WEBVTT - Do You Fondue? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:22.120 M hm. It's nine in Valhalla and you're listening tonight Call. Okay, everybody, 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:24.880 and welcome to night Call your podcast for your strange 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.160 days and lonely nights. I'm Molly Lambert and with me 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.160 in Los Angeles is Test Lynch. And over in New 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:36.240 York we have Emily Yoshida and Test Lynch. Just came 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.000 from New York. Just yesterday. Tesla Lynch was in New York. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:45.360 What were you up to, TESTI roade the plane. Well, um, 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.120 I went to New York. So it's been two years 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.879 since I've been on a plane and out of you, 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.879 thank you. It was two years ago had a traumatic 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.720 experience on a plane where my daughter screamed for um, 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.280 the six hours there and the six hours back, and 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.720 then you texted me and you said, somebody else's child 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.560 is screaming on this flight. And I'm so happy, so happy. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.120 I was sitting next to a family with like it 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.720 just seemed like they had just four rows of children 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.000 who were all roughly the same age. I'm not sure 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.280 how that worked out, um, but all of them screamed 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.440 and I was loving it. I almost stood up at 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.200 the end and wanted to be like, you're great, they 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.319 did fantastic. Um, you know what, being on the plane 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.360 is scary. Screaming the whole time is kind of a 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.600 natural reaction that other people suppress out of it is. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:32.000 I was just talking about this with um blank check 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.800 blank check host David Sims and former Night Called guests 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.320 Richard Lawson this weekend because they are both nervous flyers 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.840 and I am not, and I'm very grateful for it, 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.319 I guess. But also the entire act of fine is 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.720 completely abstract to me, so I don't understand, like, oh, 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:51.760 it's because that's one of the things where I'm like, 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.760 I don't know how a plane works and stays up 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.640 in the air. Really wait, did you miss ninth grade science? 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.920 I know what supposed like a like a jet stream 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.480 and you know, the air currents are keeping it up, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.240 but like the fact that it stays up is crazy. 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.680 My issue with flying, beyond having children, is that the 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.440 physical changes that happen when you're in an airplane, Like 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.560 I'm very sensitive in general, I guess to sort of 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.280 like the elements, well yeah, but also like the way 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.280 that you get dried out and like my ear lobes 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.280 started like throwing. It's a weird thing because it's like 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.800 a bus in the sky, a sky bus sky bus, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.960 but it almost feels like being in the microwave for 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.760 six hours at ten power. It's not like you're not 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.240 being like totally cooked, but like a little bit cooked. Mom, 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:45.040 who is a nervous flyer, likes to pretend she's on 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.600 a train because that makes her feel calmer. But it's 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.959 really hard to pretend you're on a train if you 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:54.359 look yeah, being I like, I like trains. Trains are great, 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:58.080 and being on a plane is like inherently kind of uncomfortable. 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.400 It's up. I think the thing that would make me 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.640 nervous if I really started to dial and think about 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.440 it was another thing we were talking about, which is 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.799 just like all the things that like one little thing 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:10.040 can go wrong, as far as the checklist before flight happens, 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.160 and and everybody's toast. And they were telling me about 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.840 they were telling me about some case recently of some 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.800 kind of budget airline. I want to say it was 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:23.840 an Indian airline and they just forgot to pressurize the 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.560 cabin before the flight went up, and everybody just started 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:31.079 bleeding out of their ear drawings, which is just like 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.160 my night and then suddenly you know, of course, then 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.200 I'm like, oh god, that's horrible, Like flying is a nightmare. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.560 But like you know, it's just this one little thing. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.960 People are cavalier about space travel when you know billionaires 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.360 that are sending people to space. They're like, we'll all 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.360 just be going too space. And then we talk about 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.960 space madness, where it's like, you know, your brain can't 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.720 handle a long journey through the cospital. Also, there was 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.800 just something recently about the radiation levels on Mars, and 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.360 if you went to Mars you would just be like 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.880 complete a radiod like I was thinking about the other 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.960 day because I was looking at Mars because I love 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.880 Mars and it's been out a lot, uh, and I 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.080 was just like, who looks at that? And it's like 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.280 we should go put like fucking hotels on it. No, 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.359 I know it doesn't need to be gentrified exactly. Do 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.320 not gentrify marks. Yeah, leave the Martians alone, Leave the 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.279 Martians alone. I was going to say, Emily, that was 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.360 Stanley Kubrick's reason for not flying. The pressure eyes. No, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.880 the idea that like one little thing could go wrong. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.839 He was like too obsessive and just was like he 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:34.479 didn't trust anybody else to be as obsessive. That's right exactly, 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.120 and that's why he shot like in England and all 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:43.359 that stuff, because he wouldn't leave. I'm I'm of his camp. 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.080 Although I have to say it was really nice to 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.919 go back to New York. I hadn't been back in 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.040 a while. And I went for the Tribeca TV Festival 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.640 because my husband was in a an indie pilot that 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.039 was written and directed by my friend Bridget who also 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:58.720 is Molly's friend. She went to high school with us. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.120 It's called I was a teenage all queen. I'm plugging 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.880 it right now. Um. But we also saw four other 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.840 pilots that were it was just fun Like it was 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:11.280 nice to like have a semi professional reason to go 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.920 like do something like that. Was really excited because she 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.920 met Lynn Shelton who were all told her about the 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.440 podcast Thailand. I know you're listening to have a pilot. No, 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.760 she was a guest, she was she was a plus 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.400 fellow plus ones. Um. But yeah, I met like a 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.039 lot of really cool, interesting people. Use you're not a 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.200 big New York person in general, even though you are 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.400 from there. I'm from there. The tricky thing for me 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.520 about New York is that it would be like I mean, 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.479 it's everybody has that thing of like, you know, it 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.200 just makes you feel old when you go back to 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.400 where you're from and it looks totally different and everything 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.360 is closed. But New York used to be so gross 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.720 and I loved that about it, and um, I ended up. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.600 I was at Washington Square Park and it was so 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.120 like fancy. I mean, it was ridiculously fancy. And then 0:05:58.400 --> 0:05:59.960 I went I was like, I had to take my 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.000 toddler to the bathroom and we went in and they 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.480 were like horrible. Count I was just like, this looks 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.960 like the w but it's like a public bathroom. And 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:11.880 then I just kept park that Needle Park. What was 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.039 Needle Park? I think Needle Park may have been Washington 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.240 Square Park. I thought that was Tompkins Square. Oh, that 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.960 would make more maybe. Um, when I was a kid, 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.159 Washington Square was the park that I went to, and 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.279 now Union Square Park is like the where you take 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.359 your kids. Uh my my son made a lot different 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.960 dance to the Harry Christmas. Yes. Yeah, it was interesting 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.360 too to see the different troops that were like campaigning 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.040 at these parks. That was like no scientologists those are 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.120 at Echo Park, like there are no I didn't they 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.360 just had like it's like it's coastal affiliation. 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I sent Molly a bunch of pictures of 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.800 trash and pigeon pooh well because I was like this, 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.160 I don't see how hard the inner workings of how 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.000 New York operates right now are just so mystifying to 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.120 me because when I was growing up, it was like, 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.800 you know, the trash, the dirt, like it was all 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.000 kind of elemental to the city because it was like yeah, 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:08.719 and it was kind of an acknowledgement of like it 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.760 would take way too much work to tackle this guy's 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:12.480 like way too much money, way too much work. It's 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.560 just not going to happen. And now there's this like 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.760 mysterious thing of like you know, I mean, obviously their 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.960 answers to these questions, but the fact that homeless people 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.680 have been basically like eliminated from the streets is very 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.920 disturbing to me because in l A obviously that's that's 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.200 something where um, I'm like privy to a lot of 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.200 that dialogue, and I don't I don't really know where 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.160 they all went. Actually, there was a lot of homelessness 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.959 in New York the last time I went there. What 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:44.200 I learned they corralled them into subway stations. Uh okay, 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.000 because I mean that was the thing of like when 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.880 I was growing up, it was it was just basically 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:54.160 like you know, it looked a lot more like l A. Now. Yeah. Also, 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.920 just going I went to sty Town, um, and they 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.760 have like movie nights and an ice skating rink apparently 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.599 in the winter, and it's all of these pristine playgrounds, 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.559 and I was just like, this is very nice, Like 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.880 it doesn't but it doesn't seem like New York. That's 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.640 why In New York, because I'm an Old New York. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.360 Then you make like the Stanley Kubrick eyes watch shut, 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.880 like the version from your Memories. Yes, yeah, you build 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.559 it on a set. It was. It was really great. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.600 I got to see my friend Rachel, who hadn't seen 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.800 in a long time. Um, and we went to a 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.200 restaurant where oh we were trying to find a place 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.080 to eat and it was obviously like a weekend night, 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.240 so impossible. We didn't have reservations anywhere, and we wandered 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.280 into this restaurant where we could sit at the bar 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.440 or lounge. And we went to the bar and it 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.560 was pretty full, but there was a woman sitting with 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.920 two seats on either side of her, and she was alone, 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:44.679 and she had bags on the seats next to her, 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:47.440 and we were like, hey, do you mind just scooching 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:49.720 over one seat or like moving your bag so that 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.120 we can sit and she was like, sweethearts, I can't 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.199 and we were like good why and she was like 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.000 you have to understand, I'm meeting a man who I 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.280 haven't seen him in thirty years. And we were but 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.240 he's not going to take all these seats, like what 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.120 do you need them for? And she was like, look 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:08.360 at the lights and she was like under a little 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:12.120 light that was like slightly more amber than the other lights, 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.000 but they were like identical reasons other than it was 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:16.800 like a little warmer. And she was like I got 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.559 here at five and it was like seven thirty, Like 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.400 I got here at five, and I'm just waiting for 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.400 him and like I have to be sitting in this seat, 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.400 and we were like, funck fine. She was like, I'm 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:30.320 not crazy, and we were like you are crazy. I 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.880 don't know. So then we walk around to like go 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.600 somewhere else, and a couple pulls us over and they're like, oh, 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.160 we've been here for an hour. She did that to us. 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.800 She did that to them, like pointing, just like she 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.040 had iced out everybody who had tried to sit at 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.640 the bar. And they were like, I don't think this 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:50.400 guy is gonna show up, like how you known like 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.839 some listeners. He did show up, because we were eating 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.400 at the lounge and we were like waiting to see 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.640 and she was like in her maybe late fifties, and 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.160 then this guy comes in and he's like her age 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.960 and he sits down and when we left, they were 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:11.600 making out. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to be 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.440 reading Modern Love for like the rest of my life, 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.760 just to try and find that is genuinely a beautiful, 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.840 in romantic, a wonderful story. It was, but I was 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.880 still kind of pissed because I was like, I don't know, 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.960 I mean, like I really would have preferred to sit 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:28.440 at the bar one of the things that I had 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:33.480 suggested talking about UFO religions. I've been just really into religions. Well, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.480 I when Molly proposed this, I was like, what do 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.080 you mean? She was like scientology. It's like, well, I 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.000 was like, there's a bunch of them. Wait, what do 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:44.120 you mean by UFO religion. They're like a bunch of Okay, 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:48.880 So there's like religions, religions that are based around either 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.160 like post atomic age relation post atomic age, like like 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.679 sixties and seventies, Like we're trying some stuff out and 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.960 here's what it is. Um, Scientology is one of them. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:05.560 But there's also the realiens. Oh yes, Um, it's people 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.640 who believe that the UFOs coming is the rapture basically, 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:14.720 and the people in independence No exactly and unarious. Um. 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:20.720 Have you guys ever seen v the eighties TV miniseries, Yeah, yeah, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.320 The Lizard, the lizard people. One that's super scary where 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.520 it's like the it's like it's the v as the visitors, 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.280 and it's like all these spaceships just arrive and like 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.920 stand over all the big cities, like an Independence day, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.360 and then the visitors come out and they're like we're good, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.480 like trust us. And then they turned out to be 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.320 lizard people. But it's all about the people being like 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.760 should we trust the visitors like they say they're good 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.400 and they want to help us. And then I just 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:48.079 learned that it was actually just an adaptation of Upton 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:52.480 Sinclair's It Can't Happen Here? Oh really Yeah, and then 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.840 it was pitched originally as a story about like Nazis 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.960 in America, and they were like that's too intense, too hot, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:04.520 too hot, too hot, so they changed it to aliens. 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:08.880 But there's all this stuff in it about like the visitors. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.040 They like. What they do is they like suppress science 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.800 so that nobody will do the science that will find 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.600 out their lizard people. How do they suppress the science? 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:22.120 They like start killing scientists. Okay, let's let's say this 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.080 for a later episode, because it feels like there's a 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.480 lot I just wanted to bring it into the nightcall 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:31.800 Spear because um, it's something I think we will revisit. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:40.360 Let's take a nightcall. I think we have one about cheese. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:47.400 This email comes from Lena and she writes from Leicester, England. Um, 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.520 in part I am not reading the whole email, but 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.120 I'm going to cut right to the chase. Every time 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.080 I've told someone I don't like cheese, people react as 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.520 if I just viciously insulted their infant child. My father 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.720 and friends have, on many occasions, has tried to trick 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:04.120 me into eating concealed cheese to prove that this has 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.080 all been a lifelong ruise on my part since birth. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.360 I'm twenty five years old. That is a long time 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.920 to keep up a weird and very specific food based prank. Finally, 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.520 I found this study where these scientists scan the brains 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.760 of like three people who all don't like cheese and 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.600 found that they have the same the same abnormality in 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.360 their brain with a link to that we will put 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.680 in an addendum to this episode. My dream is to 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.120 save up enough money to get my brain scanned and 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.880 then have the result printed out on tasteful business cards 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.640 to hand out to people. L O l Thank you, Lena. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.040 So this is a scientific It's like the people who 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.560 think um cilantro tastes like soap or brussels or the 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:48.640 like bitterness the brain. I should clear clarify because she was, 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.120 you know, she was responding to me talking about the 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.720 fact that I don't eat cheese, and um, I wouldn't 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.400 say that I have a natural aversion to cheese. I 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.520 used to eat a lot of cheese. I lived in 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:05.520 the Midwest, I lived in Dairy Country County, went to 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.000 I went to dairy Queen like every you know, every 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:14.320 chance I got um. But um, I stopped drinking milk 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.960 I think, I want to say in my sophomore year 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.520 because I saw we had to watch a video about 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.800 how milk is made in industrialized society, and it was 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.840 so horrifying that, I mean, I would still drink dairy products, 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.040 have dairy products, but I wouldn't drink just plain milk 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:35.160 because that it was too reminiscent of all these cows 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.720 being pushed into these metal milking devices and stuff. It 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:43.280 was just really unpleasant. But you eat meat, right, I 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.000 do eat meat? Yeah, So how no, I'm I don't. 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.320 I'm not saying it doesn't makes any sense. I don't know. 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:52.240 I want to say that my dietary got actses are 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.440 part of some larger philosophy, got in there, very selective 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.560 and silly. No. I appreciate that because I think it 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.000 is sort of like, well, it's also like if anybody 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:02.640 had to look at like how things are made, we'd 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.240 all be vegans, just like Paul McCartney. So I was vegan. 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.560 So the real thing is that I was vegan then 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:12.080 for about three years, and when I wanted to stop 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.719 being vegan because I was tired and run down all 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.840 the time, and I wonder if I just like wasn't 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.840 eating properly or needed a more I don't know. I 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.760 was just trying everything at that point. So I tried 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.600 to stop beating vegan. So I started eating meat again, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.720 but I could not eat cheese. It made me barf um. 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.000 So I I kind of feel like maybe that's a 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.000 more bizarre thing for people to eat. I wouldn't say, 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:38.080 I don't know. Lactose intolerance is real. Yeah, of course 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:42.240 it is, and I probably am lerant, and there are 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:46.560 some like groups that are predisposed to lactose intolerance. But 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.320 there are people who are lactose intolerant and still love 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.600 cheese and dairy products. But I am one of those 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.840 people for sure, But I don't love all cheese like 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.240 I'm not one of those people. 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But um, I just really quickly because 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.879 Molly sent us a very interesting article from the New 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.359 York Times that was I think three days ago. So 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.320 well I just text you guys ideas for the podcast, 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.600 and they're just like octopus on ecstasy. Well, we have 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.119 to just address the fact that they a bunch of 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:16.159 scientists gave some octopied some ecstasy and they had they 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:19.760 had a like they put the octopus in a tank 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:24.000 with another octopus that was hiding under like an upturned 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.359 pot in case one you know, the octopus on drugs 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:28.320 got aggressive and wanted to beat up the octopus. The 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:30.320 other octopus had a place to hide, and then they 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:34.720 had a toy, and when they gave the octopus ecstasy, 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.800 it became like hyper social and wanted to give hugs, 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.679 you know, like a like a raver. They wanted to 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:43.920 call its family and just say, like, I just want 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:49.840 to let you guys know, I love like they're normally solitary, 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:54.240 but they like just wanted to cuddle an octopus. And 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.440 so that just like further solidifies my stance that it's 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:00.879 you cannot eat octopus are too smart. They're too cute 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.040 and smart. Yeah, and whims like, well, pigs are too, 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:13.400 so everybody's a hypocrite. Vegans are smarter than I got 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:15.639 mad at my friend Paul, who's a vegan, because he 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.600 was like excitedly talking about killing mosquitoes, and I was like, 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.000 aren't you a vegan. He was like, mosquitoes don't deserve 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:24.040 to live. They're the deadliest animal. He's a hundred percent right, 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:25.639 I know. But he was also like, I'm not a 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.440 vegan because I like care about animals. I'm a vegans, 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.080 like I don't like any food wait, really, he's not 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:34.840 an ethical vegan. He's just like a a picky person. 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:38.080 I was. I was not an ethical vegan. I was 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:42.200 a vegan because it was cheap and I went through 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.320 what's the thing that like people always associate with Gwyneth 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:51.520 Paltrow where you just like selectively stop eating different things? Yeah, 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:55.439 I was like mildly orthorexact for like most of my life. 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.640 So I just decided like I had, you know, uh, 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:01.760 narrowed down most right, and you some people who liked 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.479 it because it's like the it's just so limiting and 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:09.199 that can be Yeah, it gives you so much and 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:12.320 when you're poor also, it's like, well, there's there were 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.080 only a few things that I could afford, and now 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:19.360 doesn't it doesn't lead to eating well necessarily, I feel 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:23.320 like a lot of them. So many unhealthy vegans just 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:27.040