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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to a very special Legends edition of All the Smoke. Jack,

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Speaker 1: what's up with you? Man? I'm good Man, I'm happy today. Man.

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Speaker 1: This is this is some real big hey. We got

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Speaker 1: we got some real ship today. Jack. We got two

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Speaker 1: legends man been in the game over thirty five years

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Speaker 1: each and still pushing. Man. Welcome to the show. E

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Speaker 1: forty and Too Short. We appreciate you all, man, Man, legends.

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Speaker 1: Man appreciate you'all. What's up? What's up to on this platform? Man?

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Speaker 1: We appreciate we We heard they said, uh, we got

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Speaker 1: short and forty. That's good. I was like, huh, both

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Speaker 1: of them? Sto what like it? In yes, sir man, Man,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you all. Man. So I'm gonna get right

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Speaker 1: to it. Mount Westmore, what's that mean? Talk to us?

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Speaker 1: It's big? I see I hear Let him know Short,

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Speaker 1: explain that project? So Mount Westmore is it is uh

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Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg, ice Cube, forty and Too Short, and we

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Speaker 1: all came together to do a project. And it's not

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Speaker 1: it's it's not an album. It's it's just a lot,

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Speaker 1: a lot of lot of music that it's probably gonna

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Speaker 1: be probably like three projects when it's all setting done.

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Speaker 1: But the whole point of it is we we do

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Speaker 1: a lot of shows together, and every time we do

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Speaker 1: a show, the show sells out. And basically ice Cube

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Speaker 1: forty forty his manager ran it down to ice Cube forty,

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Speaker 1: ice Q ran it down to me. We all called Snoop.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's on board, and it's like instead of like having

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Speaker 1: some promoter book us to do a show call off

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Speaker 1: for agency managers and stuff, we we we just came

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Speaker 1: together vote Troyn and it's like, now we control the beach,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? We we we can we

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Speaker 1: control everything. And then and then instantly when we joined forces,

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Speaker 1: all these other doors start opening up, Like what no

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Speaker 1: matter what's going on in each one of our lives

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Speaker 1: business wise, now we just opened up a whole new

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Speaker 1: can of worms, and what can we do as a partnership.

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Speaker 1: So people have been saying like, you guys are a

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Speaker 1: supergroup and we're kind of like been like Nab were

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Speaker 1: just really just a business man. We just came together

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Speaker 1: and make a whole lot of bread together. So you know,

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Speaker 1: give me your spin on the earl. You said, you

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Speaker 1: know we you know, we're a little bit of everything.

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Speaker 1: We wear many hats, everybody play their position. You know.

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Speaker 1: We we are lllc's you understand me. We are and

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Speaker 1: you know sure don't like call him the supergroup, but

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Speaker 1: that's that's just the word. It is that we're super

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Speaker 1: we are supergroup. May you know we you got two

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Speaker 1: of the best you understand me, from northern California, which

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Speaker 1: is up top, and then you got two of the

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Speaker 1: best from Southern California, which is you know down south.

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Speaker 1: You know, Southern can for you. So you know that's

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Speaker 1: La La land. You got the Ya area, You got

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Speaker 1: a lot of land you dig. Yeah, yeah, man. So

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Speaker 1: you know we put it together like the weather. You

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Speaker 1: dig and we and Shure might say we got three

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Speaker 1: some three hours and we got we got four of

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Speaker 1: them things. Because every day we're turning in new tracks.

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Speaker 1: We ain't stopping, we ain't letting up, and it's just

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Speaker 1: it's just what we do anyway, you know, especially during

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Speaker 1: during the planned dimmic, we got a little more time

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Speaker 1: on our hand, you feel me. So we we got

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of planning we all are

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Speaker 1: doing we you know we we we um we're perfecting

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Speaker 1: our passing projects. You know, we got a lot going on,

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Speaker 1: and you know we ain't gonna let grass growing too

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Speaker 1: our feet. Man, We're gonna keep it moving hell on

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Speaker 1: as you should. During the klandemic, Jack, I know you

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Speaker 1: caught that. Do we have a we got a target

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Speaker 1: date for the drop or for the drop for the

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Speaker 1: first project. Just look out for like look out for

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Speaker 1: like some visuals. Man. You know we got you know,

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Speaker 1: snoop dog snoop Dogs a superstar, like a mega starter

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Speaker 1: man got was seventy million and something on Instagram or something.

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Speaker 1: But you know, uh ice Ki was a filmmaker and

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Speaker 1: he's real passionate about what the visuals of Mault Westmore

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Speaker 1: are gonna look like. So we're in good hands. May

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that, uh we got forty the

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Speaker 1: hustling in the group, you know what I mean? Like

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Speaker 1: like every phone call is another there's another like business venture.

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Speaker 1: Every time I pick up the phone. With these deals,

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Speaker 1: so we got so we just pitched Snooped this business project.

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Speaker 1: And his manager, white Boy Calves, like, Yo, we need

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Speaker 1: to piss this to the whole uh, the Westmore group.

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Speaker 1: So we got something waiting on deck for y'all too,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna bring it to you in about a

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Speaker 1: week or so. It's something heavy exactly. Yeah. I hope

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Speaker 1: we do link up, man because uh, you know so

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Speaker 1: um obviously a year to forget a lot of terrible

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Speaker 1: ship happened. What did you guys take away from you know,

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Speaker 1: with did was to some of the not just not

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Speaker 1: us because we you know us, A lot of us

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Speaker 1: are really really close to our families, you know, but

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Speaker 1: lot and they travel and they're really not home with

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Speaker 1: their family. I think what it did was brought families

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Speaker 1: don't care if you in together or the suburbs, wherever

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Speaker 1: their parents, mom, you know, the daughters close to their mom,

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Speaker 1: the sons closer to their dad. You know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of cats don't even know how to you know, take

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Speaker 1: some take take some nails and do the and and

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Speaker 1: take a bent nail and straighten it out and reuse

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Speaker 1: it again. You know, some people don't know how to

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Speaker 1: cut grass. They may they may have learned that in

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Speaker 1: the last nine ten months, you know, dealing with dealing

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Speaker 1: little young ladies, they might not have knew how to cook.

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Speaker 1: Now they there, you know, got Martha Stewart's status. Now

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Speaker 1: you ain't telling that, you know, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: you look at it like this too. Man. So you've

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Speaker 1: got guys like us who for years a lot of

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Speaker 1: you get all this time, and you know, on one end,

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Speaker 1: you're like, I do feel like there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: He was gonna be back up and running April. I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting around going, you know, it's like, May, we ain't

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Speaker 1: getting out this this pandemic. I'm like, bro, we gotta

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Speaker 1: get on the grind, you know what I'm saying. So basically,

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Speaker 1: when you lose all the distractions of what what life

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Speaker 1: it's always like a red carpet Evan, Now I'm one

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, listening party. It's just always

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Speaker 1: you got is time, and you're like, Okay, what am

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Speaker 1: if you're hustling, you just adapt. So I know there's

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Speaker 1: But I'm like, if you're hustling, you are hustler, go

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Speaker 1: for it. Just if you ain't, if you ain't out

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Speaker 1: that socializing, get on clubhouse and socialize, do something, get

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Speaker 1: it going, keep it going. Definitely was I there. You know,

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Speaker 1: Jack and I have been blessed from that kind of standpoint.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he lost his brother George, but we've been able

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Speaker 1: we really we kind of trying to strategize, like what

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Speaker 1: we're used to shooting shows in Santa Monica and in

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Speaker 1: this zoom grind and been bringing people content because, like

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Speaker 1: you said, Short, a lot of motherfucker's don't know what

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Speaker 1: you it is what you make it with this whole push.

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Speaker 1: You know, Jack was on the face of something this

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Speaker 1: past summer that not only touched every state in the

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Speaker 1: like what what went down? And then you hear about uh,

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Speaker 1: And we can go into detail what all that was,

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Speaker 1: but it was a very bad situation. And then you've

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Speaker 1: all these freedoms, but it keeps I keep smelling Jim Crow,

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Speaker 1: That just ain't somebody right after civil rights going, man,

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Speaker 1: see all the other incidents, and it's not just when

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Speaker 1: And when I see that man, I'm like, how much

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Speaker 1: we probably got man, we can't. We can't even count

424
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 1: how many songs we did together. We probably got I

425
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 1: know it's better than fifty. I don't know how many

426
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: it is. See, we did a double album together with

427
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: like fucking seventeen songs a piece on I mean seventeen

428
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: songs on each album that I think that's twenty eight songs. Songs,

429
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: songs and what was that called history mob music and

430
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: function music slapping, here's the here's your channel. But if

431
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: you if you add to them, how many most songs

432
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: we did Brest, it's probably like sixty seventy on know,

433
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: it's still counting song. Hey, that's like we ran a

434
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 1: whole NBA season together seventy eight two songs. Hey, look

435
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 1: look at all these songs we're doing. Look at all

436
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: these songs we're doing right now, You're still doing it still,

437
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: Come on, hey man, compare to uh, the Warrior teams

438
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 1: now compared to their Warrior team. Oh man, I'm gonna

439
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: tell you right now, when they was playing the street ball,

440
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the players off the court, off the

441
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: off the court, off the court, off the court. You know,

442
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: you know these two gentlemen were on the phone with

443
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: right now. You know they are little hordheaded. They're hardheaded,

444
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: super hardheaded, very hard hitted, and they all the way

445
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: with they live to fighting ship. They hard I mean,

446
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: shorty short we had the best time in the in

447
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: in the town man. When we was playing I'm talking

448
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: about it was like we won a championship already, Like

449
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 1: the city embraced us like like no other bro Like

450
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't care how many championships they wanted to in

451
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Nobody rocked out like we

452
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: rocked out when we was playing there and go to state.

453
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: Nobody I remember seeing that. I remember seeing Steph Curry.

454
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 1: He used to be like kind of he kind of quiet,

455
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: a little off to the side, looking like a little

456
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: looking like a little boy and hanging out with yall.

457
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: We were sneaky though. He gamed up. He wanted He's

458
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: a student of the game. He know how to fit

459
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: in wherever he goes to if he needed to. Yeah, exactly,

460
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 1: like eleventh grader man, that's real. Hey. But I got

461
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: a chance to really see it though, because the other

462
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: player during the We Believe times and then go back

463
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: in seventeen when they won the Ring and there was

464
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: still so much the players wanted to know what our

465
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: team was like. The media still talked about our team,

466
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: the fans still talked about the team like that team

467
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: was just different. Like we you could reach out and

468
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: touch us. We would be in in in the hood

469
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: in Oakland, we would be in in Fillmore across the bridge,

470
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: like we would really be in the spots on the corner.

471
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: That was our name, Matting, that was our name. That

472
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 1: was our name. You know that they had what they

473
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: called step of them. The the film we was the

474
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: film O five. Yeah, Yeah, it was the film O five. Yeah,

475
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: there was I think there was the Hamptons five. We

476
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: was the film O five. It was just a lot

477
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: of love from just what we did in that small

478
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: amount of time. You know, if you think about it,

479
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: we did that in three months. When y'all knocked off Dallas, y'all,

480
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: that was that was the championship for us. That was

481
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: the chip. Everybody was like, man, hey, boys, really out

482
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: there bowling? You know it was I took it like

483
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: y'all freestyle and like y'all wasn't It was no particular playing.

484
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: It was no matter. There wasn't nothing playing out. This

485
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: was like just getting ball, you know, no matter what,

486
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: no matter what year, whatever happened after that, no matter

487
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: what chip, how many chips, how many trips to the chip,

488
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: they can still more than we believe shirts still whatever.

489
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: We uh, we're in the process of getting getting the

490
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: we believe dot going. So we definitely gonna need you

491
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: all to sun with that shot soundtrack soundtrack, y'all sound

492
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: on the child check. We gotta have Mr Fab. You

493
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: gotta have Mr Fab on the sidetrack. Can't do can't

494
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: do no we believe documentary have a sound check without

495
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: Mr Fab Show three, that ship would be killer Killer

496
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: bringing man man Man I got picked with him, but

497
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: he he he don't say he's been at the Warriors

498
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: game for many years. I'll just give him a hard time,

499
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, That's just what I gotta do. And they'd

500
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: be araguing over who, like, Okay, they got the name, uh,

501
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: Forty say I'm front row forty fab say that that

502
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: long before, and forty came with that that he was

503
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: already calling himself front row Fabby and then forty like

504
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: Nabro made So they got a real thing going on.

505
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: Who was front first? Like it ain't even like they like,

506
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: it's like serious, Yeah, yeah, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta,

507
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: I gotta say some love took him bad mombs man,

508
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: his mom's man. She stated every she was at every game.

509
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: I said, I've seen her before every game. She waited

510
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: to after every game to speak to me. Man, you

511
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I got resting pa, a lot

512
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: of love to fat to Mr Fab's mom. And I

513
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: missed him, manly man at that new stadium And ain't

514
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 1: it ain't the roorical man, And ain't say I went

515
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: in there and it ain't it's missing that person that

516
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: that that that that Oracle arena was intimidating. Man. It was.

517
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: It was always fun. It was fun. It's business. It's business.

518
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: But when when they got on that chip down, when

519
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: the chip, when the chips came in, that crowd turned

520
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: into it was it was like a problem, man for

521
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: the business. It was a problem. They lost it. So

522
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: we had like the real die harder because at to

523
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: keep it real that that the tickets were cheaper, like

524
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: you can get into the game and bring your family

525
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: back when we were running in oh six or seven

526
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: and oh eight. You know, now it turned into a

527
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: business where they had the highest courtside price in the

528
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: league at one point, and then they go over to

529
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: San Francisco and that's straight corporate. That's all that ship

530
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: was for, you know what I mean. So the fans

531
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: over here kind of got left out, which was sucked

532
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: up because the Bay Area fans are so loyal whether

533
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: the team is good bad in between, they're gonna ride

534
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: for you regardless to the end. And and the fact

535
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: that we were able to bring playoff basketball back um

536
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: to to to your fan base was just crazy. You know,

537
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: to this day we have so I mean I just

538
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: got rid of my house up there in March, but

539
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: I would be in the grocery store and that's all

540
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: they wouldn't talk about the current team. It was we

541
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 1: just loved your team, and this, this and that, and

542
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: it was. It's really crazy to see what kind of

543
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: imprint we made on the on the town. Yeah man,

544
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: legendary friend Forshall. Yeah. So for the people outside of

545
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: the Bay, they kind of feel like or I mean,

546
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: they're right, but music the Bay got put on the

547
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: map when y'all really hit. Were there anyone that you

548
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: guys that you guys looked up to growing up in

549
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: the game or was it just the hustle and rapping

550
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: just came. Oh no, there's plenty of people we looked

551
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: up to. I know, you know me growing up, I

552
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 1: looked up to Russell Simmons. I looked up to, Um,

553
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: you understand me, Rick Rubin, Um, you know Jay Prance,

554
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying. Loose Skywalker. You know these

555
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: were these were CEOs way before before me. You know

556
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um, but mine was like really really homegrown.

557
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: And I mean by that he is like I didn't

558
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: have distribution like like that. I had a small one. Stop.

559
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. But anyway to make a

560
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: long story, sure, what I'm saying is these dudes really

561
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: planted their feet in hip hop man and showed up

562
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: and showed out and was big. Like I'm really influenced

563
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: by them. You know what I'm saying. There's others tools

564
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: such as, you know, we gotta first of all, we

565
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: gotta give it up the Cool Hurt because you know

566
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: he's credited for being the one to create rap. You

567
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We gotta we gotta love people

568
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: like cool heard, we gotta we gotta love people like

569
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: you unerstand me Master flashing the Furious five million miles

570
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: and Millie Mills spending the game. Man, I love the

571
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: way he spent that game. You know he's speaking real

572
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: life way back the end. And when you can relate

573
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: to it, you know what I'm saying, they don't need

574
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: to hate to it. A lot of people when they

575
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: can't relate to something, they just actually just hate it.

576
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: Like just because you can't relate, man, that don't mean

577
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: it's fake. You know what I'm saying. That's you. You

578
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: you in the way yourself. You ain't gamed up, you game, goofy. Hello,

579
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: you know we got we got that game. School marching

580
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: band background during goofy game. Sittime, I said, we got

581
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: that high school marching band background. Man, that that that

582
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: rhythm that you know at a at an age when

583
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: hip hop first came into to our lives. That that

584
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: love for the music and being in band class kind

585
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: of trans send it over the hip hop and just

586
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: those rhythms and the beats and it and it kind

587
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: of like, you know, Forty said he was a drummer

588
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: in the marching band. But if you listen to Forty rap,

589
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: the nigga kind of rapped like a snare drum, you know,

590
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: like to really be like like like spitting fire. So

591
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: it's all related. And I think, um, I think um

592
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: the early days of hip hop, like it was just

593
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: fun and ship. But then when Russell Simmons uh start pushing,

594
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: because you know, Russell was there, he was there for

595
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: all that young ship man m Curtis Blow and all

596
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: that ship he was around. But when he really started

597
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: pushing that run DMC agenda. And then his public enemy

598
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: is Eric being rock him. You know, the deaf jam

599
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: ships started creating superstars, the ll L k J and

600
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, and nigga on the West Coast is looking

601
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: like naked we want to do this ship too, you

602
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we don't got nobody in

603
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: hip hop that's in the Bay or on the West coast.

604
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: You know. Dr Dre and then was down there doing

605
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: world class wrecking crew Iced Tea popped up on the

606
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: scene early. It was, um, you know the l A

607
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: dream team. It was my is doing the ship. But

608
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: to see that, to see it all turn into big

609
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: business of business, but it motivated us because we're sitting

610
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 1: here rubbing shoulders with rich as drug dealers and they

611
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: gets right around and busses and all kind of sucking ship.

612
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: We're like, man, I want to have I'm trying to

613
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: get in the game. So we we literally I'll tell

614
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: you on my in man, I literally was looking at

615
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: the music like Nigga, these tapes and these boxes is

616
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: like kilos, nig I'm flipping this ship. I'm gonna stack

617
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: the ship, stack the profit re up. You know what

618
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's I was. I was, That's what I

619
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: was on the thing. What I know, this is what

620
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: I know. You know I try to tell I'm saying,

621
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: get that legal money, that legal money, not the illegal

622
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: the legal money. That's right, that that legal money because

623
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: I tell them, you know, um, even even in the streets,

624
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: if you if you're getting that illegal money, don't try

625
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: to turn that ship into a permanent occupation. That's stupid.

626
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying. The ship really is

627
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: designed because you know what I'm saying, Like you know,

628
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: even your corporate world, you don't know what the funk

629
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: they did to get where they at. You feel what

630
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But they was in and out like the burger,

631
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: You feel me. You know they they used whatever they

632
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: was doing and whether it was hard, whether it was

633
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: illegal or or legal, whatever they was doing, they used

634
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: that as a stepping stone to be one hundred percent legal,

635
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you can't make that

636
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: a permanent occupation like motherfucker's want to make that a

637
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: permanent occupation. And you know that three years of grinding

638
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: and getting them getting your money on it in five

639
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: years of grinding ain't worth thirty years in the pen.

640
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: It just don't add up, you know what I'm saying.

641
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: So talked to Yeah it's a setup. So we was

642
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: always talked to. You still me. You know what I'm saying.

643
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: You had a frame of mind be a businessman, bro

644
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: be a business because let me tell you something. First

645
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: of all, this rap game, first of all, you get,

646
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: it's way more money in it. You understand me. It's

647
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: more rap. It's it's way more money in the rap

648
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: game than it is in the dope game, okay, by question,

649
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: by far, And it's way more and it's way more

650
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: fame than it is in the dope game. Right. That's

651
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: if you seek seeking for fame. It's nice to have

652
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: a little bit, but that ain't my My My goal

653
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: was the money. I want to bread. You feel me?

654
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, And it's way and

655
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: and you're living a you're living illegal you're living illegal

656
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: not illegal illegal life. You understand what I'm saying. You

657
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: know you ain't gotta you know, you ain't gotta you know,

658
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: have you know, look around like you know what I'm saying.

659
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: Watch you do, but you but you gotta be careful

660
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: with it because rappers, some of these rappers they talk

661
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: themselves into all kind of beef and ship like that's unnecessary. Man,

662
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: Get your money, you feel what I'm saying. Get your money. Man,

663
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: These mother fucking headphones tripping. But anyway, get your gooda.

664
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: That's where it's that. You know, turn turn, take that

665
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: little goody you having, whatever good are you having? First

666
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: of all, the main thing is get you a piece

667
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: of the earth. Get you out and get some property.

668
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't give a just

669
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: a piece of land, a small piece of land somewhere

670
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: in the midwest to south. You know what I'm saying.

671
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: It could be a little lot, anything, Just get just

672
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 1: start off with that first. You understand what I'm saying,

673
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: and you know, take it from there. Man, so much,

674
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: so many, so many things. You know, it's always great

675
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: to make money doing something that you love. You know

676
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: when you when you're making money doing something that you love,

677
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: and you can't be lazy. You can't be a couspertator hustler. Man.

678
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You gotta you gotta go

679
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: to be it late and wake up early. You know

680
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's me. I'll wake I go to

681
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: be it late and wake up early. Sometimes I sleep

682
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: with both eyes open. You get in when you know,

683
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you get out what you put you you

684
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: get out what you put into it. So it's anything,

685
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: where did it go from or did it was it?

686
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Was it always? When did it go from just I'm

687
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: a Rapperts have really understanding that you're an actual business?

688
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: Was it from the jump or did it take a

689
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: few years. I'll tell you, I guess till I'm gonna

690
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: let you talk. I just feel like, really, just it's

691
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: just it's a forced play, man, It's it's a forced play.

692
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: You're a youngster and you're doing something you love, hip hop,

693
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: You're making money, and then all of a sudden things

694
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: really happened and you look, you're looking at the bank account,

695
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: you're looking at the pockets, and you've got a lot

696
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: of money, and you've got a lot of people depending

697
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: on you, and you got folks working for you. You're

698
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: sitting and sign a contract. It shicking serious, and you

699
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you you you either step

700
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: up to the play or you don't. And it's like

701
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: I really, I really feel like um people who succeed

702
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: you're not necessarily succeeding because of just your talented or

703
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: just because you have the opportunity you got it. It's

704
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: so many elements to being the one that gets through,

705
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's it's it's um It's

706
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: just something. You know, you look back at a lot

707
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: of it, A lot of it is luck to be

708
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you put that hard working, but it's

709
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: love to be able to maneuver through it, because most

710
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: mothercker's can't. But what I do, Man, you just gotta

711
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: keep going for it. Br You gotta have luck. You

712
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: gotta have luck, and you gotta have longevity. You gotta

713
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: to short always say. He always said this, man, don't

714
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: stop wacking like and I always say, if you keep

715
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: throwing ship at the wall, eventually it's gonna stick. You

716
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So take for instance this, you know,

717
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: during the time when Pop passed away, r P tupop

718
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: he passed away, it seemed like the carpet was taking

719
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: under the West coast leg just like tooking it from

720
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: under our feet, and everything sits shifted to the South,

721
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: even though we've been rocking with the South, and the

722
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: South been do what they think, But I'm talking about

723
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: they totally did they think, you know, So we had

724
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: to hold on like a hub cap and the fast

725
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: ain't to us back our turn. That's what we did.

726
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: You know, you pay attention to the ball. You gotta

727
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: watch the ball. You don't know if the game is

728
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: gonna throw you a curve, a knuckleball, a fast ball,

729
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: whatever the case they're gonna throw. You just gotta be

730
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: ready to that thing. And when you swing, swing for

731
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: the fence. Basics is cool, But you want to hit

732
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: that home run. Man, you want that platinum. You want

733
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: that platinum, that platinum like getting the motherfucker championship, you know,

734
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: ring or whatever. You know what I'm saying. So you know,

735
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: like I say, man, I'm telling you right now, coming

736
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: from the shoots, coming from the shoebox to to to

737
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: a safe deposit box is a really interesting situation. You know,

738
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: my uncle, say Charles, taught me how to actually go

739
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: get a bank account. St Charles is credited, credited for

740
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: being you may have heard Master P and many others

741
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: talked highly about him because that's my uncle, that's my

742
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: mama's brother. You know what I'm saying. He's legendary. I mean,

743
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a lot of people, a lot of

744
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: your favorite rappers if it wasn't for him, because you

745
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: know he is he he he laced me, He laced me,

746
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: and the click for these he legit d shot sugar

747
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: T sick with the records. You understand me. A wall

748
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: rackets y'all to the click. You know what I'm saying.

749
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: He laced us. Then Master p came along. He laid

750
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: Master Pete, you understand me. So just imagine so many

751
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: people that JT the bigger figure, and so many others

752
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: that came through because develod Records was doing their thing

753
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: no matter what. Everybody was doing their thing bro out

754
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: here in the bay, and my uncle had a lot

755
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: to do with it along with us, because we all

756
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: learned together. But I'm just saying, you know, he taught

757
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: me how to be a man as well, not just

758
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: like I said, he taught me how to go get

759
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: a bank account. Boy when I was you know, when

760
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: I was a youngster, always looked up to him. We

761
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: single handedly invented the independent music hip, the independent hip

762
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: hop seen in the bay. It either comes from Efty

763
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: and his his chain of you know, you know, to

764
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: trinkle down, or come from too short and well trinkled

765
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: out from me. Like we gave everybody the game. You

766
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: cannot trace it back. It's impossible to trace it back

767
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: any further than us. Because he just told you where

768
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: he got it from. I'll tell you who I got

769
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: it from. It didn't come from anywhere else in hip hop.

770
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: We invented the ship and they talked about the Bay

771
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: Independent the Bay. You know everybody they do them that

772
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: ship come from us, ain't know. And the best part

773
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: about what I like bragging about me and forty is

774
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: that we ain't just some old last niggas that did

775
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: this ship. And we're on the sidelines, tell the story,

776
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: sitting on the porch. N we're in the game, talking

777
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: about stop being in this motherfucking game. Nig that's how weird,

778
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: that's how we're doing it. Let let me mask. Let's

779
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Who uh then this is one

780
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: of my favorite rappers from the Bay who umbrella mcmahl

781
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: fall under even all under um Young Black Brother records

782
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: kinda read uh you know them boys right there and

783
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, one of the people he really

784
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: look up to is mc dre and a lot of

785
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: people do too as well. Mac dre did this thing

786
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: or that. He's definitely legendary. Gone too soon. Mcmah is

787
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: my cousin here, mcmahll mcmas my couse. He from the

788
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: Crest Side. I'm from the hill side, you know. But

789
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: we've worked together and still we want of my man. Yeah,

790
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 1: we like you know, mcmahl really put it. Damn. People

791
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: don't know how really how big mcmahl really you understand

792
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: me put it. He did his staying in hip hop

793
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: like way beyond the Bay Area, maybe further. To be

794
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: honest with you. People don't want to hear this. And

795
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: I always tell him he could. He he'd be like, nah, cousin,

796
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, dude, you was. You was well known

797
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: way further than what people think. Bro, like across the

798
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: across the you know, like y'all know about him. You

799
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: know what that they know about mcmahl and the Midwest,

800
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: the South all that for many moons, you know, So

801
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: shout to mcmahl. Man. You know what I'm saying. Your

802
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: brothers gotta get it together, young brothers, gotta get it

803
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: toge and to get right song and you need to

804
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: get right come on, man, it's it's it's real. It's

805
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: just it's just being honest. It's real talk. You know

806
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What it was you got me wide open,

807
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, man, he did, mand went crazy like he did.

808
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 1: You know, what's what's been the secret to the longevity.

809
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: You know, we asked what we had an opportunity interview

810
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: snooped last season y'all too. Y'all been in the game

811
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: for over thirty five years, and like you said, just

812
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: you just said, you're not on the sidelines right now.

813
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: You're still in it. How what how the funk y'all

814
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: been doing that? Man, you gotta be uh A politician.

815
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: You gotta be a ceo. You gotta be a h

816
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: a therapist. You gotta know how to like really like,

817
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, take the pictures, kiss the babies, handle to

818
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: handle the dispute. You gotta make sure different people eat

819
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: that need to be eating at times. You gotta like

820
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: it's a lot of stuff. You gotta keep the family together.

821
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: You gotta do a lot of things. You gotta know

822
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: how to get this producer with that person that do

823
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 1: hooks with, that dude that gott a verse. You gotta

824
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta all the time to be running.

825
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: You know, the coach, the quarterback, planes, you calling plays

826
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: and basically it's just a constant, constant, constant machine of grinding, grinding, grinding, grinding,

827
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: and staying relevant with who's hot and we like really

828
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: like never tapped out of our area. I hadn't moved

829
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: all over the country, but I ain't never left that

830
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: that Oakland, that Bay area. I ain't never letting that

831
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: go on. The just the foundation of my music. So

832
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: we keep it real Bay, we keep it baying. And

833
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: I think just that longevity is just having a good

834
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: ear to music and then being able to do all

835
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: those things that other people can't do. Man, other people

836
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: can't get on the phone and squash them ship niggas

837
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: can't get on the phone and make two phone calls

838
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: and make YouTube niggas the money. I don't even get

839
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: none of the money. I just make a phone call.

840
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: So y'all just get some money real quick. That's the

841
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: kind of ship we do. And that's kind of ship

842
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: when you put it out there, but that ship come

843
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: back and we I know, forty like that. I'm like

844
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: that fabrics like that. A lot of niggas is like that.

845
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: You put it out there and you just don't understand

846
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: that giving, giving, giving is really receiving come back. I

847
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 1: got the line. I got a line. I always say short,

848
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: the benefits are being real, so beneficial, I like, straight up,

849
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: straight up, don't don't. The reason I'm on this show

850
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: and only reason I've been blessed to have us because

851
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: I got a solid brother that I always stayed down with,

852
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: Matt and Matt Matt had to connect and made it happen. Man,

853
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: So the benefits have been real. I'm I'm a I'm

854
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: a I'm a testament of that. Man. It's it's beneficial. Bro,

855
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: I wanna h forty. I know you had a really

856
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: good relationship with him. He's one of my favorite people

857
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: all time. Talk to us about your time with Park

858
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: and what he meant to you. Man, Pop Man, good times.

859
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: You know, every time we hook up, it's like like

860
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: little kids, like you know you grew up, you know

861
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: how you you see a friend, one of your best

862
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: friends you ain't seen the hell of years. It's just

863
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: like that. And we can see each other a week later.

864
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: We just like you know, big hugs, big you know

865
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Just like this is my guy, Like

866
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: we always gonna have a great time together. Like that's

867
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: just time. We just it was the game designed us,

868
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: like God put good people together, you know what I'm saying.

869
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: And so that's how that's how it was with Pop.

870
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: We would always you could we we uphold our baitness

871
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: like two bait niggers get together, you know, you know

872
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: you could always tell a bait movements like yeah, man,

873
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: you know the way we talk in the whole, like

874
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: it's different, we different, I promise you. You know what

875
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying that. So that's how Pop was. You know.

876
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: Pop was definitely you know they can say, oh, well,

877
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: pockets from the East coast, this man, that man, his

878
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: heart was the Bay Area. I don't hear with nobody

879
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: said Maria, right, it was Marian. It was Marian. But

880
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: his all his homies was rich A lot of his

881
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: homies was Richmond. The rowdy are they don't play that,

882
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: they don't play it. They don't play in Richmond. You

883
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. All his homies was from there.

884
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: You know a lot of them. You know. So it's like,

885
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, basically man, Pop. You know, it was always

886
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: good energy, um, a lot of work ethic. He would

887
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 1: always go in there here and knock out hell of songs.

888
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: That's why I love him, just just going there and

889
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: knock out hell of versus. But Pop was a whole

890
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: another animal boy. When he got into the studio, he

891
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: finishing the song. He's doing three verses and it's gonna

892
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: all makes sense. It's gonna all be great content. It's

893
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: gonna be great subject matters and the spit gonna be

894
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: gained up. You know what I'm saying. It's gonna be real.

895
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: It's gonna touch, it's gonna touch your heart. He's gonna

896
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: go in there and make three songs, you know, within

897
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: within an hour. Heally, he danged, they'll leave out of

898
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: They're making nine songs a day and fully complete, like

899
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: no going back to touch nothing up for nothing. You

900
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You gotta remember it wasn't pro

901
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: tools like that back then. It had just again, right

902
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: right after you know what I'm saying, Right after we

903
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: made dustin It go ahead, Hawk was writing wraps the

904
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: pen and paper as fast as you could write, just right,

905
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: as fast as you could write. He's just doing that

906
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: and he's right, and he like then when he goes

907
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: there and wrap, You're like, you didn't just write that

908
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: ship that fast and that I don't know how he

909
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: was doing it, like in front of my face several times,

910
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: and I was amazed, and I'm like, he like when

911
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: we did when we did um we Ain't hard to find.

912
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: That's on all eyes on Me Double Diamond. Yeah, that's

913
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: a diamond album, you know what I'm saying. With Diamond,

914
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: you know. And when we did that, we was at

915
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: Cannam Studio. So he had Rick Rock in there with

916
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: c bow Um doing trading war stories. Yeah, he had

917
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: be Mike Moseley, He had me Mike Moseley, d shot

918
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: be Legit and Richie rich and they're knocking out We

919
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: Ain't hard to find. You know what I'm saying. That was.

920
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: That's a classic. Oh that's a class. So he coming,

921
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: he coming, he coming in there, checking on everybody going.

922
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, Candam had fol studios up in

923
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: that hole. You know what I'm saying. There was nothing

924
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: but studios in there, and that's what most of you're losing,

925
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: every inch of it properly coming there. He go to

926
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: one studio to another one and like what y'all looking like?

927
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: What y'all look at like? What you'all looking like? He

928
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: already late not to mention how wild that environment was

929
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: in the studio. What that was. That was if you

930
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: go in that buility and once you walked past the

931
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: reception area, you liked all his bag niggers with him.

932
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: Oh man, he was in heaven. He had all his

933
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: big niggas with him. He had all this It might

934
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: be it might be thirty bloods over there, then the

935
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: whole Snoop Dogg and my fifty crips go that way,

936
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: and then this big gass niggas walked around looking like

937
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: they just got out the pin yesterday. Yeah, that's real.

938
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: But this but this day on short, this day right here,

939
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: it was all Bay Area, you understand me, It was

940
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: all bad. He was up in that motherfucker like really

941
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: really family reunion ship, like putting together something that we

942
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: never knew would be so monumental, a double album All

943
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: Livees on Me. We was on there. You know, you

944
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: had fort on the album like you had I think

945
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: Drew Dons on that thing like a whole. But he

946
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: put the whole bay on man. Man literally put on

947
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: for his city where he put on for the soil,

948
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: you feel what I'm saying. And it was it was amazing,

949
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: man um. You know, I was just glad to be

950
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: part of that, you know. And in the meantime and

951
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: in between times, you know, he he was on my record,

952
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, he should. We had just did a million

953
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: dollars spot Dustin and disgusted, like, you understand me. These songs,

954
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: these songs are legendary songs, and I just wish if

955
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: he was with here like he had. I was telling

956
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: I was telling out Westmore the other day. I said,

957
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, Pod had hit me one day and he

958
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: was like, yo, forty he say. He say, I say,

959
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: what's up, folks? He said, Now I'm meant to tell

960
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: you manks. So look I'm doing this thing. We're gonna

961
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: call like I'm doing. You know, they got playing in Hollywood.

962
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: I say, I say, Jim, he said, well, I'm trying

963
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: to put together this ship. You might want to invest

964
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: in this. I want to call it a Gainst the

965
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: cafe Gangster cafe. But we had all the gangster niggers

966
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: on them, on the on the on the on the

967
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: on the on the walls and whatnot like and what

968
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: you meant by that was like old school mob like

969
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, like Al capom On and Lucky Luciano and

970
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the Big Tuna and all

971
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: of them. You feel what I'm saying. So I was like, hey, well,

972
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: let me know what's happening because you know, I was

973
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: playing with a few dollars. You know what I'm saying.

974
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: I was a youngster. You know what I'm saying this,

975
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: This the nineties. You know what I'm saying this, You know,

976
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean my twenties. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm with it.

977
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: You feel me so, but it didn't fold. He also

978
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: told me he was putting together album um with a

979
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: whole bunch of old schoolers. You know what I'm saying.

980
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: I was part of when I was one of them.

981
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He had nice and smooth

982
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: both of them boys Rapp Their voices some of the

983
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: most unique voices of all time. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah,

984
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: you feel with him? Yeah, you know I know that, man,

985
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: You know, I know that may come on. Man. You know,

986
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: he had a whole bunch of old gs that he

987
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: wanted on the album. And and then you know, you know,

988
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: later on, dude, my folks was gone. Man. I had

989
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: seen him at the Rappers Ball video Me and Short

990
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: he was there kicking it with us and ship like that.

991
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: And you know, a few months, a couple of months later,

992
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: he was gone. He was gone. Man, and uh they

993
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: got shot in Las Vegas. And you know, mind you

994
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: when were I'm normally I'm not really like you know,

995
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: own like walking into the ring like him or Sugar

996
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: memberies doing. But I'll be out there. I'll be out

997
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: there in Vegas and when we connect, we connect like

998
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm always. I was always in Vegas. I went to

999
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: all the fights. You know what I'm saying. I was

1000
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I'll fun with it. You

1001
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: know what. I was up a young tycoon, you know

1002
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was with a hall of fights,

1003
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: the Wold who wash and I just didn't. I was

1004
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: at home on this day and they told me he

1005
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: had h he had got shots. So I'm like, you know,

1006
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna live me. You're a tough dude, man,

1007
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: Because that's like I was there. And then I went

1008
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: to the motherfucker fight. I went to that fight that

1009
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: was with the people from fucking London. I think there

1010
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: was Sheldon whoever, the Typson Fund. Not that they gotten

1011
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: like it. Not a minute of some ship. Yeah, I've

1012
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: seen I've seen fucking Pop that night. I've seen him

1013
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: after the fucking fight. After all this ship happened and

1014
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: seen him. You're supposed to go to six six too

1015
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: and just turn up and ship. You know those Sugar's

1016
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: club nigga has never made it to the club. Bullshit happened, Man, Man, Man,

1017
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: Man Short. You're one of the very few who got

1018
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: the opportunity to do a song with Pop, Big and J.

1019
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: What do you attribute your versatility to and what were

1020
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: those experiences like? Well, you know, man, I mean, I'm

1021
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm the big homie, and a lot of scenarios in

1022
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: these when you think all that so and so on

1023
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: that song. So but I'm the big homie and the

1024
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: ship kind of mean some when uh, motherfucker's is looking

1025
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: at the track record and they're going, Dennis Nigga's short guy,

1026
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: like so many motherfucking platinum and gold albums, and I

1027
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: did it like before that. They came along so Big

1028
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: getting in the game, Jay getting in the game. I'm

1029
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm platting and platting and platting and platting and platinum

1030
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: they like looking like, you know, niggas is coming up,

1031
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: but they're like, and I want to get this too,

1032
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: Short Nigga on some ship and yeah, you know, nim

1033
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: niggas was getting at me like they're like, bro, you're

1034
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: spitting that game. We funk with you. And it was

1035
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: it was really on that vibe that I had moved

1036
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: to Atlanta and I was going to New York a lot,

1037
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: and then the nigga like like tied in and like

1038
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: puffing Big and and Jay and and Dame and just

1039
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: you know, just nigga was just tied into a bunch

1040
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: of motherfucker's that was, you know, hot on the East Coast.

1041
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: Fat Joe's working a lot of niggas out there, so

1042
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: Eric Sherman and Red Man and Keith Murray, I was.

1043
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: I was literally tretched out there running with the niggas

1044
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: and making songs and ships. So it just it just

1045
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: was you know, living like the way you want to

1046
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: live in man. You get you played for a certain city, man,

1047
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: you might you might not vibe out in that town.

1048
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: Within another city, you might become family like in the Bay,

1049
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: you know. So I went to Atlanta and had a

1050
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: whole old world out there. I got the whole thing

1051
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: going on in New Orleans from from the time I

1052
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: was a little boy in my family and stuff, and

1053
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, got a Vegas lifestyle. You know what I'm saying,

1054
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: so I'm the guy who took who took that that

1055
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: township and took it to the world. You know, both

1056
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: of your both of your songs. The song you got

1057
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: with Big and a song you got with Whole Man,

1058
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: that's classics. I'm talking about some of the biggest songs.

1059
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: Some of the biggest songs that come out come come

1060
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: from both of them. Man, you want both of them.

1061
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: And you know it was it was in the moment.

1062
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: You don't really think about timeless, You don't really think

1063
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: about the magnitude of it. You just I mean literally, man,

1064
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: you in there when you're doing collapse, even with a

1065
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: nigga like Folty Scarface. Uh, I mean, it's a lot

1066
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: of niggas I got down with, like you in there,

1067
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: you in the studio and these niggas, uh, you know,

1068
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: nigga might nicka might lay his first first and then

1069
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: you stuck in the studio Like Big did that to me. Man,

1070
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: he laid his verse first. And now you're sitting in

1071
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: the room, in his room full of people, they drink

1072
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: then laughing, smoking air and there looking like what you're

1073
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: about to do? Ship the moment, I had a whole

1074
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: bunch of bitches in my lifetime, you know what I'm saying.

1075
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: That's the moment though, Man like forty put pressure on

1076
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: you in the studio. Guys like that, they do that

1077
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 1: to you. Man, what's it like now? Because it used

1078
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: to be y'all would all be in one area, like

1079
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: you said, kicking, enjoy it and make great music. Now

1080
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: people are just sitting I mean, outside the pandemic. But

1081
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: it kind of seems like that's less and less. It

1082
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: still happens, but not as much now. They just sending

1083
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: music and you hop on each other. Explain that energy

1084
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: because we kind of feel the same way with our show.

1085
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: Although we love having y'all here, before the show started,

1086
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: we already said this ship would be a whole another

1087
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: level we was in person because you get that energy.

1088
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: What's that studio energy like compared to just having to hey,

1089
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: jump on this they sent it. It's much much better

1090
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: when you're together, you know, of course you know that.

1091
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: And but nowadays with the technology like we are doing

1092
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: zoom and all this stuff like that now that I mean,

1093
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: it was it was a time when it wasn't none

1094
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: of that. It was a time we wasn't able to

1095
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: look at each other, you know, like you know, we

1096
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: never thought what was at the Jesson's. We never thought

1097
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: that we would really be looking just you know, hit

1098
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: a button and we really you know, if one person

1099
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: could be in uh, you know, Europe and another person

1100
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: could be in in the Bay Area and and face

1101
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: time and with quality and talking to each other. Yeah,

1102
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: start track. It really happened. So this makes it easier

1103
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: for us, you know, with Zoom and many other um,

1104
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, apps and whatever you want to call it,

1105
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: um you know, because we can get in the studio

1106
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: right now and we can just all put it on

1107
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: FaceTime or you know what I'm saying me uh Skype

1108
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: or whatever you wanna call it, because Skype still around.

1109
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, because I did it the

1110
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: other day and that should work. It was it was

1111
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: a company that wanted me because you know, I'll be

1112
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: I'm in the tech world and ship too. So they

1113
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: was like, now I'm gonna do Skype on this one.

1114
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: And that's they didn't step their shipped up too, you

1115
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: feel me? So they ain't it have been money, you know,

1116
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: but they yeah, so no, this is it's just great

1117
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: because we could be like you know, the producer will

1118
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: be right there, Okay, Man, just going to add some

1119
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: symbols to that right there. Just add a little some

1120
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: symbols and put more sinister sounds in there. Put some

1121
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: something like man with technology. Man, it's technology. So you're

1122
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: gonna do everything. If I can't get in the studio

1123
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: with fody, We're still making a song, man, know what

1124
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You're still gonna make the song. So it's

1125
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: like when everything going back to the where it was.

1126
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: Even before it was like this, we was doing this stuff.

1127
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: We wasn't doing all these zooms. But if I had

1128
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: known the Zoom game, I would have been telling so

1129
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: many niggas. I had meetings with niggas it zoom me

1130
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: niggas like I would have been on that. So so

1131
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: I was saying, when we go back to the way

1132
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: it was, we're gonna utilize all this like to the

1133
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: funnest Like, bro, if I can't pull up, I'm gonna

1134
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: pull up like this, man, we're gonna meet on the

1135
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: screen and we're gonna send a song email. We're gonna

1136
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: do this. We're gonna keep grinding. So I like this

1137
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: ship man, I was I thought we would fly back

1138
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: in the day when we had little studios on the

1139
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: tour bus and ship. I thought that was super technology. Man,

1140
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: it's a new level now earlier mid two thousand's obviously,

1141
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: rest in peace, mcdra The HiFi movement comes in and

1142
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: y'all stepped to the forefront of that, you know, with

1143
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: two anthems, low the whistle and uh tell me when

1144
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: to go. What was that movement like? Because that really

1145
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: again kind of stamped the bay again. Like they got

1146
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: this they on their own ship. They got this whole

1147
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,479
Speaker 1: little movement going on again that did not only stayed

1148
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: there but swept the world. Sure beach are always telling me, man, man,

1149
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: they after doing that dance. So really a lot of

1150
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: the ship come from the town. But don't get it

1151
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: fucked up. Matt dre had his own thing too, you

1152
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: understand me, So we we would. I would always say

1153
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: that mac dray was like the in the forefront of

1154
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: all that. You know what I'm saying, Oh we did.

1155
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: All I did was joined in like everybody else from

1156
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: northern California, you know what I'm saying, Like, why not

1157
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: I never moved them out of this motherfucker And even

1158
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: if I did, so what I'm Bay Area to the heart,

1159
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I had to participate.

1160
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't Finn the player hey,

1161
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 1: So you know basically I was already doing songs while

1162
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: he was alive. We had the song with the with

1163
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: the Federation called you understand Me, um Haifie. Matt Drake

1164
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: was well alive. You know what I'm saying. Um. You

1165
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: know I went out there with Little John them um

1166
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: in two thousand four and I stayed out there for

1167
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: like three weeks and did my get a report card album?

1168
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: When I was out there. My work ethic was incredible. Um,

1169
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: I have I have the best of both worlds. I

1170
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: had Snap music because I was on like this two

1171
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: step remix and stuff like that. I was on the

1172
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: I was on you know, I was gonna snap your

1173
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: fingers and and many other songs out there. You know

1174
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Me Uh. And then I'm working with

1175
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in the Bay as well. You know,

1176
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: we had um you know this is a slumper. You

1177
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with with with the boy, um

1178
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: with the boy, Uh, turf talk, you know what I'm saying.

1179
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: My cousin Turf talk with Crazy Rick Rock produced that

1180
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: this is a slumper. It's a slumper. This is a slumper.

1181
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We had I was the one. Oh,

1182
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: I had one. I had one. What the hell was called?

1183
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: We had some dumb ass do We had the one

1184
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: with we had the one with uh with, We had Heife,

1185
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: we had the one with fab we had my son

1186
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: Drew be produced with me Turf Talking and Fabular fab record. Um.

1187
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: Then it was called super sick with it like we

1188
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: was gradually making a whole new sound, you understand me.

1189
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: And so with that being said, you know John we

1190
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: one day it was a magical day, right and Short

1191
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: was there too? Short came in when I think Short

1192
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: you came in when I was doing muscle cars. Right

1193
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: was the muscle cars you came into the studio that day? Yeah,

1194
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: I checked that out the field of sessions man Atlanta. Yeah, yeah,

1195
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: so Short, because you know, little joh we we had

1196
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: to think on the studio and so umlutle job was

1197
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: just fucking around on the on the um on the drums,

1198
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: and he came with that motherfucker bom bom bom bom,

1199
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: bump bump bump, bump bomp, That's what that was. That's

1200
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: all right there. When he did that, we was like,

1201
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: oh that's a this is a whole another sound. This

1202
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: ain't this, ain't no this, ain't this, ain't hype. This

1203
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 1: is I mean this ain't this, ain't this, ain't no

1204
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: name for this butt HiPE because it's energy. You know

1205
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know what I call I

1206
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: call you know that. You know I called keep the sneak.

1207
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. That's his thing. You know

1208
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, energy, You know HIPI You know what

1209
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So kick kick kickers like the pain. You

1210
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,479
Speaker 1: got him down the Atlanta right knock. It's a trick

1211
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: I was feeling. I was actually filed sending him the

1212
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: track and I and and Dang Fame was like, damn

1213
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: fan was like we in that line, I say, nigga,

1214
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: you're not in Atlanta, bro, because they ain't never in

1215
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: that line like that, you know, because I was, you know,

1216
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: I was saying I was hanging out in Atlanta. So

1217
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the funk? I say, Man, Bro, nigga,

1218
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: look here, man, we got big liquor, we got big smoke,

1219
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: we got everything you need, big food. Slide through this

1220
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: motherfucker right now, coming stinky stink on your studio with

1221
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: the hurry up. That's my nigga. The niggas came. The

1222
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: niggas came through the man. I knew he was there.

1223
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: I thought, no, no, he was there, and so we

1224
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: when we so he came. So he heard muscle cars

1225
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: and just you know for us, muscle cars. You know,

1226
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, he got that unique voice. You know what

1227
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They killed this ship right. Let me tell

1228
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: the hyping story, man, the story go ahead, go ahead,

1229
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: and I got a story to trying to finish up though,

1230
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: because they want to know, they want to know. Short,

1231
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: go here, i'ta tell you. I'm gonna tell you the

1232
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: history of the hype. What this is gonna finish your man, Okay,

1233
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: let me finish up, and let me finish up and

1234
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: make a long story short and a short story long

1235
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: too short. Hello, So uh that's crazy. Hey. So what

1236
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying is what I did was this, he came

1237
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 1: with muscle cars. Okay. I sent it to turf Talk.

1238
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: We emailed it to turf Talk. So turf Talk, get

1239
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: to the studio. I need you to write this whatever.

1240
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: So he wrote the ship, killed it, sent it back.

1241
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: Killed that ship that same day, the same motherfucking day.

1242
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: A few minutes after he made Little John made muscle cars,

1243
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: he was working around with the little drum thing do

1244
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: do cat do do do do Cat do? Cat do

1245
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: do do do cat do? Came with that drum pattern.

1246
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, ain't nothing, this is tribal. This ain't

1247
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,959
Speaker 1: ain't no ship like this out there ever, this ain't

1248
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: never been no. This is something that's so unique, and

1249
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: no one I like unique ship. So I go on

1250
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. I spent my ship. No before I even

1251
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: spent my ship. Keep kicking um dangn go to They

1252
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,479
Speaker 1: huddled up. They went around the corner. They was violent,

1253
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: was drinking and everything, and he just and they went

1254
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: around the corner like around the corn when I said

1255
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: literally around the corner, like in the hallway, and huddled

1256
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: up and was like, tell me when they got damn

1257
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: when they got tell me when they got you're feeling

1258
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: to talk about. And so they came in there did

1259
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: the hook. I'm like, I added my little crazy as

1260
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: what tell me when the girl? And then lu John's

1261
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: just LuSE John looked at me, and I looked at him.

1262
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: He just he went found dumb girl by run DMC

1263
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: and just dumb, dumb um dumb girl. I'll say this,

1264
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: naked a little John Tho. Right, that's when he came

1265
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: with that dum dum dum dumb you feel me? And

1266
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: it was just magic in that bit. So then so

1267
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: we had we had two verses on there, right, I

1268
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: had a verse at the first verse, Juice Critch had

1269
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: dress to shake him. I ain't got nothing about playing

1270
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: on girls something. Kick had his ship. Then we sent

1271
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: the same ship to turf Talk. Turf Talk killed it.

1272
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: Turf Talk couse of turk Talk gas that thing. So

1273
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: little John steppy and he just turf talk killed that ship.

1274
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: But nib you gotta we gotta take him off of

1275
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: that one, because we already got on muscle cars, right,

1276
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: we gotta take them. We gotta take him off of

1277
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: that You neither one of y'all need to wrap on

1278
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: the third verse, nobody, you need to do a chance.

1279
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: He said, you need to do a chance. I need

1280
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: you to talk about everything that goes on in y'all

1281
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: region in the Bay Area. With that movement, y'all got

1282
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: going on and that's when I did it, and it

1283
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: became a classic gas record. I was gonna let y'all

1284
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: know that hell off classic record, Classic Verse classic. Now

1285
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: let me tell you what the hype is, man, This this,

1286
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: this is what, this is what happened. So what what

1287
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: somebody that's not from the Bay would think as the hype,

1288
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: You would think it was a movement from two thousand

1289
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: and two or something to like five six, seven years later,

1290
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: And it was this movement that happened. It really was

1291
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: nine year round. So hife never had a name. It's

1292
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: is the way Bay Nick is acted. That's what we did.

1293
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: We had side shows, they burned rubber, they had you know,

1294
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: show off your card, and it was the whole fully everything,

1295
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: like you know, the whole I'm saying, the whole Bay.

1296
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you get together, you burn rubber, you

1297
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: you do your ship, y'all hang out wherever it be

1298
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: with intersection, wherever that ship being going down the mall

1299
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: parking lot. Whatever the way they was dancing was, you know,

1300
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: it was the the Bay ship was like real Mahdi

1301
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,479
Speaker 1: And I think what what Kick the Snake and mac

1302
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: drey did was they made it. They you know, ecstasy

1303
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: started getting popular and they made it a little more

1304
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: fun and it was partying and ship. They still spitting

1305
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: the same game that everybody's been getting from E forty

1306
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: and Too Short. But then they turned it into you know,

1307
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: out in the streets, the little the little hipie dance

1308
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: and all that ship. They was doing that ship before

1309
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: they called it hype. Somebody just gave it a name

1310
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: one day and then Little John is Little John is

1311
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: hold me from Atlanta who I was working with Little

1312
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: John even when he worked with Jermaine Duprie so so deaf.

1313
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: I've been working with Little John since, like since he

1314
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: wasn't even famous, and Little John has always been my guy.

1315
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: So we did a lot of songs together, a lot

1316
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of music together, a

1317
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: lot And at one point Little John was getting really

1318
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: hot in the game and he went to do a

1319
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: show in the bay and he hit me up and

1320
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: he said, man, it's some ship going on in the bay.

1321
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: That's he like, I want to funk with that ship.

1322
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: He's like, he said, I want to make you and

1323
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: E forty records like that. So Little John wentdn't got

1324
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: a taste of whatever was going on. He got some

1325
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: some mac dre is um, some kick the sneak is m.

1326
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: He got something he caught win up and because he's

1327
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: a DJ, and he DJ parties and you know what

1328
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: makes parties go. So he had a mission to give

1329
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: e forty in two story hit records that went with

1330
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: this movement that was happening in the bay and little

1331
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: Short that's true, right, But the the sound that he

1332
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: came with was like, I mean, he's an overachiever, no other,

1333
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: no other ever on his earth. Like the ship that

1334
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: was going on, there was hype in the bay. Didn't

1335
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: sound nothing like to tell me when to go and

1336
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: motherfucking um and and blow the whistle like and what

1337
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: was kick the stink song he did? He didn't want

1338
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: to kick too right, No, he didn't do one for kick, No,

1339
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: he did. That's my word track Millian did that. Oh

1340
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: it's that's that's just sound like a Jeans Rick Rock

1341
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: did Blue. Little John was giving hypee Beach to niggas

1342
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: Pete Pablo, Uh, he was beat to Yan Yang Twins.

1343
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: That nigga was you know that fucking up Ussher and

1344
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: uh and Little John that yeah, that's kind of hype

1345
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: that when she was on that vibe come on, you

1346
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So and we got Rick Rock.

1347
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: Rick Rock had a lot to do with the hype movement.

1348
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: To man, the federation what they sound that I think

1349
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: you seeing you're sounded. I call HiFi. If you want

1350
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: to put a name hype on it is Rick Rock sound.

1351
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: That's me. That's my personal London. Know what I'm saying.

1352
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: Tracks a million was enhancing the sound. Little John did

1353
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: a version of it, but that the heart of the babe,

1354
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: that fucking but everybody was trying to be like a

1355
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: sound like with Rick Rock. Rick roll out about it. Rock.

1356
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: It's the truth. So you know that ship that should happened, man.

1357
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: And then if the last thing I want to say is,

1358
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: just like I said, you think hype is a fucking

1359
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: time frame, that ship is still going on right now. Man,

1360
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: it's the same. It's the same exact ship. It ain't changed.

1361
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: Niggas are still hip. If the right song come on,

1362
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: new or old, it's still crazy. Yeah, just a newer

1363
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: type dance to a little flavor to it. They're doing

1364
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: their dances because the dances never more than that surfaced.

1365
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: They never really surface surface surface to the globe like

1366
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 1: you makes you do it, the music makes you do it.

1367
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: The whole bay had dress. Don't get fund up. We

1368
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: didn't create driss. You know, like I say, dress being

1369
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 1: around you know the way before we was even thought up.

1370
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm saying. But at the

1371
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: end of the day, the whole bay realized this had

1372
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: no shirt song with dread locks. Everybody in the bay

1373
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: had dress with no shirt song. Helen Nias in the

1374
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: video with dred locks next to you know, the whole

1375
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: world start growing up. I know we had a big

1376
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: influence on the hip hop with that ship down right now,

1377
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: New York had dress and like a more of a

1378
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: different type of way. It was like different though when

1379
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: this ship, when the ship hit the bay, when the

1380
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: base having dress, it was different. It was shaking up.

1381
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: They were just sinking them. Thank you for putting that

1382
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: in perspective, because they want abody thinking of hating on

1383
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: him or nothing. That's all Miami niggas had brains early, early, early,

1384
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: But they wasn't sinking them like I said. They wasn't

1385
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: like just like he said, they were taking That was

1386
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 1: the best way to ever say it. They definitely had

1387
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: the real day and they had to they had to

1388
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: dress with they they had to dress. They had them

1389
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: Rostafarian dress too, and the other kind. You feel me?

1390
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, hell yeah, the world been on them. Don't

1391
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: get it sunked up. I don't want nobody take this

1392
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: sound body being like man the first one with dress,

1393
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: because they'll do that ship, they'll do that to be

1394
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: they do that. You know what I'm saying. I'm just

1395
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: saying we had a big influence. Yeah, they do that ship. Hey,

1396
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: but hey, but Jesus had them first. How about that

1397
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ and dress. Huh. Now, I'll set you down

1398
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 1: right now and play you a whole list of songs

1399
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 1: that nobody's from the bag. It'll be some Tiger songs,

1400
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: it might be some some y g to be some

1401
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: risky kid me to to chains. I mean, listen long

1402
01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: Yo Gotti and this all HIKEI songs Drake and it's

1403
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: the hype ain't going nowhere. It's a vibe that it happened,

1404
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: and it's happening, and I think it comes from I

1405
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 1: can take you back to like some early two shorts,

1406
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: some early forty and it's hype. It's the same beat Mr. Flamboyant,

1407
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: like it's hype like we've been doing it. It's just

1408
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: it just it just got a name. Nothing about that,

1409
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: y'all know nothing about that. It's hard. Why'll be telling

1410
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: people the bay is like his own little world, you

1411
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And and with little John went

1412
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: out there, he got a small taste of it. But like,

1413
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: where did y'all get your vernacular? From the way you

1414
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: pronounced stuff, do stuff, the way you move, just your

1415
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: whole swag for you've always been known for creating words

1416
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: like where did all that kind of wordplay come from?

1417
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: Top of the line? Why don't call us rossy? It's

1418
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 1: natural like an Afro. This ship, this ship is embroidered

1419
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: in US. You know what I'm saying, Man, we got

1420
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 1: we got this. We got don't get it funked up.

1421
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: We got the South in US. You know, my daddy

1422
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: for Mississippi. You understanding, my granddad, my mama's daddy and

1423
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: mama they're from Louisiana. They're from Bernice, Louisiana. You're still

1424
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Ship like that, So it's like we

1425
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: got like you know, we got we got Richmond. The

1426
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: Richmond folks, like I always talk about Richmond because you know, man,

1427
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 1: when you talk about what got the South end that

1428
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 1: they're gonna never leave, that's Richmond. May Hey, mate, hey mate,

1429
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Richmond. You know what I'm

1430
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: telling because I was laced by Richard. I was laced

1431
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: by Richmond cass to like street niggas, like street niggas

1432
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: from Richmond, like Bona Fide, Unstan and rappers South to

1433
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: Magic Bank and count the teeth. You feel what I'm saying.

1434
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: So it's like they came out. I to always say, man,

1435
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: some of these Richard niggas come out here, nigga with

1436
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: permanent They came out the womb with permanent gold teeth. Nigga. Yeah,

1437
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: because they popped that ship. They got gang. You know

1438
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So this whole babe, I think what

1439
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: it is a lot of people, a lot of the

1440
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: grandparents and stuff like that moved to the babe. They

1441
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: went to Alan be the Air Force basically with the

1442
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: Travis Air Force, basically with the Mare Island. They went

1443
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 1: to all through all all through the Bay and set

1444
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: up shot because it was in the military that you

1445
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. The grandparents you know what, the

1446
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: grandfather's and so they moved their family out here. And

1447
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 1: that's and you put all that ship together, and the

1448
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: bay just got a unique way of things. Don't get

1449
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: it funked up. It's not. It's just a mixture of

1450
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: you know. And I always say the town, it's like

1451
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: you're understanding. And the nucleus they are they they they

1452
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: they they're the center of the bay. Like they the ones.

1453
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: They create a lot of ship. The town is Oakland,

1454
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I give them that.

1455
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I got a lot of my game

1456
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: because they was living a We're from a small city.

1457
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: We gaged up. Don't get it funked up, cause we

1458
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: got the game from everywhere. Me and mcdrey and all

1459
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: of us, we got the game from everywhere, but we

1460
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: all had our own thing. So we got we got

1461
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: the whole bait. And that's me and mc dre. We

1462
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: had the whole bay in us. You know what I'm saying.

1463
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: We have Oakland, Ritz and Frisco, he's Paliato. You understand me. Um,

1464
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm And the whole the whole bank,

1465
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: you feel me, so so on and so forth, and

1466
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: and we had us. So you pull up if you

1467
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: pull up on Hunters Point, you pull up on Fillmore,

1468
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: you pull up West Southland, East Southland, Uh dip somewhere

1469
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: like East Pola fucking Valletto Park, you know, Richmond. It's

1470
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: all these slick ass, slick niggas that just old niggas

1471
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: is older than us. That always was just cool as fun,

1472
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: whether they was custling or pipping or just some old

1473
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: like you said, old Southern nigga that just you know

1474
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: how South nigga just be cool like you nick, you

1475
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: don't even gotta have no money, but the nigga got cool.

1476
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: And then we just we got that ship. And you

1477
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We and motherfucker you gotta have

1478
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: you know, motherfucker walked up point. What's up? Bro? You

1479
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: gotta say your your next thing gotta be some slick

1480
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: and little niggathing like motherfucker tell me what's up? Hey,

1481
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: what's up? Bro? Oh Man? Sometimes me always you you

1482
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: gotta be ready. That's that shift I'm talking about, though.

1483
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: For do you be saying some ship though to you

1484
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: make you think after you hear it, because you didn't

1485
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,560
Speaker 1: really hear it the first time. Like you gotta what

1486
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: do you just say? So here it is, Matt. You

1487
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: know I'm one of them to do is. Man. You

1488
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 1: know I can throw you five ounces a game, but

1489
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: you only might catch two of them. You know what

1490
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's gonna go over there here like an umbrella.

1491
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like like right now, one of my

1492
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: newest ones that I was. I made this up probably

1493
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: bout a month ago. I was like, somebody asked me, man,

1494
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: what you've been up to? I say, man, saying story different, worry.

1495
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a mixture of things. You know

1496
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, it's just a mixture of

1497
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: things like the grip dont quit, man, It's like, this

1498
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: is what we do. We specialize in vernacular and slang

1499
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: and game and all that. Ship. My favorite new one, bro,

1500
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: my favorite newes is you'd be sliding it so smooth.

1501
01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: It is the plandemic, he said the first time that, Sir,

1502
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: I said, you said what I need. I need to

1503
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: be in one of the Muscato commercials. Forty next time.

1504
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: Let me know I'm gonna see y'all. I'm gonna say,

1505
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: y'all care package. Man, I'm gonna get y'all all the

1506
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: motherfucking alcohol. Bro, You're gonna have a bar hello right now,

1507
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: I'm on Earl Stevens Watermelon speaking up? What you want?

1508
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: What you want? What you want? What you wanted water?

1509
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: That watermelon? That watermelt man? What you want? What you want?

1510
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 1: What you want? You want coyper Bill bourbon eight age

1511
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: for eight years. You want cyper Bill top? This is

1512
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: top drawer, Bro, what you want? You gotta tell me

1513
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: what y'all want? Do you want the cotton? Do you

1514
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: do you want the Earl Stevens cotton, candy, sparkling wine cotton.

1515
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 1: I just want to wine. I just want wine. I

1516
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: just want wine. Also, so you want why so you want?

1517
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: When I was drinking on versus? You want the mango skisnado?

1518
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: Yeah that skisno Yeah, you brought it up. He speaking

1519
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: of versus right here to short a love that he

1520
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 1: let the blue lagol and I gotta go get there.

1521
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: That dawn all came man and slurry cane is very effective.

1522
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of versus, y'all shut versus down. The numbers were crazy,

1523
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: the energy was crazy. I remember I was in Texas

1524
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: for AU and we had just played the game and

1525
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: went to dinner. I had it on for all the

1526
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: parents to watch. Y'all shut that ship down. How how

1527
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: much fun was this as fun there as y'all made

1528
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 1: it look, because y'all started drinking and got wet. Short

1529
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: started changing outfits on this all kinds of ship before

1530
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 1: he started then like us like, I got on my seat,

1531
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: I got my I got I got on my seat

1532
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,799
Speaker 1: when I said, sha, put the uh with the agree

1533
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: over the age jacket on it. Yeah, I see that.

1534
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: I got my seat there, Bro, I got out my seat. Hey,

1535
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 1: they was entertained like they entertained us. It wasn't just

1536
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: throw your song against my son. They was real showman

1537
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: games and been shipped out there. So how did that

1538
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: come about it? How much fun did y'all have doing that?

1539
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: First of all, Short, we sure get going this nicking comedy. Bro.

1540
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what what time he was in Detroit? Right?

1541
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: What time? We in the MGM casino and we're just

1542
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: now walking in show. I was like, Nick, I got

1543
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: some pussy out there, and he just I said, okay, sure,

1544
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: wenn talking to you later, and he just and then

1545
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: he just slid off. He had to rent a card

1546
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: and he just said he before he slid off, He

1547
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: just and just slid off. Say this nig is short

1548
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: and thow. So once you get short going, I'm telling

1549
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: you to do this. And we did this many times

1550
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: in our life in the studio and together any time

1551
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: we gather up, but go ahead and tell him, tell

1552
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: him how we did this ship short, tell him hand on.

1553
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: It was just no no rehearse, no no talking points. No,

1554
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: let's not discussed what we're gonna do and what we

1555
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do. Let's just go out there and do

1556
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: what we do. And I knew that forty was you know,

1557
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: something was he was gonna get a special something, something

1558
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: was gonna be you know, he was gonna have moments,

1559
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 1: he was gonna bring it and like he did. And

1560
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta have some ship fits. I

1561
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: gotta have something like that side keep up with the

1562
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: water and ship. And now, you know, I just knew

1563
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: that if we rehearsed it, or if we told each

1564
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: other we was gonna do it, wasn't gonna be right.

1565
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: And then the other part is everybody loved I was,

1566
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 1: you know, I was invested in the g Z Gucci

1567
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: thing because I remember when they was homies and we

1568
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 1: was all hanging out, and I just you know that

1569
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: at lattin days and and I kind of I think

1570
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: I look at that as one of my my personal

1571
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: hip hop tragedies of Gucci and Jess not spit teen

1572
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: years to know that you. I'm gonna let you talk,

1573
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: but I want to I want to say this. It's

1574
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: a trip because I met Gucci and Jeez the same

1575
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: day two thousand two. Who I was on um we

1576
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 1: we we were shooting a video with Blue Da Vinci.

1577
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: We was on big Beach bus in Atlanta. You understand me,

1578
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: some free big beach man, you understand me. But I'm

1579
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: just saying I got I got songs. I got great

1580
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: songs with with Jeez, Young Jeezy and Gucci. Man, I

1581
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: funk with them both. I got number loveing them brothers,

1582
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 1: and I would it just it just made me feel

1583
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: so good, man, when I see them dudes, you know,

1584
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, kind of patch it up in front of

1585
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: the world and and show showmanship, man, to show show

1586
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 1: the world that things can be. You know, things could

1587
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 1: come out you know pretty good man. If you, if you,

1588
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you open minded, you know

1589
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so I'm gonna let you get back

1590
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: to it to it. But a lot of verses UM

1591
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: had that battle element where it came from, you know,

1592
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: the first verses, the early ones was like let's battle

1593
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: and see you know, you know, whether it's polic for

1594
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: fun or in that case of Jeezy and Gucci, everybody

1595
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: was watching because it was so real, like it was

1596
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 1: just you know, the real elements of it. So we

1597
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: knew about all the verses. I've seen Jill and Eric

1598
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: and we see it, you know, all of them. You

1599
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 1: know the style it was going into one thing. We

1600
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: was like, well man, we were wrapping that baber, so

1601
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: you know, right off the rip, we gotta be different

1602
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: than anything that ever happened in Versus. Ever, that's the

1603
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: first thing in foremost so we uh they came up

1604
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: with that. That was you and Larry and all the Swissing,

1605
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 1: all them. They came up with to let's celebrate the

1606
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: bay and I was I was kind of like not

1607
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: really on board any kind of way you looked at it.

1608
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a fan of Versus, but I

1609
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: don't want to be I don't want to battle nobody

1610
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: like too short against somebody. I don't want to do that.

1611
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: And then when they devised the the concept of the

1612
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 1: celebrate the Bay and tell the story of the Bay,

1613
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, now that I can get here. And then

1614
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: all we had to do was um, a little bit

1615
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: of tequila some we had some slur cane up there.

1616
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: It was was like y'all was on one for real.

1617
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: You know. We were just kind of like, hey, we

1618
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: just went there. Man. Like I literally like I haven't

1619
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: I haven't watched it back, but I literally like enjoyed

1620
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: that as a moment in my memory is like a

1621
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: really good time I had. Like it was fun. I

1622
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 1: mean you could sing along literally like I said, we

1623
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: was at the time, I forgot what restaurant, Jack, what's

1624
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: the I'm forgetting this pissing me off? And we go

1625
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: to Dallas the little Uh, what's the big restaurant. It's

1626
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 1: it's in Houston. It's the seafood and all the no,

1627
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: no at all, yo. So we took the whole team. Yeah,

1628
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: how did I forget that? We took that. We took

1629
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: the kids whole team there. So the kids are at

1630
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 1: one table, parents at the other table. I had my

1631
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: phone set up and I put in the company. It

1632
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 1: was blasting. Everybody was singing, and we was danced like

1633
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: we had a really good time. No, we've got fucked

1634
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: up listening to everything. Everybody got drunk, but we had

1635
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: like a real good time, just like I said, But

1636
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 1: such great memories the time from the beginning to the end.

1637
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: You could sing along with everything. Man, So we definitely

1638
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: wanted to slute you all for that, man, because y'all

1639
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: definitely bless us with that that. You know we do.

1640
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: You know what we did before, thank y'all. Man. You

1641
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 1: know what we did before we even got it started.

1642
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: We prayed. You know. You know I'm here to encourage you.

1643
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to act like I'm a saying or anything.

1644
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: I was raised by Granddaddy Thurman. You know what I'm saying, Um,

1645
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: Reverend Thurman. You know Charles Thurman. That's that's uncle st Charles, Daddy,

1646
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: my mom and daddy. You know what I'm saying. He

1647
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: was a preacher sixty years in the game. You know,

1648
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: die when he's eighty two years old. You know what

1649
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I'm saying I got that in me,

1650
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: and I pray into any situation like if before you

1651
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: even have a conversation, even if it's some three stuff

1652
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. It is, any difficult situation, if you got

1653
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: to make a um a choice, you know, you pray

1654
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: on them period in life in general. And that's what

1655
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: we did. We this was this didn't had nothing to

1656
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: do with none of that, but it was like, let's

1657
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: pray on it for a successful night. Asked God to

1658
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: put the blood Jesus wrong, the blood Jesus around our

1659
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 1: family at home. That to be a successful event, and

1660
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: let us all get back safe. And Jesus name a man.

1661
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: And that's what we did, and it became one of

1662
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: them was and then me and short one to go

1663
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 1: pick up a bag after that or during and after

1664
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: of late. Not to change the tone, but I think

1665
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 1: this person is important just in the whole game overall.

1666
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: We've seen Dre in the hospital. Obviously we wish him

1667
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: a speedy recovery. To your guys eyes and seeing this

1668
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: whole journey of music, how important is Dre's path in

1669
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 1: in music? Man he was you know he was before

1670
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: he was before us. I believe it was the world

1671
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: class record crew. Yeah, you know, uh it turn off

1672
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 1: the license dates before I turned off to I used

1673
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 1: to slap that hell out of mister Lacey album. I'm serious,

1674
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: like I had a Blue. I Had a Blue. That

1675
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: was her singing that before she was famous. She was

1676
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: singing that song on World Class Record Crew. See okay,

1677
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm in there you and I'm in there.

1678
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: So you know, like Dr Dre, you know, I'm gonna

1679
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: tell you right now, man, that dude is iconic. He

1680
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: means so much. You know, as I get older, I

1681
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: get wiser, you look back, you're like, dude. You know,

1682
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: dude really brought a lot to hip hop overall, not

1683
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: just the West Coast overall, you know, and he's still

1684
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: setting examples. I mean, this man is you know, pretty

1685
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: much a billion there man. You know what I'm saying,

1686
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: This man gave up a lot to get to and

1687
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: and and God blessed it with way more. You know.

1688
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: You know, Drey is really really really important man, from

1689
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 1: uh you know, just cultural standpoint of how he is

1690
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: one of the biggest in the game and you want

1691
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: to like brag on your region. You know, I got

1692
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: pluff daddy, I got baby cash money with ever. You know,

1693
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: we got Dr Dre, we got you know, West Coast

1694
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: hip hop legend, a fucking billionaire. You know what I'm saying,

1695
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: made it off hip hop, So the dream is there.

1696
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, um and on it. From a

1697
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 1: technical standpoint, you got Dr Dre in the game even

1698
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 1: before Too Short and fucking Iced Tea. Like he's out

1699
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 1: there making records and he's the nigger who early on

1700
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: brings you Easy. Then follows that up with ice Cube

1701
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 1: Wren and they come as a group called n w A.

1702
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: And then at the same time, I was on tour

1703
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: with m w A when they went on on the

1704
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: Straight Out of Conference tour. I was on that tour

1705
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: because I had Freaky tails out and Easy was my homie,

1706
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 1: and um, while we on tour, Dr Dre and Easy

1707
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 1: dropped d o C's album. And while he's on tour,

1708
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 1: he's nobody and body the end of the tour, he's somebody,

1709
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he came home and

1710
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: like he's famous, Like you got the hottest album out.

1711
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: I have forgot that story. I talked to DNC and

1712
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: he reminded me he's like, while I'm on tour, the

1713
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 1: tour ends and as it ends, I'm the hottest artist

1714
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: out at the moment, and I mean Drake later on

1715
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: comes he brings you uh you know, a large part

1716
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 1: of Toothpac that we love. You know. I don't know

1717
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 1: if Dre did all that Toothpac death Fro stuff, but

1718
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying like just jumping off California was enough. When

1719
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: the pot came home to just that Dre stamp and

1720
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: it was just you know, the vibe Drake. Dre gave

1721
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: us some uh fifty cent them and them like just

1722
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 1: just snoop snoopy dog. He's by Dre, like he just

1723
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 1: just I mean, he's just important, man, That's all it is.

1724
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: Like he really is important. I'm gonna tell you one thing.

1725
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,560
Speaker 1: We used to take the Chronic and it was like

1726
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: a few songs on there, like probably like three songs

1727
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: that we used to use. Listen to the first Chronic

1728
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: album and we would we would mix our songs and

1729
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: then we will play Dre song, and then we play

1730
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: our song and we go if the ship don't sound

1731
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: close to Dre a song, we gotta go back at

1732
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 1: the studio and mixing some more. Like like we gotta

1733
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,759
Speaker 1: like like literally, I I made a lot of records

1734
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: like using the Chronic as the bar. That's how important

1735
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Dre is. That's real that you spoke on Short, you

1736
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: spoke on Easy. Can you speak to your relationship and

1737
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: what you guys are both young in the game and

1738
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 1: coming up. What was that relationship Like, well, you know

1739
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: in the hip hop game, man, we we um we

1740
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: like to have the moments where you the hottest Canada

1741
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 1: summer or you got a banger. That's an anthem, you

1742
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We we we thrive for their

1743
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: moments and being easy. And it was like summer eighty seven,

1744
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 1: pushing in eight. We had Boys in the Hood and

1745
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: Freaky Tails was out at the same time, and it

1746
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: was like deniably the trump was just we owned the

1747
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: trunk while them two records was out. We just had

1748
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: that moment and that was he was doing an easy

1749
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: solo thing, but they were prepping for, you know, getting

1750
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: ready for n w A. So when n w A

1751
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 1: came out, that thing just just blew up straight out

1752
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: of competence, just blew up. And I mean I was

1753
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: out there on that same level, you know, in that

1754
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 1: same audience and Easy. It was like, I'm gonna take

1755
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 1: this dude too short with me, So I got to call,

1756
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: He's like, like you want to go on to him, like,

1757
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: I've never been on tour. I'm like, that was you.

1758
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: That was your first time touring, man, that was the

1759
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: first time going into arenas and it sold out and

1760
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 1: it's the you know, the the light come on and

1761
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, this whole stadium and so yeah,

1762
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: that's first time. So you know, um yeah, I credit

1763
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 1: Easy for that and I went on that tour. When

1764
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 1: I got out on tour, I dropped The Life Is

1765
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 1: Too Short the album and it was at like three

1766
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,680
Speaker 1: hundred thousand sales. When the tour ended, I was at

1767
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: eight hundred thousands sales just from the tour. Another another

1768
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, five hundred thousand. Then I get off tour

1769
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 1: and it thinks, l like another five hundred thousand, like

1770
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: just right, like it's just like that that whole you know,

1771
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: connected with Dre and Easy, like that just just changed everything.

1772
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,719
Speaker 1: That was the beginning of my friendship with ice Cube,

1773
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 1: which is a lifelong friendship. That's you know that you know,

1774
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 1: just the same as always was right now and it's

1775
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: just you know that that was that moment where you

1776
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:31,719
Speaker 1: you know, you you know, get out in the world,

1777
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,560
Speaker 1: and it's the it's the first time you you know,

1778
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: I've come home. I got the Mercedes in the housepit

1779
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: of pool. Oh you know all that type of ships.

1780
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 1: So that was that moment in life. And Easy was

1781
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: he was like a real you know, like let's talk

1782
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 1: about you say, how important is Dre? How important it's Easy?

1783
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 1: Because Easy Easy goes and gets the bag that brings

1784
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 1: Dre out of world class record crew where he wasn't

1785
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 1: happy or you know, I talked to Lines on his

1786
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: and his version, but Dre clicked up with Easy. They

1787
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: started doing that thing. Easy was grinding in the streets,

1788
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: putting that money together for them to make that move,

1789
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: you know. And I mean if you just think if

1790
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: you put Dr Dre on the Easy family tree, I

1791
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 1: mean that tree is tremendous man with with the ice

1792
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: cubes and the bone thugs and the d o cs

1793
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: and a bud of law and Michell Leihan and and

1794
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 1: it goes to eminem and fifty sending anybody you want

1795
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: to connect to anything that came from the Easy branch.

1796
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: The man you take away Easy and none of that happens.

1797
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 1: What is what I mean? Like like for real though,

1798
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: So he had that he had that vision man, and

1799
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: he was you know, he was he was a business

1800
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 1: guy and he was he was what I've seen him

1801
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: in action. He was a short dude, but he always

1802
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 1: stayed trap and he always I've never seen him like

1803
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 1: in the movie when they he had to be scary

1804
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: and whatever in the movie. I've never seen that ship.

1805
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: I've never seen I heard that too. They said he

1806
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 1: wasn't backing down to nobody. Yeah, I didn't see that.

1807
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: I've seen him a lot of times like buck up

1808
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 1: on people and like what like I So you know,

1809
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: I know he was really in the streets. I talked

1810
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: to the guys who was like I used to uh

1811
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 1: serve with him. I used to serve him what he had.

1812
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: I've seen they liked the nigger really was out there.

1813
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 1: So um, he had a lot of kids. Yeah, he

1814
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 1: was on tour. He had more. He had more bitches

1815
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: than all of us, like like by hard like you nink.

1816
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 1: It was a super player and you know he was

1817
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 1: a baller man. So you know the rest. So y'all

1818
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 1: both just recently UH dropped the bundle album forty for You.

1819
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,799
Speaker 1: It's your twenty seven short for you, your twenty second

1820
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 1: about that project. Oh oh man, come on man, yeah yeah,

1821
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: so so so, um, you know we did we did

1822
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 1: the Versus on the ninetees and we you know that

1823
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: Friday was a good day to drop music. I had one.

1824
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 1: I had an album playing. Actually it was gonna be

1825
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: an EP curb commentator channel three. Um, so I was like,

1826
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, let me throw a curveballing and let's postpone

1827
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: that and just call it. You know, stand me terms

1828
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 1: and conditions, you understand me. And then I resume you know,

1829
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: the curb commentator later on, you know what I'm saying.

1830
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: And so, you know, Short was like, you know, I'm

1831
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 1: dropping too, and I was like, let's put it in

1832
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 1: the so so who's that who? Galing Galen has said

1833
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: let's put it, let's bombs put it in a bundle,

1834
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I like, that's that's just

1835
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: that makes sense that you know that way we can

1836
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 1: just you know, we get on each other songs like

1837
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 1: we always do, you know what I'm saying, And we

1838
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: put it half on on the pr campaign. It's a

1839
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: whole lot of it. There was a whole lot of

1840
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 1: pluses to bundling the albums together, but then it was

1841
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: also like it's versus, and we took the opportunity to

1842
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 1: kind of like if you listen to the projects, they

1843
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 1: really it's really like Oh to the Bay, Like it's

1844
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 1: really real baish, like real managed based out. And that

1845
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 1: was done on purpose on my side for show, for show,

1846
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 1: like really just trying to make it like I don't

1847
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: even I wasn't even trying to get you know, like

1848
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: really like commercial vibe. I just wanted like some real

1849
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 1: street babe bump to go with Versus. And then you know,

1850
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 1: we we got the Mountain Westmore project coming. Westmore is

1851
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: gonna be huge, man, mount Westmore is gonna be huge.

1852
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: That's gonna be huge. This is I want to see.

1853
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to cut you off short, but I

1854
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:49,799
Speaker 1: want to get up out of this mother fan motherfucker

1855
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: pandemic so that so that group can go on tour.

1856
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: That's what I want. I want to see that lot.

1857
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 1: You know, hearing it's gonna be great, but seeing it

1858
01:34:56,439 --> 01:35:01,680
Speaker 1: in person it's gonna be incredible. Want to hear Curb commentator.

1859
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear Curb commentator the Curb commentator.

1860
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm back on it. I'm right. Look the grip. Don't

1861
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,839
Speaker 1: quite with me every day I'm in it's this Newdo

1862
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: you understand me? And I'm going crazy? And uh, I

1863
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 1: just feel like if I'm in my right mind and

1864
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 1: I got my life health and strength, and I got

1865
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 1: God on my side, I'll be able to make music forever.

1866
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: As long as I'm in my right mind and I

1867
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: got my life health and strength. That's very important, right mine,

1868
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 1: life health and strength. That means a lot that way,

1869
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: because I'm my sarftuvity and everything else is gonna be there.

1870
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 1: Adaptabilities come on exactly, man, and I and I and

1871
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm in the loop like a hula hoop. You know

1872
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I ain't out the frame. I'm in

1873
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:51,599
Speaker 1: the game. Hello, you know you got y'all have spoken earlier.

1874
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: But what is the transition into business been like for

1875
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 1: you guys? I mean saying, you know, black business owner,

1876
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 1: these days are very important for do you got a

1877
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on in the in the in

1878
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: the alcohol space. Talk to us for a second about

1879
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: what that, what that means to you and how important

1880
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 1: that is to you. Okay, this is important for me

1881
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 1: right now to actually plugging this phone right now, plug

1882
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 1: let me plugging in for I don't want it to

1883
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 1: die on me. Well, I'm talking to y'all, so i'd

1884
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 1: rather have I'd rather have a messed up speaker when

1885
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 1: I often put you on the loud speaker, right quick,

1886
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: hold on while I talk to you. Yes, then what

1887
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Okay, can y'all hear me? Now? Can you

1888
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 1: hear me? You said you said like you call it

1889
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: from jail, but we can hear you know, you know,

1890
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 1: you know the sign like you know the sounds like

1891
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 1: he sound like he's he's sound like on the intro

1892
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 1: one love what a bit call him when I call him?

1893
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 1: Look at this mate? You can you hear me? Now? Yeah?

1894
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: Go ahead, listen? Get them ship? Look at the look

1895
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 1: at the look at the spring make a way out

1896
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 1: of no way? Was the substitute way? You know? Now?

1897
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 1: We sounded cool? Now? Yeah? Hello? So, um, what we're

1898
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 1: talking about? What we're talking about? Some m what was

1899
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 1: we talking about? Black business back? Black business owner and

1900
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: in your company for shore for show for shore for show?

1901
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 1: Hey man? Look and then you can go to my

1902
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 1: Instagram right now. I just like to display certain things

1903
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: and show people that I ain't just know you understand me.

1904
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't late like a holiday freight, you

1905
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like I've been on my Entrepreneur

1906
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,680
Speaker 1: by Black, you know Black Excellence just there in the

1907
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: third you know, show, trying to show improve, trying to

1908
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: show people that you can be an entrepreneur at a

1909
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,560
Speaker 1: young age. You know, you gotta stand out. Dare in

1910
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: my in my in my teens, I was like like

1911
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 1: fresh out of nineteen when I had the clothing store

1912
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 1: and called New Fat Clothing. Me and me and d

1913
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 1: Shot And now in fact I was I was eight

1914
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, you know what I'm saying. So me

1915
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 1: and d Shot my brother. We went got a clothing

1916
01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: store on Salano Avenue. We bought we went to the garden,

1917
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 1: the district buck clothes we ordered from. You know, back

1918
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 1: then it was like um carawl can I you know,

1919
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 1: like you know, cross colors, those kind of a lot

1920
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 1: of rayon stuff like jeans, spray painted jeans and and

1921
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 1: what you call them, um different clothes. So he was

1922
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 1: a fashion muggle. Man, I ain't know this part. Yeah,

1923
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,879
Speaker 1: I have a clothing store. I was a young mustache

1924
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 1: from the soil from that ship everybody. Everybody knew it,

1925
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I knew how to

1926
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 1: I knew what I was doing. You know, we had

1927
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 1: we had real fixtures come through there, you know, spend

1928
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 1: money with us and whatnot. It was beautiful and um,

1929
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 1: you know, we just so happened and I take my

1930
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: little bread that I make on that and go walk

1931
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 1: down three four. Okay, so you have you have to clothe.

1932
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 1: You had to check cashing store right next door to us.

1933
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 1: First you had first you had Davenport, they was on

1934
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 1: our left. Then you had had that. Um, that's a

1935
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: that's a that's they do taxes and stuff. They do

1936
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,560
Speaker 1: a lot of some lebrity taxes because he used to

1937
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 1: bring greaters through there and everything to us store. Like

1938
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like wow, you know I'm saying,

1939
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 1: shout out to the white before my in my in,

1940
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 1: my in, my accountant, Keith Towns. You understand here for

1941
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 1: thirty something years, you understand what I'm saying. I'm giving

1942
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 1: me the t straight and not fake. Right. Look, so

1943
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 1: look so then next to the next door to us,

1944
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:23,680
Speaker 1: at New Fair Clothing, we had to check it was

1945
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 1: a check cash and center, right then next to that,

1946
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 1: you understand me, I forgot what was next to that,

1947
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 1: and I forgot to think it was. I don't know.

1948
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a larndry, but I think

1949
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 1: it was like a little I don't know, I don't

1950
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 1: know what that was. But right next to that was

1951
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: rich Arts Barbershot. Okay, then next to next, next next

1952
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 1: to rich Ards Barbershot, it was it was it was

1953
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 1: studio Tone Studio. It was sent to man, I wish

1954
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 1: I could stay. Huh. Pep said that a studio with Tone, Man,

1955
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 1: I wish I could stay. I got holl that matter

1956
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: because we got money to make. Come on, had them beats, man,

1957
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 1: he had them beats. So we go to the studio Tone,

1958
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 1: so student Tone. So I take my little my little

1959
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: bread I made at the clothing store, and I'm gonna

1960
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 1: put a little deposit. Damn right, I say, Tom check gag.

1961
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need like full hours. That's all. Back then,

1962
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 1: that's all I needed was full hours because I had

1963
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: some much gas. I had so much game to release

1964
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 1: because I was a young mustache, you know, and I'm

1965
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 1: going there and knock out three or four songs, you know.

1966
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,799
Speaker 1: So that's how end. You know, we just kept whipping

1967
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 1: the ass. We start beating their asks without the belt,

1968
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, And that's then

1969
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 1: then you start hearing forty and the click. You start

1970
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: hearing about us, you know what I'm saying. So that's

1971
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 1: how that all went in Here I am years later.

1972
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have fat burgers clubs all kind

1973
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 1: of when you stop all kinds of stuff like that. Now,

1974
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm selling a dope beverages. You understand me. I'm you know,

1975
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm into the I'm in forty five different tech companies.

1976
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 1: You understand me. I'm to give it a t straight

1977
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,679
Speaker 1: in our faith. You understand me. You know what I'm saying.

1978
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, there's so many things means I can

1979
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,320
Speaker 1: display to you, but I'm in the food and beverage.

1980
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 1: That's my main thing right now, Food and beverage. You

1981
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 1: feel me. So be on the lookout for the good

1982
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 1: with the Spoon book, you know what I'm saying, A

1983
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: cooking show, good with the Spoon products co packing. Also,

1984
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm involved with the Loompia Company. I'm co owner of

1985
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,600
Speaker 1: the Loompia Company. You can go to the town and

1986
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: find that because we're gonna be co packing that too.

1987
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 1: You'll find that and like your Walmarts and you're you know,

1988
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: understand me, your costcos, your safe Ways and you know

1989
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 1: your your local supermarkets. Man, you understand me. We global.

1990
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna be global, not local. You understand me. So

1991
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna spread that thing. Man. You know they ain't

1992
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: got me started. Man, I'm right now. It's watermelon. You

1993
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 1: should have never gotten started. Man, it's not good to

1994
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: get me started because I talk your year off. You know,

1995
01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm from the bell like to hear myself talk. Hello.

1996
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 1: I need to get some of that watermelon. I need

1997
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 1: to get some of that watermelons. So crazy outside of music, short,

1998
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 1: what kind of stuff are you into? Oh? Man? When

1999
01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I gotta like it's it's uh,

2000
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: it's it's it's just uh, the same thing with everybody else. Man,

2001
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 1: We're just it's just shipped on the table. We just

2002
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: do it. We do it. I can sit here and

2003
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 1: run down the list of what all is going on, man,

2004
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: but I'm taking at the top of the list is

2005
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 1: my Westmore. That's that's what we're working on every day.

2006
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there right now about to push up to Uh,

2007
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 1: I'm about to push over the snoop spot right now.

2008
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 1: We we finalized in the mix on them on the

2009
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 1: last few songs for the first wave, so it's probably

2010
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: gonna be like three four waves. But you know, the

2011
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 1: Westmore is at the top of the list. I can

2012
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: I can get a running down the soda pops and

2013
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 1: merch stuff and the and the and the weed we do.

2014
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 1: We just launched the whole weed line and and you

2015
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 1: know the the we're adding the pre Ruther. I mean,

2016
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 1: the ship goes forever like it's just a hustler, man.

2017
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 1: I I can't really I I don't really like uh,

2018
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't every day I wake up. Man,

2019
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 1: it's like I don't never sit, like for what the

2020
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: shade earl. Don't let the grass grow under your feet.

2021
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: You can the grounds growing to your feet? Man. Yeah, yeah,

2022
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: so that's that's that's that's my style right there. Just

2023
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: never look down and see that grass growing around you. Man.

2024
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 1: We keep it moving, keep it moving, keep keep it hustling, man,

2025
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 1: alright man. Other in other words, the grip, don't quit.

2026
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: M dig that. We appreciate you. But if you do

2027
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 1: want to tap into two short story dot Com. That's cool, man,

2028
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:23,679
Speaker 1: you can you can get a lot of good ship.

2029
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 1: Then at your story. Man. You know what I'm saying

2030
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: is it's a wonderful place to go. Get you, get

2031
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 1: you a bit buddy, shout out. Hey, we're gonna we're

2032
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: gonna hit We're gonna we're gonna let y'all get going.

2033
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: In a second, we're gonna hit you with some quick hitters.

2034
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 1: First thing to come to mind, answer Jack, take it.

2035
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 1: If you guys put together dream Team Tour. In addition

2036
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 1: to yourselves, name three artists a group past the present

2037
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:54,680
Speaker 1: that would be with you that you bring along. Um,

2038
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 1: I say one of you say one short all right, Uh,

2039
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say you said the group to. I'm gonna

2040
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 1: say to click Okay, I'm gonna take Snoop Dogg to

2041
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 1: dog Pound. I'm gonna pull up. I'm gonna take my

2042
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 1: guys what I got right now. I'm gonna call I

2043
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 1: just the niggas to sell out, and I'm gonna call

2044
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 1: you forty. We're gonna get up out of here, keep pushing, man,

2045
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna sell out everywhere we go. Easy money.

2046
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:19,439
Speaker 1: I think we don't really need no I'm not trying

2047
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 1: to sound arrogant, but I think I mean, come on, man,

2048
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 1: you got you got four of your favorite rappers that

2049
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 1: can really pack. We can pack the house easily. A

2050
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:30,560
Speaker 1: few times, we could do two shows at night. I

2051
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 1: really feel that way. You got Eve forty. You've got

2052
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: no particular order. We're gonna get order. We got fucking

2053
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 1: we got Snoopy Dog. I call it stupper dog. Track

2054
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 1: me up because when I was in that amsterdamn some

2055
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,559
Speaker 1: some cats came up to me, some some Asian guys.

2056
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 1: They was like, snoopy dog, snoopy Dog. I'm like, I'm

2057
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 1: not snoop Dog. What's What's what's up? What's the next?

2058
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 1: What's the next? One? Next question is who in the

2059
01:44:56,840 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 1: game right now? Young rapper? One young rapper each, y'all.

2060
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 1: You know we're checking four right now. One young rapper

2061
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to see come up. Man is my

2062
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 1: little hometown home. He gap Dad Man. I recently worked

2063
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: with him gab Dad thousand and uh. And I like

2064
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: his work empic. I like his its momentum building and stuff.

2065
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:19,120
Speaker 1: You know, he from the town. Man. What's open? Man?

2066
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 1: I wish your brother a lot of success, Man, because

2067
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 1: he's real talented, you know, and he's doing good. Ain't

2068
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:25,839
Speaker 1: doing real good, so you know, shout out to the hometown.

2069
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 1: If you guys played three on three, excuse me, if

2070
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 1: you guys put together at three or three basketball against

2071
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 1: each other, who would be on your teams? But if

2072
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 1: y'all picked the three or three squads for as Rappers

2073
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 1: are like real basketball players, basketball players, and we were

2074
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: and we was the coach. Yep, you gotta pick three

2075
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 1: players each. Okay, I got mine, I got I got

2076
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, I got killing out Warriors. Man, hold on, man,

2077
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Speaker 1: back up like a scrap. I got Steph Curry, ever Durrant,

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Speaker 1: and we gotta have some defense too. We gotta have

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Speaker 1: some defense. Well, they got defense too, and Clay Thompson.

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Speaker 1: Fuck it, we're good. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: to Warriors, I'm sorry. You know, I'm sorry. But that's

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Speaker 1: what it is. It is. Come on, who's gonna argue

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Speaker 1: with that? Who got a project? That? What you got

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Speaker 1: shot with that? I just if you're gonna go get

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Speaker 1: lights out and just everybody just shoot your life oute,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to just go get huh. I need

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Speaker 1: like three players that like fight really good because we

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Speaker 1: don't have to get out there and roughing boys. Ain't

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Speaker 1: even thinking like offense, man, we're thinking like just just

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Speaker 1: all fucking fouls and shady ship that shut down defense man.

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Speaker 1: We got shutting boys down. Man. You know you know,

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Speaker 1: you know it. I'm I'm gonna go. I'm I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go get a h like I always uh, I always

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Speaker 1: gotta roll with name Lily Man. That's my guy. Man.

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Speaker 1: I love this game. Damn see, they gotta give me more.

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Speaker 1: They gotta give me more more than just they just

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Speaker 1: gave me three. I love this game. I'm biases. I'm

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Speaker 1: a warrior, that's all. But I love Dann Man. That's

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Speaker 1: that boy vicious in the vocal booth and on the

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Speaker 1: and on the court. Hello, yes, sir short like that there,

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Speaker 1: um um, I would say a D two man because

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Speaker 1: he's uh down there. Your your team is stacking up

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Speaker 1: pretty well. Yeah yeah. And I need like a like

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Speaker 1: a bully man. I need like a like a um

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Speaker 1: like a like a sharp sharp sharp shooter, like like

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Speaker 1: like one of them boys don't like Milwaukee or something

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Speaker 1: man like a Middleton and like somebody who knock knocked

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Speaker 1: down shots and got like a little little little girl,

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Speaker 1: you know, d go take them forty. You can't be

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Speaker 1: just picking out a warrior all stars, man, Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: we're just trying to make this interet alright, So look,

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Speaker 1: who should we have on all the smoke rapper wise?

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Speaker 1: It gotta be somebody I have access to. Gotta be

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Speaker 1: somebody you have excess. I want to hear from Jigger.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear with jigger. Okay, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Hit him up short? You can be able to hit

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Speaker 1: him up short. I don't have no jig none of that,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna be able to help you with

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Speaker 1: that part. I just say that would be great to see.

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Speaker 1: I got number love for Jacob, I really do for

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Speaker 1: Jay Z for I sincerely do absolutely hook us up short.

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Speaker 1: But you got short man, Jake. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: you call it. Get in touch with Jay Man, I

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Speaker 1: don't know who you You probably get a Texas call

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Speaker 1: in through Beyonce and yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna hear

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Speaker 1: bunt up see if he can make it happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you go to te go to Texas round getting there?

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Speaker 1: Quicker um man? Uh? Who who should you get like,

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Speaker 1: for real, have y'all had killing Mike? It? No, uh,

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Speaker 1: killing Mike. He got a lot of game and he

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Speaker 1: got a lot of like, he got like a lot

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Speaker 1: of right now you know, opinions and logic and ship.

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Speaker 1: So that's who I would say, killing Mike. That's a

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Speaker 1: really good call, hey man. But we appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: this time. Man, we lost track of time. I think

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Speaker 1: we've been doing this for like two hours. But man, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you all. Man. Best to luck with Mount Westmore.

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Speaker 1: We can't wait to hear it. Be a part of it. Man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you all. That's a rap special episode with Living

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