Speaker 1: M hm. It's nine in Valhalla and you're listening tonight Call. Okay, everybody,
Speaker 1: and welcome to night Call your podcast for your strange
Speaker 1: days and lonely nights. I'm Molly Lambert and with me
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles is Test Lynch. And over in New
Speaker 1: York we have Emily Yoshida and Test Lynch. Just came
Speaker 1: from New York. Just yesterday. Tesla Lynch was in New York.
Speaker 1: What were you up to, TESTI roade the plane. Well, um,
Speaker 1: I went to New York. So it's been two years
Speaker 1: since I've been on a plane and out of you,
Speaker 1: thank you. It was two years ago had a traumatic
Speaker 1: experience on a plane where my daughter screamed for um,
Speaker 1: the six hours there and the six hours back, and
Speaker 1: then you texted me and you said, somebody else's child
Speaker 1: is screaming on this flight. And I'm so happy, so happy.
Speaker 1: I was sitting next to a family with like it
Speaker 1: just seemed like they had just four rows of children
Speaker 1: who were all roughly the same age. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: how that worked out, um, but all of them screamed
Speaker 1: and I was loving it. I almost stood up at
Speaker 1: the end and wanted to be like, you're great, they
Speaker 1: did fantastic. Um, you know what, being on the plane
Speaker 1: is scary. Screaming the whole time is kind of a
Speaker 1: natural reaction that other people suppress out of it is.
Speaker 1: I was just talking about this with um blank check
Speaker 1: blank check host David Sims and former Night Called guests
Speaker 1: Richard Lawson this weekend because they are both nervous flyers
Speaker 1: and I am not, and I'm very grateful for it,
Speaker 1: I guess. But also the entire act of fine is
Speaker 1: completely abstract to me, so I don't understand, like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's because that's one of the things where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how a plane works and stays up
Speaker 1: in the air. Really wait, did you miss ninth grade science?
Speaker 1: I know what supposed like a like a jet stream
Speaker 1: and you know, the air currents are keeping it up,
Speaker 1: but like the fact that it stays up is crazy.
Speaker 1: My issue with flying, beyond having children, is that the
Speaker 1: physical changes that happen when you're in an airplane, Like
Speaker 1: I'm very sensitive in general, I guess to sort of
Speaker 1: like the elements, well yeah, but also like the way
Speaker 1: that you get dried out and like my ear lobes
Speaker 1: started like throwing. It's a weird thing because it's like
Speaker 1: a bus in the sky, a sky bus sky bus,
Speaker 1: but it almost feels like being in the microwave for
Speaker 1: six hours at ten power. It's not like you're not
Speaker 1: being like totally cooked, but like a little bit cooked. Mom,
Speaker 1: who is a nervous flyer, likes to pretend she's on
Speaker 1: a train because that makes her feel calmer. But it's
Speaker 1: really hard to pretend you're on a train if you
Speaker 1: look yeah, being I like, I like trains. Trains are great,
Speaker 1: and being on a plane is like inherently kind of uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: It's up. I think the thing that would make me
Speaker 1: nervous if I really started to dial and think about
Speaker 1: it was another thing we were talking about, which is
Speaker 1: just like all the things that like one little thing
Speaker 1: can go wrong, as far as the checklist before flight happens,
Speaker 1: and and everybody's toast. And they were telling me about
Speaker 1: they were telling me about some case recently of some
Speaker 1: kind of budget airline. I want to say it was
Speaker 1: an Indian airline and they just forgot to pressurize the
Speaker 1: cabin before the flight went up, and everybody just started
Speaker 1: bleeding out of their ear drawings, which is just like
Speaker 1: my night and then suddenly you know, of course, then
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, that's horrible, Like flying is a nightmare.
Speaker 1: But like you know, it's just this one little thing.
Speaker 1: People are cavalier about space travel when you know billionaires
Speaker 1: that are sending people to space. They're like, we'll all
Speaker 1: just be going too space. And then we talk about
Speaker 1: space madness, where it's like, you know, your brain can't
Speaker 1: handle a long journey through the cospital. Also, there was
Speaker 1: just something recently about the radiation levels on Mars, and
Speaker 1: if you went to Mars you would just be like
Speaker 1: complete a radiod like I was thinking about the other
Speaker 1: day because I was looking at Mars because I love
Speaker 1: Mars and it's been out a lot, uh, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, who looks at that? And it's like
Speaker 1: we should go put like fucking hotels on it. No,
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't need to be gentrified exactly. Do
Speaker 1: not gentrify marks. Yeah, leave the Martians alone, Leave the
Speaker 1: Martians alone. I was going to say, Emily, that was
Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick's reason for not flying. The pressure eyes. No,
Speaker 1: the idea that like one little thing could go wrong.
Speaker 1: He was like too obsessive and just was like he
Speaker 1: didn't trust anybody else to be as obsessive. That's right exactly,
Speaker 1: and that's why he shot like in England and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, because he wouldn't leave. I'm I'm of his camp.
Speaker 1: Although I have to say it was really nice to
Speaker 1: go back to New York. I hadn't been back in
Speaker 1: a while. And I went for the Tribeca TV Festival
Speaker 1: because my husband was in a an indie pilot that
Speaker 1: was written and directed by my friend Bridget who also
Speaker 1: is Molly's friend. She went to high school with us.
Speaker 1: It's called I was a teenage all queen. I'm plugging
Speaker 1: it right now. Um. But we also saw four other
Speaker 1: pilots that were it was just fun Like it was
Speaker 1: nice to like have a semi professional reason to go
Speaker 1: like do something like that. Was really excited because she
Speaker 1: met Lynn Shelton who were all told her about the
Speaker 1: podcast Thailand. I know you're listening to have a pilot. No,
Speaker 1: she was a guest, she was she was a plus
Speaker 1: fellow plus ones. Um. But yeah, I met like a
Speaker 1: lot of really cool, interesting people. Use you're not a
Speaker 1: big New York person in general, even though you are
Speaker 1: from there. I'm from there. The tricky thing for me
Speaker 1: about New York is that it would be like I mean,
Speaker 1: it's everybody has that thing of like, you know, it
Speaker 1: just makes you feel old when you go back to
Speaker 1: where you're from and it looks totally different and everything
Speaker 1: is closed. But New York used to be so gross
Speaker 1: and I loved that about it, and um, I ended up.
Speaker 1: I was at Washington Square Park and it was so
Speaker 1: like fancy. I mean, it was ridiculously fancy. And then
Speaker 1: I went I was like, I had to take my
Speaker 1: toddler to the bathroom and we went in and they
Speaker 1: were like horrible. Count I was just like, this looks
Speaker 1: like the w but it's like a public bathroom. And
Speaker 1: then I just kept park that Needle Park. What was
Speaker 1: Needle Park? I think Needle Park may have been Washington
Speaker 1: Square Park. I thought that was Tompkins Square. Oh, that
Speaker 1: would make more maybe. Um, when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: Washington Square was the park that I went to, and
Speaker 1: now Union Square Park is like the where you take
Speaker 1: your kids. Uh my my son made a lot different
Speaker 1: dance to the Harry Christmas. Yes. Yeah, it was interesting
Speaker 1: too to see the different troops that were like campaigning
Speaker 1: at these parks. That was like no scientologists those are
Speaker 1: at Echo Park, like there are no I didn't they
Speaker 1: just had like it's like it's coastal affiliation. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: A lot of us for Jesus at Washington Square Park
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Speaker 1: What was your biggest takeaway from New York then, maybe
Speaker 1: aside from from I mean cleanliness, because you sent me
Speaker 1: some pictures of like, well, that's the thing is I
Speaker 1: found myself. I sent Molly a bunch of pictures of
Speaker 1: trash and pigeon pooh well because I was like this,
Speaker 1: I don't see how hard the inner workings of how
Speaker 1: New York operates right now are just so mystifying to
Speaker 1: me because when I was growing up, it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, the trash, the dirt, like it was all
Speaker 1: kind of elemental to the city because it was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of an acknowledgement of like it
Speaker 1: would take way too much work to tackle this guy's
Speaker 1: like way too much money, way too much work. It's
Speaker 1: just not going to happen. And now there's this like
Speaker 1: mysterious thing of like you know, I mean, obviously their
Speaker 1: answers to these questions, but the fact that homeless people
Speaker 1: have been basically like eliminated from the streets is very
Speaker 1: disturbing to me because in l A obviously that's that's
Speaker 1: something where um, I'm like privy to a lot of
Speaker 1: that dialogue, and I don't I don't really know where
Speaker 1: they all went. Actually, there was a lot of homelessness
Speaker 1: in New York the last time I went there. What
Speaker 1: I learned they corralled them into subway stations. Uh okay,
Speaker 1: because I mean that was the thing of like when
Speaker 1: I was growing up, it was it was just basically
Speaker 1: like you know, it looked a lot more like l A. Now. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: just going I went to sty Town, um, and they
Speaker 1: have like movie nights and an ice skating rink apparently
Speaker 1: in the winter, and it's all of these pristine playgrounds,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, this is very nice, Like
Speaker 1: it doesn't but it doesn't seem like New York. That's
Speaker 1: why In New York, because I'm an Old New York.
Speaker 1: Then you make like the Stanley Kubrick eyes watch shut,
Speaker 1: like the version from your Memories. Yes, yeah, you build
Speaker 1: it on a set. It was. It was really great.
Speaker 1: I got to see my friend Rachel, who hadn't seen
Speaker 1: in a long time. Um, and we went to a
Speaker 1: restaurant where oh we were trying to find a place
Speaker 1: to eat and it was obviously like a weekend night,
Speaker 1: so impossible. We didn't have reservations anywhere, and we wandered
Speaker 1: into this restaurant where we could sit at the bar
Speaker 1: or lounge. And we went to the bar and it
Speaker 1: was pretty full, but there was a woman sitting with
Speaker 1: two seats on either side of her, and she was alone,
Speaker 1: and she had bags on the seats next to her,
Speaker 1: and we were like, hey, do you mind just scooching
Speaker 1: over one seat or like moving your bag so that
Speaker 1: we can sit and she was like, sweethearts, I can't
Speaker 1: and we were like good why and she was like
Speaker 1: you have to understand, I'm meeting a man who I
Speaker 1: haven't seen him in thirty years. And we were but
Speaker 1: he's not going to take all these seats, like what
Speaker 1: do you need them for? And she was like, look
Speaker 1: at the lights and she was like under a little
Speaker 1: light that was like slightly more amber than the other lights,
Speaker 1: but they were like identical reasons other than it was
Speaker 1: like a little warmer. And she was like I got
Speaker 1: here at five and it was like seven thirty, Like
Speaker 1: I got here at five, and I'm just waiting for
Speaker 1: him and like I have to be sitting in this seat,
Speaker 1: and we were like, funck fine. She was like, I'm
Speaker 1: not crazy, and we were like you are crazy. I
Speaker 1: don't know. So then we walk around to like go
Speaker 1: somewhere else, and a couple pulls us over and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we've been here for an hour. She did that to us.
Speaker 1: She did that to them, like pointing, just like she
Speaker 1: had iced out everybody who had tried to sit at
Speaker 1: the bar. And they were like, I don't think this
Speaker 1: guy is gonna show up, like how you known like
Speaker 1: some listeners. He did show up, because we were eating
Speaker 1: at the lounge and we were like waiting to see
Speaker 1: and she was like in her maybe late fifties, and
Speaker 1: then this guy comes in and he's like her age
Speaker 1: and he sits down and when we left, they were
Speaker 1: making out. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to be
Speaker 1: reading Modern Love for like the rest of my life,
Speaker 1: just to try and find that is genuinely a beautiful,
Speaker 1: in romantic, a wonderful story. It was, but I was
Speaker 1: still kind of pissed because I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like I really would have preferred to sit
Speaker 1: at the bar one of the things that I had
Speaker 1: suggested talking about UFO religions. I've been just really into religions. Well,
Speaker 1: I when Molly proposed this, I was like, what do
Speaker 1: you mean? She was like scientology. It's like, well, I
Speaker 1: was like, there's a bunch of them. Wait, what do
Speaker 1: you mean by UFO religion. They're like a bunch of Okay,
Speaker 1: So there's like religions, religions that are based around either
Speaker 1: like post atomic age relation post atomic age, like like
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies, Like we're trying some stuff out and
Speaker 1: here's what it is. Um, Scientology is one of them.
Speaker 1: But there's also the realiens. Oh yes, Um, it's people
Speaker 1: who believe that the UFOs coming is the rapture basically,
Speaker 1: and the people in independence No exactly and unarious. Um.
Speaker 1: Have you guys ever seen v the eighties TV miniseries, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: The Lizard, the lizard people. One that's super scary where
Speaker 1: it's like the it's like it's the v as the visitors,
Speaker 1: and it's like all these spaceships just arrive and like
Speaker 1: stand over all the big cities, like an Independence day,
Speaker 1: and then the visitors come out and they're like we're good,
Speaker 1: like trust us. And then they turned out to be
Speaker 1: lizard people. But it's all about the people being like
Speaker 1: should we trust the visitors like they say they're good
Speaker 1: and they want to help us. And then I just
Speaker 1: learned that it was actually just an adaptation of Upton
Speaker 1: Sinclair's It Can't Happen Here? Oh really Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: it was pitched originally as a story about like Nazis
Speaker 1: in America, and they were like that's too intense, too hot,
Speaker 1: too hot, too hot, so they changed it to aliens.
Speaker 1: But there's all this stuff in it about like the visitors.
Speaker 1: They like. What they do is they like suppress science
Speaker 1: so that nobody will do the science that will find
Speaker 1: out their lizard people. How do they suppress the science?
Speaker 1: They like start killing scientists. Okay, let's let's say this
Speaker 1: for a later episode, because it feels like there's a
Speaker 1: lot I just wanted to bring it into the nightcall
Speaker 1: Spear because um, it's something I think we will revisit.
Speaker 1: Let's take a nightcall. I think we have one about cheese.
Speaker 1: This email comes from Lena and she writes from Leicester, England. Um,
Speaker 1: in part I am not reading the whole email, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to cut right to the chase. Every time
Speaker 1: I've told someone I don't like cheese, people react as
Speaker 1: if I just viciously insulted their infant child. My father
Speaker 1: and friends have, on many occasions, has tried to trick
Speaker 1: me into eating concealed cheese to prove that this has
Speaker 1: all been a lifelong ruise on my part since birth.
Speaker 1: I'm twenty five years old. That is a long time
Speaker 1: to keep up a weird and very specific food based prank. Finally,
Speaker 1: I found this study where these scientists scan the brains
Speaker 1: of like three people who all don't like cheese and
Speaker 1: found that they have the same the same abnormality in
Speaker 1: their brain with a link to that we will put
Speaker 1: in an addendum to this episode. My dream is to
Speaker 1: save up enough money to get my brain scanned and
Speaker 1: then have the result printed out on tasteful business cards
Speaker 1: to hand out to people. L O l Thank you, Lena.
Speaker 1: So this is a scientific It's like the people who
Speaker 1: think um cilantro tastes like soap or brussels or the
Speaker 1: like bitterness the brain. I should clear clarify because she was,
Speaker 1: you know, she was responding to me talking about the
Speaker 1: fact that I don't eat cheese, and um, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say that I have a natural aversion to cheese. I
Speaker 1: used to eat a lot of cheese. I lived in
Speaker 1: the Midwest, I lived in Dairy Country County, went to
Speaker 1: I went to dairy Queen like every you know, every
Speaker 1: chance I got um. But um, I stopped drinking milk
Speaker 1: I think, I want to say in my sophomore year
Speaker 1: because I saw we had to watch a video about
Speaker 1: how milk is made in industrialized society, and it was
Speaker 1: so horrifying that, I mean, I would still drink dairy products,
Speaker 1: have dairy products, but I wouldn't drink just plain milk
Speaker 1: because that it was too reminiscent of all these cows
Speaker 1: being pushed into these metal milking devices and stuff. It
Speaker 1: was just really unpleasant. But you eat meat, right, I
Speaker 1: do eat meat? Yeah, So how no, I'm I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it doesn't makes any sense. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to say that my dietary got actses are
Speaker 1: part of some larger philosophy, got in there, very selective
Speaker 1: and silly. No. I appreciate that because I think it
Speaker 1: is sort of like, well, it's also like if anybody
Speaker 1: had to look at like how things are made, we'd
Speaker 1: all be vegans, just like Paul McCartney. So I was vegan.
Speaker 1: So the real thing is that I was vegan then
Speaker 1: for about three years, and when I wanted to stop
Speaker 1: being vegan because I was tired and run down all
Speaker 1: the time, and I wonder if I just like wasn't
Speaker 1: eating properly or needed a more I don't know. I
Speaker 1: was just trying everything at that point. So I tried
Speaker 1: to stop beating vegan. So I started eating meat again,
Speaker 1: but I could not eat cheese. It made me barf um.
Speaker 1: So I I kind of feel like maybe that's a
Speaker 1: more bizarre thing for people to eat. I wouldn't say,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Lactose intolerance is real. Yeah, of course
Speaker 1: it is, and I probably am lerant, and there are
Speaker 1: some like groups that are predisposed to lactose intolerance. But
Speaker 1: there are people who are lactose intolerant and still love
Speaker 1: cheese and dairy products. But I am one of those
Speaker 1: people for sure, But I don't love all cheese like
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those people. I personally find Well,
Speaker 1: she is from England, are from England, and that's like
Speaker 1: another serious child. I know. I was gonna say, that's
Speaker 1: probably so much more intense there to be the superject
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Speaker 1: speaking of eating like you know, being kind of a
Speaker 1: hypocrite about eating habits, I don't eat octopus, as we've
Speaker 1: talked about before. But um, I just really quickly because
Speaker 1: Molly sent us a very interesting article from the New
Speaker 1: York Times that was I think three days ago. So
Speaker 1: well I just text you guys ideas for the podcast,
Speaker 1: and they're just like octopus on ecstasy. Well, we have
Speaker 1: to just address the fact that they a bunch of
Speaker 1: scientists gave some octopied some ecstasy and they had they
Speaker 1: had a like they put the octopus in a tank
Speaker 1: with another octopus that was hiding under like an upturned
Speaker 1: pot in case one you know, the octopus on drugs
Speaker 1: got aggressive and wanted to beat up the octopus. The
Speaker 1: other octopus had a place to hide, and then they
Speaker 1: had a toy, and when they gave the octopus ecstasy,
Speaker 1: it became like hyper social and wanted to give hugs,
Speaker 1: you know, like a like a raver. They wanted to
Speaker 1: call its family and just say, like, I just want
Speaker 1: to let you guys know, I love like they're normally solitary,
Speaker 1: but they like just wanted to cuddle an octopus. And
Speaker 1: so that just like further solidifies my stance that it's
Speaker 1: you cannot eat octopus are too smart. They're too cute
Speaker 1: and smart. Yeah, and whims like, well, pigs are too,
Speaker 1: so everybody's a hypocrite. Vegans are smarter than I got
Speaker 1: mad at my friend Paul, who's a vegan, because he
Speaker 1: was like excitedly talking about killing mosquitoes, and I was like,
Speaker 1: aren't you a vegan. He was like, mosquitoes don't deserve
Speaker 1: to live. They're the deadliest animal. He's a hundred percent right,
Speaker 1: I know. But he was also like, I'm not a
Speaker 1: vegan because I like care about animals. I'm a vegans,
Speaker 1: like I don't like any food wait, really, he's not
Speaker 1: an ethical vegan. He's just like a a picky person.
Speaker 1: I was. I was not an ethical vegan. I was
Speaker 1: a vegan because it was cheap and I went through
Speaker 1: what's the thing that like people always associate with Gwyneth
Speaker 1: Paltrow where you just like selectively stop eating different things? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like mildly orthorexact for like most of my life.
Speaker 1: So I just decided like I had, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: narrowed down most right, and you some people who liked
Speaker 1: it because it's like the it's just so limiting and
Speaker 1: that can be Yeah, it gives you so much and
Speaker 1: when you're poor also, it's like, well, there's there were
Speaker 1: only a few things that I could afford, and now
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't lead to eating well necessarily, I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of them. So many unhealthy vegans just
Speaker 1: eat like niff and like rice and beans. What is
Speaker 1: niff niff? Uh? Nutritional useful? I do not like. I
Speaker 1: find those disgusting. They're like a substitute for cheese. But
Speaker 1: well I love them. They're do you okay? So do
Speaker 1: you like other? This brings me to my next cheese question. Um.
Speaker 1: Also in the email, there's in a different part of it.
Speaker 1: She talks about the part of what she finds off
Speaker 1: putting about cheese is that it's just hard milk. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I think that's very evocative, very evocative. Um, it's
Speaker 1: a secretion, it's a hardened secretion I have, Like if
Speaker 1: something is like else gross to me, like I don't
Speaker 1: want to eat it. Yeah, that's I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that that's universal. It's not because some people like cheese
Speaker 1: that I find disgusting and I I do not. I
Speaker 1: cannot funk with it at all. I don't do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not huge into cheese, as I've said, I'm not like,
Speaker 1: you know, a total I don't know, hard line with cheese.
Speaker 1: I'm incredibly picky about what kind of cheese I like.
Speaker 1: I like the soft, mild cheese. But you know what
Speaker 1: I don't like is there was this thing going around
Speaker 1: online recently that was like it was like a puff pastry.
Speaker 1: It was huge, like a cauldron, and it was just
Speaker 1: filled with melted cheese as like an edible, entire fondue pot.
Speaker 1: I was like, why is that appealing too much? It's
Speaker 1: just too much. I'm also, this is not going to
Speaker 1: be a popular opinion. Um, and I'm excited for fighting
Speaker 1: about it, but I do not like caso. Oh that
Speaker 1: you're wrong. I'm not. I've never had cas is fantastic.
Speaker 1: I do not care for it. Really, Emily, you've never
Speaker 1: had it. I love It's a Texas I know, but
Speaker 1: you've never I had cheese curds like you don't have
Speaker 1: to talk about She's been like a real text Max,
Speaker 1: like Boom in Los Angeles because at home State, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about the text Max Moon because I'm like,
Speaker 1: we have like Max Max. I'm like, yeah, Max, we
Speaker 1: don't need but people love ques so I don't get
Speaker 1: it at all. It's like gross nacho cheese. Basically my
Speaker 1: mom used to make um quies so when I was
Speaker 1: growing up, and it was just velvita cheese and rotel tomato. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the classic I've had that. I never really got
Speaker 1: into that it was. It was also so foreign to me.
Speaker 1: It was like, I don't know, it felt so decadent.
Speaker 1: I couldn't it's super decadent. It's hard because it's like
Speaker 1: you don't care what you're dunking in it? What about
Speaker 1: you could dunk anything in it? Where do you guys
Speaker 1: fall on Swan? Do I like Fawon? Do I miss Fawon? Do? Honestly?
Speaker 1: Because I like Swiss? You do? Wait what you just
Speaker 1: my mind just exploding. You like Swiss cheese? I get
Speaker 1: Emily's cheese. I mean I get it that I must.
Speaker 1: So I'm talking about when I when I ate cheese,
Speaker 1: Swiss cheese was good. I liked all. I liked all
Speaker 1: the Swiss cheese. I'm not a huge fan of fond
Speaker 1: I'll go for it. Maybe. I think I went to
Speaker 1: fondue with you, Molly, in a place in the valley,
Speaker 1: maybe La fond or something. You'll go to La. There's
Speaker 1: like this one weird seventies fondue place in the valley.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's still open. I loved that
Speaker 1: it's still existed. It's sort of It's very similar to
Speaker 1: like the weird French restaurant that's in Punch Drunk Glove, Yes,
Speaker 1: where he beats up the bathroom that's also there, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: or like yeah, Tay is like legitimately old. This is
Speaker 1: like a seventies attempt at like recreating the old world.
Speaker 1: Country Country kitchen is just so greasy when you melt cheese.
Speaker 1: That's the issue with melting cheese because I make this
Speaker 1: thing that is colloquially known as funeral potatoes because when
Speaker 1: someone dies, you bring them. Oh, it's it's a Midwestern
Speaker 1: thing and it's it's like also grotten, but it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you bring them to a funeral. Yeah, because when someone dies,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to. It's like it's weak food exactly, and
Speaker 1: it's it's calorie rich show if you have no appetite
Speaker 1: because it's comforted because it has like no seasoning except
Speaker 1: salt and nutmeg. But it's the problem. Would not make yeah,
Speaker 1: nutmeg because nutmeg, nutmeg is nutmeg makes also makes nutritionally
Speaker 1: east flakes tastes like more like she nut makes one
Speaker 1: of the best spices. Nutmeg is often infant fund you.
Speaker 1: I believe y'all. It's pumpkin spice season. I'm souring on,
Speaker 1: which also means it's ghost always going to say, what
Speaker 1: goes with pumpkin spice. It's better than I could ghost.
Speaker 1: It was the first day of fall, like two days ago.
Speaker 1: I was so happy. I'm such a basic be I
Speaker 1: fucking love it. Um. I was just so excited. I'm
Speaker 1: like the person that's excited about the idea of the
Speaker 1: nights becoming longer in the days becoming shorter, which I
Speaker 1: know nobody else is, but I know, I'm I I
Speaker 1: feel that. You know, it's just less time I have
Speaker 1: to wear sunscreen, and that to me is like very valuable.
Speaker 1: Now it sucks. You guys are both wrong. And I
Speaker 1: just don't like the heat, Like it gets cool at night.
Speaker 1: It could be cool and it doesn't have to mean
Speaker 1: that night last like for fifteen hours. I don't like it,
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter in Los Angeles, like here, it's
Speaker 1: really like, okay, well, I'm ready to go die for
Speaker 1: five That's true. It's true. That's why. That's literally why
Speaker 1: I live here. It's just to not I didn't know
Speaker 1: that about fall until I experienced real New England fall.
Speaker 1: It's definitely a different thing. And you understand, I used
Speaker 1: to like everything fall and winter much more when I
Speaker 1: didn't live in New York City. I still lived in
Speaker 1: that climate because you got all the beauty of it
Speaker 1: without all the like, without the feeling of like the
Speaker 1: walls are about to close in and there's nothing but wait, Molly,
Speaker 1: what's special about fall? Well, aside from the delightful nutmeg
Speaker 1: flavored beverages. Um. The autumn equinox was a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago, which is the day when the veils between
Speaker 1: the spirit worlds are easiest to penetrate. Finally, finally, um.
Speaker 1: And so my friend Emma Cunningham, who is like fifth
Speaker 1: Beetle status and Nightcall, she's out of the p a
Speaker 1: at the Night Call live show, like and did who
Speaker 1: were there? She did close up, close up card magic
Speaker 1: and she's just an all around great cool person. So
Speaker 1: she rented a ghost ometer, a ghost hunting thing. What
Speaker 1: did it look like? It looks It looked like exactly
Speaker 1: what you would sinking ghostbusters. It was like a little
Speaker 1: kind of look like a amp pedal or something. It's
Speaker 1: just like a little electronic or look like the thing
Speaker 1: that you hold on the wall to find nails. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: a stud gunder stud finder. But it has did have
Speaker 1: a laser, No, yeah, it also had a laser. It
Speaker 1: was like a two part thing. It came with a laser,
Speaker 1: so you had to point the laser and then hold
Speaker 1: the ometer. How else are you going to penetrate that?
Speaker 1: And the ghostometer has like a little different sectors of
Speaker 1: like it's got like a little oometer and it's like green, yellow, red,
Speaker 1: orange of like, how how much ghost how? So I
Speaker 1: met up with her on the Equinox in Korea Town
Speaker 1: and I was also like, what a great place to
Speaker 1: look for haunted things. There's so many old creepy things
Speaker 1: in go to the place where the ambassador we did.
Speaker 1: We went. She was like, where do you want to go?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I have a very specific like
Speaker 1: let's go to the old bullocks. I saw you were
Speaker 1: looking for ghosts in the pies. Yeah, you can find
Speaker 1: ghosts in that's an old building. We went in there. First,
Speaker 1: we went in the hotel, uh that Hotel Normandy right
Speaker 1: until Normandy. Oh my god, Hotel Normandy. Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: went in like the weird lobby there that has like
Speaker 1: it's very like shining e and there, you know, there's
Speaker 1: just didn't they did they rehab it because it shows
Speaker 1: up sometimes when I'm looking for people then and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this place used to be so so creepy. They turned
Speaker 1: it into a boutique hotel, but it's still totally creepy.
Speaker 1: Looks like the overlook and when you go inside, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like there's like the good restaurant Cassels, which is
Speaker 1: really good and has really good pies. And then there's
Speaker 1: like the big lobby that they were letting people wait
Speaker 1: for tables in. But it's like it's it's exactly like
Speaker 1: the it's just very creepy and art deco and the
Speaker 1: other place. And I feel like it's really haunted around there.
Speaker 1: That I've read about. I feel like, is the Gay Lord. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we went, so we went to the Gay Lord. We
Speaker 1: went to find where did you find the ghosts? Well, okay,
Speaker 1: don't disappoint I will disappoint you. Disappointingly, none of the
Speaker 1: places we went to that were reputedly super haunted revealed
Speaker 1: any ghosts whatsoever. And then some random places would like
Speaker 1: set the meter off very um. The one place we
Speaker 1: got a really high reading outside was in front of
Speaker 1: the church that's now I think a mosaic church, but
Speaker 1: like across from the line, but where there's like the
Speaker 1: Walk of Fame star for Jesus Christ got a ghost
Speaker 1: reading and I was like, well, that makes sense because
Speaker 1: he's the holy ghost, right like Jesus. Jesus is technically
Speaker 1: a ghost. No, but that's okay, might talk about this more.
Speaker 1: I just learned about the Holy Ghost. So I hated
Speaker 1: at the whole point. There's a it's it's separate from you, no,
Speaker 1: I know, but I have a lot of questions about
Speaker 1: Like it's like the Breath of Jesus was one thing
Speaker 1: I read Theologs of Theologians, Theologians Theologians of nightcall let
Speaker 1: us know, yeah, let us know if you think Jesus
Speaker 1: is a ghost, as as your hottest take on the
Speaker 1: Trinity place, and then just in a couple of other
Speaker 1: random places such as like a barber shop. I think
Speaker 1: we just were outside. Do you think that was like
Speaker 1: the ghost of hair? So we did, like we walked around,
Speaker 1: we went to a lot of different sort of every
Speaker 1: old building I could think of. Yeah, and like kind
Speaker 1: of over by where the Ambassador Hotel is for RFK
Speaker 1: got assassinated. But you know, my friend Emma was being
Speaker 1: sort of more of the molder. She was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, like, the ghosts surreal and we're finding them,
Speaker 1: and we're also like maybe they don't come out during
Speaker 1: the daytime as much. Who knows how it was daytime
Speaker 1: ghost hunting. Are these things work? They measure frequencies, they
Speaker 1: measure temperature. Do you know she was having a nighttime
Speaker 1: ghost hunting party, uh in slumber party. But I couldn't
Speaker 1: go because I was going to Jay z Ambilance. But
Speaker 1: you can we do some daytime ghost stunning. But wait
Speaker 1: a second, how does that You're you're avoiding answering this
Speaker 1: because maybe you don't know how does the ghostometer work?
Speaker 1: What is it measuring? Guess what I do know? Oh
Speaker 1: my bluff. Because I was the scully, I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to know, like, debunk this for me. What
Speaker 1: is this measuring? And she was like, well, it's measuring
Speaker 1: electromagnetic fields. Okay. So one of the other places we
Speaker 1: got a very high ghost reading was a school that
Speaker 1: was probably the most the most ghostie that we got
Speaker 1: a ghosts love children, like we've talked about on the podcast,
Speaker 1: is that children can see ghosts and babies can see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that grownups can, but wouldn't like computers, Well that would
Speaker 1: be boring correct maybe answer about what was actually happening,
Speaker 1: But it was still really fun to do. Can you
Speaker 1: tape this next time? Yeah? I also brought a book
Speaker 1: with me today because I was very excited about this.
Speaker 1: That's The ghost Hunter's Guide to Los Angeles. It looks
Speaker 1: like an old book. Um. And when I went to
Speaker 1: the jay Z and Beyonce concert, it was at the
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl, which is in Pasadena along the Arroyo Seco,
Speaker 1: like very close to Doubles Gate actually, and it was
Speaker 1: just like a very very you know, like a fun, communal,
Speaker 1: witchy event to be at a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of moon harvest. How witchy can it be there? If
Speaker 1: I decided, I was kind of like, he has to
Speaker 1: stand there while she like tells us all like what
Speaker 1: he's done wrong, and he has to take it. And
Speaker 1: there's something kind of satisfying about that, you know, like
Speaker 1: they would like, you know, do big pimpin and then
Speaker 1: follow it with like a Beyonce song about like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: fucky that pimping away. So we have another night call
Speaker 1: this week about some creatures. Hi, I'm very behind and
Speaker 1: I'm just now listening to you guys talk about whales
Speaker 1: and how whales came from the land, which is creepy.
Speaker 1: But then he talked about hippos and I had to
Speaker 1: call in because, um, I'm obsessed with the story of
Speaker 1: hippos moving to Colombia. So you should definitely look it up.
Speaker 1: But Pablo Escobar had a weird zoo on his property
Speaker 1: and he had all these hippos brought from Africa, and
Speaker 1: when he was arrested, they started escaping. And now Colombia
Speaker 1: has all of these hippos and it's like exactly the
Speaker 1: same climate of Africa, but without the drought. So they're
Speaker 1: becoming the dominant predator. And everyone thinks hippos are cute
Speaker 1: and cuddly, just like Carvel did, but actually they are
Speaker 1: dangerous and terrifying and I think like the second or
Speaker 1: third most like deadly predator. So it's a huge problem.
Speaker 1: And Columbia doesn't want to kill them because Columbia has
Speaker 1: reputation problems and so it's just becoming this like epic
Speaker 1: problem and they're just everywhere and it's an amazing story.
Speaker 1: And I just thought you guys should know. So happy
Speaker 1: night call, I like, happy night call is like a
Speaker 1: as like a greeting or a happy night call, and
Speaker 1: a happy night call, can I just say that good night.
Speaker 1: I loved this call so much. I had never heard
Speaker 1: about this, had you guys know it. But it's fairly
Speaker 1: well documented because as soon as you start typing in
Speaker 1: Pablo Escobar hippos. You get our suggestions. Um tess, you
Speaker 1: were once obsessed with the Fidel Castro's tiny cows, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I mean it just the idea of tiny
Speaker 1: animals is very intriguing to me, but unfortunately they're not
Speaker 1: really real. Yeah, I can't really do so. I think
Speaker 1: this is like a big problem. I mean even you know,
Speaker 1: I think throughout history, but like I guess a lot
Speaker 1: during the Victorian times when people would like the exotic
Speaker 1: pets thing was a big craze. And I saw this
Speaker 1: like very very funny short film for a film festival
Speaker 1: I was during once that was about um, a panther
Speaker 1: that was loose in the Italian countryside, and it kind
Speaker 1: of became this sort of white whale for all these
Speaker 1: old guys. They all wanted to like kill this panther
Speaker 1: that apparently had escaped from somebody's home because they thought
Speaker 1: it would be cool to own a panther. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: so they think twice next time you you decide you
Speaker 1: want to own a raccoon. Actually, raccoons are a bad example,
Speaker 1: but I always fantasized about I watched a documentary about
Speaker 1: raccoons that is very good and on YouTube it's like
Speaker 1: a Canadian PBS documentary or something you can watch where
Speaker 1: one of the things that talked about was like a
Speaker 1: lot of people in Japan getting raccoons as pets because
Speaker 1: of the success of Palm Poco and well that those
Speaker 1: were like tan of keys though I thought so, I thought,
Speaker 1: but it was kind of talking about like maybe it
Speaker 1: was just saying that, like raccoons are brought into cities
Speaker 1: and then they adapt so incredibly well to living in city. Right,
Speaker 1: they're so smart. They're smart, and they have thumbs, they
Speaker 1: have they're fully human. Um, they can practically drive cars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like cars are their main predator in the city.
Speaker 1: That's like their main issue. Back to hippo so real
Speaker 1: quick and Emily found a really good thing on motherboard
Speaker 1: on Vice's motherboard about how the hippos are having so
Speaker 1: much sex and like, I think you're trying to castrate
Speaker 1: the hippos. Um, yeah, they're trying, and they've only succeeded
Speaker 1: in castraaing for it as of this article which was
Speaker 1: from So maybe they've done more. But I didn't understand
Speaker 1: it so much to be that they couldn't kill them
Speaker 1: for reputational reasons. But just that it's like really really
Speaker 1: fucking hard to kill. No, they're huge and they will
Speaker 1: kill you know. Here's the deal. National Geographic did an
Speaker 1: interview with an environmental expert from Colombia and he was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: so this basically Pablo Escars. The state was called Hacienda
Speaker 1: Napoles and Um and it's open as like a theme part.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, so so dark and it's like it has
Speaker 1: like some of them most of the animals were relocated,
Speaker 1: but some of the animals remain, like an ostrich and
Speaker 1: like they claim a rare goat, which like I don't
Speaker 1: know what that means, but neverlands. Yeah, there's there's twenty
Speaker 1: eight hippos at the Haciana and this is from also
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. We could use an update,
Speaker 1: but forty others in like nearby lakes and rivers. But
Speaker 1: the guy was like, so hippos are super dangerous and
Speaker 1: they're the number one deadliest animal in Africa. But he
Speaker 1: was like when people started proposing that they kill the hippos, everyone,
Speaker 1: it was like a huge scandal and everyone was like no,
Speaker 1: because he said he used the word charismatic like three
Speaker 1: times in this rideoun it's very very funny. It was
Speaker 1: like hippos are charismatic, and they you can't eat them.
Speaker 1: You can't eat hippo meat because they carry diseases. So
Speaker 1: you couldn't be like we're farming the hip like you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take the hippos. At least we're gonna eat them.
Speaker 1: You would just be killing the hippos and just to
Speaker 1: like get rid of them. And everybody was very upset
Speaker 1: because it's also I get it. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: knew they were hipp they're really cute. The babies are
Speaker 1: super cute, So I don't know, I'm kind of just scared.
Speaker 1: I've never really had the hippos are cute face because
Speaker 1: their mouths are so terrifying, and I remember just being
Speaker 1: scared of them and the jungle they but they've got
Speaker 1: like round efaces, the baby faces and the tiny little
Speaker 1: twitching crocodile is scary. Well, it's not warmpo even though
Speaker 1: it has like giant teeth. It's like very cute. Um.
Speaker 1: There is a mascot at the park who knows who
Speaker 1: responds to her name, and her name is Vanessa. So
Speaker 1: it's also like you can't like have a hippo mascot
Speaker 1: and then be like, Okay, all of Vanessa's relatives who
Speaker 1: like escaped, you can just like it's open season on them.
Speaker 1: But like, but meanwhile, here's Vanessa, who's like a dog
Speaker 1: who comes when she's called. You know, I want to know,
Speaker 1: like what other species are they decimating? Oh otters and manatees.
Speaker 1: And they're also they also mess up all the rivers
Speaker 1: because that they start algae blooms because of their poop.
Speaker 1: It's too much. Can they can they like put them
Speaker 1: all in like a hippo hippo sanctuary, You probably needs
Speaker 1: so much room though, because I think and I think,
Speaker 1: it's just so hard to round them up. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like I think it's easier to kill them maybe than
Speaker 1: to round them up. That's why when they when when
Speaker 1: Escobar died and all the rest of the animals in
Speaker 1: his menagerie were rounded up and put into zoos and
Speaker 1: you know wherever. But they couldn't they couldn't handle the hippos.
Speaker 1: And also like I think all these zoos were like,
Speaker 1: it's cool, we have one hippo, we don't need more.
Speaker 1: And everyone was like sure, we got like six hippos
Speaker 1: here and they were like, no, we don't want those
Speaker 1: hip because hippos. Yeah, I mean, if you have a
Speaker 1: hippo to zoo, it's like a huge liability. That's someone
Speaker 1: like you know, your kid falls in the cage, goodbye,
Speaker 1: Nobody's going to save the kid because like nobody wants
Speaker 1: to wrestle with a hippo. You know, just dark, dark
Speaker 1: times it is. I say, one of my favorite details
Speaker 1: from this, outside of the hippos themselves, is just this
Speaker 1: actual park that was on his compound, the Hassian and Nipples,
Speaker 1: whose sign if you look it up, just looks like
Speaker 1: the Jurassic Park sign. Yes, it's the same. Fun It
Speaker 1: is so crazy. I don't know. It must be on
Speaker 1: purpose because they have I think they would have been
Speaker 1: like the nineties or something whenever I don't know, or
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't know he died. I don't know a
Speaker 1: ton about it, but like, didn't he build the theme park?
Speaker 1: Is like like the people loved him because he built
Speaker 1: the theme park. Well, I think I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was like because he did do that, he would
Speaker 1: do kind of like civic improvements to be like I'm
Speaker 1: not just selling cocaine, I'm also doing this and that
Speaker 1: and they were like, Okay, but I think I'm investing
Speaker 1: back in the community, right. But a lot of his
Speaker 1: estate was just for his own ship. Like he had
Speaker 1: like a big collection of like vintage cars and like
Speaker 1: a sculpture made out of dinosaur bone, the hippos in
Speaker 1: the vintage cars. There was a go kart, uh like,
Speaker 1: So it's like a Ritchie rich house. It's basically it's
Speaker 1: like that house in life and how where you're like
Speaker 1: the dream house of like a ten year old, like
Speaker 1: a slide from one floor to the bottom floor, zip lines,
Speaker 1: hidden room of candy from around the world. Well that
Speaker 1: does it for this this week's Night Call. Thanks to
Speaker 1: everybody who wrote in and called in. Keep him coming.
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Speaker 1: Swiss secretion. We just want to add a final note
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