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Speaker 1: Here Tween go. This is it. Caught by Kurt at

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Speaker 1: the twenty at the ten touchdown, Oh baby field, here's

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Speaker 1: Craig Grilou, Mike Jarecki and Bertrand Berry and the pick

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Speaker 1: is in all. We've got to wait three more days

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Speaker 1: to hear those five words. The twenty twenty one NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft is Thursday. We've been waiting months, so what's another

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Speaker 1: couple of days? And I think at this point, after

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Speaker 1: doing some homework before the show, gentlemen, every position group

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Speaker 1: outside of quarterback has been mocked to the Cardinals at

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Speaker 1: number sixteen. So everyone has covered all of their bases.

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Speaker 1: The mock drafts, they provide great entertainments. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much knowledge and subst refuge there is out there,

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Speaker 1: but I'm ready for the real thing. What about you

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Speaker 1: be trained, absolutely ready to get it on and move

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Speaker 1: on to the next phase. This is just one piece

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Speaker 1: and it's an important piece without question. But at this point,

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Speaker 1: we've talked so much about it. Let's just get it

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Speaker 1: I thought you knew someone when you said the pick

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Speaker 1: it's every year around this time that everyone gets excited.

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Speaker 1: But when you're picking in the middle, real literally dead

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Speaker 1: middle of the first round, yeah, it's it's so hard

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Speaker 1: number sixteen MJ, it's everyone you throw something against the

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Speaker 1: What is the potential of this team actually moving up

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Speaker 1: And then you know, as far as trading back and

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals do have a need at cornerback MG, even

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Speaker 1: never pass rusher. Now, I don't think it's a deep

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Speaker 1: up the top, but it's like the second, third round

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Speaker 1: it's gonna get real interesting. There's a lot of counted guys.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna fly off the board. It's there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a run from them at some point. Because it's a

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Speaker 1: very very good group be trained. The first pass rusher

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Speaker 1: might not be drafted until the teams or maybe in

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Speaker 1: the twenties, and I don't know if that has ever

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Speaker 1: happened during the history of the NFL draft, and it's

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Speaker 1: a shame because I understand that at certain times it

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Speaker 1: just it ebbs and flows. I remember a time where

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen were the ones that dominate at the top

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Speaker 1: of the first round. I remember at a time where

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Speaker 1: wide receivers and running backs dominated at the top of

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Speaker 1: the first round. It just goes to what teams need

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Speaker 1: at that time and what players are evaluated as in

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Speaker 1: the timing that they come out. So it pass rushers,

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Speaker 1: of course, are going to always be something that I

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Speaker 1: look at because I think in order to really nullify

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Speaker 1: what an offense can do, you got to be able

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Speaker 1: to go get after that quarterback and get him off

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Speaker 1: the spot. And pass rushers are the guys that do

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Speaker 1: it the most effective and the quickest. So there's always

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Speaker 1: going to be a need for those type players that

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Speaker 1: they are first round Grant, I think you need to

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Speaker 1: have a number of them because not only can they

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Speaker 1: do that as far as getting out of the pastor

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Speaker 1: but then you start looking at special teams. These are athletic,

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Speaker 1: big guys that can actually do a lot of different things.

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Speaker 1: And when you start talking about filling up a roster

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Speaker 1: and playing special teams, everybody can't start, but those guys

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Speaker 1: can definitely go out there and make a difference in

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Speaker 1: more than one winning Gregory Rousseau Jaalen Phillips teammates at

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Speaker 1: Miami Quity Pay out of Michigan. Those three, as far

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Speaker 1: as edge rushers are concerned. And then the inside linebacker

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Speaker 1: position number one on that board is Penn State Micah Parsons.

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Speaker 1: And then another name and this is someone MJ that

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Speaker 1: you've kind of hit on the past couple of days,

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Speaker 1: and that's either an inside or outside linebacker. But outa

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Speaker 1: Tulsa's Avin Collins, who checked in at two hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy pounds when he had a medical check in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: but six four, two seventy he prefers to play sideline

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Speaker 1: to sideline many he wants to be able to rush

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback and cover. Yeah. And to me, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're talking about the guy over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks that has moved up the draft boards. Initially,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe an early second round pick. Now you're

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Speaker 1: starting then in a couple of mocks in the last

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Speaker 1: week or so, you're seeing twenty five the latest mock.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him as eighteen now, so again, there's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna be only one defensive tackle drafted in the first round,

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Speaker 1: which is shocking to me. I mean, all you talk

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Speaker 1: about defending in having a good interior offensive line, but

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Speaker 1: he's very intriguing. And whether he's six four or six five,

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Speaker 1: they played a three three five, so he played on

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Speaker 1: the outside at Tulsa. You pair him with Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 1: for the future, you're talking about six four or six five,

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Speaker 1: and he can cover tight ends, he can rush the passer,

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Speaker 1: he can help in the run defense. So to me,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not necessarily you need because you do

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Speaker 1: have Jordan Hicks under contract and you have Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 1: on his rookie deal. It's not a need, but best

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Speaker 1: available player to help this defense. And you're setting yourself

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Speaker 1: up if you want to move on from Jordan Hicksie

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Speaker 1: year from now Collins the best defensive player in twenty twenty, Lombardi,

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Speaker 1: Bronco Nagurski, Chuck Bednerick Award winner, So a name to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on, especially in the middle of that

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Speaker 1: first round and perhaps with the Cardinals at number sixteen.

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Speaker 1: halftime here on this week's edition of The Cardinals Read

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Speaker 1: Sea Report. When we come back. The other position that

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Speaker 1: has been closely linked to the Cardinals, it's on the

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Speaker 1: offensive side, wide receiver. We'll talk about the pass catchers

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Speaker 1: in this year's drafting. Well, well, the Cardinals pull the

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Speaker 1: trigger another wide receiver after drafting three not too long ago.

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Speaker 1: This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network shotguns napped to

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Speaker 1: Kylamor from the pocket, deep pass left side, going for

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Speaker 1: Hopkins one hand and catch in a touchdown. DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: Obviously he'd love to get another number one with DeAndre,

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Speaker 1: but even that complimentary, really strong number two to go

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Speaker 1: on the other side and give you some playmaking would

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Speaker 1: be great. Offense wins games, defense wins championships. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the offense because it is the favorite

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Speaker 1: part of the game of one bertrand Berry, as I

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Speaker 1: say that with tongue firmly in cheek. But we are

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Speaker 1: going to focus on pass catchers here as we welcome

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Speaker 1: you back to the Cardinals Red Sea report Craig Riol,

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Speaker 1: Mike Tarecki and Bertram Berry, who played a mean defense

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Speaker 1: when he was in the National Football League and always

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Speaker 1: carries the defense to a high regard. But you do

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Speaker 1: need to be able to score points b train and

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Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray in at quarterback, and as you heard

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Speaker 1: Kurt Warner just mentioned, you've got Hopkins on one side.

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Speaker 1: The question is aj Green signed, but it's a one

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Speaker 1: year deal. Christian kirk Andy isabellack, He's Sean Johnson, all unproven.

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Speaker 1: That's why many believed that wide receiver could be in

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Speaker 1: play at number sixteen. You want to give Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: every opportunity to be successful. I would even look at

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Speaker 1: tight ends when you start talking about options to help

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Speaker 1: Kyler progress as a quarterback. But as we're talking about

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Speaker 1: wide receivers, yes, you want to be able to give

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Speaker 1: him another option other than DeAndre Hopkins. The one thing

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Speaker 1: we saw last year is that when everything broke down,

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Speaker 1: he always looked towards DeAndre, and DeAndre delivered, but there

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Speaker 1: was just so much attention brought his way that it

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Speaker 1: showed up as a glaring need as far as somebody

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Speaker 1: that can step up and really be there on a

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Speaker 1: game end and game out basis to give that balance

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Speaker 1: to the formation so that you don't overload the coverage

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Speaker 1: all the time to DeAndre and not allow him to

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Speaker 1: do what he needs to do. So receiver is definitely

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Speaker 1: a position that I think the Cardinals should look at

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Speaker 1: for this upcoming draft. I don't know how hi you

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Speaker 1: go to look for receivers, because there are going to

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Speaker 1: be a number of receivers, just like we talked about cornerbacks,

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Speaker 1: and however you go, I really think that you're going

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Speaker 1: to get quality in the first three to four rounds

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Speaker 1: in this draft. That's how deep that position is. And

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Speaker 1: whoever that they decide to bring in I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to have an opportunity to come in and play

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Speaker 1: significant time right away. Yeah, you could very well get

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Speaker 1: someone in the second round with the Cardinals pick number

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Speaker 1: forty nine overall. But as far as first round talent,

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Speaker 1: there are three names Jamaar Chase, Jalen Waddle, and Davante Smith.

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Speaker 1: Waddle and Smith teammates at Alabama. Those the top three

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Speaker 1: by most draft experts. But when you look at the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver class as a whole, you're general manager Steve Cott,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really deep receiver class, and they

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Speaker 1: all have different traits, especially those guys at the top.

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Speaker 1: They're all different sizes, they have different skill sets, whether

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Speaker 1: they can play X or ze or you know, do

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Speaker 1: some things for you in the return game. A couple

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Speaker 1: of those guys have that skill set. To me, I

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Speaker 1: think there's probably gonna be five or six guys that

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Speaker 1: could potentially go in the first round. Now, when you

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Speaker 1: look at those three players specifically, m Jacim kind of

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Speaker 1: gave comps to all three of those for Jamaar Chase,

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Speaker 1: Andre Johnson, Jalen Waddle, Steve Smith, DeVante Smith. Because of

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Speaker 1: his size, he weighed in at a buck sixty six,

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison, and of course beat Train. We always love

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Speaker 1: Syracuse alum with the Arizona card because they are so

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Speaker 1: good whether on the field or in the front office.

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Speaker 1: But I digress. Four minutes. Yeah, big shout out the

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Speaker 1: Chanel Jones is also a fellow of Orange. He goes

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Speaker 1: right to the defensive player. Well, I mean he's the

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Speaker 1: guy that he's a Syracuse origin is I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: validate your point here, but you know, justin pu the

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Speaker 1: offensive justin Pugh. I mean, there's another one. I got you.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say this. I actually played with Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 1: and I know how effective he was when I was

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Speaker 1: in my time in Indianapolis. And to have a player

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Speaker 1: like a Marvin Harrison, he can definitely really enhance your

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Speaker 1: your your passing game because he's able to. He had

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Speaker 1: the quickest feat that I ever saw as far as

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Speaker 1: a receiver is concern. And DeVante Smith is a guy

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Speaker 1: that when I watched him play, he was as dominant

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Speaker 1: a football player as I had seen in a while.

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Speaker 1: And that goes beyond any position. The fact that he

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Speaker 1: yet still found himself wide open at times and got

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Speaker 1: the ball and knew what to do with it. He's very,

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Speaker 1: very impressive. So these these top receivers, they do have

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Speaker 1: those individual skill sets, and I do think that Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray throwing to any of them would make a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense, and it would definitely give this offense that

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Speaker 1: extra hop that maybe we didn't have in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years, and we had flashes of it with DeAndre,

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Speaker 1: but you definitely want to be able to put a

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Speaker 1: lot of fear in the defensive coordinators leading up to

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Speaker 1: the week that they had to face the Cardinals. I

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Speaker 1: guess we'll find out if if I think Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: is probably the first off the board, and then Waddle

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Speaker 1: and then Smith, and then you got Cadarius Tony from Florida.

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Speaker 1: He does have a couple of red flags there. It

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Speaker 1: happened in twenty eighteen. But the guy that I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: that the Cardinals are intrigued by his Rashad Bateman from Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: He's a junior six feet one ninety ran a four

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Speaker 1: four one, arms are thirty three nine and a half

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Speaker 1: inch hands, wingspan seventy six and a half and he's

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Speaker 1: only twenty one years old, So a guy that's got

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Speaker 1: good size. You got Elijah Moore out there from Old Miss,

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Speaker 1: Terrence Marshall Junior from LSU, Rondal Moore, Rondel Moore from Purdue,

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Speaker 1: Mari Rodgers from Clemson. And I think you're going to

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Speaker 1: see at least seventeen wide receivers go on the first

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Speaker 1: three rounds. And if you're looking for that outside receiver,

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Speaker 1: Bateman at six two qualifies as that X receiver. Although

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Speaker 1: as we've talked about, you could certainly line somewhat someone

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Speaker 1: inside and then have them run outside. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think we're getting to that point now where wide receivers

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Speaker 1: you should be able to play all across the board,

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Speaker 1: inside and outside to be the most effective. You Also,

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Speaker 1: earlier in this segment, b Train brought up the tight

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Speaker 1: end position, and there is one and only one tied

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Speaker 1: end that people are talking about, and perhaps maybe the

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Speaker 1: number two player, or maybe the best offensive player, but

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Speaker 1: number two when you compare him to the quarterback position

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Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence, but Kyle Pitts to tight end out

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Speaker 1: of Florida six six, two hundred and forty pounds. He

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Speaker 1: was asked general manager Steve Kim talked about Pitts. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Pitts tremendous player. Spent some time virtually with him, have

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Speaker 1: been extremely impressed. Then you turn on the tape and

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Speaker 1: you see a guy who can do it all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's got rare and unusual height, weight and speed. He's

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Speaker 1: a real mismatch problem for a number of different positions defensively,

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Speaker 1: and I haven't seen many guys that really possessed the

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Speaker 1: skill set that he has. There is not a team

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Speaker 1: be trained that would not want a Kyle Pitts. The

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Speaker 1: question is how much are you willing to quote unquote

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Speaker 1: pay to get a Kyle Pitts. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he comes off the board after number five, maybe

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Speaker 1: even a number four with the Atlanta Falcons. But when

646
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Speaker 1: you talk about the tight end position overall, be trained

647
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Speaker 1: on what a pass catching tight end could do for

648
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense led by Kyler Murray. Oh, he could

649
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: definitely dominate the middle of the field and he opens

650
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: it up so much more for the AJ Greenes and

651
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. And if you have that security blanket there,

652
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: he's a matchup nightmare because now your your forts and

653
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator to match up with him and six six,

654
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: run four four and really is an extra receiver. He's

655
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Speaker 1: in the mindset of a George Kittles, Travis Kelsey, those

656
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: type of guys. And we know with George Kittles what

657
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: he can do. Based on the fact that he's in

658
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: our division. You want that option. Now. I don't see

659
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Speaker 1: him lasting very long. His name is going to be

660
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: called very early in the draft, and as you said, Craig,

661
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: you don't see this team moving up that far to

662
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Speaker 1: go get a player. But he would definitely if we

663
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Speaker 1: want to just dream a little bit, he would definitely

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Speaker 1: be a guy that could really really make things interesting

665
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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals as far as the number of weapons

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Speaker 1: all over the field that Kyler would have it his

667
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Speaker 1: supposed You know, there's there's a free agent out there,

668
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Speaker 1: Tyler Eifford. He's played twenty nine games in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. Curious to see if the Cardinals would

670
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Speaker 1: have interest there. But you know, we're only six draft

671
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Speaker 1: picks right now. You look at a guy like Brevin

672
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Speaker 1: Jordan from Miami. He's projected to go in the second

673
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Speaker 1: third round six two, two forty seven. He's got a

674
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Speaker 1: nice wingspan, and Tommy Treble from Notre Dame, Hunter Long

675
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: from Boston College, so you know, Matt Bushman from VYU

676
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: obviously a blocking tight end. So be curious to see

677
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Speaker 1: if they get more picks. But you know, right now

678
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: you got Max s Willims, you got Darrell Daniels, and

679
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Speaker 1: if they want to add a veteran like an Effort

680
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: who's been hurting the past and that's the reason why

681
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: he's a free agent. But curious to see if they

682
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: have enough picks that they take a tight end. But

683
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Speaker 1: they're going to bring six to camp and usually they'll

684
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Speaker 1: sign some undrafted free agents. Betrand, are we sure that

685
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Speaker 1: there's a viable tight end out of Notre Dame that

686
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Speaker 1: would be available for the Cardinals at some point in

687
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Speaker 1: this three day draft. There are a couple as as

688
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: as Mike just alluded to. You know, we we've been

689
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Speaker 1: known as as as as tight end you here recently.

690
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Speaker 1: So there's no shortage of great tight ends to come

691
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Speaker 1: from my almamout. Just like you can brag about Syracuse,

692
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: I can brag about Notre Dame. We bring a lot

693
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Speaker 1: to the table when you talk about will around the

694
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Speaker 1: tight ends that can pretty much do it all, especially

695
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Speaker 1: catch the ball when thrown at them. Fair enough on

696
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Speaker 1: that point, Yeah, tight end certainly something that you seem

697
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: like every offseason we talked about the tight end and yeah,

698
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Speaker 1: this is the year the tight end position will be

699
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Speaker 1: involved in the offense. And at the end of the

700
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: year it's oh, they caught thirty thirty five passes. So

701
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: and collectively, not just one person, but collectively as the group,

702
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens and in the course it will

703
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: all be documented. Cardinals Flight Plan Episode one right now

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Speaker 1: available on the Cardinals YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 1: any of the action. The next episode of the Emmy

707
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Speaker 1: Award winning series have more in depth on the draft

708
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Speaker 1: as far as behind the scenes on what took to

709
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Speaker 1: get the Cardinals at number sixteen with that player and

710
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Speaker 1: the entire draft overall. This is the Arizona Cardinals Red

711
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: Sea Report on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. I don't

712
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: know where Jimmy g was throwing that fall. I don't

713
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Speaker 1: know either. I can't guarantee that anybody in the world

714
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Speaker 1: will be alive Sunday, so I can't guarantee who will

715
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Speaker 1: be on our roster on Sunday, So that goes for

716
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Speaker 1: all of us, certainly not what anyone anticipated. Hearing from

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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers head coach Kyle Shanahan, when

718
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Speaker 1: asked specifically during a pre draft pressor, could he guarantee

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo being on the roster on Sunday. Well, he

720
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Speaker 1: can't guarantee that any of us will be on this earth,

721
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Speaker 1: let alone on a roster. Right Well, why are we

722
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: sitting here right now? Then we got a couple of

723
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: days left. We should go out and you know, obviously

724
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Speaker 1: start scratching things off our buckle list. Just toned death.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why he would say that. I guess

726
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Speaker 1: he didn't say right now it's something that's that have

727
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Speaker 1: been affected with COVID. We don't need to go that route.

728
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Speaker 1: But I understand that he's getting bombarded on questions. Forty

729
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Speaker 1: nine Ers keeping things very close to the vest as

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Speaker 1: far as what they do at pick number three be train.

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Speaker 1: We know that they are going to draft a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think we would all be stunned if they didn't

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Speaker 1: draft a quarterback. You don't move up to draft a

734
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Speaker 1: tight end or a wide receiver at pick number three.

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Speaker 1: The question is who is that quarterback? And then what

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Speaker 1: does it mean for the aforementioned Garoppolo. It means that

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Speaker 1: he shouldn't sell, he shouldn't buy, he should be selling,

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Speaker 1: and it means that he's not going to be long

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Speaker 1: for the job as San Francisco's starting quarterback. So I

740
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Speaker 1: think they're still hangover from that Super Bowl a few

741
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: years ago where he missed that pass. I think Kyle

742
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: Shanahan doesn't trust him ultimately with that offense, and I

743
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Speaker 1: think he's been looking for somebody to come in and

744
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 1: take his place because I think that was that moment

745
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: where everything fell apart. And Jimmy Garopolo is a good quarterback,

746
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: but he's just not healthy enough. He's not available enough.

747
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Speaker 1: And when you start considering what makes the franchise quarterback,

748
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Speaker 1: it's a guy you can depend on game in and

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Speaker 1: game out, and unfortunately, Jimmy Garoppolo hasn't met that standard yet.

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Speaker 1: And that's I think more than anything, because if you

751
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Speaker 1: look at a skill set, m j I don't know

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Speaker 1: if there's much different, just from what I've seen on

753
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: television Garoppolo and a Mac Jones. Now, if you want

754
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Speaker 1: to talk about Trey Lance and Justin Fields. Well, they

755
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: offer something a little bit different than a mac Jones

756
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Speaker 1: that are more athletic. But there is going to be

757
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Speaker 1: a lot on this number three pick with the San

758
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Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. Yeah, I hope they take a

759
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Not that I want to see them add

760
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Speaker 1: to Brandon Ayuk and Deebo Samuel, but I want the

761
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: drafts to go upside down there, I really do. Anyways,

762
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Speaker 1: you look at Jimmy Garoppolo's win loss record, it's very effective.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, though, when you rely on Nick Mullins

764
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Speaker 1: and c. J. Beathard, and clearly they wanted to have

765
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Speaker 1: a better backup quarterback because Garoppolo does get hurt. He

766
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: outplayed Patrick Mahomes for three and a half quarters in

767
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. It's what happened in the fourth quarters.

768
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: So again, they're always looking for the next the next door,

769
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: and I get that they're trying to plan for the future.

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Speaker 1: We all know about the rookie contracts and Hiken catch

771
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have some heavy contracts that they're gonna

772
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: have to extend and guys like Bosa, you know, possibly

773
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: some other you know, outstanding players over their Fred Warner.

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Speaker 1: So for the most part though, I mean, they feel

775
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: like they've done their homework. Now it's a matter of

776
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, who's the odd man out here? Is that

777
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: mac Jones going to be the guy? We know that

778
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 1: Wilson and m Lawrence are going one two? Where's Trey

779
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Speaker 1: Lance and where's Justin Fields. Forty nine Ers moved up

780
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Speaker 1: from number twelve, and it costs them a third round

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Speaker 1: pick and first round picks in twenty twenty two and

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. A hefty price to pay to select

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Speaker 1: third overall, the forty nine ers will be busy this week.

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Speaker 1: They have eight picks now. The other teams two teams

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Speaker 1: within the NFC, with the Seahawks and Rams, not a

786
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: whole lot of draft pack cap. But the Seahawks only

787
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: have three draft picks and their first comes in round two,

788
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Speaker 1: number fifty six overall. The Rams was six selections, none

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Speaker 1: in the first round. Their first time at the podium

790
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Speaker 1: will be in the second round, number fifty seven overall.

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Speaker 1: So they will be have a lot of free time,

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Speaker 1: and well, how are they going to be spending a

793
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: lot of that free time? While If you've seen it

794
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: on social media, the Rams draft setup is a Malibu

795
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: beach house. Yes, it must be nice. While we know

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Speaker 1: that Sean McVay and Cliff Kingsbury are friends, they like

797
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Speaker 1: to have fun at each other's expense. So when asked

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Speaker 1: about the Rams setup compared to kingsbury setup last year

799
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: in his Paradise Valley house, Kingsbury's response was a plus. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I really think it's just employed by McVeigh to allow

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Speaker 1: himself the opportunity to take your shirt off again and

802
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Speaker 1: jump in the pool like he did on Hard Knocks

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Speaker 1: Price Sibilo Rose, dip in the ocean and make some

804
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Speaker 1: draft picks a thing more than anything he had that up.

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Speaker 1: So it should be fun to watch. We'll be a

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00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: lot of fun because I'll give the Rams this credit,

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00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: m J. They do have a better draft setup than

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury did last year. Yeah, I mean it's they always.

809
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: I mean they got to compete with the Lakers and

810
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: Dodgers and now the padres Um. Listen, you know, if

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Speaker 1: I'm them, when the first round comes around, I just

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00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: show highlights of Jalen Ramsey and Jamal Adam. It's just

813
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: like the Cardinals show show highlights of DeAndre Hopkins, Rodney

814
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: Hudson and Marcus Golden. So that's what they should show

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Speaker 1: because that they invest it in top corners in the league,

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00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: and we know that when it comes to that this division,

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00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: you got to have secondary play. It's a rivalry. Certainly

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Speaker 1: be trained. But when you look at this NFC West

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Speaker 1: and the course, we hope that they don't draft well.

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Speaker 1: But as you've talked a lot about, and it's not

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Speaker 1: just this offseason, but offseasons prior, it's become an arms

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Speaker 1: race here as far as trying to one up one another,

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Speaker 1: and you better have those requisite position players that can

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Speaker 1: help you win championships in I think for those teams,

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers and the Rams and Seahawks, they're

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Speaker 1: all trying to find that one player. They're trying to

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Speaker 1: find that special player that can get them over the

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Speaker 1: hump in this division, because this is going to be

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Speaker 1: a brutal division. Whoever comes out of this division every

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Speaker 1: single year is going to be battle tested. They'll be

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Speaker 1: ready for the playoffs, and I'm excited to see how

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Speaker 1: this race unfolds. You throw in another game now, so

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00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: it just becomes that much more competitive. I love it,

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Speaker 1: and made the best team win and I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's all about competition and it doesn't get any better

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Speaker 1: than that. This time next week we will have draft

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Speaker 1: picks to talk about at number six team who knows.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a trade up or trade down, more likely

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Speaker 1: though the latter, to acquire more draft picks, and we

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Speaker 1: will talk about the twenty twenty one Cardinals draft class

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Speaker 1: in one week's time. Special. Thanks for those behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes making sure everything we're run smoothly. Our senior broadcast

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Speaker 1: Bertrand Berry. I'm Craig Rio Lou. Twenty twenty one NFL

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