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Speaker 1: Scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tanya Red and I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio podcast. Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in this

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Speaker 1: Monday came faster than like, but it came too fast

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Speaker 1: to say something very dirty. Oh God, go ahead on

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Speaker 1: man having sex with the first time in his life. Wow,

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Speaker 1: rolled off the tongue. Yeah, it really did. And my

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Speaker 1: whole body is like in pain. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: happened to it, but we had Jojo and Jordan's wedding

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, and I don't know if it was

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Speaker 1: just like being in heels for that long. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but I am exhausted.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. What time did you have to get

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Speaker 1: up today? So early? Yeah? And the best part is

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Speaker 1: is like today is like my longest day in America,

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Speaker 1: because after we wrapped the podcast, Sissy and I are

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Speaker 1: heading down to Disneyland until like nine pm. It should

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Speaker 1: sound fun, but it sounds like the last thing I'd

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Speaker 1: ever want to do right now. Problem is because we

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Speaker 1: were in so much traffic. I feel like all I've

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Speaker 1: like rolled my ankle at some point on Saturday, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't know until I woke up yesterday. So I

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Speaker 1: have like a so sore ankle. It's like my old

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Speaker 1: basketball days, except I was definitely not playing basketball. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, I realized, what drinking is so fun

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Speaker 1: in the moment, but the next day it's getting worse

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Speaker 1: and worse. Do you think the fun in the moment wait, yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you think the fun in the moment outweighs the

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Speaker 1: But let me tell you what's really bad is when

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Speaker 1: you're hungover and then you drink more than next day,

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Speaker 1: because that's like the wedding, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 1: so we were hungover on Saturday, and I just kept

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Speaker 1: drinking on Saturday to like beat the hangover, and then

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Speaker 1: had the wedding and so Sunday it was like game over.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't did I drink on I did drink,

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Speaker 1: but not like I didn't feel bad the next day

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Speaker 1: because we had an early morning Saturday and then um,

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Speaker 1: I didn't even drink that much at the wedding. But

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Speaker 1: I think on top of not sleeping well at being

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Speaker 1: a long day, the excitement mixed in with some tequila

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Speaker 1: shots and such. I will say I'm still on the

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Speaker 1: end of like feeling rejuvenated. Yeah, I'm so pissed because

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Speaker 1: I brought my like really good lingerie to where this

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Speaker 1: weekend old plan. I was like, I'm just gonna get

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Speaker 1: a little tipsy at the welcome thing on Friday, go

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Speaker 1: back to our room and have a show. It didn't

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Speaker 1: come out all weekend, not one not even for a second. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: that's when you know you had a good time. We

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Speaker 1: really did. We like totally lived it up. We like

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Speaker 1: Really made it into like a little mini Getawayay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was really fun. It was like, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't I was telling my sister, like I didn't have

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Speaker 1: any like there wasn't anything where I was like it

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Speaker 1: was perfect, except like it was just perfect. I was

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Speaker 1: looking over so this girl shows up in a like

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Speaker 1: dress with a butterfly on it, and then she had

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Speaker 1: I was like, I've got to bring you over to

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Speaker 1: of Tanya just holding this girl's clutch, like taking a

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Speaker 1: post it because the fact that she was there a

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Speaker 1: butterfly girl at the wedding was just like, I feel significant,

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Speaker 1: don't you think? Yeah, of course what I feel like.

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Speaker 1: You get very emotional at weddings. Did you see? I

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Speaker 1: the ceremony, was crying the entire ceremony, and then I

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Speaker 1: I'm a crier. How does he Reckon get wedding? I

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Speaker 1: don't think I can have a wedding because I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't hold it together for other people's weddings. Can

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe not, maybe you can't have a wedding. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I literally was like I I even to people's weddings.

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Speaker 1: dad's speech a little bit. Yeah, it's really sweet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the dad's speech. Yeah, and he really he really brought it.

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Speaker 1: it was really just a cancers So I relate to this. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the wedding's getting me now that I have kids,

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Speaker 1: The births of children get me. Proposals always get me,

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Speaker 1: even on TV in and movies. Proposals really get me.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm just always kind of it's always it's never

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Speaker 1: far from the surface. Yeah, it's it's always like just

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Speaker 1: never the position I'm in in that setting, or that

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Speaker 1: that's never how it's done for me. I do have

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Speaker 1: to say, though, when I showed up Friday night to

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Speaker 1: the welcome party, Becca and I were in very cohesive

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Speaker 1: dresses and we're not planned. I did not know you

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Speaker 1: like it's very similar dress, just in a similar like style,

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Speaker 1: complimentary color palette. It's almost as though we're starting to

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Speaker 1: think alike, which you know makes me so happy, yes,

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Speaker 1: and you not so much. Well, I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: think does that mean you're thinking more like me or

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking more like you? Because um, yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: really fun. It was just like fun to have. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: so Hailey wrote up with Robbie and Tanya, and then

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Speaker 1: Alley and she was like, I was just the third

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Speaker 1: Like I feel very taken care, like almost like a kid.

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Speaker 1: When I'm a third wheel, you know, like both people

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Speaker 1: I know. But the whole weekend we did feel like

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Speaker 1: traffic was just wild on Friday. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: what so clearly they don't listen to podcast and zero support.

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Speaker 1: Um so that was first in the rankings. Um So.

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Speaker 1: Then I told them the story about when we were

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Speaker 1: I just had this conversation yesterday. Somehow this story has

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Speaker 1: I only care about getting to the flight on time.

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Speaker 1: As if I care about getting to the flight on time.

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Speaker 1: That's the best part of how this story has taken

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Speaker 1: Roll the tape. Yeah, so we'll find that and we'll

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Speaker 1: quite handy in a pinch. No, I we should sponsor

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Speaker 1: hyder hydro Flask should sponsor us and we can give

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Speaker 1: It's also for heavy traffic times. How close do you

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Speaker 1: out with some boiling water called brand spankanow. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: gonna be? Are you too intimidated to be in a

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00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: room with me with that thing? I'm just watch out, girl,

425
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: It is intimidated by that. But I was just thinking

426
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: about how how who thought we were going to be

427
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: taking them together? Mark? And who thought that? And I

428
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: was like, absolutely not. But I'm happy to take photos

429
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: for you and whatever you want to wear. But that

430
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: thing is I just can't imagine it being like, well,

431
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: describe it for us, Okay, Well, what's the bottom? Is

432
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: it just a it's a thong and it's crop there,

433
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: crotched this. Yeah, it tasteful because it's like lace, right, Okay,

434
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: So it's and then it's like a strip is it leather?

435
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: Sun that goes all the way up I don't think

436
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: it's either or it's like, um, it's almost like like

437
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: that bra strap material. I think it's like a bra strap. Okay,

438
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have a I have a structural question

439
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: before we move on. If it's crotchless and a thong,

440
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't understand how that can work. So the crotchless

441
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: underwear have sides. Yeah, so it's just like like a lapse.

442
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: So it meets in the back, yeah, and then it

443
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: meets in the front. So just it was like at

444
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: a certain points, is just a belt, right kind of

445
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: well going vertical. I'm afraid to look this to google this,

446
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: but I might have to. Well, so then it's a

447
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: strip of fabric going up and it goes around the

448
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: neck like I call like a turtle, a little turtle neck.

449
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: Nothing else. It's so hot, So wait, so what's covered? Nothing?

450
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: Her neck, a tiny bit of her neck and then

451
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: her chick my belly button might be covered, but crack,

452
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, wow, yeah, that's right, and Becca's gonna

453
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: capture that bad boy. And how I gotta find the

454
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: right angles here? No, I should go shopping for it. Yeah,

455
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: oh man, just to see the square inch of your

456
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: stern hum that's discovered right now. I'm actually really interested

457
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: to see how these turn out and how the actual

458
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: shoot goes down, because I feel like we're going to

459
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: be cracking up the whole time. Like the photos are

460
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: probably gonna suck. How dare you for me? For sure?

461
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: My photos of you are probably Yeah, that's gonna I'm

462
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: gonna be so upset because Tany, I'm like, honestly, if

463
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: I ever decide to really go for it and have

464
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: the time and energy to do so, I'm going to

465
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: I would love to go and learn more about like

466
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: photography and videography. I love taking photos and videos. So

467
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: Tanya is gonna get like the most stunning photos in

468
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: this croutchless piece of fabric, and then I'm gonna get

469
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 1: mine and be like the blurry yeah, just like for Tuns,

470
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: Like while I'm laughing, just it's okay. So Becky, you

471
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: have something that's a little bit more, Um, I think

472
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go more of like a pretty like you know,

473
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: I think I don't know that Chase would be the more,

474
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: but a little more like you know, subtle, like a

475
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: little more like mysterious, like a little teddy. Yeah, just

476
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't know about ninety, but yeah, just something I

477
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: don't know, like maybe like a braw and underwear, like

478
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 1: maybe like a pretty like so brow something that's like,

479
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, more covered. Yeah, well, anything I wear,

480
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: I can say this will be more cover than what

481
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: Tanya was wearing at my pol Hillary Duff and just

482
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: go completely. So I honestly feel like that might be better.

483
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: I don't from what I've seen of that thing, I

484
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: don't see it being like that's a good question, Tanya,

485
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: if you were to wear that thing, would you do

486
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: like Hillary Duff and cover the naughty parts? Alright? Yeah,

487
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: well yeah she'll get banned from Instagram and she post

488
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: these crazy. By the way, I heard back from Robbie.

489
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: What do you say? I said to him, time to

490
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: made the first move and Becca agrees and he responded,

491
00:28:53,680 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: l O L not debatable and he Robbie loves a debate.

492
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: Is not debatable? Case closed the defense. Ris, Oh that's

493
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: so good, Oh my god. Yeah, but I'm I'm excited

494
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 1: about our shoot and then we have Ngo Tango. Yeah, so,

495
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: like so our photos is gonna happen next week. It's

496
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: just gonna be that when we can properly do it

497
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: because I think I want to do We each want

498
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: to do it in our bedrooms, right, so we would

499
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: do one day mine, one day yours. Okay, Well, life

500
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: in general is coming over for a console to help

501
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: me reorganizment. So I don't know if my my bed

502
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 1: room is gonna be in this array. No, I was saying, like,

503
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, to do it in my bedroom. She's gonna

504
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: be there all week. I don't know. I have a lot.

505
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm the logistics of the situation. Let's just do it

506
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: in the scrubbing in office room right here with rad

507
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: behind me on a sexy photo shoot in my studio

508
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: like a snake. You know, it's like playboys Women of

509
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: podcast or Tanya has her like she basically looks like

510
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: she has a cord going up her stomach and a

511
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: round so she could just like yeah, yeah, yeah, oh no,

512
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: why don't practicing? Are you gonna wear makeup? Are you

513
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: gonna go like songs? Like just be like natural. I

514
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna try and be natural. It's like no

515
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: zero yeah, and maybe like my hair like all back,

516
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: like like no hair, no makeup. Yeah, it's raw and real.

517
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: It's raw and real. All right, I'm looking forward to that.

518
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good time. So we really forge

519
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: out the logistics, like the days we're gonna shoot, and

520
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: and then maybe if they're good, maybe I make a

521
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: book of them or something. Yeah. Well, I thought the

522
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: whole point if that of those shoots is to give

523
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: it to your like significant other you going to do.

524
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: I thought the whole point of the shoe was just

525
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: so that we could feel good if I could just well, yeah,

526
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: I mean that's the whole point of the shoot. If

527
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: I could just get a photo that makes me feel

528
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: good from this, I'll be I'm telling about the sugar though,

529
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: what sugar? Oh, the non sugar. There's no way you

530
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: went on that vacation this weekend. I didn't have sugar.

531
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: I did not, but okay, I did have one bite

532
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: of the wedding cake. I know, but I was like

533
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: so drunk and it looked so good, and so I

534
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: took a bite. And he comes walking over and he

535
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: was like, I don't text the Emma and her husband Graham,

536
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, tell him it was you, Oh,

537
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: it's us. It was us. That was really good. And

538
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: he was like, you're Vegan, You're not eating that cake

539
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: so um. But yeah, you know, I'm just getting used

540
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: to coffee without sugar, and just you know, I don't

541
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: like the idea of putting Robbie in charge of your

542
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: sugar intake. I think it's going to create resentment. I

543
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: think it's what it's going to end all you. He's

544
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: going to annoy you at a certain already has unfair.

545
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: But I am happy I put him in charge because

546
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: when you put that man in charge or something, boy,

547
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: let me tell you, he follows through. So it was

548
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: good for me to put him in charge because it's good.

549
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: That's interesting to me because when when I put anyone

550
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: in charge of anything in my life and they like

551
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: but like, they say something to me that I asked

552
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: them to do, I immediately am like, no, Like, you

553
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: can't tell me what to do, even though I asked

554
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: him to do it. So I find it interesting because

555
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: you're you are kind of that way. You're like, I

556
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: do what I want. I'm a modern woman, and all

557
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're able to be told what to

558
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: not Like that's interesting because I want it myself. I

559
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: want to do it myself, but I'm not strong enough

560
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: right now. I will be strong enough soon. It's been

561
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: a week. I'm impressed. I mean that's a lot. It

562
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: is a lot. I a waffle yesterday and the I

563
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: didn't even need the syrup when it was so sweet

564
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: and delicious. It was incredible, And I was thinking, there's

565
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: no way Tanya went through this town with all these

566
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: bakeries and like the pastries and didn't eat sugar. I'm impressed.

567
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, congrats, thank you. One day at a time,

568
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: does this last forever? Like it's like, well, they say

569
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: it takes twenty one days to break a habit, So

570
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I'm at right now. So you're

571
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: just trying to get to where you don't need it

572
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: to survive. Correct. Yeah, I don't need to have my

573
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: sugar after every meal. But it's so good to have

574
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: the balance. I like a palate cleanse. Yeah, it's hard.

575
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: It's really hard to have something savory and not follow

576
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: it with something, especially if it's a little spicy. I

577
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: like to put the fire out with like a little

578
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: minte or something about delicate. Delicate. Mint is so delicate

579
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: to me, Like you need mint chocolate come into that. Yeah,

580
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: m hmm. Like so you're like there's no ice girls

581
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: got cookie season? Where will I be donating my money

582
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: and not getting the cookies. You should get the cookies

583
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: and can give them out to people. That's okay, Yeah,

584
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't want them. They have like fo um.

585
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: Well that's cool. I'm proud of you. I have no

586
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: desire to join it. You know. It's so funny when

587
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: you're like doing something new, you like tell everybody about it.

588
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: So you're like in the coffee shop and I ordered

589
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: my coffee and I was like, no sugar, you know,

590
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: did the whole thing, And the guy making the coffee

591
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I did this for two years and

592
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: like did he like he like needed to do it,

593
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: and he said he lost like ninety pounds and he's

594
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: like giving me tips and tricks of things. Yeah. But

595
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: I got into a whole conversation with this man Soulving

596
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: about his two years without sugar and now he eats

597
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: it like once every two weeks to kind of like

598
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: just be like a balance. Wow, m that's incredible, you know.

599
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: So I'm just making friends along the journey. Yeah. I Mean.

600
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: The the cool thing is you're not the first person

601
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: to do this, and you will not be the last,

602
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: so there are many that have come before you after

603
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: you like, it's just nice. That's good. Um, Okay, well

604
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We'll be back with emails. Okay,

605
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: we're back and we I said emails before we left,

606
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: but we only have one email. So you guys got

607
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: us email us scrubbing in at my heart media dot com. Yeah,

608
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: y'all keep emailing us. We we don't know that our

609
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: advice is great, but we love giving it. Yeah. Alright, Well,

610
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: before I do this, I just want to say thank

611
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: you to the scrubber as I got a really lot

612
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: of wonderful feedback from last week's episode will be Done

613
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: Women's Reproductive Rights. So I was blown away by the

614
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: avalanche of positive response I got from my thoughts, your thoughts,

615
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: Easterns thoughts. It was really nice to see and we

616
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: were and I really appreciate that, So thank you for that.

617
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: I'm kind of bracing for the worst. I was too. Mark.

618
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up because I also got

619
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: like so many supportive messages and like thoughtful messages, and

620
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: I also got messages that, um, we had a really

621
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: I had multiple messages where we had really nice conversations,

622
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: like we didn't agree on everything, but I just appreciated

623
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: the dialogue. It wasn't like this nasty back and forth.

624
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: And I also appreciated that too. I appreciate those the

625
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: most when they come in hot and then you respond

626
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: with your thoughts and then they're like, wow, that was

627
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: you know, like it's a respectful conversation. Yeah. So I

628
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: also felt the same way. I don't know if Eastern

629
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: got a lot of messages that he directed them to himself,

630
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: but I was ready. I was ready for a fight.

631
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: I got my thumbs working, but I didn't get a

632
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: single mean message that was. I got one person that

633
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: was like, um, they don't like the new Cheesecake Factory flavor.

634
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: It's just like cinemun thing and they're like it's not

635
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: that good. But I was like, this isn't what I

636
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: was looking for. Um, but fighting words with you though, yeah,

637
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: that's pretty controversial. They got blocked, They got blocked right away,

638
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: but but no one, no one said anything. I got

639
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: inundated with nice messages, people showing support, people appreciating that

640
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: we talked about it on the show and it's just

641
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: so important for for all women, and um, I'm I'm

642
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: glad you ladies gave the platform. I'm also locked out

643
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: of the Facebook group again. So that's my design, you know,

644
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: not the Facebook group out of Facebook the oh yeah,

645
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: who blocked you? I can't get into Facebook anymore? All right?

646
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: From Anonymous, I've heard you talk about imposter syndrome, and

647
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: I have a question related to that. Backstory. I got

648
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: married in late twenties. By the time I got married,

649
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: many of my friends had started families with her husband's

650
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: working to stay at home moms, teachers, nurses, and from

651
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: the Midwest as a Catholic community, so it was all

652
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: very common. Well, I'm thirty five now and I can't

653
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: help but feel guilty about my success. My friends who

654
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: are teachers and nurses have had the worst several years

655
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: of their lives, and my business has flourished, all while

656
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: not putting my life at risk every day like they are.

657
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: My husband and I just finished building our dream home.

658
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: It's four or five times bigger than any of my

659
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: friends houses. We also purchased a vacation home recently. Over

660
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, some of my friends have

661
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: made comments about the money we spend, the lifestyle we have.

662
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: They aren't necessarily negative, but the comments that show an

663
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: understanding of the wealth disparity between us. The pride it

664
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: once felt of being an independent woman making my own

665
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: money is not turned into guilt. I don't feel worthy

666
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: of my success when I see my friends around me

667
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: struggle with raising their kids during this crazy time while

668
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: working on the front lines of a pandemic. I'm wondering

669
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: if this is something that you two have ever had

670
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: to deal with in your careers. How do you celebrate

671
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: your success while feeling like others deserve it more, particularly

672
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: when it comes to money. M hmm. This is an

673
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: interesting I don't think I've ever thought about or like,

674
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: I've never had to think about this. I think, I mean,

675
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: I try. I have so many friends, and I think

676
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: we're all in different like we all have different careers,

677
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: a lot of us, and I think that celebrating success,

678
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: whatever that looks like within the friend group, has always

679
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: been important. Um. I mean to me, I think it's

680
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: really I love my friends who have more money and

681
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: bigger homes and vacation homes. I'm like, invite me over, like,

682
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: let me let me come. Have you know a piece

683
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: of that? So I think I I imagine like even

684
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: if your friends are aware and that maybe they have

685
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: days where they're like, uh, I wish I was, you know,

686
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: not having to deal with this financial stress and job stress,

687
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: and I wish I could live my life like her.

688
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: But I think ultimately it sounds like your friends are

689
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: probably happy for you, and I don't know that they

690
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: may be whatever want you to take on the guilt

691
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: of feeling guilty for your or the weight of feeling

692
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: guilty for your success. I think they want you to

693
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: be very proud of yourself. It's interesting because I've never

694
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: felt um in turns in regards to the to the email.

695
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: I've never felt that way with my friends um in

696
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: in that sense, but I have felt that guilt of

697
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: like I remember, you know, when I first started working,

698
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: I was like interning, so I was making no money

699
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: for working twelve hours a day, and then like I

700
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: slowly started to increase to whatever I think it was

701
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: like six sev or whatever minimum wage was. When I

702
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: first started, um it was like a slow, slow increase.

703
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: And then I remember when I got a big increase

704
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: when I got my on air position, I did feel

705
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: that guilt. I was like, I'm a single girl. I

706
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: don't have a family. I don't need this paycheck. Other

707
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: people need this paycheck more than me, And like, I

708
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: felt that immense guilt at that point in my life.

709
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: But I think what I realized is I don't know

710
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: where that guilt comes from, because they think it does

711
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: come from imposter syndrome, because you're like, you're happy. You

712
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: obviously love your business, you love what you do, and

713
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: you're happy. Um, and so it's kind of like, why

714
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: do I get to, you know, love my career and

715
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: make money at the same time. I don't know. It's

716
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: so weird because I know exactly how you feel, but

717
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how to combat it because I still

718
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: get those feeling. I still get that feeling a lot

719
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: of the time, and I don't know. I think what

720
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: you can do maybe for your friends is like I

721
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: try and just do nice things for people a lot

722
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,959
Speaker 1: of the time, you know, So if you could treat

723
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: your friends to like a nice dinner, you can send them,

724
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, their favorite meal and Postmates or just do

725
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: generous and nice things for people. Um. I just think

726
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: being generous and an open hand, um, it takes away

727
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: the guilt. But it just I don't know well, I

728
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: think if you have the extra amount to to do

729
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: thoughtful things like that, like if you know they're having

730
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: a hard time, like buying groceries, like simple things like that,

731
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: I think you know you can help them with things

732
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: like that, or take them to dinner and you know,

733
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: pick up the check. I think there's ways of doing it.

734
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's your like. I don't think

735
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: if they're your friends that they would want you to

736
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: feel guilty for your success. I think you should be

737
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: very proud because you've chosen the path that you've chosen

738
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: and it just was different than their's. And I don't

739
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: think it's a bad thing. I don't think it's a

740
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: good thing. I think it's just a different life and

741
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: it looks different and maybe at a certain time their

742
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: life will look different in a way that they have

743
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: more than you like. Things just change in life. So

744
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: I would just try to, like like Tanya said, be

745
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: generous where you can and when you can, and not

746
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: try to carry the weight of that. But I don't

747
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: know if the guys have any any I think women

748
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: deal with this a lot more than guys do. I mean,

749
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: I've had the imposter syndrome of what the hell am

750
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: I doing producing this big radio show because I'm just

751
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: an idiot from Madison, Wisconsin who knows no more nor

752
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: less than anybody else in this building or on the

753
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: street practically, you know. So I deal with that, But

754
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: the guilt element, I don't. I don't deal with as much.

755
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: You know. I see friends, You know, high school is

756
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: an interesting thing. It's like a starting line and everybody goes,

757
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: and some of you are going to add a very

758
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: wealthy some of you are really going to struggle. Some

759
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: of you are going to not be alive in twenty years,

760
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: and some of you you never know. It's such a

761
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: it's such a weird roll of the dice for everybody.

762
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: You just don't know how it's gonna turn not. And

763
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: I see people who are doing way better than me,

764
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: and like, and I see people who aren't doing worth

765
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: than me. I'm like, so, um, I don't know, guys,

766
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: I think we're we're like more. It's more instilled than

767
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: us to just kind of be more proud of what

768
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: we have and not really think so much about how

769
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: it compared to what others have. Or I think women

770
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: have that guilt a little bit more. And I'm not

771
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: sure where that comes. I remember at the start of

772
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: the pandemic, UM, I picked up an extra gig helping

773
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: a certain ABC show broadcast from home, and uh, for

774
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: the first time my life, I was getting a check

775
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: from the Walt Disney Company, which is something I've always wanted.

776
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: I got check with Mickey Mouse on it. It was

777
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: really exciting, and I was making a lot of money

778
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: doing this. And I had a lot of friends that

779
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: worked for Disney that had gotten furloughed or laid off

780
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: because you know, because the parks were closed and stuff

781
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: like that. And I felt so guilty because I'm like,

782
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: my my job didn't change through the pandemic, Like my

783
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: regular job did not change at all. And now I'm

784
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm getting more money, I'm getting more work. There's always

785
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: people that need work, and I'm getting more of it.

786
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: And I felt so bad about that, and uh, and

787
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't, you know, I don't I

788
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: don't deserve this in and I like, I talked to

789
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: my therapist about it a lot, and UM, I ultimately

790
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: like was able to be like I'm not, like, you know,

791
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: if if not me, it's just gonna be someone else

792
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: doing this job. It's not. It's just it's a different thing.

793
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: You can't really compare the two. Uh but um yeah,

794
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: and then the the imposter syndrome thing I've I've never

795
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: dealt with that. I've always been very sure of myself,

796
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's a uniquely male thing. I think

797
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: I agree with Mark there. You know, um, men are

798
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: told they're the greatest at old times. So you know,

799
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: we we we don't have those same challenges. Um. But

800
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: then the email was pointed about how you know her

801
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 1: friends are it are really saving lives all day long,

802
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: right and coming home and struggling to pay the rent.

803
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: I understand that guilt. I think I think that makes

804
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. And I'm not I'm not sure

805
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: what to do with that except for what Tony and

806
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: Becker already suggested. Yeah, I mean that's what I think.

807
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: If you have I think that's a sign of empathy.

808
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: Like I think if you're able to think that way

809
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: and even like have that thoughtfulness for your friends and

810
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: like the awareness, I think that's a gift in itself,

811
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people don't have that

812
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: awareness of the like you said, the disparity between paychecks

813
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: and what life looks like. But I think it's just

814
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: as simple as like you being a good friend of

815
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: them and being available to help when you can, whether

816
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: it's financially or time wise, helping with the kids, like,

817
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: whatever you can offer, I think is really thoughtful that

818
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: you even care. So I would be very proud of

819
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: what you've done and what you've been able to make

820
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: for yourself. And like Easton said, if it's not you,

821
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: it's it would have been someone else doing it. And

822
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: I think you can use the gifts and the things

823
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: that you've been given to help those that you love,

824
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: and I think that's that's really special. Yeah, and good

825
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: for you for having those feelings, because if there's one

826
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: thing that we could use more of in the world,

827
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: it's empathy. And that's true in a lot of different

828
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: facets of life. The world would be a much better

829
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 1: place if we all have a little more empathy. Yeah,

830
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: it's um, well, I'm going to prescribe we were happy

831
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: Taylor song. Oh yeah, we were happy? Well, yeah, I

832
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: don't know what that's about. I felt like you just

833
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: read the title like I don't like Yeah, like the title.

834
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 1: It's like a nice title. Okay, all right, I would

835
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: say State of Grace. Yeah, I think Beck is better

836
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: at different. I'm such a lyric person to like every song.

837
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, that's like like when Tany suggested them, Like,

838
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: that's not right. Those lyrics do not match. Grace is good.

839
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: Don't blame me. That's kind of like a revenge song. Anyways. Um,

840
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: we do have an episode this Thursday. It's a game

841
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: episode we love to do. We hope you love to

842
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: listen because we have the best time doing it. So

843
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: we will be back in a johnt I created a

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Speaker 1: similar before, but it's got some more structure to it now.

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Speaker 1: It's not based on somebody else's show like Feud, and

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Speaker 1: it's its own thing. So we'll see how it goes well. Simple,

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Speaker 1: stay tuned. We'll be back Thursday. Don't forget to get

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Speaker 1: good times, good people, and good vibes. And good vibes.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was looking for, all right. We love

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