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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Heckma Harrison, de Montrey Moore,

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Speaker 1: and Newie Scruggs.

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Speaker 2: It is that time, everybody.

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Speaker 4: Slay Supership, Yeah, I see the Philly Dalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: He just joined squad. Other boys? Are you serious? We're

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Speaker 2: gonna do this, y'all know, like he did, go ahead

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Speaker 2: and introduce the rest of.

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Speaker 5: The going around around Maggy form a cowboy got buried

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Speaker 5: Church for a cowboy, I struggs.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right boy, I'm crazy man.

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Speaker 2: Let me take my head off.

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Speaker 5: Y'all don really like that. I'm like, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 5: stop wearing my green. Okay, this is my this is

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Speaker 5: my uni. Okay, you've been rocking green for about the week,

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Speaker 5: you know, ever since at one.

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Speaker 2: Store the bird hold on give him so much. I

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Speaker 2: don't know that they don't know about the time. I

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Speaker 2: don't know nothing about the time. You don't know nothing

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Speaker 2: about exactly. This is your own. Don't leave his own

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Speaker 2: more fans.

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Speaker 6: He's not there no more so. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 6: now you're a saint. Guys, what they got?

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Speaker 2: How much money do they have? Here's a new bag.

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Speaker 2: You get a bag. You get a bag, You get

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Speaker 2: a bag.

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Speaker 5: Mars was not he saw the bag, so the SAQ

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Speaker 5: one bag? Was we going to the courthouse? No ceremony needed,

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Speaker 5: No we going to the courthouse. Don't even worry about it.

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Speaker 5: We ain't gonna make this mistake. Go ahead, and this,

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Speaker 5: this is the first mistake we made. We're gonna re

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Speaker 5: up this because we already know how we got to

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Speaker 5: the super Bowl was on them legs.

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Speaker 2: Speak on it, okay, what he say back in the day,

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Speaker 2: we got some good thing here.

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Speaker 6: When you got a good thing, you gotta lock it

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Speaker 6: down right away.

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Speaker 2: No need to know. You just show up at Auntie.

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Speaker 2: How you be like? I didn't know y'all was married to.

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Speaker 5: The How is my man in New York still have

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Speaker 5: a job? Man?

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Speaker 2: What was his name? Martin?

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Speaker 5: That mar.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you how you got a job.

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Speaker 6: His son, you've seen his son made the calling who

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Speaker 6: he said he should have drafted, and look what happened.

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Speaker 6: He said. They said, hey, you listen to your son.

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Speaker 6: Take this pic this year your last struct should be

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Speaker 6: listening to it.

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Speaker 5: Joe Shane, Giants, Jim got Let's be nice, must be nice,

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Speaker 5: must be nice?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: How many?

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Speaker 5: How many times can you make a mistake and you

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Speaker 5: see it pay off on another team?

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Speaker 2: You see.

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Speaker 5: Where is Daniel Joe? He's somebody back up? Dis Wow,

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Speaker 5: you hate to see it.

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Speaker 7: Damn Joe always like, hey there's Nico. Wow, exactly, get

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Speaker 7: it out, get off.

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Speaker 2: It can always be worse. It can all you know

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Speaker 2: the Murphy's law.

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Speaker 5: The Murphy's law is it relates to the MAVs is

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Speaker 5: never mind, not gonna do this.

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Speaker 2: It's a different day, different day, different show. Let's go,

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Speaker 2: let's go.

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Speaker 3: Because somebody brought up Nico Harrison and I said, you

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Speaker 3: see the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Gym said, y'all will go. Spike guy. His owner was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm mad if I see him in Philly.

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Speaker 3: So not only did you see him in Philly, you

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Speaker 3: saw him running up and down against you and Philly

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Speaker 3: see the guy hoisting the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: You know that historic historic was.

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Speaker 3: That's what's happening in the NFC East with the team

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Speaker 3: that won the division and then the team also made

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Speaker 3: the wild card whose former coaches Dan Quinn, who's former

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinators, former assistant Joe Witt Jr.

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Speaker 2: They went out and got Deebo Samuel's a wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: They got gifted depot gifted gift for thank you, that's.

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Speaker 2: The fourth You're just not gonna let that go. Hell,

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Speaker 2: you just.

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Speaker 5: Half catches. Oh wow, But that was That's why That's

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Speaker 5: why I say it was gifted. That's why I say

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Speaker 5: it was gifted because it's like a fifth for a

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Speaker 5: fifth of Debo in that offense. I don't care what

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Speaker 5: happened with Debo overweight. All that he's gonna be in

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Speaker 5: shape when he show up for for OTA's. He gonna

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Speaker 5: be in shape with that first game of the season.

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Speaker 5: I mean, can you imagine with that with what they

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Speaker 5: have offensively already, and to mix in Deebo Samuels with that,

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's about to get spooky.

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Speaker 6: They just gave They just gave Cliff Kingsbury de bo

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Speaker 6: yar Bro. You know how it is when you get cut,

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Speaker 6: you get cut, you go to a new it's that

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Speaker 6: new fresh.

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Speaker 2: Grad like I gotta go, I gotta go.

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Speaker 6: Let my old girlfriend know, Hey, I got this line up,

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Speaker 6: Chris got it.

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Speaker 2: I'm here.

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Speaker 6: Debo is about to come over there. And if he

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Speaker 6: comes back in peak performance, and add.

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Speaker 5: That he doesn't have to be the number one guy,

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Speaker 5: he don't have to. But you got scary Terry out there.

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Speaker 2: You can double everything, Hayden, you can't double everybody. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be interesting. They're gonna be able to spread the field.

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Speaker 3: They definitely so their their general manager in Washington was

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Speaker 3: in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: So Adam Peters, Yes, shout out to my dog.

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Speaker 3: He has he has a knowledge of what Samuel can do.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 3: But but notice it when when I was reading social media,

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Speaker 3: I know if you caught some of the comments, people

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Speaker 3: were trying to defend cowboys and saying that, hey, you

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Speaker 3: know you got him for a five because of the money.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, it's not it's not. It's not apples

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Speaker 3: to apples, and Mingo was on a low contract and

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Speaker 3: mainly were fighting fighting Clarence hill Man.

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Speaker 2: You know what, look sometimes you just read it, have

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Speaker 2: an opinion.

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Speaker 3: I just read Cowboy fans that were trying to say, no,

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Speaker 3: it's wrong, and clans you can't say it's the same.

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Speaker 3: But what your initial reaction is A fifth Mingo four,

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Speaker 3: make it make sense? And Cowboy fan several of them

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Speaker 3: were saying because Mingo's younger, cheaper, therefore the pick was higher,

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Speaker 3: have have not yeah, versus proven player who's been to

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Speaker 3: Super Bowls.

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Speaker 2: Two, they gotta pick up twenty two on it, right?

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Speaker 2: Twenty two is that that's not.

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Speaker 5: That's not a crazy number for a extremely solid See

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Speaker 5: I ain't gonna say he's, you know, top three, top five,

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Speaker 5: but he's an extremely solid receiver out there.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two, that's that's not a bad deal.

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Speaker 5: But what I think, what I think, just piggybacking on that,

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Speaker 5: is I believe that he's in the league of his

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Speaker 5: own as far as how he can transform from a

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Speaker 5: slot to a running back.

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Speaker 2: He's dangerous in that way.

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Speaker 5: Short yardage guy, and that's what that's what the commanders

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Speaker 5: are getting. And that's why it's like when you're sitting

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Speaker 5: back as a Cowboy fans like, damn, it's embarrassment of riches.

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Speaker 5: You get debo for the commanders in the way that

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Speaker 5: now he's able to maneuver in that offense. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the NFC East is gonna be often. It's changed very offensively.

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Speaker 5: You better get you better get your defensives ready. Uh

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Speaker 5: if you're in the NFC's is that why they paid

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Speaker 5: uh Od's us so much?

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Speaker 6: Because they've seen all the weapons that are coming to

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Speaker 6: the place. You know, it's solidified defense. I was hoping

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Speaker 6: you was gonna tell me, you tell me. I mean

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Speaker 6: to be honest with you. It's no slack to him.

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Speaker 6: He looking at his numbers. He's dependable, he's been there,

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Speaker 6: he's been a starter since he's been here consistently.

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Speaker 2: You're young, and what from.

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Speaker 6: What I'm hearing about his leadership in the locker room

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Speaker 6: that you can't keep letting all your talent go. Now,

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Speaker 6: does he deserve the bag and this and that? I

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Speaker 6: think he definitely deserves the bag. And if he didn't

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Speaker 6: get it here, he was going to get that somewhere else.

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Speaker 6: So like the Cowboys was like, hey, lock it up now.

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Speaker 6: The only other thing about that is you got Mic

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Speaker 6: on the other side. If I'm looking at Mike, if

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Speaker 6: I'm Michaeh, I'm calling my agent and be like, hey,

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Speaker 6: I know we say we're gonna make this work and

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Speaker 6: build this team up, but uh that the bag just

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Speaker 6: got bigger. If that made sense, If you paid him that,

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Speaker 6: what does that say about me? And if you come

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Speaker 6: anywhere close to that number what you gave him for

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Speaker 6: what I've done and the accolades that I've already proven,

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Speaker 6: I'm feeling slighted as a player. But then that also

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Speaker 6: goes to see, we're gonna find out how are you

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Speaker 6: really a team guy?

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Speaker 2: If that makes sense.

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Speaker 6: So as far as paying him, I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: did right by solidifying a defense that when if you

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Speaker 6: don't know if you can afford Micah and if he's

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Speaker 6: gonna go, then yes, like don't let all my horses

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Speaker 6: leave the stable. I think it was a desperate move,

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Speaker 6: but you know what, they were desperate.

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Speaker 3: Steven Jones talked about it yesterday the press. Come, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we didn't, he said, if we don't have anybody else

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Speaker 3: after Osis, Mazi, Mazi Mazi, That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: So if anything.

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Speaker 3: Olso to me left money on the table by not

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Speaker 3: going to free agency.

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Speaker 2: He definitely did.

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Speaker 6: But that lets you know that one first of all,

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Speaker 6: you're in Dallas America's team. If you get paid the

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Speaker 6: money here off the field, all that stuff is gonna

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Speaker 6: be something. But did he really leave money on the table.

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Speaker 6: He left money. He could have caught a couple extra ten,

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Speaker 6: maybe twenty somewhere else or something like that. Or he

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Speaker 6: desperate as they are, which.

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Speaker 2: I felt like he did strong gardment.

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Speaker 6: That's why the number is like when everybody when that contract,

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Speaker 6: everybody knew he was gonna get paid, but when the

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Speaker 6: numbers came out, everybody was like, you don't think he

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Speaker 6: was back there? He said, Hey, I'm gonna loosen up

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Speaker 6: this niggie on you real quick and go ahead and

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Speaker 6: take that discount.

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Speaker 2: And so great job for him. I think they overpaid him.

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Speaker 6: I think they should have let him walk because you

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Speaker 6: could have spent that money elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: You gotta pay Micah and then.

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Speaker 6: Potentially was going to be out there at this upcoming

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Speaker 6: free agency with all the trades and stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I'll disagree with you.

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Speaker 3: And I said, from this standpoint, you let him walk away,

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Speaker 3: who are you replacing him with. We haven't seen a

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Speaker 3: plan that said, hey this person is you know if

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Speaker 3: ibra Flus had somebody in mind or the team being known,

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Speaker 3: you got to float out there.

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Speaker 2: It would Hey, there's interest here. You didn't hear that,

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Speaker 6: Even though you didn't, you didn't hear that, you still

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Speaker 3: Tell me the last guy Jerry Wanton who didn't get

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Speaker 3: No, who is the last guy where they I mean

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Speaker 3: Well, he's going to be the fourth No that everybody

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Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying. Once you set the market,

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Speaker 6: With this money, you're gonna set the market with Michael

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Speaker 5: I think when the Cowboys came to the table with

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Speaker 5: because free agency. Free agency is about to start. That

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Speaker 5: I mean, excuse me, my Mazie is all that you have.

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Speaker 5: And if you're gonna point to that, then obviously that

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Speaker 5: in these first three picks that you have where what

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Speaker 6: So who would have been out there on free agency?

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Speaker 2: It's the perfect storm. We all know it.

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Speaker 6: There are players that we feel that don't deserve it,

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Speaker 2: Who are you really going to be bringing that's that

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Speaker 6: And that's dependable and you know what you're getting, because

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Speaker 5: But de Montreal we got thirty one other teams that

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Speaker 5: you can see that are making moves that don't just

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Speaker 6: Yeah, make a move, make a move. And this was

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Speaker 6: was it the right move that a lot of fans wanted? No,

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Speaker 6: But in the eyes, you can't be mad because now

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Speaker 6: saying for a year. Go get your guy, do it

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Speaker 6: right now, and pay that guy. And when it came

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Speaker 2: Once again, they waited too late. Yeah, the time to

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Speaker 7: It definitely was with other players you could have got well,

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Speaker 2: You could have got him at a cheaper price last year.

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Speaker 3: But going into you know, you wanted to make a

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Speaker 2: And you wanted to take care of Dak and see

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Speaker 3: The price went up, and we can debate all day like, hey, man, no,

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Speaker 3: it's ain't.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Donell Part two, Chris Jones, You no, no, but.

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Speaker 3: You need a defensive tackle. You didn't have anything else.

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Speaker 3: And before you let him walk out of the door

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Speaker 3: Because ebra Flus needs and this defense. You need this player.

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Speaker 3: So therefore the value of the player for them that

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Speaker 2: Yea perfect storm.

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Speaker 3: And exactly perfect storm. So he was a free agent,

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Speaker 3: he had a great year, he was healthy. You bring

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Speaker 6: The demand, Hey, why that's why if I understand why

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Speaker 2: In an eber Flu's defense.

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Speaker 6: That like the wife front is the four demon lineman.

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Speaker 6: All this about it is just penetration. Can you cause gap?

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Speaker 6: And if that guy is that guy, it's like, oh man,

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Speaker 6: I'm about to be making plays, I'm about to be

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Speaker 6: to have the opportunity and once again here on America's team.

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Speaker 6: The tension that's going to be there to you, the pressure.

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Speaker 6: If I'm him, I'm like, hey, this is one I'm

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Speaker 2: Pressure. Make diamonds a bus pipes.

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Speaker 7: Right now, and no state taxes exactly, exactly, a perfect

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Speaker 7: the perfect perfect storm.

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Speaker 5: You hit free agency at a time where the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: desperately needed a defensive tackle. You hit a high mark

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Speaker 5: twenty something a year. No state tax isn't for him,

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Speaker 5: It's I'm good. I ain't got to move my house.

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Speaker 5: We get a bigger house outside looking at we ain't

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Speaker 5: part of the organization outside looking in, man, did they

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Speaker 5: feel the need?

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Speaker 2: Did they?

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Speaker 5: Because if you look at the rest of the division,

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Speaker 5: for being completely honest, that's what we do here on

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Speaker 5: They got that big Boyonaire as well in the New

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Speaker 5: here with the Dallas cow because that's not mister you said.

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Speaker 5: He had a great year. He was also part of

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Speaker 5: I'm just just just play alone. I'm just looking at

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm definitely there with you.

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Speaker 6: But like you said, I can't let everything go when

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Speaker 6: That's why I asked you, I said, I don't think

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Speaker 2: But then it's like you're rolling the dice. He really

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Speaker 6: Hey, I'm telling you right now, I be mad if

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Speaker 5: You think so he could, and you're talking about you're

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446
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Speaker 1: To the players Lounge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out there to give me some good.

462
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 5: Get brisket, Yes, brisket, to smoke out, brisket.

463
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: Baby you got teaching? They won't, No, they won't, baby chicken.

464
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 2: Oh I was trying, Zach. I give my board last

465
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 2: I love it, I love it. I love it regularly.

466
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Speaker 2: May know why, Baby Tech, Maharrison, tray more Bury.

467
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Speaker 3: Church, brought you by Aristocrat Gaming. Where is it in

468
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 3: today's professional sport? A player retires and everyone, everyone unanimously says,

469
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Speaker 3: first ballot, Hall of Fame. We don't even it's just boom,

470
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 3: Mike drop, Hall of next stop.

471
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. That happened yesterday at the Star.

472
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 3: When Zach Martin retired from the Dallas Cowboys and Barry Church, Treymore.

473
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 3: You all played with one Zach Martin, number seventy, So

474
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 3: I'll turn the floor over to you.

475
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: Now.

476
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had the pleasure of being Zach's teammate for

477
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 5: three year his first three years in the league before

478
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 5: I went to Jacksonville. And you know, you hear it

479
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 5: all the time, kind of corny coach talk about, you know,

480
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 5: first in the room, last the league, you know, the

481
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 5: hardest working. But this is true when you talk about

482
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 5: Zach Martin and exactly what he personified as a professional

483
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 5: out there.

484
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: He wasn't a big raw rock guy that you know,

485
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: bring up the troops Cowboys on three. You know we're

486
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 2: gonna do that. He wasn't that.

487
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 5: He was a lead by example, and he showed each

488
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 5: and every one of those young guys behind him how

489
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 5: to be great when you go out there. I mean,

490
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 5: the guy has more with all Pros or Pro Bowls

491
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 5: than holding.

492
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 2: Penalties out there. And he's been like that since day one.

493
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 5: All right, Like my welcome to the League moment happened

494
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 5: four years after I got to lead by rookie, which

495
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 5: is crazy, And I'm talking about Zach Martin here.

496
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Speaker 2: You know we're coming out and nature. You know the cow,

497
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: but they try to do that. You got to earn

498
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: your position. You gotta learn this thing. Man. By day three,

499
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: Zach Martin was running with the ones. So I'll never

500
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: forget it. Man. We in cover three and in cover

501
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: three the strong safety. You come down.

502
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 5: You got the force, which means you gotta make the

503
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 5: running back, cut back inside.

504
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: But just socks. It's a power.

505
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 5: Play, which means the Marko Murray's gonna do his little

506
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 5: counterstep and it come to the outside. And in power

507
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 5: play you also get the guard that pulls as well.

508
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 5: In this situation, it happened to be Zach Martin. So

509
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 5: I'm reading it. I'm like, oh, I got this. I'm

510
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 5: coming down here. I'm gonna either make this play or

511
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna force it back to the rest of my help.

512
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 5: On a defensive line, I see Zach Martin pulling.

513
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this.

514
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 5: Young rookie, I don't know what the heck is going on,

515
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 5: But as he getting close one, you got a lot

516
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 5: ahead of steam. Won't me put my shoulder in there?

517
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 5: At least study him up a little bit. Man, When

518
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 5: I tell you. This man knocked me from the hash marks,

519
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 5: damn near to the numbers. It was that real a

520
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 5: that's a long ways. And I remember the old Martin

521
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 5: sitcom back in the night when Martin would get tossed

522
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 5: and then it'd be like cut to a rag dog man.

523
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: That was me, all right, And I'm.

524
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 5: Like our parallel My feet are parallel to the ground,

525
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 5: and I'm just in the air.

526
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: This dude didn't do me like that.

527
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 5: So soon as I hit the ground, you know, I

528
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 5: hop back up, Marion Nelle, you know, don't lay on

529
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 5: the ground.

530
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: All my teammates like, yeah.

531
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 5: Good job forcing it back, Church, good job forcing everything back.

532
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: Scam all those boys they hyping me. Yeah, yeah, good job.

533
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: So then we get to the.

534
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 5: To the meeting room after practice, you know, no dog club,

535
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 5: and you know what it is.

536
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: And you know, Garrett, we always talk about it.

537
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 5: He got this damn Garrett vision where he breaks down

538
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 5: these plays after practice.

539
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: So you know, he bring his old laser pin out there,

540
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: he's circling it.

541
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 5: This is what we want right here, gentlemen, you'll see

542
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 5: this right here, This is what we want.

543
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: Circling that play. He rewounded probably about four or five times.

544
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: This is the physicality we need.

545
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 5: I'm just flying back and forth every time, and I'm

546
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 5: sitting there and I'm.

547
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: Mad as hell. Rewind rewind Look this thing back, look

548
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 2: right here. Look it looks better at slow. Cut this

549
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: thing back one more time. Be mad. Of course, he

550
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: cut it back one more time. I stood up, and.

551
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 5: You do that thing again. I'm gonna cut your big ass.

552
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 5: I'm talking to everybody, start dying, laughing all your his

553
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 5: feelings now, But nah, it just to bring it back

554
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 5: to Zach. After all, that is man, This dude is

555
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 5: the ultimate professional. And I'm glad I was his teammate

556
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 5: in those early years and you know his play the

557
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 5: rest of his history Hall of Fame career. But man,

558
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 5: slewte to that man because he's one of those ones.

559
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 5: He's one of the great ones that I've ever seen

560
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 5: play the game at his position.

561
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: I bet you saluted him. I was in his career.

562
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: I thought it was bad. I didn't get that hit

563
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: that bad and you hurt. You heard I was parallel

564
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: to the ground. Ain't got the.

565
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 5: Tails that way, all right, man, Like, don't be boring

566
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: your helmet hitting these guys like that.

567
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: I was sick, But it happened.

568
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Speaker 6: I'm telling you for me like it's personal, because not

569
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 6: only was it we teammates, but I had to go up

570
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 6: against this guy. Not only did I have to go

571
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 6: against him as a teammate, but I got to see

572
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 6: him on the other side.

573
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: Of the ball when I was at the Johnson.

574
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 6: So for him to come in and be the guy

575
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 6: that he is, the Cowboys has this history of lineage

576
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 6: of going and getting office linemen and getting them while

577
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 6: they're young and putting them behind other people. So for

578
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 6: him to come in. You got Tyron Smith that everybody's

579
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 6: talking about. You got Travis Frederick that they're talking about.

580
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 6: You got them talking about, Hey, you remember the old

581
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 6: Cowboys when they had be Waters and them. Oh man,

582
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 6: they Larry Allen. They've been moving stuff since, moving stuff.

583
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden they talk about Zach Martin,

584
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 6: he getting drafted there and this and that, and I'm like,

585
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 6: ain't over really gonna I don't care what y'all talking about,

586
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 6: Like I'm about to go in here and sosce him up.

587
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 6: And when I tell you, I wasn't going against him

588
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 6: like that. But when I seen him on film and

589
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 6: they said them cross stunts and we had to run

590
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 6: a text I was like, oh, snapt as soon as

591
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 6: I come in here, ain't no rookie gonna touch me.

592
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 6: I came in and when I tell you that boy

593
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 6: hit me with a stone wall. And it was like

594
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 6: like now you walk into a door and then you like, oh,

595
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 6: it's the wrong way.

596
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: This is like.

597
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 6: It was like that, and I had to stop and

598
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 6: just deva and I was like, yeah, coach, hey, from

599
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 6: now on, can we do a text stunt please, like

600
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 6: make the tackle go for y'all or don't know, make

601
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 6: the tackle go first, clean that up, make sure his

602
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 6: hands ain't on me.

603
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: So I can get here Scott free. And just it's

604
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: a testament to him.

605
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 6: You always had him on the game plan for It's

606
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 6: very few guys that you come in day one and

607
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 6: you say, hey, that's the guy that we're watching. He

608
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 6: commanded that respect on the line that was with a

609
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 6: prime Tyron Smith, a prime Travis Frederick. Like he bought

610
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 6: these guys in and like you said, it's very rare

611
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 6: that somebody spends their whole career with somebody and for

612
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 6: you to drop the mic like that, it was like, oh, man,

613
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 6: seeing them on the other side in that sky report.

614
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 6: But when I got here to see who he was,

615
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 6: I thought he was going to be nasty. I thought

616
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 6: he was going to be violent everything that he was

617
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 6: on the field. But he was the gentle giant. He

618
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 6: don't he don't like he said, He don't say much,

619
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 6: he don't none of the offensive lineman.

620
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 2: Let's get that straight here.

621
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 6: The Cowboys talk like that, they've always was the silent killer.

622
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 6: But to see him and I come over there, joke

623
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: with him and this and that, and he'll just go

624
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 6: out here, go to practice, go through the motion. But

625
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 6: then all of a sudden, it's like Goku, he just

626
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 6: turns up out of nowhere and go super Saiyan.

627
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: It hit you with something you like? My bad bro?

628
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: He just practice, chill out.

629
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 6: And so for him to go do that be a

630
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 6: unanimous Hall of famer one My hat goes off to him.

631
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 6: I saluted him as a competitor, but I even gained

632
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 6: a bigger, more found respect for him as a teammate

633
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 6: because he really was the last the first guy in

634
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 6: the last guy out like him in Tynment, they're all

635
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 6: pulling up, all the greats they pull up together. They

636
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 6: taught him that tradition, and not only did they teach

637
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 6: him the tradition, he embraced it and took it further

638
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 6: than beyond. Like you said, Perennial Pro Bowl, he's been like,

639
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 6: how many holding calls does he have in his career?

640
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 6: Less than ten digits? And then all on seven holding

641
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 6: calls in your whole career with the same team, Like,

642
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 6: that's what everybody. The only thing that he's missing is

643
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl. But as far as like individually wise,

644
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 6: he's done that and more. He's like when everybody gave

645
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 6: their flowers to Aaron Donald and said your generational talent,

646
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 6: that's the same conversation that everybody around the league should

647
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 6: be having about Zach Martin.

648
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: All players are having that, the fan base is having that.

649
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 6: So for him, salute well done, go into the Ring

650
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 6: of Honor, and when you get that gold jacket. Man,

651
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 6: I just hope they showed me on the highlight tape

652
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 6: so I can say I was around great.

653
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: Go YouTube the Senior Bowl practice between Aaron Donald and.

654
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 6: Zachly that's crazy, that's crazy to think about.

655
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about it. Heck, what you got on. Look.

656
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: I love the fact that a generational player gets an

657
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 5: opportunity to get his flowers in real time, and it's

658
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: done a lot of times. Not a lot of times.

659
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Speaker 5: Great players don't get that. And you know, I just

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Speaker 5: go back to draft night when we could have done

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Speaker 5: much worse and and went Johnny Manziel instead of Zach Martin.

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Speaker 5: Thank God for all those You're okay, it's okay, it's

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Speaker 5: it's you know, it's it's it was a good it

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Speaker 5: was one of the best decisions ever made a cowboy.

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Speaker 2: You know that that we went Zach Martin.

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Speaker 5: And man, just watching him as you know, when you

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Speaker 5: you understand that you're watching greatness, you're watching the guy

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Speaker 5: in real time actually be dominant over other grown men

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Speaker 5: playing this game. And you know, my conversations about Zach Martin.

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Speaker 5: I've had these conversations with my uncle Joe Green about

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Speaker 5: Zach Martin and his eye quote he could have played

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Speaker 5: during our time.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's something crazy, and that's.

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Speaker 5: Something that you know when I when I've talked to Zach,

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Speaker 5: I've told him, Man, look, I got to tell you

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Speaker 5: what uncle said about you, you know, and he's just

677
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 5: a great player, great player to watch, a great player.

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Speaker 5: When you go back and you watch trench and I've

679
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: always told you, guys, trench warfare. When I'm calling a game,

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Speaker 5: I'm watching the trenches. And when I'm watching a game,

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Speaker 5: I'm watching the trenches. And Number seventy has always been

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Speaker 5: that dude that has dominated his one on ones. He's

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Speaker 5: dominated when he's pulling. You see guys get to the

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Speaker 5: carpet when Number seventy is coming. And that's just the

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Speaker 5: respect that guys have for you. And when you hear

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Speaker 5: guys like yourselves talking about him, that's echoed all around

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Speaker 5: the league. And what the words has been about Zach

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Speaker 5: Martin sou Man. I got ticked off last season when

689
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Speaker 5: he was getting a lot of criticism and it was

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Speaker 5: only because of who he has been consistently as a pro.

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Speaker 5: So man, that's yeah, right there, you hit it. That's

692
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Speaker 5: what makes this so great right now because the flac

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Speaker 5: that he did get last year and like to see everybody,

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Speaker 5: we know it's a turn turn lead for him to

695
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Speaker 5: immediately announce that retirement and get his flowers, it's like

696
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 5: it's a full circle moment, like, oh, y'all really do

697
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Speaker 5: love me, y'all do appreciate me, Like as a player,

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Speaker 5: that's great, but then not the one thing that we're

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Speaker 5: talking about him as a player. But I think we

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Speaker 5: all four can agree on this, not only as great

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Speaker 5: of a player, he is the person, the human being

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Speaker 5: like knowing him and how he embraces everybody from top

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Speaker 5: to bottom on that roster, no matter if you're Ezekiel

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Speaker 5: Elliott or if you're a journeyman like me, like he

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Speaker 5: gives your flowers. D Moore, you made that play Church,

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Speaker 5: you did this like he gives his credit. Doesn't talk much,

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Speaker 5: that is great like that but will be humble enough

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Speaker 5: to talk to everybody and do that too.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I'm.

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Speaker 6: Saying it is he deserves it. When you say that

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Speaker 2: He's getting in it. So yeah, I just had to

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Speaker 3: Clarence Hill thought had a good point yesterday on the

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Speaker 3: is the best Cowboys player in organization.

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Speaker 2: Post Super Bowl, post their Super.

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Speaker 3: of Fame. You can argue he is one of the

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Speaker 3: top five at his position to ever play that position

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Speaker 5: And you know how don that get tough when people

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Speaker 5: have recency bias and or they don't know about those

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Speaker 2: Everybody agrees with what you just said.

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Speaker 3: So congratulations to him. Five years.

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Speaker 2: He will go.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's Sharene Williams or whoever's going to make the

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Speaker 3: Martin eleven years, uh nine Pro Bowls, seven and first

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Speaker 3: Team All pros out keep going, no, no, that's it,

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be here. He likes being here, yeah he

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't. And he's going to get paid. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, star likes the star.

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Speaker 5: It's a difference being a superstar here in now versus

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Speaker 5: being a superstar anywhere else. Yeah, Mike's gonna get the bag.

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Speaker 5: said it before, there are too many holes to feel.

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Speaker 5: And if you're gonna give coach Schottenheimer a chance this season,

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Speaker 5: you're gonna have to give him some dogs, some people

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Speaker 5: to operate with. And there are a ton of names

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Speaker 5: that have been cut that I've already in our group chat,

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Speaker 5: I've thrown names around. I'm getting shot down, but that's

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Speaker 5: all right, that's all right. Something's gonna happen. Some's gonna give.

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Speaker 5: But michaels I got Michael's I got and if and

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Speaker 5: if you're gonna go as far as to some of

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Speaker 5: these other guys that we've seen get paid, and you said,

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Speaker 5: as you stated, Jerry doesn't lose on getting his guys,

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Speaker 5: anyone that he wants to sign. I believe Michael's in

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Speaker 5: that list of superstars that he wants to sign. He

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Speaker 5: wants to have here, wants him to retire as a

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Speaker 5: Dallas cowboy. And look, I just think as far as

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Speaker 5: all of that. You want to bring in the guys

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Speaker 5: in the draft, but also get guys during free agency

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Speaker 5: so you can ramp up this defense because last last season,

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Speaker 5: look this is a wash. You didn't get any production

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Speaker 5: from that. Michael was hurt for a lot of the

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Speaker 5: majority of the season. But look, I look for them

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Speaker 5: to get that contract taken care of because you.

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Speaker 2: Have to.

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Speaker 6: Is playing for Ebra Flues, you have to get it done.

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Speaker 6: Think about it. When his time at the Coats, you

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Speaker 6: and then you had somebody consistently you locked it up with. Oh,

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Speaker 6: now you have to lock it up with a generational

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Speaker 6: talent and Michael, And like you said, the star loves

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Speaker 6: of the he's finally turned that corner to where it's

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Speaker 2: It's going to free this up for me. I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: So like you said, Jerry doesn't miss on this guys,

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Speaker 6: Daz Oh, when you're gonna pay Daz Brian, Hey, when

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Speaker 6: Ezekiel Ellen, when you're gonna pay dak His guys get

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Speaker 6: that bag. So Michael's gonna get the back. It's just

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Speaker 6: about how much of a bag he's gonna get. Because

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Speaker 6: Just like and you don't want to have those feelings.

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Speaker 6: And this is just me speaking from a fan's perspective.

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Speaker 6: You don't want to have those feelings with the Oas

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Speaker 6: or the Dak Prescott. Like, oh man, if we'd have

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Speaker 6: just paid Dak two years ago, we wouldn't be sitting

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Speaker 6: over here restructuring his contract. If we to pay Ezekiel

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Speaker 6: a couple of years ago, maybe he wouldn't have held

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Speaker 6: out and went to Cabo and we could have seen

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Speaker 6: the com zeke that went there. So that's my only

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Speaker 6: thing is like not at all? Got it show Michael

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Speaker 6: the love and the respect that he needs to make

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Speaker 6: him more motivated to be here, because he already wants

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Speaker 6: to be here.

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Speaker 2: But you need to add that gas.

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Speaker 6: In the celerant. So it's just about when is it

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Speaker 6: gonna happen? And then because if you keep waiting and

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Speaker 6: that price keep going up, Max just got his bag,

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Speaker 6: well guess what.

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Speaker 2: He might not need the Max.

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Speaker 6: Deal, but he needs to be somewhere in that ballpark

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Speaker 6: or it is going to be a disrespect. And now

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Speaker 6: but you having to pay him because we know Jerry's

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Speaker 6: gonna do it. Are you going to be able to

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Speaker 6: get the rest of those dogs. Are you gonna be

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Speaker 6: able to go fix the other side of the trenches?

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Speaker 6: Are you gonna lock up only two star players on

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Speaker 6: your defensive line like that?

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Speaker 2: That's where it gets a little danger and Dicey.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna get paid. He has to with Eberflus defense.

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Speaker 5: You know a lot of zone they rush for. You

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Speaker 5: gotta have somebody get he.

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Speaker 2: Get in this defense.

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Speaker 5: If you don't, then you're not gonna get any pressure

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Speaker 5: on the quarterback and his defense is gonna get picked alive.

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Speaker 2: So the deal is gonna get done.

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Speaker 5: It's just a matter of when and what the amount

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Speaker 5: is is gonna be And I see him being one

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Speaker 5: of the highest non paid quarterbacks in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: That'd be Max Crosby. For two weeks, He'll be Yeah,

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Speaker 2: two weeks Max and play and Max will be just fine.

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm gonna tell you like this, them state taxes

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Speaker 6: over here and him getting a bigger bag. It's gonna

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Speaker 6: look better for Michael though. So Hey, slow and steady

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Speaker 6: wins the race.

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Speaker 2: Heckman, Harrison, what's up? Bro?

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, trade more, appreciate your church, Appreciate you, Chris

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Speaker 3: bean Green, everybody here.

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Speaker 2: Do that don't do that. I don't ever do that

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 14: Though.

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