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Speaker 1: Miss Spelling with Tory Spelling, an iHeartRadio podcast. Hi guys,

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Speaker 1: my guest today is Oh such I'm girling out because

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Speaker 1: I'm such a fan. She was one of the OG

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives of New York City and she has been

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Speaker 1: performing hit cabaret shows since twenty eighteen. She's currently touring.

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Speaker 1: The latest cabaret show is called mary s Kill. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go see it in San Diego this summer. Welcome

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Speaker 1: Countess lou Anne.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm great? How are you? I feel like I've seen

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Speaker 1: him in so long. Well in person, I see you

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Speaker 1: right there for it.

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Speaker 2: But it's been a long time.

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Speaker 1: It has been a long time.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing.

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Speaker 1: Uh, that's a load of question. How long do we

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Speaker 1: get right?

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Speaker 2: How long you got right? Ring a cocktail for that one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, talked to you about that off the podcast, but

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you were crushing it. I am so

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Speaker 1: happy for you. I mean, you were the OG New

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Speaker 1: York housewife. I feel like growing up in Beverly Hills,

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Speaker 1: that was like my jam that I watched The Real

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Speaker 1: HOUSEWIVESID Beverly Hills. But then being a Beverly Hills girl,

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Speaker 1: New York just enticed me because well, you guys were amazing.

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Speaker 1: You like drew me right in and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's what it would be like to be living in

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Speaker 1: New York because I'm fifty one and the only times

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Speaker 1: in my life I've ever been to New York still

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Speaker 1: to this day, is when I work, so I don't

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Speaker 1: know the other side.

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Speaker 2: Of it, right, fun, so fun to be a tourist

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Speaker 2: in New York. I was just sending Beverly Hills. I

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Speaker 2: did my show. I kicked off like at the Wiltern.

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Speaker 1: That is so amazing. Mary f Kill. When are the

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Speaker 1: next dates? What are the dates in total?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've got a lot of dates. You can check

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Speaker 2: out go to countslanda dot com for dates because I'm

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Speaker 2: going to Pennsylvania next. I just came back from London.

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Speaker 2: I did six sold out shows in London, which was amazing,

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Speaker 2: incredible experience. I till this Winton came to my show,

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Speaker 2: like what was yes, I was.

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Speaker 1: You know beforehand she was coming.

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Speaker 2: You know, I heard that she might be coming, but

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Speaker 2: I didn't know if she would come or not. And

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Speaker 2: she came to me after the show and she said, Donie,

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Speaker 2: I love what you do. It's you. You. You can

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Speaker 2: see you because you so much joy and just spreading

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Speaker 2: joy to everyone around you. It's a beautiful thing to watch.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing. Anyway, she was incredible and it was a.

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Speaker 1: Great practice of all trades. I think you have voiceover

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Speaker 1: work in your future as well. You do a great accent.

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Speaker 2: People tell me that all the time. You know, Mary

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Speaker 2: f Kill's song just came out a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: You know, I you know my show because you haven't

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Speaker 2: seen it is it's cabaret meets pop culture meets comedy

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Speaker 2: meets the fashion show because you can bet there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of your body dress is happening, and you know.

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Speaker 2: And how I came up with the show as I

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Speaker 2: was doing my shows and I've been doing cabaret since

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and every single show I get asked, all right,

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Speaker 2: couwn does Mary f Kill? So every single show, So

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Speaker 2: that was my inspiration. Really, it's from the fans who

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Speaker 2: would ask me because we've never played Mary f Kill

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Speaker 2: like on the show. I didn't even really know what

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Speaker 2: that game was, and so that was my inspiration. So

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Speaker 2: I wrote the song and decided that was the tour, etc.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's so much fun. I just I love

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Speaker 2: the creative process of the show. And you know, I

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Speaker 2: start basically with the songs that I love, and then

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Speaker 2: I work backwards into like, what is the story that's

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Speaker 2: going to bring me to that song? Because Cabaret's really

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Speaker 2: about storytelling, you know, and it's about my journey. All

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Speaker 2: the music I pick is because I know my fans

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Speaker 2: are going to know that song, so it's like a

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Speaker 2: big sing along.

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Speaker 1: And wait, I have a question. Do you think you'll

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Speaker 1: ever do a song surrounding bushes?

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Speaker 2: Well, and I haven't thought about that.

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Speaker 1: I I love that replay of you falling in the bushes?

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Speaker 1: Where were you guys? What vacation?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? Well we've been drinking tequila all day long.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I was so happy the backstory. I

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Speaker 2: Was falling down again. So I was like, leave me

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Speaker 2: in the bush. I'm so happy, you know. Yeah that

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Speaker 2: was Yeah, that was That was a moment for me.

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Speaker 2: And but you see, I play all these kind of

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Speaker 2: moments because I do video packages and you know, I

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Speaker 2: have music videos for my song. So a lot of

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Speaker 2: exciting stuff going on, a lot of TV show projects

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Speaker 2: coming up, so you know, TV life isn't over for me.

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Speaker 2: For those of who think that, you know, Ronnie's over,

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Speaker 2: that's that's not the case.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like you should do a song about

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Speaker 1: falling into the bushes that was iconic on the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I You're probably right, I should. That was a

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Speaker 2: moment that is frozen in time.

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Speaker 1: Literally they would freeze on it and replay it and

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Speaker 2: So many memes from that and be cool. Don't be

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Speaker 2: like all uncle, I mean that's you know.

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Speaker 1: You're so graceful.

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Speaker 2: Well you know, my daughter said, mom, at least you

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Speaker 2: felt very gracefully. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I think you should do a song about that.

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Speaker 1: And since I so, I brought it up here as inspiration,

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Speaker 1: I feel like maybe I could be your muse and like,

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Speaker 1: or I could play like a bush on stage or something.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, why just something anything, I just want

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Speaker 1: to work with you.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's that's so sweet. That would be Do you

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Speaker 2: like to sing?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 2: Oh good? What's your go to?

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Speaker 1: Oh? My gosh, I'm an eighties girl. I mean I'm

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Speaker 1: not literally an eighties girl, but I like eighties songs.

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Speaker 1: So anything bangles or like totally clips of the Heart

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Speaker 1: or Betty Davis eyes or like but I love like.

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Speaker 2: These and Dave sas Yes, God.

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Speaker 1: Be still my beauty heart. Am I supposed to call

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Speaker 1: you countess? Am I supposed to call you lu An?

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Speaker 1: Am I supposed to call you a hot goddess?

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Speaker 2: Well listen, you know people know me as countess, right,

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Speaker 2: But you know people love using my title more than

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Speaker 2: I use my title. So I leave it up to you, darling,

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Speaker 2: and call me Lou. You can call me countess, you

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Speaker 2: can call me Luan. That seems to be the That

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Speaker 2: seems to be like the kind of order. A lot

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Speaker 2: of people call me Lou, you know, because they feel

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Speaker 2: like they're my friend, so they call me Lou. It's

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Speaker 2: it's really cute. Actually, I mean, London was off the hook.

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Speaker 2: I had thirty thousand or forty thousand people in front

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Speaker 2: in them sitting a money camp by your classs. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's like, oh my god, this is insane. You know.

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Speaker 2: I saw on Vogue Amanda Lapour came and did her shot.

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Speaker 2: You've never seen her perform. She was great. I love

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Speaker 2: her thonging. I love my pussy I'm dying. I had

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Speaker 2: the Pussycat Dolls come to say it was it was really,

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Speaker 2: it was really amazing. And you know, now I'm back

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Speaker 2: in the US. I just realized I'm gonna be out

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Speaker 2: in California, but I'm doing San Diego.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I can give VIP tickets?

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Speaker 2: Definitely come everybody else, Girls Trip Road Tripped.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're gonna love the show.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, it's Girls Summer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's a fun show. People just you know,

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Speaker 2: they come in their sequence, in their statement necklaces. You know,

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Speaker 2: they show up for me. And it's so great. It's

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Speaker 2: like a big sing along. It's immersive, and you know,

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Speaker 2: if if you go there alone, you don't leave alone

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Speaker 2: because people are connected through the Housewives universe. It's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's true. But even if you're not a fan of Housewives,

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Speaker 1: like I have friends that have never seen Housewives that

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Speaker 1: want to see your show and fell in love with you, Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's right. I have so many friends that have seen

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Speaker 1: your show, and I was bummed when I didn't get

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Speaker 1: to see it in La near your past show not

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Speaker 1: Mary f killed the new one on tour, I'm so excited. Wait,

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Speaker 1: you can see the question money Can't Buy Your Class?

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Speaker 1: When you sang that song, were you thinking like this

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Speaker 1: is a good way to integrate it into the show,

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Speaker 1: because the show totally was a platform for other businesses

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Speaker 1: that anyone wanted to do. Or how did that come about?

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Speaker 2: Well, so I wrote a book on managers and etiquete

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Speaker 2: because you know, I lived in Europe for many years

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Speaker 2: royals the whole time. You know, the King of Greece

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Speaker 2: to learn to be elegant, you know. And that's that's

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Speaker 2: what money Can't Buy Your Classes all about. It's like,

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Speaker 2: it's not about the money. It's about how you treat

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Speaker 2: people and respect for others. And the aristocrats are really

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Speaker 2: and he said, what do you want to sing about it?

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Speaker 2: And he goes well, I don't know. I just wrote

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Speaker 2: this book on manners and etiquette. So I have like

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Speaker 2: takeaway lines from class with the Countess, and they were

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Speaker 2: elegance has learned. Money can't buy you class. You know,

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Speaker 2: being interested is what makes you self. Well there, you know,

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Speaker 2: all these things came out of really the book, and

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Speaker 2: that's how I wrote the song.

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Speaker 1: Did you know you would go on to go on

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Speaker 1: tour and have a cabaret show? Like wow, talk about manifesting.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm a manifesto. I believe totally in that.

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Speaker 2: We you know, we write our stories because life is

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Speaker 2: a cabaret, no matter what Bethany says. And a really

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Speaker 2: good friend of mine, old friend, says to me, Luke,

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Speaker 2: you love to entertain, you love to be a hostess,

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Speaker 2: you love to sing for your friends, and you love

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Speaker 2: to tell jokes, which is all true, and he goes,

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Speaker 2: you should be doing cabaret. And that's really where I

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Speaker 2: I got married, I got divorced in between. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: a lot of things got in the way. And then

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Speaker 2: finally I started with the cabaret and I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: I was like filling a void for something that is

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Speaker 2: really it doesn't really exist that much anymore, or cabaret.

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Speaker 2: You know Eliza Cheetah, you know, Bette Midler, all the greats.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're not doing it anymore. And then so

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Speaker 2: somehow I felt this void I didn't even know I

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Speaker 2: it wasn't count as cabaret. I had, you know, guests,

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Speaker 2: I've had, Lance Bass has been in my show. You know,

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Speaker 2: I had a lot of people when I used to

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Speaker 2: I left the stage, they would start moving around. So

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that. Why do you think Mary f kill?

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Speaker 1: Or adding perfect So you do dabble with dating younger men. Correct, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, right right, yeah, you know it's darling.

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Speaker 1: It's a teenage I've been there, I've been there. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I adore you. I could literally talk

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Speaker 2: Oh that would be amazing. That would be so great.

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Speaker 2: You should come.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah really? Oh good road trip. Yes, we'll have fun

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Speaker 1: Okay, perfect. Thank you for being here today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks story, it's great to see you. And you know,

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Speaker 2: heartbroken and so these big changes in our life kind

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Speaker 2: of makes a shift, and and then you'll be onto

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It will be well, you just manifested it

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Speaker 1: for me, so thank you. There you I'm going to

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Speaker 1: This next phase of my life, not will be is fabulous,

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Speaker 2: Say Levis, say bo, say boon.

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Speaker 1: Love you