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Speaker 1: This is Good Morning Football. We are live in New

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Speaker 1: York City. My name's Kay Adams, Kyle Brandt, Peter Schreger,

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Speaker 1: Chris Carter. I'll hear we have some breaking news to

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Speaker 1: start the morning. So let's bring in our insider Mike

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Speaker 1: Katerfolo to give us the very latest on what's going

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Speaker 1: on with Nathaniel Hackett and the Bronchos. Are they getting married?

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Speaker 1: They RK. The Broncos proposed last night and Nathaniel Hackett

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Speaker 1: said yes. According to our Tom Pellicero, it is now

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Speaker 1: a done deal. Talks heated up last night completed. Nathaniel

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Speaker 1: It is January twenty seventh and we are on the board.

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Speaker 1: It is the first head coaching hiring. You don't usually

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Speaker 1: had a longer season. They've made changes to the protocols

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Speaker 1: for interviews and that has led to a bit of

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Speaker 1: a delay, but we finally got one. Nathaniel Hackett moving

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Speaker 1: He had been in Jacksonville before as a quarterback coach

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Speaker 1: Hackett is the one that impressed and eventually gets the job.

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Speaker 1: Kay and now dan quinnel Eyes are on Chicago on

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Speaker 1: the Giants on the other vacancies. As as usually goes,

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Speaker 1: one domino falls and the rest get filled shortly thereafter.

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Speaker 1: Hackett took over as oc back in twenty nineteen under Lafloor.

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Speaker 1: Since then this team has been second in the league

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Speaker 1: years of experience. At forty two years old, will be

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Speaker 1: the head coach of those Broncos. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Garrefold will talk to you in a little bit. A

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Speaker 1: Paul Hackett, great offensive coach for years USC and of

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Speaker 1: he pulls up this tape of you right now and

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Speaker 1: the tape of you talking about his hand and all

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Speaker 1: of that. Because that's why it's such a good story.

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Speaker 1: A long time, I'll get a Getaford has has support

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Speaker 1: around him. Jimmy still has doubters, which is why it

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Speaker 1: is so compelling. It really unbelievable. There loves three wobbly passing?

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Speaker 1: Are you crazy? Get in here, Mike ge with some

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Speaker 1: breaking news this morning. The Denver Broncos have a have

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Speaker 1: come to term so put a ring on it with

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Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, the Packers offensive coordinator. Currently what is going

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Speaker 1: on there? That is correct, kay, As first reported by

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Speaker 1: our Tom Pellicero, Nathaniel Hackett the Packers offensive coordinator, we'll

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Speaker 1: be shedding that title for a new one Bronchos head coach.

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Speaker 1: This agreed to last night, shortly before Hackett was scheduled

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Speaker 1: to head down to Jacksonville an interview with the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: That's not him, that's still Joe Barry. He Hackett was

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Speaker 1: gonna interview with the Jaguars for their head coaching job,

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Speaker 1: but that one is off. The Broncos closed it out

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Speaker 1: and said, Nathaniel Hackett is our guy, and maybe that

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Speaker 1: guy number twelve will be our guy at quarterback. We

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Speaker 1: shall see what the future holds. Obviously there is interest

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Speaker 1: on Denver's end. Should Aaron Rodgers want to leave Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: we will see about all of that. But I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: the Broncos are hiring Nathaniel Hackett because they like Nathaniel Hackett.

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Speaker 1: They like his energy, they like his smarts, they like

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Speaker 1: everything that they've heard about him. And Aaron Rodgers has

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Speaker 1: not been shy about picking up the phone. Peter Schrager

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Speaker 1: mentioned last hour he called the Falcons and said, last year,

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Speaker 1: this is the guy that you should hire. Rogers has

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Speaker 1: gushed about Hackett publicly as well. So the Broncos are

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Speaker 1: hiring Hackett because they think they got themselves a great

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Speaker 1: head coach. If they get Aaron Rodgers on top of that,

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Speaker 1: that is great. I'll give you one more note here

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Speaker 1: about Hackett and the Broncos. According to me and Ian Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: sources tell us a name to watch for defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: is Rams. Pass game coordinator is Jiro Everro. Now coincidentally,

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Speaker 1: Everro almost got the Packers defensive coordinator job last year,

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Speaker 1: but that wound up not being the case, wound up

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Speaker 1: being Barry, who we just showed there. So Evero a

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Speaker 1: strong candidate and a name to watch for defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: in Denver on Nathaniel Hackett's staff. Ka a new name

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Speaker 1: that I wasn't aware of. Enters the mix. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. Good job in trying to disconnect those thoughts

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Speaker 1: between Aaron Rodgers and the Deva Broncos. We'll discuss it

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Speaker 1: here at the table in a little bitten up. Next,

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Speaker 1: speaking of GM, Yeah, the New York Giants. They announced

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Speaker 1: him yesterday, they had the great press conference. Now we

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Speaker 1: get to meet him as well. Joe Shane, former Bills

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Speaker 1: assistant general manager, is now the headman in New York

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Speaker 1: and they're still looking to hire a coach. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about it after that. Our next guest is a twenty

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Speaker 1: year NFL veteran in front offices. He spent the last

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Speaker 1: five years as the assistant general manager of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: He played a huge role in what has been a

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Speaker 1: major turnaround in Western New York. He's now tasked to

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Speaker 1: do the same thing in a different part of New York.

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Speaker 1: Try Broadway, Try East Rutherford, New Jersey. Let's welcome to

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Speaker 1: the breakfast table, the Giants newest GM. Mister Joe sho Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. How's everybody doing right? We are

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Speaker 1: doing great. Welcome to the New York market. I know

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Speaker 1: you got your first taste of it yesterday with the

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Speaker 1: welcoming press conference, but I'm gonna go First things first,

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna give you any softballs. The Giants need

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Speaker 1: a head coach. Brian Dabos there a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores is coming. Today we read that Leslie Frazier's

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Speaker 1: in the mix. A matter of semantics though, for the

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Speaker 1: Giants fans at home, who is selecting the Giants head coach?

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Speaker 1: Is it the general manager or is it the ownership

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Speaker 1: or is it a collaborative effort and what is the

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Speaker 1: goal of that head coaching higher. Yeah, it's John Marras,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tish, Chris Marron, myself or in each of the interviews.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we're going through an extensive process, you know,

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Speaker 1: vetting all the candidates, and you know what we're looking

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Speaker 1: for is, you know, somebody that can work with me.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll be in lockstep in our vision and

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Speaker 1: in terms of how we want to build the team.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking for somebody that can that can

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Speaker 1: lead a group of men, you know, through good times

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Speaker 1: and bad times. The ability to to put a good

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Speaker 1: staff together, you know, will be very important to me.

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Speaker 1: You know, we got to have good offensive coordinator, a

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Speaker 1: good defensive coordinator, you know, good assistant coaches, because typically

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Speaker 1: what gets you to the head coaching position in terms

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Speaker 1: of calling one side of the ball or the other,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to have as much time to you know,

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Speaker 1: sit in a room and you know, come up with

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Speaker 1: defensive schemes for for six seven, eight hours a day

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Speaker 1: or you know, offensive schemes. So you know, the ability

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Speaker 1: lead man hi hire a good staff. You know, intelligence

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Speaker 1: is important. You know, emotional intelligence is very important to

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Speaker 1: me in terms of handling the ups and downs in

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Speaker 1: the NFL season. You know, as a leader of the team,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have to have that steady presence. You know,

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Speaker 1: you got to be able to weather the storms. So

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Speaker 1: so those are some of the characteristics I'm looking for.

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Speaker 1: And again, I know, you know, people don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear it's a collaborative effort, but it really is like

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Speaker 1: we're going to vet these um candidates and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be through with our search and you know when we're

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Speaker 1: gonna come up with the best candidate for the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants. And if there's some things we disagree on,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna keep digging until we come to

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Speaker 1: the you know, to the correct answer and make the

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Speaker 1: right decision. Joe the skeleton department there in Buffalo, you

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Speaker 1: guys built something special. Much of that started with the

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Speaker 1: controversial of selecting Josh Allen. Can you take us back

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Speaker 1: to that first draft there in Buffalo, what you guys

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Speaker 1: saw in Josh Allen and more importantly, what other people

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Speaker 1: didn't see, and why those six other teams didn't draft

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Speaker 1: him before you. That's a good question, Chris is uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, we did an extensive research on all the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that were draft eligible for the twenty eighteen draft,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Josh stood out to us, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting playing in Buffalo. If you look at the weather

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Speaker 1: we had to play in this year. I mean we

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Speaker 1: had several games where there was rain, wind snow, just

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Speaker 1: not ideal conditions. So you know Josh's size, the fact

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Speaker 1: that he played in weather, you know, bad weather, snow

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Speaker 1: up there in Wyoming, his athleticism, his strength, and more importantly,

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Speaker 1: who he was as a person. You know, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I know some of you on this show has spent

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Speaker 1: time with Josh and just understand that he's a better

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Speaker 1: person than he is a player. And he's a great teammate,

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Speaker 1: and he's a great leader, and you know, we thought

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Speaker 1: the world of Josh and that that kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: separated him from the pack because he had the physical ability,

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Speaker 1: but then who he was as a person, you know,

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Speaker 1: really allowed us to come up with our conviction is

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Speaker 1: Josh is being our guy to lead the franchise. You're

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Speaker 1: all over at Joe And yet you know, we got

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Speaker 1: Tommy online two and Fill online six, and they're calling

557
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Speaker 1: in to say that the Giants are too old school.

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00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: It's always about Coughlin, it's always about Parcelves. They're too

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Speaker 1: tied to the tradition and the teams of yesteryear. Question

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Speaker 1: to you, how do you plan on modernizing the draft

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Speaker 1: process for the Giants and free agency to take this team,

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Speaker 1: this entire organization into the next decade. Yeah, I'm probably

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Speaker 1: I was fortunate when I came in the league because

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Speaker 1: I worked with some old school, you know, Scouts and

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00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: got some exposure to the old school way of how

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Speaker 1: things were done. So that really kind of set my

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Speaker 1: foundation in place. But you know where I am agewise

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Speaker 1: and technology able to evolve and and teach myself how

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Speaker 1: to use technology, you know, whether it's analytics, whatever it

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Speaker 1: may be. I'm still getting used to what their process

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Speaker 1: is here, what's in place, But I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: open to any avenue that will give us a competitive advantage. Again,

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Speaker 1: whether it's data and innovation, analytics, direct you know, if

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Speaker 1: we get a director research and strategy, if it's analytics

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00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: in game, if it's analytics helping us you know, pick players.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to drive the process. But any piece

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Speaker 1: that will allow us to give a competitive advantage, we

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Speaker 1: need to be open to that, and we need to

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Speaker 1: continue to challenge the organization to go out and find

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Speaker 1: those resources or find what will give us a competitive advantage. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to leave any stone unturned and we're

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Speaker 1: going to continue to look for, you know, any way

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Speaker 1: that will help us win. But do you have the quarterback?

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Speaker 1: As the question? Joe, congratulations too, Welcome to Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 1: This weekend. You got Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: all playing all first round picks and they're planning for

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Speaker 1: a chance to go to the superle then a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. So the jury is still out on whether

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Speaker 1: or not Daniel Jones can be one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: How do you evaluate your current quarterback? Yeah, listen, Daniel

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Speaker 1: has physical qualities that I like. He's got size, you know,

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Speaker 1: he can throw the ball, He's athletic. You know, has

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Speaker 1: had production to me. You know, again, we just talked

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Speaker 1: about Josh Allen and that draft class I reflect on.

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Speaker 1: You know, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen too, probably the

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Speaker 1: most successful quarterbacks out of the draft. Well, you know

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Speaker 1: what are they have in common? You know, they had

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Speaker 1: the same coach, They've had the same offensive coordinator, and

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Speaker 1: I think at that position, continuity is very important. You

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Speaker 1: look at Daniel Jones, He's gonna be on his third

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Speaker 1: head coach and he's had a multiple offensive coordinator. So

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Speaker 1: you know, the constant change is not ideal. And John

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00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Merris said it yesterday. You know, we've done everything we

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Speaker 1: could possibly to screw up Daniel Jones. You know, the

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Speaker 1: lack of continuity. So you know, my goal is to

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Speaker 1: get the best offensive staff in here, offensive coordinator and

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Speaker 1: build the offense around what Daniel does best. You know,

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Speaker 1: people talk off a little about the offensive line, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna look to upgrade the offensive line and that

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Speaker 1: won't only make Daniel better, but you know that I'll

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Speaker 1: give you know, say, kwant a chance to be the

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Speaker 1: best version of himself. So I'm excited to work with Daniel.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to get the coaching staff in here. You know,

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Speaker 1: let's find out what he does best and let's build

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Speaker 1: the offense around him and his strengths. Joe, I thought

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Speaker 1: Ryan Dunlevy at the New York Post and a beautiful

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Speaker 1: story caught up with your father, who found out the

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Speaker 1: news while driving a freight truck at a Walmart and he's,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm the parking lot found out And the

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Speaker 1: article tells us that he was crying tears of joy

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Speaker 1: because his son is finally getting this opportunity. I think

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Speaker 1: it's such a cool story. Your story is so cool.

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Speaker 1: And now you go to this Giant's franchise, which there's

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Speaker 1: a Giant's mystique. It's real, and it starts with the history,

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Speaker 1: but it also starts with the fans. So, just from

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Speaker 1: your small seventy two hours in this gig, what has

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Speaker 1: been the fan reaction and what is your message to

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Speaker 1: that fan base, who, like your father, could be tearing

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Speaker 1: crying tears of joy if you can bring this team

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Speaker 1: back to relevance and back to the top of the NFL. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's obviously a very passionate fan base, which I love.

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Speaker 1: You know, I want everybody to be passionate about the team.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I know about the history of the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants and the success they've had, and you know,

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Speaker 1: that's where you know, I'm hoping to create, create a culture,

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Speaker 1: you know, build a team where we can create our

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Speaker 1: own history and you know, we get the team back

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Speaker 1: to where it was. But you know, I know what

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00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: happened in the past. I know what's happened in the

640
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: last four or five years here in terms of what

641
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: the record is, and it's not good enough. And I

642
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: know what the New York Giants fans deserve and I

643
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: want to I want to bring a winning team to

644
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: the franchise as well. But again, like I said yesterday,

645
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen overnight, and I get it.

646
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, people want to know expectations. But we're gonna

647
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: build this the right way, and we're gonna bring in

648
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, young players, We're gonna set a you know,

649
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: a foundation, and we're gonna build on that foundation that

650
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: will allow us to sustain success over time. And again,

651
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: the fans want to win. Now, I understand that we're

652
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: going to try to compete for today and build for tomorrow. Um,

653
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, starting with you know, the new head coach

654
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: getting in here and going into free agency in the

655
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: draft this offseason. Joe, I think you passed the test

656
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: on our shit, Joe, Joe, come on out, Joe, Yeah,

657
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: go bring the Giants based on friend. Thank you so much. Yeah. Hey,

658
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Speaker 1: I'm am a big fan of the show. You know,

659
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: it's it's fun to you know, always watch you guys

660
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: on Monday. I'd only watch you guys Monday morning after

661
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: a win, you know, I'd be too depressed after a loss.

662
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: But really respect to what everybody does on this show,

663
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Speaker 1: and I love watching you guys. You guys do a

664
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Speaker 1: great job. Means a lot. We appreciate you saying that

665
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: you're welcome anytime and hopefully next time in person. We'd

666
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: really love that. Sounds good. I'll take you up on that.

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Speaker 1: Happy Thursday, three sleeps until Championship Sunday. It is an

668
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Speaker 1: honor to welcome our next guest. One of the best

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Speaker 1: defensive players in the league, All Pro leading San Francisco

670
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: and tackles for the fourth straight season. He's now headed

671
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship game for the second time in

672
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: three years. He's the reason I have to talk about

673
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in his future this week instead of those

674
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: Packers getting set to maybe go to the Super Bowl.

675
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Speaker 1: Please welcome to the show, forty nine Ers linebacker Fred,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, guys, thank

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00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: you and thanks for being here. And it's very early

678
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: on the West Coast. And congratulations. This game was epic,

679
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: so hard fought, grinded out thirteen to ten walk off

680
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: win against that top seed on Saturday. After the game,

681
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: I loved you. You let it all out on the

682
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: frozen tundra. Take a look, Fred, what was the scene,

683
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: What were the vibes, what was the locker room? Like?

684
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: Tell us everything I'm getting I'm getting a little bit

685
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: of chills right now. Watchedon like, I mean, that was

686
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: I will remember like this game, this moment for the

687
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: rest of my life. You know, the faithful our fan

688
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: base is obviously I'm biased, but they're the best in

689
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: the world. Um you know, they travel well anywhere we go,

690
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: and to be out there in the freezing cold to

691
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: watch us play and win that game was really special.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to show love to them. But man,

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Speaker 1: I mean you talked about it just at the end

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Speaker 1: of that game, like everything that went into it, just

695
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: being able to just kind of let, you know, let

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00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: all the emotions out, and um you know, that was

697
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Speaker 1: one of the best wins I've been a part of

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00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: for sure. So glad to hear you say that, because

699
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: even from our perspective, it felt special. All the things

700
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: you've accomplished that one was incredible. Help us with this.

701
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: You're in lambo, it's in the snow. You're going against

702
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: this team that's rested and explosive and rogers and device it.

703
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: They're all out there. Dude, they scored ten points against

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00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: you guys? Ten points? How did you do that? I

705
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: mean it wasn't easy. You saw how you mentioned, you know,

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00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: the rest of they have all these exposed players, and

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00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: you saw it in that first drive. You know, they

708
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: came out humming. Uh you know, they kind of walked

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00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: us down the field for a touchdown and we kind

710
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: of had a rally together on the sideline and just

711
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: tell one another that we had to just tighten up

712
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: in a few areas. But um man, just our our

713
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: defense has continued to get better and better each week,

714
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: and we're playing as as a full unit. You know,

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00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: it's not just one or two guys playing well, you know,

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00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: we're all working in unison. And I think, you know,

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00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: our leader, Damiko Ryan's kind of you know, calling the

718
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: plays and and setting the standard and and you know,

719
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: continuing to raise the standard for us each week. I

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00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: think we're you know, we're just going to continue to

721
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: keep growing. All right, Let's talk about Demiko because when

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00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: Robert Sala took the job in New York, a lot

723
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: of folks are at off that Niners defense and then

724
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: you guys are three and five and it looks like

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00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: the unit would just never be the same without coach Sala. Well,

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00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: here's Demiko Ryan's former player, who played on a team

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00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: that was coached by Kyle Shanahan, coached by Mike McDaniel,

728
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: coached by Richard high Tower, and now he's the coach himself.

729
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: How has Demiko Ryan's taken your unit under his wing

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: and put his own spin on that Niners defense. Well,

731
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Speaker 1: I think it's the same exact way that he played

732
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: the game back when when he was a player. Is

733
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: the exact way that he coaches. He brings so much

734
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: passion to the game and especially to being a coach,

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00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: and we feed off of him. He comes in every

736
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: every day to work the exact same person, you know,

737
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: the exact same you know passion that he coaches with.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what, it doesn't matter if we're down

739
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: or if we're up. You know, he's the exact same

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Speaker 1: And so I think that kind of just allows us

741
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: as a group to have so much confidence in him.

742
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: And I mean his play calling is is amazing, you know,

743
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: and so with Salo, but I mean Demiko just and

744
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: clutch moments, some of the calls that he makes and

745
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: seeing them, seeing them work and have success, it gives

746
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: you so much more confidence as a player, um, you know,

747
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: and as a group for the guy leading you, Fred,

748
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: you're one of my favorite players to watch. And really

749
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't believe people give you enough credit. And one

750
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: of the reasons why earlier this season you did what

751
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: a lot of great players don't do. You aren't satisfied

752
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: with the level of play that you had, and you

753
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: talked about it, and you talked about how not obtaining

754
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: your goals was eating away at you. And you don't

755
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: see great players make themselves vulnerable. But in the second

756
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: half of the season. You corrected that fifteen tackles in

757
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: week number seventeen. Tell me about that whole process to

758
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: get you to peak and get back to that all

759
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: pro level that I fell in love with watching. Yeah, absolutely, Chris.

760
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: You know, and like you mentioned, it's hard as football

761
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: players for us to be vulnerable, right and to to

762
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, look inward and see like, Okay,

763
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: where where can I be better? And you know, or

764
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: to say that you're not you're not performing the way

765
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: that you should. And uh, you know, I knew that,

766
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: and I had such high aspirations and goals for myself,

767
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, you know, things weren't going my

768
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: way throughout the year, especially early on, but I just

769
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: stayed at it. I stayed consistent. You know, I'm a

770
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: I'm a man of great faith, and I know that

771
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: my timing was coming. Um. You know, I know that

772
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: I've been a great player in this league, and I

773
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: still am. I knew that the entire way. I just

774
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: knew I had to kind of buckle down and really

775
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: dial in on the details and continue to work hard.

776
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: And I have such a great group around me that

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00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: I have no choice but to be great you know,

778
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: for them. And you know, people on our team inspire

779
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: the heck out of me. And you talk about George

780
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: Kittle and Deebo, Samuel, Trent Williams. Uh, you know, I

781
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: can go go down the list, you know, Nick Bosa,

782
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: all these guys. They inspire me to want to be

783
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: my best. And you know, now we're at a point

784
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: of the season where we need everybody's best, you know,

785
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: including myself, and I'm just willing to do whatever I

786
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: can for the team to win just one more game. Well,

787
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: you've beaten the Rams twice, and so it's interesting that

788
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: you are facing in the NFC title game with thesc

789
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: of Rerenger. He's out there supporting you said, it's the

790
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: best fan base in the world. How do you prepare

791
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: for this game? Like you have a couple of days,

792
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: three days to go, where's your focus? Knowing that this

793
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: is a team that you face twice, it's face due

794
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: twice and you've got a third bout to go to

795
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl for the second time in three years. Uh. Yeah,

796
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: it's unique for sure. I've never played a team three

797
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: times in one year, so I'm sure they would say

798
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: the same. It's it's a it's a unique situation. Um.

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00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: You know. I think the reason why we've had success

800
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: in previous games is because we just treat each game

801
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: as its individual you know, as its individual battle. We're

802
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: not We're not going into as saying, oh, well, this

803
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: is the this is our our sixth game against him,

804
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: or our third game against them. No, this is this

805
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: is one game. You know, this is this is a

806
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 1: different team each week, just like we're a different team

807
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: each week, and we have to treat it as such,

808
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: you know. And they are obviously one of the best

809
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: teams in the league, and that's why they're at this

810
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: point just like we're at this point, um, you know,

811
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: and so we have to we have to go into

812
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: it at just as detailed, if not more detailed, and

813
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: locked in on point, focused throughout the work week as

814
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, as we've as we've ever been, you know,

815
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: just for this one game. We love it. Fred Warner,

816
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: good luck to you. I know, I saw on Instagram

817
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: you have a new house. You're doing big things. Maybe

818
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: we'll have a Lombardi trophy to post somewhere in there

819
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: sometime soon. That's right. I appreciate you guys. Good luck,

820
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: Fred Warner Go do your thing out in La this weekend.