1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: and speaker. 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 3: And this is Sarah Hartunger. I'm a mother of three, 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 3: a practicing physician and blogger. On the side, we are 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: two working parents who love our careers and our families. 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: out long term career goals. We want you to get 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: the most out of life. 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura. This 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: is episode three hundred two, airing in mid May of 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. We're going to be talking all things 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: summer planning. I'm sure many people who listen to this 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: program have already been planning their summer. Have probably been 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: planning their summers since January or whenever your local camp 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: schedules are released, and whenever you needed to put in 19 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: for your PTO or whatever else you had to do 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: to plan your summer. But there may still be some 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: spaces on the margin for figuring things out, or maybe 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: you haven't gotten to that yet. And we also want 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: to talk about our plans too. So Sarah, you don't 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: really have a summer though as a summer per se 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: in Florence, we. 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: Don't have summer weather, but we certainly have summer vibes. 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: I mean, as much as I don't look forward to 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: the weather that's already kind of starting up here with 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: the thunderstorms and the humidity, I still really like the 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: routine change and the feel, you know, everything gets a 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: little more casual. And interestingly things are less crowded down 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 3: here because the tourists are not coming, and in fact, 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: many of the natives try to leave. 34 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: Yes, it's like January up north. No one wants to 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: be there, right, So yeah, I like this vibe of summer. 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, it's hold over from when 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: you're a kid and it's you're out of school and 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 1: you're doing different things. I mean, I love the idea 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: of camps that kids get to try different activities and 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: a different environment, though as apparent, the mental load of 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: some of that is a wee bit intense. One camp 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: in particular was giving me all sorts of fits this year, 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: And to be clear, it's an overnight camp, so obviously 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: there's going to be more details involved in that than others. 45 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: But we went back and forth. This was for Sam, 46 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: he had to test into it, and then there's a 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: question of whether he had taken the right prerequisites, and 48 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: so we were going back and forth with the camp 49 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: and the school about what algebra topics he had covered 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: and whether we could a test that he had learned them. 51 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: And then going through the camp medical forms that you know, 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: it needed a physician's signature on it for their particular form, 53 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: and just kept it, kept going on all the things 54 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: that needed to be done. But you know, it's eventually 55 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: you make it through. 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: I always wonder because a lot of the camps used 57 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: similar software, and a lot of them use a service 58 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: called Campanion. But the campanions don't talk to each other. 59 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: So you can fill out all of your details on 60 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 3: camp a's campanion site and it'll look exactly the same, 61 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: but at least in my experience, camp Be's will be 62 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: completely blank. 63 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, come. 64 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: On, Campanion, shouldn't you at the whole point be like 65 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: I can send that, you can share it. 66 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it should be like your electronic medical record. 67 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: If many days don't talk to each other either, but yeah, 68 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: some of them do and hopefully maybe moving forward, more 69 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: of the camp apps will talk. 70 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I was most annoyed by the fact 71 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: that I had to fill out the vaccine record in 72 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: this drop down menu, Like you kept having to say, 73 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: what October of twenty ten, you know, back when he 74 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: got something for Eda's twelve months check up. I'm like, huh, 75 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: you remember this? 76 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: But I had to do the same thing, and I 77 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: actually was like, let me see if I can like 78 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: remember what these days were like and where I was in, 79 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: which doctors are like. I honestly, I was like, oh, 80 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: this is very boring, so let me take a trip 81 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: down memory lane while I'm doing it. 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: While I'm doing this, I know, Yeah, I gotta say. 83 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: This is one of those things if you're the parent 84 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: who winds up doing it's very easy to feel like 85 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: no one is valuing your time. I think I may 86 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: have screamed that a few times in the course. Also, 87 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: I had the realization that if I were to die suddenly, 88 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: I suspect my children would just never go to camp 89 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: because I don't envision my husband sitting there and doing 90 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: all the drop down menus. I don't know. Maybe I 91 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: guess he'll pay somebody to do it, but. 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: It's definitely I knew I had to be the one 93 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: to do it. I mean I probably could best for help, 94 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: but it was easier to just do it. 95 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: Although, all right, here's one thing I am not doing, 96 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: which is a summer thing for us, but in its 97 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: own way. So this is airing on my oldest child's 98 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: sixteenth birthday, So happy birthday to Asper. Michael is in 99 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: charge of taking him to actually get his permit, his 100 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: driving permit. I have gotten the medical forms done. I'm 101 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: certain that if there is a form, I will probably 102 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: wind up filling it out. But he can go to 103 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: the DMV. Deal with this. This experience, this advantace vertical ownership. 104 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: I love it. 105 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: I think that'll already be fantastic, and you know they'll 106 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 3: always remember having done that together, and hopefully it will 107 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: be a one time experience. 108 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hopefully they finish it that first time. I 109 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: think the permit's not that hard. I think they give 110 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: the permit out to anyone who's got the medical forms right, 111 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: because you have to learn to drive somehow, right, so 112 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: there's no as long as you pass the eye exam 113 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: and have your medical form, then they would give anyone 114 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: a permit. Actually getting a license is a different matter, 115 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: that's more involved, but we can't do that till you're 116 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: six months permitted anyway. 117 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: So okay, Yeah, that's changed since I was a sixteen 118 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: year old in Pennsylvania. 119 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's changed in a lot of places that they 120 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: do more graduated licensing. It's probably a good thing, but yeah, 121 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be We're going to go through it 122 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: a lot to get all those hours behind the wheel anyway. 123 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: Summer summer. So Sarah, what are you looking forward to 124 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: this summer? 125 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward to a lot. I mean, first 126 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: of all, as I said, like the variation in routine. 127 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 3: I don't mind driving the kids to school on my 128 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: way to work, but I won't be able to do that, 129 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 3: and I just think it'll be nice to like shake 130 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: things up. I like that they'll be doing different stuff. 131 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: And I have a very call light summer which I'm 132 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 3: embracing and looking forward to. I have a call heavy 133 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: fall in winter, so it's not like that doesn't come 134 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: with a cost, but still I'm going to embrace it. 135 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: I think it's because I requested so many different weeks 136 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: off for various travel things that they were just like whatever, 137 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: you could just take a bunch of call in October 138 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: and November and it'll be fine. Anyway, we have a 139 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 3: bunch of trips embedded in there, all of them with family. 140 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: My husband and I are doing a little retreat, but 141 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: that's in May, so that'll be before the summer. But yeah, 142 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: a couple of short ones, a family celebration in Chicago. 143 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to be coming to Philadelphia, which we can discuss, 144 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 3: and I'm definitely gonna see Laura, so that'll be really 145 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 3: really fun. And then we've had this Alaska Cruise slash 146 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: Vancouver Adventure on the docket for a long time. We 147 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: actually booked it in twenty twenty one, and we didn't 148 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: feel comfortable going when the time came, so twenty twenty 149 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: three it was, and I'm super super excited for that one. 150 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be really cool. And having older kids on 151 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: the cruise is probably an upside of having waited two years. Yeah. 152 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: The funny thing is exactly Genevieve would have been four, 153 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: I guess, which would have been Okay. I believe the 154 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: Disney Kids Club is open to over age three, so 155 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: you know, I thought about that kind of an advance, 156 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: and I think it would have been okay, But now 157 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: I guess she would have been three. Yeah, so she 158 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: would have been like on the border, and she might 159 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: have been not so thrilled. Now I know they'll be 160 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: absolutely thrilled to go off on their own and play 161 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: with their friends who are coming with us and be 162 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: a little bit more independent. 163 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: So you're right. 164 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: It probably worked in my favor. Although my friend had 165 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: a third baby in the interim, so I think it'll 166 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: be a little harder for her. 167 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: So it worked out less for her. And now that 168 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: they have to deal with that, well, well, you know, 169 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: but he's cute and it's gonna be fun. You get 170 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: the upside of having a cute baby on the trip, 171 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: but he's not yours, so you don't have to have 172 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: to deal with it. Yeah, we are among the random things. 173 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we have a couple of trips which are great, 174 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: but I don't need to go too much into them 175 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: as this, but random things. I'm going to a Phish concert, 176 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: so just to clarify, I'm not like a lifelong fish 177 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: fan or anything. I eat the fish food, non dairy 178 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: ice cream that been and dairy's bikes, so I'm constantly 179 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: exposed to this word fish in my freezer as a 180 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: dessert I can actually eat now. But the fish is 181 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: coming to the Man Center in Philadelphia, which is I 182 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: mean literally, it's like fifteen minutes from my house. So 183 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: I was looking through the summer catalog and it's like 184 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: a band I recognized, and I knew from just culturally 185 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: out there that they're very much a touring band, like 186 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: they are a live music band. So they've had a 187 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: couple of songs that people probably know from radio play 188 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: since the eighties or whatever, but they are also known 189 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: for jamming for a long time and improvising and stuff 190 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: like that. So I think it'll be fun to see 191 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: them in concert. And so Michael and I are going 192 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: to that. Sam and I are going to Maine. This 193 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: is his Christmas present that he wanted to go to Maine. 194 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: So we're gonna eat a lot of lobster while we're there. 195 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: We're going on a lobster boat. We're gonna go to 196 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: a Kadia. It'll be really fun. Sarah's gonna come visit here, 197 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: just so a shout out. This will be in early July. 198 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: We'll post the details of the meetup on our Patreon page. 199 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: I know we have a couple of people in the 200 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: Philadelphia area who are part of that who want to come. 201 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: But if you are not in that and don't have 202 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: any plans of joining, I just don't want to really 203 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: like announce everyone's whereabouts on the podcast that goes to 204 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: thousands of people or whatever. But just email me and 205 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: I will tell you where we will be and when 206 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: and you can come join us and we would love 207 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: to see yay. So just you just throw that in there. 208 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: You're like, and by the way, we're doing a meet up, 209 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: so yeah, we're doing a meet up. 210 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: We all do a meet up, yes, but the exact 211 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: details and location and time and all that. Just email 212 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: me to get that. If you're gonna be in the 213 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Philadelphia area in very early July, and then like not 214 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: waking up at six thirty in the morning, I think 215 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: that's my my summer treat. 216 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: I will definitely be waking up well before six thirty 217 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 3: in the morning because I do plan on running the summer, 218 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: and well, we know how how to get so. 219 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well probably I should like maybe I should like 220 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: wake up at six thirty like twice a week and 221 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: then run those mornings or something, because yeah, it gets 222 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: hot here, although there's usually there's a little more gift 223 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: to it. There's there's often at least like one day 224 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: in the week where it would have been in the 225 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: seventies for the entire morning anyway, So Heaven, Yeah, you're 226 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: so lucky. Heaven. Well, we pay for it when it's 227 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: leading on January two, yeah, versus July two anyway. So yeah, 228 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: we're we're gonna talk a little bit more about camps 229 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: and summer tips and all. So why don't we take 230 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: a quick ad break and then we'll be back with 231 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: more on that. So we are back talking all things 232 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: summer planning, our summer intentions. Sarah, what are your kids 233 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: doing this year? 234 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: So we actually have less camp scheduled for the kids 235 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: than in most summers I can remember, except for the 236 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: COVID summer twenty twenty. I don't think we did any 237 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 3: camp that year. But I don't think they're were any 238 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: camps that year, even in Florida, believe it or not. 239 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: So this year we have five weeks of camp for 240 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: all of the kids, the big kids. Of that five weeks, 241 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: three of them are this quasi overnight situation where they 242 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: go to a local camp about I don't know, forty 243 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: five to four to tim and it's to an hour 244 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: away and then they stay from Monday morning until Friday afternoon. 245 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: I have jokingly started to call it the worst of both. 246 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: Worlds, because I feel like it's all of the getting them. 247 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: Ready, packing them up, blah blah blah, but like none 248 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: of the. 249 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 3: Like real the nice piece you get on a weekend 250 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: when your kids are away camp. 251 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: It's going to be great, though. 252 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 3: I think they'll enjoy it, and for them, I hope 253 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: that it's really really fun. They're going with our neighbors, 254 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: which actually might make the driving situation a little bit easier, 255 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: So I'm excited about the potential for carpool for a 256 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: camp of that distance. And then the rest of the time, 257 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: Genevieve's not going to that camp obviously. She has five 258 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: weeks total of day camp, and those weeks are all 259 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 3: broken up by trips that we're taking. And most of 260 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: the camps that the kids have chosen this year are 261 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: actually more specialty camps. Like in the past we've had 262 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: them go to more generalized day camp. This time it's 263 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: more dance camp, soccer camp, gymnastics camp, et cetera. So 264 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: I have a spreadsheet, which I don't know if I 265 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: learned that from you or what, but I don't know 266 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: how anybody could do this without either A printed calendar 267 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: would actually work as like a visual way to do this, 268 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: but I think a spreadsheet is even easier. I have 269 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: a very simple and apple notes I at years of 270 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: like Excel or Fancier, but mine works great and I 271 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: couldn't have kept track what we were doing otherwise, especially 272 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: with the weeks of travel like mixed up with the 273 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 3: weeks of camp and fourth of July being kind of 274 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: a weird half week this year, so it got complex. 275 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: Yours must have a lot of columns. 276 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: Yes it does. Yes, the camp spreadsheet has returned for 277 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: something like it's seventh or eighth year. Hair for anyone 278 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: who's just coming to this. The camp spreadsheet, it's really 279 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: a camp in summer spreadsheet, but it's how you plan 280 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: out the summer. And what I do is I have 281 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: the names of my children across the top, and I 282 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: have the weeks of summer down the left hand side, 283 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: so each cell is an individual week, and that way 284 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: I can sort of block in when we have vacations, 285 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: like which weeks were traveling. You know, put in where 286 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: the kids are each week. So then if oh kids 287 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: are away for an overnight camp, for instance, then that 288 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: matters for like the driving for someone else. You know, 289 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: you just have to It's not a good idea to 290 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: have four children in four different day camps, for instance, 291 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: in a week, and so you have to make sure 292 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: that that isn't happening because then the driving would be ridiculous. 293 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: But if two kids are gone on an overnight camp, 294 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: then you could have two kids who are home being 295 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: something else, or maybe one kid isn't somewhere and that's 296 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: the week they can do some fun stuff with ur 297 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: nanny or with me or with Michael or whatever. If 298 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: we each took you know, one day to do something, 299 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: that could be a pretty cool week for that child. Anyway, 300 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: that's the camp spreadsheet. It just helps you make more 301 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: mindful and logistically smart decisions as you do summer planning. 302 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, we're doing I didn't feel it like you. 303 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: I didn't feel every week for everyone I've we have childcare. 304 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: The kids like to have some downtime. They'll want to 305 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: go places, amusement parks. I am sure we have our 306 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: pool is now renovated and we will be open, so 307 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll want to do that too. Or we 308 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: could go tubing or whatever, or bike riding and I 309 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: can sort of I mean, we're traveling a lot this 310 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: summer too, but I can sort of flex my schedule. 311 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: We now have childcare for some hours on Saturdays for Henry, 312 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: so it's possible for me to work on Saturdays if 313 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: I needed to, which means that I could take a 314 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: day off during the week and do something else, for instance. 315 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, excited about the various day camps and such. 316 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: They're definitely at the age where they choose what they 317 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: want to do, so everyone's doing random things. We have 318 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: a cooking camp, we have a engineering camp, we have 319 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: a Pokemon camp. We'll see did they. 320 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: Find the camps themselves, Like did they google and like 321 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: find them? 322 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: It's more that they have asked me, like I would 323 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: like to do a camp like this, And then I 324 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: look around in the people who have programs around here. 325 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: There's a couple of the major commercial camps that are 326 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: operating in this area. And then you know different like 327 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: universities have stuff or businesses do things, like there's a 328 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: pottery studio that does a camp, you know, so that's 329 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: kind of how it happened. That's really cool. 330 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: I do feel like maybe I just wasn't as aware, 331 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: but I feel like a lot of businesses have discovered 332 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: that a camp can be really nice, adjunctive kind of 333 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: auxiliary business over the summer, because I don't feel like 334 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: there were this many specialty experiences available, certainly not when 335 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: we were growing up, but even like when Adabel was little. 336 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: I just feel like everywhere I turn, every single activity 337 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: my kids do, they all have camps. And I know 338 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: this is very regional where I live. I actually think 339 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: there are don't hate me, but like more camp spots 340 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: than there are kids going to camp, and camp is 341 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: not terribly expensive. I know that this is completely flipped 342 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: in other areas, like California in particular. You have to 343 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: like jump on the way the spots and camps are like, 344 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: you know, five hundred and six hundred dollars a week. Here, 345 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: there are lots of really great specialty camps to be 346 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: had for like half that, and it's not terribly hard 347 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: to get a spot. So I just feel lucky, like 348 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 3: and I'm glad we're in this era where businesses are doing. 349 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: That yeah, I would say in our area it's it's 350 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: a mix. I mean, I think there's a lot of stuff. 351 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: There's fewer things that would run from say eight in 352 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: the morning to five in the afternoon. So if you 353 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: are looking for full time coverage, you're in a bit 354 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: more of a Yes, highly competitive market, and a lot 355 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: of camps are fairly expensive too, And I know some 356 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: of that's probably just you know, the labor market, and 357 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, if you're having to pay people to work there, 358 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: that raises that all wages are going up, you know, 359 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: because and so it's harder to find people to do 360 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: these sort of spot jobs. You know that people it's 361 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily a job everyone would want, so you know, 362 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: the things have been fairly pricely. I've definitely been aware 363 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: of that, which is one reason like we didn't book 364 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 1: every week. I mean I just say, like, well, you know, 365 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: given that I'm already paying for childcare, like they can 366 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: have some downtime and figure out things to do during 367 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: the day. And in fact, you know, sending them to 368 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: the arcade for like two hours a day, three days 369 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: a week would be vastly cheaper than most camps, and 370 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: probably they would enjoy it a lot too interesting. 371 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: I'm actually not sure that math would be true where 372 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: I live. Like I think I'm thinking of like the 373 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: the indoor playground that my kids like with all the 374 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: arcade stuff, and it's like very expensive, And I'm thinking 375 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: about the daily rate of camp I think camp here 376 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: might be I think I might be like a lucky 377 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: camp zone. Maybe maybe we're just saturated with camps. Everyone 378 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: come to Florida. Well again, everyone wants to leave, Like, 379 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: no one wants to be here one hundred percent understand. 380 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, So if people aren't spending their summers in Florida, 381 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: then yes, there would be more spots than children. So 382 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: just a more set of practical tips. I know both 383 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: of us make a summer fun list. This is a 384 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: great family activity because you should ask your kids, your 385 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: partner what they would like to put on here, Like 386 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: what are the things that would make you feel at 387 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: the end of summer like you have had a good summer. 388 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: You could ask people, well, what was your favorite thing 389 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: we did last summer? This can be an enlightening experience 390 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: because sometimes it's something that you wouldn't have pegged as 391 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: the big winner, but it might be for them. Or 392 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: when you think about last summer. What do you most 393 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: remember That could be a good question, Or have any 394 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: of your friends talked about doing something over the summer 395 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: that sounds cool to you? And you can make obviously 396 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: things that you want to do on this list too, Sarah, 397 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: how about you? What have? Yeah? I'm what's one I'm 398 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: excited I do want to do. 399 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if I did a list last year, 400 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: But for me, I almost feel like it's it's kind 401 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 3: of like you're seeking to enjoying winter, like to come 402 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 3: up with these holiday things because it's the gloomy sea like. 403 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: I want to find that find some really fun indoor 404 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 3: stuff and just things to break up the fact that 405 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: we can't be. 406 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: As free outside. 407 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: And one thing that for me always goes with my 408 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: kind of summer list making is my summer reading list, 409 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: because I like to read really fun books. I often 410 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: use modern missus Darcy's list, and she's actually it's for 411 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: purchase this year, I one hundred percent and planning on 412 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: getting her list and buying it and supporting her and 413 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 3: seeing what's on there of like opening a present or something, 414 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: and will probably request many of those books from the 415 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: library and we'll spend some of my summer enjoying them. 416 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: So in addition to actual physical outings, many of which 417 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: might be just trips to various ice cream shops in 418 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 3: the area, I like to do the summer reading thing 419 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 3: and performances like it's a great time to you know, 420 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 3: go to plays or again for us it's like indoor activities, 421 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: but there's still plenty of stuff. 422 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: To do phish concerts as the case may be. You 423 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: should also really think through the childcare situation, just because 424 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: there's always most families have some sort of change in 425 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: schedule over the summer. If your kids are in full 426 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: time daycare, there's less of it. But if you're any 427 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: child who is in school, whether you have a nanny 428 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: or not, like there's going to be some sort of 429 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: change involved in this schedule. And a key thing that 430 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people encounter is that the driving needs 431 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: are different and possibly greater. Because many schools have a bus, 432 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: or you have you're zoned to be within walking distance, 433 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: whereas that may not be the case for whatever camps 434 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: your children are doing, and so the driving may be longer, 435 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: more involved, multiple stops. It may not be something that 436 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: you can or wish to do every day, so maybe 437 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: you should think about how you could lessen that over 438 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: the course of the summer. 439 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, we will actually have more driving needs now, Oh 440 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: not necessarily. Actually, I'm super like lucky and that some 441 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 3: of the camps are right next to each other, Like 442 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: there's this one street where there's a lot of kids' activities. 443 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: It's like it'll be like a bus. 444 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: However, that's in the opposite direction of my workplace, and 445 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: a lot of these camps start a little bit too 446 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: late for me, and I wasn't planning on doing any 447 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: early care, so our nanny will be driving more than 448 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: she was during the school year, but I'm sure she'll 449 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: be fine with them. 450 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually one camp that some of the children 451 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: are in I specifically signed up for aftercare, not that 452 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: we'll really use it till six o'clock. We only need 453 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: it to like four thirty. But that enables one driver 454 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: to pick up some kids at another camp and then 455 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: head over there and get them without it being a problem. 456 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: So orchestrating it so one person can do it keeps 457 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: it from being a disaster on a day where that 458 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: might happen inadvertently. For instance, you know you wouldn't want 459 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: to I don't know if the kids want to go 460 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: or you don't want to leave them there stuck late. 461 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: You know. I'm obviously there are people still there, but 462 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to do that totally. See, you know. 463 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: Another thing to figure out obviously your own vacations, which 464 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: probably you've sorted through by this point, but sort of 465 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: workflow planning. If your colleagues or team members are taking 466 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: vacations that you know when that is you are planning 467 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: for that you have figured out any deadlines that need 468 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: to be changed or met early because of people being gone. 469 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: But in addition to understanding your own vacation, you should 470 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: definitely make sure you understand the vacation schedule of anyone 471 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: you are working closely with, because there are often various 472 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: disasters that happen along those lines. 473 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: I will tell you that, if you're able to do it, 474 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: go ahead and depending on your industry, put in your 475 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four travel dates and ask for them, because 476 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: I we're already making our next year's calendar and that's 477 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: just the reality of what I do. And yeah, it 478 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 3: just has to be. If I thought about it now, 479 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to go anywhere. It would be sad. 480 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well so the funny Yeah, the interesting thing with that, 481 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: So then you have to choose stuff that you would 482 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: do during those weeks that you correct. 483 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 3: I have no idea like what we're going to do. 484 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: I mean I have some ideas, but I don't have 485 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: anything firmly decided. But I just arbitrarily picked some weeks 486 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 3: to block them off so that six months or now, 487 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 3: I don't realize that there's a patient in every single 488 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: slot and know where to put them. 489 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense. Now you're going to be exercising differently 490 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: during the summer, and we have a lot of people 491 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: thinking about if their exercise routine will change too. Yeah. 492 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: I don't think I will change much this summer. That's 493 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: the thing, my normal thing. And I think it is 494 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 3: important to think about if you have a seasonality, like oh, 495 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: what would be more fun to do? Would you want 496 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: to do some swimming? Like is this the time to 497 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 3: try a triathlon or whatever? And in past year, summer 498 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: has been my time to be like, no, I'm going 499 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 3: to run less, I'm going to do more strength. This year, 500 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 3: I just decide I'm going to gut it out and 501 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to like use the summer as heat training 502 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: to make me a stronger runner when it gets cooler, 503 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: So this will be an interesting experience. I have never 504 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: done a high mileage period of running during a Florida summer, 505 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: so wish me luck. 506 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well better you than me. I don't know. I'll 507 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: probably just keep running my little two to three mile 508 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: runs here and there. But in terms of big summer 509 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: work goals like this is I know sometimes where people 510 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: are just like kind of hanging on during summer because 511 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: maybe their childcare isn't as many hours as they have 512 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: during the school year. You know, if you've got more driving, 513 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: more camp driving, so you're not getting as much done, 514 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: you're taking weeks off, so you're just trying to get 515 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: through the stuff that you have to do over the summer. 516 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: But if you're in an industry where it's a little 517 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: slower over the summer, maybe this is a time where 518 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: you can accomplish some big work goal that keeps getting 519 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: pushed off because you're too busy the rest of the year. 520 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: I know that I plan to finish the novel I 521 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: am working on. Obviously, I've written a draft already, but 522 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: I've been going through and revising, doing some very heavy 523 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: revisions so hopefully I have a draft of that by midsummer, 524 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: when I plan to take a writing retreat. So that 525 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: is on my list of things to do this summer. 526 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: I am getting some time off from family stuff, and 527 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: I will probably use it as my writing retreat to 528 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: spend some time with the book. 529 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: Sounds awesome and maybe relaxing as well. And we fully 530 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: give you also permission to make summer just you know, 531 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: a more relaxing time. Or you're focused on non work things, 532 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: you're focused on hobbies, you're focused on travel, you're focused 533 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 3: on yourself. But maybe if there's a work thing that's 534 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: that's fun, like a project that is related to work 535 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: that you always wanted to do, but isn't like the 536 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: regular grind of what you generally pump. 537 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: Well that's my novel. I mean like, yeah, that's perfect 538 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 1: no sense that this is. This is not like the 539 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: time management book the VANDERCAM enterprise needs to crank out next. 540 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: It's not no, you're right, podcasts, it's not the speeches 541 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: paying the bills. It's something totally different. It's a fun thing. 542 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: It's fun. It's the fun thing. Yeah, yeah, So. 543 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am hoping I can create a book proposal 544 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 3: over the summer to get it ready to submit by 545 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: the end of the summer. I plan on doing less. 546 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 3: I'm not going to run a vest Late Plans academy 547 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: in the summer because I just don't think the vibe 548 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 3: is right for. 549 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: That kind of content. So I'll have more time and 550 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm excited to move forward with that. 551 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: Yay. 552 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: Well pivoting a little bit to more you know, the 553 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: products and superficial aspects of summer. What are you wearing 554 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: in the summer. I guess you have warm weather year round, 555 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: so it probably doesn't change that much. But is there 556 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: summer fashion that Yeah, it doesn't change. It doesn't change. 557 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: I mean I honestly, mosquitoes are like, you know, you 558 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 3: make this choice, like do I cover up my body 559 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: for the mosquitos or do I expose my body for 560 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 3: the heat, And it's like a trade off. And so 561 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: I love the idea of like little floaty summer dresses. 562 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: I'm looking at one right now, I'm recording on my closet. 563 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: It is so cute. 564 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: Here we go, sorry, listeners, but isn't this adorable? I'm 565 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 3: like super into this. 566 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: Oo that is a dark I can and we can 567 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: describe it. It's got like patches of color. It's nice 568 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: and flowy. It's it's floral. 569 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: It's super flowy and super light. It's by Marine Layer, 570 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 3: and I do plan on wearing that during some summer 571 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 3: fun this year. 572 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: But like then, the. 573 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: Mosquitoes just have full access to all types of body parts, 574 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: so I'm gonna have to cover myself up with deet. 575 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, we don't dress really any differently during the summer. 576 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: I still have my a gold cutoffs that I felt 577 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: like I had to ask my reader's permission to wear 578 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: and they said, yes, go for it. And you know 579 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: now that now it's been me my third summer wearing them, 580 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: and they're still going strong. I really want a pair 581 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: of white wide leg or flare jeans. That is my 582 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: summer fashion quest. 583 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: Summer fashion quest, I like that. I'm always wary of 584 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: white just because I feel like I spill on myself. 585 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't somebody else does. But yeah, I struggle with 586 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: this every summer. I don't like the way shorts look 587 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: on me. I mean, they look amazing on other people, 588 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 1: but I feel like I have just the wrong body 589 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: build for most shorts, and so I'm struggling with what 590 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: to do with that. I bought like some Jeane cutoffs 591 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,239 Speaker 1: that were like really comfortable, and they hit it just 592 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: the wrong. It's like just where my calves come out, 593 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: so it looks like I have very wide legs, very unflattering. 594 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: So I'm still starting through all this. I may just 595 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: start wearing dresses, more skirts and dresses. Yeah, and they 596 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: can be I think for so long, I didn't, you know, 597 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: when I had like nursing babies and stuff, because it's 598 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 1: just a dress is a disaster for that. But I 599 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: don't need to worry about that, so I could. I 600 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: could totally wear a dress and it will be comfortable 601 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: and it won't be shorts cutting across the worst part 602 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: of your leg. And yeah, that's probably the way I 603 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: should go. 604 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: I want a full report on the new summer dress 605 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: wardrobe and skirts. Don't forget skirts. It's skirts skirts out there. 606 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: And how about swimsuits? Do you own one? That's uh? 607 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: I do. 608 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: I just don't like actually like putting them on and 609 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: getting in the water. But I'll work on that. I mean, 610 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 3: it is really hot, and honestly, I was at a 611 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 3: pool party and I was like, why did I not 612 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: wear bathing suit? Because I'm dying, like this was a 613 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: week ago. So yeah, I will wear my bathing suits. 614 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what my problem is. 615 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: Said, is an interesting thing. Yeah, as I've gotten to 616 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: know your personality more, I'm like, Sarah really never wants 617 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: to go in the water. It's true. Like we've we've 618 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: met at beaches for several times now, and I'm like, 619 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm going in the water. I was like, Okay, I 620 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go take a nap. Well, I also 621 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: really like naps. 622 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: That's not necessarily anti water right now, but yeah, no, 623 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 3: it's not my not my recreational choice of activity. I 624 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: don't trust oceans very much. I can't even watch when 625 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: my husband takes them in the ocean, and I try 626 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: to like look away because it makes me anxious. So 627 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: Therapy Sessions Slash podcast. 628 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: Episode Okay, okay, but you have a swimsuit. Yeah. I 629 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: have multiple swimsuits, some of which are barely worn. So 630 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: I bought these like speedo ones that have a little 631 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 1: rooshing in the in the front. They're black and so 632 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: they you know, cover everything and stay up and you 633 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: can swim in them. But they don't look just terribly 634 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: like matronly as some of the ones that you know 635 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: you can wind up with. But that's probably a work 636 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: in progress as well. I really need to get on that. 637 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: I am happy with my Sharyck's shoes. Though this was 638 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: an Instagram, I was succumbed. You know. They keep showing 639 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: you the ads of somebody being like, I walked twelve 640 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: miles around Barcelona with no blisters. Like, I don't know 641 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: if that will be the case or not. I'm not 642 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: going to Barcelona, but you know, it would be great 643 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: to have a pair of cute shoes you can walk 644 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: twelve miles in and not get a blister. I don't 645 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: know if that is that's probably overstating things. But they 646 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: are very comfortable and I like them, so I will 647 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: probably wind up wearing them. Big chunks of the summer, 648 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 1: all right, And what are you eating? What are your 649 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: favorite summer meals and treats? 650 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 3: Just lots of ice cream, taking the kids for various 651 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: different types of ice cream. I need to get to 652 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 3: salt and straw, which we now have in Miami, which 653 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: is very exciting. So that will be a field trip 654 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: that I will take. I don't want to steal yours 655 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: because when you said yours. I was like, yep, so 656 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: you can say it. Well, I've been getting into these 657 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: like fruit popsicles. 658 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. We found some version and now again 659 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: I don't remember what the brand name is, but it 660 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: was at Costco. We got a four pack of different 661 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: fruit popsicles. But it was like real fruit, so it 662 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: didn't it wasn't like that weird frozen sugar like. There 663 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: were pieces of real fruit in it. And it was 664 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: actually very tasty because when you freeze anything like you 665 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: freeze bananas and put them in smooth as, it tastes 666 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: ice cream basically, you know, So that was my feeling 667 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: about this. It was equivalent. We will probably have a 668 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: lot of strawberry Asie lemonades from Starbucks, because that's something 669 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: we really have our order going here. So Jasper and 670 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: I get the strawberry sie lemonade with the strawberries, Ruth 671 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: likes hers without the strawberries, and then Sam has gotten 672 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: into the strawberry cream frappuccinos, which of course is probably 673 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: like the worst thing you could order at Starbucks ever, 674 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, we wind up there a lot. 675 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 3: That's so funny. But it was the lobster rolls I 676 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: didn't want to steal from you. 677 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no. Well, Sam and I are going 678 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: to Maine, and you know, the whole point of being 679 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: there is that we're going to have lots of lobster rolls. 680 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: I love, you know, lobster with mayonnaise on a bun. 681 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: It's really good. If you can eat it by the water, 682 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: that's even better. I will never say no to a 683 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: lobster roll, Like it's on a menu. I'm getting it. Yeah, 684 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: Well it's good stuff. It's good stuff. So lobs of lobster. Well, 685 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: there's also one in Asbury Park, which is we're near 686 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: where we go to the beach, so we might wind 687 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: up eating there as well. A cousin's main lobster. Sorry 688 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: I should have mentioned that. Ye our favorite foods t 689 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: Maybe some day, yes, some day? All right. So the 690 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: question comes from a listener who is transitioning out of 691 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: full time daycare to elementary school. And yet this elementary school, 692 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, is eight thirty to twelve thirty only it's. 693 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: A transitional kindergartenk Oh yeah, interesting. What is that some 694 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 3: places have it? We don't have it. I think it's 695 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: for like, oh man, I should have researched. I feel 696 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 3: like it's for kids who are like a little young 697 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: for kindergarten maybe and then are still going to do 698 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: another year of kindergarten afterwards. 699 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: Maybe. Okay, well that makes sense because I was wondering. 700 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, is kindergarten? I mean, we have 701 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: half day kindergarten here in my district, and it's like 702 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: the bane of people's existence. Likely it's getting changed. I 703 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: feel like that's super it's really old school, really old school. 704 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: But I was surprised to hear that somebody else had that. Anyway, 705 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: be that as it may, this listener's child will be 706 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: going to school from eight thirty to twelve thirty. Only 707 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: now her daycare has an option of an aftercare starting 708 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: at noon. However, this person would have to get her 709 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: child from this pre kindergarten to daycare, which, as you 710 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: can imagine, would be a bit of a hassle in 711 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: the middle of the day. So she says she could 712 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: hire a person to take her there every day. But obviously, 713 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: once you have hired that person, seems like, well they 714 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: could just take her home and be in charge of 715 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: her and then take her to activities as well. So 716 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: she's considering thinking of getting an aftercare nanny because then 717 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: that person would be available for driving in other things, 718 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: would love your advice on what she should do. 719 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So she gave us different options, and I was like, well, 720 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 3: if it sounds like these are all options too, So 721 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 3: if they really are all in the budget, I would 722 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: one hundred percent choose the nanny plus activities option. And 723 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, if you are unable to find a 724 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 3: nanny willing to work those afternoon hours to do what 725 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 3: we've done and do the whole kind of okay, then 726 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 3: nanny can. 727 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: Maybe help get the kid ready for school. 728 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 3: Or maybe the nanny comes in at nine or ten 729 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 3: am and then stays, you know, until dinner time, or 730 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 3: you work out, you know, maybe they want to work 731 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 3: thirty five hours, like whatever kind of works for the 732 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 3: nanny and for you to be helpful, because the nice 733 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 3: thing is then you can have her take the child 734 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: to activities and you will hop back up if and when, 735 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 3: and probably when your child is sick. 736 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: Yes, when she cannot go to school from eight thirty 737 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: to twelve thirty some day, you have an employee who 738 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: works for you who could then come cover it. Because 739 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: if they're a full time employee, they're not doing something else, right. 740 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean that's that's clearly the more expensive option 741 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: of these, these that are laid out so that. 742 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: May or may not be feasible. 743 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: But if this is just more like what should I do, 744 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 3: I can do any of these, that's what I would pick. 745 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, If you were going to try to get somebody, 746 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, get from school to day care, I think 747 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: you definitely need to look into the other parents, like 748 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: who else is in the same situation as you, If 749 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: they're are other families going from your transitional kindergarten to 750 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: daycare in the afternoon. If you could get three families 751 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: and then each of you does one to two days 752 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: a week, and that's something that you guys can swing 753 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: with your work schedules, like maybe you work from home 754 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: mostly and so you would be available to do this. 755 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: You just don't want to take it on as a 756 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: responsibility every single day. That could work, you know, it's 757 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: just carpools are sometimes better than others, right, you know, 758 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: you're relying on the other parents also thinking this is 759 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: a good solution and one that they want to stick with. 760 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: That could be an option as well, and certainly would 761 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: be more affordable most likely. 762 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you'll have to let us know what you 763 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 3: end up choosing. I think you can't go wrong with 764 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: any of these. And it's an exciting time starting real 765 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: school after daycare, Like that's a big milestone. 766 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: Yay. Yeah, all right, Sarah, I love of the week. 767 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: What do you have for us this week? 768 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with some summer products so our family house. 769 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: Some sunscreen is the Alta MD Pure. It's I love it. 770 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 3: It just rubs in so nicely. 771 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: It is a. 772 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 3: Like a mineral barrier sunscreen, not a chemical, which I 773 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 3: just prefer, especially for younger kids. But it actually rubs in. 774 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 3: It doesn't like leave your skin all white and pasty, 775 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: and it just works like if I wear it, I 776 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 3: don't think I've ever had it really let me down, 777 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 3: even though I'm not the best about reapplying, So I 778 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 3: think it's just good stuff. I think it's like forty 779 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 3: seven SPF or something. And then my other go to 780 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 3: summer product that I often have like sitting next to 781 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 3: the sunscreen in all my bags is Ben's Mosquito Repellent. 782 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 3: It has a lot of deet in it. 783 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: I need it. And you've got your mosquitos. I'm up 784 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: here dealing with the moths in the classet that I'm 785 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: trying to get rid of. We all have our little 786 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: pests that we have to sort through. Honestly, I just 787 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: like the innovation of spray sunscreen. And I know some 788 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: of them are better than others or whatever, but you know, 789 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: when you have five kids, not having to rub it 790 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: into everyone and like make sure everything, you just like 791 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: line them up and spray. Now, obviously the older kids 792 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: you can't really do it. They are kind of in 793 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: charge of themselves, and so I keep checking, like did 794 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: you do your sunscreen? And you can very quickly find 795 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: out that and then they didn't when somebody has, you know, 796 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 1: got a nice little sunburn after your day at the beach, 797 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: which there's limited things you can do about once your 798 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: children are old enough, but to definitely kind of to 799 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: keep encouraging the sunscreen and like, please just do it, please, 800 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: just do it, please, just do it. Having multiple bottles 801 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: around so it's never like multiple bottles. Yeah, this is 802 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: not an area to cheap out on. I mean not 803 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 1: even just like you know, getting the fancy sunscreen like Sarah, 804 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: Like even if you're buying like the cheapest possible version 805 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: having multiple bottles of it, because it's going to walk off, right, 806 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: like somebody's gonna take it into the car, and then 807 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: it's not by your door, right or you know, you've 808 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: put it in a beach bag and then it's not 809 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: available on your porch when you're trying to get somewhere. 810 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: So just many many bottles. You can clean it up 811 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: and this fall just dump them all or whatever that 812 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: it needs to go. But you know, this is one 813 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: area where I think a little bit of redundancy is 814 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: going to increase the chances of it getting used. Absolutely 815 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: all right, Well, this has been best of both worlds. 816 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: We've been talking about summer plans, sum are fun, various 817 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: logistical things dealing with summer. We will be back next 818 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: week with more on making work and life fit together. 819 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. 820 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 3: You can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com 821 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 3: or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, and you. 822 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 2: Can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. 823 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: This has been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please 824 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: join us next time for more on making work and 825 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: life work together.