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Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday, Ready to roll. Joel klatt Nick right,

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Speaker 1: It's the Herd wherever you may be, however you may

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Speaker 1: be listening. Thanks for making us, Jmack and I part

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Speaker 1: of your day. You know, Jamack, I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: something this morning, an overarching theme to start the show

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Speaker 1: for the first ten or twelve minutes. And I eat

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Speaker 1: basically the same breakfast. I have the same roudine every day.

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Speaker 1: in the treadmill ma'am an English muffin, have a smooth

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Speaker 1: before the show. And I live as much as everybody's

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Speaker 1: searching for new stuff. If I, for instance, want to

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Speaker 1: watch sports on TV, I go to NBC, Fox, CBS.

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Speaker 1: I know where to go. I don't go to Netflix.

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Speaker 1: I don't go to Hulu. I go to the standard

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Speaker 1: places where I've always watched sports. And I have this

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Speaker 1: theory about the NFL that we think you never know

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Speaker 1: who's going to win these games. But I believe for

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Speaker 1: two reasons, the NFL is going to get Starting three

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Speaker 1: years ago, you're seeing a trend much more predictable. And

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Speaker 1: that's my jumping off point today is this. So when

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Speaker 1: I make NFL predictions, now I have two more tweaks

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Speaker 1: to my predictions. I'm always looking for new teams to

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and the one team I've looked at

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Speaker 1: is Joe Burrow is going to make the playoffs. Right,

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Speaker 1: So I want to go to a quote from the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post about a general manager talking about the Bengals

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Speaker 1: and he talks about Mike Brown and he says, it's

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Speaker 1: the same old my Brown bs said one general manager

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Speaker 1: condition of anonymity to avoid violating the NFL tampering rules.

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Speaker 1: It's the same crap that's been going on since boomeras

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Speaker 1: Siazin and Carson Palmer. History always repeats itself. And I've

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Speaker 1: said this before. If Carson Palmer would have gotten like

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Speaker 1: a Sean Payton or an Andy Reid. We would consider

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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer a top four or five quarterback. Ever, and

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Speaker 1: I worry that Joe Burrow, same organization, same ownership, It's

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Speaker 1: going to be the same thing. If Joe Burrow gets

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Speaker 1: and Andy Reid, he's hoisting the trophies, not Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: And I really firmly believe that. So I've thought about

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Speaker 1: playoff teams, right because there's like seventy year right, well

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Speaker 1: not actually last three years. It keeps coming down. Why

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Speaker 1: is that happening? So we have many camps, OTAs and

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Speaker 1: have new information. So I looked over my predictions. I've

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Speaker 1: in his prime. The Patriots are the safest double your

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Speaker 1: win total bet in the league in five years, Dolphins Jets,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't change a thing. AFC North prediction. Ravens are

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Speaker 1: one of the top three organizations in the league. I

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Speaker 1: think because of all the noise around the Bengals, all

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Speaker 1: So if I was to make an AFC West prediction

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Speaker 1: or can I. So there's more games than ever. Right,

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Speaker 1: as much as everybody myself included wants change. The NFL

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Speaker 1: when the college Football Playoff was created, here's what you heard. Oh,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna help the deeper roster, the richer organizations, the

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Speaker 1: Jay Meck, I know that could be a downer, but

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Speaker 1: we're all creatures of habit and everybody's seeking new stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you know, in New York, if you could get

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Speaker 3: Like, you know, last week on vacation, I didn't wake

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Speaker 4: But now you're back and like, that's kind.

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Speaker 3: Of one of the first things you.

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Speaker 4: Do, right, You got to see what's up on sports

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I think I understand people seeking new.

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Speaker 1: Nick right top of next hour, Joel Klatt two. You

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Speaker 1: first is joining us, so on what's up, buddy, Good

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Speaker 1: to see you. You know you don't want to make

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Speaker 1: too much of little stuff, but I do think little

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Speaker 1: stuff I always call the drip drip drip becomes a

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Speaker 1: faucet that's leaking. And I've got last year, and I've

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Speaker 1: got Mini Camp and now I've got the Net video

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Speaker 1: with Caleb Williams, and I'm like, shouldn't I be a

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Speaker 1: little uneasy with the moodiness, the accuracy? It's a I mean,

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Speaker 1: I watched Shaydon Daniels and Vo Nicks. They were good immediately.

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Speaker 1: Can I have questions about what I say with.

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Speaker 7: Jones Williams Mac Jones good immediately too? I mean, the

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Speaker 7: good immediately is not always the right answer. Here's the

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Speaker 7: thing this, I do not care about him missing these passes,

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Speaker 7: especially because either the day before or the day after

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Speaker 7: this video, I'm not sure the sequence of it. In

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Speaker 7: this exact drill, he went five for five right into

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Speaker 7: the bucket, so it's.

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Speaker 3: Not we know he can make that pass.

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Speaker 7: The only part of this video that I is bothersome

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Speaker 7: to me is that part the reaction. I do think

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Speaker 7: that Caleb, as an an emotional guy, needs to recognize

447
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Speaker 7: his responsibility as the leader of the team and the quarterback,

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Speaker 7: and needs do a better job of.

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Speaker 3: Keeping his cool.

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Speaker 7: So when he was in college, people made a big

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Speaker 7: deal of the after the loss, I forget to whom,

452
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Speaker 7: when he was with his mother and appeared to be crying.

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Speaker 7: I kind of stayed out of that because it felt

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Speaker 7: like a lot of the criticism there was a wink

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Speaker 7: and a nod, criticism of he paints his nails, he

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Speaker 7: carries a purse, now he's crying, and I felt it

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Speaker 7: was undoward. What I do think would have been fair criticism,

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Speaker 7: and his fair criticism is whether it would have been

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Speaker 7: him crying or if he had flipped over the gatorade

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Speaker 7: table and broken a cooler. We want our quarterback to

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Speaker 7: be level headed, to be, you know, calm in the storms,

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Speaker 7: and I think that I do think that is an

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Speaker 7: area he needs to improve.

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Speaker 3: But I saw you yesterday, Colin. You know you.

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Speaker 7: Sold just a few of your Kleeb shares. And let

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Speaker 7: me tell you, I had my brokers scoop him up.

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Speaker 7: I was like, you know what he's gonna He's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Sell them the dip.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna buy it all, take more of the Kaleb

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Speaker 7: stock and so and we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I think he's going. I think Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 7: Is trying, not in that drill, but trying to throw

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Speaker 7: a lot at him. Is fine with him struggling, is

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Speaker 7: fine with him being frustrated, so we can build him

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Speaker 7: back up.

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Speaker 3: I still believe in.

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Speaker 7: The transcendent talent, and I think Ben Johnson's a sharp coach,

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Speaker 7: so I think it will work. But I just need

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Speaker 7: him to be a little more even keeled.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm gonna bounce around here, and I want

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Speaker 1: to get to this topic. I said that to a

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Speaker 1: basketball topic. I didn't have a problem with Lebron James

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Speaker 1: or Brawny because we all know the deal here. If

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Speaker 1: they're on a yacht in Centralpe with Savannah and they

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Speaker 1: don't make a press conference and they do a video call,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. Lebron is messy. He's Ronald though

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Speaker 1: we're talking different ballgame here. It's Brad Pitt. He can't

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Speaker 1: make every carpet. I get it, But I said Luca

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Speaker 1: being in the kind of shape he's in. It's year

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Speaker 1: two and three Luca, and last year I got lumpy Luca.

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Speaker 1: This year I get lean Luca and I think Lebron

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Speaker 1: and maybe he can handle it, or maybe he can't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want Austin Reeves to have the ball. I

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Speaker 1: don't want I think old KD. You could argue will

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Speaker 1: play better with lean Luca than lumpy Luca. Last year

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Speaker 1: he couldn't beat people off the dribble. He needed Lebron,

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Speaker 1: who still can that. I think the struggle isn't whether

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Speaker 1: he's at a press conference. Is that you're going to

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Speaker 1: get now year two and three Luca, where he not

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Speaker 1: only beat people off the dribble, he finished dunking at

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Speaker 1: the rim. That guy is back, and I in his

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Speaker 1: usage rate in those years was the highest ever. Is

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Speaker 1: that I think Lebron's numbers for the first time in

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Speaker 1: his career. You will watch Luke and Lebron and there

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Speaker 1: will be a noticeable gap in performance, and we've never

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Speaker 1: seen it with Lebron.

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Speaker 7: We've never seen it, but like there's listen, Lebron last

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Speaker 7: year got the sixth most MVP votes and the sixth

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Speaker 7: most all NBA First Team votes. He finished sixth in

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Speaker 7: both of those categories. He was, according to the voters,

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Speaker 7: the sixth best player in basketball last year. Let's assume

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Speaker 7: there's a little atrophy from there, going now into year

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Speaker 7: twenty three of his career and where he's going to

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Speaker 7: be turning forty one, and let's say he goes from

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Speaker 7: that to ninth or tenth best in the league. Luca

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Speaker 7: is one of un equivocally the four best players in

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Speaker 7: the league. I think he's one of the three players

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Speaker 7: in the league. I understand that it's a harder argument

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Speaker 7: to make now because of what Shaye accomplished, but I

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Speaker 7: think Luca is better than Shay. Everyone thought that nine

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Speaker 7: months ago. Now seemingly only I and maybe Zach Low

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Speaker 7: think it. But I think Luca is a top three

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Speaker 7: player in the league. He's supposed to be much better

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Speaker 7: than whomever his next best teammate.

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Speaker 4: Is.

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Speaker 7: Where I disagree with people about how Lebron will take that.

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Speaker 7: I think Lebron, for the better part of the last

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Speaker 7: five years, had been hoping that he would be able

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Speaker 7: to make this transition because of Anthony Davis. I think Lebron,

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Speaker 7: as we saw in the Olympics and once they got

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Speaker 7: Luca last year, relishes the opportunity to be able to

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Speaker 7: give more of his energy on the defensive end because

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Speaker 7: he doesn't have to carry all of the load on

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Speaker 7: the offensive end. Lebron's issue has and I know this

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Speaker 7: has nothing to do with Luca or whether or not

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Speaker 7: Luca has superseded him in the NBA player hierarchy at

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Speaker 7: this point in his career. Lebron's singular issue is, are

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Speaker 7: is my timeline and the lakers timeline now totally misaligned

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Speaker 7: or are they still at least kind of together Where

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Speaker 7: the Lakers, yes, obviously they need to have a long

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Speaker 7: term vision, but do they also think we can win

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Speaker 7: a championship right now and we are going to go

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Speaker 7: for that because this might be my last year. And

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Speaker 7: here is why I would argue for the Lakers they

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Speaker 7: should unless they have a secret handshake agreement that Giannis

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Speaker 7: is signing there in two years.

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Speaker 3: The overwhelming odds.

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Speaker 7: That if we were to in three years when this

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Speaker 7: extension for Luca's over, say, hey, who's the single best

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Speaker 7: player Luca ever played with with the Lakers in his

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Speaker 7: four years with the team. The answer is likely going

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Speaker 7: to be Lebron. When Lebron leaves, the idea that they're

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Speaker 7: going to get one of the six players in the

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Speaker 7: league or seven players in the league better than Lebron

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Speaker 7: as a running mate is unlikely. So if I were

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Speaker 7: the Lakers, I would treat this season.

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Speaker 3: As we have.

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Speaker 7: Lucu can win MVP. Lebron's coming off a great year.

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Speaker 7: We filled out the roster a bit, maybe add one

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Speaker 7: more wing or maybe a backup center, and why can't

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Speaker 7: we go win four rounds? That's what Lebron wants them

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Speaker 7: to do. I don't blame him for that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this may be below your standards of a topic choice,

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Speaker 1: but now I have had kind of a thing and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of truth in it, although sometimes just

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Speaker 1: to be obnoxious, I go a little over the top

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Speaker 1: and a little fiat.

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Speaker 7: So tell me we're doing the visor. Tell me we're

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Speaker 7: doing the visor right? So I'm a houard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Okay, So my thing is there are

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Speaker 1: dress codes in life that there are members clubs, there's

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Speaker 1: all courses, there's events where you have to wear a

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Speaker 1: collared shirt. It's one thing to have a hat on

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Speaker 1: backwards for a wide receiver in an interview on the field,

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Speaker 1: to be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys, a backwards advisor.

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Speaker 1: I had a general manager text me this morning. He goes,

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Speaker 1: you're going to get nothing but crap, and you are

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Speaker 1: on target. A general manager in the league said, don't

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Speaker 1: stop on this. Here's a guy that nobody believes can coach.

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Speaker 1: And he looks like the guy that when you call

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Speaker 1: one eight hundred junk, picks up the boxes and that's

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Speaker 1: stuff from your garage. It's the Cowboys, it's bag of America.

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Speaker 1: It's the biggest brand in the National Football League. That

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Speaker 1: look bothers me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, don't know it does I know it does. So

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Speaker 7: a couple things. Just one clarification for the audience. I

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Speaker 7: don't know who you get on the other end of

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Speaker 7: the line if you call one eight hundred junk, but

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't call it.

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Speaker 3: And that's not the number colin men. But the point

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Speaker 3: is taken. So here's the thing.

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Speaker 7: You have always been right about this, and deep down

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Speaker 7: everyone knows it. But because you are maybe a touch

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Speaker 7: hyperbolic or theatrical people attack you, but we all we

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Speaker 7: like we all agree that every single day we are

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Speaker 7: all making choices with how we present ourselves to the world.

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Speaker 7: We all agree that Bill Belichick was the reason that

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Speaker 7: his gruff, cut up, dirty hoodie was considered cool was

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Speaker 7: purely because A he was an all time winner and

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Speaker 7: b it fit the theme that he.

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Speaker 3: Was trying to present.

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Speaker 7: Everyone knows that now does is a backwards hat across

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Speaker 7: the board necessarily as much of a faux po as

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Speaker 7: you seem to think it is, probably not, But is

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Speaker 7: a backwards visor a good look on anyone.

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Speaker 3: I'm yet to see it.

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Speaker 7: And it does everyone, even the biggest critics of you

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Speaker 7: on this.

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Speaker 3: Does everyone agree?

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Speaker 7: It's a matter of degree that we are arguing about,

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Speaker 7: because everyone agrees that if he came to the press

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Speaker 7: conference with mustard stained all over his face and shirtless

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Speaker 7: but said the exact same stuff, we'd be like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: the presentation's wrong. We all agree that there is a level.

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Speaker 7: Your level just happens to be an orientation of the

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Speaker 7: cap or visor in this case, which again I've never

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Speaker 7: cared about quite as much as you. But I also

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Speaker 7: think if there were a Hall of Fame on twenty

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Speaker 7: year sports topics.

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Speaker 3: This is a first ballot entry.

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Speaker 7: People now see people wearing backwards caps and they're like,

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Speaker 7: oh boy, okay, we're gonna get four minute masterclass from

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Speaker 7: Cowbird today.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's of your legacy. It might be a

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Speaker 3: little sad.

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Speaker 7: Thing, but it's it's in the first page of the obituary.

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Speaker 1: Tell you that much. It probably is. I probably need

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Speaker 1: a second good take after thirty years. Okay. Final final

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Speaker 1: thing on this is that the media does this with

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Speaker 1: politics and they do it with personalities. Is that they

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Speaker 1: pick people they like and they just decide, we like

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Speaker 1: this guy. There was a Stephen Colbert. The media is like,

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Speaker 1: he's a good guy. And my take is the show

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Speaker 1: is losing forty million. It went heavy political. The demographics

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Speaker 1: got sixty nine years old. Is the average age. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: going to do a forty million dollar losing show on

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Speaker 1: network TV in twenty twenty five, maybe thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: They're not. But the media decided they liked him, and

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Speaker 1: that's fine. But the media has decided they like Mike McDaniels.

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Speaker 1: We're three years in Brian Flores, the two years before

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel's got there, that a better winning percentage than

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Speaker 1: the last three years with him. And that's with the

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Speaker 1: Patriots being a disaster and the Jets being a disaster.

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Speaker 1: That the media has decided they didn't like Brian Flores,

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Speaker 1: they didn't like him, they like Mike McDaniel. If I

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Speaker 1: had an opening today, what are the Dolphins? What? I

647
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Speaker 1: knew what Flora's after about eight weeks about week nine

648
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Speaker 1: on those Flores teams were nasty. It took him a

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Speaker 1: while to develop it. I'm three years in with Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 1: Is this a case of the media deciding he's smart,

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Speaker 1: we like him. Where's that they're there with the Dolphins?

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Speaker 7: Okay, so a couple things first, is I think this

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Speaker 7: is a take I agree with you on, unlike the

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Speaker 7: Colbert take, which I vehemently disagree with you on. And

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Speaker 7: we can save that for the next time I'm on

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Speaker 7: the podcast. Probably not the time and place for it

657
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Speaker 7: right now, but let's put a pin in that. We'll

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Speaker 7: talk about it on the volume at some point. On

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Speaker 7: Mike McDaniel, you are correct in that he reminds a

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Speaker 7: lot of sports media of themselves.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like that's just flatly true.

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Speaker 7: Like the smaller Rye humor kind you know it signed

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Speaker 7: kind of very almost dark humor yesterday analytical guy. I

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Speaker 7: think there are a lot of people covering football that

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Speaker 7: see themselves in him, which then makes you want to

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Speaker 7: root for the guy to succeed you. Then also, I

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Speaker 7: do think objectively he is a very smart and inventive

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Speaker 7: offensive play designer, and I also think he got.

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Speaker 3: The absolute most out of Tua.

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Speaker 7: I think there are some things to like, but where

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Speaker 7: I think there is and whether this is not just

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Speaker 7: about Mike McDaniel, This is about how football is covered today,

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Speaker 7: as analytics and as as a smarter people start having

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Speaker 7: larger voices in the cover In covering a football, I

675
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Speaker 7: think there is a experience gap in how physically brutal

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Speaker 7: the game is and the type of people that actually

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Speaker 7: play it at the highest level, and therefore how hard

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Speaker 7: it can be to actually lead that group of men,

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Speaker 7: and the reason.

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Speaker 3: And so it to me this is a cousin of

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I see.

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Speaker 7: Some of the smartest people, supposedly smartest people covering football

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Speaker 7: who I think truly believe the way they present it

684
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Speaker 7: every time you run the ball is stupid because the

685
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Speaker 7: EPA per play on a bad pass is higher than

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Speaker 7: on a good run, and this, that, and all of

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Speaker 7: it makes sense except for the fact that there is

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Speaker 7: when for eighty years, every person that's ever played the

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Speaker 7: game has one of the first things they talked about

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Speaker 7: is the importance of being able to run and like

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Speaker 7: the way it can you can kind of sap the

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Speaker 7: will of your opponent.

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Speaker 3: Yes, in some way, you just got to be like

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Speaker 3: they probably know.

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Speaker 7: What they're talking about, Like I haven't been out there,

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Speaker 7: but like, I don't know. It seems like if like

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Speaker 7: you can make the de tackle frustrated, there might be

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Speaker 7: a value that doesn't show up in the numbers. So

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Speaker 7: that's a long explanation to get to McDaniel, which is

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Speaker 7: I think there is some of the reason that the

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Speaker 7: media loves him might also be related to why his

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Speaker 7: team pretty clearly does not fear him the way they

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Speaker 7: seem to some of the more effective coaches. And I

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Speaker 7: like McDaniel, but it seems like it's gotten away from

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Speaker 7: him a bit with the Dolphins. And I want to

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Speaker 7: make this clear. I'm not an anti analytics guy. I'm

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Speaker 7: not an anti kind of you know, smart learning the

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Speaker 7: game thing, but I think that there is an arrogance

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Speaker 7: to the idea that in some ways that football is

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Speaker 7: talked about when it comes to the actual physicality and

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Speaker 7: toughness of the game.

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Speaker 3: That gets lost in some of the math.

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Speaker 1: No, this is something I had an executive tell me

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Speaker 1: years ago. He said, And this was years and I

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Speaker 1: was at the other place, and he said, the hardest

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Speaker 1: part of about the draft is you just don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: know on tape. Am I drafting somebody who is willing

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Speaker 1: to impose his will and soul on another equally big

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Speaker 1: strong man and ray Lewis could be smaller and slower.

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Speaker 1: You turn the lights off, put ray Lewis in a

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Speaker 1: room with any other player, Ray's coming out of the room.

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Speaker 1: And there is something there is value in the NFL

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Speaker 1: in just toughness.

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Speaker 3: Well, can I add to that real quick?

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Speaker 7: I know we have to go, but I I have said,

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Speaker 7: and again I'm not an anti McDaniel guy, but I

727
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Speaker 7: think people should go back and watch the Chiefs Dolphin's

728
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Speaker 7: playoff game two years ago. When the chief Chiefs were

729
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Speaker 7: came limping into the playoffs, they you know, I think

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Speaker 7: I'm you know, they were it was when they had

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Speaker 7: the first road games. Now, they of course ended up

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Speaker 7: going to and winning the Super Bowl because they're the Chiefs,

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Speaker 7: but they seem to be a vulnerable team.

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Speaker 3: And that was the third coldest game in NFL history.

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Speaker 7: And Andy Reid came out and he looked like Andy Reid.

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Speaker 7: He was dressed like Andy Reid is dressed, even though

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Speaker 7: by halftime.

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Speaker 3: He literally had icicles on his mustache.

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Speaker 7: And Mike McDaniel came out as bundled up as you've

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Speaker 7: ever seen a human being. And I said, I said

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Speaker 7: on the air that week, I was like, cause the

742
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Speaker 7: Dolphins had no interest in being there.

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Speaker 3: They you know, they got annihilated from the very beginning.

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Speaker 7: And I said, I can't prove it, but I feel

745
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Speaker 7: like the Chiefs saw their coach acting like this is

746
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Speaker 7: a normal game, normal business, and they were and they

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Speaker 7: internalized it.

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Speaker 3: And the Dolphins saw their.

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Speaker 7: Coach acting like this is the coldest I've ever been

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Speaker 7: in my entire life, and they internalize that, and I

751
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Speaker 7: just think they're a little I think football is so

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Speaker 7: different because it's so physically painful, it's so dangerous, it's

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Speaker 7: so brutal, that there is just a lot of magic

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Speaker 7: in the indefinable toughness stuff. And I think that's kind

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Speaker 7: of what I'm getting at here.

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Speaker 1: No, I'll close it on this years ago, I was

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Speaker 1: sitting watching It was Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in

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Speaker 1: a playoff game in Foxborough and Jim Nantz is doing

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Speaker 1: it and he's going to a commercial and they show

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Speaker 1: a pre game shot. We're coming back with a kickoff

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Speaker 1: next and they show Peyton Manning and he looks like

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Speaker 1: he is free He's with a I think the cult

763
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Speaker 1: at this point. He looks like he's freezing, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: it's over. Brady's out there high five and Peyton Manning,

765
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Speaker 1: who plays in the dome, and Indy looked and I thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's just terrible body language. And I think we agree

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Speaker 1: on that, all right.

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Speaker 7: Buddy, Absolutely great to see a seacom all right, we'll

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Speaker 7: get to that Stephen Colbert thing on a podcast near you.

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Speaker 3: I swear we would.

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Speaker 1: No. I think there is something to be said is

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Speaker 1: that I'm not anti analytics ever, but I've said this

773
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Speaker 1: before about the NBA. Those analytics go out the window

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs because you just coach differently, and the

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Speaker 1: NBA efficiens officiates differently. Analytics in baseball, it's built for

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Speaker 1: the volume of one hundred and sixty two games, you

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Speaker 1: go into the playoffs, Dave Roberts is going to use

778
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Speaker 1: his bullpen differently in the playoffs than he does any

779
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Speaker 1: other time of the year. So all the analytics are

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Speaker 1: built for volume of games. But what happens when you

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Speaker 1: get down to a five game, seven game series. Well,

782
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Speaker 1: in the NBA, the games are officiated differently. You don't

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Speaker 1: get the whistle, you don't get the regular season whistle.

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Speaker 1: So I like analytics in football, but a lot of

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Speaker 1: it comes down to mental and physical toughness. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia's best play is gaining half a yard. All the

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Speaker 1: analytics of football, Tom Brady was unstoppable on quarterback sneaks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it was fourth and one, Brady got

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Speaker 1: the first down, he mastered it. So with all the

790
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Speaker 1: analytics with football, sometimes it's like Philly and Tom Brady

791
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Speaker 1: have mastered getting a yard in January and Buffalo, by

792
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: the way, with Josh Allen, was a circus trying to

793
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Speaker 1: get a yard. Sometimes the game is just that the

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Speaker 1: will and the toughness to get a yard in lousy weather,