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Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media, Dino Wars, Dinah Wors, Dinah Wars. Hello

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Cool Zone Media book Club, the only

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Speaker 1: book club where you don't have to do the reading

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Speaker 1: because I do it for you. I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy.

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Speaker 1: And this, as you might have guessed by the title

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Speaker 1: and the introduction, is another Dino Wars episode. Because it's

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Speaker 1: been exciting, you all have reacted positively to Dinah Wars.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we did get these podcasts from

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Speaker 1: thirty years in the future, and obviously it would be

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Speaker 1: immoral of us to not play you all of the

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Speaker 1: podcasts that we heard from thirty years in the future. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: here's that. Hello and welcome to Cool Zone twenty fifty five,

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Speaker 1: How to Survive the Dino Wars. I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy.

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Speaker 1: And this week, well, dear listener, I have been stretching

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Speaker 1: these missives from Mixed Bunny Face Murder as long as

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Speaker 1: I could because I've been hoping against hope that Moore

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Speaker 1: would arrive. It's a strange thing to be writing my

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Speaker 1: parts of these episodes. Safish from the other side of

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Speaker 1: the Iron Curtain. We've had a rare actual winter this

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Speaker 1: year in Helsinki, and I've mostly been based out of

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Speaker 1: a friend's family lakeside cabin in an undisclosed location near

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Speaker 1: one of the largest dinosaur breeding facilities in the world.

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Speaker 1: I've been working on a series about that, which will

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Speaker 1: be running soon. I've also, I have to admit, been

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Speaker 1: feeling introspective myself while presenting to you these missives from

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Speaker 1: Mixed Bunny Face Murder when they talk about the old

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Speaker 1: person that they met, who'd just barely been born in

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Speaker 1: the twentieth century. Well, I spent my entire childhood in

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Speaker 1: the twentieth century being old rules. I'm proud that I've

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Speaker 1: the thousands of people I've known who didn't make it.

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Speaker 1: I want so badly for Mixed Murder to make it

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Speaker 1: out of the iron curtain. I see so much of

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Speaker 1: myself in them, and I think about all the ill

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Speaker 1: advised adventures I've survived. I thought I was too old

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Speaker 1: in the frozen forest, looking up at the beautiful skies.

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Speaker 1: I tell myself that were I younger, I would be

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Speaker 1: a cop out. It isn't one, as my producers remind

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Speaker 1: me constantly, but it feels like one. I need to

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Speaker 1: do what I am best at, not what my ego

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Speaker 1: apparently is podcasting at putting together and presenting stories. A

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Speaker 1: thousand years ago, I interviewed the science fiction author Ursula

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Speaker 1: she said she was happiest when people let her alone

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Speaker 1: stuffing envelopes for planned parenthood. No matter what, I'm not

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Speaker 1: But I'm not a soldier, not anymore. I'm a cheerleader,

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Speaker 1: an old trans bitch with pom poms. And it's not

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Speaker 1: I am, because realistically, I've only got a couple decades

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Speaker 1: the way with war. It's not fair, it's not right.

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Speaker 1: le Gwin's pacifism. I'm still not a pacifist. I'm about

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Speaker 1: how looking at this century of slaughter leaves you feeling terrified,

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Speaker 1: my friends, my comrades. In particular, I can say on

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Speaker 1: My hosts, my friends live in the ring of Vishnu

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Speaker 1: I hope, as much as I've hoped for anything, that

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Speaker 1: one day they'll be my age, and I'll be dead

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Speaker 1: be able to be pacifists again. Maybe Nazi zombies will

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Speaker 1: nazis just a fiction. Again. If you want to ride

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Speaker 1: podcast is brought to you by Gary. That's right, a

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Speaker 1: Ninth wave punk wasn't all positive. Right wing shit came

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