1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're now on from one to four, so check 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: us out of the podcast. If you cannot listen to 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: these three hours live, go to KFI AM sixty dot 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: com or the iHeartRadio app. Fifteen minutes away from another keyword, 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: you jump in there with that keyword and you could 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: win a thousand dollars in the KFI Cash Refield Contest. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: We'll talk a bit about the Tyree Nichols police beating 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: in Memphis. A couple of other things have come up today. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: Plus of course there's Friday night they dropped the video 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: of the beating by five police officers and how a 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: sixth has been suspended. We'll get to that right now. 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: Our guest is going to be MARKA. Corey and executive 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: director of the Center for Immigration Studies. Because a few 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: weeks ago, after mayors like New York City's Eric Adams 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: and some officials in El Paso, Texas started really squawking 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: about the crush of migrants that their cities and towns 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: are taking on, Biden did a little dry by appearance 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: in El Paso, Texas on his way to Mexico, and 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: then they announced some changes to border policy. This was 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: to make everybody think we're dealing with the problem. Don't worry, 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna get better. It won't be as 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: many people rushing into the US. But you know, to 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: get what's really going on, that's all we bring on Mark, Mark, 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: how are you. I'm doing fine? You know, we need 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: you to decode all these uh false stories and press 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: releases and all the spand of nonsense here to explain 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: to us what does the Biden administration claim they're doing 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: and what is really going on. The only thing missing 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: is a big mission accomplished poster, you know, behind the 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: president for the border, because basically they're saying they fixed it. 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: And what they did was they said that four of 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: the nationalities that are sending a lot of people across 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: the border that are not now being bounced back under 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Title forty two will be that's people from Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: and Haiti. So there now if they cross illegally, they're 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: going to be sent back. Although only thirty thousand a 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: month Mexico has agreed to take. So numbers, mister thirty 38 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: thousand and one, we'll just get let in. But the 39 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: point of that that's kind of a stick and they're 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: offering the carrot of letting thirty thousand a month of 41 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: the people from those countries into the United States under 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: what's called parole, which is basically something he doesn't have 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: the authority to do. And so the point of and 44 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: so what has happened is because of that news, the 45 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: numbers actually have gone down because there's fewer. I mean, 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: the Cuban zick Or Islands and Venezuelans and Haitians are like, jeez, 47 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, let me hold off. Don't want to get 48 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: bounced back. Maybe they'll let me in quote legally unquote. 49 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: So the numbers for January at the border will be lower, 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: there's just no question about that. The problem is they're 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: going to go back up because those are just four countries. 52 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: What about the other one hundred and ninety countries of 53 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: the world, and some of those countries, people from those 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: illegals from those countries hopping the border had been going 55 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: The numbers have been going way up. People from Peru 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: and Ecuador and Colombia, even India and Turkey have huge increases. 57 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: Now the numbers started lower. Turkey, Yeah, there's rocking thousands. Yeah, 58 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: there's there's a number of Turks illegally coming. The number 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: of December, the number of Turks and the number of 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: people from India's triple what it was the previous December. 61 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: So again it's starting from a lower level, but it's 62 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: growing rapidly, and places like Ecuador and Colombia, those numbers 63 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: are actually in the tens of thousands now being apprehended. 64 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: So they're not I mean, what are they going to 65 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 1: do to them? Give everybody? Do you know how how 66 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: the system works that you could get that many people 67 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: from Ecuador or Turkey or India. I mean, are they 68 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: advertising online? Well, I don't know, probably online or Facebook 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: or what have you, but they don't. It's also you know, 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: word of mouth. But the point is they're clearly the 71 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: smugglers are clearly advertising the Biden administrations policies. And so 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: while initially remember it was people from what they call 73 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: the Northern Triangle of Central America, those countries, well they're 74 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: still coming, but that's kind of yesterday's news because the 75 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: word is spread. So now you're getting people from every place, 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: Uzbekistan and Mauritania and you name it. Because if you can, 77 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: if you can either pay for it or you can 78 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: go into hawk and basically work. You know, it is 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: a dishwasher for ten years to pay it off. Under Biden, 80 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: you're getting in and getting let go. So the smugglers 81 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: are able to fly these people out of their home 82 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: countries or at least a range for you know, the 83 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: air transportation, and then land them in Mexico and then 84 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: help them over the border here. Yeah, I mean if 85 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: you have if you have money, you can go straight 86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: to Mexico. Sometimes what they'll do is they'll go to 87 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: Cuba and then they'll go to Ecuador, which has foreigners 88 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: go to Ecuador because they'll loose visa rule. And then 89 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: you make your way by bus and buy foot and 90 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: what have you, all the way up through like what 91 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: is that nine other countries or something. It's quite basically 92 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: say now I want political asylum, having passed nine countries 93 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: where you could have been app political asylum. Well this 94 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: talk about this parole ploy here? Now who can who 95 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: can apply for this? He said, there's an actual app 96 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: that you use to get paroled. Yeah, there's a parole 97 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: is an app called CBT one. It's like you know 98 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: the Open table app. We're making reservations. Well, this is 99 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: the Open Borders app. Basically. And the thing is that parole. 100 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: It's not criminal parole. This is immigration proles, a different thing, 101 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: and what Congress made. It's in the law. It's a 102 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: legal thing, except Congress intended it for a handful of cases, 103 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: emergency cases, medical emergency you have to be let in 104 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: to testify at a trial and then leave the next day, 105 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. This administration has taken at little 106 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: tiny loophole and blown it open to basically swallow the 107 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: whole immigration system. So the president is basically freelancing his 108 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: own parallel immigration system that this year could let in 109 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: close not quite maybe half, maybe more than half actually, 110 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: of the equivalent of the total legal immigration system. He's 111 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: just making this up, freelancing it on his own. It's 112 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: just it's not sustainable, and it may be stopped in court. 113 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: It's so ludicrously illegal that there's already two lawsuits against it. 114 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Florida filed one, and then Texas along with nineteen other states, 115 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: file one more recently. It's probably going to be you know, 116 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: put on hold and then then what I mean, they're 117 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 1: doing this to get these people out of the border. 118 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: Arrest statistics that are reported every month, that's the whole point. 119 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: It's not to reduce the flow, it's to make it 120 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: go away from the news. High from the news. It 121 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: looks you know, I don't think they're going to succeed 122 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: in being able to hide it from the news, both 123 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: because this program is going to be i think put 124 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: on ice by the courts because it's obviously illegal, and 125 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: everybody else who's gonna want to get in on the action, 126 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: from Ecuador and Turkey and you name it. This is 127 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: the motion is not accomplished. This is the most aggressive 128 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: administration on illegal immigration that we've seen. And I'd never 129 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: expected Biden would go this far. Of course he may 130 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: not know what's going on, but this this really is 131 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: a shock, isn't it that they went this far? Yeah, 132 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: it really is. This is the most radical immigration administration ever. 133 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm yearning for the good old days of 134 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: the Obama administration on immigration. And you know, I don't 135 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: know how much of this is Biden, like you said, 136 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I'm not one of these people where 137 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: he's you know, god Alzheimer's or something, but he's an 138 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: old guy and he's kind of a figurehead president. But 139 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: on immigration, they have basically handed the policy to these 140 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: advocacy groups. So these groups they don't believe in the boarder. 141 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: They think it's wrong. In other words, immigration law is 142 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: like jim crow or what would you call it, the 143 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: jimito qu quervo, I guess is what it would be 144 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: in Spanish. They think it's wrong. And so if they're 145 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: subverting immigration law, they actually kind of see themselves as 146 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: heroic in doing that, like they're parts you know what 147 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean, And you're right. The media coverage I noticed 148 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: after this was announced wasn't so much questioning this new 149 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: parole thing. It was covering activists who were angry about 150 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: those four countries Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela and Haiti being subject 151 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: to Title forty two expulsions. That was the only coverage 152 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: I saw, right giving covered not enough. It's not enough, Yeah, yeah, 153 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: giving cover to Biden to make it look like he's 154 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: being too tough. Yep, yep, all right, Mark, thank you 155 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: so much. As usual, you really make it clear what's 156 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: really going on with the border. Yeah, unfortunately, but anyway, 157 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: happy to come back anytime. Oh sh Marcael Corey and 158 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, and again 159 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: slight of hand. When you hear this term immigration parole, 160 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: it's just the Biden administration's way of putting that category 161 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants into another category, which would be quote legal, right, 162 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: So they'll no longer be part of border arrest and apprehensions, 163 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: but they're coming in just the same and hopefully one 164 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: of these lawsuits will stop it. John and Ken, your 165 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: chance for money is next with a keyword kf I 166 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: am six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio. All Right, 167 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, you have to be the world we live 168 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: in today and the way the media covers it or 169 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: whatever you look at online covers it. You have to 170 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: just understand what you're looking at because there really is 171 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: a divide in the way things are covered. Now. You 172 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: know what websites and what media outlets to go to 173 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: to probably see coverage that might appeal to you in 174 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: terms of your belief system, your ideology, and there are 175 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: other ones. You know. It's oh my god, they're going 176 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: to exaggerate everything. So you have to approach this police 177 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: beating in Memphis, Tennessee the same way, just to be sure. 178 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: This is of course, the twenty nine year old man 179 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: by the name of Tyree Nichols. It was driving one 180 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: night at January seventh in Memphis and he got pulled 181 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: over by police officers. We're still not sure why there 182 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: was supposedly reckless driving, but now they're saying they don't 183 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: really see evidence of that. We're not sure why he 184 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: was pulled over, but anyway, late Friday, they did finally 185 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: release the footage that was taken from bodycam and apparently 186 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: also from like a street lamp or a street light 187 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: had a camera two that was fixed on a lot 188 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: of this scene. I don't know how much of this 189 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: you ended up watching, John, I watched a bit of it. Yes, 190 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: I saw the main arts. He was chased, pepper sprayed, 191 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: and of course beaten for what. We don't know. One 192 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: media side of look at It says they call it 193 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: contempt of cop. They just didn't think he was obeying 194 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: them and was respecting them, so they decided, well, now 195 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: you're going to get it. Sounds dated, doesn't It sounds 196 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: like something. And they did say there was a lot 197 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: more of that back in the eighties and nineties, and 198 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of faded away. That kind of behavior by 199 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: police officers who feel like you've got this common because 200 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: you're not listening. The video shows them kicking him at 201 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: least twice in the face, striking at least three or 202 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: four times of the baton the upper body, punching him 203 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: at least four times to his face, punching at least 204 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: two more times of the upper body, kicking at least 205 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: twice in the abdomen. These are five police officers. The 206 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: first video is from an officer's body camera, lasts about 207 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: eleven minutes. They pull them out of the car and 208 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: he yells, I didn't do anything. Get on the bleep 209 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: and Brown, I'm gonna on the bleeping ground. I'm going 210 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: to taze your ass. One of them says, I'm on 211 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: the ground. In fact, The New York Times has a 212 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: story where the headline is seventy one commands and thirteen 213 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: minutes officers gave Tyree Nicholls impossible orders. Supposedly, somebody sat 214 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: down and analyzed these videos the audio, and this is 215 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: what they found. That there were seventy one commands in 216 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: thirteen minutes. The officers the orders were given a two locations, 217 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: one near where nichols car was and the other in 218 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: the area he had fled to. Apparently, it seemed like 219 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: he was trying to run home because he decided this 220 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: isn't safe from me. So his parents' house wasn't far 221 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: from there, and he did make a move to get 222 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: out of there. But you know when you always hear 223 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: about people, well, you know it's what happens if you 224 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: don't comply. Well, it seems like he was trying to comply, 225 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: couldn't please them. They just felt like doing a beat down. 226 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: That's how I read this. I don't know how else 227 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: to yeah, to interpret this. That's what some cops enjoy doing. 228 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: It says they got in the business. Some commanded him 229 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: to show his hands, even though he's already they were 230 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: holding his hands. They told him to get on the ground, 231 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: even though he was already on the ground. They ordered 232 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: him to reposition himself even when they had control of 233 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: his body. So these are the kinds of strange commands 234 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: that they were giving that just made no sense to 235 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: people reviewing the situation, Well, because what they wanted to 236 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: do was beat them up. That all five what you 237 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: said is in the story. It used to be prevalent. 238 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: This is the way cops approached their job. They were 239 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: they were masters of their universe. And you had to 240 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,479 Speaker 1: bow and kiss their kiss their feet, and its slightest deviation, 241 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: then they're gonna they're gonna beat your ass, maybe to death, 242 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: because that's what they wanted to do. That's what they 243 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: got to charge out of it. This was very much 244 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: a frenzy I had had to be because for all 245 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: five of them to do this, or most of them, apparently, 246 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: was one cop that tries to render aid to Nichols 247 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: sitting there. What happens in riots, right? In riots, when 248 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: you have a group that is suddenly smashing windows, right, 249 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: or setting fires, you'll get more people jumping in to 250 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: smash more windows and do their share of looting. You 251 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: see this in bar fights, right, two guys punching each other. 252 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: Third guy comes in and throws a chair, and pretty 253 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: soon there's there's ten or fifteen guys. I've seen it 254 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: at sporting events where fights break out in the stays 255 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: or sometimes actually on the field or on the rink. Right. 256 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: This kind of behavior is contagious and they feel like 257 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: we're all part of a team. It's us against the world. 258 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: Nobody gets to disrespect us. This respect thing is really powerful. 259 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: It's powerful in gangs, it's it's it's it's powerful. Uh. Well, 260 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: you see it kind of in football, right, God forbid 261 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: somebody on the other team says something disrespectful. Uh, you know, 262 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: until a reporter before the game, right, and then the 263 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: whole team is using it as fodder to go out 264 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: and bust heads motivates. Yeah, it's part of human nature. 265 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know what this guy did. They they 266 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: they they committed a murder there, and they all ought 267 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: to go to prison for the rest of their lives. 268 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: They should get the death penalty. I'm gonna put tom 269 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: the bleep out of you. Give us your hands. Another 270 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: one says, I'm going to break your bleep. I mean, 271 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: but I just I just notice how muted the demonstrations 272 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: were because there wasn't white cops doing this. I mean, 273 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: it's it's well, I thought this would evolved into just 274 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: a protest against policing. You're right, you got to take 275 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: the race out in and out of it. But they're 276 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: still activists who don't want the police. Whether they're black, white, 277 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: or Latino Asian, they think that the police is too much. Yeah, 278 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: they may have that ideological belief, but the real energy 279 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: that creates violent protests and riots comes from the racial aspect. 280 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: If you don't have the racial aspect, you're just not 281 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: going to get the same reaction out of people. They 282 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: don't they don't feel as passionate about police abuse as 283 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: they do about white police abuse. And the other thing 284 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: that happened is they were charged with murdering before the 285 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: video was released. Now and the George Floyd story that 286 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: didn't exactly work in that order. They really and as 287 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: you said, there were cops of several races involved in 288 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: the George Floyd beating, but in the knee on the 289 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: chest to back. Yeah, this is what you do to 290 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: try to preempt some of the violence, is you release 291 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: the video immediately, and you arrest them immediately, and you 292 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: throw the book at him. You give them the most 293 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: serious charges possible, so that which is the way it 294 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: always should have been handled. Now, there is also questions 295 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: about the response of the paramedics to the scene. Apparently 296 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: it's twenty eight minutes that Tyree Nichols is kind of 297 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: lie on there and not really reacting that before the 298 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: paramedics actually trying to give them any aid. How many 299 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: times have we heard that too? And they're wondering if 300 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be looked into yeah, and possibly charged They 301 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: This is this is a subculture within the most police 302 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: departments in big cities. There there there, It's never gonna 303 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: go away. It's probably not as big as it used 304 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: to be, but it's You're still going to get these 305 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: stories occasionally. No matter how many, how many how many protests, riots, 306 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: finger waggings, scolding diversity classes you send them to, You're 307 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: still going to get this because it's embedded in human nature, 308 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: it says here EMTs eventually leaned Nichols over and checked 309 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: his pockets or moved his wallet. Then they talked about 310 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: what they found. It was a while before, it says 311 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: one expert says, you are right. It doesn't matter what happened. 312 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: If somebody needs medical aid, you get there, you take 313 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: their BP, you give oxygen, you do whatever you have 314 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: to do. And it seemed like they didn't do that 315 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, it was a special unit, and 316 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: I think they felt especially important. Well that's what we're 317 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: going to talk about when we come back. Apparently in 318 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: Memphis they had something called the Scorpion Unit, which was 319 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: a special unit which was supposed to really weed out 320 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: the worst of the crime in that city. It has 321 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: been disbanded. We'll talk about it. Johnny kenn k if 322 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: I am six forty live everywhere the I heard radio 323 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: app Well, we'll get him reconnected in a minute. So 324 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: the Scorpion Unit, five members of the unit. They're the 325 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: ones who did that murderous beating and the video footage 326 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: you saw of Tyree Nichols on Friday. And again it 327 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: was five black officers. And they also have a black 328 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: female police chief, first African American woman to lead the 329 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: Memphis Police Department. And her name is Saralyn Davis. And 330 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 1: when she took over as the police chief in twenty 331 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: twenty one, she saw in a few months that the 332 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: murder numbers were headed towards a record, and she saw 333 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: near her home she lived downtown in Memphis, the drivers 334 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: were driving wildly through the streets, especially late at night. 335 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: And so she's sitting there thinking, well, I'm the police chief. 336 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: I got to do something. So she created this Scorpion Team. 337 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: It was an acronym for Street Crime Operation to restore 338 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: peace in our neighborhoods. And she told the cops to 339 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: focus less on writing tickets and more on an all 340 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: out strategy of seizing cars from the most dangerous drivers. 341 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: Violent offenders had to be targeted with a new urgency, 342 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: and if the state couldn't take a case to court, 343 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: her agency should ask federal prosecutors to take the case instead. 344 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: So she went out with full out war these crazy drivers, 345 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: and I guess all the other crime that was going 346 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: on in the in the region while the officers, forty 347 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: of them assigned to this new strike team, at least 348 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: these five took it real seriously. And this I don't 349 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: have statistics, but I just get this sense over the 350 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: years when you when I've read about a group of 351 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: officers going nuts and committing this kind of crime, they're 352 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: usually part of some kind of special unit. They've got 353 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: special orders, and I think that inflates their their ego 354 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: to some extent, and it makes them feel like we're 355 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: the good guys. We're going after disgusting scum, which is true. 356 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: Often they are going after disgusting scum. But you know, 357 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: there's limits to what you're allowed to do. Now, Chief 358 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: Davis is look and at her this unit that she 359 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: created and became a Frankenstein monster, and she had to 360 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: admit that the attack was heinous and inhumane. There is 361 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: a guy named Van Turner, who is a mayoral candidate 362 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: president of the NAACP and Memphis, and he said, we 363 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: still want crime addressed in our communities, but we don't 364 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: need to kill innocent people to do it. And this 365 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: is what happened. The crime was bad, a unit like 366 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: Scorpion was needed. But human nature being what it is, 367 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: some guys get filled up with this sense of power, 368 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: this sense of being you know, the kings, the rulers 369 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: of the streets, and they have to be obeyed. They 370 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: start acting like like gang leaders. The city was bragging 371 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: about the Scorpion team for months. They said this was 372 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: an overnight success because murder rate was bad in Memphis. 373 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: They had more than three hundred murders in twenty twenty one. 374 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: To compare it, New York City, which is thirteen times larger, 375 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: had fewer than five hundred. So New York's thirteen times larger, 376 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: but Memphis has about sixty percent of the murders that 377 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: New York does, So you could see the murder rate 378 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: was really high there. Something had to be done. I 379 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: mean often these units come out of a good idea, right. 380 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: Just a few days after they announced the Scorpion Unit, 381 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: one TV report said that Memphis Police credited with making 382 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: thirty arrests, seizing twenty nine guns one hundred and seventy 383 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: grams of marijuana by January. At twenty twenty two, the 384 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 1: Mayor Jim Strickland gave his State of the City speech 385 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: and said this Scorpion Unit had made five hundred sixty 386 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: six arrests in less than a year, three hundred ninety felonies, 387 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: seized one hundred and three thousand dollars in cash, two 388 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: hundred seventy vehicles, two hundred and fifty three weapons. So 389 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: they were doing a terrific job, this Scorpion Unit. It's 390 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: what the city needed. It gave the streets back to 391 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: Memphis residents and away from all these vile criminals running around. 392 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: In fact, Chief Davis gave a presentation to the city 393 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: council bragging about how the crime is getting curtailed. Curtailed, 394 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: there was a slide titled crime Reduction. First bullet point 395 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: was the Scorpion Unit. This unit targets some of the 396 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: hotspot areas where we saw frequent aggravated assaults and high crime, 397 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: and the power just went to their heads. They became 398 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: violent bullies. According to one activist, and people in the 399 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: streets got the message that if a Scorpion unit pulled 400 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: you over for a traffic stop, you had to expect 401 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: there was a possibility of violence, and the general public 402 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: was afraid of this unit. But again, the unit did 403 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: the job up to that point when it committed a murder. Now, 404 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: maybe we're going to find out they unnecessarily roughed up 405 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot of other people. I don't know how many 406 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: injuries and deaths came out of that. This occasionally happens, 407 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: like in New York City they had aggressive squads known 408 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: as anti crime units, often the cops. They're dressed in 409 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: plain clothes. They were there to get guns off the street, 410 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: and they had made a huge share of gun arrests 411 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: in the city, but the stop and frisking led to 412 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: police shootings and led to all kinds of issues with 413 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: activist groups. Also on Memphis, there there was drag racing, 414 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: stunt driving. Four lanes of traffic on an interstate were 415 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: blocked with drivers doing donuts on the highway, and you know, 416 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: it swings from lawlessness to end up with a real 417 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 1: true police state where people were terrified that if they 418 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: got pulled over for speeding or running through a stop sign, 419 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: they might get beaten to death. So that's the story 420 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: of the Scorpion Unit. Started out as a good idea, 421 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: and then these thug police officers got out of control 422 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: and killed somebody more. Coming up, John and Ken Shugg 423 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: coming up after three o'clock. We're gonna Blake Trolley from 424 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: Cafeie News with whatever new details there are. I'm at shooting. 425 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: Three people got shot to death, were murdered in the 426 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: Benedict Canyon area. Four were wounded. There has been very 427 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: little information over the last thirty six hours coming from 428 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: police in the media. Everybody's tiptoeing around this one. Actually, 429 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: this is one block from where I lived for fourteen years, 430 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: so I know that neighborhood really well. And this is 431 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: an impossible for me to imagine that this event would 432 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: occur and some reason, the police are very reluctant to 433 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: release details and the media is very reluctant to cover 434 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: it in any great depth. So I know there's a 435 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: story here and I'll talk about that and like Trolie 436 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: will be on to tell us what he knows. There 437 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: is a little bit of new information out, but compared 438 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: to the media frenzy over the Monterey Park shooting and 439 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: even the half Moon Bay mushroom farm shooting. This one 440 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: is somebody's the media's muzzled on it. Really. All right, 441 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: we have some animal stories for you. Yes, I've been 442 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: waiting all day. Okay, Well, don't get too exciting because 443 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: you never know what's coming. Well, this could be stuff 444 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: that's upsetting. Oh I hope not. You don't want to 445 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: h upset me, do you? Oh? Yeah? Oh okay. In fact, 446 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: we usually have a meeting you do, and one of 447 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: the topics is how do I upset? How can we 448 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: have upset Debora today? Will you guys do a good job? Yeah? Well, 449 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Now, you were particularly excited that the 450 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: dog that was in the car with the hunter, that 451 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: the dog had reached out from the back seat and 452 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: shot the hunter to death. Well, I wasn't particularly happy, 453 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: but I did say, karma you were you were getting 454 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: and it was an accident. But but I I said, 455 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, the dog didn't want any of its other 456 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: furree friends to be injured, and so the dog had 457 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: to do I thought you were laughing about it. No, John, 458 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: no rooting for the dog. Oh, I would never laugh 459 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: at something like this. All right, Well, um, fisherman, you 460 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: get upset over fishing all day. I can't stand when 461 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: I see fisherman or fisher fisher ladies whatever, when they 462 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: when they have the fisher lady. I don't know. I'm 463 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: trying to be politically correct here. Not here. Well, you 464 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: don't get the emails that I get. It's I don't 465 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: read emails. All right, Get this one. A diver was 466 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: decapitated by a great white shark in front of horrified 467 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: fishermen off the coast of Mexico. Uh Manuel Lopez was 468 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: scuba scuba diving from mollusks near San Jose Beach in 469 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: Tamari Bay when a nineteen foot long shark attacked him 470 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: about three weeks ago. Well, Pez was in his fifties. 471 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: He had his head torn off by the shark. Yeah. Wow, 472 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: and I can't even imagine. So this was a mollusk hunter. 473 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: So did he get what he what he deserved? There? Well, 474 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean that is kind of gruesome, But you know, 475 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: let's just leave the animals alone. That's what I'm gonna say. 476 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm sort of taking the faith here. 477 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: You're taking a neutral stance. Well, he had his head 478 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: ripped off, and that's terrible. It is, but I think 479 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: we need to just leave the animals alone and then 480 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: we won't have these types of issues, right. Yeah. The 481 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: shark also started biting his shoulders, so he wasn't I 482 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: guess after the head popped off. Well, they have a 483 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: fisherman here, Jose Bernow. He was a witness and he 484 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: said he was diving when the animal attacked him, ripped 485 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: off his head and started biting both shoulders and the 486 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: Lopez had been diving without an air tank to about 487 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: sixty feet. He's collecting a mollusk called an ex tripe. 488 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: It's like a scallop, scooping it up from the ocean floor. 489 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: When the shark came and that was it. I never 490 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: heard of a shark doing that, ripping a head off. 491 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: I haven't either. This was a very aggressive, angry shark 492 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: or very hungry I don't know. Apparently was sick of 493 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: the moloks mollusks being disturbed. It's upsetting. The diver was 494 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: in the shark's territory. They think it was a great white. 495 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: They can be twenty feet long way up to two tons, 496 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: and they have three hundred razor sharp teeth, and they 497 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: can swim at thirty five miles an hour, and they 498 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: have a very powerful sense of smell. That's why I 499 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: don't like going in the water very infrequently. Will I 500 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: go in the water? Yeah? I mean, well, man, you 501 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: would be a meal. You're a one bite. I know, 502 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 1: my head wouldn't be ripped off. I would just be 503 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: one quick swallow. No, that's right, one bit. You'd be 504 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: seeing what the inside of a shark looks like. Oh God, 505 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm afraid of sharks. I have to say. Now, we 506 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: got another animal story out in the water. They have 507 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: a rash of dead whales washing up on the coasts 508 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: along the East. Nine whales, two sperm whales, seven humpbacks 509 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: have been found dead off the coast of four East 510 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: Coast states in the last two months. Five beached in 511 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey and there are some Now this has caused 512 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: a split in the environmental camps because some of the 513 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: environmentalists insist that it's the wind farms that they're building 514 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: out in the ocean. They're they're building windmills anchored in 515 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: the ocean floor. Cindy zip Is with clean ocean action said, 516 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: the wave of dead whales in the ocean sounds the 517 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: alarm you must eat the warning. These are tragic, multiple 518 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: deaths of mostly young, endangered whales, But the only new 519 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: activity is over eleven companies in the ocean building these 520 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: wind farms, harming tens of thousands of marine mammals. Now 521 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: the other environmental groups are saying no, no, no, no, 522 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: we need the wind farms to fight global warming. So 523 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: what are they so? What are they saying? I mean, so, 524 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: what do they think is the problem then? Or do 525 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: they think that could be a problem, but we don't 526 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: want to get rid of the wind farms. Well, they're 527 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: trying to blame it on everything else, all the other 528 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: climate change, plastic pollution, bad fish management practices which I 529 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: guess kill so many fish the whales have nothing left 530 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: to eat. I have read that they think something is 531 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: disrupting the hearing and the radar mechanism that the whales 532 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: use to travel and communicate, and it's got something to 533 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 1: do with the construction of the wind farms, but they 534 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: have not nobody's made an official connection. The pro whale 535 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: group is just saying, hey, the only new thing going 536 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: on is wind farm construction, so that has to be 537 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: the reason you've got all these dead whales, and the 538 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: other side is saying, well, you don't have any proof 539 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: of this. There's one government official who said, I'm skeptical 540 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: that either side is correct. Environmental groups are saying the 541 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: wind is definitely the cause. It's just gonna it's gonna 542 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: take a lot of time to figure this out. Well, 543 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: it's sad, no matter what the I mean, seriously, no 544 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: matter what the reason, it's it's very sad that we 545 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: have all these dead whales. Yes, it is sad, sadder 546 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: than the guy who had his head ripped off by 547 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: the shark. Yes, okay, so your hierarchy, it is Saturday 548 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: have nine dead whales because this guy was going hunting 549 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: and it was an accident, right, and the dog didn't 550 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: do it on purpose, I don't think. But again, yeah, right, 551 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: it's going to use that famous short karma, right. Okay, 552 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: so you're you support the dog that shot the hunter 553 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: and he support the sharp accident. I don't. I'm not. 554 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a good thing that this man died. 555 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,239 Speaker 1: I would never say that, but I mean, look, you 556 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: have a dog, you would just have a rifle, and 557 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: you didn't have the two of them in separate places. 558 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: And this is what I understand. All right, coming up, 559 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: Blake trolley is going to come on. It is It 560 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: is not often that you have a mass murder and 561 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: a shootout in your old neighborhood, but that's that's what's 562 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: happened here my old neighborhood where I spent fourteen years, 563 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: just a block up from my house, massive shooting early 564 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: Saturday morning, about three in the morning. Three dead, three 565 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: women dead in a car and four wounded, two of 566 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: them critically outside the car. And none of the local 567 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: neighbors were involved. Because I lived there a long time, 568 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: I never met anybody who looked like they were capable 569 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: of engaging the shootout. So we're you're going to hear 570 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: about what a short term rentals AIRB and B style 571 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: rentals can do to neighborhood. And people are angry in 572 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: the neighborhood over this. John and Ken Show. Deborah Mark 573 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: has the news KFI AM six Sporting