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Speaker 1: And I really want to get Mark Karnes to start

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Speaker 1: What is it market Foul underscore out? What does it again? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: Our guests on the show. You kind of mentioned culture already.

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Speaker 1: Our campus here Blue looks never better in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: I mean big artwork. You guys. We've got sinister Karen Bronze, artists,

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Speaker 1: The art gallery's name is color Full Sin one word

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Speaker 1: Welcome lady and gent to Cannabis Talk one oh one

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Speaker 1: Tell us please, I love the name. By the way, Karen,

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Speaker 1: what a beautiful name. Thank you. I don't want a Caaren.

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Speaker 1: before we get to the piece, though, what did your

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Speaker 1: you know, I think it was Joe that was like,

425
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Speaker 1: that's not to look good. And I was like, dude,

426
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to You're gonna have to let like,

427
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with me on this because

428
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: I felt it, you know, and I go when it

429
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: was on the screen, it was too small. And then

430
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: he was like remember and then he was like and

431
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: I was like, whole this whole wall. He goes that

432
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: thing looks I don't like it, and I go, dude,

433
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,239
Speaker 1: wait to you see it on the wall though, you know,

434
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: And we started talking about the wall and it was

435
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: just kind of like, you know, and it's he's telling

436
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: me you don't like it. That'd be the best crush

437
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: right now. By the way, if you both as lartists going,

438
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you, well, here's that would

439
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: be the best for me. Here's the thing hold on

440
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: honestly for me, I like it though, so now I

441
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: like it a lot to crush both of us. And

442
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: when I'm telling people, I was going to go with

443
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: the green and the blue and the because I gotta

444
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: orange doors and stuff. I mean, people are like, you're crazy,

445
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: But fairness, this look is very colorful, like your guys

446
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: just look because everything your designs, I feel like I

447
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: agree with what you're alluding to. Blue. It's that pop color, vibrant, strong, beautiful, artistic, beautiful, different, creative,

448
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: like wow, I didn't see this comic bookie ish with

449
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: a twist of real life field Manhattan Beach family vibe

450
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: ish but yet fucking like just fireballs too, and all

451
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: cannabis vibe field too. It's so funny cool. If if

452
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: I could interject on this one, so I myself like

453
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: the character from the movie Blow, I grew up in

454
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: Manhattan Beach, George. He's a friend of mine on the

455
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: show Beach, so very literally born rays. I went through

456
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: every school in Manhattan Beach. Karna and I partnered up

457
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: on an art gallery in Manhattan Beach, and so we

458
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: started seeing artists and and stuff around Manhattan Beach and

459
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: what people, you know, curate for their own personal homes,

460
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: and oftentimes it's it's a sunset, it's a wave, it's

461
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: a lifeguard tower. But for the most part, it's oftentimes

462
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: like photography. So I was kind of telling car and like, hey,

463
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of you know, represent you know,

464
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: Manhattan Beach within our art gallery and the people that

465
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: appreciate things, but to stay a little different. We don't

466
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: want to have a gallery that's traditional. And so she

467
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: came up with that and I was like, that's pretty sick.

468
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like they're, you know, two graffiti

469
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: artists crossing each other out battling on the lifeguard tower.

470
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: Now do you guys get beef from the the owners

471
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: of you know, monopoly or any of that stuff where

472
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: you just change it And how does that work? I mean,

473
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: does that is that core? Yeah? I know, so currently,

474
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: you know, I have done a little research on you know,

475
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: what cannon can't be done, and as of right now,

476
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: it's just it's the it's a green light. You know,

477
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: it's I'm not trying to make a monopoly board, although

478
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: I do. I do paint, you know, mischievous, uh, you know,

479
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: bad behavior and so um you know, who knows if

480
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: if that day will come. But uh, in the meantime,

481
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: we're just we're just going for it. I love it,

482
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, and for me, it makes it more valuable,

483
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: you know. I you know, it's like black black black markets,

484
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: the permission to that way. And and and here's the thing, guys,

485
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: I mean you know, um, for me, I I think

486
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: it's flattery. It should be flattery, right, It's it's more

487
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: and it's making it more popular, and it looks beautiful

488
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: and and like I said, for you know, the thought

489
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: process of this artwork again, when I stop and look

490
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: at it, man, to me, it's just it's it's it's

491
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: well thought out and and and and it's very clean,

492
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: your guys, work is just very clean. And you know,

493
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: even the the details to like there's little things that

494
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: like you have to really be here to see it.

495
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to explain to people like like they're

496
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: in a dispensary, right and and this is the Starbuds one.

497
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: But you can see the the uh my headphones one out,

498
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: but you could see the uh I know, I know, yeah,

499
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: so that you can see the actual mirror this stuff

500
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: on the mirror, um the yeah, the of the glass right,

501
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: and then on the joint that was outside on the Gremlins,

502
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 1: for example, you could see the joint, and the actual

503
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: joint looks puffed out at you, and it looks like

504
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: it's it's it's in three dimensional, you know, it's and

505
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at this artwork and I started

506
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: diving into it, and I'm like, damn, you know, you know,

507
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: Felix has rolled over and he's got a joint burning

508
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: off his tail, and and it's just like there's so

509
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: many little things and that are that are more than

510
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: just the oh you know, I drew a picture you know,

511
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: to it almost but not only what he painted though,

512
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: which is even you elaborate one more step blue, because

513
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: everything you did with such a visual painting. But what

514
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: I'm looking at actually looks like I'm fucking looking on

515
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: TV on this painting of a can, Like it looks

516
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: like the canon is at TV. And it's like, is

517
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: that paint artwork stitched on? Like? What is this? Is

518
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: that a like a light up. I mean, it's just

519
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: more than just artwork and pain and loss, Like I

520
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: feel like it's deception, like because that's it's depth within

521
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: this picture as well, where you're like deceived of Wow,

522
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: this is so beautifully designed. It almost looks like around

523
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: canned TV. I love them, you know what I mean,

524
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: Like I would I want some like this is so

525
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: like different and I've never thought of it. I've never

526
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: seen it anywhere. I've never sure. That's one thing that

527
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: we do try to emphasize that we do try to

528
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: create a uniqueness rather than just kind of jumping on

529
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: what everyone else is doing. It's so we're gonna come back.

530
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: We're to talk a lot more about this, you guys.

531
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: We've got the high five with these two. I want

532
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: to talk more about ten years in prison and what

533
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: the first painting was that led to all this. It's

534
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one o one with Blue and Joe Grande,

535
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Speaker 1: the world's number one source for everything cannabis. Will be

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Speaker 1: right back after this. We'll be right back with Cannabis

537
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Speaker 1: Talk one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one

538
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Speaker 1: oh one. You guys, you heard about it. You see

539
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Speaker 1: him on the wall. Advanced Nutrients has a complete growing

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Speaker 1: You guys, and I want to thank our wonderful staff.

544
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: They are the best, right you guys want to thank

545
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: everybody in this building that's helping us out, from the

546
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: girls over there at the bar sitting down having shot

547
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Speaker 1: to our whole staff. Daniel cal Eric Christian a Christian,

548
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: asked Danny p Funk. And by the way, folks, p

549
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: Funk he has an amazing tribute that he did to

550
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: prints today that he put up online out out to

551
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: It's Prince's birthday today to the best. Yeah, man, it's

552
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 1: Prince's birthday and and and you know, I'll tell you

553
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: pe Funk has been working diligently on this beautiful It's yeah.

554
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: When I say, got to give the right website. If anybody,

555
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: did anybody notice punks hat. He's rocking the hat today.

556
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: He's rocking a Prince hat. He's in the Cannabis talk

557
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: one on campus, but he's out on the patio. Please

558
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: tell him to come over and hear you guys, as

559
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: I finished thanking Connor, Kimberly Sager, Sammy, Brianna, Cash, Cam Solar, Nadia,

560
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: Ali Pitt, Chris, Frank, Kino, Jennifer and Elvis. But as

561
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: you heard me staff today, thank you guys, you see

562
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: you guys, and the dog too. We want to thank

563
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: the dogs. I love her Punk. I was talking about

564
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: your tribute that you did on Prince's birthday. What is

565
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: the Instagram post that they can see that wonderful tribute?

566
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: I Underscore Purple Underscore project. It again, Underscore Purple Underscore project.

567
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: You guys, when it comes to cannabis, the room lights

568
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: up when you say purple. Yeah, and all bullshit aside.

569
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: Hear me now, believe me. Later, I got a chance

570
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: to watch this Blue, and I don't know if you

571
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: have his video that he produced for Prince's birthday that

572
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: he created is a masterpiece of artists. Okay when you

573
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: see that, I mean it is so dope. It's taken

574
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: him months and heart. Yeah. I'm so happy you talked

575
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: to him because I got a chance to hear his

576
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: full story. Blue, do yourself a favorite spent fifteen twenty

577
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: minutes to hear the true compact back the love and

578
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: passion that comes from p Funk when he did, it's

579
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: very similar to what you guys are doing, you know.

580
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: And while we're shouting, people shout out to the Blacklist

581
00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: is in the building, y'all, Yeah, Blacklist love you love

582
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: you right there, you know, And yeah exactly. But as

583
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: you're back here with all the artists over here, Sin

584
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: and of course your lovely uh lovely sinister cut car

585
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: in And as I said before we went to break Sin,

586
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: what was the first one in prison? And what led

587
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: you to pick up a pencil and get some colors? Like?

588
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: How do walk me through from the because I'm imagining

589
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: it's pencil first, like you tell me? Sure? So I

590
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: ended up starting UM my artistic you know, UM creative

591
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: abilities while I was incarcerated in federal prison. They have

592
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: UM programs there. They they even when you have what's

593
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: called the case manager, they have all these people that

594
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: oversee you. And one day in my case manager, on

595
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: a regular meeting, he said, hey, you're not programming, which

596
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: is another word for taking classes, so you know, you

597
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: have to do your routine. And so in tim me,

598
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, Okay, I'm in prison, I'm gonna take

599
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: school classes like alright, guy, and so yeah, and so

600
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: he was like you have to do it, blah blahlah.

601
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: So I was looking on one of the bulletin boards

602
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: and there was a um An oil painting class, and

603
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: so I signed up for the oil painting class and

604
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: they had um I served the substantial amount of my

605
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: time here in San Pedro, California at a facility called

606
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: Terminal Island. Shout out to everyone that's in Terminal Island

607
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: at the chow hall, the cannabis inmates. We need to

608
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: do something to get these people out. But on another note,

609
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: so they did have a hobby shop and I didn't paint,

610
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, inside of my cell. So when I signed

611
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: up for them the oil painting class, I was like

612
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: this is cool. And they're like, hey, you know, you

613
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: can get on a waiting list and you can get

614
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: a hobby locker, and through that locker it allows you

615
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: to purchase like paint canvas brushes through commissary. You're only

616
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: allowed there is a spending limit. So unfortunately I had

617
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: to sometimes like do I buy groceries or do I

618
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: buy paint brushes? So what what I was doing is

619
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: I would put have my family put money on other

620
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: people's commissary books and say hey, you buy me are

621
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: and I'm buying groceries. So I was kind of even

622
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: high on the hog right, So um, I took some

623
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: loyal painting classes, got my name on the list, and

624
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: eventually got a hobby locker. I started purchasing canvas and

625
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: paint and um, I saw something one day on TMZ

626
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: about another pop artist who was doing like monopolies genre

627
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: type of stuff and and that moment I didn't see

628
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: what the art was and he said he was selling

629
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: them for you know, thirty to sixty thousand. So on

630
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: my like standard called home to my mom, I was like, hey,

631
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: my mom was like my Google when I said I

632
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: need an art reference, so I couldn't. I didn't have

633
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: access to the internet. So I was like, hey, I

634
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: saw this guy on TV. He's an artist, can you

635
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: you know, send me in some of the stuff. And

636
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: so it was monopoly, but it was very like E G. Right,

637
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, through my background, why not

638
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: make the monopoly in like a trap house. So I

639
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: started experimenting and it just became fun. So other inmates

640
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: would ask me, hey, sin can you paint, you know,

641
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: a portrait of myself with my wife or my kid

642
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: or my girlfriend, And you know that's cool, like developing

643
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: my skills, and I would somewhat do that. Eventually, I

644
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: just started painting strictly for myself, and I started having

645
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: fun with the Monopoly character, and I thought, you know,

646
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: I started doing research on um, you know, artists and

647
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: and they do like series and collections, and initially I

648
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: thought I was using my my government name, and I

649
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: just thought, you know, I'll just create a collection or

650
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: a series and I'll call it Sinister Monopoly. And it

651
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: just became so much fun. So I painted in public,

652
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: and when I mean public, like in the yard of

653
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: the prison. Any inmate could come through and just kind

654
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: of hang out and watch, right, And so I started

655
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: doing it and it became fun oftentimes popular too. Absolutely

656
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: inmates would come by and just start laughing like, oh

657
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: my god, that's all hilarious. You gotta do this and

658
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: make his arm that and do that. And so it

659
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: just was more something that I would rather paint something

660
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: that's fun. Did they let you leave the star? They

661
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: let you leave the prison with all that, So they

662
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: have what's called Every Wednesday, as they call they have

663
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: a mail out, which is ironically as uh an inmate,

664
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to I'm not allowed to have cardboard, right,

665
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: but I'm allowed to mail things out? So how do

666
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: I get a cardboard box? How do I mail something that?

667
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: Like every now that I'd have to like dig through

668
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: the trash or go somewhere, and like, I need to

669
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: get a cardboard I got at this painting I did,

670
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: and I would walk from the north yard to the

671
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: south yard and a guard might stop me, Hey, what

672
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: are you doing that cardboard? And I'm like, hey, man,

673
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: I got a mail out tonight, you know. And so uh,

674
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: they had a mail out every Wednesday. And it was

675
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: funny because we're only allowed to use stamp and so

676
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: sometimes I was sending stamps on you're kidding me, seriously.

677
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: I would literally have like sixty or seventy Mexican map yeah,

678
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: and so um, eventually, when I did, I was kind

679
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: of like a precursor, like setting myself up, knowing in

680
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: my head I'm gonna be I'm gonna make a run

681
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: for an artist. So eventually, um, other inmates would come

682
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: to me and say, paint for me. And I told him, Nope,

683
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't paint for inmates. I only paint

684
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: and I'm sending him home for like a kickstart to

685
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: my my career. So when I was in a halfway house,

686
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: and the funny thing is it was Marvin Gardens and Watts,

687
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: which is a monopoly property Gardens, so I was in

688
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: the house and spiritually and of course the federal federal

689
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: federal prison. While I was at Marrin Gardens, they would

690
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: take of whatever I would make. So I would go

691
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: to the bank and I started having even when I

692
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: would go get a cashier's check. They were like monopoly

693
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: Marvin Gardens, like what you know, almost yeah, yeah. I

694
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: literally had about a hundred and twenty paintings at my

695
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: father's house. And while I was out pretty early on

696
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: almost maybe like three weeks, an art gallery and I

697
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: never had social media prior to my incarcetration, and I

698
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: was trying to like learn Instagram. Here I'm in Watts,

699
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: not allowed to leave the halfway house, and an art

700
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: gallery was like, hey, this is cool. How much is it?

701
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: And so in my head I started thinking, well, this

702
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: other guy is getting like thirty sixty thousand, So I

703
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: shot him this crazy price. He's like, oh, that's like

704
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: exceeding my you know, price point within my gallery. And

705
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, cool. And then I thought about

706
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 1: it and I wasn't at that time allowed to leave

707
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: the halfway house. I was still confined, and I thought,

708
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna call this guy. And

709
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: so I called him and asked to speak to him.

710
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, check this out. You know,

711
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm in a halfway house. I'm here from prison, and

712
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: this is my story. And he's like, m do we

713
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: like share this information with the world. And I was like,

714
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: it's not a heinous crime, it's not a bad crime.

715
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: Let's embrace it. So he was like absolutely. So he

716
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: told me it's like, can you come to the gallery.

717
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: I had to get permission through my case manager. They

718
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: allowed me to go, and I showed up at this

719
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: person's gallery like seventy paintings, and I think he was

720
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: like he was thinking I was going up with and

721
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: so I showed up with seventy Like what are we doing?

722
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'm here. I plugged me up, you know,

723
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: And so he was like, hey, can you come and

724
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: paint live in the gallery? And it just so happened.

725
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: It was like after Black Friday, like the Saturday after

726
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, the shopping extravaganza for Christmas shopping, and so

727
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: again I had to get permission from the Halfway House,

728
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: and I got permission to go on a Saturday, although

729
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: I had already left about seventy paintings like on a Monday,

730
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: so they had already sold a number of paintings before

731
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: the Saturday. Just me going to like tinker around and paint,

732
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: and the gallery owners texted me when are you gonna

733
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: be here? And I was like, oh, I'm on, I'm

734
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: in the car, I'm on my way, and he's like,

735
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: people are waiting, and I just thought, okay, people are waiting.

736
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: Like I didn't think much of it. When I got there,

737
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: there was like a line of people that purchased my

738
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: artwork and they were like you're amazing. We want an autograph,

739
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: we want pictures. And I was like taken back, like

740
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: like I I was like a preminie, absolutely completely gone.

741
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: And so I had taken this negative of a prison

742
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: and I just I fought every day and I painted

743
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: every single day in prison. There was not a day

744
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: that I just was like, you know, what I'm not

745
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: gonna paint today because I had worked on your craft.

746
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: You worked on your business every day. Yeah, and then

747
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: so I'm a I oftentimes clown. So I'm in the

748
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: hobby shop and the same crew of homies are in there,

749
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: and we would always just bust jokes on each other

750
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: and and so I just had fun and in even

751
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: in prison, like so I eventually got into it. I

752
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: started out with they call it with your car, when

753
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: you run with your race. I started with the whites.

754
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: And I had a problem with this guy who ordered

755
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: like five paintings for his kids for Christmas. And I

756
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: was like, boom, boom boom, And this is what led

757
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: me to stop painting for inmates. He was like slow

758
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: paying me, and I was like, oh no, this is

759
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: like in prison. He owed me fourteen hundred dollars and

760
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: so it was like, you know, I was like, hey,

761
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: I got shoot me a store list. You know, I'll

762
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: shoot you a store list so you can pay me back.

763
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, shoot me one for forty bucks. And

764
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: I was like forty dollars, Like what am I gonna do? Dude?

765
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: You owe me? Like it was like twelve or four hundreds.

766
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: So it became an issue. Long story short is I

767
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: ended up having to like not having to, but I

768
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: eventually swapped over and ran with the Southsiders, which is

769
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: not like a Paisa, but it's a Mexican that's traditional

770
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: Latino gang members. So they knew that I was beefing

771
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: with the whites and having problems within Yeah, so they

772
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: came to me and they said, hey, we checked you out,

773
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: we ran your stuff, We've looked you up. You can

774
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 1: run with us. And I looked at him, like, wow,

775
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: this is crazy because I just got into a fight

776
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: with these guys, and and some of the Whites were

777
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: defending the dude who owed me money because he was

778
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: going no, he was he was kind of like a

779
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: Bernie made off on his case. He was around taking

780
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: ship tons of money from people on investments and then

781
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: spending it on his own like I'm gonna buy a

782
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: car with Blues money. So he was one of those dudes,

783
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: and he was going around in order to kind of

784
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: like um fit in. He was fronting out you know,

785
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: like drugs in the community that he would get, you know, maths,

786
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: be whatever it was, and all these things are available

787
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: within the federal system. And he was shooting him to

788
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: all of the people. So some of those people took

789
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: his side because yeah, they were getting tope off the guy.

790
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, nah, like this dude needs to

791
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: be regulated. Most of the time. What regulated in prison

792
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: would mean is that you would take him into the

793
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: shower and then he gets beat up from the way

794
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: down for like seconds, a minute, whatever the case was.

795
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: So when the Southsiders came to me and I was like, hey,

796
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: I really respect you guys. I eventually said, well, let's meet.

797
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: I went and sat down on their table their TV room,

798
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: and they came to me and one of them said, dude,

799
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: you're with us. We represent you, We got you. Fuck

800
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: them anything those guys have, they got a problem with

801
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: all of us. And when he said that, I was like, man,

802
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: that's a lot of love, because some of the other

803
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: guys were um on the fence, like who do they

804
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: cool with the dude that's given him the drugs or

805
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: the dude that's rightfully owned money because I sent his

806
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: kids artwork home for Christmas? What's right as right? Player? Yeah,

807
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: right as right? So you ran with the homies, yeah,

808
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: and and then and then can you finish the story

809
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: to anything I like the story. It's a great story.

810
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens, so, I mean, I guess

811
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't know where I was going with that portion

812
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: of it, but it was just get your money. No, well,

813
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: actually no, he checked in. He like what they is

814
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: PC up. All of a sudden, one day, somebody came

815
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: to guards and said, you're going to the shoe, which

816
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 1: is a shoe. It's an acronym for special holding units

817
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: on lockdown. So one of the reasons why the homies

818
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: approached me is because he owed like five or ten

819
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: thousand on the yard to those guys, and they're like,

820
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: we know what he's doing, Like he's trying to get

821
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: a conflict, so he can automatically kind of go to

822
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: the shoe without it looking like a check in. Yeah,

823
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But at Terminal Island, it's

824
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: so weird that they have hardly any cameras. So you

825
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: can go in multiple places on the prison and fight

826
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: and no one's gonna see, you know, and or die. Yeah, absolutely,

827
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: it's prison, right all right, So so lucky and you know,

828
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: I want to jump into the high five with you guys,

829
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: So you ready to hit the road with this I'm

830
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: absolutely ready to hit that. That's just your story due

831
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: to want to get their their places color full sense

832
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: ce l O R f U L s I N

833
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: in Manhattan Beach, Southern California for coming down here and

834
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: check it out. We'll have a full episode on on

835
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: YouTube where you can where our listeners can go watch

836
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 1: and check out some of the artwork and and and

837
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: definitely go go find the links and stuff like that,

838
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: because you guys am telling you this, These these two

839
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: have some amazing, amazing Well it's a treat for your eyes.

840
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: For your eyes, you want to take your eyes go

841
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: look at this what we just said, because it's a

842
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: treat for Blue. Thank you for finding them. You know,

843
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: your listeners also might want to thank Blue for so

844
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: as if they get in on what we call early

845
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: on our artwork, you know, doing a little forward thinking,

846
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: which I often times like to do. Is uh, you know,

847
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: our evaluation of these artworks. We're nothing but going up,

848
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's just a matter

849
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: of time before you know, maybe I'm on like a

850
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: Netflix or something a documentary and these things are no

851
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: longer the current price that they are. Well, your story

852
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: and what and what it is is is today's price

853
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: is not tomorrow's price, not yesterday's price, but one last

854
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: day too before we do go to the High five.

855
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: Is you know, I think there's a um, you know,

856
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: opportunity that here because one of the guys from aspired

857
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: that was here, that that had his um you know,

858
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: he he was talking to you gave your her in

859
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: the uh car interest and purchasing about the interesting purchasing

860
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: it right. But but no, what he was telling me

861
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: is he said he works with um. Um. Did I

862
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: miss something? What I missed? Yeah, I didn't say that.

863
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: I said, didn't say that right? Everything that okay? Uh,

864
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 1: I said, Karen, okay, all right? Well um, but anyways,

865
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: the going into the to that is he said, hey,

866
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: you know I work with a lot of these artists

867
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: and they have a beautiful facility as well. And he said,

868
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: I put up a lot of artwork in our place

869
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: and then we we have people um come in and

870
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: then ask about it and I say, hey, it's for sale,

871
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: and then they'll sell it there for the artist. And

872
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: so you know I thought about too. I mean, we

873
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: could probably sell some artwork here. We have you know,

874
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: a really like high end clientele. To come through here.

875
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean we we did, um uh what was it

876
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: fort twenty here and the police came and they were like,

877
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, the lady pulls up out front. She's like, hi, Christopher, right,

878
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: She's she walks up and she's like, hey, I just

879
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: want to ask you. She's like, you know, I've never

880
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: seen so many beautiful cars in this neighborhood. You know,

881
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: there's Rolls, Royces Ferraris. I mean, there's just just an

882
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: enormous amount of you know, client, tell here's what's going on.

883
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, we're having an event. And I walked

884
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: her through the whole place, and we've talked about the

885
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: story on the air before. But um, you know, there

886
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: are a lot of business owners here. Um, you know,

887
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: I mean there's you know right now, there's the people

888
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: as we speak here, there's plenty of there's plenty of

889
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: money here too. And I just think there's a lot

890
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: of people that have the taste for this kind of

891
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: artwork and would love to see it in their home

892
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: or their own collections or even their offices. So absolutely so,

893
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: carn And I almost as like a graffiti artist. You say,

894
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: you want to get up on that wall, you know

895
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: what I mean, and you want to have your name.

896
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: So that's essentially like what it's all about for us

897
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: as artists, get it out there, you know. So absolutely, So,

898
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: what what Karn and I have been doing recently is

899
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: so some of the cannabis Um dispensaries, through their licensing,

900
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: they're not allowed to actually sell products that are outside

901
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: of cannabis. But what they are doing to kind of

902
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: circumvent that and super superseded, let's say, is that they'll

903
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: they'll feature our art on the wall with a little

904
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: QRC code which goes directly to you know, whether it's PayPal, Venmo,

905
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 1: cash app. So they're paying the artists directly as opposed

906
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: to like, oh, I'm gonna go buy this from the

907
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: dispensary at the cashier and I'm also purchasing art. So

908
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: UM actually had some some great news this morning. I

909
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: just spoke to somebody that actually owns Starbuds, one of

910
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: my good buddies that I used to He was able

911
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: to make the transition of becoming from the gray markets. Yeah,

912
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,959
Speaker 1: so my friend owns the federal trademark and the name

913
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: star Starbuds. Yeah, I love it. And so, uh, one

914
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: of the things I'll be doing. I leave to Seattle

915
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: on Thursday. I'll be setting up at least like six

916
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: to start off with dispensaries as art galleries and like

917
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: fast forwarding into the future. We would like for like

918
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: myself to be like synonymous. When you think of like

919
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: Cypress Hill, you think of cannabis, cheech and chong cannabis, right,

920
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: so my art is very cannabis. So we want to

921
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: essentially take what we're doing and have like conceptualize every

922
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: dispensary in America cannot only sell cannabis, but now they

923
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: can feature artists like myself and still be a part

924
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: of like, you know, the the genre. Let's say, right,

925
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: so to put some car in and let's go. Because

926
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: you guys are at every dispense you there is, it's

927
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: beautiful artwork. Yeah, so absolutely we could furnish you guys out,

928
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: check the walls, make some cool pieces, even make it

929
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: to where it's so great on today's technology where someone

930
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: could walk up to that piece, no one has to

931
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: even talk to him, and they could say, oh, dude,

932
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: I can pay for it right here. Let me just

933
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: letting blue, No I bought it, you send me a

934
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: text from I just bought this blue. I sent it

935
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: to sins Venmo. Thank you so like the technology, she said, yeah,

936
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: the technology car in the cash so so great. You

937
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: know they didn't have that to my pre incarceration. You know,

938
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: nobody was really doing these cash apps. I was just

939
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: talking about that. It's like the whole the whole world.

940
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: The banks had to jump on. Yeah, it was over,

941
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: like they were gonna lose everything because now you can

942
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: leave your money in those two So you can leave

943
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: it in cash app, and you can leave it in

944
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: zell and you can leave it in these different places.

945
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: It made you where the world's it's it's moving. I'm

946
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: just still happy about email. I didn't I went to college,

947
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: I didn't have email. I gradually like, whoa, It's like,

948
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: you know when you come out, you didn't have these things.

949
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: Now let's go to the High five. You guys go

950
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: to this gallery. We have the artist, the actress, the

951
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: gallery owners Sinister Karen Bronze, car In Bronze and Sin

952
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: Minister monopoly. Of course the gallery is colorful. Sin. Question

953
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: number one, we'll start with ladies. First, car In you'll

954
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: answer it, and then Sin you'll answer right after her.

955
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: The same question. Question number one. How old you the

956
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: first time you spoke to cannabis? Where'd you get it from? Oh?

957
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: I was too passed. I was twenty one. I was

958
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: in Australia with my ex boyfriends older sisters Auntie and

959
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,479
Speaker 1: aunt good time. So really quickly what kind of bud

960
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: did they have in Australia? A hydro? Well? I was

961
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: like what is this? I was, you know, coughing and

962
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: puffing and I'm like okay, and I just felt like paralyzed,

963
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: I cannot move sep kind of thing. It's my first experience. Yeah,

964
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: did you like it? I'm kind of hyper already, so

965
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: it was kind of a weird feeling, but I liked it.

966
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: It was fun? Yeah? Nice? What so interesting? Lee Enough?

967
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: So I grew up in Manhattan Beach. On my block

968
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: was you know, like one of the older kids from

969
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. He's literally like six or seven houses down.

970
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm maybe like sixteen or seventeen, probably getting ready to

971
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: become like a freshman, but making the transition, and he

972
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: was already a couple of grades older than myself, and uh,

973
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 1: we just started kind of hanging out because his house

974
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: was like on my block. He would hang out and

975
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: so we started smoking at his house. He was already

976
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: like an avid, you know, cannabis person on a daily

977
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: like most of us. But he introduced to me and

978
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: I remember like I had recently got my driver's license.

979
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: Back then, it was all into like mini trucks, right,

980
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: and so I had the little Mazda beach and it's

981
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: all dump and I remember being like super lit and

982
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: we were like, let's go cruising. Back then it was

983
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: more about like cruising on a Friday Saturday night, and

984
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: we went to Ridano Beach, which was called the Esplanade.

985
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: Back then you're allowed to like cruise. Now they've kind

986
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: of like rectified that and booted out all the cruisers.

987
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: So I remember just being like super lit getting in

988
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: the car, like just the experience of you know, being

989
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: a youngster and like an older you know high school

990
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: or like hey do this, But the the actuality was um.

991
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: So my dad was also um. He wasn't like a

992
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: cannabis person, but he was a smoker, so as I

993
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: would come. So my parents divorced very early on when

994
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: I was maybe like kindergarten. But my dad had I

995
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: have a brother, and he had um so like every

996
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: other weekend, we would go to my dad's house. And

997
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: I can remember remember the old school, people had TV

998
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: trays in front, like at the house. People probably don't

999
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: know that, like a little train and just like a

1000
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: little table, right, So I can remember my dad had

1001
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: like mounds of weed, just personal though not like selling,

1002
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: and he would smoke and then I would like, man,

1003
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: that smells so good, you know. So it was always

1004
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: in my head. And then even when um, I eventually

1005
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: was like staying at my dad's house, like very early on,

1006
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: like sixteen fifteen, UM my dad had his stash like

1007
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: really high in the kitchen, like above the refrigerator. I

1008
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: was always wondered, like where is It's no, he's smoking.

1009
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: I know he's smoking, and it's in here somewhere, and

1010
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: I'm searching high and low the house. And one day

1011
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: when I found it was like jackpot, you know. So

1012
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: I started raiding my dad's stash. And I remember one

1013
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: day my dad's an entrepreneuri owned some dry cleaners. He

1014
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: had come home for the day and my friends and

1015
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: I were in the bedroom smoking and it was all

1016
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: smoked at we're probably like sixteen, and he was like,

1017
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: what are you guys doing in here, and we're like, uh,

1018
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: because he didn't say much. He's like, you guys, just

1019
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: get out of here, go find something to do, you know,

1020
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: somewhere else. It was. It was kind of in rooted

1021
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: within my you know, my bloodlines, but also you know,

1022
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: right down the street from my house in Manhattan Beach.

1023
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: Question number two of the High five what is your

1024
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: favorite way to use or smoke cannabis? Young lady? I

1025
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: like to eat chocolates or the good toffees edible? No way? Yeah, high?

1026
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: Does low doos where you at high? Actually? I usually

1027
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: eat too much of him nice, So the day after

1028
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: it's not that fun. Sleep, I can like eat a

1029
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: whole package and then yes, and it's not great. Does

1030
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't hit you that hard? Already hit you super,

1031
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm out nice? Knock you out? Yea, knock me out. Yeah.

1032
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: There's a there's a collector of ours that owns an edible.

1033
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: Oh it's so good. I can see it brought us

1034
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: some and Carl was like, oh my god, I love

1035
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: the peanut bread. And I was like, be careful. I've

1036
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: never tried peanut Be careful. Tried to have a small

1037
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: It's like you can have not not one you have

1038
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: to have a few favorite anybody listening ever wants to

1039
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: send me peanuts? Pretty intoxicated on one of the first

1040
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: like heavy, heavy edible sessions. Oh my god, yeah myself.

1041
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: I'm for some reason, I just love like like like

1042
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 1: just rolling up a joint. You know, I've just white paper.

1043
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: Oftentimes friends are all about the blunt, but I'm not

1044
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: so much like like a load de bok. I just

1045
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: like to roll one smoke. We're in the art studio.

1046
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: Oftentimes I'm smoking, you know, so much for my probation,

1047
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: but you know whatever, we're here. Okay, Question thirty of

1048
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: the High Fi with these lovely people, go check out

1049
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: their beautiful gallery, colorful sin. Craziest place you ever use

1050
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: cannabis or smokes car in at a festival festival? Why

1051
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: was it so crazy? Was it a nun festival? It

1052
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: was kind of a crazy No, it was like a

1053
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: corilla second time in Sweden, in Colla in the desert,

1054
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: Nevada or dam near Nevada. Yeah, kind of like it

1055
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: feels like you're going to Nevada. What about So I

1056
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: would probably have to say Federal Prison Terminal Island, But

1057
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: I started off my bid in the Atlanta Penitentiary, which

1058
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: is known as the Castle, right, and they would I

1059
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: was at I started off in like um Ay three

1060
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: and one lockdown. You know, they let you out for

1061
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: one hour a day. And I remember to go to

1062
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: the yard. It was all caged up and it was

1063
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: relatively new, like I had just been sentenced and the

1064
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: first place I went to was the pen and and

1065
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: I remember looking on the ground. There was like little

1066
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: roaches and I was like, oh, man, Like I had

1067
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: been in a really secure waiting to get sentenced in

1068
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: like a pod, and they couldn't really you know, no

1069
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: one was really smoking. Some of the um Puerto Ricans

1070
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: have been flown in and we're starting they were starting

1071
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: to smoke banana peels, which was pretty intriguing. You know.

1072
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: I was like whatever, So they were lightening up banana

1073
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: peels in our first pod. But so eventually when I

1074
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: hit you know, Terminal Island, there's a you know a

1075
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: lot of stuff on the yard and so sometimes you

1076
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: can actually get you know, flower. But they also do

1077
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: have synthetic, which is you know known to as like

1078
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: um sylvia sylvia right right, It's not even close to

1079
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: being like weed. I mean, it's that's should floya. It's

1080
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: a totally different game. Yeah. So, um, that was something

1081
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: people inmates were bringing in because it appeal was snippetts,

1082
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: smoke it drinking. It almost looks like when you have

1083
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: a rabbit, you have all this dust on the bottom

1084
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: of this thing, like it's it's the strange. It's not,

1085
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: it's not weird, and it's I don't even know what

1086
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: how they call it synthetic because it has nothing to

1087
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: do with it. I mean, there's marinal to apparently there's

1088
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: cannabinoids and some sort of thing you know, in through it,

1089
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: but it doesn't hit you like wead at all. It's

1090
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a different puts you different, whole different. Yeah,

1091
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: sometimes it does. So the reason why they were doing

1092
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: that is because, uh, there are um u A s,

1093
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: which is a urine analysis piss test. While you're incarcerated,

1094
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: they might just come knock on you and say, hey,

1095
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: sin go to medical and that just means more than

1096
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: likely somebody around yourself snatched on you and you have

1097
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: to go do a U A. So they were doing

1098
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: what's we were referring to in the in the prison

1099
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: as spice. That's what it was called. That's what they called. Yeah,

1100
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: that's really heavy, and I didn't realize how heavy it

1101
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: was in some case. I remember coming back from the

1102
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: yard one time and one of my cellis was like,

1103
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: and so granted, um salt. Yeah, And so you have

1104
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 1: to smoke a very very small amount. Most of the time.

1105
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: We're sharing it with like three homies in our cell

1106
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: and we're all like, hey, it's like one hit, you know,

1107
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: which is good for that fact, because you would get

1108
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: knocked on your you know, if you're going to take

1109
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: it all to yourself. Right. So we were smoking a

1110
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: lot of spice. And I remember just like at the

1111
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: TV room in the yard I was in was a

1112
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: three story building and we would be in the homies

1113
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: and we like locked up at night and sometimes we

1114
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: would have access to the TV like eleven o'clock midnight,

1115
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: one in the morning, and we would be in there.

1116
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: I would literally have my feet on the table like

1117
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: watching ale yeah, and TV, like watching TV like smoking

1118
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: in prison, like oh my gosh. And I remember one

1119
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: time I actually um had actually got real bud, right,

1120
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: and I was they don't tell you when you go

1121
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: to medical it's real or fake or what. No, Well,

1122
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: they just don't tell you like, so no, I got

1123
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: real bud right and I was smoking. I remember they

1124
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: do it's it discount a couple of times a day,

1125
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: and my cell was like reeking like skunk, and I

1126
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: was like, oh, for sure, I'm gonna get hit, you

1127
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so I remember one day

1128
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: like I I you can turn in, which UM notes

1129
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: to like if you're having issues medically and you need

1130
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: to go to a doctor, sometimes it's outside the facility.

1131
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: So I didn't realize I had been smoking for like

1132
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 1: a week, like real cannabis, not spice. And the guard

1133
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: came to my things like hey, reports a medical on

1134
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: the next move and I was like, oh man, I'm hit.

1135
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: And I remember just taking a leak leak over and over,

1136
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: like just not leak, drinking tons of water, you know,

1137
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: to the next controlled movement. I was supposed to go there,

1138
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: and when I go there, like, oh, you're going to

1139
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: outside medical. Oh my gosh, I had so much water

1140
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: in my system. I'm in the same orange suit. I'm

1141
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: in the car and I'm like telling the guards and

1142
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm cuffed up at the front and the ankles. I'm like, man,

1143
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: I gotta go to the bathroom. Holding you. But I'm like,

1144
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm not holding it in, we're not pulling

1145
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: over and like going, and I was, so I I

1146
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: did the zip down in front and I leaned over.

1147
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: I leaned over in the van and literally took a

1148
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: leak in the van and the guy was like, what

1149
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: are you doing at the red light? I'm like, bro,

1150
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? And then when he got out,

1151
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm gonna report you to the captain. I'm like,

1152
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: do whatever, man, tell one of the orderlies to come

1153
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: clean it up, you know. But so that was the

1154
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: thing I would. I would smoke while I was incarcerated.

1155
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: You know, that's a big deal. Yeah, it's a crazy place.

1156
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: So a cap, they call it a cap, which is

1157
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: like a chapstick cap, and it's all packed full, and

1158
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: then that might be like fifty bucks for that little

1159
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: tiny pack man. Question number four of the high five.

1160
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: What is your go to munchie after you get high?

1161
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: Swedish chocolate? Chocolate? Yeah, Swedish talk you talk about Swiss chocolate,

1162
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: but Sweetish chol is very good to Marlow. Yeah, what

1163
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: do you get that? Just like you know, you can't

1164
01:02:55,240 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: just pick it up at the grocery store. Ye have

1165
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: a good little Sweedish chocolate at home right now, comes

1166
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: in a little box, you know, the big chocolate bar.

1167
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: It has like little strips of it. It was the

1168
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: first time I got it for my birthday on it

1169
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: for my fifth birthday. Swedish. I don't know Swiss, you

1170
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: know what the damn Swiss always trying to take your

1171
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 1: Swedish credit for it. Yeah, I mean people talk about

1172
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: Swiss chocolate is the best in the world, but I

1173
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: think Swedish chocolate is the best. The Swedish women I

1174
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: don't know about. But the chocolate, that's a good And

1175
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: what about you? So so you know, I'm I'm really

1176
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: bad when it comes to the sweets. Even even like

1177
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: while I was InCAR scratted they have which is a

1178
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: unique stone buns. Yeah, so people don't know. Maybe people

1179
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: need to have what's called a hustle. And a hustle

1180
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: is how you buy groceries. And you might do various things.

1181
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: You might iron someone's clothes, you might clean their clothes,

1182
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: you might do art. You might like working laundry and

1183
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: give them clean, brand new sauce. So like, you know,

1184
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: whatever scenario is right. So some people do what's called

1185
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: a store. And so if you don't have money in

1186
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: the here and now, you can go to somebody like

1187
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: let's say, let's say Joe is the store guy. So

1188
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: I go to Joe on the on the yard and

1189
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: I'd be like, hey, Joe, I need a candy bar.

1190
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: I need three snickers and a bottle and a bag

1191
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: of chips, and so you'll give me all that on

1192
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: the front, and then this week I owe you double.

1193
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: So that's like and it just makes me think of

1194
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: like the full sweet tooth. Like most of the time,

1195
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: every week I always owed the store guy because I

1196
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: was always leverage is buying, buying, buying, And when homies

1197
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: would roll up and like, hey, hang out with me, man,

1198
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: let me get you a soda, let's get some sneakers,

1199
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: and we would like commiserate over snacks, you know, but

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01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: I would say, my go to is probably like some

1201
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: sort of chocolate like Derito's. I'm always like annihilating the

1202
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: whole entire back. I'm a gremlin. Oh that is great.

1203
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: It's the high five with these amazing artists, the act

1204
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: just the her Sinister Karen Bronze and of course, since

1205
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: Sinister Monopoly, the Gallery, Colorful Sin. Question number five with

1206
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: the high five. If you could smoke cannabis with anyone

1207
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: dead or alive, who would it be and why? Jim

1208
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: Carrey n I know he's making incredible paint. Go ahead,

1209
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: tell us your story Abouttom No No. So if I

1210
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: had I'm more of like a clown and the comedian.

1211
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: When it comes time to watching a movie, my go

1212
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: to is comedy, So I think it would be like

1213
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: like I probably would want to do like Dave Chappelle,

1214
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, or like a Chris Rock or somebody where

1215
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: we could just sit and just laugh. You know, Dude,

1216
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle is his show is is damn near just

1217
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if you haven't seen it, please love R

1218
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: James Chapelle's show. Guys, So listen anything else that we've

1219
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: forgot before we let you guys get on out of here. Um,

1220
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: you know that we missed on this show. Guys. Uh,

1221
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how about you, Karen, when

1222
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: you have to say I had one error. The craziest

1223
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: place I've ever smoked was in Amsterdam. I went to

1224
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: the cafe and I got this big joint like that

1225
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: and it just smoke everywhere that's awesome. Well listen, guys.

1226
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining the show. Guys, and it's

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Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one and remember this, if no

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01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: one else lives you, we do. Thank you for listening

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01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: to Cannabis Talk one oh one on the I Heart

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