WEBVTT - The Top Tech News Stories of 2012: Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Hello again, everyone, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>tech stuff. My name is Chris Poulette and I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>editor at how stuff works dot com. Sitting here crushed

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<v Speaker 1>me as always, his senior writer, Jonathan Strickland c is

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<v Speaker 1>for cookie. That's good enough for me. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a moment ago. Yes, I told Tyler I was

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go. He was ready to hit record, and

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<v Speaker 1>then took a big bite out of a cookie because

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<v Speaker 1>that's professional, to be fair. That cookie was was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at me funny and now it's not because it has

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<v Speaker 1>no head, the snowman cookie. Yeah, holidays, and and saying

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<v Speaker 1>that we are approaching the end of two thousand twelve. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's been a different sort of year for tech.

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<v Speaker 1>We decided to do a year wrap up in tech

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<v Speaker 1>and um this year. I mean that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>article that appears on virtually every website that has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with anything. Um. You know, the news sites have

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<v Speaker 1>this year, and news and the entertainment websites have the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the who got divorced, who got divorced, who

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<v Speaker 1>who passed away? And those kinds of things. We all

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<v Speaker 1>like reading these kinds of articles. Um, but um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been going back through things. It seems like this

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<v Speaker 1>year we didn't We had a lot of news, but

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<v Speaker 1>there weren't these big, kind of monumental things that have

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<v Speaker 1>happened like in years past, which is weird. See I

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<v Speaker 1>look back at two thousand and twelve and I see

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty major stories. I mean, things that I think

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<v Speaker 1>of as having the potential to affect technology well into

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<v Speaker 1>the future. But I mean you could argue that there

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing as big as say Steve Jobs passing away

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<v Speaker 1>that was such a huge story in two thousand eleven

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, there wasn't anything of that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>nothing that had that kind of spectacle around it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or or or things that were really fun in tech. Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there weren't a couple of stories, but nothing again, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that was like, uh, the debut of a brand new

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<v Speaker 1>technology that just blew everyone away, like you know again,

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<v Speaker 1>like the iPad when it came out of Grant. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't yell at me, people, I know the iPad wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>brand new in the sense that tablet computers have been

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<v Speaker 1>around since the nineties, but it was the first one

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<v Speaker 1>to really kind of be a success in the consumer

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<v Speaker 1>market or or even you know when the keep sticking

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<v Speaker 1>with Apple, but they really are good at introducing form

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<v Speaker 1>factors and making them work in the marketplace. But the iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that making that was the big news because

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<v Speaker 1>it created the smartphone market in the consumer um world,

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the Western hemisphere anyway. UM, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have any of that this year. UM. I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to say that part of the reason why those

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<v Speaker 1>were so successful as quote unquote big news story eas

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<v Speaker 1>is partially because um, you know, the PR push behind it,

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<v Speaker 1>and UM the impact that that had. I think that that,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, UM escalated those particular stories for Apple. Apples

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<v Speaker 1>talented it at at generating prum And we should point

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<v Speaker 1>out so we are not We're not like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say that Apple is the greatest company ever. They just

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<v Speaker 1>have a real success with this PR push that Chris

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<v Speaker 1>is talking about. So I want to point that out

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<v Speaker 1>because I used to be accused of having an anti

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<v Speaker 1>Mac bias, and I don't want people saying that now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a pro Apple bias. It's not true. He really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed that that reputation. I did for for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>The one iTunes comment lasted me a good two years,

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half years, something like that. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's start off with talking about two thousand twelve and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the big stories and some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that happened. UM. I was gonna start off by talking

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<v Speaker 1>about c E S two thousand twelve because that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of opens the year, especially within the first week or

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<v Speaker 1>week and a half of January, and U C S

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve introduced several different technologies. Mostly it was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of incremental improvements on existing tech, So we

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<v Speaker 1>saw a lot of super thin TVs, saw a few

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<v Speaker 1>ultra high definition television sets being bandied about, mostly in

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<v Speaker 1>the prototype stage. I expect that in two thousand thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>will see a lot more of those at c E

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<v Speaker 1>S UM. In fact, it would shock me to not

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<v Speaker 1>see at least a dozen, you know, four K type

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<v Speaker 1>sets at c E S and two thousand thirteen. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>those were general trends. Didn't see as much three D

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and twelve as we had in years past.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the consumer reaction to three D has been lackluster,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's sort of has set that to the side.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you still have a lot of television. They

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<v Speaker 1>are three D capable, but that doesn't seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>featured as a, you know, a killer feature anymore. But

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<v Speaker 1>the there was a few things that came out in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve at ces that caught attention. Ultra books

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<v Speaker 1>debuted at ces UM. They have not really done that

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<v Speaker 1>well in the market, but they are you know, high performance,

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<v Speaker 1>sleek laptop computers and they have there's a very specific

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<v Speaker 1>set of parameters that you have to follow in order

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<v Speaker 1>to be considered an Ultra book. We actually did an

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<v Speaker 1>episode on it, so we won't really dive into it,

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<v Speaker 1>but those made kind of a splash at c S.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the Roku Streaming Stick was something that caught

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of attention at this idea of a a

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<v Speaker 1>USB like thumb drive sized device that was a Roku

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<v Speaker 1>box essentially in that format, you would plug it into

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<v Speaker 1>a USB port on a TV and it would give

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<v Speaker 1>the television the Roku uh feature set, so you could

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<v Speaker 1>watch streaming video over your over the Internet through your

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<v Speaker 1>television and not have to hook up an actual set

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<v Speaker 1>top box, which was kind of cool. And that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>on sale now, so that that did come to market

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes we see things that sees that are awesome

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<v Speaker 1>but never go anywhere. Um, And it seems like that

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<v Speaker 1>is an form factor improvement, um, which which would in

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<v Speaker 1>a way sort of exemplify what I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say a minute ago, which is, um, you know, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>had Roku devices out there. Um. This, you know, was

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<v Speaker 1>a big improvement in in form factors. You know, much

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<v Speaker 1>tinier than the box. You could plug it right into

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the TV itself. Um, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't generate the same kind of story as a brand

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<v Speaker 1>new O. MG, this is a really cool thing. You

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<v Speaker 1>should check it out sort of news story, right right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't anything that was so revolutionary as to uh

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<v Speaker 1>to really become v Darling of c E S two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and twelve. There there weren't any technologies I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of that were so uh buzzworthy as to capture

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's attention. Uh. I think the coolest thing I saw

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<v Speaker 1>there was the maker Butt replicator. You know, three D

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<v Speaker 1>printers are awesome, and maker Butt creates a pretty compelling one.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, now, UM, you know these devices, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about those a long time ago too. We discussed rapid prototyping.

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<v Speaker 1>Three D printers aren't brand new, but Jonathan's right that

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<v Speaker 1>the topic has come up quite a lot in the

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<v Speaker 1>news in uh simply because um maker bought in some

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of other companies have made them more I

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<v Speaker 1>won't say affordable, I will say more affordable than they

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<v Speaker 1>used to be. That the kind of thing too that

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<v Speaker 1>has a form factor where you can PLoP it down

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<v Speaker 1>on your very large desk and uh you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>there's it's starting to make it possible to create your

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<v Speaker 1>own uh stuff from scratch, and we'll introduce I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny. I think we're sort of in between on

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<v Speaker 1>that news cycle because now that we have three D

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<v Speaker 1>stuff available to us to print, you know, in this context,

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<v Speaker 1>um it's still kind of expensive. But now we're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to see organizations um upset with the idea of three

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<v Speaker 1>D printing because now you can go print your own

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<v Speaker 1>things that maybe under copyright. And I think that will

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<v Speaker 1>be the big story going forward. You'll see more of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's already started, but it's not really hit the mainstream news.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I could see Ikea becoming a big um uh

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<v Speaker 1>critic of this sort of technology, right because you could

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<v Speaker 1>go and you could say, hey, I really love this

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<v Speaker 1>design of this chair, but why would I buy this

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<v Speaker 1>chair when I can just print it at home, or

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<v Speaker 1>I can I can maybe even tweak this design a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, not so much that you know, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell where it came from, but just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>like I just want to add this one little element

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Yeah, that could definitely become a thing. Um

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<v Speaker 1>So those were sort of the items we saw at

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<v Speaker 1>CES two thousand twelve. Again, nothing that really jumped out,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, but some interesting improvements on stuff. I also

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<v Speaker 1>had a great time at c S two thousand twelve

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<v Speaker 1>because I got to hang out with some of my

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<v Speaker 1>my yeah peers in the technology space, so folks like

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Merritt and I his actar and um uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Will Harris, and it was it was a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm looking forward to two thousand and thirteen to

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<v Speaker 1>see what what news stuff will come out. Moving into

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<v Speaker 1>actual some news stories in two thousand twelve, The first

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<v Speaker 1>one I have is the raid on the on Kim

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<v Speaker 1>dot COM's house in New Zealand, the I Got upload

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<v Speaker 1>raid that was done as part of a joint effort

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<v Speaker 1>between United States federal agents and New Zealand police officers,

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<v Speaker 1>and we did the whole episode about Mega Upload. So

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<v Speaker 1>again I won't go too far into this, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, that was a big deal. The idea

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<v Speaker 1>of this international crackdown on someone who was accused of

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<v Speaker 1>creating a service that is essentially, according at least according

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<v Speaker 1>to the allegations, essentially designed to allow piracy uh of

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<v Speaker 1>intellectual property, and that that was the main purpose of

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<v Speaker 1>the site. Now whether or not that really is the

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<v Speaker 1>main purpose of the site is completely debatable, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>essentially the allegation and the rate made big news, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean from for a good part of two thousand and twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a story that unraveled throughout the months of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve where we learned that, uh, the agents

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<v Speaker 1>acted without complete authorization. They didn't have all the paperwork

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<v Speaker 1>necessary to conduct the raid that they did, so that

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<v Speaker 1>caused some problems. Uh. There's also questions about whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not it was even legal for the United States agents

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<v Speaker 1>to get involved in something that was not a US

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<v Speaker 1>centric matter. You're talking about a company that's based out

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<v Speaker 1>of Hong Kong and a the leader of the company

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<v Speaker 1>was a resident of New Zealand. So there were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of issues that came up about this, and this

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<v Speaker 1>story has not concluded. It's still playing out, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna continue on into two thousand their team. Although I

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<v Speaker 1>should say we are recording this at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>December two thousand twelve, so technically there will be a

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<v Speaker 1>month's worth of stuff that could potentially happen between when

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<v Speaker 1>we record this and when it publishes, in which case

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just say we were running long and we had

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<v Speaker 1>to end our episode. Oh, I thought you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to say that. We just didn't want to offer any

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<v Speaker 1>spoiler alert. We knew about it, just in case some

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<v Speaker 1>of you guys are pirating the episodes before we published them,

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<v Speaker 1>which would be quite a feat. Please don't try. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a here's an example of the very kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you're talking about, because, um, not long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>we also recorded another big legal thing that affected the

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<v Speaker 1>world of tech, which is UH famous tech um entrepreneur

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<v Speaker 1>John McAfee being uh and a person of interest in

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<v Speaker 1>a murder case in Belize where he's been living. Um

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<v Speaker 1>he had been in in his in his parlance, he

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<v Speaker 1>had been sort of harassed by the authorities because apparently

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<v Speaker 1>they thought that he was into the manufacture of illegal drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>which he says he wasn't. Uh and uh. When he

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<v Speaker 1>saw the authorities approaching his home after a neighbor UM

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<v Speaker 1>was found dead, UM not far from his property, not

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<v Speaker 1>far from his property, UM, he thought the authorities were

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<v Speaker 1>coming to at least at what he claims is that

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<v Speaker 1>he thought that they were coming to harass him about

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<v Speaker 1>drugs again, so he UM he high tailed it out

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<v Speaker 1>of there, if you will. And UM has been on

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<v Speaker 1>the run up until UM really right, not immediately, but

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of days before we recorded this, in

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<v Speaker 1>between the time we recorded that podcast a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago and now he's been apprehended in Guatemala trying to

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<v Speaker 1>enter the country illegally. UM. Of course, the police still say,

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<v Speaker 1>as at the time we're recording this, that he's not

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<v Speaker 1>wanted for the murder of this person. But is they

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask him some questions. Is a person of interest?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he he had a history of disagreements with

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<v Speaker 1>this neighbor. And UM also has in the past perhaps

0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.280
<v Speaker 1>associated himself with people who are not on the up

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<v Speaker 1>and up. There have been a few indicators that would

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<v Speaker 1>make him a person of interest within the mean, just

0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.480
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he lived near the guy was enough

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<v Speaker 1>to make him a person of a person of interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus the fact that the guy's body was found not

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<v Speaker 1>far from McAfee's UH property makes him a person of

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<v Speaker 1>interest at least as far as asking and finding out

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<v Speaker 1>what really did happen. And yeah, we still don't know

0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.160
<v Speaker 1>all the details on that one. Yeah, but of course

0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:33.960
<v Speaker 1>this episode goes live, it may all be out in

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<v Speaker 1>the open, but at the moment we don't know. Of course,

0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm McAfee's name is still synonymous with UM virus protection.

0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:46.400
<v Speaker 1>They they intel about the company some time ago, but

0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.200
<v Speaker 1>they still use McAfee as the name for their their

0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:53.640
<v Speaker 1>virus software. So UM the news reports coming out about

0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.680
<v Speaker 1>him this year sort of brought the founder of that

0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:01.040
<v Speaker 1>company back into UM, back into the public eye. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of us had said, really, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who came up with the virus software is the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was a person of interest in this murder case.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very, very strange. Back at the very beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve, we had the Internet blackout Day, which

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<v Speaker 1>was in relation to UH, to a couple of different

0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:24.800
<v Speaker 1>proposed pieces of legislation and in the in Congress uh

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<v Speaker 1>Sopa and Pippa, both of which were about protecting intellectual property,

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<v Speaker 1>and critics of these pieces of legislation said that the

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<v Speaker 1>the powers that were being given to the government far

0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:43.560
<v Speaker 1>exceeded what was necessary to protect intellectual property, and in fact,

0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:49.840
<v Speaker 1>potentially went well beyond what any country, any sovereign country,

0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:54.000
<v Speaker 1>could do, because these these pieces of legislation specifically concerned

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<v Speaker 1>themselves with intellectual property theft that happens outside the borders

0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:04.240
<v Speaker 1>of the United States. So if you have let's say

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're are a United States company, and you are

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<v Speaker 1>you're an owner of a lot of intellectual property. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you're a movie studio, because that's a good example.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're a United States movie studio and you're concerned

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<v Speaker 1>because your movies are being pirated and uploaded onto servers

0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that are in China, and you know, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>how do you pursue a complaint against that It's in

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<v Speaker 1>a different country. Uh, the country may or may not

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<v Speaker 1>be sympathetic at all toward the intellectual property rights holder.

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<v Speaker 1>They may not care, or they may not They may

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<v Speaker 1>have other concerns that are so great as that they

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<v Speaker 1>cannot dedicate time to that problem. So sopen people were

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<v Speaker 1>really about trying to find ways to cut off access

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<v Speaker 1>to sites like that, essentially to to shut down the

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<v Speaker 1>pathways that people could use to get to sites that

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<v Speaker 1>were alleged to have piracy on them pirated material on them.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is this could really cause issues with

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<v Speaker 1>the way the Internet works and how how you navigate places. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>it raised questions of well, what happens if the the

0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:17.000
<v Speaker 1>data there was not violating intellectual property? I mean, where's

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<v Speaker 1>where is the protection for innocence out there? How many

0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.880
<v Speaker 1>innocent websites could get shut down or not necessarily even

0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.520
<v Speaker 1>shut down, just the access itself would be blocked to

0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.720
<v Speaker 1>anyone in the United States. Beyond that, people who were

0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.280
<v Speaker 1>critics of this these pieces of legislation pointed out that

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<v Speaker 1>there were ways around it that anyone who was determined

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<v Speaker 1>to get at that material could do so using a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different workarounds, some of which were really really simple.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the argument was that this legislation could do

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<v Speaker 1>more harm than than good, and ultimately it won't protect

0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.199
<v Speaker 1>the intellectual property rights holders the way it's intended to,

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<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't work and it would break stuff. Therefore

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad, And a lot of websites ended up having

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<v Speaker 1>a policy where in January two thousand twelve, they had

0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:14.399
<v Speaker 1>UM they would do a blackout where if you visited

0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.320
<v Speaker 1>the site, you would either get a message just saying

0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.520
<v Speaker 1>that the site was completely offline as part of a

0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:24.439
<v Speaker 1>protest against this legislation, or it would be a landing

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<v Speaker 1>page that would give you a little information about the

0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.360
<v Speaker 1>legislation and then you have to click through to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the real site. But UM, it was a big deal,

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<v Speaker 1>and the legislation ultimately was withdrawn after after receiving heaps

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<v Speaker 1>of criticism, although I don't expect that to just mean

0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.720
<v Speaker 1>that the issue itself will go away, particularly since the

0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.679
<v Speaker 1>people who were responsible for the legislation are many of

0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.840
<v Speaker 1>whom are still in Congress. After the elections. They were

0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.480
<v Speaker 1>either either they were not up for re election and

0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.040
<v Speaker 1>so there's still serving their terms, or several of them

0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.960
<v Speaker 1>were reelected. So it could very well be that we'll

0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:08.040
<v Speaker 1>just see a different version of the same sort of

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:15.800
<v Speaker 1>um legislation passed through Congress again. Yeah, and another uh

0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:23.199
<v Speaker 1>sort of political um. It's sort of political bent to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the tech world this year it happened outside

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<v Speaker 1>the United States and again recently as of the time

0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:31.080
<v Speaker 1>we're recording this UM. You know, there's there's been a

0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:35.440
<v Speaker 1>big armed conflict this year in Syria and UM just

0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.440
<v Speaker 1>not too long ago. UM. I guess about a week

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<v Speaker 1>or so before we record this UM, the entire Internet

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<v Speaker 1>was cut off to Syria or or mostly cut off.

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<v Speaker 1>And UH it's still UM at least according to my research.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still somewhat unclear UM as to the cause of that,

0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.879
<v Speaker 1>whether the government actually had it shut off, or whether

0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:03.680
<v Speaker 1>there was some kind of UM the government actually claims

0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:09.120
<v Speaker 1>or that UM that rebels Syrian rebels had UM cut

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<v Speaker 1>off access to the Internet, although it seems that some organizations,

0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:19.360
<v Speaker 1>probably the governmental organizations, still had access to the country's

0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:23.000
<v Speaker 1>UM Internet connection. UH, it was actually cut off, not

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<v Speaker 1>not for very long period of time, only for for

0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.679
<v Speaker 1>a few days. UM. But you know, it's one of

0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.760
<v Speaker 1>those things where people were wondering whether or not UM

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 1>both sides in that conflict would be able to tell

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<v Speaker 1>their story via the Internet. I mean, that's been been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty common over the past few years, the ability for

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:44.480
<v Speaker 1>UM people who are UH speaking out against the government

0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.119
<v Speaker 1>in their countries to be able to use Twitter and

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:50.800
<v Speaker 1>other social media to to communicate their ideas, to communicate

0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the beliefs, to organize protests. Um, of course that's some

0:20:55.960 --> 0:21:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that's been very common, especially with the Arab Spring upper

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<v Speaker 1>I think. So that wasn't this year really but actually

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<v Speaker 1>still that that kind of activity is still going on

0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 1>in in Egypt as of the time when recording this too.

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.159
<v Speaker 1>Um but um, but yeah, that was that was a

0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.240
<v Speaker 1>big story this year. That also happened in Libya where

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the Libyan uh internet access was was cut off to

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<v Speaker 1>some degree. Um. It wasn't as uh colorful or actually

0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.640
<v Speaker 1>funny as the woman in two thousand eleven who cut

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<v Speaker 1>off internet access to Georgia and Armenia because she was

0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.320
<v Speaker 1>find she found a cable and wanted to sell the

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.720
<v Speaker 1>copper in the cable, so she cut it and cut

0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 1>off web access to the entire country. But apparently she

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.760
<v Speaker 1>she had never heard of the Worldwide Web. Um, so

0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:49.400
<v Speaker 1>that's no one else over there ditt either. Um but yeah,

0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.840
<v Speaker 1>but that that is a conflict that appears to be

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.600
<v Speaker 1>uh politically motivated as well. And staying in the world

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.119
<v Speaker 1>of politics, of course, in the United States, we had

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:03.360
<v Speaker 1>our our presidential election and that ended up the social

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.200
<v Speaker 1>networking ended up playing a big part of that election.

0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:09.280
<v Speaker 1>And UM not a big surprise. I mean, we've we've

0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:12.960
<v Speaker 1>seen that in the previous elections as well, but it wasn't.

0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Again one of those uh stories that kind of UM

0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:22.159
<v Speaker 1>caused some amusement in that Uh. The Democratic Party had

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<v Speaker 1>their approach to managing social media and the Internet and

0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:31.560
<v Speaker 1>communication as far as communicating out to supporters, you know,

0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:35.960
<v Speaker 1>ways to to uh get get out the word for

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:39.440
<v Speaker 1>people to vote, and the Republican had Republicans had their

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<v Speaker 1>side as well, which famously did not work so great

0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times. UM. As a matter of fact,

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the Republicans tool, which was nicknamed Orca um crashed on

0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the election day. And both both tools were had had

0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:01.520
<v Speaker 1>similar purposes, they went about it in different ways. Orca

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and and Narwhale, which is the Democrats uh software tool

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>that they used, we're both designed to get people out

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:11.880
<v Speaker 1>there and get people to vote, um, but they went

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 1>about it in different ways. Rumor has it that the

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Republicans chose Orca as the nickname for their tool because

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:23.640
<v Speaker 1>they had already heard of Narwhale and Orca's prey on

0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Normal's it's a whale eat whale world. Orcas are not

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:31.360
<v Speaker 1>technically whales. A whale of a tale to tell your

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>lad a whale of a tale or two. But um,

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:37.879
<v Speaker 1>actually that's sort of a fascinating story. Is is the

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 1>tale the two software tools? But yeah, it's it's obvious

0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 1>now that um, politics in at least in the United

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 1>States has been forever changed by social media and networked communication, uh,

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>mobile communication and you know, things like text messaging and

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the ability to communicate to get the vote out. Um,

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:08.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you will see another unplugged election, at

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:12.199
<v Speaker 1>least not unless the world of NBC's revolution happens upon us.

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 1>The internet. I think Twitter has played such a big role.

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean just just even if it's not a direct role,

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>whenever any event happened, it seemed like the part of

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>the story that would cover this would be how Twitter

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>reacted to that event, Like, within you know, x amount

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of time, over one million tweets went out about this

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 1>particular thing, that kind of thing. So we heard about

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>that a lot with the election, but also about the

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Olympics in two thousand and twelve. The Internet played a

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 1>big role with the the access to the Olympics. Um,

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I know that I was not alone in doing something

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>naughty in that I watched the streaming of the opening

0:24:56.640 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 1>ceremonies live via the Internet by finding a link that

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>let me do that, because otherwise I was going to

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>have to wait and I didn't want to because it

0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>was a slow day at work and I was hearing

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>about Mr Bean on the Olympics and I said I

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>have to see this. So anyway, it was entitlement, that's

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>all me. But but anyway, yeah, the the Internet played

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:24.399
<v Speaker 1>a big role in our access to the Olympics. Again

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Twitter did it gave athletes and and outlet where they

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:34.680
<v Speaker 1>could communicate directly with people who were supporting them. Uh,

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 1>so we see that that it's playing a larger and

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>larger role in big events. This is really I don't

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>think it comes as a surprise to anyone. It's just

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 1>one of those things where it's in another indicator of

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:52.120
<v Speaker 1>how our world is changing, and that we are gradually

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>moving toward more and more of an online world when

0:25:56.440 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 1>it comes to these big real world events. UM, and

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>relying less on traditional forms of media. Now, that doesn't

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>mean that the online world outweighs those traditional forms of media.

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>That's not the case. There's still plenty of people watching

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>TV or or reading about it in in other traditional

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:23.160
<v Speaker 1>forms of media. Uh, it's not like the scales have tipped.

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just that we're seeing a growing uh uh reliance

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>on the online world. Yeah, and and uh there was

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.919
<v Speaker 1>a big story actually as the Olympics were going on

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 1>here in the United States about the TV channel. The

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>story was in the United States. The Olympics weren't going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. Okay, good point. I said that a little funny. Yes,

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>there was a big story in the United States about

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the Olympics in Britain because um, you know, they were

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 1>several hours ahead of us in in the the time,

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and just like British, I think there's so big their

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>tea in there, five hour advanced time from here, even

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>more of a difference on the West coast. Um. But yeah,

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 1>the the the availability of information, the the fact that

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>this information of scores and outcomes of events, news stories,

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, somebody might get hurt or um you know

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:32.959
<v Speaker 1>the the bad mitten Gate story of this summer, Um,

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 1>look it up. Um. Oh yeah, it really was a thing.

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 1>These stories were coming out over the internet in channels

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>that we all look to every day and in places

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>that we look every day, and we're thinking, you know,

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.959
<v Speaker 1>why do we have to wait until prime time here

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>in the United States? How why do we have to

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>wait until evening? Defined out these things? And the thing

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>is it's sort of I think it was a lot

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of noise really because people still tune

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>into those broadcasts. Um. But it it highlighted a couple

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>of things. One, uh, it highlighted just how much difference

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>in time there really is between the times that when

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it's someplace that is vastly different in time, like um

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>uh than the next Winter Olympics will be in Russia,

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>So there's going to be an even bigger time difference

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 1>for those of us here in the United States who

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:27.160
<v Speaker 1>are going to be following those events. Um. And they go, well,

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 1>we can get this in real time. Why don't we

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>have to wait until TV? Well, the thing is, you

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't um. And people still wanted to see those

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>those things on TV, but it also pointed out the

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>things that they weren't showing, and people started to question

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the network that that carries those events, saying why didn't

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you show this story or how come you're focused on

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>this one game when you know this other one meant

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>so much to the outcome of the medals um And

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the answer is, you know, they're showing they can't show

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>everything without you know, basically turning it into a twenty

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>four hour Olympics channel. And even then there's so much

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 1>going on that you can't so it's sort of um

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was a big thing for a while

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>among some people to say, well, they are not showing

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, and they're not showing it in real time.

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>But I think in the end it's sort of proved

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that the people who really want that information are going

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>to go get it anyway online, and the people who

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>really want to see it packaged and a nice, neat

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>format with a little human interest stuff are still going

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to watch the traditional broadcasts on TV. But it was

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how much the the technology has pervaded

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>our lives to where we sort of expect everything in

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>in full ready when we are What I thought was

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>interesting also is that it gave options, uh not necessarily

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>options that were sanctioned by you know, whatever entity was

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>in charge of broadcasting the Olympics in any given country,

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>but it gave options that some of US found very valuable.

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>For example, you could watch the opening ceremonies without any commentary. Yes,

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>so you didn't have either in the case of the

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>UK commentators like people talking about stuff that you know

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 1>or or interrupting something that you found interesting, or in

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the case of US commentators, people who don't understand the

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>references that are being made and are showing their national

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>ignorance of things that I actually know about being an

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>anglophile and ticking me off, are using there's some commentary there,

0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Are you using that soapbox or a little bit um? Yeah? No,

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but but that was kind of an interesting

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>thing too. Is that the idea that you don't have

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>to consume this particular type of of well not even

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>just entertainment, but this particularly particular content in one way,

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>like there's only one way that you can get this stuff,

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and there's only one form that you're going to see

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it in the idea that you suddenly could have access

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>to streams of this content that would be totally different

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>from what you would get on TV. It was really interesting. No,

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of course that's not gonna apply to every single kind

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>of content that's out there, but for something like a

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>sports event where you may not want commentary, you may

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>just want to watch the the event itself and that's it.

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Then it was a it was a nice option to have,

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and uh that I think is something that could be

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>very valuable in the future. Now in this case, again

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't something that was necessarily sanctioned, but I could

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>see that easily becoming like an option, like like you know,

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you could can you imagine you just you go to

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>let's say it's a website or a portal of some

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>sort that you could access even on your television, and

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>there'd be an option there click with commentary or without commentary,

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.959
<v Speaker 1>And for something like the opening ceremonies of of the Olympic,

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that could be a total game changer for the people

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>watching it. I think that would be a really cool

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>feature to have for the next Olympics. Is you know

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>something along those lines, or do you want to have

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the commentary from a particular country to

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:21.239
<v Speaker 1>be the one that accompanies the footage, and uh, you know,

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that would be I think a pretty cool thing to

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>have at your disposal. Because we've got plenty of people

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>in every country, there are plenty of people from other

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>parts of the world who might want to watch a

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>sporting event with the people providing commentary speaking in their

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>native language. I think that would be a really neat

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>thing to do, and it's uh uh, you know, it's

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>within the realm of possibility. So I'm hoping that we

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>see that trend become an official trend, something that is

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>sanctioned and isn't just you know, left up to people

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>who are clever who have discovered a feed that doesn't

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>have anything attached to it and then they broadcasted on

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Twitter or Facebook or whatever. Um. Speaking of Facebook, big

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>year for Facebook. Yes, they bought a little company called

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Instagram for one billion dollars. Yes they did. And they

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>also had a little I p O. Yes, initial an

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>initial public offering of stock. They got to the point

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>in size they actually reached a billion customers worldwide and

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>still growing. Um of where some of those are the

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>same people, but I won't tell Facebook if you don't. Um. Yeah,

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>they they got to the point where they had enough

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>cloud where they were really kind of had their backs

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>to the wall and were forced to release a stock

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>offering and become a public company. Yeah. They wait, once

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 1>your company reaches a certain size and has a certain

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>number of stakeholders. Uh. In the United States, you are

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>required to have a public offering. You can't you can't

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>main tained that indefinitely once you reach a certain size

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and you have a certain number of stakeholders. And Facebook

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>was pretty much at that point. So there wasn't a

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>whole lot of choice in whether or not it would

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.479
<v Speaker 1>hold an ip O. It just came down to win yes, yes.

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>And so before this happened, before they went public, there

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of hype as there would be around

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:27.800
<v Speaker 1>a company as pivotal as as Facebook. Um. Of course

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>there was the famous dot com bubble and the late

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>es UM and UH, people sort of discussed this, Hey,

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>this is a big deal. You know, tech companies haven't

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>had this kind of flashy public offering on the scale

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of of a company like Facebook in years really um

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and you know, there there have been some exceptions to

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to the public offerings, but this was a big thing

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>um before. However, then they actually went public and the

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>stock sort of took off fish and then didn't and

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>then started to drop it having trouble as right now,

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a bit of controversy in that or controversy for

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>my friends in England I was going to say, you're

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>an anglophile. Um, But anyway, there was some contriversy. Controversy

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>in the in the sense that uh that Facebook had

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's essentially it had a call that

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>talked about its financials and then updated debt. I came

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.399
<v Speaker 1>out that Facebook found out it wasn't going to hit

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 1>the numbers that it had projected, which would in turn

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>affect the value of the company. That information made its

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:50.720
<v Speaker 1>way out to a certain group of essentially investment groups.

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Is really banks, really is what it got to financial institutions.

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:59.240
<v Speaker 1>The information got to them. Facebook apparently, uh communicated information

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 1>to a select number of financial institutions, which then could

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 1>make the decision to you know, sell off all that

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 1>stock at a higher value than what the company was

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>actually worth based upon this new updated information. However, that

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 1>same info, that key critical info about the value of Facebook,

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>did not get communicated to a broader audience of investors,

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 1>which meant that there were people who were buying up

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Facebook stock assuming that the stock price reflected the actual

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>value of the company. And once that information started to

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>become public, then there was this big uproar about it

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 1>being an unethical business. Practice. Now, I should state this

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>is not illegal what Facebook did as far as I

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>can tell, there's nothing illegal about it, but it is

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 1>some people would call it unethical. Yeah. Basically, UM, I

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 1>think this sort of hedges on on what is known

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>as insider trading UM, where somebody who is on on

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the inside, if you will, knows something about a company

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>before the company announces it to the public, and they

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:20.720
<v Speaker 1>make stock trades based on that. And UM, basically this

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 1>this is you know, this makes people think that there

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>is something like that going on. UM, and that is

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>what is in legal terms known as a no no. Yeah.

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I have to consult a lawyer, but I think that

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>a no no is pretty much Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Uh.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>And Facebook was not, of course, the only coming to

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>have some pretty big changes happen, uh you know with

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>without going public. That was a big change for Facebook,

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and H well, it'll be interesting to see how that

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>plays out, whether or not the company can kind of

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:55.280
<v Speaker 1>get out of the doldrums. There have been some some

0:37:55.400 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 1>statements that perhaps the web advertising market is going to

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>um continue to to decline in importance and therefore the

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>chief revenue stream for Facebook is going to kind of

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>uh not not go away and not even not make money,

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 1>but it just won't make as much money as quickly

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>as traditionally had been the case. And therefore that will

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>affect the value of Facebook. And that's why the stock

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>price may not change much. Unless Facebook finds a new

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>way of generating revenue UH or if the web advertising

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>market turns around somehow, that could dramatically impact Facebook's value

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 1>as well. So the stock price is not it's not

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>a guarantee that's going to stay where it's at, but

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 1>it is, you know, an ongoing story. As far as

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 1>other companies go, we saw some pretty big changes of

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Yahoo had a year of changes. In January,

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Scott Thompson became the interim CEO. UH. He announced that

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 1>they were going to be massive layoffs. UM. He made

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:06.359
<v Speaker 1>some decisions that were pretty dramatic. And then there was

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>another controversy. UH. There's another controversy with Thompson's background. It

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>came out that his executive bio had some information in

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>it that was what we would call not entirely accurate

0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>or made up. UM. But he he had on his

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>bios some information about UH degrees that he did not

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>actually hold, like computer science. Yeah, and so this ended

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>up prompting some shareholders in Yahoo to call for Thompson's resignation,

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>saying that you know it was he's misrepresenting himself, it's

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a bad fit for the company, it's bad pr for

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the company. He needs to get out. And he did resign,

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and uh Yeahoo brought on Marissa Meyer, formerly of Google,

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the earliest female employees at Google, the first

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>engineer at female engineer at Google, uh to come in

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and become the new CEO. And that was a huge story.

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>People who were very pessimistic about Yahoo's chances in two

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>thousand twelve began to hedge their bets a bit. And

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that people were saying, oh, well, now

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Yahoo is definitely saved, but there was more optimism around

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the company than I had seen in the last few years. Also,

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>she actually has a degree in computer science. Also, this

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>story will come into play in our next episode when

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 1>we talk about the results of our predictions for two

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand twelve, because she ruined our predictions for Yahoo. So

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>we shake our fist at Meyer. All right, Okay, So

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that Chris and I talked way more

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.879
<v Speaker 1>about two thousand twelve than we expected, so we are

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>actually split think this epic long episode into two manageable episodes.

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>You're welcome. So this concludes part one. Chris, I think

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you'll agree that this was the prudent choice. Yep, Okay,

0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>thank you. That was just to prude that Chris is

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>in fact in the studio. I'm not doing this by myself.

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:19.680
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