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Speaker 1: Welcome, and I'm Doug Gotti.

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Speaker 2: This is all fault and I'll give this all ball.

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Speaker 1: I come up with Max Rice after his thirty five

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Speaker 1: point performance in a win at the pit.

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Speaker 2: Now, personally, I have a great relationship with Max.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've done a ton of mountain less games

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Speaker 1: throughout his career, and I almost it's weird, right, Like

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Speaker 1: there's some people who come across in my business who

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Speaker 1: they're just Maybe it's because he's a coach's son, he's

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Speaker 1: been around it. But from the moment he shut up

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Speaker 1: at Boise like he wasn't a regular college kid, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't give a shit about the media, and

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Speaker 1: that's something didn't bother him in terms of doing it.

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Speaker 2: It's just very, very comfortable, and.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me another guy who I've I've kind of

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Speaker 1: befriended and cheer for is Stephen Ashworth at at Utah State.

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Speaker 2: There's just a level of emotional maturity if you have.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting is going into that game BJ Range, who

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Speaker 1: covers boys to you, I also consider a friend, but

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Speaker 1: he's like the guy for Boise State basketball. I guess

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Speaker 1: Max was pissed because Max hadn't been shooting well or

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Speaker 1: playing well.

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Speaker 2: And BJ kind of game the business a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm not really sure in what context, but Max kind

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Speaker 1: of iced outlocal reporters. But I mean, that's just it

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Speaker 1: really like it's like talking to a thirty five year

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Speaker 1: old man. So I think the Mountain West is fascinating.

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Speaker 1: So let me just kind of give you a couple

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Speaker 1: thoughts here as we head into this interview. Look, it's

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Speaker 1: an unbound schedule, and I thought, you know, Utah State

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Speaker 1: and Nevadas surprised everybody in the non conference UTAs date,

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Speaker 1: probably more so because they had so many defections. Nevada's

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Speaker 1: got an old team and both played not a soft

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Speaker 1: non conference schedule, but not anything really challenging. And then

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Speaker 1: because of where they're thought to be in the league,

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Speaker 1: their league schedule isn't as difficult as some others. Right,

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Speaker 1: you're not playing I don't know, I don't have in

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Speaker 1: front of me to play.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If you played New Mexico twice, in San Diego State twice. Really,

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Speaker 1: that's how you know if somebody thinks you're gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: If you played Caloro State twice, Sandy State twice, and

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Speaker 1: New Mexico twice and maybe Buoise twice. Like, those are

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Speaker 1: the best teams in the league, and the best teams

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Speaker 1: play the best teams gets what TV wants. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know who wins the league. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: it ends up being San Diego State. They're not as

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Speaker 1: dominant as they were last year, but there's parts of them.

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Speaker 1: You know, they've changed up their lineup several times, and

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Speaker 1: they've had some impressive wins of life. Utah State losing

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Speaker 1: and home of Nevada was surprising, but that kind of

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Speaker 1: even it's out for the fact that they shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: beat in UNLB, you know, they just shouldn't have. And

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Speaker 1: now Utah State their schedule gets a little bit more difficult.

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Speaker 1: We'll see where that lands Nevada, you know, they're off

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Speaker 1: the deathbed and now kind of back as players. You

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Speaker 1: have Colorado State, great non conference, probably state tournament team. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they have some weird losses. You got Utah State, who

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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden they've lost a couple and

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Speaker 1: will see how they bounce back with some of their

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Speaker 1: bigger games on the schedule. And then you have New

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Speaker 1: Mexico who is kind of swimming along great at home,

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Speaker 1: not as good on the road, and then they lose

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Speaker 1: at home to and of course, boys see a team

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Speaker 1: that you know, a Dagenheart and Max Rice. That's a

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Speaker 1: good group, and it took them a while to kind

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Speaker 1: of figure it out. Like I don't think it's crazy

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy at all. I mean, look

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Speaker 1: around the country. The ACC is not good. It's just

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Speaker 1: not nothing you're new to to prove otherwise. The Pac

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Speaker 1: twelve is not good. The West is massively down at

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Speaker 1: the top. The middle is still really good, Like you know,

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Speaker 1: Santa Clara is good, well, marymount is still disappointing, Pepperdine

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Speaker 1: is not very good. Obviously losing BYU hurts them. But

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Speaker 1: gon Zach is not a dominant team anymore. And Saint

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Speaker 1: Mary's has cranked it up another undefeated league and probably

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Speaker 1: wins the league. That's a one and maybe two bid league,

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Speaker 1: but probably a one bid league. So whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to think about the Mountain West, however good they actually

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Speaker 1: some older teams that were ahead of the curve. Whatever

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Speaker 1: it is like based upon the metrics they belong in,

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Speaker 1: and then based upon just kind of the eye test

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Speaker 1: of like watching of these other teams, it's like, seriously,

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Speaker 1: what about the ACC deems those teams worthy?

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Speaker 2: About the Big Ten?

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, do I think that Michigan State is

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do they play ridiculously hard schedule, Sure, But there's plenty

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Speaker 1: of teams in the Big Ten that I guess we

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Speaker 1: put on the bubble that we're pathetic in the non conference,

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Speaker 1: And isn't that how we judge the good teams are

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Speaker 1: kind of a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, The season's shaping up to be a fascinating I

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Speaker 1: also want to talk post trade deadline stuff and who

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Speaker 1: I like and who I don't like, but we'll get

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Speaker 1: into that in future pods. In the meantime, enjoy this

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Speaker 1: is me catching up with Max Rice. Remember they had

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Speaker 1: just beaten New Mexico on the road to drop thirty

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Speaker 1: five points. I think it's like a second or third

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Speaker 1: shoty shot in airball. He's talking shit to the crowd.

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Speaker 1: Max is the best dude. You'll love this.

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Speaker 2: Here's Boise State star senior guard Max Rice.

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Speaker 3: Max.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's start with coming into the year, Right, You've

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Speaker 1: been doing this a long time, right, and Tyson's one

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Speaker 1: of your closest friends. You're playing for your dad, but

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Speaker 1: you've been doing it a long time. Coming here, is

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Speaker 1: there any sense of like, am I really gonna do

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Speaker 1: this again?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely coming back for a sixth year. People know

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Speaker 3: who you are and going through the process again is

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Speaker 3: just sometimes it gets repetitive, but if you love the game,

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Speaker 3: it'll be worth it in the end, and games like

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Speaker 3: like last night I had make it worth it. So

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great decision for me to come back,

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Speaker 3: and I'm really enjoying the journey.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what's it been like? You know, it hasn't

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Speaker 1: you guys didn't get off to the start you wanted.

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Speaker 1: What's what's this year been like for you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean after I think I had a really good

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Speaker 3: year last year, and coming into this year, I think

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the pit now look one of the things. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: it's probably the historically significant place in the league, but

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Speaker 1: the league has all kinds of different kind of cool

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Speaker 1: venues in terms of places you enjoy playing before last night,

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Speaker 1: right like, you drop thirty five and you're the only

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Speaker 1: team to beat New Mexico on their home floor, that

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Speaker 1: immediately becomes like your favorite road place to play. But

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Speaker 1: coming into last night, you've played all these places in

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Speaker 1: the league. What's your favorites?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's so many good ones.

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Speaker 3: In the Mountain West, I've always enjoyed playing at Viejas Arena.

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Speaker 3: They got some great fans down there. They're respectful, but

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Speaker 3: And then the list just goes on and on. Playing

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Speaker 3: in Laramies, I've always played pretty well there. That's been fun.

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Speaker 3: And then the Pit obviously is the pinnacle of all

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Speaker 3: Mountainless has just been a goumt this year, and playing

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Speaker 3: an honor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's interesting you mentioned Laramie. You're old enough.

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Speaker 1: You played before they redid the place, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't think I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not.

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Speaker 1: It's not that it's they just got redone like four

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I didn't even know.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that ends this old you can't remember anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, exactly, I've been here too long, but I was.

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Speaker 4: I've been Bois so long. Linder was in.

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Speaker 3: Boise when I was Bois, so that's crazy and what

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Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, so previous to last night, how would

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Speaker 3: I mean not so much in the I haven't played

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's got me going. I think that's

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Speaker 3: my second career high I've set against them, which is

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Speaker 3: awesome considering they're a top twenty team. But Platino's a

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Speaker 3: great coach and I love playing against them and they compete.

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Speaker 1: So okay, so what's it like? So I try and

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Speaker 1: tell people all the time, but you actually experienced it

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Speaker 1: in playing there. Okay, so if you had to, Okay,

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Speaker 1: first you pull up, it kind of looks like a

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Speaker 1: costco right, it's not right, it's not one of these buildings.

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Speaker 1: You're like, wow, it's just kind of a box that

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Speaker 1: says the pit on the side, right, Is that a

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Speaker 1: fair description?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And then when you walk in, you go there's a

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Speaker 3: to the core, and it's kind of intimidating. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're right about the looking at it from the outside.

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Speaker 1: So you're in there and you know they have that

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Speaker 1: big ramp. Now, did somebody get the ball to So

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Speaker 1: one of the things that most teams do is you

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Speaker 1: roll balls up and down the ramp to see if

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Speaker 1: you can get it all the way up the ramp, right,

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Speaker 1: because the ramp feel it feels like it's a mile long.

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Speaker 1: It's probably I don't know, what do you think? How

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Speaker 1: long do you think that rat? How wrong is that ramp?

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Speaker 1: I know a couple hundred feet long?

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Speaker 1: Did anybody get the volve the ramp?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: We One of our red cher sophomores, Kobe Young, got

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Speaker 3: it up there. And from what I've heard, only like

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Speaker 3: I think Kawhi, Leonard, Paul George, some of the big

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Speaker 3: name guys that I've seen do it, John Tanja did

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Speaker 3: it last year, and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kobe Kobe Young to the illustrious list of of

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Speaker 1: John Tanjay and uh Kawhi and Kawhi Leonard okay, so

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Speaker 1: and Paul George and Paul George right, which one of

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Speaker 1: these is not like the other? So, you guys lose

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Speaker 1: a heartbreaker to Utah State on Saturday at home? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So honestly, like, what's the feeling like when you're warm,

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Speaker 3: Not that I didn't play well, I just haven't. I've

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Speaker 3: I feel like everything I do is amplified on another level.

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Speaker 1: Was there ever a thought like your dad, he's close

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Speaker 3: Oh? I mean if if he if Leon came up

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Speaker 1: Okay, so last night you're like, we got to win

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Speaker 1: And then they're chaining airball air ball and Snake sitting

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Speaker 3: I mean, going into the game, I knew even if

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Speaker 1: Uh. So you had you had these people thinking about

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Speaker 3: To that game that was That's kind of my mindset, like, uh, basically,

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Speaker 1: When was the last time you had that same kind

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Speaker 1: So you win, you dropped?

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Speaker 1: Thirty five? Thirty five Ty Crew High describe that feeling

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Speaker 3: we can just close this one out. Because I didn't

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Speaker 3: And there's nothing better than the winning.

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Speaker 4: On the road.

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Speaker 3: Remember him, legendary coach. He's on our staff now. Actually

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Speaker 1: What is so you can tell tell me what what

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Speaker 1: my expression on road winds is road winds are better

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Speaker 3: So anyway, it's like teammate, my Mormon teammate was sitting

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Speaker 4: The summer and he's like, God, it sex that good geez.

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Speaker 1: Some day some day. Now, people don't know Boise is

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Speaker 3: And I remember during the game, Tabouzo came out to

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Speaker 1: All Right, you got you air Force come next, so

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Speaker 1: then you go to Spectrum, which, as you said, they're

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Speaker 1: you guys just lost them in a heartbreaker in overtime. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what so what do they what do they say?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 3: Every time the Mountain West Instagram page posts anything with

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Speaker 3: Max Trice, give me cancer, my grandpa. All sorts of

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Speaker 3: They find they go to my mom's Instagram, they find

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Speaker 4: As a kid. Uh.

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Speaker 3: They have a Max Trice tantrum tracker.

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Speaker 4: They got all sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, the tantrum trackers better. When I played it

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Speaker 1: It was amazing. Well, I mean, you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: me the first time, and then after that it was

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Speaker 1: after that was the it was. It was the brick

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Speaker 1: and meter. So Colorado State is just they're just good

443
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Speaker 1: fans and they're a fun style. You guys beat them,

444
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Speaker 1: by the way. That was your probably signature win before

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Speaker 1: before this one.

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Speaker 4: And go back to the credit card.

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Speaker 3: Leo said, you stole a credit card one time?

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Speaker 4: Is that true?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I was.

451
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Speaker 1: I was a freshman at Notre Dame, starting point guard.

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Speaker 1: We get done with the season, and yeah, my dumb ass,

453
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Speaker 1: I was in a dorm room. I was in somebody

454
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Speaker 1: else's dorm and I was working on their computer. This

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Speaker 1: is again you're trying to tell people. This is like

456
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Speaker 1: literally before the day's of the internet, right, we had

457
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Speaker 1: to like type out your stuff on the on somebody's

458
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Speaker 1: app Apple, like their Mac computer, and then save it

459
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Speaker 1: and then bring it in the next day or something.

460
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I used somebody's first. I used somebody's credit

461
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Speaker 1: card and then put it back so like they didn't

462
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Speaker 1: I thought they wouldn't know, and then did it like

463
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Speaker 1: two other times two other people, and then tried to

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Speaker 1: act like it was no big deal. And then when

465
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Speaker 1: I got home for the summer, they called me. They're like,

466
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, this kind of looks like you on the

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Speaker 1: store footage. It's shout from a high and so yeah,

468
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Speaker 1: that was that's why I didn't stay at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Huh, wife of a broke college kid.

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Speaker 4: It's all good.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't just stupid, not broke, you know,

472
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Speaker 1: just kind of arrogant and like thought people like I

473
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Speaker 1: remember people all the time like why'd you do it?

474
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Speaker 1: I was like, well, because I thought I'd get away

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Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, dumb shit. So yeah, so then, you know,

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Speaker 1: so back then it was in sports illustrators in you

477
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Speaker 1: know USA today, all the front page, all the papers,

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Speaker 1: Sporting sports, Sports Center as well, like it was a

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Speaker 1: big thing. And then you know, you kind of go away,

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Speaker 1: you go away for a year, you come back and

481
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Speaker 1: you know, most people you felt like didn't know. Nobody

482
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Speaker 1: asked you about it. People didn't know about it. And

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Speaker 1: then we go to Oklahoma and we were really like

484
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Speaker 1: we were surprised in the league and most of my

485
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Speaker 1: teammates knew something about it. And then I ran out

486
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Speaker 1: and the court got introduced and just like two thousand

487
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Speaker 1: credit cards came raining down from the student section.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome. So you guys win.

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Speaker 1: We did we did? Oh wow, we did win? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's oh how things have changed? So so okay, so

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Speaker 1: you you call your dad leon? When was it? Have

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Speaker 1: you ever called him coach?

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Speaker 3: Uh? I think maybe five years ago in a game

494
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Speaker 3: I called him coach or and it just didn't feel right. Uh,

495
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Speaker 3: So I switched to Leon just because it's a good

496
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Speaker 3: I called him dad in a game and I remember

497
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Speaker 3: someone looking at me weird. So then I just started

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Speaker 3: calling him Leon. I didn't really want to call him coach.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And I think Leon just sticks better. And I like

501
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Speaker 3: telling people I'm adopted anyways, it kind of it kind

502
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Speaker 3: of makes it easier on my life.

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Speaker 1: So, uh, he's a big art. Is he the big

504
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Speaker 1: peanut butter and jelly before game guy? Or is that you?

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Speaker 4: Is?

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Speaker 1: It? Was it a player who turned him into He's

507
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Speaker 1: a big peanut butter and jelly guy?

508
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

509
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Speaker 3: He His diet is super weird, so I mean, yeah,

510
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Speaker 3: he eats nuts a lot. I'm sure PB and j's

511
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Speaker 3: he kind of eats like a kid, a little bit.

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Speaker 1: PB and J. Maybe some cheetos, some macaroni and cheese

513
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Speaker 1: and and and a juice strength like a Caprice center

514
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Speaker 1: or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe an energy drink, a little red Bull keep

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Speaker 3: them up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you are the mayor. Now that you had thirty

518
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Speaker 1: five on the road, you're back to your mayorial status

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Speaker 1: in Boise. I tell people all the time Boise is

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Speaker 1: the greatest city ever, that that you're never going to visit, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I should really go to Boise and people

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Speaker 1: don't do it, which I know people and boys like

523
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Speaker 1: don't tell them. It's nice. We're tired of you fuckers

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Speaker 1: moving in here. We got it. Give me the the

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Speaker 1: best restaurant that you like going to in Boise U.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think Boise is the faster, fastest growing city the

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Speaker 3: last five years. So people are coming here and they're

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Speaker 3: recognizing how how amazing it is. No traffic really and

530
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Speaker 3: beautiful outdoors. So best place to eat I'd probably say.

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Speaker 4: That's tough.

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Speaker 3: My favorite place is Red Robin, But best place.

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Speaker 1: To your favorite place is Red Robin?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I like they do have handcrafted, handcrafted burgers. Okay, so

536
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Speaker 1: what's the order at Red Robin? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Probably a crispy chicken sandwich with some unlimited fries and

538
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Speaker 3: maybe like a nice shake or something.

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Speaker 1: What flavor shake?

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00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, flatbread, flatbreads to get pizza spot.

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Speaker 1: I like, yeah, flatbreads. It's a chain. I've had it.

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Speaker 1: It's really good and it's in Uh, it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of No, it's it's it's good. Spot. What flavor shake?

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Speaker 4: Probably could getting cream solid?

545
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, whipped cream and cherry or just just.

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Speaker 4: A shake whipped cream? No cherry?

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Speaker 1: Why no cherry? Just only cherries?

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Speaker 3: I don't know a cherry guys kind of gross.

549
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Speaker 1: No, it is kind of gross when you think about

550
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Speaker 1: it's just a weird it like visually looks cool and

551
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: then you're like, this does not fit at all. It's

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Speaker 1: no shake.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of random.

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Speaker 1: It is kind of random. It's one of those random

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Speaker 1: things that we've all just kind of acquiesced to and

556
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Speaker 1: decided that it's it's okay to have uh, okay, last

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Speaker 1: last thing for you for let you go in in

558
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Speaker 1: uh in your mind. Okay, if that's the perfect way

559
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Speaker 1: to play your last game at the pit. Okay, give

560
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Speaker 1: me a goal for a couple of things you want

561
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Speaker 1: to do here before this sixth season comes to an end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, obviously, winning an NCAA tournament game is top of

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Speaker 3: my list. If we do that, I feel like I've

565
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Speaker 3: really accomplished everything I could have possibly done for Boise

566
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: doing that, and then I think just just making a

567
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Speaker 3: nice little run.

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Speaker 4: Here at the end.

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Speaker 3: Every time we play a road game, Leon comes up

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Speaker 3: to me like, it's the last time you're going to

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Speaker 3: play here in the pit, so let's make it worth it.

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00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: And I think that's kind of been working somewhat on

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Speaker 3: the road. So winning down here on the stretch. And

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Speaker 3: my biggest thing is going into the conference tournament.

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Speaker 4: With no sweat.

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Speaker 3: I don't like being on the bubble. Going into the

577
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Speaker 3: conference tournament takes off a lot of pressure because that's

578
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Speaker 3: when a lot of teams like just really turn it

579
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Speaker 3: on and that's when you.

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Speaker 4: See a lot of these upsets.

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Speaker 3: So just going into the conference tournament sweat free and

582
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Speaker 3: going into the NCAA tournament and making a final mark

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Speaker 3: on that tournament and win the game.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, man, I'm really happy for you. I know,

585
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Speaker 1: like you do a good job of laughing off all

586
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Speaker 1: the negative bullshit and whatever, but to go and drop

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Speaker 1: thirty five of the pit win the game. That was awesome.

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Speaker 1: It was really really cool and you should feel amazing.

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Speaker 1: And now keep it going, man, and I'm thankful for

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Speaker 1: the time that you spent with us. Appreciate you join us.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that, Gottlie, but I hope to see you

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Speaker 3: in Utah.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's it for this edition of All Ball.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you tune into the radio show. I will

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Speaker 1: point out that we're at the super Bowl this week.

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Speaker 1: some really cool, fun stuff with great interviews, and I

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Speaker 1: think mine are different than most people from the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl because though we hit the plugs, we also talk

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Speaker 1: some deep shit with a lot of people. Anyway, enjoy it.

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