1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Wind Down and radio podcast bonus episode, We got our girls, Sarah, 2 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: you're back. Um, okay, so, um, we're gonna get to 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: your wedding and stuff. But I feel like we should 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: save all of that for Monday's episode, don't you think so? 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: I think we should keep him waiting a little bit. Um, 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: keep them waiting on that, because I think, Um, do 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: you know how many people? I don't know, Sarah if 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: you listen to the last episode, But Michael and I 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: got into a fight about a shelf, and so I 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: asked it really wasn't about the shelf, you know, but 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: I asked some people about like what they thought, and 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: you know it was because I asked a lot of questions. 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: Do you ask questions or no, no, you're not a question? 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Does I ask questions? Oh? He does? Okay, so it's reversed. 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: And so do you get annoyed when he asked questions? Yeah, 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: you're just like, yeah, I try, but I'm very conscious 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: of it, Like I know that I get snappy, so 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: I try to not and then I just end up 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: ignoring him. But that doesn't work because then he keeps 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: asking over and over and over again. Um, someone just 21 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: goes uh. I completely understand both sides, but mainly Jannah side, 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: it's it's because I'm guilty of doing the same thing. 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: I question what my boyfriend does all the time when 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: it comes to handiwork or cooking or something I'm used 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: to do. She goes, I'm used to doing all of 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: the handiwork, so when he does it, I question him constantly. 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: I think it's an anxiety that I have about not 28 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: being in control. Since quarantine, we moved into a new apartment. 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: We had to put up all the shelves and mirrors, 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: and we've been fighting constantly about it. I think even 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: when I'm just curious, he goes into defense mode and 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: thinks I'm questioning his capability. You're not the only one 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: that this quarantine has been rough, you know. But I 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: will What I will defend on her side is she said, 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: he's normally the one that does the handywork and cooks, 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: So I can understand that a little bit more. I 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: can understand if you know I was doing something that's 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: in your realm and you're asking me questions, But when 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: you're questioning something that you wouldn't do, that's more in 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: my world. That's where I'm like trust my judgment. I'm 41 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: not going to steer you wrong. I'm not someone else 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: because I'm laughing so hard this week's podcast, I saw 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: my husband repeats things that I say to him in 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: the bitchiest voice, and I get so frustrated because in 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: my mind it was a normal comment and he filters 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: it so mean. And I love this. I love that 47 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: that comments so much because it's so true, because I 48 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: feel like when we say things you like the filter 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: that you guys filter our voices. It's like, oh, and 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: you guys don't do that to us. I will literally 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: be like, I'm gonna put my phone over there and 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: record the next hour because your delusional the way you talk. 53 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I never said that. He's like, no, I'm 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: doing it. He always is, like, God, I wish I 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: could just follow you around again. I've referenced this book 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: a thousand times now, but the Love and Respect Book 57 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: he even starts by talking about how women here and 58 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: see through a pink filter, and men here and see 59 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: through a blue filter, so we just here and see 60 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: things differently and pink and blue. I'm not being sexist 61 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: or gender whatever, it's just the way the example he 62 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: uses these whatever colors you want out there. I see 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: through about like a black filter. But it's just you're feeling, 64 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: and so you filter things differently. Even though I mean 65 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: we say that, we both try to say that the 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: other one was like passive attitude, and when we say it, 67 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: we're like, no, I said it like like this. Like 68 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: I was totally just like, oh my gosh, what are 69 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: you doing when I heard, like what are you doing myself? 70 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait, I need to I'm gonna lie 71 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: right now and I'm gonna do a different voice, even 72 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: though I know I didn't say it in that voice, 73 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: but I'm like, no, I didn't. I actually said it 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: like this, and I'm like, you're such a liar. It's 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: so funny though, because but I do feel a lot 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: of times you don't know your harsh tone. So like 77 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to something, you'll say no, and to 78 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: you that means no, but you say it no. You're 79 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: way more of a direct person than I am, so 80 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it about tone. You. Yes, 81 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: I can say yes today because I am more direct, 82 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: but I feel like you should know my intention, just 83 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: like it's totally it's a double standard. I'm calling it 84 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: out right now, I'm a I'm a thousand percent double 85 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: standarding it. I want you to be softer, but yet 86 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: I can say no, a total double standard. Someone just 87 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: goes I'd have to say, I'm team Mike on this one. 88 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm over time. Being overly inquisitive can make it 89 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: appear as though you don't trust his ability to complete tasks. 90 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I know that's how I would feel if I was 91 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: constantly being questioned. It's one thing if he's showing you 92 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: how to do something that you may do yourself in 93 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: the future. Um, but if he's completing a task that 94 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: you're not assisting with or need to do in the future, 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: there's no point in asking whoever that is okay? No, 96 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: I agree. I did ask for um some people to 97 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: sending some questions too, and uh, I'm curious to see 98 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: if anyone came through. So we're on our wind Down podcast. 99 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: Um it's the wind Down Podcast Instagram. If you guys 100 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: have any questions, just um email not into our d M. Yeah, 101 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: if you guys have any questions, just d M s 102 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: at the wind Down Podcast. It's up and running. We're 103 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: going back through old episodes and please d ms wind 104 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: down podcast. Um, someone just says hit me up on 105 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: my fake Instagram Michael c cost someone. Uh, I guess 106 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: that's when you know you've made it. Huh Oh, there's 107 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: a fake you out there or is it really his? Is? 108 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking it's funny, like why why why me? Hey? 109 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Someone just goes because you're nothing. Don't say you're nothing, 110 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: You're everything. How do you maintain connections with your extended 111 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: friends in the area because of the situation. How do 112 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: you maintain your therapy sessions in these times? Do you 113 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 1: continue to practice the skills you have learned already? Rob, 114 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: We just skyped our therapist yesterday, which I think went 115 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: really well. Yeah, it was great. I was supposed to 116 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: have individual therapy last night and I was like, hey man, 117 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: we had a great couple of session, which isn't the 118 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: reason not to have an individual but we just met 119 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: last week, so should we tell them what we learned 120 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: in therapy yesterday? Yes, do tell it. It is on 121 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: this topic. Actually it would help in situations. It's very 122 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: much on this topic. And we told a couple of 123 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: therapists about the shelf argument, so our therapists actually this 124 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: goes along with it. Um, gave us a really good 125 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: thing that we can do next time when we're in 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: that shelf argument. So for all the people that are 127 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: maybe asking questions are really connected to this week's podcast, UM, 128 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: this is maybe how they can deal with it. Do 129 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: you want to tell them? Make sure? So he um 130 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: gave us the idea to create characters for this other 131 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: part of ourselves. So for Janna, the the inquisitive part 132 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: of her personality that asked questions like oh is this 133 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: gonna like for the shelf thing like is this gonna 134 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: is it sturdy enough? Is this yeah? The part of 135 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: her that's just genuinely curious, that doesn't have any strategic 136 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: reason behind the question. UM. I thought of that as 137 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: being like tweety bird. So if we're in the middle 138 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: of something and I'm working on a project in Joanna, 139 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: I started to ask me a question or two, and 140 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: I start to get heightened and I want to feel defensive. 141 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: I can be like, Hey, is this tweety bird or 142 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: is there something behind this? Like are you just asking? 143 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: Because it's just you're curious and it's just you just 144 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: being like a little bird flying around my head, just 145 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: like Hey, what's that? What's that? What's this, dude? What's 146 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: that get in my head? Right? Um? Or is it 147 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: Janna who has some feelings behind something and is asking 148 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: for a reason. So she says, no, this is tweete 149 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: birds like, all right, yeah, so then he won't get up, 150 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: he won't get as, he won't be defensive, yeah, because 151 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't think there's an ulterior motive behind it. And 152 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: then on my side, it's my character is the negative 153 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: side of me. So you know, if we start to 154 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: have a conversation and she feels me getting heightened her defensive, 155 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: she can be like, hey, you know what I'm seeing 156 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: is so I'm like the Tasmanian devil. So I'm like, 157 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: are you being tas right now? So he can check himself. 158 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: And but it's like a funny way to like see 159 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: these cartoon characters instead of her saying why are you 160 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: being defensive? Or stop being defensive, because it's just like 161 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: as soon as she says stop being defensive, I'm like, 162 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm not being defensive. I'm only defensive because you're calling 163 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: me defensive. So really we're looking forward to using that 164 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: um in the next time this comes up, because I 165 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: really do think it'll help, especially I know in my 166 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: situation for her not to say stop being defensive or 167 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: why are you being defensive? For her being like, hey, 168 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting like tazz right now? Are is that you? 169 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: Or so I can be I can check myself or 170 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: I can be like, oh no, I'm sorry if my 171 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: just energy was up a little bit, but no, let 172 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: me bring it back down. Yeah, so we that was 173 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: a that was a good thing that we learned. Um, 174 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: but yeah, have you have you and t I gotten 175 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: into any quarantine riffs at all? Or I mean I 176 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: feel like you guys don't fight at all, But I mean, 177 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: is there anything that's kind of like been bugging youre 178 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, I so I've been fine honestly because 179 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm such an introvert that like, I don't really I'm 180 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: living a normal life. I don't really like to leave 181 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: my house any ways. And I think that that's annoying 182 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: him because multiple times he'll say he said it to 183 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: me multiple times. I feel like you're like okay with this, 184 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: Like I feel like you're not going crazy because he's 185 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: going crazy. He has to be out of the house 186 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: all day, like he doesn't do well in this And 187 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: I am reading books, I'm watching all my shows, Like 188 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: we don't have kids, so you know, I'm I'm for 189 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: the most part, I'm still cooking, I'm still cleaning, like 190 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: I do that anyways. For him, So my life besides 191 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: the fact that I haven't seen anyone from the outside world, 192 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: isn't that crazy? But that really bothers him that it 193 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: that I'm okay, And so he keeps getting snappy with me, 194 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: being like, why is this not bothering you? Like what 195 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: you're used to this, Like you don't even care, And 196 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, calm down, Like I know that this is 197 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: hard for you, but that's really been the most thing. 198 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: It's hard for him, and he just takes it out 199 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: and get snappy. I'm with you. I could be high. 200 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: I could hibernate like a bear right now. Literally, you 201 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: don't even leave the bed with your I pad And 202 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that's because that's where I feel the 203 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: safest in with my iPad watching my shows. I can 204 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: read my books and watch my shows on my iPad. 205 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: Like and it's he's he's he's also I mean like 206 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Tie is very much like me. He's very he's high, strong, 207 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: he's got really he's got a lot of anxiety, and 208 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: he's he's guys casting his anxieties out on you because 209 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: he's so anxious and uncomfortable. So I'm doing what I 210 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: can to make him feel better. We've been going on 211 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: bike rides and walks, and right now in Colorado, Colorado, 212 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: so right before l A like or the California issued 213 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: like the stay at home whatever, what's it called stay 214 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: at home? We had left like four hours earlier and 215 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: we're literally on our way and it's like we got 216 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: the notification. So we just were planning on getting out 217 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: because he gets sick really easily. He has a really 218 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: bad immune system, and there was a bunch of cases 219 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: where we lived in l A. And so we were like, 220 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: let's just get out because he was really things like 221 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: this keep him up late at night. Like he's very 222 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: very and we are. We're all scared. We're all petrified, 223 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: but I try and think of other things and this 224 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: is really a lot. This isn't its head a lot? 225 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: For sure. Well, I'm glad that you recognize you know 226 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: his uh, you know what's what's happening. And you guys, 227 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: you guys are going to be just fine because you're newlyweds. 228 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: But hey, are we have a special guest for this 229 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: week's surprise episode. So let's take a break and then 230 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: let's bring our special guest on check one too. Hey, sorry, 231 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: my wife is taking care of our daughter right now. 232 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: She's this is her screen time. While Oh that's more, 233 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: that's more important. I can always call it back later. No, 234 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: you're good, You're good, You're good. How you doing, man, 235 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm good. How about yourself? Man, can't complain, you know, 236 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: just trying to stay safe like everybody else. Yeah, yeah, 237 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: well you know, at least it only requires us staying 238 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: at home. Right, Oh my goodness, Hello, Michael, do you 239 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: want to do the intro? Since you're you're the biggest 240 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: fan on earth and we got this is a second 241 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: time now being exactly being amazed. Alright, So Janna namy 242 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: and everyone's decided to surprise me again with our boys, 243 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: Sean Stockman from Boyson Man. So give it up for 244 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: Sean guarantee. Are you in your pajamas? Yeah? I am 245 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: that he isn't read polos on man. I mean you're 246 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: just living your best life right now. Just in in 247 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: your in yourbating suit, in your pj's all day. I mean, 248 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: what else is there to do? Listen, I haven't shaved 249 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: in about two weeks. It's like, you know, yeah, I 250 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: just did yesterday because I couldn't take it anymore. I'll 251 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: try to keep it going. I reached my point. I 252 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just I'm just I'm just going, you know, 253 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: I'll match around, man, like, you know, just kind of whatever. 254 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: How old are the kids again? How old are the 255 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: kids again? My kids? My my boys are sixteen, they're twins, 256 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: and my daughter's ten. So are you doing the homeschooling? 257 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: I am? And it is frustrating? So okay, yeah, so 258 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: how do you? How are you doing that? Because I 259 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: was just we're just talking about it, like our daughter. 260 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: It's just it can be very frustrating because I'll tell 261 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: her and then she says it right, but then two 262 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: seconds later, I'll point to the letter of the number 263 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: and then she'll say a different one. I'm like, you 264 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: just said it a second ago. Well, well here's my issue. Um, 265 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a PC guy, right, So, UM, I use 266 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: Apple computers. You know, most singers and artists, we all 267 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: were Apple people. So our school hands us all all 268 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: the students these PC computers right where we have to 269 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: log on and get my daughter's lessons. You know, she's 270 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: in the fourth grade, So a lot of the tabs 271 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: and the steps. You gotta click on this and gotta 272 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: go to this, and then go to that, and then 273 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: when you see that, you gotta click this document and 274 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: then you gotta hit that, and then you gotta and 275 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: just that alone. There's no muscle memory. You're learning the 276 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: whole thing systems. It is annoying, is all hell and 277 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: and and then it's a lot of work. So I'm 278 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: doing the homework. I'm literally you know what I mean, Like, 279 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, my daughter is writing this stuff down, but 280 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm literally walking it through because she gets frustrated because 281 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: she's like, you know, I want to play roadblocks with 282 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: my friends, and and I'm like, until, yeah, yeah, me too. 283 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: I got call of duty, like right behind, like listen, 284 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: I gotta you know what I mean, Like, listen, this 285 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: is what I want to do, you know what I mean. 286 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, So I find myself doing homework 287 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: literally for two hours, three hours a day because of 288 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: the workloads. So you know, my wife and I were 289 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: frustrated because we're calling the teacher from home and we're 290 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: texting there and we're like, yo, we don't understand what 291 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: this is that so she's walking us through it. Yo, 292 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: God bless the teachers absolutely really don't understand how much 293 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: they go through until you have to home school and 294 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: you're like, whoa, what are they going back? Right? Right, 295 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a celebration paid. Yeah, done the school 296 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: years over, especially in California like that. You know, the 297 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: governor basically said it's it's a rap superintendent, and you 298 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: know L A U. S D. There's basically like it's over, 299 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: so you know, we'll be homeschooling. So fortunately a spring 300 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: break so there's no homework now. Yeah, man, but yeah, 301 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: it's it's been. It's spend nuts. Guys, you're not the 302 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: only ones. You're not alone. Well, I just go back 303 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: because our four year old is just I mean, I'm 304 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: trying to just you know, it's just four, so it's 305 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: it wouldn't sound like we're learning math and multiplication at 306 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: the same time, Like, how do you not know that's 307 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: a it's a you say they say through Z that's 308 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: a right, right, and that's why are you calling it 309 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: K It's not that you don't know the answer, it's 310 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: you have to make sure that they understand the why so, yeah, 311 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: why so you have to go into a teacher mode 312 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: that I don't know how to teach. You know what 313 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I just know it four plus four is eight. 314 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: It is because but but because that's why it is. 315 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: Because that's why. And I've got it's frustrated to say 316 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: because even with multiplication, how I learned multiplication, kid was memorizing. 317 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: I didn't have to do the common Core where you 318 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: had to get six apples and the four pas in 319 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: the pod and then you know, three bananas and you 320 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: gotta put this together and then you gotta switch it, 321 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: and then you gotta do it in some sort of 322 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: weird like it's crazy. No, six times four four, that's it. 323 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: They're complicating it with all this new stuff. I just 324 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: pray that this does not come around when it hits 325 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: that age because I'm like them out because I don't 326 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: even know my Oh no, it's gonna it's gonna be 327 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: even crazier when they get older. I can't even help 328 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: my sons with their homework, Like they're learning like stuff 329 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't even learn in high school. So 330 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, you guys. So he has a 331 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: tutor and he basically buries his face and he's a 332 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: good student, thank god. But like I'm like, I can't 333 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: even help him, Like I can't even help him. Right, 334 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: he's teaching you, Yeah, I'm use so when you're not 335 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: dealing with the kids and all that stuff. I know 336 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: you got your your solo album right forward coming out Friday. 337 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: Is that correct? That's awesome? Congratulations. Do you professionally, do 338 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: you think this is a is beneficial to the business 339 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: of because of the quarantine or do you think it's 340 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: not affecting music in any way? I hate to say it, 341 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: but yes, I think, you know, the music business is 342 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: not suffering because now people are able to stay home 343 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: and discover new things musically, like music. The music business 344 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: and Netflix are kicking right now because there's, yeah, there's 345 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: nothing else to do but sit at home watch documentaries. 346 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: I just saw Tiger King. We're about to start it. 347 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can. I don't know. It's 348 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: it's bananas, it's it's it's good. I'll give you one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 349 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: Tiger King is crazy, is crazy. But okay, I gotta 350 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: I gotta finish that I gotta I'm finishing the third 351 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: season of Stranger Things. I'm way behind. Yeah, And and 352 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: again you get to watch Netflix and Prime Video and 353 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: discover music. So I hate to say it, but it's 354 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: to my advantage that I'm releasing a record at this 355 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: time because people will get an actual chance to sit 356 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: and listen to it. And this is the type of 357 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: album that I created it and my attention behind it. 358 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: I didn't want to reinvent the wheel. I wanted to 359 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: create good soul for music that you can play in 360 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: environments such as this. And it's a perfect backdrop. So 361 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: if you're doing homework with your kids, or if you're 362 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: cooking dinner, or if you're preparing certain things, or just 363 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of sitting around lounge and you can play my 364 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: album and it's not intrude in any way, shape or form. 365 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: It's just good music behind your ears. And and that's 366 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: all I wanted to create. That's amazing. I I always 367 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: have music on when I'm cooking in the kitchen, so 368 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: Friday is definitely gonna be listening to Forward as I'm cooking. 369 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: Then I gotta playing a good meal Friday. Then while 370 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm while I'm cooking that there you go, and I 371 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: had to look out for the couples like yourselves. I 372 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: did create a nice little sexy red man. When the 373 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: kids go to sleep and you want to create, you know, 374 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: procreate some more so, Sarah's trying to make a quarantine baby, 375 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: so she's sean, Are there are there any any tracks 376 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: on that album that maybe stand above the rest. I'm 377 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: sure all of them are are fantastic, but maybe just 378 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: some that hit home to to you personally a little 379 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: bit more. Well. There there Um is a song that 380 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: I kind of it's based on a true story or 381 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: inspired by a true story, in the sense of it's 382 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: not necessarily all true, but it's the intent behind it 383 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: created the story for me. And sometimes when I write songs, 384 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: I it's not always my personal experiences, but what I 385 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: might have seen someone else go through, and I put 386 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: myself in it. There's a an acoustic song called Don't 387 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: Spare My Heart where um, it's literally talking about a 388 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: guy you know, who's doing the typical guy thing, which 389 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: is basically busy with so many other things except the relationship, 390 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: and it's gotten so much, so bad, to the point 391 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: where the woman is just fed up. But she wants 392 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: to leave. So the chorus is basically, don't spare my heart, 393 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: tell me everything, rip me apart with all your truths. 394 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: We know we're at the point of now or never. 395 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: If you still care, please don't spare my heart. Basically saying, 396 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: tell me everything because I don't want you to go 397 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: tell me everything that I did, every bad thing, that 398 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: everything I neglected, whatever, because I need to hear the truth, 399 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: no matter how painful it is. So don't spare me. 400 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, tell me everything because I 401 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: want this to work out. How many times have you 402 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: basically said that to me? I've lost I can't wait 403 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: to listen. I don't spare my heart. Please. Yeah, that's it. 404 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: That's amazing. So that so that's one that sticks out 405 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: for me. That's awesome. Well, I hope everyone goes out 406 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: and takes advantage of this time to really dive, dive 407 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: deep into that. And are you still going to be 408 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: doing any tour stuff later this year? I mean, I 409 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: know a lot of stuff is pushed back, but are 410 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: you and the boys going back out or I mean 411 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: as soon as we can. Um, you know, I just 412 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: talked to my manager yesterday and the way it looks, man, 413 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: and this is kind of daunting, but you know, it 414 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: is what it is for people to really feel comfortable 415 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: and safe. I don't see us going out back out 416 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: until maybe September. Yeah, I've heard, I've heard August September, 417 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, Sean. I'm sure you're a sports 418 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: fan as well, and you know watching all this stuff 419 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: and just you know, every day they're they're playing with 420 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: these theories of you know, these bio almost bio city 421 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: where just athletes are in there and they just play 422 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: games with no fans and all this off. And I 423 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: understand the idea behind getting sports back on television, but 424 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: all it takes is one person to get sick and 425 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: it blows up everything. And so it's like, why is 426 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: it even worth, like you're talking about with the Torrent, 427 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: It's like, until people feel safe, why even do that? 428 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: What's what's the rush? Don't you know exactly? Well? I urge, yeah, 429 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: I urge everybody to just stay home because the truth is, 430 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: we still really don't know what this virus is. Like, 431 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: there's still new things coming out. A lot of people said, oh, 432 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: your animals can't get it. Just yesterday my wife told 433 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: me that it was a cat in New York, a tiger. 434 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Tiger has the coronavirus. So it's it's it's not. It's 435 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: still very very much in its early stage as far 436 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: as like what the virus is let alone, it's so 437 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: many unknown. So the best thing for all of us 438 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: to do is to just sit at home and just 439 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: buy the Forward album and just one. There's a repeat. 440 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: There's a repeat button for a reason, there is play 441 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: it again. I mean, you're an artist. It's you know, 442 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: true and true because you just you know, circled that 443 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: all up and wrapped it together in a little tiny bow. 444 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I love that so much. And everyone go 445 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: get your album on Friday, and um, I want to help. 446 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: That's that's the best thing you can do. I mean, 447 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: you're your your your soulful, Your music is amazing. Um, 448 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: you're an incredible artist and I'm really excited to listen 449 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: to your music on your album that comes out on Friday, 450 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: and just see my handsome husband cook and going to 451 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: bed to me. You're awesome. You know what I'm saying, 452 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: Hey man, you know, just use it accordingly. You know 453 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: you feel me absolutely absolutely, Sean. We appreciate your time 454 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: as always, brother, it will always be a surprise to 455 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: me to talk to you. So thank you so much 456 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: for taking time out of your day. Man, good to 457 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: see you. Thank you bye. All right, Oh, make love 458 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: to you like you want me to. Boys to Men 459 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: Dave's happening. It's like a cup of coffee. Man, I'm 460 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: re energized right now. He loves voice to men like obsessed. 461 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: Did you did you even intro him as being a 462 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: part of the Boys to Men? Yeah? He did? Okay, 463 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: I think I'm like, it don't even matter. He's just 464 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: if you don't know, you don't deserve to like your 465 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: little bonus episode surprised. But I mean, you guys get 466 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: me every time, and it's amazing. And like I said, 467 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: it'll always be a surprise to be able to talk 468 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: to him. And he's been so super sweet to us, 469 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: and you just want to be down on bended knees. 470 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: And I should have gotten this game or tag so 471 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: we can play Call of Duty or something together. You 472 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: missed it, babe, I can I can get Jane slide 473 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: into his d M. I'd be like, Hi, this is 474 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: actually not hey, my husband wants to know what your 475 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: game tag is that's funny. Hey, let's do a couple 476 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: of emails, actually not emails, their d M s. Now, 477 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: let's do that. If you d M d M s 478 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: at the Wine Down podcast, Um, you can find us 479 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: there and d M s. And we're going to read 480 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: some dams today. So, UM, we have How long did 481 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: it take for you guys to have Jolie? My husband 482 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: and I've been married for two years and I finally 483 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: starting to try. I don't want to get my hopes 484 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: at but I'm also hoping it doesn't take forever. And 485 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: this is actually you know, for Sarah too, because I 486 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: know you're going to be trying or trying right now. Um. 487 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: For us, it took us a while. UM had some 488 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: fertility issues and I wouldn't have known about that if 489 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: I didn't get an HSG done, which is basically a 490 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: test that your gynecologists can do. They flush your fallopian 491 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: tubes to see if your Filippian tubes are blocked. UM 492 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: and mine. It doesn't hurt, Sarah, Um, I see your face. 493 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't. Um, you know, it doesn't. It doesn't. Yeah, 494 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't, it doesn't hurt. They just put this little 495 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: die in there and and it Basically what I saw 496 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: was that, yeah, one of my tubes was blocked, and 497 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: they're like, you're not going to be able to get pregnant. 498 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: And I just remember being just like so devastated, and 499 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: what I have done hystoscopy hysteroscopy to remove the scarring um. 500 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: And then when we were doing that, we were also 501 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: doing I was like, all right, well let's do some 502 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: IVF and get some eggs out. And yeah, long story short, 503 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Um got pregnant. Lost. But then the next cycle we 504 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: had Joe, so UM it kind of all um worked 505 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: out there. But you know, it's it's some people get 506 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: pregnant really easy, some people don't. And so I would 507 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: just say to those trying, there's no there's no good 508 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: time to get pregnant. And if you think that you're 509 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: gonna plan it out perfectly, you're not like that. There's 510 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: like a one percent of you actually planning it out. 511 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: It's a lot harder to get pregnant, um than you think. Mike, 512 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: you have an email or a D this is yeah, 513 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: this is a D m Um. It's just from she 514 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: said Canadian Girl. The title is Nudity on TV. I've 515 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: been married for a few years and recently had our 516 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: second baby three months ago, and I'm slowly making my 517 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: way back to my babyweight, oh to my pre baby weeight. 518 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: My husband and I have a very healthy and strong 519 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: marriage with no infidelity, but I can't help to feel 520 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: jealous and insecure when nudity comes on TV and the movies. 521 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a jealous person begin with, but when nudity 522 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: comes on, I feel upset that my husband is looking 523 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: at another woman. I've mentioned this to him. He's and 524 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: he was so incredibly great at saying that he isn't 525 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: a twelve year old boy who gets excited when he 526 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: sees a naked girl. How do I get over my 527 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: own insecurities? Shannah? Do you feel this way about nudity? Mike? 528 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: Is my husband being sincere when he says the nudity 529 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: doesn't excite him? So for my part of the question, um, yes, 530 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: he is being sincere, And especially with you guys having 531 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: no infidelity issues or anything like that, he, I mean, 532 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: even me with our history and you know the title 533 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: of being in recovery for sex addiction, seeing something on 534 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: TV isn't taboo, if that makes sense, And a lot 535 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: of you know, the addiction side is things that are 536 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: that are not public. Now it's it's all about secret 537 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: everything with like addictions secret, like no matter what kind 538 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: of addiction. So that's there's nothing out of the ordinary 539 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: for that. So that's never for me personally, never done anything. 540 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if I know a man that it 541 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: necessarily gets him excited or anything like that. It's just 542 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: you're watching a movie. It's part of culture and it's different. Yeah, 543 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: and I feel like a lot of time, I mean, actually, 544 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: I guess girls are different. I'm gonna say a lot 545 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: of times, I guess they do show boobs like you 546 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: can show radar, you can show boobs, because I'm like, 547 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: what kind of nudity. But I guess like sex scenes 548 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: she can do like a full frontal. I mean, there 549 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: are definitely some scenes that I've gotten uncomfortable and um, 550 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: just because it's a trigger from the past. But I 551 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: usually do a good job just being like I feel 552 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: unomfortable or can we fast forward this part or yeah, 553 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: and I share those feelings with you when we're together. 554 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: And honestly, even I've noticed myself doing that and this 555 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: is just completely being completely honest. Um, watching things on 556 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: Netflix and if there's a scene that comes up, I 557 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: guess excene or whatever, and it's going on longer than 558 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: it really needs to. I hit the little you know, 559 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: thirty seconds fast forward. And that's just because I'm uncomfortable too. 560 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's bad to sit there and watch. 561 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything anyone has to do, but just 562 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: that's just me. I've noticed that I've gotten more uncomfortable, 563 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: and I think it's out of the issues that Jan 564 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: and I have dealt with. I'm like, uh, I don't 565 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't really need to be watching this. Yeah, I 566 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: don't need this. I get the point. Okay, there, I 567 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: get the point. Move on. You know, I'm not in 568 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: it to watch it for that. So yeah, I mean 569 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: I think we all agree. In sex scenes, I'm usually like, okay, 570 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: that was moving on. Yeah, right, it's okay. Yeah, I'm 571 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: going off of what you just said about sex addiction. 572 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: Someone um DM just saying my question is about how 573 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: to best support a family member who's struggling with sex addiction. 574 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: My brother in law has just recently told my husband 575 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: UM and I that he's a sex addict. He's going 576 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: to therapy and taking steps to recovery. My husband and 577 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: I have made it clear to him that we are 578 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: proud of him for facing this and we are here 579 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: to support him through this. Mike and Jannah, do you 580 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: have any advice on um? What are some ways that 581 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: we can support him during this time? Specifically, I'm curious 582 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: how to support him when he's not my significant other, 583 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: so I know he's not going to tell me everything 584 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: or it's easier to lie to us about things. But 585 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: from a family's members standpoint, Mike, what are some things 586 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: your family or friends did to help support you? That's 587 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: a good question. That's a really good question. I feel like, 588 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: especially during now, during like quarantine, I got addiction is 589 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: like ten times harder for people to be dealing well. 590 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: And I'm sure maybe a porn addiction too is even 591 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: just yeah, I'm saying, stuck at home. Yeah, all of it. Um, 592 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: that's actually a really good question. And my answer to 593 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: that is actually ask him questions. Oh interesting, So from 594 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: a man who doesn't like questions, ask you questions. It 595 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: all comes yeah yeah, yeah. Um. The reason I say 596 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: that is because as someone in in a program, and 597 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: in that program, when I've been more moved, when I've 598 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: had friends or family ask me about it, and you 599 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: almost want to talk about it too. I do, only 600 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: because then it kind of normalizes it more. It's probably 601 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: therapeutic for Yeah, And it's not that I want to. 602 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to vent to my friends or my 603 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: family about it because it's they're not there for that. 604 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not going to unload on them with 605 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: things that they might not understand. But by them asking questions, 606 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: it allows me to feel more comfortable with who I am, 607 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: and I don't feel like I have to make up 608 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: stories that they're a shamed or there they think it's 609 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: years or they don't understand or so ask him questions 610 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: to know that you're truly there for him and that 611 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: you're interested in helping and that he can talk to 612 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: you about it. Because I'm not just gonna start talking 613 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: to friends or family about it that haven't said anything, 614 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: you know. But but those friends and family members that 615 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: have asked questions, I feel more comfortable around them, And 616 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: I almost feel like a lot of times too, you're like, hey, 617 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: I kind of want to say something so that they 618 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: know that they can ask me questions. And then it's 619 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: not uncomfortable because and so I don't know I feel 620 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: like the people that if you're friends that you have 621 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: talked to, you all have a greater understanding and a 622 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: greater um. It just seems like a stronger relationship. YEA. 623 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: From an outsider's point of view, it is. I mean, 624 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: even some of my closest buddies, when I was on 625 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: a trip with them last year and I don't know, 626 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't remember how it came up, the topic of 627 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: master reading or something came up, and I think one 628 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: of them saying, Oh, I haven't you know massurbating like 629 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: a week or something. I don't remember how it came up. 630 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's been however many you know, 631 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: days or whatever, like what And I'm like, yeah, I'm 632 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: like I am a sex head of guys Like surprise, 633 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: you guys have like you know all of this information. Um, 634 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: you're like four of my closest friends. But this is 635 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: part of my program. I don't do that. And so 636 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: even just that breaking that ice, even with guys who 637 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: know me so well and know a lot of my story, 638 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 1: know most of my story, are still learning things about 639 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: it because not all of them asked questions. And that's okay, 640 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: they don't have to, but I just want to know 641 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: that they can. I want them to know that they can, 642 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: and I want to know that I can feel comfortable 643 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: around them. Yeah, I like that. Um. Well, this is 644 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: a really fun little bonus episode. I hope all of 645 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: you guys are staying healthy, staying at home. UM and Sarah, Yeah, 646 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: you want to come back next week for because I 647 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: want to give everybody just a wedding recap and see 648 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: how everything is. I've got time. Check your calendar, check 649 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: macaw alright, they wash your hands, stay home, wash your hands, 650 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: don't touch your eyes. Face knows everything. Just stay home. Okay. 651 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: I love you guys, and we're thinking of you guys, 652 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: and see you next week. I