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Speaker 1: I got mad a little bit lead singer, and then Trevor. Hey,

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Speaker 1: like their families did not just them together, that'd be weird,

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Speaker 1: Brad and had a really good time. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the guy's got a lot happening right now, is and

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Speaker 1: over the chart, including Old Dominion. You know, even talked

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Speaker 1: And at one point I say, it's almost like the

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Speaker 1: us a little review. I know that's annoying to do.

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Speaker 1: I never I never do it, um, but no I

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Speaker 1: So I'd appreciate it if you did that. And other

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Speaker 1: than that, I hope you enjoy this. Brad Tersey of

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Speaker 1: Old Dominion, he was a lead guitar player back in

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Speaker 1: episode three forty six of the Body Cast alright with

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Speaker 1: Brad Tersey of Old Dominion and just pulled my microphone

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Speaker 1: away now talking into nothing. Because I did that. You

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Speaker 1: How's it going good? We're all connected. I'm jealous of

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Speaker 1: your linen shirt? Is that lenin? I don't know what

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Speaker 1: linen shirt. Yeah I was. And I'll go over some

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Speaker 1: Um when you don't know if you saw when you

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Speaker 1: I know your answer is going to be but there

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00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: are some people I know that I'm gonna do finger

425
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: quotes rewrite songs so they can write on it. This

426
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: is This was not that case. He actually actually changed

427
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: every word in the verse, both verses, and he kept

428
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 1: our melody in the first verse, but then he kind

429
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 1: of went off on his own little way on the

430
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 1: second verse. So he on you know, was more than

431
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: an equal writer on the song for sure. And the

432
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: riding front. You have won the Triple Play award, which

433
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: is you've had three number one songs in a year.

434
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: That's the CMA Triple Play, Right, I did that twice actually,

435
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: not to brag, but yeah, yeah, definitely listen. I would

436
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: correct me too if I said so. When you have

437
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 1: won that award because I know all Dominions had multiple

438
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: number ones in a year. What were any of them

439
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: outside cuts that weren't Old Dominion. I believe some of

440
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: them were. I'd have to have to look at the trophies,

441
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 1: the engraving. Ye sure, have to go through your whole

442
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: trophy cave to get to them in the back. But

443
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, definitely there was some. I mean the Old Dominion.

444
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: You know, being in the band has I think I've

445
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: only had let me see cox bar Um, Yeah, I

446
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: walks into yeah, yeah, look at that, Look at that? Yeah, man,

447
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: pro I didn't even push play. But when I sing

448
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: something close, it just plays. That's how our system is here.

449
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: I just do a melody and it popped out. Um.

450
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: But that one. Save it for a rainy day, Save

451
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: a day, that's a bag one. You're getting to play

452
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: this every night, every Saturday with Kenny. He comes out.

453
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: You do it together. You got we go with him.

454
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: Sometimes he'll sneak out. We plays little pop up shows

455
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: that wouldn't make sense if he came out with you.

456
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah it's his song, YEA got it his show? And

457
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: then do you know what else? You get lighted up?

458
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: Was Luke Brian's song that, uh, that is true, but

459
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: I know the answer and I just found it, like

460
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: I did a little google. Uh, well, you have for

461
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: your three number ones break up with him Old Dominion

462
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: than Kenny and Tyler Farr. So that was the one

463
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: triple play, so two of them more songs that weren't

464
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,959
Speaker 1: Old Dominion. Yeah, I look at you, look at you.

465
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: You need to hey, look at you. You've also the

466
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 1: Wild Hearts. Um Walker Hayes, your girlfriend does from that project.

467
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: That's how like when I've I'm gonna say found because

468
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: Walker had a record a long time and go and

469
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: then had gone through some some crap and some struggles,

470
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: and um, I that project that your girlfriend dies. He

471
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: I found it somehow and just fell in love with this.

472
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: I took him out on the road with me. I

473
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: was just so in love with He's one of the

474
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: most goddamn just crazy. And I didn't know you wrote

475
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: that until I started to look at uh yeah, yeah,

476
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: your body of Worker. But that that would be forever ago, huh,

477
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean it was. I've had to be four years

478
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: ago maybe, and that's I'm bad. I'm bad with this,

479
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: but it's only four years ago. I mean COVID. I

480
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: think COVID five years ago times probably I was thinking

481
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: like nine one. I don't know, No, it wasn't that

482
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: long ago. I mean it was I can't be more

483
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: than five years ago. I'm gonna go more than five. Yeah,

484
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: five years all right? So we both well, yeah, that

485
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: song he got, he was been out of shape because

486
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: like someone was like blowing up his comments, you know,

487
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: like getting getting mad about I don't know something. And

488
00:23:53,520 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: so that's where that idea came from. A quick mention

489
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: of army of me. Oh yeah, yeah, you're a band

490
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 1: before Old Dominion, which this is called going through Changes,

491
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: got three million streams that you guys as biggest hit

492
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: of two thousand seven. Here you gow who's singing man?

493
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: That's a Vince Sherman. So he did most of, not

494
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: all of the writing in this band. That was before

495
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: I was really even you know, realized like you could

496
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,719
Speaker 1: purposely write a song. You know, was just a guitar player,

497
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? When did you get good

498
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: at that though? Writing songs? Oh? I mean, I mean

499
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: I found my dad's guitar in the attic when I

500
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: was thirteen, was like this old dusty case opened it up,

501
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: was all like red velvet in there. It was a

502
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: Yamaha acoustic that I still have. And that was it.

503
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I just never put down from that day.

504
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: Are you one of the kids who went into the

505
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: room and just like, you know, send a sam Gin

506
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: because I'm not leaving. I would be you know, I

507
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: didn't really take lessons, so I would I would figure out,

508
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, on cassettes like I would. I would just

509
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: figure stuff out by myself on by here, you know, rewinding,

510
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: playing over and over and over and over and over again.

511
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: So was it a situation where you found music and

512
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: you fell in love with the idea and the sound

513
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: and sonically and you were just a whole new or

514
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,239
Speaker 1: like many things that I started to try to get

515
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: good at, was it as for me? It was an

516
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: escape from things, is escape from being bullied or being

517
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: and I got good at things. I got listen, I'm

518
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: only funny because I had to be so I can

519
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: get the crap beat out of me. And so was

520
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 1: music to you while I discovered this and this is

521
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: my path because it feels so amazing, or was it

522
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna practice so I can get good at something

523
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: and show those guys or no, it's it was more

524
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: of the former. You know. I was never luckily. I

525
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: mean I actually was bullied and stuff um as a kid,

526
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: especially in middle school. Middle school kids are the worst.

527
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: Uh they still bully me if I'm being honest, I

528
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: mean even today. But I didn't use music as in

529
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: that wasn't my escape from it. I just liked the

530
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: sound of it in the field of it and uh,

531
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, the life that looked like it could provide,

532
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: you know, that was kind of what got me into it.

533
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: The romantic version of what a rock star is. Was

534
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: that appealing to you? Oh yeah? I mean like my

535
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: you know, my first favorite band was Guns and Roses

536
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: and I used to watch that, you know, Paradise City

537
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: video and just be like, this looks like so much.

538
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: Did you want to be Slash or Axel. I wanted

539
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: to be Slash. I gotta let that was my first

540
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: electric guitar was less Paul because of Slash and even

541
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: then it was my first concert. The church youth group

542
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: took us to, uh, Guns and Roses. I think he

543
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: didn't realize what he got himself into there. The church

544
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: youth group took you guys to see guns and Rose.

545
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: That is an interesting yeah, religious filter trip. It was

546
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: interesting the remember the lights went out and uh Axel

547
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: just screamed into the mic. Can I can? Yeah, of

548
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: course he goes you know where you fucking are? He's

549
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: like c C is like, oh god wow. So with

550
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: the success of radio, with the success of streaming, there

551
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: is oftentimes some people get that and then some people

552
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: get the industry cred the the awards, and sometimes they're split, honestly,

553
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: um because people that have a lot of the like

554
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: for example, I think Kane Brown suffers from he is

555
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: so big and it's setting all these streaming records and

556
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: he's like top of the list, but they won't. He

557
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: doesn't get any industry award and and he's just an example.

558
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: And I could go both ways, but you guys have

559
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: somehow you got to both like what what do you

560
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: credit that too? Because again you've won the A C

561
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: M S, the c M A S, you've got the

562
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: big kids. What do you think And you know, you

563
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: can play humble and say I always got lucky, but

564
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: I mean, really, if you were evaluating it in a classroom,

565
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: and what do you think you guys did right that

566
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: allowed you to kind of walk on both sides of that. Well.

567
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think part of it is a great

568
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: management team, to be honest. I mean, you know there

569
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 1: they are management and the managers Jessee Alabama, and they

570
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: have great booking agents and great uh avenues into building

571
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 1: us as a touring band, you know, to get us

572
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: in front of people, um, on the right shows, on

573
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: the right stages. And then coupled with the fact that

574
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: our music, for whatever reason, uh, which is the one

575
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: thing you can't control, resonated with people. You know, I

576
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: think it it sounded maybe a little different than the

577
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: average country band country song. Um. And you know, the

578
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: university you know, aligned and decided that people were gonna

579
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: like us, you know, and those are the things I mean,

580
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's why. And then you know,

581
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: for the we still don't know. Every time we're like,

582
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: are we gonna win again this year? I don't know.

583
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: You know, It's like I feel like there's also a

584
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: lot of new people always coming into these other categories

585
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: that there maybe isn't so many so much new blood

586
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: in our category. Oh, I think you're not giving yourself

587
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: enough credit. I understand that sentiment, but I don't think

588
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: that's why you guys win, because nobody else comes along,

589
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: I think, And good for you you did manage to

590
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: get back to the humble cards, so I do. I

591
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, there's nothing you know wrong.

592
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: You came back to it. I like that, just like

593
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: a good song, you came back to it. Um, here's

594
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: my unsolicited opinion. I think it is a mixture of

595
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: a the reason that I love you guys. You just

596
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: write great songs. Like like you just write great songs.

597
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: And even if I didn't like you as people, I

598
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: would still like the music in the band because there

599
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: are artists, and I do have to separate art from

600
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: artists sometimes. I think we all do because there's a

601
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: lot of relationships, a lot of different people, a lot

602
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: of the personalities. Where there are artists that I just

603
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: as as a person, I have no interest in. Where

604
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: we don't get along, and that's okay, we'll never get along,

605
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: but I can love what they do as an artist. Um. Luckily,

606
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: I really like you guys, and I love your music.

607
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: So I think it starts with the song. You're all

608
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: songwriters first. This is my this is me just talking.

609
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: You're all songwriters first, which you're not. You just told

610
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: us you were playing guitar first, but in my heart,

611
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: you've only been. You came out of the like you

612
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: ripped out of your mom's vagina, and you were like,

613
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: I got this young, So yes, that's my that's the

614
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: And then I also think because you are songwriters, not

615
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: just for the band, but you've created in so many

616
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: places and you have so many relationships, positive ones where

617
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: you have not just been old dominion. I think the

618
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: fact that you guys all right for other folks, and

619
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: I think that helps too when it comes to going.

620
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: They deserve the cred to, not just the success with

621
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: radio and stream. I always wonder about like how I mean,

622
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: I think more and more of our fans knowing that

623
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: because we put that part in our know now a lot.

624
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: We have a little acoustic section where, you know, we

625
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: we'll play a little first chorus of all these songs

626
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: and kind of tell our story. And there's a lot

627
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: of people that always come up to us after and sach,

628
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: I can't believe I didn't know that about you guys,

629
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, we sometimes take for

630
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: granted that people would know that, but you know, even

631
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: the people industry that vote on these award shows or

632
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 1: the radio guys. I don't know if any of them.

633
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: I would think they do. I do, and I love

634
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: not to get radio guests credit, don't get me wrong,

635
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: but I would think that they do, because that's like

636
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: the you guys are like the super talented every man

637
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: if that makes it like that, and I get that,

638
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: and I'm not super talented, but I get Oh, you're

639
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: just a normal persons. Why people like you, you know

640
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: when when research comes back about me and I'm like,

641
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not normal and bizarre neurotic, yes, but

642
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's that's what's represented by you guys. And

643
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: I think you write great songs first and foremost, and

644
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: you do a lot of things with a lot of

645
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: different people behind the scenes, and you know, it's pretty

646
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: cool to see you guys do it both at the

647
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: same time and it's just a rare thing to watch,

648
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: like Combs does it and gets it. But then you

649
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: have people like Ashty McBride on the other side, who

650
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: doesn't win the awards that she should and gets a

651
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: lot of the industry credit, and you're like, when's this

652
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: gonna catch up? But she deserves some more awards she

653
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: started a little bit. Now she has in the last

654
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: like some of the big ones that she deserves she

655
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: has in the past year or so. But for a

656
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: long time she was the one where she would get

657
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: the awards. This is my point. She would get the awards,

658
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: but not that have the number ones and she just

659
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: had a number one Carlie Pierce. So anyway, my point

660
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: of all that is, you guys are awesome. Thanks man.

661
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm just a big fan. So whenever an artist like

662
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: a Keith takes a song that you've written to say

663
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: I want to change, it is a hard to not

664
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: take that personally at first. Oh no, I mean the fact,

665
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: like I said, Keith Urban is one of one of

666
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: the most respected artists in the genre. For me, I

667
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: mean every time I hear a song of his, I've

668
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: wanted to have a song cut by him forever. You know,

669
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: he's just a great musician and you know he's going

670
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: to do your song well. You know, there's just no

671
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: way around it. Um So no, I mean I was

672
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: happy when he when he said that, you know, and

673
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: let's he put so many cool lines in it, and

674
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: that's ideal. I mean, it's so hard to to write

675
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: and form, you know, for someone else's heart what they

676
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: want to say, you know, So for him to uh

677
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: to say what he wanted to say and for and

678
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: to put that to what we said, I mean, it

679
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: was kind of the perfect, perfect opportunity being a great guitarist,

680
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: which you are and I am not. So it's like

681
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: we're speaking a different language communicating with when we talk

682
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: about guitars. I'm gonna try. I can play like I

683
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: don't know twelve chords, right, that's all I need to

684
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: do to play conficent. Heck, I could do in three

685
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: Like name that tune? I canna do it in three chord?

686
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Would name that tun? Well, here's every song I know

687
00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: three chords. But when you play or you write a solo,

688
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: to do you write? Can you write it thinking about

689
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: it and then play all that you've thought about? Or

690
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: is writing a guitar solo a little bit of playing

691
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: it and feeling it at the same time? Oh? Yeah,

692
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: For me, I'm not like the the musicians of the

693
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: highest caliber can That's what makes like a very high

694
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: quality musician is that they can play what's in their

695
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: mind immediately. For me, I know, like patterns and notes

696
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: that are going to work. Um So for the most

697
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: part on on the record, when I play a solo,

698
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: it happens every time. I'll just wing one down that

699
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: when I'm not even supposed to be playing it, and

700
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: that will be there, and then I'll go on trying

701
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: to chase a better one, and then they'll always every

702
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: one of the controls, like just keep the first one,

703
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: the first one where I don't even know what's happening.

704
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of reacting and kind of just going

705
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: for it. Now, do you have to remember that solo

706
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: exactly or is it all just kind of like uh,

707
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: like the game of horse shoes as long as you're

708
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: kind of close. Well, I mean, you know, I can

709
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: take No one's gonna fire me if I take liberties,

710
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: you know in live and stuff. But or like snap back,

711
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: is that there's a big solo at the end of

712
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: that one. I actually did kind of compose that one

713
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: because I went for so long without playing anything good

714
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,479
Speaker 1: improvising that I had to be like, Okay, I gotta

715
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: actually like think of what to play and then and

716
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: then learn it without a guitar on your hand. We'll

717
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: get little exercise here, and I beg that you humor me.

718
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: Could you do that solo with your mouth without playing it?

719
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, let's go. Come on, Brad, give me,

720
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: just give me the first narranny and ranny and right,

721
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean I can't. I can't. That's not the right key.

722
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: I knew it would be hard for him, Mike, I

723
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: got him stumped the guitar. Yeah, you'd have to give

724
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: me like a starting note. Um, I was who tweets

725
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: from the account? Because you're all funny? So who tweets

726
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: from the account? Got me? I don't even have Twitter

727
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: on my phone or if I've never tweeted one thing,

728
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: I think it's Matt okay, makes sense. I do you

729
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: have the Instagram? Yes? Why one not the other? Um,

730
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've I've kind of went forever, like

731
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm kind of the cmud the social media curmudgeon, you know, like,

732
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: oh it's bad, I don't want to be on it.

733
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: But but I recently sort of just embraced Instagram and

734
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: I like, I got my little blue checkmark, and I'm like,

735
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna like go for it.

736
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: And it's been fun. Is it still funny that? Or

737
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: is it funny? They're not funny than funny. They're not

738
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: funny depending on the season of life. When they can

739
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: future you guys for Brothers Osborne. It's just amazing to

740
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: me that it keeps happening. It's so funny. It's amazing,

741
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: Like you'll see a story and it's like that you

742
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: guys being called Brothers Osborne or them being called Old Dominion,

743
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: and it's just random that it's always you two. They're

744
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: only two people at least, like I would see if it. Yeah,

745
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: if it was like another bit like kind of like

746
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: three or Zack Brown Brown Band, it would be funny

747
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: if it was a little big talent, because yeah, they

748
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: have ladies. I don't know. It is weird how it's

749
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: always those two. You said you wrote today, Yeah, what

750
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: was that idea? I'm telling me the title, but what

751
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: was the general idea? Love loss? It was party life,

752
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you the title. It's called lucky all

753
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: the time, like some guys can't catch a break. I

754
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: guess some guys get lucky all the time. It's come

755
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: about just how you're somehow just life is good. You know.

756
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: I feel like we should beat that title out in

757
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: the part of that because someone's gonna steal it and

758
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: that someone's me over now, you know. Mike and I

759
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: talked about how we need an app where I do,

760
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: especially because if I'm writing a song, and again, I

761
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: don't write real songs like you you are really good.

762
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: I am an amateur, but I write songs with punch

763
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: lines and I you know, we do songs for really

764
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: Our little music group just came from my comedy act

765
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: and then they were just like when you play fast

766
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: couples were like, oh crap. We had a higher a

767
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: band and so right funny songs. But I often wonder

768
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: if sometimes I'm writing a song with the melody of

769
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: something I've heard and don't realize that I've heard and

770
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: it's just been stored up there. So I need a

771
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: nap that I push and I go, because here's the

772
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: melody for a song that I have right now. No,

773
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: not Zama Zina d Indiana, damn dam but dude, if

774
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: they so that's just I don't know if it's the

775
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: same thing, and maybe like canny song, but I needed

776
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: to spit back at me if enough of that, if

777
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: I even play it or seeing it, if enough of

778
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: that would get me sued. I feel like you've got

779
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: to know in your heart. You're like, I can't do this,

780
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: like this is not good, you know what? But I

781
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: think that about the stuff that I isn't even legal.

782
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm just like I write something like, oh, you shouldn't

783
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: do this, so you might not want to do it,

784
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: but you won't get sued, you know. So when you

785
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: and I've mentioned this before, I have insurance. And my

786
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: business manager was like, hey, like, I get it, but

787
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to get sued. She's me, you know,

788
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: she said. And you're not a real musician, so you

789
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: might steal something and not know it. So we need

790
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: to get insurance. I'm not sure what it's called. So

791
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: I have it, and I just wonder what the amount

792
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: with with what you're putting out. How you don't even

793
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: rewrite your own songs. I do. First, there's certainly songs

794
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: of mine that I could sue myself for for sure.

795
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: I mean, just because you know, you only have so

796
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 1: many natural tendencies melodically, you know, and especially I feel

797
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: like versus melodies can sometimes get a little more repetitive

798
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: than than chorus melodies. Um, do you ever hear a

799
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: song in town and you're like, man, I think that's

800
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: awful what I've done, but it actually may not be.

801
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 1: I mean it really may not, because there only somebody

802
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: knows so many doesn't have more to be honest, Yeah,

803
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean I guess if you, I guess if you

804
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: wrote better songs that happen a lot more. Huh. That's

805
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: that's what I think. If I could just write some

806
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: better ones that people would steal from me, I forget

807
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: what song was, like, Um, what's the same? It isn't

808
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: that the party? Don't you stay with me? Yeah? He

809
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: didn't even get suit Tom Petty, which I mean that

810
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: won't back down? That was a brutal one for me

811
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: the first time obviously did not. It's not thinking about

812
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: that song when he wrote that. Agree in the fact

813
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: that it's such a known song. Yeah, that's like they

814
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: for sure stole that song from Stairway to Heaven where

815
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: it's like it's such a known thing that no one

816
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: would purposefully do that. Well, you're talking about won't back down? Yes,

817
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's such a known song that you'll be like,

818
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: did you think he really? Now? It does sound similar? Well,

819
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: the notes are, yes, the same. Won't you stay even

820
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: even how the words I know, I just I just couldn't.

821
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, but I feel like there's

822
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: no chance that any of them ever thought about that

823
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: song once. I absolutely agree. But sometimes even if it's accidental.

824
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: Bird Lines, on the other hand, Yeah, that one sound fun.

825
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: That one, you can definitely go. Okay, how many days

826
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: a week are you writing? Now? Around three? And are

827
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: you booked out for months? Yeah? And do you leave

828
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: those other days open in case something comes up for golf?

829
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: I leave the moving for golf. Are you How often

830
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: are you playing? Oh my god, I'm obsessed? So really,

831
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: where do you live close to me? I live in

832
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: East close enough. We played yesterday Jordan Davis, who's yeah, buddy,

833
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: I wrote with him yesterday. We played golf yesterday. In

834
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: the afternoon we played until three. Wait, what's today? Wednesday? Wednesday?

835
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: We played golf yesterday. I'm sorry I wrote him two

836
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: days ago. Yeah, I knew something was fishy about that.

837
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: So how good are you though? Because I mean I'm

838
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm think I'm better than the average golfer and my

839
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: handicap as a A six and a half. Okay, yeah,

840
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: you're too good for us, probably like IO eight four.

841
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: That's good. That shot four is all time. But that's

842
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: what the guy says, who is way better. That's good man.

843
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Literally my last scores. I mean I just shot seventy

844
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: seven yesterday. Yeah, that's a different level. But I don't

845
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: don't really do that. I'm usually low eighties. Eighties when

846
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: you try to play a couple of times a week.

847
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we play every day before the show wherever

848
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: we are, you get and then all you guys played golf.

849
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: He used to when we first started, but he doesn't

850
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: play anymore. It's just Trevor and I and I mean,

851
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: I have no kids or wife. So when I'm here,

852
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: I come go the driving range, I'm playing by myself.

853
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna I'll hit you up next time

854
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: we go all the see like I see that, you know,

855
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: track me and you got or whatever over They're like,

856
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: I can't get I couldn't get that in my house

857
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: because I feel like I would break my elbow, like

858
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 1: I would never stop. I used to think that, Yeah, yeah,

859
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: it's like having a whole bunch of really awesome chocolate

860
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: cupcakes in the fridge, though at some point you're like

861
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: a lot of chalk cupcakes. Yeah, I never thought I

862
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: could matter. And also part of the fun of golf

863
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: is watching the ball flot through the year, you know,

864
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: not when you're eat hit into the screen, it's like,

865
00:42:51,480 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: you know, no, that's pretty awesome. What And as someone

866
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: who creates music and performs music, I would imagine, because

867
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: I live a life similarly, that it's hard to find

868
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: things at least a lot of things that inspire you musically,

869
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: Like you just hear it out of nowhere and you're like,

870
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: holy crap, like what is like the last And it's

871
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: a tough question. And I'll do my I'll do my

872
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: little trick here where I'm getting nervous. Yeah, And that's

873
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do this. I'm like an Alexa place

874
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: of music. That's what I do. I don't really think

875
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: about it my for me, Ben Rector has a new

876
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: album out and I love Ben and we're good. Buddiest

877
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: guy can golf to by the way, Holy crap. Actually

878
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: he was at a pebble beach when I believe he

879
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: is he is the joy of music. The last record

880
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: and on first listen it's a lot of piano and

881
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: some horns and not usually something I would be drawn

882
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: to immediately, but then after listening to him, my god, dang,

883
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: Like this is an artist who shows you not just

884
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: his life but also his transformation as a human. He's

885
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: getting old sharing that it's not just about partying his

886
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: new song. It's just something like that kind of it's

887
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: about life. And I think the life is in the

888
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: title of it, in my best life, Yeah, living my

889
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: best life. Yeah, great song. So what is it for you? Like,

890
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: what what's give me something that you've had in the

891
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: last few years where you kind of had to take

892
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: a go Wow, man, that's what. There's this guy I

893
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: think is Bahamas. Is that his name? That's the one guy. Um.

894
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of the song. We can

895
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: find it though. We have a whole internet over here.

896
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: I can look at if you if you like computer screen,

897
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: I can. I can find it all the time with

898
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: with words lost in the light. But he's the guy.

899
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: He did something and he's got a cool like a

900
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: little style. He's got some I think he's this one

901
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: guy produce it everything by himself. Um, and uh, And

902
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: it caught my ear, you know, I just have the

903
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: radio on and I'm the one who's like super digging

904
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: into everything. I just if something comes on when I'm

905
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: when I'm in the car or whatever. You know, I'll

906
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,479
Speaker 1: be like, oh, what is that? You know? I will

907
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: not watch anything to do with comedy or jokes when

908
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm writing comedy or jokes purposefully because I don't. I

909
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: don't want to go out that's really funny. I should

910
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: also do something like that, not even like subconsciously, I

911
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: just be like, oh, that's such a funny theme. I

912
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: should probably so I don't because I think it affects

913
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: me and I'm not strong enough to fight it. Um,

914
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: if you're is there anything any guard rails you put

915
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: up around yourself? Really? I mean, honestly, it's you know,

916
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: I think as long as you're you're conscious of not

917
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: totally ripping it off. You know, I think hearing a

918
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: groove or I even remember when I used to like

919
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: when I would learn a new guitar chord, it would

920
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: be like, oh, a song would come out of that,

921
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: just by learning a new voicing or something. So I

922
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: think listening to stuff and watching stuff is never off

923
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: limits for me, you know. I don't think again, I'm

924
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: not gonna hopefully won't go too far and ripping it off.

925
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: But you know, everyone steals from everyone, doesn't that somebody

926
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: said that it's hard, not like said it's vertin ly. Still,

927
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: it's not even stealing. It's just like a collection that

928
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: we all pull things from, and the collection is only

929
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: so big. Well, you guys are just you're killing it.

930
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: The new record here, it's it's all. It's thirteen songs,

931
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen songs, right, Oh yeah, I think so, it's

932
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: it's whatever the case is. I found eleven I loved.

933
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: I can tell you the two that I pulled off

934
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: my list, but that is very rare. That's my point though,

935
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: Like I can, I'll listen to every song on and

936
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: I would like to recommend to my folks listen to this.

937
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: And I know I'm not here. I'm not discovering new

938
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: land here, but uh like old dominions where it's at

939
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: even like there's some something to the B side anymore.

940
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: But even the album cuts, Like I think my favorite

941
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: songs from you guys aren't the ones that make the

942
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: radio because they weren't meant to make the radio. There

943
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: are songs that are meant to make the radio, meaning

944
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: you gotta be this long. Maybe we'll do an up tempo,

945
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: maybe we'll build a song that's super fun. Um, but

946
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: just a big fan of what you guys do creatively,

947
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: who you are as people. UM, A little intimidated to

948
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: play golf with you. If you're that good? How far

949
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: do you hit it? I mean I don't Yeah, no, no,

950
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: nobody hits it? Nobo do you play with it that far?

951
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: Final question, the most overrated artist in Nashville is Oh god,

952
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. It would be awesome if somebody's answer that.

953
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm glad you said that. You

954
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: guys you can follow old Dominion music. Now you said

955
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: you have an Instagram? Are you can? I give that

956
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: out your personal one? Sure? I think it's his Brady.

957
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: I actually have a better time. Who's more fun to follow?

958
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: Brad Francis Percy, He's got his own He's he's really fun.

959
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: He's at Stephan French. He's like Bignet's and it's a

960
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: whole whole different person. He's a you know, a little fancier,

961
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: but I mean old Dominion songs on the top thirty.

962
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: You got the Keith Urban song at six as of

963
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: right now, could be up in the New Darius song.

964
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: So you're kind of everywhere are you tired right now?

965
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm about a seven out of ten good,

966
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: which is basically a ten out of ten. I do

967
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: full interviews at eight and a half out of ten

968
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: sometimes and I tell Mike, hey, I'll send him a

969
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: voice mamma. And I was like, hey, man, about a

970
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: minute twelve to eighteen, I don't know what I was

971
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: talking about you, and he will go and he will

972
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: go back and go, okay, you're clear on that, or

973
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: he'll go, yeah, you made no sense. So I'm gonna

974
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: go and pull that. And so I thanks for coming over,

975
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: my pleasure, Thanks for having me. We've done almost an

976
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: hour here and I'm gonna go work out. What are

977
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: you gonna do the rest of the day. I think

978
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that too. Actually, well, my guy's out front.

979
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: You want to hear it. I don't know if I

980
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: can work out on the loaf First. All I hear

981
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: is an excuse. I actually we That's what's funny you

982
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: bring that up. It's the loafer workout. You have to

983
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: wear loafers while you work out, so you're fit right now? Yeah,

984
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: you're just here, Brad. Thanks for coming by, man, Just

985
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: a big fan. Keep it up. Just you're such a

986
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: good player and and love your songs obviously. And finally

987
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask, this is gonna be in question. You've

988
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: been writing these songs by yourself. Well you do a

989
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: terse record Francis Lucky. Maybe one day, you know. I

990
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll ever like go for it and

991
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: try to, but I think i'd like to disrecord some stuff,

992
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I don't even think you have to go.

993
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not limited space anymore. I mean, Francis,

994
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: I would take that luck, the Francis Lucky album, Francis Luck,

995
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: and listen to it all right, Maybe I'll make you

996
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: a little compilation. You could tell me if the son

997
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: that's worth it or not. That's always weird. I had

998
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: had friend send me a song. It's like tell me

999
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: if I don't need to know if it's a radio song,

1000
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: but is it a good song or not? And it's

1001
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: just a no win for me. Well it's not. You can't.

1002
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can like a song and I

1003
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: cannot like it. No, but I will not reply back

1004
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't like it. You have to be diplomatic. Tell

1005
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: me you don't like it. He's not that close of

1006
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: a friend. I have friends that are I'm super close

1007
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: with that I could be like for me a few Yeah,

1008
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: who could you do that with? I mean out of

1009
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: your band, out of your band, out of the band.

1010
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: Understand what artists are you close enough with or even

1011
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: a songwriter that has hits where you like? Don't not

1012
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: that you have, but you could go and then I'll

1013
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: give you one too. Where you go. I don't like.

1014
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like, get a song you've done better.

1015
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean I have to name the songwriter. You're saying

1016
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: to do that with, Yes, but I'm not saying name

1017
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: a song, whether it's ever happened. Who are you close

1018
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: enough to? What artist or songwriter? I mean, I've written

1019
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: a lot. I've done Jonathan Singleton for a long time.

1020
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: And if you wrote a bad song, you could go

1021
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: that ain't your best work. Yeah all right, um, okay,

1022
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you what. So I tricked you.

1023
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: All right, there we go. Brad Tursey of Old Dominion

1024
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: and also of two Times see him a triple play fame.

1025
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: Good to see a Brad And that's it, and you

1026
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: guys go check out if he's Old Dominions down in town,

1027
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: Go see him, and time tequila and therapy. It is

1028
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: thirteen songs, eleven good ones. All right, we'll see you

1029
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: next time. Everybody