound body being like man the first one with dress,
Speaker 1: because they'll do that ship, they'll do that to be
Speaker 1: they do that. You know what I'm saying. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying we had a big influence. Yeah, they do that ship. Hey,
Speaker 1: but hey, but Jesus had them first. How about that
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ and dress. Huh. Now, I'll set you down
Speaker 1: right now and play you a whole list of songs
Speaker 1: that nobody's from the bag. It'll be some Tiger songs,
Speaker 1: it might be some some y g to be some
Speaker 1: risky kid me to to chains. I mean, listen long
Speaker 1: Yo Gotti and this all HIKEI songs Drake and it's
Speaker 1: the hype ain't going nowhere. It's a vibe that it happened,
Speaker 1: and it's happening, and I think it comes from I
Speaker 1: can take you back to like some early two shorts,
Speaker 1: some early forty and it's hype. It's the same beat Mr. Flamboyant,
Speaker 1: like it's hype like we've been doing it. It's just
Speaker 1: it just it just got a name. Nothing about that,
Speaker 1: y'all know nothing about that. It's hard. Why'll be telling
Speaker 1: people the bay is like his own little world, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And and with little John went
Speaker 1: out there, he got a small taste of it. But like,
Speaker 1: where did y'all get your vernacular? From the way you
Speaker 1: pronounced stuff, do stuff, the way you move, just your
Speaker 1: whole swag for you've always been known for creating words
Speaker 1: like where did all that kind of wordplay come from?
Speaker 1: Top of the line? Why don't call us rossy? It's
Speaker 1: natural like an Afro. This ship, this ship is embroidered
Speaker 1: in US. You know what I'm saying, Man, we got
Speaker 1: we got this. We got don't get it funked up.
Speaker 1: We got the South in US. You know, my daddy
Speaker 1: for Mississippi. You understanding, my granddad, my mama's daddy and
Speaker 1: mama they're from Louisiana. They're from Bernice, Louisiana. You're still
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Ship like that, So it's like we
Speaker 1: got like you know, we got we got Richmond. The
Speaker 1: Richmond folks, like I always talk about Richmond because you know, man,
Speaker 1: when you talk about what got the South end that
Speaker 1: they're gonna never leave, that's Richmond. May Hey, mate, hey mate,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Richmond. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: telling because I was laced by Richard. I was laced
Speaker 1: by Richmond cass to like street niggas, like street niggas
Speaker 1: from Richmond, like Bona Fide, Unstan and rappers South to
Speaker 1: Magic Bank and count the teeth. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like they came out. I to always say, man,
Speaker 1: some of these Richard niggas come out here, nigga with
Speaker 1: permanent They came out the womb with permanent gold teeth. Nigga. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they popped that ship. They got gang. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So this whole babe, I think what
Speaker 1: it is a lot of people, a lot of the
Speaker 1: grandparents and stuff like that moved to the babe. They
Speaker 1: went to Alan be the Air Force basically with the
Speaker 1: Travis Air Force, basically with the Mare Island. They went
Speaker 1: to all through all all through the Bay and set
Speaker 1: up shot because it was in the military that you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The grandparents you know what, the
Speaker 1: grandfather's and so they moved their family out here. And
Speaker 1: that's and you put all that ship together, and the
Speaker 1: bay just got a unique way of things. Don't get
Speaker 1: it funked up. It's not. It's just a mixture of
Speaker 1: you know. And I always say the town, it's like
Speaker 1: you're understanding. And the nucleus they are they they they
Speaker 1: they they're the center of the bay. Like they the ones.
Speaker 1: They create a lot of ship. The town is Oakland,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I give them that.
Speaker 1: And you know, I got a lot of my game
Speaker 1: because they was living a We're from a small city.
Speaker 1: We gaged up. Don't get it funked up, cause we
Speaker 1: got the game from everywhere. Me and mcdrey and all
Speaker 1: of us, we got the game from everywhere, but we
Speaker 1: all had our own thing. So we got we got
Speaker 1: the whole bait. And that's me and mc dre. We
Speaker 1: had the whole bay in us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We have Oakland, Ritz and Frisco, he's Paliato. You understand me. Um,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm And the whole the whole bank,
Speaker 1: you feel me, so so on and so forth, and
Speaker 1: and we had us. So you pull up if you
Speaker 1: pull up on Hunters Point, you pull up on Fillmore,
Speaker 1: you pull up West Southland, East Southland, Uh dip somewhere
Speaker 1: like East Pola fucking Valletto Park, you know, Richmond. It's
Speaker 1: all these slick ass, slick niggas that just old niggas
Speaker 1: is older than us. That always was just cool as fun,
Speaker 1: whether they was custling or pipping or just some old
Speaker 1: like you said, old Southern nigga that just you know
Speaker 1: how South nigga just be cool like you nick, you
Speaker 1: don't even gotta have no money, but the nigga got cool.
Speaker 1: And then we just we got that ship. And you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We and motherfucker you gotta have
Speaker 1: you know, motherfucker walked up point. What's up? Bro? You
Speaker 1: gotta say your your next thing gotta be some slick
Speaker 1: and little niggathing like motherfucker tell me what's up? Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Bro? Oh Man? Sometimes me always you you
Speaker 1: gotta be ready. That's that shift I'm talking about, though.
Speaker 1: For do you be saying some ship though to you
Speaker 1: make you think after you hear it, because you didn't
Speaker 1: really hear it the first time. Like you gotta what
Speaker 1: do you just say? So here it is, Matt. You
Speaker 1: know I'm one of them to do is. Man. You
Speaker 1: know I can throw you five ounces a game, but
Speaker 1: you only might catch two of them. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's gonna go over there here like an umbrella.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like like right now, one of my
Speaker 1: newest ones that I was. I made this up probably
Speaker 1: bout a month ago. I was like, somebody asked me, man,
Speaker 1: what you've been up to? I say, man, saying story different, worry.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a mixture of things. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, it's just a mixture of
Speaker 1: things like the grip dont quit, man, It's like, this
Speaker 1: is what we do. We specialize in vernacular and slang
Speaker 1: and game and all that. Ship. My favorite new one, bro,
Speaker 1: my favorite newes is you'd be sliding it so smooth.
Speaker 1: It is the plandemic, he said the first time that, Sir,
Speaker 1: I said, you said what I need. I need to
Speaker 1: be in one of the Muscato commercials. Forty next time.
Speaker 1: Let me know I'm gonna see y'all. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: y'all care package. Man, I'm gonna get y'all all the
Speaker 1: motherfucking alcohol. Bro, You're gonna have a bar hello right now,
Speaker 1: I'm on Earl Stevens Watermelon speaking up? What you want?
Speaker 1: What you want? What you want? What you wanted water?
Speaker 1: That watermelon? That watermelt man? What you want? What you want?
Speaker 1: What you want? You want coyper Bill bourbon eight age
Speaker 1: for eight years. You want cyper Bill top? This is
Speaker 1: top drawer, Bro, what you want? You gotta tell me
Speaker 1: what y'all want? Do you want the cotton? Do you
Speaker 1: do you want the Earl Stevens cotton, candy, sparkling wine cotton.
Speaker 1: I just want to wine. I just want wine. I
Speaker 1: just want wine. Also, so you want why so you want?
Speaker 1: When I was drinking on versus? You want the mango skisnado?
Speaker 1: Yeah that skisno Yeah, you brought it up. He speaking
Speaker 1: of versus right here to short a love that he
Speaker 1: let the blue lagol and I gotta go get there.
Speaker 1: That dawn all came man and slurry cane is very effective.
Speaker 1: Speaking of versus, y'all shut versus down. The numbers were crazy,
Speaker 1: the energy was crazy. I remember I was in Texas
Speaker 1: for AU and we had just played the game and
Speaker 1: went to dinner. I had it on for all the
Speaker 1: parents to watch. Y'all shut that ship down. How how
Speaker 1: much fun was this as fun there as y'all made
Speaker 1: it look, because y'all started drinking and got wet. Short
Speaker 1: started changing outfits on this all kinds of ship before
Speaker 1: he started then like us like, I got on my seat,
Speaker 1: I got my I got I got on my seat
Speaker 1: when I said, sha, put the uh with the agree
Speaker 1: over the age jacket on it. Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 1: I got my seat there, Bro, I got out my seat. Hey,
Speaker 1: they was entertained like they entertained us. It wasn't just
Speaker 1: throw your song against my son. They was real showman
Speaker 1: games and been shipped out there. So how did that
Speaker 1: come about it? How much fun did y'all have doing that?
Speaker 1: First of all, Short, we sure get going this nicking comedy. Bro.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what what time he was in Detroit? Right?
Speaker 1: What time? We in the MGM casino and we're just
Speaker 1: now walking in show. I was like, Nick, I got
Speaker 1: some pussy out there, and he just I said, okay, sure,
Speaker 1: wenn talking to you later, and he just and then
Speaker 1: he just slid off. He had to rent a card
Speaker 1: and he just said he before he slid off, He
Speaker 1: just and just slid off. Say this nig is short
Speaker 1: and thow. So once you get short going, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you to do this. And we did this many times
Speaker 1: in our life in the studio and together any time
Speaker 1: we gather up, but go ahead and tell him, tell
Speaker 1: him how we did this ship short, tell him hand on.
Speaker 1: It was just no no rehearse, no no talking points. No,
Speaker 1: let's not discussed what we're gonna do and what we
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do. Let's just go out there and do
Speaker 1: what we do. And I knew that forty was you know,
Speaker 1: something was he was gonna get a special something, something
Speaker 1: was gonna be you know, he was gonna have moments,
Speaker 1: he was gonna bring it and like he did. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta have some ship fits. I
Speaker 1: gotta have something like that side keep up with the
Speaker 1: water and ship. And now, you know, I just knew
Speaker 1: that if we rehearsed it, or if we told each
Speaker 1: other we was gonna do it, wasn't gonna be right.
Speaker 1: And then the other part is everybody loved I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I was invested in the g Z Gucci
Speaker 1: thing because I remember when they was homies and we
Speaker 1: was all hanging out, and I just you know that
Speaker 1: at lattin days and and I kind of I think
Speaker 1: I look at that as one of my my personal
Speaker 1: hip hop tragedies of Gucci and Jess not spit teen
Speaker 1: years to know that you. I'm gonna let you talk,
Speaker 1: but I want to I want to say this. It's
Speaker 1: a trip because I met Gucci and Jeez the same
Speaker 1: day two thousand two. Who I was on um we
Speaker 1: we we were shooting a video with Blue Da Vinci.
Speaker 1: We was on big Beach bus in Atlanta. You understand me,
Speaker 1: some free big beach man, you understand me. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I got I got songs. I got great
Speaker 1: songs with with Jeez, Young Jeezy and Gucci. Man, I
Speaker 1: funk with them both. I got number loveing them brothers,
Speaker 1: and I would it just it just made me feel
Speaker 1: so good, man, when I see them dudes, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of patch it up in front of
Speaker 1: the world and and show showmanship, man, to show show
Speaker 1: the world that things can be. You know, things could
Speaker 1: come out you know pretty good man. If you, if you,
Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you open minded, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so I'm gonna let you get back
Speaker 1: to it to it. But a lot of verses UM
Speaker 1: had that battle element where it came from, you know,
Speaker 1: the first verses, the early ones was like let's battle
Speaker 1: and see you know, you know, whether it's polic for
Speaker 1: fun or in that case of Jeezy and Gucci, everybody
Speaker 1: was watching because it was so real, like it was
Speaker 1: just you know, the real elements of it. So we
Speaker 1: knew about all the verses. I've seen Jill and Eric
Speaker 1: and we see it, you know, all of them. You
Speaker 1: know the style it was going into one thing. We
Speaker 1: was like, well man, we were wrapping that baber, so
Speaker 1: you know, right off the rip, we gotta be different
Speaker 1: than anything that ever happened in Versus. Ever, that's the
Speaker 1: first thing in foremost so we uh they came up
Speaker 1: with that. That was you and Larry and all the Swissing,
Speaker 1: all them. They came up with to let's celebrate the
Speaker 1: bay and I was I was kind of like not
Speaker 1: really on board any kind of way you looked at it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a fan of Versus, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to be I don't want to battle nobody
Speaker 1: like too short against somebody. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: And then when they devised the the concept of the
Speaker 1: celebrate the Bay and tell the story of the Bay,
Speaker 1: I'm like, now that I can get here. And then
Speaker 1: all we had to do was um, a little bit
Speaker 1: of tequila some we had some slur cane up there.
Speaker 1: It was was like y'all was on one for real.
Speaker 1: You know. We were just kind of like, hey, we
Speaker 1: just went there. Man. Like I literally like I haven't
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it back, but I literally like enjoyed
Speaker 1: that as a moment in my memory is like a
Speaker 1: really good time I had. Like it was fun. I
Speaker 1: mean you could sing along literally like I said, we
Speaker 1: was at the time, I forgot what restaurant, Jack, what's
Speaker 1: the I'm forgetting this pissing me off? And we go
Speaker 1: to Dallas the little Uh, what's the big restaurant. It's
Speaker 1: it's in Houston. It's the seafood and all the no,
Speaker 1: no at all, yo. So we took the whole team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how did I forget that? We took that. We took
Speaker 1: the kids whole team there. So the kids are at
Speaker 1: one table, parents at the other table. I had my
Speaker 1: phone set up and I put in the company. It
Speaker 1: was blasting. Everybody was singing, and we was danced like
Speaker 1: we had a really good time. No, we've got fucked
Speaker 1: up listening to everything. Everybody got drunk, but we had
Speaker 1: like a real good time, just like I said, But
Speaker 1: such great memories the time from the beginning to the end.
Speaker 1: You could sing along with everything. Man, So we definitely
Speaker 1: wanted to slute you all for that, man, because y'all
Speaker 1: definitely bless us with that that. You know we do.
Speaker 1: You know what we did before, thank y'all. Man. You
Speaker 1: know what we did before we even got it started.
Speaker 1: We prayed. You know. You know I'm here to encourage you.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to act like I'm a saying or anything.
Speaker 1: I was raised by Granddaddy Thurman. You know what I'm saying, Um,
Speaker 1: Reverend Thurman. You know Charles Thurman. That's that's uncle st Charles, Daddy,
Speaker 1: my mom and daddy. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: was a preacher sixty years in the game. You know,
Speaker 1: die when he's eighty two years old. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I'm saying I got that in me,
Speaker 1: and I pray into any situation like if before you
Speaker 1: even have a conversation, even if it's some three stuff
Speaker 1: or whatever. It is, any difficult situation, if you got
Speaker 1: to make a um a choice, you know, you pray
Speaker 1: on them period in life in general. And that's what
Speaker 1: we did. We this was this didn't had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with none of that, but it was like, let's
Speaker 1: pray on it for a successful night. Asked God to
Speaker 1: put the blood Jesus wrong, the blood Jesus around our
Speaker 1: family at home. That to be a successful event, and
Speaker 1: let us all get back safe. And Jesus name a man.
Speaker 1: And that's what we did, and it became one of
Speaker 1: them was and then me and short one to go
Speaker 1: pick up a bag after that or during and after
Speaker 1: of late. Not to change the tone, but I think
Speaker 1: this person is important just in the whole game overall.
Speaker 1: We've seen Dre in the hospital. Obviously we wish him
Speaker 1: a speedy recovery. To your guys eyes and seeing this
Speaker 1: whole journey of music, how important is Dre's path in
Speaker 1: in music? Man he was you know he was before
Speaker 1: he was before us. I believe it was the world
Speaker 1: class record crew. Yeah, you know, uh it turn off
Speaker 1: the license dates before I turned off to I used
Speaker 1: to slap that hell out of mister Lacey album. I'm serious,
Speaker 1: like I had a Blue. I Had a Blue. That
Speaker 1: was her singing that before she was famous. She was
Speaker 1: singing that song on World Class Record Crew. See okay,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm in there you and I'm in there.
Speaker 1: So you know, like Dr Dre, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you right now, man, that dude is iconic. He
Speaker 1: means so much. You know, as I get older, I
Speaker 1: get wiser, you look back, you're like, dude. You know,
Speaker 1: dude really brought a lot to hip hop overall, not
Speaker 1: just the West Coast overall, you know, and he's still
Speaker 1: setting examples. I mean, this man is you know, pretty
Speaker 1: much a billion there man. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: This man gave up a lot to get to and
Speaker 1: and and God blessed it with way more. You know.
Speaker 1: You know, Drey is really really really important man, from
Speaker 1: uh you know, just cultural standpoint of how he is
Speaker 1: one of the biggest in the game and you want
Speaker 1: to like brag on your region. You know, I got
Speaker 1: pluff daddy, I got baby cash money with ever. You know,
Speaker 1: we got Dr Dre, we got you know, West Coast
Speaker 1: hip hop legend, a fucking billionaire. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: made it off hip hop, So the dream is there.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, um and on it. From a
Speaker 1: technical standpoint, you got Dr Dre in the game even
Speaker 1: before Too Short and fucking Iced Tea. Like he's out
Speaker 1: there making records and he's the nigger who early on
Speaker 1: brings you Easy. Then follows that up with ice Cube
Speaker 1: Wren and they come as a group called n w A.
Speaker 1: And then at the same time, I was on tour
Speaker 1: with m w A when they went on on the
Speaker 1: Straight Out of Conference tour. I was on that tour
Speaker 1: because I had Freaky tails out and Easy was my homie,
Speaker 1: and um, while we on tour, Dr Dre and Easy
Speaker 1: dropped d o C's album. And while he's on tour,
Speaker 1: he's nobody and body the end of the tour, he's somebody,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he came home and
Speaker 1: like he's famous, Like you got the hottest album out.
Speaker 1: I have forgot that story. I talked to DNC and
Speaker 1: he reminded me he's like, while I'm on tour, the
Speaker 1: tour ends and as it ends, I'm the hottest artist
Speaker 1: out at the moment, and I mean Drake later on
Speaker 1: comes he brings you uh you know, a large part
Speaker 1: of Toothpac that we love. You know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Dre did all that Toothpac death Fro stuff, but
Speaker 1: I'm saying like just jumping off California was enough. When
Speaker 1: the pot came home to just that Dre stamp and
Speaker 1: it was just you know, the vibe Drake. Dre gave
Speaker 1: us some uh fifty cent them and them like just
Speaker 1: just snoop snoopy dog. He's by Dre, like he just
Speaker 1: just I mean, he's just important, man, That's all it is.
Speaker 1: Like he really is important. I'm gonna tell you one thing.
Speaker 1: We used to take the Chronic and it was like
Speaker 1: a few songs on there, like probably like three songs
Speaker 1: that we used to use. Listen to the first Chronic
Speaker 1: album and we would we would mix our songs and
Speaker 1: then we will play Dre song, and then we play
Speaker 1: our song and we go if the ship don't sound
Speaker 1: close to Dre a song, we gotta go back at
Speaker 1: the studio and mixing some more. Like like we gotta
Speaker 1: like like literally, I I made a lot of records
Speaker 1: like using the Chronic as the bar. That's how important
Speaker 1: Dre is. That's real that you spoke on Short, you
Speaker 1: spoke on Easy. Can you speak to your relationship and
Speaker 1: what you guys are both young in the game and
Speaker 1: coming up. What was that relationship Like, well, you know
Speaker 1: in the hip hop game, man, we we um we
Speaker 1: like to have the moments where you the hottest Canada
Speaker 1: summer or you got a banger. That's an anthem, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We we we thrive for their
Speaker 1: moments and being easy. And it was like summer eighty seven,
Speaker 1: pushing in eight. We had Boys in the Hood and
Speaker 1: Freaky Tails was out at the same time, and it
Speaker 1: was like deniably the trump was just we owned the
Speaker 1: trunk while them two records was out. We just had
Speaker 1: that moment and that was he was doing an easy
Speaker 1: solo thing, but they were prepping for, you know, getting
Speaker 1: ready for n w A. So when n w A
Speaker 1: came out, that thing just just blew up straight out
Speaker 1: of competence, just blew up. And I mean I was
Speaker 1: out there on that same level, you know, in that
Speaker 1: same audience and Easy. It was like, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: this dude too short with me, So I got to call,
Speaker 1: He's like, like you want to go on to him, like,
Speaker 1: I've never been on tour. I'm like, that was you.
Speaker 1: That was your first time touring, man, that was the
Speaker 1: first time going into arenas and it sold out and
Speaker 1: it's the you know, the the light come on and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, this whole stadium and so yeah,
Speaker 1: that's first time. So you know, um yeah, I credit
Speaker 1: Easy for that and I went on that tour. When
Speaker 1: I got out on tour, I dropped The Life Is
Speaker 1: Too Short the album and it was at like three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand sales. When the tour ended, I was at
Speaker 1: eight hundred thousands sales just from the tour. Another another
Speaker 1: you know, five hundred thousand. Then I get off tour
Speaker 1: and it thinks, l like another five hundred thousand, like
Speaker 1: just right, like it's just like that that whole you know,
Speaker 1: connected with Dre and Easy, like that just just changed everything.
Speaker 1: That was the beginning of my friendship with ice Cube,
Speaker 1: which is a lifelong friendship. That's you know that you know,
Speaker 1: just the same as always was right now and it's
Speaker 1: just you know that that was that moment where you
Speaker 1: you know, you you know, get out in the world,
Speaker 1: and it's the it's the first time you you know,
Speaker 1: I've come home. I got the Mercedes in the housepit
Speaker 1: of pool. Oh you know all that type of ships.
Speaker 1: So that was that moment in life. And Easy was
Speaker 1: he was like a real you know, like let's talk
Speaker 1: about you say, how important is Dre? How important it's Easy?
Speaker 1: Because Easy Easy goes and gets the bag that brings
Speaker 1: Dre out of world class record crew where he wasn't
Speaker 1: happy or you know, I talked to Lines on his
Speaker 1: and his version, but Dre clicked up with Easy. They
Speaker 1: started doing that thing. Easy was grinding in the streets,
Speaker 1: putting that money together for them to make that move,
Speaker 1: you know. And I mean if you just think if
Speaker 1: you put Dr Dre on the Easy family tree, I
Speaker 1: mean that tree is tremendous man with with the ice
Speaker 1: cubes and the bone thugs and the d o cs
Speaker 1: and a bud of law and Michell Leihan and and
Speaker 1: it goes to eminem and fifty sending anybody you want
Speaker 1: to connect to anything that came from the Easy branch.
Speaker 1: The man you take away Easy and none of that happens.
Speaker 1: What is what I mean? Like like for real though,
Speaker 1: So he had that he had that vision man, and
Speaker 1: he was you know, he was he was a business
Speaker 1: guy and he was he was what I've seen him
Speaker 1: in action. He was a short dude, but he always
Speaker 1: stayed trap and he always I've never seen him like
Speaker 1: in the movie when they he had to be scary
Speaker 1: and whatever in the movie. I've never seen that ship.
Speaker 1: I've never seen I heard that too. They said he
Speaker 1: wasn't backing down to nobody. Yeah, I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: I've seen him a lot of times like buck up
Speaker 1: on people and like what like I So you know,
Speaker 1: I know he was really in the streets. I talked
Speaker 1: to the guys who was like I used to uh
Speaker 1: serve with him. I used to serve him what he had.
Speaker 1: I've seen they liked the nigger really was out there.
Speaker 1: So um, he had a lot of kids. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was on tour. He had more. He had more bitches
Speaker 1: than all of us, like like by hard like you nink.
Speaker 1: It was a super player and you know he was
Speaker 1: a baller man. So you know the rest. So y'all
Speaker 1: both just recently UH dropped the bundle album forty for You.
Speaker 1: It's your twenty seven short for you, your twenty second
Speaker 1: about that project. Oh oh man, come on man, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so so so, um, you know we did we did
Speaker 1: the Versus on the ninetees and we you know that
Speaker 1: Friday was a good day to drop music. I had one.
Speaker 1: I had an album playing. Actually it was gonna be
Speaker 1: an EP curb commentator channel three. Um, so I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, let me throw a curveballing and let's postpone
Speaker 1: that and just call it. You know, stand me terms
Speaker 1: and conditions, you understand me. And then I resume you know,
Speaker 1: the curb commentator later on, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, Short was like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: dropping too, and I was like, let's put it in
Speaker 1: the so so who's that who? Galing Galen has said
Speaker 1: let's put it, let's bombs put it in a bundle,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I like, that's that's just
Speaker 1: that makes sense that you know that way we can
Speaker 1: just you know, we get on each other songs like
Speaker 1: we always do, you know what I'm saying, And we
Speaker 1: put it half on on the pr campaign. It's a
Speaker 1: whole lot of it. There was a whole lot of
Speaker 1: pluses to bundling the albums together, but then it was
Speaker 1: also like it's versus, and we took the opportunity to
Speaker 1: kind of like if you listen to the projects, they
Speaker 1: really it's really like Oh to the Bay, Like it's
Speaker 1: really real baish, like real managed based out. And that
Speaker 1: was done on purpose on my side for show, for show,
Speaker 1: like really just trying to make it like I don't
Speaker 1: even I wasn't even trying to get you know, like
Speaker 1: really like commercial vibe. I just wanted like some real
Speaker 1: street babe bump to go with Versus. And then you know,
Speaker 1: we we got the Mountain Westmore project coming. Westmore is
Speaker 1: gonna be huge, man, mount Westmore is gonna be huge.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be huge. This is I want to see.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to cut you off short, but I
Speaker 1: want to get up out of this mother fan motherfucker
Speaker 1: pandemic so that so that group can go on tour.
Speaker 1: That's what I want. I want to see that lot.
Speaker 1: You know, hearing it's gonna be great, but seeing it
Speaker 1: in person it's gonna be incredible. Want to hear Curb commentator.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear Curb commentator the Curb commentator.
Speaker 1: I'm back on it. I'm right. Look the grip. Don't
Speaker 1: quite with me every day I'm in it's this Newdo
Speaker 1: you understand me? And I'm going crazy? And uh, I
Speaker 1: just feel like if I'm in my right mind and
Speaker 1: I got my life health and strength, and I got
Speaker 1: God on my side, I'll be able to make music forever.
Speaker 1: As long as I'm in my right mind and I
Speaker 1: got my life health and strength. That's very important, right mine,
Speaker 1: life health and strength. That means a lot that way,
Speaker 1: because I'm my sarftuvity and everything else is gonna be there.
Speaker 1: Adaptabilities come on exactly, man, and I and I and
Speaker 1: I'm in the loop like a hula hoop. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I ain't out the frame. I'm in
Speaker 1: the game. Hello, you know you got y'all have spoken earlier.
Speaker 1: But what is the transition into business been like for
Speaker 1: you guys? I mean saying, you know, black business owner,
Speaker 1: these days are very important for do you got a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on in the in the in
Speaker 1: the alcohol space. Talk to us for a second about
Speaker 1: what that, what that means to you and how important
Speaker 1: that is to you. Okay, this is important for me
Speaker 1: right now to actually plugging this phone right now, plug
Speaker 1: let me plugging in for I don't want it to
Speaker 1: die on me. Well, I'm talking to y'all, so i'd
Speaker 1: rather have I'd rather have a messed up speaker when
Speaker 1: I often put you on the loud speaker, right quick,
Speaker 1: hold on while I talk to you. Yes, then what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Okay, can y'all hear me? Now? Can you
Speaker 1: hear me? You said you said like you call it
Speaker 1: from jail, but we can hear you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know the sign like you know the sounds like
Speaker 1: he sound like he's he's sound like on the intro
Speaker 1: one love what a bit call him when I call him?
Speaker 1: Look at this mate? You can you hear me? Now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, listen? Get them ship? Look at the look
Speaker 1: at the look at the spring make a way out
Speaker 1: of no way? Was the substitute way? You know? Now?
Speaker 1: We sounded cool? Now? Yeah? Hello? So, um, what we're
Speaker 1: talking about? What we're talking about? Some m what was
Speaker 1: we talking about? Black business back? Black business owner and
Speaker 1: in your company for shore for show for shore for show?
Speaker 1: Hey man? Look and then you can go to my
Speaker 1: Instagram right now. I just like to display certain things
Speaker 1: and show people that I ain't just know you understand me.
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't late like a holiday freight, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like I've been on my Entrepreneur
Speaker 1: by Black, you know Black Excellence just there in the
Speaker 1: third you know, show, trying to show improve, trying to
Speaker 1: show people that you can be an entrepreneur at a
Speaker 1: young age. You know, you gotta stand out. Dare in
Speaker 1: my in my in my teens, I was like like
Speaker 1: fresh out of nineteen when I had the clothing store
Speaker 1: and called New Fat Clothing. Me and me and d
Speaker 1: Shot And now in fact I was I was eight
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, you know what I'm saying. So me
Speaker 1: and d Shot my brother. We went got a clothing
Speaker 1: store on Salano Avenue. We bought we went to the garden,
Speaker 1: the district buck clothes we ordered from. You know, back
Speaker 1: then it was like um carawl can I you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, cross colors, those kind of a lot
Speaker 1: of rayon stuff like jeans, spray painted jeans and and
Speaker 1: what you call them, um different clothes. So he was
Speaker 1: a fashion muggle. Man, I ain't know this part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a clothing store. I was a young mustache
Speaker 1: from the soil from that ship everybody. Everybody knew it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I knew how to
Speaker 1: I knew what I was doing. You know, we had
Speaker 1: we had real fixtures come through there, you know, spend
Speaker 1: money with us and whatnot. It was beautiful and um,
Speaker 1: you know, we just so happened and I take my
Speaker 1: little bread that I make on that and go walk
Speaker 1: down three four. Okay, so you have you have to clothe.
Speaker 1: You had to check cashing store right next door to us.
Speaker 1: First you had first you had Davenport, they was on
Speaker 1: our left. Then you had had that. Um, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a that's they do taxes and stuff. They do
Speaker 1: a lot of some lebrity taxes because he used to
Speaker 1: bring greaters through there and everything to us store. Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like wow, you know I'm saying,
Speaker 1: shout out to the white before my in my in,
Speaker 1: my in, my accountant, Keith Towns. You understand here for
Speaker 1: thirty something years, you understand what I'm saying. I'm giving
Speaker 1: me the t straight and not fake. Right. Look, so
Speaker 1: look so then next to the next door to us,
Speaker 1: at New Fair Clothing, we had to check it was
Speaker 1: a check cash and center, right then next to that,
Speaker 1: you understand me, I forgot what was next to that,
Speaker 1: and I forgot to think it was. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a larndry, but I think
Speaker 1: it was like a little I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what that was. But right next to that was
Speaker 1: rich Arts Barbershot. Okay, then next to next, next next
Speaker 1: to rich Ards Barbershot, it was it was it was
Speaker 1: studio Tone Studio. It was sent to man, I wish
Speaker 1: I could stay. Huh. Pep said that a studio with Tone, Man,
Speaker 1: I wish I could stay. I got holl that matter
Speaker 1: because we got money to make. Come on, had them beats, man,
Speaker 1: he had them beats. So we go to the studio Tone,
Speaker 1: so student Tone. So I take my little my little
Speaker 1: bread I made at the clothing store, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put a little deposit. Damn right, I say, Tom check gag.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need like full hours. That's all. Back then,
Speaker 1: that's all I needed was full hours because I had
Speaker 1: some much gas. I had so much game to release
Speaker 1: because I was a young mustache, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: going there and knock out three or four songs, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's how end. You know, we just kept whipping
Speaker 1: the ass. We start beating their asks without the belt,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, And that's then
Speaker 1: then you start hearing forty and the click. You start
Speaker 1: hearing about us, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: how that all went in Here I am years later.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have fat burgers clubs all kind
Speaker 1: of when you stop all kinds of stuff like that. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm selling a dope beverages. You understand me. I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm into the I'm in forty five different tech companies.
Speaker 1: You understand me. I'm to give it a t straight
Speaker 1: in our faith. You understand me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, there's so many things means I can
Speaker 1: display to you, but I'm in the food and beverage.
Speaker 1: That's my main thing right now, Food and beverage. You
Speaker 1: feel me. So be on the lookout for the good
Speaker 1: with the Spoon book, you know what I'm saying, A
Speaker 1: cooking show, good with the Spoon products co packing. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm involved with the Loompia Company. I'm co owner of
Speaker 1: the Loompia Company. You can go to the town and
Speaker 1: find that because we're gonna be co packing that too.
Speaker 1: You'll find that and like your Walmarts and you're you know,
Speaker 1: understand me, your costcos, your safe Ways and you know
Speaker 1: your your local supermarkets. Man, you understand me. We global.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be global, not local. You understand me. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna spread that thing. Man. You know they ain't
Speaker 1: got me started. Man, I'm right now. It's watermelon. You
Speaker 1: should have never gotten started. Man, it's not good to
Speaker 1: get me started because I talk your year off. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm from the bell like to hear myself talk. Hello.
Speaker 1: I need to get some of that watermelon. I need
Speaker 1: to get some of that watermelons. So crazy outside of music, short,
Speaker 1: what kind of stuff are you into? Oh? Man? When
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I gotta like it's it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's just uh, the same thing with everybody else. Man,
Speaker 1: We're just it's just shipped on the table. We just
Speaker 1: do it. We do it. I can sit here and
Speaker 1: run down the list of what all is going on, man,
Speaker 1: but I'm taking at the top of the list is
Speaker 1: my Westmore. That's that's what we're working on every day.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there right now about to push up to Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm about to push over the snoop spot right now.
Speaker 1: We we finalized in the mix on them on the
Speaker 1: last few songs for the first wave, so it's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be like three four waves. But you know, the
Speaker 1: Westmore is at the top of the list. I can
Speaker 1: I can get a running down the soda pops and
Speaker 1: merch stuff and the and the and the weed we do.
Speaker 1: We just launched the whole weed line and and you
Speaker 1: know the the we're adding the pre Ruther. I mean,
Speaker 1: the ship goes forever like it's just a hustler, man.
Speaker 1: I I can't really I I don't really like uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't every day I wake up. Man,
Speaker 1: it's like I don't never sit, like for what the
Speaker 1: shade earl. Don't let the grass grow under your feet.
Speaker 1: You can the grounds growing to your feet? Man. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's that's that's that's my style right there. Just
Speaker 1: never look down and see that grass growing around you. Man.
Speaker 1: We keep it moving, keep it moving, keep keep it hustling, man,
Speaker 1: alright man. Other in other words, the grip, don't quit.
Speaker 1: M dig that. We appreciate you. But if you do
Speaker 1: want to tap into two short story dot Com. That's cool, man,
Speaker 1: you can you can get a lot of good ship.
Speaker 1: Then at your story. Man. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is it's a wonderful place to go. Get you, get
Speaker 1: you a bit buddy, shout out. Hey, we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna hit We're gonna we're gonna let y'all get going.
Speaker 1: In a second, we're gonna hit you with some quick hitters.
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind, answer Jack, take it.
Speaker 1: If you guys put together dream Team Tour. In addition
Speaker 1: to yourselves, name three artists a group past the present
Speaker 1: that would be with you that you bring along. Um,
Speaker 1: I say one of you say one short all right, Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say you said the group to. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say to click Okay, I'm gonna take Snoop Dogg to
Speaker 1: dog Pound. I'm gonna pull up. I'm gonna take my
Speaker 1: guys what I got right now. I'm gonna call I
Speaker 1: just the niggas to sell out, and I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: you forty. We're gonna get up out of here, keep pushing, man,
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna sell out everywhere we go. Easy money.
Speaker 1: I think we don't really need no I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to sound arrogant, but I think I mean, come on, man,
Speaker 1: you got you got four of your favorite rappers that
Speaker 1: can really pack. We can pack the house easily. A
Speaker 1: few times, we could do two shows at night. I
Speaker 1: really feel that way. You got Eve forty. You've got
Speaker 1: no particular order. We're gonna get order. We got fucking
Speaker 1: we got Snoopy Dog. I call it stupper dog. Track
Speaker 1: me up because when I was in that amsterdamn some
Speaker 1: some cats came up to me, some some Asian guys.
Speaker 1: They was like, snoopy dog, snoopy Dog. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not snoop Dog. What's What's what's up? What's the next?
Speaker 1: What's the next? One? Next question is who in the
Speaker 1: game right now? Young rapper? One young rapper each, y'all.
Speaker 1: You know we're checking four right now. One young rapper
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to see come up. Man is my
Speaker 1: little hometown home. He gap Dad Man. I recently worked
Speaker 1: with him gab Dad thousand and uh. And I like
Speaker 1: his work empic. I like his its momentum building and stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, he from the town. Man. What's open? Man?
Speaker 1: I wish your brother a lot of success, Man, because
Speaker 1: he's real talented, you know, and he's doing good. Ain't
Speaker 1: doing real good, so you know, shout out to the hometown.
Speaker 1: If you guys played three on three, excuse me, if
Speaker 1: you guys put together at three or three basketball against
Speaker 1: each other, who would be on your teams? But if
Speaker 1: y'all picked the three or three squads for as Rappers
Speaker 1: are like real basketball players, basketball players, and we were
Speaker 1: and we was the coach. Yep, you gotta pick three
Speaker 1: players each. Okay, I got mine, I got I got
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, I got killing out Warriors. Man, hold on, man,
Speaker 1: back up like a scrap. I got Steph Curry, ever Durrant,
Speaker 1: and we gotta have some defense too. We gotta have
Speaker 1: some defense. Well, they got defense too, and Clay Thompson.
Speaker 1: Fuck it, we're good. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to Warriors, I'm sorry. You know, I'm sorry. But that's
Speaker 1: what it is. It is. Come on, who's gonna argue
Speaker 1: with that? Who got a project? That? What you got
Speaker 1: shot with that? I just if you're gonna go get
Speaker 1: lights out and just everybody just shoot your life oute,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to just go get huh. I need
Speaker 1: like three players that like fight really good because we
Speaker 1: don't have to get out there and roughing boys. Ain't
Speaker 1: even thinking like offense, man, we're thinking like just just
Speaker 1: all fucking fouls and shady ship that shut down defense man.
Speaker 1: We got shutting boys down. Man. You know you know,
Speaker 1: you know it. I'm I'm gonna go. I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go get a h like I always uh, I always
Speaker 1: gotta roll with name Lily Man. That's my guy. Man.
Speaker 1: I love this game. Damn see, they gotta give me more.
Speaker 1: They gotta give me more more than just they just
Speaker 1: gave me three. I love this game. I'm biases. I'm
Speaker 1: a warrior, that's all. But I love Dann Man. That's
Speaker 1: that boy vicious in the vocal booth and on the
Speaker 1: and on the court. Hello, yes, sir short like that there,
Speaker 1: um um, I would say a D two man because
Speaker 1: he's uh down there. Your your team is stacking up
Speaker 1: pretty well. Yeah yeah. And I need like a like
Speaker 1: a bully man. I need like a like a um
Speaker 1: like a like a sharp sharp sharp shooter, like like
Speaker 1: like one of them boys don't like Milwaukee or something
Speaker 1: man like a Middleton and like somebody who knock knocked
Speaker 1: down shots and got like a little little little girl,
Speaker 1: you know, d go take them forty. You can't be
Speaker 1: just picking out a warrior all stars, man, Come on, man,
Speaker 1: we're just trying to make this interet alright, So look,
Speaker 1: who should we have on all the smoke rapper wise?
Speaker 1: It gotta be somebody I have access to. Gotta be
Speaker 1: somebody you have excess. I want to hear from Jigger.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear with jigger. Okay, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Hit him up short? You can be able to hit
Speaker 1: him up short. I don't have no jig none of that,
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna be able to help you with
Speaker 1: that part. I just say that would be great to see.
Speaker 1: I got number love for Jacob, I really do for
Speaker 1: Jay Z for I sincerely do absolutely hook us up short.
Speaker 1: But you got short man, Jake. I don't know who
Speaker 1: you call it. Get in touch with Jay Man, I
Speaker 1: don't know who you You probably get a Texas call
Speaker 1: in through Beyonce and yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna hear
Speaker 1: bunt up see if he can make it happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you go to te go to Texas round getting there?
Speaker 1: Quicker um man? Uh? Who who should you get like,
Speaker 1: for real, have y'all had killing Mike? It? No, uh,
Speaker 1: killing Mike. He got a lot of game and he
Speaker 1: got a lot of like, he got like a lot
Speaker 1: of right now you know, opinions and logic and ship.
Speaker 1: So that's who I would say, killing Mike. That's a
Speaker 1: really good call, hey man. But we appreciate you guys
Speaker 1: this time. Man, we lost track of time. I think
Speaker 1: we've been doing this for like two hours. But man, yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you all. Man. Best to luck with Mount Westmore.
Speaker 1: We can't wait to hear it. Be a part of it. Man,
Speaker 1: Thank you all. That's a rap special episode with Living
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