WEBVTT - Players Lounge_3_6.mp3 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:04.880 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:14.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge, 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:18.760 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:24.479 Now your hosts Barry Church, Heckma Harrison, de Montrey Moore, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:26.560 and Newie Scruggs. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:31.680 It is that time, everybody. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:33.919 Hello, Welcome into the Players Lounge, brought to you by 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.040 Aristo Crack Gaming. The game is all Oh, you got 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:42.600 HECKM Harrison here, Wiggles, got that Darius. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:57.880 Slay Supership, Yeah, I see the Philly Dalen Hurts. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.080 He just joined squad. Other boys? Are you serious? We're 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:08.039 gonna do this, y'all know, like he did, go ahead 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:08.920 and introduce the rest of. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:14.959 The going around around Maggy form a cowboy got buried 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.760 Church for a cowboy, I struggs. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:22.240 All right, all right, all right boy, I'm crazy man. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:23.160 Let me take my head off. 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.959 Y'all don really like that. I'm like, I'm not gonna 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:29.600 stop wearing my green. Okay, this is my this is 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:34.319 my uni. Okay, you've been rocking green for about the week, 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.920 you know, ever since at one. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:42.840 Store the bird hold on give him so much. I 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:47.080 don't know that they don't know about the time. I 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:48.880 don't know nothing about the time. You don't know nothing 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.400 about exactly. This is your own. Don't leave his own 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:54.880 more fans. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.360 He's not there no more so. I mean, I guess 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.240 now you're a saint. Guys, what they got? 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.200 How much money do they have? Here's a new bag. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:05.840 You get a bag. You get a bag, You get 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:06.240 a bag. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.880 Mars was not he saw the bag, so the SAQ 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:15.240 one bag? Was we going to the courthouse? No ceremony needed, 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.000 No we going to the courthouse. Don't even worry about it. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.080 We ain't gonna make this mistake. Go ahead, and this, 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.280 this is the first mistake we made. We're gonna re 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.520 up this because we already know how we got to 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.480 the super Bowl was on them legs. 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.919 Speak on it, okay, what he say back in the day, 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:35.200 we got some good thing here. 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.000 When you got a good thing, you gotta lock it 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.280 down right away. 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.520 No need to know. You just show up at Auntie. 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.760 How you be like? I didn't know y'all was married to. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:46.840 The How is my man in New York still have 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.560 a job? Man? 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:49.880 What was his name? Martin? 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:50.280 That mar. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:54.520 I'm gonna tell you how you got a job. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.440 His son, you've seen his son made the calling who 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.720 he said he should have drafted, and look what happened. 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:01.799 He said. They said, hey, you listen to your son. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.480 Take this pic this year your last struct should be 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:05.000 listening to it. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:10.200 Joe Shane, Giants, Jim got Let's be nice, must be nice, 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:11.239 must be nice? 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:11.600 Right? 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:13.320 How many? 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:17.280 How many times can you make a mistake and you 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.000 see it pay off on another team? 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:20.519 You see. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:28.240 Where is Daniel Joe? He's somebody back up? Dis Wow, 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:29.920 you hate to see it. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:35.520 Damn Joe always like, hey there's Nico. Wow, exactly, get 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:36.160 it out, get off. 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.640 It can always be worse. It can all you know 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:42.400 the Murphy's law. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.080 The Murphy's law is it relates to the MAVs is 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.640 never mind, not gonna do this. 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.760 It's a different day, different day, different show. Let's go, 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:53.320 let's go. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.080 Because somebody brought up Nico Harrison and I said, you 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:56.960 see the Giants. 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:02.720 Gym said, y'all will go. Spike guy. His owner was like, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.520 I'm mad if I see him in Philly. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.680 So not only did you see him in Philly, you 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.880 saw him running up and down against you and Philly 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:10.880 see the guy hoisting the Super Bowl. 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.640 You know that historic historic was. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.320 That's what's happening in the NFC East with the team 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.560 that won the division and then the team also made 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.880 the wild card whose former coaches Dan Quinn, who's former 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.000 defensive coordinators, former assistant Joe Witt Jr. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.640 They went out and got Deebo Samuel's a wide receiver. 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:39.840 They got gifted depot gifted gift for thank you, that's. 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:50.640 The fourth You're just not gonna let that go. Hell, 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:51.080 you just. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:57.000 Half catches. Oh wow, But that was That's why That's 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.480 why I say it was gifted. That's why I say 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.880 it was gifted because it's like a fifth for a 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.800 fifth of Debo in that offense. I don't care what 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.680 happened with Debo overweight. All that he's gonna be in 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.760 shape when he show up for for OTA's. He gonna 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.120 be in shape with that first game of the season. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.560 I mean, can you imagine with that with what they 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:19.120 have offensively already, and to mix in Deebo Samuels with that, 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:19.640 I mean. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.599 Hey, it's about to get spooky. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.920 They just gave They just gave Cliff Kingsbury de bo 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.800 yar Bro. You know how it is when you get cut, 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.480 you get cut, you go to a new it's that 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:33.160 new fresh. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.400 Grad like I gotta go, I gotta go. 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.919 Let my old girlfriend know, Hey, I got this line up, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:37.960 Chris got it. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:38.520 I'm here. 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.560 Debo is about to come over there. And if he 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.640 comes back in peak performance, and add. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.720 That he doesn't have to be the number one guy, 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.000 he don't have to. But you got scary Terry out there. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.200 You can double everything, Hayden, you can't double everybody. It's 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.040 gonna be interesting. They're gonna be able to spread the field. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:57.120 They definitely so their their general manager in Washington was 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:57.960 in San Francisco. 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:59.920 So Adam Peters, Yes, shout out to my dog. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.880 He has he has a knowledge of what Samuel can do. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:04.800 And so. 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.600 But but notice it when when I was reading social media, 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.360 I know if you caught some of the comments, people 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:17.880 were trying to defend cowboys and saying that, hey, you 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.400 know you got him for a five because of the money. 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:22.760 Like I said, it's not it's not. It's not apples 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:27.160 to apples, and Mingo was on a low contract and 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.360 mainly were fighting fighting Clarence hill Man. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.000 You know what, look sometimes you just read it, have 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:33.560 an opinion. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:38.760 I just read Cowboy fans that were trying to say, no, 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.200 it's wrong, and clans you can't say it's the same. 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.080 But what your initial reaction is A fifth Mingo four, 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:51.720 make it make sense? And Cowboy fan several of them 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:58.440 were saying because Mingo's younger, cheaper, therefore the pick was higher, 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:03.440 have have not yeah, versus proven player who's been to 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:08.120 Super Bowls. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:07.880 Two, they gotta pick up twenty two on it, right? 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:09.440 Twenty two is that that's not. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:13.840 That's not a crazy number for a extremely solid See 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.679 I ain't gonna say he's, you know, top three, top five, 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:19.320 but he's an extremely solid receiver out there. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.440 Twenty two, that's that's not a bad deal. 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.000 But what I think, what I think, just piggybacking on that, 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:25.880 is I believe that he's in the league of his 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.840 own as far as how he can transform from a 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:30.520 slot to a running back. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:32.520 He's dangerous in that way. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:37.320 Short yardage guy, and that's what that's what the commanders 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.360 are getting. And that's why it's like when you're sitting 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:42.000 back as a Cowboy fans like, damn, it's embarrassment of riches. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.160 You get debo for the commanders in the way that 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.200 now he's able to maneuver in that offense. I mean, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:53.200 the NFC East is gonna be often. It's changed very offensively. 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.040 You better get you better get your defensives ready. Uh 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.760 if you're in the NFC's is that why they paid 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.800 uh Od's us so much? 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.880 Because they've seen all the weapons that are coming to 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.920 the place. You know, it's solidified defense. I was hoping 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:15.200 you was gonna tell me, you tell me. I mean 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.360 to be honest with you. It's no slack to him. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.240 He looking at his numbers. He's dependable, he's been there, 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.720 he's been a starter since he's been here consistently. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.520 You're young, and what from. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.000 What I'm hearing about his leadership in the locker room 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.640 that you can't keep letting all your talent go. Now, 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:35.720 does he deserve the bag and this and that? I 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.640 think he definitely deserves the bag. And if he didn't 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.960 get it here, he was going to get that somewhere else. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.800 So like the Cowboys was like, hey, lock it up now. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.360 The only other thing about that is you got Mic 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.080 on the other side. If I'm looking at Mike, if 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.280 I'm Michaeh, I'm calling my agent and be like, hey, 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.080 I know we say we're gonna make this work and 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.440 build this team up, but uh that the bag just 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.680 got bigger. If that made sense, If you paid him that, 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.880 what does that say about me? And if you come 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.319 anywhere close to that number what you gave him for 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.160 what I've done and the accolades that I've already proven, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.000 I'm feeling slighted as a player. But then that also 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.560 goes to see, we're gonna find out how are you 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:13.440 really a team guy? 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:14.400 If that makes sense. 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.880 So as far as paying him, I think the Cowboys 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.760 did right by solidifying a defense that when if you 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.640 don't know if you can afford Micah and if he's 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.160 gonna go, then yes, like don't let all my horses 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.280 leave the stable. I think it was a desperate move, 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.319 but you know what, they were desperate. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.320 Steven Jones talked about it yesterday the press. Come, yeah, 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.200 we didn't, he said, if we don't have anybody else 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.920 after Osis, Mazi, Mazi Mazi, That's what he said. 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.040 So if anything. 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.439 Olso to me left money on the table by not 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:47.959 going to free agency. 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:48.880 He definitely did. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.679 But that lets you know that one first of all, 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.960 you're in Dallas America's team. If you get paid the 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.720 money here off the field, all that stuff is gonna 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.480 be something. But did he really leave money on the table. 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.079 He left money. He could have caught a couple extra ten, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.520 maybe twenty somewhere else or something like that. Or he 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.719 could have strong going the Cowboys with them being as 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.400 desperate as they are, which. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:12.240 I felt like he did strong gardment. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.640 That's why the number is like when everybody when that contract, 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.120 everybody knew he was gonna get paid, but when the 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.760 numbers came out, everybody was like, you don't think he 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.840 was back there? He said, Hey, I'm gonna loosen up 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.559 this niggie on you real quick and go ahead and 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:26.480 take that discount. 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:31.880 And so great job for him. I think they overpaid him. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:33.520 I think they should have let him walk because you 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:34.959 could have spent that money elsewhere. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:36.959 You gotta pay Micah and then. 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.000 Potentially was going to be out there at this upcoming 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:40.680 free agency with all the trades and stuff. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:42.520 So I'll disagree with you. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.920 And I said, from this standpoint, you let him walk away, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.199 who are you replacing him with. We haven't seen a 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.720 plan that said, hey this person is you know if 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.360 ibra Flus had somebody in mind or the team being known, 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:56.440 you got to float out there. 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.559 It would Hey, there's interest here. You didn't hear that, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.040 you didn't And that's what that's what that's a double 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:04.199 a sword because. 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.800 Even though you didn't, you didn't hear that, you still 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:07.840 gotta pay Micah. 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.719 And then there's but they've always said that. Knowing that, 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.240 I mean, that's that's been the case. He's still going 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:13.839 to get paid. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.400 So we know he's gonna get paid. Will he get 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.520 paid the bag that he truly deserves? And then once 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.199 you pay him, are you gonna have money to pay 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:23.120 other people? 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:31.040 Tell me the last guy Jerry Wanton who didn't get 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:31.880 the full back? 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.280 It that's true, I mean, but go down, go down 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:36.640 the list. 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:40.280 No, who is the last guy where they I mean 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.920 eight player agent didn't come in there set in the market. 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.000 They just don't do deals for their top guy. They 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:48.160 set the market. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.600 CD, he didn't take you, CD didn't go. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.840 Well, he's going to be the fourth No that everybody 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.839 come in everybody? Yeah that so, Travis Frederick, that is true, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.080 And that's what I'm saying. Once you set the market, 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.360 you've already paid. Oh this money, DZU. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.679 With this money, you're gonna set the market with Michael 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.760 because he's gonna get what he's gonna get. But then 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.880 after that, where's the rest of the bag. There's still 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.600 other holes that need to be filled. 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.320 Can we can we talk about production, that's all, you know, 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.400 And let's talk about production from a player standpoint. And 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.480 Osa if he got over on him, if he if 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.120 he should have you know, sat in a little longer 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.040 to see if there was anything extra. Maybe so yeah, 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.439 maybe so, Maybe he didn't shop his deal with other teams. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.480 I think when the Cowboys came to the table with 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.280 their deal, his his pen could hit the path quickly 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.560 to sign it and get on with me. You know, 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:43.520 I'll but but but my my apprehension on it was 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.240 based off of production alone. That's all I'm saying. And 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.040 I didn't and I'm sure Steven wasn't saying that. He 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.640 was what was the word you use it? Desperate they were, 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.120 And he wasn't desperate in negotiation. He probably was trying 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.360 to be you know, a strong arm Osa as well. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.640 But it's it reeks of player development, It reeks of 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.319 what are you looking at in the draft. It reeks 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.000 of our inability to bring in free agents that are 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.320 worth the assault that can help us. You pay a 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.840 guy that you don't think that you were probably on 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.200 the fence with as far as his production is concerned, 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.880 but also you're not shopping that deal looking at other 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.240 guys that are out there that are available to you 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.160 because free agency. Free agency is about to start. That 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.280 was my only thing, and yes, Osa is the guy. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:29.840 I mean, excuse me, my Mazie is all that you have. 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:31.880 And if you're gonna point to that, then obviously that 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.000 puts you in a state of desperation. That puts you 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.880 in a state of desperation not only from a free 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:40.640 agency standpoint, but also in draft. What you're gonna draft 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.800 and rounds one through three is what I want to 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.840 see because if you don't come out to shoot with 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:50.400 a defensive lineman or offensive something, you got to show 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.800 in these first three picks that you have where what 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.360 your needs are. And it's all in the trenches for 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:57.079 the Cowboys. 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.640 So who would have been out there on free agency? 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.560 It's the perfect storm. We all know it. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.640 There are players that we feel that don't deserve it, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.120 bag that do deserve it, bag off of him, being dependable, 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.480 consistent and being there, what's out there? 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.440 Who are you really going to be bringing that's that 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:16.520 much better than him? 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.960 And that's dependable and you know what you're getting, because 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.080 we also know that once you get the bag, you 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.720 have that fear of like will you get complacent or 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.400 will that make you more motivated? 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.320 But de Montreal we got thirty one other teams that 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.200 you can see that are making moves that don't just 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.280 sit on their hands and say for who, for what? 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.040 Yeah, make a move, make a move. And this was 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.320 the Cowboys making a move. And that's why I said, 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.440 was it the right move that a lot of fans wanted? No, 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.880 But in the eyes, you can't be mad because now 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:44.760 this is the one thing that the Cowboys have been 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.560 saying for a year. Go get your guy, do it 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.640 right now, and pay that guy. And when it came 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.400 up time to say for this guy, they said that 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:51.800 was their guy and they paid for him. 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.880 Once again, they waited too late. Yeah, the time to 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:55.840 do this was last year. 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.920 It definitely was with other players you could have got well, 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.000 but just oh so loan oh saloon. 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.440 You could have got him at a cheaper price last year. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.200 But going into you know, you wanted to make a 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.560 guy prove it and okay. 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:09.880 And you wanted to take care of Dak and see 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.920 the lamb. So you waited. So this is the cost 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:13.440 of waiting. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.880 The price went up, and we can debate all day like, hey, man, no, 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:18.680 it's ain't. 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:23.360 Aaron Donell Part two, Chris Jones, You no, no, but. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.920 You need a defensive tackle. You didn't have anything else. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.680 And before you let him walk out of the door 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.680 for nothing, pay this man and at least you have something. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:39.160 Because ebra Flus needs and this defense. You need this player. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:43.920 So therefore the value of the player for them that 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:44.800 it increased. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:45.960 Yea perfect storm. 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.200 And exactly perfect storm. So he was a free agent, 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.800 he had a great year, he was healthy. You bring 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.320 him at Ebraflus. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:57.640 The demand, Hey, why that's why if I understand why 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.240 he didn't go to free agency. 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.400 In an eber Flu's defense. 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:05.720 That like the wife front is the four demon lineman. 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.960 All this about it is just penetration. Can you cause gap? 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.960 And can I get linebackers to feel the holes right there? 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.320 And if that guy is that guy, it's like, oh man, 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:15.920 I'm about to be making plays, I'm about to be 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:17.680 getting sacked. I got paid the money, so I'm going 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.760 to have the opportunity and once again here on America's team. 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.320 The tension that's going to be there to you, the pressure. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.400 If I'm him, I'm like, hey, this is one I'm 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:29.040 about to elevate. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:30.840 Pressure. Make diamonds a bus pipes. 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.080 Right now, and no state taxes exactly, exactly, a perfect 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:35.920 the perfect perfect storm. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.640 You hit free agency at a time where the Cowboys 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.480 desperately needed a defensive tackle. You hit a high mark 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.880 twenty something a year. No state tax isn't for him, 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.120 It's I'm good. I ain't got to move my house. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.040 We get a bigger house outside looking at we ain't 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.920 part of the organization outside looking in, man, did they 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:53.600 feel the need? 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:54.680 Did they? 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.440 Because if you look at the rest of the division, 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.040 for being completely honest, that's what we do here on 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.840 the on the players line, also, Diggi Zua is a 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.320 rotational player for the Philadelphias. He's a rotational player for 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:10.159 the Washington Commanders. He may start with the New Yorkers. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:11.879 They got that big Boyonaire as well in the New 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:16.080 York defensive line. Did they feel that need with Odiggezua 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.680 here with the Dallas cow because that's not mister you said. 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.080 He had a great year. He was also part of 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.600 the defensive line that was getting ran through. Okay, Like 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.919 I'm just just just play alone. I'm just looking at 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:28.680 I'm I'm definitely there with you. 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:33.240 But like you said, I can't let everything go when 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.240 everything is real and breaking down and so on the 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.880 outside looking in, I'm gonna be like, dang, this is true. 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:40.280 That's why I asked you, I said, I don't think 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.920 as a fan, I would be like, yo, we shouldn't 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.320 have paid them that much. We should have just let 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.199 him go out there because he would have got it 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.040 in another conference, but not over here for what we need. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.480 But then it's like you're rolling the dice. He really 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:52.040 want to do? 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:53.560 I really want to go over there and wait for 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.320 the girl that might not give me a date. When 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.040 I got the girl that's consistent, that is here, right 0:17:58.119 --> 0:17:59.320 and potentially, when. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:05.720 You're the last one, you're the last one. This is 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.840 the last call. This is the last call. Look at 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:09.239 you down there at the end of the war. Come 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.960 with me, guys. 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.000 Hey, I'm telling you right now, I be mad if 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.679 this turns into Cinderella. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:22.000 You think so he could, and you're talking about you're 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.240 talking about it from a scheme standpoint. You're talking about 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.560 from scheme standpoint, and abra flu scheme is going to 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.639 accentuate some of the talents, some of the things that 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.280 he already has in his wheelhouse. I look at him 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.159 when he played with dan Quinn. You know, he had 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.520 an opportunity under dan Quinn and then you still had 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.800 a defense that was left more to be desired in 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.800 the running game, stopping the run as well. So look, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:43.920 he has he can always All these guys have built 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.480 in excuses. Three different defensive coordinators in the last three seasons. 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.200 Oh have we not seen the best of them? Okay, 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.840 and he got the bag. Now we get an opportunity. 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.280 Now we get an opportunity to really judge. And let's 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.800 just be honest. Let's be black and white. Now, all right, 0:18:58.320 --> 0:18:58.960 black and white. 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.040 Now, if you don't show up, I'm gonna be the 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.639 first one to say, hey, he came in there, no 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.800 ask on and said hey, drop out, or he's gonna 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:07.840 be exactly. 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:11.200 Say he gonna come in there. Let's get a break 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.400 his key. 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A player retires and everyone, everyone unanimously says, 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:01.840 first ballot, Hall of Fame. We don't even it's just boom, 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:03.359 Mike drop, Hall of next stop. 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:06.240 Hall of Fame. That happened yesterday at the Star. 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:11.920 When Zach Martin retired from the Dallas Cowboys and Barry Church, Treymore. 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.479 You all played with one Zach Martin, number seventy, So 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:16.920 I'll turn the floor over to you. 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:17.280 Now. 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:20.119 Yeah, I had the pleasure of being Zach's teammate for 0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:21.960 three year his first three years in the league before 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.720 I went to Jacksonville. And you know, you hear it 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.159 all the time, kind of corny coach talk about, you know, 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:29.320 first in the room, last the league, you know, the 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:31.920 hardest working. But this is true when you talk about 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:35.720 Zach Martin and exactly what he personified as a professional 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:36.160 out there. 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.359 He wasn't a big raw rock guy that you know, 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:40.600 bring up the troops Cowboys on three. You know we're 0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:41.879 gonna do that. He wasn't that. 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.360 He was a lead by example, and he showed each 0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:46.479 and every one of those young guys behind him how 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:48.040 to be great when you go out there. I mean, 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.159 the guy has more with all Pros or Pro Bowls 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:51.200 than holding. 0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:54.560 Penalties out there. And he's been like that since day one. 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:58.320 All right, Like my welcome to the League moment happened 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.480 four years after I got to lead by rookie, which 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:03.200 is crazy, And I'm talking about Zach Martin here. 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:05.760 You know we're coming out and nature. You know the cow, 0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:07.280 but they try to do that. You got to earn 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.600 your position. You gotta learn this thing. Man. By day three, 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:11.840 Zach Martin was running with the ones. So I'll never 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:13.920 forget it. Man. We in cover three and in cover 0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:15.520 three the strong safety. You come down. 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.280 You got the force, which means you gotta make the 0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:18.920 running back, cut back inside. 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.440 But just socks. It's a power. 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:24.600 Play, which means the Marko Murray's gonna do his little 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.200 counterstep and it come to the outside. And in power 0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.320 play you also get the guard that pulls as well. 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:32.040 In this situation, it happened to be Zach Martin. So 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:34.080 I'm reading it. I'm like, oh, I got this. I'm 0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:36.320 coming down here. I'm gonna either make this play or 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:38.880 I'm gonna force it back to the rest of my help. 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.480 On a defensive line, I see Zach Martin pulling. 0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:42.000 I'm like, oh, this. 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:43.760 Young rookie, I don't know what the heck is going on, 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:45.840 But as he getting close one, you got a lot 0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.679 ahead of steam. Won't me put my shoulder in there? 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:50.400 At least study him up a little bit. Man, When 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:54.240 I tell you. This man knocked me from the hash marks, 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.680 damn near to the numbers. It was that real a 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.879 that's a long ways. And I remember the old Martin 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.439 sitcom back in the night when Martin would get tossed 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:08.160 and then it'd be like cut to a rag dog man. 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:09.840 That was me, all right, And I'm. 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.920 Like our parallel My feet are parallel to the ground, 0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:16.159 and I'm just in the air. 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:18.560 This dude didn't do me like that. 0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:20.119 So soon as I hit the ground, you know, I 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:22.240 hop back up, Marion Nelle, you know, don't lay on 0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:22.639 the ground. 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:24.320 All my teammates like, yeah. 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.960 Good job forcing it back, Church, good job forcing everything back. 0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.080 Scam all those boys they hyping me. Yeah, yeah, good job. 0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:31.720 So then we get to the. 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:36.960 To the meeting room after practice, you know, no dog club, 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:37.879 and you know what it is. 0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.600 And you know, Garrett, we always talk about it. 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:43.320 He got this damn Garrett vision where he breaks down 0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.240 these plays after practice. 0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.359 So you know, he bring his old laser pin out there, 0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:48.160 he's circling it. 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.080 This is what we want right here, gentlemen, you'll see 0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:51.160 this right here, This is what we want. 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:54.399 Circling that play. He rewounded probably about four or five times. 0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:56.080 This is the physicality we need. 0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:59.120 I'm just flying back and forth every time, and I'm 0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.640 sitting there and I'm. 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:08.960 Mad as hell. Rewind rewind Look this thing back, look 0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.199 right here. Look it looks better at slow. Cut this 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.200 thing back one more time. Be mad. Of course, he 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.040 cut it back one more time. I stood up, and. 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.160 You do that thing again. I'm gonna cut your big ass. 0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:23.520 I'm talking to everybody, start dying, laughing all your his 0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:26.399 feelings now, But nah, it just to bring it back 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.560 to Zach. After all, that is man, This dude is 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.399 the ultimate professional. And I'm glad I was his teammate 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.639 in those early years and you know his play the 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:35.760 rest of his history Hall of Fame career. But man, 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.240 slewte to that man because he's one of those ones. 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:39.600 He's one of the great ones that I've ever seen 0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:40.760 play the game at his position. 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.040 I bet you saluted him. I was in his career. 0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.080 I thought it was bad. I didn't get that hit 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.399 that bad and you hurt. You heard I was parallel 0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:52.679 to the ground. Ain't got the. 0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.040 Tails that way, all right, man, Like, don't be boring 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:56.600 your helmet hitting these guys like that. 0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:58.320 I was sick, But it happened. 0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:03.800 I'm telling you for me like it's personal, because not 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.280 only was it we teammates, but I had to go up 0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.560 against this guy. Not only did I have to go 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:10.680 against him as a teammate, but I got to see 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:11.840 him on the other side. 0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.040 Of the ball when I was at the Johnson. 0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:17.320 So for him to come in and be the guy 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.359 that he is, the Cowboys has this history of lineage 0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:23.040 of going and getting office linemen and getting them while 0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.199 they're young and putting them behind other people. So for 0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.720 him to come in. You got Tyron Smith that everybody's 0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.800 talking about. You got Travis Frederick that they're talking about. 0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:31.680 You got them talking about, Hey, you remember the old 0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:34.520 Cowboys when they had be Waters and them. Oh man, 0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.680 they Larry Allen. They've been moving stuff since, moving stuff. 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.159 And then all of a sudden they talk about Zach Martin, 0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:42.560 he getting drafted there and this and that, and I'm like, 0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.720 ain't over really gonna I don't care what y'all talking about, 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.600 Like I'm about to go in here and sosce him up. 0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:52.400 And when I tell you, I wasn't going against him 0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.000 like that. But when I seen him on film and 0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.000 they said them cross stunts and we had to run 0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.439 a text I was like, oh, snapt as soon as 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.359 I come in here, ain't no rookie gonna touch me. 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:03.600 I came in and when I tell you that boy 0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.359 hit me with a stone wall. And it was like 0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:10.320 like now you walk into a door and then you like, oh, 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:11.200 it's the wrong way. 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:11.720 This is like. 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.399 It was like that, and I had to stop and 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.960 just deva and I was like, yeah, coach, hey, from 0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:20.000 now on, can we do a text stunt please, like 0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.120 make the tackle go for y'all or don't know, make 0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.760 the tackle go first, clean that up, make sure his 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:25.560 hands ain't on me. 0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.040 So I can get here Scott free. And just it's 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:29.080 a testament to him. 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.080 You always had him on the game plan for It's 0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:33.919 very few guys that you come in day one and 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.679 you say, hey, that's the guy that we're watching. He 0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.880 commanded that respect on the line that was with a 0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:45.800 prime Tyron Smith, a prime Travis Frederick. Like he bought 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.160 these guys in and like you said, it's very rare 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.560 that somebody spends their whole career with somebody and for 0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:54.840 you to drop the mic like that, it was like, oh, man, 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.360 seeing them on the other side in that sky report. 0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.960 But when I got here to see who he was, 0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.080 I thought he was going to be nasty. I thought 0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.520 he was going to be violent everything that he was 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.320 on the field. But he was the gentle giant. He 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.440 don't he don't like he said, He don't say much, 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.760 he don't none of the offensive lineman. 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:12.959 Let's get that straight here. 0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.480 The Cowboys talk like that, they've always was the silent killer. 0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:18.400 But to see him and I come over there, joke 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.400 with him and this and that, and he'll just go 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.240 out here, go to practice, go through the motion. But 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.400 then all of a sudden, it's like Goku, he just 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:25.920 turns up out of nowhere and go super Saiyan. 0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.880 It hit you with something you like? My bad bro? 0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:31.640 He just practice, chill out. 0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.800 And so for him to go do that be a 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.480 unanimous Hall of famer one My hat goes off to him. 0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:42.520 I saluted him as a competitor, but I even gained 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.600 a bigger, more found respect for him as a teammate 0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.800 because he really was the last the first guy in 0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.800 the last guy out like him in Tynment, they're all 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.320 pulling up, all the greats they pull up together. They 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.840 taught him that tradition, and not only did they teach 0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.320 him the tradition, he embraced it and took it further 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:02.440 than beyond. Like you said, Perennial Pro Bowl, he's been like, 0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:04.680 how many holding calls does he have in his career? 0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.200 Less than ten digits? And then all on seven holding 0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:12.680 calls in your whole career with the same team, Like, 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.840 that's what everybody. The only thing that he's missing is 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:19.160 a Super Bowl. But as far as like individually wise, 0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.400 he's done that and more. He's like when everybody gave 0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:25.360 their flowers to Aaron Donald and said your generational talent, 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:29.240 that's the same conversation that everybody around the league should 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:30.160 be having about Zach Martin. 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.800 All players are having that, the fan base is having that. 0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:36.320 So for him, salute well done, go into the Ring 0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.560 of Honor, and when you get that gold jacket. Man, 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.560 I just hope they showed me on the highlight tape 0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:42.400 so I can say I was around great. 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:49.400 Go YouTube the Senior Bowl practice between Aaron Donald and. 0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:53.320 Zachly that's crazy, that's crazy to think about. 0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:59.480 I didn't even think about it. Heck, what you got on. Look. 0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.160 I love the fact that a generational player gets an 0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.680 opportunity to get his flowers in real time, and it's 0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.720 done a lot of times. Not a lot of times. 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.920 Great players don't get that. And you know, I just 0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:12.960 go back to draft night when we could have done 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:17.680 much worse and and went Johnny Manziel instead of Zach Martin. 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:21.000 Thank God for all those You're okay, it's okay, it's 0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:24.240 it's you know, it's it's it was a good it 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.000 was one of the best decisions ever made a cowboy. 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.120 You know that that we went Zach Martin. 0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.800 And man, just watching him as you know, when you 0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.640 you understand that you're watching greatness, you're watching the guy 0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:42.640 in real time actually be dominant over other grown men 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.720 playing this game. And you know, my conversations about Zach Martin. 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.560 I've had these conversations with my uncle Joe Green about 0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:51.920 Zach Martin and his eye quote he could have played 0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:52.960 during our time. 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.760 And that's that's something crazy, and that's. 0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.240 Something that you know when I when I've talked to Zach, 0:31:58.320 --> 0:31:59.800 I've told him, Man, look, I got to tell you 0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.600 what uncle said about you, you know, and he's just 0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.160 a great player, great player to watch, a great player. 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.040 When you go back and you watch trench and I've 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.880 always told you, guys, trench warfare. When I'm calling a game, 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.960 I'm watching the trenches. And when I'm watching a game, 0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.520 I'm watching the trenches. And Number seventy has always been 0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.200 that dude that has dominated his one on ones. He's 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.600 dominated when he's pulling. You see guys get to the 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:27.000 carpet when Number seventy is coming. And that's just the 0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:28.960 respect that guys have for you. And when you hear 0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.720 guys like yourselves talking about him, that's echoed all around 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.000 the league. And what the words has been about Zach 0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.760 Martin sou Man. I got ticked off last season when 0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:41.920 he was getting a lot of criticism and it was 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:46.040 only because of who he has been consistently as a pro. 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:52.440 So man, that's yeah, right there, you hit it. That's 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.800 what makes this so great right now because the flac 0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.560 that he did get last year and like to see everybody, 0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.080 we know it's a turn turn lead for him to 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.239 immediately announce that retirement and get his flowers, it's like 0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.720 it's a full circle moment, like, oh, y'all really do 0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.479 love me, y'all do appreciate me, Like as a player, 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:14.400 that's great, but then not the one thing that we're 0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.200 talking about him as a player. But I think we 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.440 all four can agree on this, not only as great 0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:22.560 of a player, he is the person, the human being 0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.800 like knowing him and how he embraces everybody from top 0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.320 to bottom on that roster, no matter if you're Ezekiel 0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.960 Elliott or if you're a journeyman like me, like he 0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.200 gives your flowers. D Moore, you made that play Church, 0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:37.280 you did this like he gives his credit. Doesn't talk much, 0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:41.280 but his personality, it's very rare. Do you meet somebody 0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.800 that is great like that but will be humble enough 0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:45.280 to talk to everybody and do that too. 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:46.920 So that's why I'm. 0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:50.800 Saying it is he deserves it. When you say that 0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:52.920 certain people deserve it, I'm glad. 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:54.840 He's getting in it. So yeah, I just had to 0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:55.840 throw that too. Sit in there. 0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:57.880 Clarence Hill thought had a good point yesterday on the 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:02.000 media Mash and Beat right where he said Zach Martin 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:06.560 is the best Cowboys player in organization. 0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.840 Post Super Bowl, post their Super. 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.120 Bowl wins, And we kind of thought about it, and 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:16.920 we did bring up DeMarcus Ware's name, but I sided 0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:21.520 with Clarence because I said, Rare is the talent where 0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.920 not only when he's retiring, he's going to the Hall 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:27.759 of Fame. You can argue he is one of the 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:32.520 top five at his position to ever play that position 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:34.040 in this league. 0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.720 And you know how don that get tough when people 0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.439 have recency bias and or they don't know about those 0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.800 that played before him. But when it comes down to 0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.640 Zach Martin, none of that even comes into play. 0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.279 Everybody agrees with what you just said. 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:49.480 Yeah, yeah, and you were talking about one of the 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:53.520 top five guards in his history that have ever played 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:58.120 this game. He is there in the mix and it's phenomenal. 0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:00.960 So congratulations to him. Five years. 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:01.560 He will go. 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.760 Whether it's Sharene Williams or whoever's going to make the 0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:09.120 presentation with Jack Martin, I think it's pretty easy. Zach 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:13.040 Martin eleven years, uh nine Pro Bowls, seven and first 0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:19.240 Team All pros out keep going, no, no, that's it, 0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:21.399 I present Zach Martin. 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His player's 0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.359 lines just brought you by Aristocrat game. Got buried tu 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:59.880 Trey Moore here? I am knew he scruggs. So yeah, 0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:03.160 I saw Michael Parson's maps ball on Sunday. 0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.040 And he likes. 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.080 To tweet a lot of stuff. But ultimately my thought 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:10.640 is this, and you guys tell me everything. 0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:16.040 He's gonna be here. He likes being here, yeah he 0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:20.160 I mean I don't. And he's going to get paid. Yeah, 0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.879 first of we know what's didn't get paid. But overall, 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:24.920 he likes this scene. 0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.320 He likes this, he likes the way he's treated, he 0:38:27.520 --> 0:38:29.600 likes being a star, likes he likes it here. 0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:31.319 Yeah, star likes the star. 0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.800 It's a difference being a superstar here in now versus 0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:38.560 being a superstar anywhere else. Yeah, Mike's gonna get the bag. 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:42.520 You saw Max Crosby contract come through yesterday and he like, Yeah, 0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.879 if Max Crosby got that, then obviously you know what 0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:48.160 Micah's gonna get. And I would have thought that the 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.520 organization would have done Michaeh's contract before OS's. But fine, 0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.160 you see them clearing out, restructuring and all that with 0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:57.480 CD and now DAK, and they're clearing up money, maybe 0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.960 clearing up money not only for Michaeh, butffer move coming 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.239 ahead because they have to make a splash, because you've 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.920 said it before, there are too many holes to feel. 0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.880 And if you're gonna give coach Schottenheimer a chance this season, 0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:12.120 you're gonna have to give him some dogs, some people 0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.320 to operate with. And there are a ton of names 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.319 that have been cut that I've already in our group chat, 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:20.319 I've thrown names around. I'm getting shot down, but that's 0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.440 all right, that's all right. Something's gonna happen. Some's gonna give. 0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:26.200 But michaels I got Michael's I got and if and 0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:28.000 if you're gonna go as far as to some of 0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.279 these other guys that we've seen get paid, and you said, 0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.680 as you stated, Jerry doesn't lose on getting his guys, 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.239 anyone that he wants to sign. I believe Michael's in 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.920 that list of superstars that he wants to sign. He 0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.840 wants to have here, wants him to retire as a 0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:45.120 Dallas cowboy. And look, I just think as far as 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.640 this defense is concerned with coach ibra Flus, you want 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:50.520 all of that. You want to bring in the guys 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:52.920 in the draft, but also get guys during free agency 0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.120 so you can ramp up this defense because last last season, 0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.840 look this is a wash. You didn't get any production 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.480 from that. Michael was hurt for a lot of the 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:05.239 majority of the season. But look, I look for them 0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.680 to get that contract taken care of because you. 0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:08.120 Have to. 0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:14.439 Is playing for Ebra Flues, you have to get it done. 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.200 Think about it. When his time at the Coats, you 0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:22.040 had DeForest Buckner, you quidy p you had a tie 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:24.719 that was on the outside like you had a superstar, 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.879 and then you had somebody consistently you locked it up with. Oh, 0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.480 now you have to lock it up with a generational 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.720 talent and Michael, And like you said, the star loves 0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.319 the star, like he gets everything that he wants with 0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.759 his media, broadcasting and stuff like that. And then on 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:40.759 top of that, I think you kind of feed off 0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.879 of the he's finally turned that corner to where it's 0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:46.200 like the media doesn't bother him, Like he's learning to 0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.360 make the media work for him. So like all the 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.960 stars that are lining, and then when you go schematically wise, 0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:54.040 like you got your consistent guy, you got somebody that's 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:55.920 dependable on Oh, right here that's going to do that. 0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.000 It's going to free this up for me. I'm gonna 0:40:58.040 --> 0:40:58.560 still do that. 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:00.960 So like you said, Jerry doesn't miss on this guys, 0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.400 he never does, even when it's always been a question 0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:06.480 Daz Oh, when you're gonna pay Daz Brian, Hey, when 0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.040 are you gonna pay Zach Martin, when you're gonna play 0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.040 Ezekiel Ellen, when you're gonna pay dak His guys get 0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:14.440 that bag. So Michael's gonna get the back. It's just 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.439 about how much of a bag he's gonna get. Because 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.520 the longer you prolong that, the more expensive it get. 0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:22.920 Just like and you don't want to have those feelings. 0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:25.560 And this is just me speaking from a fan's perspective. 0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:27.640 You don't want to have those feelings with the Oas 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:30.080 or the Dak Prescott. Like, oh man, if we'd have 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.759 just paid Dak two years ago, we wouldn't be sitting 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.560 over here restructuring his contract. If we to pay Ezekiel 0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:37.719 a couple of years ago, maybe he wouldn't have held 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:39.560 out and went to Cabo and we could have seen 0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:42.520 the com zeke that went there. So that's my only 0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.720 thing is like not at all? Got it show Michael 0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:47.640 the love and the respect that he needs to make 0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:49.879 him more motivated to be here, because he already wants 0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:50.399 to be here. 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:51.960 But you need to add that gas. 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.520 In the celerant. So it's just about when is it 0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:56.200 gonna happen? And then because if you keep waiting and 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.919 that price keep going up, Max just got his bag, 0:41:59.000 --> 0:41:59.600 well guess what. 0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:01.320 He might not need the Max. 0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.640 Deal, but he needs to be somewhere in that ballpark 0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:05.319 or it is going to be a disrespect. And now 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:07.840 but you having to pay him because we know Jerry's 0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:09.759 gonna do it. Are you going to be able to 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:11.360 get the rest of those dogs. Are you gonna be 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.320 able to go fix the other side of the trenches? 0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.880 Are you gonna lock up only two star players on 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.279 your defensive line like that? 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.560 That's where it gets a little danger and Dicey. 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.040 Yeah, he's gonna get paid. He has to with Eberflus defense. 0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.200 You know a lot of zone they rush for. You 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.880 gotta have somebody get he. 0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:28.720 Get in this defense. 0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.800 If you don't, then you're not gonna get any pressure 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:32.880 on the quarterback and his defense is gonna get picked alive. 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:34.560 So the deal is gonna get done. 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.000 It's just a matter of when and what the amount 0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.359 is is gonna be And I see him being one 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.920 of the highest non paid quarterbacks in the National Football League. 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.000 That'd be Max Crosby. For two weeks, He'll be Yeah, 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:50.160 two weeks Max and play and Max will be just fine. 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.640 I'm I'm gonna tell you like this, them state taxes 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.359 over here and him getting a bigger bag. It's gonna 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.280 look better for Michael though. So Hey, slow and steady 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:01.879 wins the race. 0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:03.120 Heckman, Harrison, what's up? Bro? 0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:06.799 Appreciate you, trade more, appreciate your church, Appreciate you, Chris 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:08.719 bean Green, everybody here. 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.520 Do that don't do that. I don't ever do that 0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:11.799 to you. 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:12.040 Though. 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.719 This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:21.680 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.