1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: The only thing we have to do is make decisions 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: to help us be a better football team. That's the 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: only thing we have to do. At the end of 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: the day, you'll be judged and the proof will be 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: of how it works out over the coming season, upcoming season, 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: but over years, you will be evaluated for that decision. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: But you gotta make it. You can't. You can't sit 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: back and be afraid to make tough decisions. You can't 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: be afraid to take risk. Without risk, there is no progress. 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: All right. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: Welcome into this week's EVP podcast, and it's the third 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 3: edition of the EVP Podcast with Executive vice President of 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 3: Football Operations. I love always saying the name out because 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: I like the length of that name. 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: There's a lot too a lot too early. 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: We're getting into it now where this isn't a new 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: position for you anymore. Though, it's hard to believe that 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: it's been three months and that you're sort of into 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: it now. 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, when does that? 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: Like, when's the line of demarcation where it's no longer New. 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 3: Year? 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: So it's so it's still new then because. 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: We're you were a rookie until you were Yeah, I guess. 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 2: That's a good point. That's fair. Yeah, it's going great. 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we've made great progress. I think 27 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: we're on the field now. We obviously the draft is 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: behind us. We got the rookies in here, made the 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: big move in the draft, got Travis Hunter. We felt 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: we feel good about where we are right now, but 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: a lot of work to be done. We're not keeping 32 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: score yet, right that's when the true test is. But 33 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: we're getting ready to and doing the prep and I 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: think Liam and the staff are doing it. 35 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: Just a great job. 36 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: Watching practice, the install the teaching, the details around it, 37 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: and so really excited of where we are, but a 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: lot of work to be done. 39 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: So we're four or five days out from mini camp. 40 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: Just give me your impressions. 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: It's tough for me because I want to be consistent. 42 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: John, we talked a lot, you know, I said, you know, 43 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: it's don't make any I always would say is don't 44 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: make judgments on fake football because it's not. 45 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: Real football right now. But it's still important. 46 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to take that as like, hey, 47 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: this isn't an important time. It's important critical. I think 48 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: it's hard to really evaluate. What you can evaluate is 49 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: the demeanor of the guys you've brought in their learning style, 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: how much they can comprehend in the capacity uh and 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: and our coaches have thrown a lot out of them. 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: You know how they got integrated to the program. You 53 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: watch a little bit on the field, you know, maybe 54 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: the athletic ability, and you know how they go integrate 55 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: with the rest of their teammates and and going through 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: individual and stuff. But we're not competitive on the field 57 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: right now. Individually, the individuals are competing with themselves to 58 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: be the best they can, which we hope we do 59 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: every day, but we're not doing offense defense competition where 60 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: you're really evaluating football right now. In phase two, we 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: don't even have helmets on right So we'll get into 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: phase three coming up here real quick. We'll put some 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: helmets on a little bit of competitiveness, but still it's 64 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: not real football until you get the pads on and 65 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: really start competing playing football. That's when the real I 66 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: think you start evaluating, even at a deeper level. Everyone's 67 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: evaluated every day around here, but I want to be 68 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: consistent not get too far. 69 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: I try not to judge until pads go. 70 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: On, because I think you make mistakes. 71 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: You're either fall in love with a guy, then you 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: have to convince yourself to fall out of love with 73 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: once you're really seeing football. Or you have a negative 74 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: thought about an individual and they can and that doesn't 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: allow you to see what they can do when you're 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: playing football. So I think you have to say balanced 77 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: this time of year, it's an important time of year 78 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: for our players or coaches, everyone in this building. At 79 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: the same time, it's the very beginning portion of the 80 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: evaluation process. 81 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you about Travis Hunter because because 82 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: everyone does, he's obviously the topic what did you see 83 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: out there? But more importantly, what have you seen just 84 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: being around him? 85 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: Well, the confirmation that he's a supreme athlete with amazing 86 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: body control. But I think my favorite thing that I've seen, 87 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: and we believe this when we drafted him, is the 88 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: type of human being here, the competitive nature, the desire 89 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: to be great as an individual, the good teammate. How 90 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: he you know, this is the second overall pick, guy 91 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: who won the Heisman is gonna play both ways, and 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: he doesn't separate himself out from. 93 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: The rest of the rookies or the rest of his 94 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: draft class. 95 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: Doing it right is really important to him and so 96 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: that combined with just the natural joy he brings because 97 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: of his personality, everything I expected and more and really 98 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: looking forward to when we actually start playing real football 99 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: out there see what he can do. 100 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: To get into the fan engagement that we saw on Saturday. 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: But one more question about Travis. When you made that trade, 102 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 3: it's it's an incredibly gutsy trade for multiple reasons. You're 103 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: talking about a guy that James Glaston says can shape 104 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 3: the game, and yet it's very unconventional and you trade 105 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: it up. How did you feel a gravity of the 106 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: move in that sense? 107 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was a big decision, a big 108 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: strategic decision, and I give James a ton of credit 109 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: for his leadership through the entire process and how he 110 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: envisioned it and how he put it together. Yeah, it's 111 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: collaboration between James Lee and I. We go to a 112 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: shot with big decisions like that, but it was James 113 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: who led it, and it was James who put the 114 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: deal together. And as far as the gravity of the decision, 115 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: my approach is like we are making big decisions every day, 116 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: and even some of the decisions to just do things 117 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: the right way. 118 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: But that's a big, big, big that's. 119 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: A big one. There's no doubt about it. 120 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: You're trading away a first round pick next year, your 121 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: your your trade away second round pick this year. 122 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: But you have to have conviction, right, you have to have. 123 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: A set of belief, say this is what makes us 124 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: the best we can be, and then you got to 125 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: go execute it because just you know, talking about it, 126 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: theorizing about it, anyone can do that. 127 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of teams would have sat there and said, boy, 128 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: it'd be cool if we could do that, but we 129 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: can't do that. We gotta you know, we have to 130 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 3: do it this way. But it was a tone setting 131 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: move in that sense. 132 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: The only thing we have to do is make decisions 133 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: to help us be a better football team. That's the 134 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: only thing we have to do. And then our job 135 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: in this building is to evaluate. 136 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: Look at the whole board, the whole. 137 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: Picture in front of us, and then do the research, 138 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: do the work, and at the end of the day, 139 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: come together and make a decision that we are convicted 140 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: about and go out and execute it. Now, at the 141 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: end of the day, you'll be judged and the proof 142 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: will be of how it works out over the coming season. 143 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Upcoming season, but over years you will be evaluated for 144 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: that decision, but you got to make it. You can't 145 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: sit back and be afraid to make tough decisions. You 146 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: can't be afraid to take risk. Without risk, there is 147 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: no progress, and we want to move forward. We want 148 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: to progress. We want to build a championship organization. So 149 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: we have to make decisions that we think will lead 150 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: us to that destination. And we had conviction that Travis 151 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: was an individual we wanted to be a Jacksonville Jaguar. 152 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: We knew it would be expensive, it was going to 153 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: cost us something. We know there's risk in it. Anytime 154 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: you draft a player, you're projecting of what they can 155 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: do at this level. 156 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: And it brings the spotlight, and that's fine. 157 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: Like if you're going to shy away from the bright lights, probably. 158 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: In the wrong business. 159 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: Probably in the wrong business. 160 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: People weren't here on Saturday. When you open mini camp 161 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: to the fans, it's hard to get a feel for 162 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: just how cool that was. I know that was important 163 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: to you, sort of in the big picture of having 164 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: fans embrace this team. We've talked about it on this podcast, 165 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: but it's one thing to say it, it's another thing 166 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: to sort of do that and to have James and 167 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: Liam by in why is it so important to you? 168 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: And how cool is that to see Saturday. 169 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: Well, at the end of the. 170 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: Day, we want our fans engaged. I want EverBank Stadium filled, right, 171 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: not three quarters, not two thirds. I don't want to 172 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: see empty seats. But for us to do that, it's 173 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: our job to engage our fans and put a product 174 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: on the field that they can be proud of and 175 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: that they're excited about. 176 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: It's sometimes hard to do when football people traditionally, oh, 177 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: we're going to get this done and you know, well 178 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: it's a little unconventional and four thing, which is pretty cool. 179 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: We are in the entertainment business. We're asking people to 180 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: spend their hard earned dollars to come watch. 181 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: But it's football. 182 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: Play football, and be excited and happy when they leave 183 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: the Stateium. 184 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 2: That's what we're doing. 185 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we can never forget that we have a 186 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: bunch of people who live here in Jacksonville around the 187 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: country that are Jaguar fans. We want them engaged. We 188 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: want them if they're not here watching us, engaging with 189 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: us through all the different platforms that are available. If 190 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: they are within it driving distance or if they can 191 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: afford to fly here on Sundays, we want them in 192 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: that stadium. I want them to spend their hard earned 193 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: dollars to come watch us play football. Well, to do that, 194 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: we have a job. We have to engage them. We 195 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: have to put a product that they're proud of and 196 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: that they're excited about. And when we had the opportunity 197 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: and we sat down as a leadership team with the 198 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: business side of Chad Johnson, Mark Lamping and that team, 199 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: and we had just drafted Travis Hunter. Our fans are excited, 200 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: We're going to have a rocky minicamp. Why wouldn't we 201 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: open it up? Why wouldn't we. 202 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 3: Allow executives who you give out fifteen bad reasons. 203 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Well I could give them a hundred good reasons. And 204 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: and I thought it was great. I think our players 205 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. 206 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 2: There was energy. 207 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: I think our coaching staff enjoyed it. At the end 208 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: of the day, we're out there playing football. And and 209 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: I give a lot of credit to you know, Chad 210 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: Johnson and that team working with us. If you had 211 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: asked me at ten thirty that morning, whether we're going 212 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: to be able to practice outdoors and in front of 213 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: our fans, I'd have said, there's no chance it was raining, 214 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: like it was the end of the world, Like we 215 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: got to build an arc and but we went through 216 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: the process. We had a drop dead time of when 217 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: we could call it one way or another. We worked 218 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: all the way through. Our field team, our facilities team, 219 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: Jeff de Luca and that group did a great job 220 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: on the field getting it ready, got the water out 221 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: the best we could, and we said, at the end 222 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: of the day, if the grass is safe enough safe 223 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: for our players to practice, we're going to go out 224 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: there in practice and let our fans see this football team. 225 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: You and Fred talked to the team about what it 226 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 3: means to be a Jaguar. That's really cool. Why was 227 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: that important to you and what was that experience like. 228 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was important to me for a lot of reasons. 229 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: Fred Taylor. 230 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: By the way, Fred Taylor, I came here in ninety five, 231 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: we had no history, no tradition, There was no former. 232 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: Jaguars for us to look to as a rookie class. 233 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: We had to create that. We had good veterans that 234 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: did a good job leading. But it was also a 235 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: big a lot driven by Tom Cofflin. And so when 236 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: we started talking about the onboarding of the rookies and 237 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: the rookie dinner with the legends. Wanted as many former 238 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Jaguars that could be here for dinner and sit with 239 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: the rookies and talk to him. But to me, it 240 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: was really important that Fred Taylor here, one of, if 241 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: not the greatest Jaguar of all time, who played the 242 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: game the right way, was in my mind, a guy 243 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: that you would put up in front of anybody and say, 244 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: this is what a Jaguar is. 245 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: Tough, competitive, passionate, cares about the organization. 246 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: Learned how to be a pro from the time he 247 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: was a rookie and became one of the best groups 248 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: and grew. 249 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: And I said, who better than Fred Taylor to have 250 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: sit in front of our rookies and talk about what 251 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: it meant to be a pro in this league, but 252 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: also what it meant to be a Jaguar. 253 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: They're probably pretty quiet when he was talking. 254 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a guy with a lot of wisdom. Yeah, 255 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: and he's he's been from where he grew up and 256 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: going through Florida and coming here as a first rounder 257 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: and the growth he had. People don't remember. He couldn't 258 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: didn't win the starting job until James Stewart got hurt 259 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: and then took advantage of his opportunity to become the 260 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: became the greatest running back ever in this franchise and 261 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: one of the best to ever play in the NFL. 262 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: So I felt like it was important. The dinner was 263 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: important for them to sit with, you know, a more 264 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: intimate setting with guys and eating dinner. 265 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: But I wanted them to for. 266 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: That right alumni. 267 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: We did, and I appreciate our alumni coming and they 268 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: did a great job. But most important for me was 269 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor being able to sit there and say and 270 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: not only for them to hear the words he was 271 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: speaking and feel his presence, but to see an individual 272 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: that really I think embodies what it means to be 273 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: a Jacksonville Jaguar. 274 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: What have you noticed on the field in terms of 275 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 3: Liam Cohen's coaching? How is this looking different from your perspective? 276 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: I know you weren't here last. 277 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 2: Year, but ye, I don't want to compare it to 278 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: anything else. 279 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: That's not fair to Limb and it's not fair to 280 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: the guys who coached her in the past. And really 281 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: what we did in the past doesn't matter, has no 282 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: impact on what we're going to do now. But what 283 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: I'll say about Liam that I've. 284 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: Hit the detail. 285 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: Of the approach and how we are teaching and installing 286 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: is really impressive, Like every detail is important and the 287 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: whole staff. 288 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: It goes through the whole staff. 289 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: And then his intensity and his competitive spirit is on 290 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: full display. Not only when he's in front of the 291 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: team at the team meeting. He's an outstanding communicator. He 292 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: captures the attention of everybody in that room, but then 293 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: you watch him on the excuse me, you watch him 294 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: on the grass and how he goes around and is 295 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: communicating to the entire team, to a staff with an 296 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: intensity that you can feel and that you understand the. 297 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: Importance of this. 298 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: And then what's really cool for me is he's an 299 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: individual that can coach and teach every position on offense 300 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: in really good details. He's a very talented football coach 301 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: and and so far what we've seen, I've seen and 302 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: witnessed is really exciting and looking forward to when we 303 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: actually start playing real football with pads and get ready 304 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: for the season, go through preseason and get to the 305 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: first Sunday after Labor Day. 306 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: It's probably not fair to this group but I know 307 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: it's your passion offensive line. 308 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 309 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: Again, It's like I used to tell everyone when I 310 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: was a player. They want to go out there and 311 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: evaluate us, and I'm like, good luck, do whatever you want. 312 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: What I'll say about him, schan Cerette is doing a 313 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: great job. Watching his style and his teaching and what 314 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: he's taken them through. He's doing a great job. And 315 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: what I like about the group, there's a competitiveness about them. 316 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: They are working really hard in the weight room. We're 317 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: starting to see them come together as a unit. We 318 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: have sick we have you know for free agents, pro 319 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: free agents. We have two drafted guys, one college undrafted 320 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: and then the guys who were and so part of 321 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: that to be a successful and a good offensive line 322 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: is the cohesiveness of those five guys, and you have 323 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: to build relationships, you have to build trust, you have 324 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: to work together, and watching that unit, whether it's in 325 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: the weight room in phase two before after work, just 326 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: getting together and really spending time and building. 327 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: Those relationships really good. 328 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: Earlier returns looks good and they're working hard out there. 329 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: But for me, the evaluation of like looking at what 330 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: we got and who are best five, that's what camps were. 331 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: Two questions before we get to your favorite segment, the bowzonezone. 332 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about them, but I haven't talked 333 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: to you since the draft about James Gladstone just first 334 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: draft handling that process. I was struck by how in 335 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: the first draft it was clearly his world. He was 336 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: clearly leading it. How impressed were you? 337 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt. 338 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about this, and I think people 339 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: all the time ask us like, Okay, you got this 340 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: leadership structure where you have three individuals all reporting to 341 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: Shod and I give Shot a ton of credit the 342 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: vision that he laid out of how this would work 343 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: and how he wanted it to work. Number One, you 344 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: better have the right people in those seats. I believe 345 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: we do. That's very self serving because I'm one of them, 346 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: so take that with a grain of salt. But the 347 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: communication and the collaboration has been great. But also why 348 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: that works is because it's very clearly defined who's responsible 349 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: for what, who's gonna lead each of these areas. I mean, 350 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: there's no question who the head coaches, what happens on 351 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: the grass, what happens in those team meetings of how 352 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: we're going to operate, what our culture is and that 353 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: communication is. That's Liam, that's his area. Do we talk 354 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: about a lot of that stuff as a group, the 355 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: three of us. Does he bounce ideas and get feedback 356 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: from us, Sure, But the end of the day, his call. 357 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: He's the head coach. He's gonna make those calls. No 358 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: different when it comes to whether it's pro free agency 359 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: and the draft, that's James Gladstone's area of expertise. 360 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: He led us. 361 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: Whether it was the trade for Travis Hunter. Did we 362 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: all talk about it, bounce it back and forth and 363 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: go through the scenarios and talk about how we felt 364 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: about it and slept on it and kind of worked 365 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: through the process. 366 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely did. That's part of the. 367 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: The greatness of James for him to engage that way 368 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: and to go through a process at the end of 369 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: the day was his call. At the end of the day, 370 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: he's leading us. When we got in that draft room 371 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: and went through the process and with our scouts and 372 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: everything else, building working towards Thursday night, day one of 373 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: the draft, James led it. It was him kind of 374 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: going through the process, building his call sheet. You know, 375 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: how we act the players where they sit, working close 376 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: collaboration with the coaching staff of how they sought, our 377 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: scouts sought. But when it came time to make the decision, 378 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: when it came time to call Andrew Berry at the 379 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns to execute the trade or to say, you know, 380 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: in round three, when we're sitting there and a guy 381 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: falls off the board that maybe we were targeting, now, 382 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: let's talk look at the trade opportunities to go back. 383 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: What does that mean? Can we get our guy? Yeah, 384 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: we were all in the room talking about it. James 385 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: Gladstone's making the call. That's his call, and the composure 386 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: that he had and how he handled everything from up 387 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: to the draft, the trade getting Travis Hunter, but then 388 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: day two, Day three, all the way into the undrafted 389 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: free agents. 390 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: It was like, oh yeah, it was it was. 391 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: His first draft as a GM. I get that, but 392 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't his first rodeo. He was in complete control. 393 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: As he has said, and we've all the three of 394 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: us have talked about we'll be judged and how good 395 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: this draft is probably over the next you know, two 396 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: or three years, but right now, if you just wanted 397 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: to judge the process and how we went through it, 398 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: and how it was executed and where I sit today 399 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: man a plus. I mean, I'm not sure how he 400 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: could have done better. And what's exciting to me and 401 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: what we've been working on now and what he's been 402 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: spending a lot of time on is how do we 403 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: improve the process as we start working into next year. 404 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 3: I'm sure he has thoughts. I'd be remissibout adn't ask 405 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: about the schedule. I always feel stupid asking schedule questions 406 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: because you never know what the schedule really is until 407 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 3: season starts. But any thoughts on anything stand out about 408 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: the twenty five schedule. 409 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna be on the traveling quite a bit. Yeah, 410 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: we've got a couple. We've got four West Coast games. 411 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: Looks like a tough start to me though. Five of seven. Yeah, 412 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 3: are the first seven teams had winning records last year. 413 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: That's the kind of thing that people will lock onto. 414 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: This is a year to year league. 415 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: Guess what I can guarantee, there's going to be a 416 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: team that finished last place in the division last year. 417 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: It's going to win the division and go to the playoffs. 418 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: It's happened every year for I don't know how many years. 419 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: The biggest truth is, you don't know how hard to 420 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: schedule is until Week six. 421 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: You have no clue, and unfortunately, there's gonna be injuries 422 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: in this league. None of these teams are the same 423 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: as they were last year. Each of us are new teams, 424 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: whether it's new staffs, maybe it's the same staff. But 425 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: you chain, you know, players retired, you cut players, you 426 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: go get your draft new ones, you have pro free agency. 427 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: Each of these teams are a little bit different. So 428 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: everyone talks about, Man, you got a tough start. 429 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 3: Maybe good to get the primetime game here though. 430 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: I think it'd be fun. Yeah, I mean, come on, 431 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: let's go Kansay the Chiefs. Patrick mahomes the best franchise 432 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: in this era, the most successful franchise, head coach, starting quarterback, 433 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: coming in to every bank Monday night football. 434 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: Let's go, like I can't wait and so. 435 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: But they're all tough. That's one thing you learn as 436 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: a player. We played sixteen back when I played all sixteen. 437 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna be a challenge. It's not like you're walking 438 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: in and say, hey, we're gonna go play some Division. 439 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: I double a team today and let's roll out the ball. 440 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: We got no problems. I mean, it's competitive. This is 441 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: most games are one possession games when you get in 442 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. And so I'm looking forward to the challenge. 443 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: And I know our I believe our coaches and our 444 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: players are going to be up to it. We's got 445 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: we have a lot of work to do, me now 446 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: and then to get ready for it. 447 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: The old man is going to put his glasses on 448 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: and take you into the bowzone. 449 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: What about that? 450 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: Josh from Atlanta, Georgia rights In the spirit of Travis 451 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 3: being such a freak athlete, who would you say, are 452 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 3: the three greatest the three greatest greatest athletes? Easier for 453 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: me to say you have ever seen play or cover? 454 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: That was my greatest athletes you played against or with? 455 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: Uh? Fred Taylor, I know you play. 456 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: He's one of my lists, probably one of the greatest 457 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: athletes I've ever seen play the game foot I'm trying 458 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: to think, who else just jumps out when I was playing. 459 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: But Fred in the NFL of guys you played with, 460 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: Fred stands out that first time, I. 461 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: Thought, yeah, I mean another guy that watching him play 462 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: live and playing against them, watching Barry Sanders from the 463 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: ball is like, my goodness, not very many guys. 464 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: Could tackle players on our fencing. The team would go yeah. 465 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 3: That was always the phenomenon. 466 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: It was unreal Randy Moss playing against Randy you saw 467 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: that first and one stand up there on a Sunday night. 468 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: That was not a lot of fun. 469 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: Boy. There's so many. 470 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: I mean there's so many great I mean John Randall, 471 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: his size, the power, the quickness was unreal. I mean 472 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: Ray Lewis, I mean you can go down the list. 473 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: I mean there's so many. 474 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: It's interesting, you said, Fred, because when I thought of athletes, 475 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 3: I thought of Okay, who did things that made what 476 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 3: should be hard look really easy. 477 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: I'll give you another, Yeah, Fred, I'll give you another. 478 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: Guy we played with Tony Brackens was one of the 479 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: most athletic guys I've ever been around my entire life. Well, 480 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: he could do from a strength, power, speed, change the direction. 481 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: It was. 482 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 3: It was remarkable. Good answers Cliff from Orange Park, Florida. 483 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: It's Ginty. Getting Hunter seems more of a we are 484 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: a player away move. Does it say anything about how 485 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 3: confident the regime is that they made that move. 486 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 2: I don't believe you're ever a player away. 487 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: I think that's as I think that's a misnomer. It's 488 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: this is the ultimate team sport. You got eleven guys 489 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: in offense, better be all on the same page. And 490 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: and you say, we said a lot about about a 491 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: lot of things, but the some of the parts is 492 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: greater than the individual in football, and so I don't 493 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: think it says anything. I think what it says is 494 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: we felt like Travis Hunter made us a better team 495 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: more than anyone else we could get in this draft, 496 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: and whatever we had to give up for him was 497 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: well worth it. So I think that's all I would 498 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: take from. It doesn't speak to where we think or 499 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: don't think we are. 500 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: Find that out in September, right. 501 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I got a lot of thoughts that I'll 502 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: keep to myself of where we are and what I 503 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: believe because it doesn't really matter until we go out 504 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: in the field and prove it. Like all the talk, 505 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: we can talk about what we want to do and 506 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: what we're going to do and what type of team 507 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: we're building and all that, and we have a vision 508 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: and Liam has a clear vision of what he wants 509 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: to do, and James has a strategy of how we're 510 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: going to execute that. End of the day, gotta go 511 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: do it on the grass, and that's what we will 512 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: all be judged on. Players, coaches, front office. 513 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: Final Bowzone question. Rob from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania writes, Hey, John, 514 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: who restricted? Maybe Tony? What's up? What is the most 515 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 3: improved area on this team? Including coaching. I know it's 516 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 3: a tough question as specifically, but areas that you see improved? 517 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's again most improved. We're trying. 518 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just say for me, I'm not really 519 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: looking back to what happened last year, and so I 520 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: will say this. I'm excited on about what we're building. 521 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm excited about our coaching staff. We talked about Liam earlier, 522 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: his leadership, his football acumen, the staff he's put together, 523 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: how we are engineering this roster right now with James 524 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: leading that. So I like where we are. I'm excited 525 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: about where we are. We are not a finished product 526 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: by any means, and so we got to we need 527 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: to continue to get better, improve, look for ways to 528 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: improve with our current players and our current roster to 529 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: get them to be the best versions of themselves and 530 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: to allow them to reach their maximum potential. But always 531 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: also looking at like how can we improve as an 532 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: organization as in a team in any way, and so 533 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: again we are at the early early stages. We have 534 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: not put pads on, we have not played real football 535 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: with these guys. We are in the church in the 536 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: teaching and learning phase install which is critical. 537 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: And so. 538 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: When we are having these podcasts in the season, we'll 539 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: have a better sense of right where we are. 540 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: Tell you, I'll let you get to minicamp practice. Thank 541 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 3: you for doing the e VP podcast. Great stuff as always, Buddy. 542 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: Thanks Man.