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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, March fourth.
Speaker 3: I'm JB hear at all.
Speaker 2: Here's Kyle Brand, Cody Kesler, DeMarco far Are you doing
Speaker 2: something to get.
Speaker 3: Ready for the show.
Speaker 4: It's Flexen getting ready. Got a quarterback in the room.
Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, you've been salivating about that eatah'sh my gosh.
Speaker 2: It is a franchise Tag day, Kyle. We have a
Speaker 2: lot to look forward to with the calendar.
Speaker 3: How you doing.
Speaker 2: You're in LA for a couple of days, doing great.
Speaker 1: I'm in La. I'm glad to be here at the
Speaker 1: table with you guys, and I'm just glad to say
Speaker 1: that we just did one of my favorite segments we've
Speaker 1: done in weeks and weeks, and that was Cody Kesler
Speaker 1: talking about his entry into the NFL. If you didn't
Speaker 1: see it and you're watching us live on TV, we'll
Speaker 1: put it on social shortly. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: times we get players come in and they'll remember a
Speaker 1: play or a moment from their career and they'll say, oh,
Speaker 1: I took this huge hit and it was crazy, and
Speaker 1: then we go back and look at the video and
Speaker 1: you're like, actually, it wasn't that bad, Like it doesn't
Speaker 1: live up to their story. They remember it differently. Yeah,
Speaker 1: years lived up to the story. Years exceeded the story.
Speaker 1: If you missed it, Cody came in as a rookie
Speaker 1: with the Browns years ago and his first several snaps
Speaker 1: of his first professional start were endearingly disastrous. And you
Speaker 1: took us through the segment. If you did not see
Speaker 1: the segment, it was incredible and Cody just laid it
Speaker 1: out perfectly. Great job, and we will share it with you.
Speaker 1: It was so fun.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: It was tough to live through that, but if you
Speaker 5: came out with yourself, you know what are we doing?
Speaker 3: And the positive was.
Speaker 5: Is that after that, I kind of settled in a
Speaker 5: little bit and had a good game. But if it
Speaker 5: wasn't a good game, I probably would have been hesitant
Speaker 5: to I.
Speaker 1: Want to know, who needs to see that segment, Shador Sanders,
Speaker 1: cam Ward, all of these quarterbacks we're going to be
Speaker 1: drafted in fifty one days.
Speaker 3: You're going to get a wake up.
Speaker 1: Get ready. That's what I'm saying this guy was, this
Speaker 1: guy's the USC throwing it around. He's got a pretty
Speaker 1: good guy. Things changed fast on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Will Howard had kind of a hard weekend and
Speaker 2: shugre Sander's coming in to his defense. Guys like that
Speaker 2: that should learn a good lesson from you.
Speaker 5: It's going to happen whether you like it or not
Speaker 5: in any position, but quarterback it's the toughest because all
Speaker 5: eyes are on you. Right, you get all the praise,
Speaker 5: but you also get all the hate, and when it happens,
Speaker 5: the most important thing is how do you react to all?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So those are some reoky quarterbacks that we could see
Speaker 2: playing in the fall next season. But it's NFL franchise egg.
Speaker 2: We have to figure out a couple of different names.
Speaker 2: That the land place is Ian Rappaport, Welcome in. You
Speaker 2: got some teams on your list that you and Tom
Speaker 2: p are making sure you are covering all the news
Speaker 2: regarding this list. But let's start with the quarterback in
Speaker 2: Minnesota and work our way through.
Speaker 6: Now, let's start with Sam Donald. As the news came
Speaker 6: out last night, the Minnesota Vikings are not expected to
Speaker 6: franchise tag Sam Donald according to me and Tom, something
Speaker 6: really that has building been building over.
Speaker 7: The last several days.
Speaker 6: I know for a lot of people this seems strange.
Speaker 6: If he's starting quarterback to the Vikings, why would you
Speaker 6: not franchise tag him forty million dollars, lock it in
Speaker 6: and move on. The reason is is because there's other
Speaker 6: factors a player. Of course, we know the Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 6: have JJ McCarthy, a young quarterback of rookie last year
Speaker 6: who they really really like, who would potentially be ready
Speaker 6: to come in and start. But they're not done with
Speaker 6: Donald yet. The free agency starts next week. Teams will
Speaker 6: have the opportunity to make offers to Sam Donald. The
Speaker 6: Minnesota Vikings you're going to use today in the next
Speaker 6: couple of days to try to lock in Donald themselves
Speaker 6: likely to be under the forty million of the what
Speaker 6: the franchise tag would be, but they're going to try
Speaker 6: to get a deal and have Donald come in and
Speaker 6: reboot for next year.
Speaker 1: We'll see where this all goes.
Speaker 6: The Kansas City Chiefs took the best guard off the
Speaker 6: free agent market, Tray Smith, the star guard who is
Speaker 6: a late round pick who has emerged as one of
Speaker 6: the best in the NFL. He got the non exclusive
Speaker 6: franchise tech twenty three point four million dollars. You're going
Speaker 6: to try to do a long term deal for him
Speaker 6: as well. Either way, the highest paid guard right now
Speaker 6: is twenty one million dollars. That's landon Dickerson if they
Speaker 6: do a long term deal, or even right now Tray Smith,
Speaker 6: the highest paid guard in NFL history. And then one
Speaker 6: of the quarterback situations we have been working to sort
Speaker 6: out over the last several days, something that is going
Speaker 6: to continue in Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 7: They have Russell Wilson, who's said to.
Speaker 6: Be a free agent, if Justin Fields who said to
Speaker 6: be a free agent, and it certainly seems is according
Speaker 6: to the words of several Steelers executives over the last
Speaker 6: couple of weeks, it seems like they're likely to go
Speaker 6: with one of those options for this year. As of
Speaker 6: right now, based on my understanding, Justin Fields is more
Speaker 6: likely to be the starting quarterback of the Steelers than
Speaker 6: Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: They do not have a deal.
Speaker 6: Fields does have a really good market going into free agency,
Speaker 6: but similar to Darnold, the Steelers have the opportunity over
Speaker 6: the next week or so to lock it in right
Speaker 6: now and get their starting quarterback for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Man, I never would have thought that we would be
Speaker 2: focusing so much on the Steelers quarterback position. It has
Speaker 2: been a wild ride ever since Ben Roethlisberger walked away
Speaker 2: from the team. We just can't figure a guy out
Speaker 2: for that. Ian Rappaford, thank you so much. Sign for
Speaker 2: us to go three. We're gonna start where Ian just
Speaker 2: slept up. Kyle, listening to a rap sheet, had to
Speaker 2: say about the Steelers and their quarterback room. What do
Speaker 2: you think Pittsburgh should do?
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers should pray, and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that mockingly, and I'm They're not like screwed. They're the
Speaker 1: Steelers are always gonna win. They'll probably make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I think you have to pray that Justin Field steps
Speaker 1: up and he becomes the player that we've been waiting
Speaker 1: for him beat for several years. I think that they're
Speaker 1: gonna stick with Fields. I don't think they're gonna stick
Speaker 1: with Russell. Steelers do their own thing. They have their
Speaker 1: own formula and their own way of doing business, and
Speaker 1: it always works out one way or another. Ownership is
Speaker 1: on a record a few weeks back about saying we'd
Speaker 1: like to keep one of the guys we have now.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's some hail Mary play for Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Sam Darnold. I think Justin Fields
Speaker 1: is the most likely candidate. Justin Field has never, never
Speaker 1: really won, and he's been on some bad teams. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing the Bears fans are doing, praying can
Speaker 1: this guy please figure it out? And this year can
Speaker 1: he hashtag turn the corner and become that guy that
Speaker 1: we only see in spurts. Whatever the Steelers will do,
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna win probably ten games next year,
Speaker 1: maybe nine on a down year. I just don't know
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be on the strength of their incredible
Speaker 1: quarterback play. I'm kind of joking when I say pray,
Speaker 1: but there's no other fix for this, There's no other
Speaker 1: let's get this guy. I think they're gonna stick with
Speaker 1: one of these guys. I think it's gonna be Fields,
Speaker 1: and I personally am rooting for I hope he turns
Speaker 1: the corner and we haven't seen it yet it's been years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with Kyle.
Speaker 5: I think they go with Fields, and last year too,
Speaker 5: he started the season four and two through five touchdown passes,
Speaker 5: rush for another five, only have had an interception, and
Speaker 5: then he gets replaced by Russell Wilson. So I think
Speaker 5: they go to the field drop. But two things are
Speaker 5: gonna happen if they do that, or two things need
Speaker 5: to happen. One, they go out and get another veteran
Speaker 5: and bring them in to compete.
Speaker 3: With Justin Fields. But if you do that, you're right
Speaker 3: back to.
Speaker 5: Square one where you were with Fields and Wilson a
Speaker 5: year ago, where it doesn't feel like Fields is a
Speaker 5: guy and he doesn't have that confidence because you bring
Speaker 5: in another quarterback. The second thing you do, and I
Speaker 5: think is most likely or what they should do, is
Speaker 5: you go out and draft a quarterback in the mid rounds.
Speaker 5: Right you say, hey, Justin Fields, here are the keys
Speaker 5: to the Ferrari this is your football team.
Speaker 3: Can you make that jump?
Speaker 5: What can you do with a full year of confidence,
Speaker 5: knowing that you're the guy your second year in the system.
Speaker 5: And then we go find a quarterback and they have
Speaker 5: the eighty third pick, one hundred and twenty second pick,
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty seven pick, go out and maybe
Speaker 5: get a Jaylen Milroe or a Quinnie or is a
Speaker 5: guy that you're thinking can develop behind Justin Fields. I
Speaker 5: think they'll also have to add another veteran, not a
Speaker 5: high level guy, but a guy that's a career backup,
Speaker 5: maybe in case the rookie is not ready or Fields
Speaker 5: isn't quite there yet.
Speaker 3: But I think that's the most likely scenario.
Speaker 1: Likely they with Mason Rudolph.
Speaker 5: Yeah, give the keys to Justin Fields. Let him go
Speaker 5: out there and prove that he can get it done.
Speaker 5: Get a mid level quarterback or a mid round quarterback
Speaker 5: in the draft, and then go from there.
Speaker 3: And either way, whatever they do, free.
Speaker 5: Agency starts nice week, so if you have your eyes
Speaker 5: on a quarterback, the market is going to go quick.
Speaker 3: So they better make that decision right now.
Speaker 4: Intrigued by Fields as the Steelers quarterback outside of Bradshaw
Speaker 4: and Roethlisberger, named me another one that played for Pittsburgh,
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh has always been about defense and running the football.
Speaker 4: So I think if you're Mike Tomlin and if you
Speaker 4: want to play classic Steeler ball, Fields might be your guy.
Speaker 1: A guy that can throw, he can run.
Speaker 4: Just make sure that I guess that he understands that
Speaker 4: you have a punter, that turnovers are bad, you can
Speaker 4: go out and play defense. You guys have been there
Speaker 4: when it's cold. When they start playing renegade, that place
Speaker 4: goes berserk. It's all about getting after the passer, stopping
Speaker 4: your offense. So I'm actually intrigued by fields.
Speaker 1: As the starting quarterback in Pittsburgh, I would just say,
Speaker 1: as usual, the Steelers are drafting in the twenties. It
Speaker 1: just feels like they're there a curse of like, we're
Speaker 1: never bad, we're never great, but we never have the
Speaker 1: five pick, we never have the two. Never, They're never
Speaker 1: going to have that type of season, so you cannot
Speaker 1: get whoever it is up at the top of the board.
Speaker 1: You're in that no man's like, you have to pay
Speaker 1: a price for always being good, and that's that. If
Speaker 1: you can't win the playoff game, which they can't, there's
Speaker 1: no fix coming. It's the project quarterback, it's the bridge quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's they've drafted Roethlisberger way up there. Way. They're never
Speaker 1: that high anymore. They're at the twenty one this so
Speaker 1: you can't get a guy there, and I don't think
Speaker 1: they will.
Speaker 2: Speaking democrats to your point though, a boy the Steelers like,
Speaker 2: they run the ball, they have great defense. I think
Speaker 2: Nagie Harris is a free agent and then Jalen Warren
Speaker 2: is that going to be the guy that you hang
Speaker 2: your hat on. I also think they need to redefine
Speaker 2: what their run game looks like. If that is a
Speaker 2: Najie har Is, how long that deal is or do
Speaker 2: you let him walk and then you have to dip
Speaker 2: into the draft pool for that as well, or he
Speaker 2: hit the free agent pool, which was very nice for
Speaker 2: the running backs last summer. Last week at the NFL
Speaker 2: Scating Combines, this is the second down three now. Browns
Speaker 2: general manager Andrew Berry did not waiver on his stance
Speaker 2: that the Browns have no interest at all in trading
Speaker 2: all pro pass rusher Miles Garrett Kyle, despite Miles Garrett
Speaker 2: putting the statement out himself not long ago, saying I
Speaker 2: would like out of Cleveland this. I called it awkward
Speaker 2: the other day, and I think Peter correct me. He's like,
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel awkward to me. I'm still going to
Speaker 2: hang my hat on awkward.
Speaker 1: I wonder why Peter said that here. We'll ask him
Speaker 1: when he's back. I don't think Miles Garrett's playing for
Speaker 1: the Browns. I don't really I don't not on his end,
Speaker 1: you know. I'm sure that they're like, he's our best player,
Speaker 1: he's maybe the top three player in the league. We're
Speaker 1: not letting him go. I think he has strong convictions.
Speaker 1: I think he's seen a lot of things. I think
Speaker 1: he wants out. I just want to address one thing.
Speaker 1: I was reading a lot about Miles Garrett last night,
Speaker 1: and one of the things that comes up is this
Speaker 1: idea of teams that could potentially be suitors if the
Speaker 1: Browns were to agree to part with them. And there's
Speaker 1: this pushback about, like, you know, Miles Garrett is going
Speaker 1: to be so expensive, just draft an edge rusher, Like
Speaker 1: have you ever seen Miles Garrett play football? Like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? You can bring up all the
Speaker 1: guys in this year's draft, all the edge rushers in
Speaker 1: last year's draft, and next year's draft. None of them
Speaker 1: are Miles Garrett. These are great players right here, they're
Speaker 1: not Miles Garrett's. And even if you were to draft room,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be Miles Garrett. He is put it
Speaker 1: this way. You know how good you have to be
Speaker 1: to win a game on national television, and then the
Speaker 1: postgame reporter goes to you and says, so, Miles, how
Speaker 1: do you see the best players on defense in the
Speaker 1: league right now? And to say this, I'm number one
Speaker 1: and no, that's one as you been to one edge
Speaker 1: one to defend the play of the year. I'm the guy.
Speaker 1: So that runs to me. With due respect to the
Speaker 1: guys coming out or other free agents, nobody's last year
Speaker 1: TJ Watt, wasn't that guy? That guy is that guy?
Speaker 1: I know Cleveland wants to hold onto him. I think
Speaker 1: he's determined to leave. Don't think you can get anything
Speaker 1: else other than him if you move for it. Pete
Speaker 1: said it wasn't awkward, Peter.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I said, wow, Peter, this seems awkward. We're
Speaker 2: a player to put out a statement and then for
Speaker 2: his general manager and head coach to openly is just say, like, no,
Speaker 2: that guy's playing for us next year. I deem it awkward.
Speaker 2: Peter said it wasn't because he's just he was convinced
Speaker 2: that the team was steadfast and that they will work
Speaker 2: something out, and that you how you couldn't let Miles
Speaker 2: Garrett walk out the door?
Speaker 1: Makes perfect sense.
Speaker 4: I get both sides now, because if you're Cleveland, you
Speaker 4: never let him go. He's one of the best players
Speaker 4: we've ever seen. I mean, he's almost a guarantee, a
Speaker 4: lock for double digit sacks the year. He cannot be
Speaker 4: blocked with one or two. He is just that guy.
Speaker 4: So I understand the other side of him, and I
Speaker 4: was shocked about Joe Thomas and other players that were
Speaker 4: in Cleveland that have lost for so long. You need to,
Speaker 4: you know, try to get out of there if you
Speaker 4: want to win. You're getting towards the end of your career.
Speaker 4: So I get for Miles Garrett's coming from. I want
Speaker 4: to go someplace where I can win, where this stuff
Speaker 4: where we see doesn't get buried in the highlights, where
Speaker 4: it actually gets put to the forefront. He is, like
Speaker 4: I said, the pre eminent player in the National Football
Speaker 4: League along defensive lineman. So saw him in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: He happened to be in the same suite I was
Speaker 4: in for a Lakers game. Just walked in and it's
Speaker 4: so funny. His shoulders couldn't fit through the door, but
Speaker 4: his waist was like a thirty two. It's like if
Speaker 4: you were cut like a superhero.
Speaker 5: I was in Cleveland his rooking the year when we
Speaker 5: drafted him. Yeah, he is one of the best physical specimens
Speaker 5: I've ever been around in my entire life, and he's
Speaker 5: so athletic. But this is the most intriguing offseason story
Speaker 5: for me. It really is, because it's completely two different
Speaker 5: sides of the spectrum.
Speaker 3: You have Miles Garrett.
Speaker 5: On February third, who says to the world, I want
Speaker 5: to be traded. Then he goes on radio row during
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl week doubles down, I want to be traded.
Speaker 3: I want to be traded.
Speaker 5: Fast forward to the combine and you have Andrew Berry,
Speaker 5: the general manager, come out and say we're not trading him.
Speaker 3: He's not going anywhere.
Speaker 5: And then you have Kevin Stefanski reiterate that and say,
Speaker 5: you know he's going to be here. He's a part
Speaker 5: of our president, he's a part of our future. He's
Speaker 5: going to be on the team this year, next year,
Speaker 5: in the year after that. Two completely opposite sides. And
Speaker 5: the thing that worries me is that Miles Garrett didn't
Speaker 5: come out and say I want more money, I want
Speaker 5: X amount of dolls I want, I want I want
Speaker 5: to be traded to a team that's going to win
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl. And if you do trade Miles Garrett,
Speaker 5: I believe you're starting your rebuild. If you're the Browns
Speaker 5: three and fourteen a year ago, if you let your
Speaker 5: best player walk away trying to get multiple first round
Speaker 5: picks for him, you are basically saying.
Speaker 1: What you get for him? Yeah, that's the question.
Speaker 5: You can get anything you want right now in the fall.
Speaker 5: You're committing to a rebuild saying that we know we're
Speaker 5: not going to get there because they're not competitors right now.
Speaker 3: They really aren't. This is a huge offseason for the Browns.
Speaker 5: They have the number two overall pick they have outside
Speaker 5: of the Saints. They have the worst salary cap situation
Speaker 5: in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Andrew Berry is.
Speaker 5: Gonna have to jump a lot of hurdles when it
Speaker 5: comes to free agency. It's just it's a very difficult situation.
Speaker 5: I just don't know how they can keep Miles Garrett
Speaker 5: happy and figure out a way to contend.
Speaker 1: Nowhere to go, you nail. If there's money problems, you
Speaker 1: can fix them. We'll figure it out. Get someone to
Speaker 1: adjust it. Fine. He said that this past season was
Speaker 1: worse than ZH sixteen for you like, it's not about money.
Speaker 1: It's like, I want out of here. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: going to work there and there's this whole Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: thing that you've gone through. Not to mention the losing,
Speaker 1: now Watson's hurt. What is this team? I'm deep in
Speaker 1: my career. I've never won squat. I want to win something.
Speaker 1: I want to be one of the greats. I want
Speaker 1: to be Reggie White running around with the Packers holding
Speaker 1: up the Lombardy. It's I don't think it's money, it's
Speaker 1: I don't want to play here anymore, don't live here anymore.
Speaker 2: In the statement, it was I want to go from
Speaker 2: Cleveland to Canton. And I think what he's implying is that, like,
Speaker 2: if I stay here, you are messing with my goals
Speaker 2: and my career goals in is like Hall of Fame pursuit.
Speaker 3: You know, that's a.
Speaker 2: Very specific direction that he wants to do. I'm a
Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist. I think that ownership GM coach, they are
Speaker 2: going to say he is not going anywhere, to drive
Speaker 2: up the price and to see what they would get
Speaker 2: four miles Garrett, because I think somebody would want it badly.
Speaker 1: And I don't care what you have. He's better. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would trade anything to get Garrett. Absolutely, yes. Anytime
Speaker 1: we let on self think about landing spots, every time
Speaker 1: you're like, oh god, no, he's gonna go to Philly.
Speaker 1: Oh it's terrifying. It's almost like we can't have that happen.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, David Stern, like, no, find trades
Speaker 1: and wait we can ye fair. I mean this is
Speaker 1: like to the Lakers, like we can't have Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: go in to Philadelphia. Ken't Miles Grett going anywhere?
Speaker 2: The one move for Miles Garrett with everything that that
Speaker 2: team would have to give up, would be parallel to
Speaker 2: the Rams and how they did all those things with
Speaker 2: the picks a couple of years ago in order to win.
Speaker 1: I hope it's out of the West.
Speaker 5: To Jamie's point, though, it gets to the situation of
Speaker 5: do we keep Miles Garrett he's not happy and we
Speaker 5: know he doesn't want to be here, or do we
Speaker 5: pull the trigger on a trade and try to figure
Speaker 5: out the situation now, Because like I said, I just
Speaker 5: and not a lot of fond memories in Cleveland, but
Speaker 5: I love the fans, I love the city. You know
Speaker 5: they treated me well. I want to see them be successful.
Speaker 5: I want to see him whin. I think Miles Garrett
Speaker 5: has to be a part of that picture.
Speaker 4: But if he doesn't want to be there, I bet
Speaker 4: they don't blame to the point because eventually he's going
Speaker 4: to have to come back and play. Yeah, he is,
Speaker 4: because he's on a Hall of Fame type career and
Speaker 4: you've got to play keep those.
Speaker 1: Their logic in trading, taking the huge king's ransom of
Speaker 1: picks and rebuilding your team, which you need to do
Speaker 1: otherwise you keep a fantastic defensive end. I get he's
Speaker 1: a great player, but you can spend that stuff and
Speaker 1: do real building blocks and the quarterback and all.
Speaker 3: That, and that's a huge jumpstart to the rebuillains.
Speaker 2: So and they've had him, and they even having him,
Speaker 2: they haven't won the way he has wanted to, or frankly,
Speaker 2: the way the organization probably wants to with him in
Speaker 2: the building. So he's great, but they got to do something,
Speaker 2: and I'm still calling it awkward. Third down, here's a
Speaker 2: look at Lancier. I will not take any other word
Speaker 2: to Marco. Here's a look at Lancer lines. Mock Draft
Speaker 2: two point zero. We're already onto the second version in
Speaker 2: mock drafting season. He has the Browns taking Colorado's Heisman
Speaker 2: Trophy winner Travis Hunter after the Titan selects Abdul Carter
Speaker 2: number one overall. Let's do this ourselves. Who should the
Speaker 2: Browns take with the second overall pick. We'll start with
Speaker 2: the former brown himself, Body Kessler.
Speaker 5: Obviously, the Browns need a quarterback, and it's pretty consistent.
Speaker 5: And obviously, I know there's some different, you know, mock
Speaker 5: drafts out there, but a lot of people think they're
Speaker 5: going to take a quarterback at number two. I'll say this,
Speaker 5: if you're not one hundred percent sure, if you're not
Speaker 5: one hundred and ten percent sure that the quarterback you're
Speaker 5: taking is the future of your franchise for at minimum
Speaker 5: the next five to seven years, do not make that pick.
Speaker 5: You Just because a team needs a quarterback doesn't mean
Speaker 5: you have to take a quarterback. And I feel like
Speaker 5: that happens a lot in drafts to where teams feel like, well,
Speaker 5: this is the top guy and we need a quarterback,
Speaker 5: let me take him, or feel like, you know, this
Speaker 5: is the next best quarterback available and we need a quarterback.
Speaker 5: So let's pick a quarterback. You don't have to do that.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of very talented players at the top
Speaker 5: of this draft board, right and I'm fine with either
Speaker 5: one with the brounds. If they take Abdul Carter and
Speaker 5: he's still there or Travis Hunter and he's still there,
Speaker 5: I'm completely fine with those two picks. All I'm going
Speaker 5: to say is if you're not fully sold on the quarterback,
Speaker 5: you don't have to take them. Because if the Browns
Speaker 5: take the wrong guy at quarterback, they are going to
Speaker 5: set their franchise back.
Speaker 3: For multiple years. They can't miss again on the quarterback.
Speaker 5: And that's why I say for Andrew Berry, this is
Speaker 5: his most important offseason as the general manager for the Browns.
Speaker 4: We think just thinking what else is in the room,
Speaker 4: because I'm thinking how to build a football team and
Speaker 4: I have to go out there and take snaps in September.
Speaker 4: So what else am I going to trot out there?
Speaker 4: If I don't take a quarterback high I'm asking, like,
Speaker 4: who's in the right room, Like we need someone.
Speaker 2: To take some money in free agency, get a.
Speaker 4: Guy, or I could take a young guy that I
Speaker 4: like or kind of like in cam Ord and say,
Speaker 4: let's see, now, I get you. It's it's a high
Speaker 4: pick and it's there's risk involved. But what else am
Speaker 4: I going to put on the field. I need someone
Speaker 4: to take back. Man, there's a good chance that the
Speaker 4: guy may actually pan out.
Speaker 1: He was a really good college player.
Speaker 4: Of all the quarterbacks in the draft, I think I
Speaker 4: like him the best. I think he is game ready
Speaker 4: right now. So I wouldn't hesitate if I'm Cleaveland to
Speaker 4: take a quarterback, especially if I needed one.
Speaker 1: And you know, Cody's point is, I get it, but
Speaker 1: don't take the wrong quarterback just for the sake of
Speaker 1: taking a quarterback you knew is you find a Jamis
Speaker 1: type and you put them out there and you try
Speaker 1: your best, and maybe you go six and eleven in
Speaker 1: the quarterback next year? What kills me? What kills me
Speaker 1: if a Browns fan is like, of course, we have
Speaker 1: the second overall pick in the non quarterback draft. We
Speaker 1: couldn't taken Jays Daniels last year. We couldn't. We could
Speaker 1: have taken Drake May. They were coming out of our
Speaker 1: ears last year, right outside the top anybody. But this
Speaker 1: is what my Garrett's talking about.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you're going to keep waiting to rebuild, and
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm putting in Hall of Fame numbers and
Speaker 4: we keep losing. You know, if you're going to keep
Speaker 4: doing this, I'm out. So it makes sense, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they should sign a quarterback and free
Speaker 2: agency and take the best athlete at that spot. And
Speaker 2: even if you trade back a couple and get another
Speaker 2: first round pick or another second round pick, build your team.
Speaker 2: It's not just about one guy. And again we've seen
Speaker 2: that with Miles Garrett. One guy can't win you football games.
Speaker 2: Quarterback can't, if an edge rusher can't. With Miles Garrett,
Speaker 2: you got to build the entire team best athlete on
Speaker 2: the board.
Speaker 1: I actually don't hate Donald in Cleveland. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: And when you talk about free agency, I like the
Speaker 1: pairing there. I feel like Stefanski and O'Connell have a
Speaker 1: lot in common, and you know, they don't have the
Speaker 1: weapons that the Vikings do and they don't play in
Speaker 1: the dome. It's not ideal, but I don't hate Donald
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. And then how much for Donald, I mean
Speaker 1: probably a lot. It's what we keep hearing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love watching prospects have their glow up over
Speaker 2: Combine weekend for those that didn't watch them in college.
Speaker 2: When their drafts, draft stock rise is. You get to
Speaker 2: know these guys, make a name for themselves. You fall
Speaker 2: in love with them before they get picked. That's how
Speaker 2: we feel about our next Yes, he is the first
Speaker 2: prospect on GMTB. Then we get to interview this offseason
Speaker 2: Arkansas at Dresser Landon Jackson. What's all awesome?
Speaker 1: Landon?
Speaker 3: Great to see you.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 7: I'm doing good?
Speaker 8: You know, I really excited about my performances past week.
Speaker 8: Just continue and get to work and being excited for
Speaker 8: the draft.
Speaker 2: I bet let's talk about that weekend that you had
Speaker 2: because you jumped through the roof and indy forty point
Speaker 2: five inch vertical jump.
Speaker 3: Were you blown.
Speaker 2: Away by that or was that the number that you
Speaker 2: had seen time and time again and you're just like, oh,
Speaker 2: same old thing.
Speaker 7: Not really blown away.
Speaker 8: I mean, I'll set in my goal at like thirty eight,
Speaker 8: thirty nine. Yeah, forty was real impressive.
Speaker 1: It's incredibly impressive. And I've just always such a goober
Speaker 1: for these things. When I see you guys who can
Speaker 1: jump that high at the Combine, I immediately think about
Speaker 1: you in the basketball court. Are you just a nasty
Speaker 1: dunker in Landin? You must be uh somewhat.
Speaker 8: You know my dad my dad's seven foot, my mom's
Speaker 8: six foot. They both played college sports. My dad was
Speaker 8: a college basketball player. So I guess I kind of
Speaker 8: get that from them.
Speaker 1: I like it. Cody, what do you got?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I just want to know from someone that
Speaker 5: was at the Combine back in twenty sixteen, what was
Speaker 5: your biggest takeaway from the combined week, both on and
Speaker 5: off the field?
Speaker 3: How was it for you?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's real time consuming.
Speaker 8: You know, you got to you got to make sure
Speaker 8: you're getting your sleep still, you know, doing it the
Speaker 8: right way because if you're not, I mean you could
Speaker 8: really affect your performance on the field because I mean
Speaker 8: you're not getting a whole lot of sleep.
Speaker 7: So that the times you get the opportunity, you got
Speaker 7: to use it.
Speaker 8: You know, make sure you're putting the right stuff in
Speaker 8: your body because a lot of people don't realize you're
Speaker 8: at the combine four days before your performance, so I mean,
Speaker 8: you really got to take care of your body for
Speaker 8: those four days.
Speaker 7: It's a whole lecture.
Speaker 8: We could train and you could take advantage of if
Speaker 8: you have your trainer up there too, So that's something
Speaker 8: I did those four days before the performance.
Speaker 5: Do they still have you doing interviews with teams until
Speaker 5: midnight and then having you wake up at four am
Speaker 5: the next morning?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 8: The cut off Tom was at like I think eleven
Speaker 8: thirty every night, and then we had to buy out
Speaker 8: five thirty six for medicals and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was rough.
Speaker 4: I remember those interviews and they would ask like, what's
Speaker 4: the best thing you do on the field. So I'll
Speaker 4: ask you, one defensive guy to another, what's the best
Speaker 4: thing you do on a football field?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I say my motor kind of takes over when
Speaker 8: I'm on the field. I really use a motor. I'm
Speaker 8: flying around, I'm on every place. So that's something you
Speaker 8: can't teach. And that's probably the biggest thing I kind
Speaker 8: of let these NFL coaches and scouts know.
Speaker 1: You know, when Miles Garrett came out years back, he
Speaker 1: was the number one overall pick and he was asked like,
Speaker 1: is there a quarterback you're looking forward to sacking in
Speaker 1: your career? You said, Ben Roethlisberg. It's just a really
Speaker 1: cool answer. As a Brown, that's the way that goes
Speaker 1: when you look at these quarterbacks and these guys you
Speaker 1: watched up grew up watching. Is there one you're like, Wow,
Speaker 1: that would be such an honor to to be able
Speaker 1: to sack them on Sundays?
Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes because
Speaker 8: he's from from Texas, so get him, and then Lamar
Speaker 8: Jackson be somebody that's I mean, it'd be really impressive
Speaker 8: to get the optinuity to sack him, no doubt.
Speaker 5: I'm curious too, going back to the combine, I remember
Speaker 5: getting some of those crazy questions. Do you remember what
Speaker 5: that crazy question was for you? Did you not get
Speaker 5: any of them?
Speaker 8: When?
Speaker 7: Yeah, really didn't. I was prepared for I mean, are
Speaker 7: you an apple er and orange?
Speaker 8: All different types of questions, but yeah, I didn't end
Speaker 8: up getting any.
Speaker 1: Okay, did you say.
Speaker 2: Your dad was seven feet tall?
Speaker 1: Is wow?
Speaker 2: That's that's a remarkable sized human and your mom is
Speaker 2: a six footer? That like, what tell us about the
Speaker 2: rest of your family? Do you have anyone sub six feet?
Speaker 8: No, not at all. I mean both brothers. Both of
Speaker 8: my brothers are my younger brother. He's at the University
Speaker 8: of Texas now plays the man and he's taller than me,
Speaker 8: so about six seven, and then I have an older
Speaker 8: brother who's about six five, so I mean, pretty impressive
Speaker 8: height in the family.
Speaker 1: That's really cool.
Speaker 2: We love the Jackson family and the fact that you
Speaker 2: guys are all over the football field.
Speaker 1: Landon.
Speaker 2: You stood out to me last week and watching your interviews.
Speaker 2: You have alopecia, and you're very open about this. My
Speaker 2: five and a half year old daughter has alopecia, and
Speaker 2: I just think it's incredible when somebody like you, who
Speaker 2: has the stature that you do and the presence that
Speaker 2: you do, you are very open about this diagnosis and
Speaker 2: the fact that you know people are aware of that
Speaker 2: about you and you just lead with it. When did
Speaker 2: you adopt this as a lifestyle that you can just
Speaker 2: openly say this is what I have, this is what
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with, And what's the message that you hope
Speaker 2: to deliver to young people?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Just really knowing how tough it was. I mean, really
Speaker 8: that age Rain is about five to ten. Going through that,
Speaker 8: it was really tough for me, you know, so my
Speaker 8: parents kind of let it be known at an early age.
Speaker 8: I mean, use it as a blessing and get back
Speaker 8: to people like yourself and make it easier for the
Speaker 8: younger and give them somebody to kind of look up
Speaker 8: to inspire.
Speaker 7: And yeah, so that's the biggest thing I've been trying
Speaker 7: to do.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 7: Every time I meet a.
Speaker 8: Kid with alopecia or get the opportunity to just i
Speaker 8: mean a mom reaches out or something, I always try
Speaker 8: getting on the phone having a conversation really let them
Speaker 8: know that it does get easier really to think of
Speaker 8: it as a blessing.
Speaker 7: You know, you're different than.
Speaker 8: You're unique in your own way, and so I really
Speaker 8: just try doing that for the kids, you know.
Speaker 7: I mean I'll sign cleats, give gloves. I mean I've.
Speaker 8: Donated to some of their I guess like sports organizations,
Speaker 8: pee wee football stuff like that. Yeah, it's really good
Speaker 8: to use this opportunity to kind of i mean show
Speaker 8: the world about it too, because I mean it's pretty common,
Speaker 8: but a lot of people don't really know about it,
Speaker 8: so yeah, kind of just let it be known.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Landon, I also told her I showed her
Speaker 2: your picture and I was like, this man could jump
Speaker 2: over you. And that's exactly that's like just to scale
Speaker 2: like how talented he is and he has Lpcia's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: It's very cool. It's very cool. There's some other pictures
Speaker 1: you could show her too, Jamie, and that includes this
Speaker 1: man dressing up as a cowboy and a game show host.
Speaker 1: What am I saying? Every October? You and your wife
Speaker 1: go for it big on Halloween. There's a snake in
Speaker 1: my boot? Which is your favorite one? In which which
Speaker 1: one landed? Did you feel the most at home? And
Speaker 1: if we show so some of them?
Speaker 8: Man, I actually don't have my favorite one. I don't
Speaker 8: think because I think I showed these at the combine.
Speaker 8: My favorite one I was. It was our junior year
Speaker 8: of high school and I was mister Clean and so yeah,
Speaker 8: this one was pretty good as well. But now mister
Speaker 8: Clean was by far my favorite.
Speaker 1: You have the big ear ring and like the white
Speaker 1: T shirt and the shine.
Speaker 5: I know it's only March, but do we have the
Speaker 5: ideas already for what Halloween's going to look like this year?
Speaker 8: No, we're trying to really trying to, I guess prepare
Speaker 8: that especially first team in the league, so trying to
Speaker 8: make it big.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're got an NFL player, Now you gotta go,
Speaker 5: you gotta go.
Speaker 7: Bi big Man.
Speaker 4: Fifty one days out. I know this process is crazy.
Speaker 4: What combines over so that pressure is off. So from
Speaker 4: here on out, how you handling the pressure?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 8: Really just staying focused, keeping the main thing the main thing,
Speaker 8: and trying to go as hot.
Speaker 7: As I can.
Speaker 8: You know, be a a blessing for whatever team drafts
Speaker 8: me and make it an media impact wherever I go.
Speaker 2: Landon, You're awesome. We love getting to know you today.
Speaker 2: And like we always say, we have a lot of
Speaker 2: prospects on in the next two months, and you're first
Speaker 2: on the board now always trivia answer to follow first
Speaker 2: prospect of twenty twenty five for Uslanta Jackson, everybody out
Speaker 2: of Arkansas awesome to get to know you, man.
Speaker 7: Thank you for having me. It was a great opportunity.
Speaker 2: You're my favorite de people, land and everybody can jump
Speaker 2: through the roof forty point five.
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 7: I love this game.
Speaker 2: I love I love the glasses that you wear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't make fun of me.
Speaker 4: See across a certain age, you got to start wearing
Speaker 4: the glass.
Speaker 1: Yeah sorreal you think so?
Speaker 4: Everybody says that I look like Uncle Phil from the
Speaker 4: Fresh Print, So they said, there you go.
Speaker 1: Are we just gonna go.
Speaker 4: This is called two lies in the truth, right, So
Speaker 4: there's gonna be two lies and one truth on this thing.
Speaker 1: So let's get this guy here. There's a lot to me,
Speaker 1: So here we go.
Speaker 4: I am the third cousin of a former NBA player
Speaker 4: named Rod Strickland. So that's number one, okay, b During
Speaker 4: my rookie season, Rams quarterback Chris Miller, friend of mine,
Speaker 4: filled my car with popcorn at training camp.
Speaker 1: And then see the first thing.
Speaker 4: I bought with my NFL siding bonus is a crossbow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I just want to shout out some
Speaker 1: love to Rod Strickland, a fantastic point guard for the
Speaker 1: Portland Trailblazers for a long time Jordan era, great player, stoneface,
Speaker 1: though I don't see that in you. I don't. I
Speaker 1: think this one is a lie. I'm gonna say, guys,
Speaker 1: the one of these that is actually real is I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with the popcorn at training camp, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say be is real, and the other two or nonsense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna agree with Kyle on this one because
Speaker 5: being in the NFL, they always like to mess with
Speaker 5: the rookie. So I'm gonna go with me as well.
Speaker 5: I think they put popcorn a popcorn in your car.
Speaker 2: Well, I would love to see a photo of a
Speaker 2: rookies pop car filled with popcorn. I also want to
Speaker 2: see a photo of you holding a crossbow.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to go with see.
Speaker 2: I hope that's the truth.
Speaker 4: And you would be right. Yeah, So I didn't know this.
Speaker 4: I got like thirty grand to sign and that was
Speaker 4: like the highest signing moments of any undrafted rookie free agent.
Speaker 1: So I was so happy he had money in the bank.
Speaker 4: First thing we did, we went to Big five and
Speaker 4: bought across Both. It was great, loved it, Big bing
Speaker 4: Yah Chabacca. And then it was raining in Seattle, so
Speaker 4: we couldn't go outside, so we shot the.
Speaker 1: Thing in the house nice in the fire party.
Speaker 4: Why, of all things across both because I've always wanted one.
Speaker 4: I've always wanted a cross because they're cool, Aren't they cool?
Speaker 2: Aren't very He looked at you over the bus.
Speaker 1: They're cool.
Speaker 5: God's a great story to tell you.
Speaker 4: To the fireplace in Seattle. It's great, all right, A
Speaker 4: lot of I was a drummer and a rock band
Speaker 4: called ASP asked with a thank you very much, I
Speaker 4: had a pet chinchilla in college named Herschel, herschel Walker,
Speaker 4: friend of mine. Uh My first car was a green
Speaker 4: Dodge and with the license plates that read far out awesome.
Speaker 1: Where's a lie? Listen, I know where's the truth or
Speaker 1: where's the truth? Because I know the GMFB production staff
Speaker 1: pretty well. They're getting pretty cute with this. I think
Speaker 1: this is sense. I hope it's true. Does this look
Speaker 1: like a drummer? I think too much presence to be
Speaker 1: behind the kit. I think you're up front, are playing guitar.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to say you had a chinchilla named Herschel.
Speaker 1: That's that's my that's my pick. And you're laughing. Iritis
Speaker 1: means I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: I agree with see, I thought that was no joke obvious.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go with a.
Speaker 5: I'm going to say that you were in drummery Bine
Speaker 5: Crossbows and you're a cool guy.
Speaker 2: Well, and he's humming all the time, very musical to
Speaker 2: our car.
Speaker 7: I too, will go with A and A.
Speaker 4: This is definitely a lie. Okay, this this don't fit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you need a charger. Never had a chinchilla? Yes, old ass,
Speaker 4: and we called it. Asked you guys remember Raiders of
Speaker 4: the Lost Artists when he falls into the pit with
Speaker 4: all the snakes. They're asked. So we were like, we
Speaker 4: need a rock band, we need a name that people
Speaker 4: like and it's scary.
Speaker 1: Let's go with Aspake. I thought, there coras and stuff.
Speaker 1: It was asps see down there?
Speaker 5: How many time, old man, how many times have you
Speaker 5: had to say with a pen tons?
Speaker 4: Imagine this in the eighth grade? And our band is
Speaker 4: asp yeah child playing well yes. And the rehearsals were
Speaker 4: always at my house.
Speaker 1: Because who covers our originals covers covering a lot of
Speaker 1: scorpions playing.
Speaker 4: We did a lot of scorpions and a lot of
Speaker 4: the romantics.
Speaker 1: This is awesome, good stuff.
Speaker 4: In the garage because it was yeah, that was my song.
Speaker 1: That was me.
Speaker 4: Yeah I did, I say as a drummer, there you go. Awesome,
Speaker 4: All right, move on to the last one. Here we go.
Speaker 4: Our first job was working concessions for Bill Graham Productions
Speaker 4: does a lot of concerts. I was a part of
Speaker 4: the cast the Longest Yard had to drop out because
Speaker 4: of a knee injury.
Speaker 1: It still hurts.
Speaker 4: I beat Jerome Bettis bowling during my rookie season.
Speaker 1: During a team outing, where's the truth? All right? I
Speaker 1: had to set the table with this. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure on this one because this crossbow buying rock
Speaker 1: drummer is pretty cool, like that's yeah, you're an ass
Speaker 1: when you got a bow and the Shubacca like this
Speaker 1: is so whatever. This has to be awesome beating bowling,
Speaker 1: and the bus is a really good bowler. We know that.
Speaker 1: I think actually just the Sandler longest shared. I guess
Speaker 1: then for some reason, I think it's a and I'm
Speaker 1: not going to tell you why, but I think it's
Speaker 1: a you worked at concessions for like stadium events.
Speaker 5: I am going back to what happened with my two
Speaker 5: lies in the Truth about Thieus seven, So I think
Speaker 5: b is out that that's similar to what they did
Speaker 5: with me.
Speaker 3: I am going to agree with Colin this one. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go with A. I bet it is as well.
Speaker 2: I think you were cast in a movie, because no
Speaker 2: matter what movie it is.
Speaker 3: That's a cool sentence.
Speaker 2: I was cast in a movie. And he did say
Speaker 2: the knee injury still hurt, So if you were listening,
Speaker 2: then maybe it's bise.
Speaker 1: I did get asked. I was not cash.
Speaker 4: I said no, because I had too much of a
Speaker 4: gut and I felt bad about the uniform, so that
Speaker 4: that's not true. I did not beat Jerome Bettis bowler. Yeah,
Speaker 4: eas a three hundred bowler. It's just not going to happen.
Speaker 4: So I did work for Bill Graham Productions.
Speaker 1: At the selling food.
Speaker 4: It was fun. So I did a lot of concerts,
Speaker 4: Simple Minds. There was a heavy metal toor that came
Speaker 4: through a lot of rap concerts, so I had to
Speaker 4: sell the food inside the stadium.
Speaker 1: It was fun.
Speaker 4: And one time at the Berkeley Greek Theater it was
Speaker 4: Depeche Mode playing and they were short of bodyguard, so
Speaker 4: they're getting mobbed and their manager goes, hey, you big dude,
Speaker 4: get in front and get us out of here. So
Speaker 4: we had to like usher them out the door and
Speaker 4: like for that three hours we're waiting for the bus
Speaker 4: to show up. We became pretty cool friends. Yeah, good music,
Speaker 4: hash Mode, they were personal Jesus, Yes, I loved it.
Speaker 4: I was trying to explain, like American football, Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1: What concessions were you selling.
Speaker 4: Let's see for it varied for different events, so we
Speaker 4: had like The Grateful Dead. It was a lot of snacks,
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff that you can get that right away,
Speaker 4: you can eat right away. Other stuff like dogs, you know, pretzels,
Speaker 4: everything you buy a concert, whether any left.
Speaker 1: For the customers? Are you trying to say? Look at you?
Speaker 4: Look at too, and you walk away?
Speaker 1: Come on, I might drive.
Speaker 4: Oh the best one?
Speaker 1: That cool? I don't know what he was reading. Cool,
Speaker 1: Yes he was, he was.
Speaker 2: He was a nice guy drumming crossbow.
Speaker 1: Using drummer to the left handed. This guy's amazing.
Speaker 2: Everyone's doing this as we talk about drumming. And he
Speaker 2: demark was like, no, cross it all all this stuff
Speaker 2: with the right that's the last thing on the list.
Speaker 2: Two lives of the truth. That's fantastic with the.
Speaker 1: Ring on, Like, that's that's the you got it all going?
Speaker 3: Do you still have the crossbow and the.
Speaker 1: Bows still in Seattle?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a lensils. Okay, it never made it out
Speaker 1: of that house.
Speaker 2: Did you lose your safety deposit on that place? No,
Speaker 2: that's good. Good look at him, Standy's not a little
Speaker 2: PARTI