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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. We have a

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Speaker 2: lot to go over this week. Of course, everything we

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Speaker 2: can't bring you on the Mother Knows Death Podcast we

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Speaker 2: cover in the gross rooms. To make sure you check

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Speaker 2: out the latest post articles and YouTube live episodes that

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Speaker 2: we have in there. On today's episode, we're going to

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Speaker 2: get into Kim Kardashian's low brain activity and the dangers

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Speaker 2: of competitive eating. Then we're going to get into a

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Speaker 2: lighter topic like necrophilia. We'll finish off the episode talking

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Speaker 2: about dancing in poop and who you should call or

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Speaker 2: who you should not call when you find a dead body.

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Speaker 2: All that and more, plus your questions comments emails. Let's

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Speaker 2: get arted with Kim Kardashian.

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Speaker 1: All right, So on the show, On the episode they

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Speaker 1: came out last week, Kim and Scott distick. Which is

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Speaker 1: it not weird that she still hangs out with her

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Speaker 1: sister's ex like that that they're going and doing these

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Speaker 1: scans together anyway they go together.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's like, I mean, listen, like these

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Speaker 2: people don't do anything that normal people would do, but

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Speaker 2: it is you know, their kids seem to be all

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Speaker 2: close and hang out, and it's the kid's dad, so

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Speaker 2: I mean they see him all the time. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: if remembering correctly, though, I feel like Courtney expressed that

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Speaker 2: because she's married to Travis Barker now they have a kid,

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Speaker 2: and her and Scott haven't been together for a long

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Speaker 2: time and they had issues for a long time. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I haven't watched the show in a really long time,

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Speaker 1: so I only turned the episode on to watch this

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Speaker 1: part because I don't feel like the articles always accurately

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Speaker 1: translate the scene, and I wanted to see it for myself.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Kim, It'scott going this doctor, which I assume

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Speaker 1: they were going to a neurologist. I was surprised it

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Speaker 1: was the psychiatrist performing this test. But they get these

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Speaker 1: scans done on their brain, and as they're reviewing them,

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Speaker 1: the doctor tells her she is a beautiful brain, not

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Speaker 1: the type to get Alzheimer's or anything, which I just

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Speaker 1: think that's kind of ridiculous to say, because how would

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Speaker 1: you know. This article said she had a low risk

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Speaker 1: of Alzheimer's, But that's not what was said in the episode.

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Speaker 1: He said she didn't have the type of brain to

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Speaker 1: develop Alzheimer's, And then he said, oh wait, though, you

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Speaker 1: have some holes, which indicates you have low brain activity

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Speaker 1: and we need.

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Speaker 2: To fix this. This actually makes perfect sense because the

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Speaker 2: frontal lobe of your brain is what controls your emotions

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Speaker 2: and your impulsivity and your decision making, right, Like, that's

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Speaker 2: the part of your brain that could get really affected

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Speaker 2: if you're a chronic alcoholic and you just start making

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Speaker 2: terrible decisions. So that's the only explanation for all of

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Speaker 2: this is that Because when you read the article or

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Speaker 2: the last one or anything that she's been doing for years,

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Speaker 2: you're just like, why on earth would a person go

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Speaker 2: that that's that's probably a negative. There's a reason for it,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, because everything they do is calculated, and maybe

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Speaker 2: she's just doing that. So if she never passes this

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Speaker 2: think that that she's just dumb because she's she has

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Speaker 2: like scans to prove that she has a pathology going

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean he told her it was most likely

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Speaker 1: caused by her chronic stress levels because of studying for

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Speaker 1: people on the planet. I'm sure your life is not

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Speaker 1: that peaceful when you're monitored every single moment of your life.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I I don't want to ever say that she

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Speaker 2: guess what, I'm listen, Like a lot of people, obviously,

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, she doesn't deal with what

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Speaker 2: Like that stuff puts a lot of stress on regular

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I did this think it was interesting because I mean,

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Speaker 1: which I just thought was interesting That ended up coming up.

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Speaker 2: All that is all it is. That entire scene was

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Speaker 2: just a complete advertisement for that thing, and it if

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Speaker 2: if you looked at anything and this is the thing.

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Speaker 2: Like you know how many autopsies I've done that you

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Speaker 2: One time, I did an autopsy on a woman that

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Speaker 2: She didn't even know she had one kidney her whole life,

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Speaker 2: You find stuff all the time, so if you do

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Speaker 1: I just was looking at the whole thing. Is this

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Speaker 2: I just like I just can't getting this scan, I understand,

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, there's only so many scenes they could

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that person that was going viral a

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Speaker 2: A fitness instructor was trying to promote his weight loss

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, how annoying is that. Oh he died

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Speaker 2: because his heart stopped. So does everybody else's when they die. Okay,

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Speaker 2: But just think. Let's think about what happens if you

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Speaker 2: when people gain weight for roles for movies. Right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So there's just lots of different things that could happen, Like,

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Speaker 2: it causes the problem on your organs. It causes visceral fat.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, this is the light topic of the day. Necrophilia.

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Speaker 2: but like eventually he would have got caught with it anyway.

434
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: I just thought this was weird and maybe I'm misunderstanding it,

435
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: but it seems like he was pretty open about what happened,

436
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 1: and they even had this quote from him saying if

437
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: I didn't commit to being a monster, then she would

438
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: have died for no reason. But then he ended up

439
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: being on trial and was just found guilty in his

440
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: facing sentencing next month. So I'm confused why it went

441
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: to trial if he even if he was open about it.

442
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: But maybe he told them and then decided plead not guilty.

443
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: I don't really know. So one of the most interesting

444
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: things I learned about necrophilia a couple years was it

445
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: last year or a couple of years ago in the

446
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: grocer room redid a high profile that the section on necrophilia,

447
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: and it's it's it's an interesting subject. I like to

448
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: I like to discuss things that are that are just

449
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: interesting to me. And one of the things that I

450
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: learned about it because when anybody reads this article, they're

451
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: just like, oh God, this guy's like some sick, weird,

452
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: pervert guy. And there's all different forms of necrophilia, some

453
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: of which is just I mean not just but people

454
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 2: having it usually happens with men, but it kind of

455
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: there's cases of it happening with women homosexual men as well,

456
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: So it usually happens with with heterosexual males, but I

457
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: mean Jeffrey Dahmer is a good example, you know, did

458
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: something like that too, So it's doesn't always fall into

459
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: this one category. But sometimes there's cases of it happening

460
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 2: with people who were seemingly happily married and the wife

461
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 2: dies and it's just because of extreme grief that the

462
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: husband will have sex with her. So that could even

463
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: be the case here if he killed her and then

464
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: went back because he felt some kind of extreme grief

465
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: from it. But then there's a sliding scale of just

466
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: how disturbing and weird it gets. And I'll never forget that.

467
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: I'm speaking of Brian Coberger. I was listening to some

468
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: a psychologist or psychiatrist on Nancy Grace's show was talking

469
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: about that crime and said that she wouldn't be surprised

470
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: if after he mutilated their bodies that he masturbated right afterwards,

471
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: because that's like one of the classes of necrophilia of

472
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: just the only way that you could get sexual satisfaction

473
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: and climaxes from doing something like that.

474
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we had been critical of the prosecutor who

475
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: said there was no sexual nature to this crime, because

476
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, just because he maybe didn't sectually assault them

477
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he didn't go home and.

478
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: Get ex to it later. Yeah. So there's just like

479
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: all different situations. So yeah, check. You could just search

480
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: in the gross room for necrophilia and read all about that,

481
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: and then I have some actual cases of autopsies where

482
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: that happened, so and there you'll see pictures of how

483
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: they could tell dead verses alive and things like that.

484
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: All Right, So the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade was last

485
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: week and as some of the performers were coming up

486
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: in front of the store, I guess a police horse

487
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: had pooped in the middle of the street and there

488
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 1: were forced to dance in the poop. This is like

489
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: little girls, like pre teenage girls dancing in this horse poop.

490
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 2: I just I think it's so wrong. It's really it's

491
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: it's just like a really weird situation. Because think about this.

492
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: If you are a dancer and you're in a dance

493
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: school and you get asked to dance into Macy's Day

494
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving parade, that's like a huge, huge, it's huge for

495
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: especially a little kid to have that honor kind of

496
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: and you're in a group of kids and you're all

497
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: just like, there's no one stopping you, and you're I

498
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: guess they just thought, like like someone wrote that in

499
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: one of the comments, like the show must go on right, Yeah,

500
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: like they just didn't they they didn't know not to

501
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: do it right. And I would think like if I

502
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: was twelve years old doing that and I shouldn't have

503
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: been doing it, that my mom or my dance teacher

504
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: would have ran in and grabbed me or something like

505
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: nobody stopped it, and it would have been kind of

506
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: weird to just stop in the middle of the parade.

507
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: And you know, like we lived when I went to

508
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: Jefferson for setology, Maria and I lived in a society

509
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: hill in in Philly for that year while I went

510
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: to school. And we had the horse and carriage go

511
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: by our apartment every single day, multiple times a day

512
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: and shit on the street, and it just meld like

513
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: horse poop in the air all the time. Some like

514
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: some of those carriages now have these like bags that

515
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: hang under their butt that catches the poop. But I

516
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: mean back in early two thousands when we were there,

517
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: they were just pooping on the street. It was like

518
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: we stepped in it all the time, just crossing the

519
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: street and stuff. It just it was there all the time.

520
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: This is my grape with it though, Like they're not

521
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: performing the entire length of the parade. There's like checkpoints

522
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: right that they stop at, So why can't they devote

523
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: They said they work with a sanitation crew and they

524
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: don't know what happened basically that allowed it to happen.

525
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: But like, wouldn't you think that they could take one

526
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: to two minutes to like at least push it to

527
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: the side so they don't have to dance in the

528
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: turds itself. And I thought they were barefoot at first,

529
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: but they had those like skin colored tights with the

530
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: nude shoes on too, you know, So at first I

531
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, these poor little girls are

532
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: barefoot in this horsepoop. They did have shoes on, but

533
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: then people were also pointing out dance shoes are incredibly expensive.

534
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, because Lubret dances.

535
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they are, they are, and it's I mean,

536
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: that's listen. It's gross. And but also there is a

537
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: risk with it as well, because I mean, at least

538
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: they're not barefoot, so if they did have obviously, if

539
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: they had any open cuts on their feet or something,

540
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: you're putting fecal matter into a cut, so you could

541
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: get a serious infection. And I mean it still could

542
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: kind of get in because if it's getting through those

543
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: shoes and those little stockings, like, it could still get

544
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: into their like I'm sure when they took their little

545
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: stockings off, their feet had shit on them still, right,

546
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: So and then another factor that you have to take

547
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: into consideration is when the kid because now you're you're

548
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: not going into a house like somebody has to. The

549
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: kid has to get somewhere to get into a shower

550
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: and everything. So now you have people and maybe the

551
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: child or a person helping that's now touching fecal matter.

552
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what it's poop, Right, it's not as

553
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: high as a risk as you would say, like pig

554
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: poop or something, just because they eat like or any

555
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: animal that's not an herbivore, you know what I mean,

556
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: like you would get you have like less of a risk,

557
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: but they still carry certain parasites, they still carry certain bacterias. Actually,

558
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: horseman or is considered one of the risk factors for

559
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: tetanus because of the even though it's not in the poop,

560
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: it's could be in the spores near the stables where

561
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: they're at. So I don't know if they considered this

562
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: to be an exposure. I mean, the good thing is

563
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: is that they're all young and it would probably only

564
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: cause a problem in someone that was immunocompromise, like an

565
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: older person. But certainly children can have autoimmune conditions and

566
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: be on certain medications as well that they're immuno compromise.

567
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 2: But it's it's not like you never really want your

568
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 2: child to touch an animal poop. I mean, it's just

569
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you're just like risking it.

570
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: It's just gross and it seems unnecessary that they couldn't

571
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: have cleaned it up quickly before they showed up, because

572
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: I just think it was like.

573
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: One kid did it, and they all looked at each

574
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: other and we're like, I guess we're doing this. And

575
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: then you have thirty kids stomping and shit, and they're like, okay,

576
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: like let's not make a big scene of this. But

577
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: I love that for their professionalists. I know, right, they're

578
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: like they're gonna. I just I love when shit like

579
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 2: this happens, and like someone just so happens to be

580
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: recording it, and you're that person was probably like, am

581
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: I watching this right now? It looks so funny?

582
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: All right? So a couple weeks ago, Elliott Siegel, who

583
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: hosts the DC radio show Elliot in the Morning's doing

584
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: his show. Everything seemed to be normal until they got

585
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: a call from a listener saying that he found a

586
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: dead body in the woods and didn't bother to call

587
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: the police.

588
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: Did you listen to the audio from this? Yes? It

589
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: was so disturbing. It is disturbing, and I'm still I

590
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: don't know that we've heard the end of this yet

591
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: because it's very, very weird. And of course, the first

592
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: person that we thought of was Elvis Duran and his

593
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: amazing show and everyone on the show. We were thinking,

594
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this could totally happen to them too,

595
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: and how would they handle this. I would just really,

596
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: I really want to talk to him about this, because

597
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: obviously millions of people are listening to your show, so

598
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: you just have that out there. But and Elvis has

599
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: been on for so long, so I'm just wondering if

600
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: he's ever had another situation where he was like, I

601
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: better call the police because I'm not just the dead

602
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: body thing, but like anything that anybody could have said,

603
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: because people do want to get attention from doing things

604
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: like that sometimes.

605
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: Well, we did text this to Andrew and Celia to

606
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: see if they saw it. And Andrew told us the

607
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: fun fact that Elliott used to be Elvis's co host.

608
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: Oh really, go So that is such a random part

609
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: of the story, but this is basically what happened. They

610
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: got a call from this guy who said his name

611
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: was Joseph and didn't want to reveal his real name,

612
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: and his voice was just very creepy, and he was

613
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: very calm the entire time, which is added to the

614
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: eeriness of it. So I guess, you know, he calls

615
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: in and they he says he sends the other radio

616
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: host pictures of something he found, and he's reminding them

617
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: that a couple weeks before that, they had been talking

618
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: about a story where a professional athlete saw a dead

619
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: body floating in the water, and they were wondering how

620
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: that a was able to go play his game day.

621
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: Didn't we talk? We talked about that somewhere. Was it?

622
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: Was it on our show or in the grocery? I

623
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: feel like we talked about it. I feel like that

624
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: was a cut story. I don't really know. Yeah, I don't.

625
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: I don't really remember, but I definitely remember seeing that

626
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: and thinking like, okay, what's whatever he saw the profect?

627
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: Wasn't it a football player? I don't I thought it was.

628
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: You know, my memory is trash. I don't. I feel

629
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: like it was a football player. And he like looked

630
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: out the window of his hotel room or condo or

631
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: something and saw a dead body floating in the water,

632
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: and a lot of people thought that that would have

633
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: been so disturbing that he wouldn't have been able to

634
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 2: play the next day. And I just was like, Okay,

635
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: big deal, this is Thursday to me, Like whatever, I

636
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: don't think we covered this really, okay? A Yeah, So

637
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: he reminds them they had been talking about that story

638
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: and goes, well, I emailed your co host some pictures

639
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 2: of something I found in the woods, and then all

640
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Elliott goes, you found a dead body.

641
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: So this guy emailed them pictures of this body he

642
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: came across.

643
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: In the woods, and he's just so nonchalantly like, yeah,

644
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: you know, I always kind of hoped i'd stumble upon

645
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: something like this, and I was a little relieved that

646
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: it seemed like the person had been there for a

647
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: couple months, and I think they just died of an

648
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: ode or freezing to death.

649
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and listen, I wouldn't even have a

650
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: problem with this if he called them and just said

651
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 2: that and even said I even took a picture because

652
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: I was so shocked. But the very next thing the

653
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: guy should have done was called the police and been like,

654
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: I just stumbled across a dead body, and instead, no,

655
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: he found it, what was it eighteen days prior? Yes,

656
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: And he never called the police. And the first time

657
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: he's saying it out loud is to a radio show,

658
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: live on the air, just like what So He.

659
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: Called on November twenty first, to the radio show So,

660
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: which means he found the body at the beginning of November.

661
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: He I don't know if you picked this up too,

662
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: but I think he was referring to the body as Teddy.

663
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be bumming me out even more so.

664
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: They ask him, I feel like Kevin Spacey in Seven Vibes, like, yes,

665
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: there's just something like that's I don't know why. It

666
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: just made me think about that because remember he would

667
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: be like talking really calm on a on phone calls

668
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: or even when he was talking to Brad Pitt, like

669
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: it just like it's it's like this very like not bothered.

670
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: A normal person that just stumbles across a dead body

671
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: is a little jarred, regardless if you thought they oweded

672
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: or whatever. Like it's it's bizarre that his first instinct

673
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: wasn't like, let me report this to the police right now.

674
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: And this is what makes me think that there's something

675
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: much creepier going on here with this dude, Like was

676
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: he visiting it, Like what's happening? Well, yeah, so they

677
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: ask if he calls the police, and he said he hadn't,

678
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: but he had a dream the night before that he did,

679
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 2: so he thought he was gonna go forward and call them.

680
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: That day and they were like, don't call them later today,

681
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: like hang up with us and call them immediately. So

682
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: then they start talking amongst each other, like asking the

683
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: co host you still have that email, and she's like, no,

684
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: I deleted it, and they're like, get it back and

685
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: send it to the police. So like they're like, we

686
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: need to now take care of this too.

687
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: I feel like this is like a moment in The

688
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: Fugitive when Tommy what's what's his name? I don't remember.

689
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: You know who I'm talking about.

690
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: Oh, Tommy Lee Jones.

691
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's like sitting there when someone's on

692
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: the phone with him, going like this, like rolling his finger,

693
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: like keep them on the phone so we could get

694
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: his phone number. Yeah, that's you know what I mean. Like,

695
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: let's see if we could call the cops and be

696
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: like we're actively he's on our phone line right now.

697
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: Like they literally paused him. They were like hold on,

698
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna put you. And then they're like asking about

699
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: the email. She's like, I don't have it, and they're like,

700
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: all right, we'll ask him to send it again.

701
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: So they unfosse them.

702
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: They're like, can you send the email again? And he's like, oh, yeah,

703
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: it was so weird. They seem so freaked out, which

704
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: I totally understand, even if somebody's fucking with you, Like

705
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: this is scary because there are real people that do stuff,

706
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: and that was that was.

707
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: My first thought when I was reading it. I was

708
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: just like, this can't be real. And then sure enough

709
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 2: that police department was like, yes, we found a dead

710
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: body there. Then that same day when they when they

711
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: heard of the story.

712
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: So they did end up finding the body there, and

713
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: then the guy called back instead that the police interviewed

714
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: him for several several minutes meaning hours, and they confiscated

715
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 1: his devices for several dates. Yes, so this is really

716
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: interesting to me because I wonder what that like, that

717
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: radio show had to be involved at some point because

718
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: how else would they figure out who it was?

719
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: I guess.

720
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: I mean, now that we're recording it, I'm not gonna wait.

721
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: And I should have asked Andrew this yesterday, but I

722
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: wanted to be like, what what do you do?

723
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: Do you call the police? Like what is your level

724
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: of involvement? After? I do wonder if they have a

725
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: manual hand to handle these things, what's the procedure? Dude?

726
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 2: Elvis has been on.

727
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: The radio for like over thirty years. Yeah, I'm sure

728
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: they've gotten weird calls before. I am too, and I

729
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: am too, I'm sure of it, and it might not.

730
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: Obviously this is this is kind of like a trophy

731
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,479
Speaker 1: call for this guy. Like if this guy ever writes

732
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: a book, this is definitely going to be in one

733
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: of the top callers. But I mean, I'm sure Elvis

734
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: has had situations where he's just like, like, what is

735
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: happening right now? And is this okay that this person's

736
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: saying this? So I'm assuming that. So they didn't.

737
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: Say what happened, how the police heard it. I mean,

738
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: if this guy is syndicated and someone in the town

739
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: heard it, they could have just called someone in the

740
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: police station might have just been listening and they could

741
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: have just went. But also I guess the radio show

742
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: could have called the police as well and reported it.

743
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: And they also didn't say the connection to how they

744
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: found the guy. But they questioned the guy. They said

745
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: that he there doesn't seem to be a threat to

746
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: the public, which is possible. Maybe it's just a threat

747
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: to himself because he's a crazy, creepy weirdo. I don't know,

748
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: like he just a freak. But they took they took

749
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: his devices and checked his devices and then he said

750
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: they must not be very good at tech because they

751
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: had his devices for like four days. And I'm like, yeah,

752
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: they want to see every single thing that you've texted

753
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: and googled in the past four days to make sure

754
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 2: that you weren't like, weren't we just talking about necrophilia

755
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: and stuff like you know what I mean, Like people

756
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: do weird shit with dead bodies, and it's it's just

757
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: and and then aside from all this, we have to

758
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 2: think about whoever that was that's dead, is a human

759
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: being that had a life. And just to think that

760
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: someone would find your dead body there and just not

761
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: even care enough, just on a human perspective to report

762
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: it so you can, you know, maybe your family that's missing,

763
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: you could know that you're dead, or you could just

764
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: get a proper burial. It's just it's just completely like

765
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 2: a there's some kind of line that was crossed there

766
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 2: that that really is upsetting.

767
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because I'm like, even if this person didn't

768
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: murder him, you still just saw a dead person and

769
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: just like let it be like you just saw a

770
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: rock on the ground or something, and then you called

771
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: in and admitted it on a public radio show, like.

772
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: This isn't a deer that got hit by a car,

773
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: this is a human being, Like what are you? It's

774
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: just so weird.

775
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: That's dead in the woods, Like I just don't understand

776
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: what the guy was thinking. And then you're gonna call

777
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: the radio and then it seems like he was annoyed

778
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: he was interviewed by the police, when it's like, of

779
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: course you were. All of your actions were so unusual.

780
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: And like, I just want to know who this guy is.

781
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: I want to get him on our show and just

782
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: talk to him, and just I just want to know

783
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: what he was thinking. I just I'm very interested.

784
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: Personally, I don't want to talk to him because he

785
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: sounded creepy as fuck. I don't want any interaction with that.

786
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: And I'm all like, now there's an open investigation into

787
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: this guy's that was found unto the death Right, So

788
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I won't be surprised if we learned

789
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: that he ended up being arrested, and this is gonna

790
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: end up being one of those weird Netflix things.

791
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: Like you don't know show, I don't think that he

792
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I don't know the guy.

793
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: I just I think that he's I don't get the

794
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: impression that he killed the person. But listen, it's possible

795
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: because he said, oh, they probably overdosed or froze to death,

796
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: and it's just like, okay, well listen, when we do

797
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: the autopsy, we can find out exactly what happened. So

798
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: you could say whatever you think happened. But I mean, listen,

799
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: there's a straight up possibility that they do the autopsy

800
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: and they're like, this person was beat to death, this

801
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: person was strangled, and and then you know, I'm sure

802
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: there's some footage somewhere of the guy. I mean, like

803
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: there's cameras everywhere. That wasn't it near like a tent

804
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: like a tent city kind of thing where there's a

805
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: lot of homeless people.

806
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that the froze to death thing was the

807
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: weirdest part to me because he's saying, oh, it only

808
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: looked like that guy was there a couple of months. Well,

809
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: it just started getting cold. This was in Frederick, Maryland,

810
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: so it's I've been cold for like three weeks in

811
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: this area. It's not very far from us.

812
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's been froze to death cold.

813
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 2: No is it? I feel like tonight it's actually yeah,

814
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: like tonight they said, oh, you know, you have to

815
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: watch out because it's it's raining slash snowing around here,

816
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: and like watch out in the morning because it's going

817
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: to freeze overnight. But like, I don't even know that

818
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: that that that might have happened once.

819
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: I think it was a slip. He killed this person

820
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: and froze their body and then that dumped them in

821
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: the woods.

822
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: That's kind of a stretch, but you never know. There's

823
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: something up with this dude. All right, let's move on

824
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: to your questions and emails. This first one's from Jenna.

825
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm an O R nurse and in our small hospital,

826
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: we recently had a case of fetal demise at thirty

827
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: nine weeks gestation. I just had a question about your

828
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: thoughts on having a c section and whether this baby

829
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: would have survived or was likely not to survive anyway.

830
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: Mom was thirty nine weeks pregnant with a normal pregnancy,

831
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: presented to OBI clinic three times in one week with

832
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 2: a fever and a quote feeling that something is wrong.

833
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: The nurses and Obi Juan assessed said baby was okay

834
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: and sent mom home twice. On the third time she

835
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: presented to the hospital, the baby had no heartbeat. On

836
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: the second presentation, the OBIE nurses communicated to the our

837
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: staff of a possible sea section for a patient with

838
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: choreo does that Yeah? Okay?

839
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: Mom had to deliver the stillborn and ended up in

840
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: ICU with s The doctor who had sent her home

841
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: as deflecting any responsibility, and the nurse in me is

842
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: wondering if she had made the call to do the section,

843
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: would baby be okay or was this infection going.

844
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: To be an issue? Well, first, let's start from the beginning.

845
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: Whenever end, listen like, I don't take I've never taken

846
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: care of a live person before. So this is just

847
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: what I know from working in this field from the

848
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: back end of when this happens. Whenever a full term,

849
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 2: especially full term pregnant person presents with a fever that

850
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: should be considered it's considered usually an obstetric emergency, like

851
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: because of there's a high probability that it could be

852
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 2: coreo amnitis, which is when there is a bacterial infection

853
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: inside of the placenta and it's really, really dangerous for

854
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 2: both the baby and the mom. So if there's documentation

855
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 2: that she had a fever and went back two different times,

856
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: and on that second time, the nurse actually called and

857
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: said we might be sending someone over for an emergency

858
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: c section, and then let her go home, and then

859
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: when she came back the third time, the baby was dead.

860
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: I personally think that that is lawsuit worthy. I don't

861
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: know what the outcome would have been, because there are

862
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: cases where that happens where it doesn't really matter what

863
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: happened that. I mean, the fetus or the baby when

864
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: it's born can have a severe infection, and so could

865
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: the mom. And in this case, the mom it did

866
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: go into the ICU with I mean, you don't go

867
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: into the ICU just for them to watch you. You

868
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 2: have a serious issue. And she had to deliver a stillborn,

869
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 2: which is emotional trauma that you can't ever get back right.

870
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: So I think that I think that they were wrong personally, well,

871
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what made them say you're fine and

872
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: leave if she had a fever, especially two different times.

873
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 2: What happens is that you can get an infection in

874
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: the placenta. You can get it two different ways. You

875
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: can get it from inside, like if you have an

876
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: infection in your body and it goes through your blood.

877
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: But the most common way to get it is called

878
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: an ace ending infection, which is when you get it

879
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: from bacteria that's in the vagina. So the baby is

880
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: in the placenta, is in this sack that keeps it,

881
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: the amniotic sack that keeps it protected, but especially during

882
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: the end of pregnancy. Well, it could happen at any

883
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: time in pregnancy, but that sack could rupture and cause

884
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: a like you know, it eventually ruptures for everyone, right,

885
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: because that's how your water breaks. You can get a

886
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: really small hole in it, which then exposes the baby

887
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: to the outside world in a little bit like and

888
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: the the mom might not have realized that there that

889
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: the that the membranes have ruptured, because sometimes the hole

890
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: is so small that it come it trickles out. It

891
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 2: could almost be like urine, like you might not even

892
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: notice it. And when there's that hole, then the baby

893
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: could then get bacteria from the vagina up inside of

894
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: the placenta, which can then get the baby sick, and

895
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: it could also get the mom sick as well. It

896
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: actually happened with Lillian when I had her, she had

897
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: coreo amniitis when she was born, or my placenta did so.

898
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: But like it happens, and you see it in the

899
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 2: pathology lab. It happens. I mean, it's natural and that's

900
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: no one's fault. But when the mom is going and saying,

901
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: I have a favor, and I know she said she

902
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: felt like something was wrong, Like that's not really going

903
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: to haul up in a court of all, but like

904
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: documentation of a fever, and I see, I don't know

905
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: this is because I don't treat these patients. I don't

906
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: know if they just say, oh, it's a cold, and

907
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: like if they did other tests too, did they do

908
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: ultrasound to see if her fluid was coming out or

909
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: her oever? Else? I feel like there's another test they

910
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: could do too, to see if your membranes have ruptured.

911
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: So if they did the proper procedure, then I guess

912
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 2: there's nothing that could have been done. But I feel

913
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: like that I hate I've seen it before and I

914
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 2: just hate seeing that because it just didn't need to happen,

915
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: and it's it's such a bummer. So I don't know

916
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: what to tell you. I mean, I know you're a

917
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: no arner, so that didn't even have anything to do

918
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: with you. But it's like that, it's the same thing

919
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: working in pathology. When you hear these cases, it's like

920
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: you have no control over it. But I guess I

921
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: would say for advice, just to be for I don't

922
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 2: really know. If you're pregnant, I guess, and you really

923
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: feel like something's wrong, like maybe just go to a

924
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: completely different hospital and just screw your doctors and get

925
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: another opinions. That's all I could say.

926
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: All right, This next one's from Aarin. I know him

927
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: a few episodes behind and responding to the story. But

928
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: the story of the lady biting into her ham sandwich

929
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: and seeing maggots reminded me of this nastiness that I

930
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: saw over the summer. We were in Barcelona on our

931
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: honeymoon at a five star hotel. We went down for

932
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: breakfast and the lunch meat, which was ham and turkey,

933
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: was covered in fruitflies. They had this net thing over it,

934
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: and the only fruitfly control was just a waving hand

935
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: around to show them away. Now, my husband and I

936
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: were appalled, but other people at breakfast were eating it

937
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: without a care, perhaps avoiding fruitfly covered meat is a

938
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: cultural difference between Americans and Europeans, but here it actually

939
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: gets so much worse. We arrived at the hotel late

940
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: the night before, so we ordered room service, and yes,

941
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: the room service was turkey Panini's with a puking emotion.

942
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: I have no doubt that we unknowingly ate fruitfly turkey

943
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: and whatever. These flies were seasoning the turkey with love

944
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: your show. Congrats on the pregnancy, Maria, Oh my god,

945
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: thanks for that.

946
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: Fruit flies are the worst.

947
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: They're really gross.

948
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: This we memory have a funny fruits fly. I's just

949
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: gonna say, so this was. This was before. This is

950
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: like when I got pregnant with Lilian and me and

951
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: Maria were living at Gabes like Gabe's house, So Gabe

952
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: had his own house before we moved in with them,

953
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: before we moved in with them. So we moved into

954
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: his house and we were I wasn't Thanksgiving. I feel

955
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: like we were like in the kitchen cooking Thanksgiving dinner

956
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: and there were like thousands of fruit flies around, and

957
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 2: I was just like, I don't this was. It was

958
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: a couple of days after Thanksgiving, Okay, so I I

959
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: knew it was around this time of year. So I

960
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: was just like, why are there so many fruit flies around?

961
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: Like where are they coming from? This isn't even because

962
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like flies are like at

963
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: least around here. Anyway, they seem to be worse in

964
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: the summer because you have like food on the counter

965
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: and stuff, and I'm like, I don't even understand what's happening.

966
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: Then I finally realized that they were like around the microwave,

967
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: like the whole kitchen was clean. Like I just didn't understand.

968
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: So I moved the I moved the microwave back and

969
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: there's like a full bunch of bananas back there that

970
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: are pitch black, and my first instinct they were mummified,

971
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: and my first instinct was to pick them up. So

972
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 2: I pick them up and like you know, by where

973
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: they're all attached, and they all just fell right off

974
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: of it because they were so rotten and and like

975
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: all of these flies were like coming out of the pile.

976
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, well that makes sense.

977
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: Well can I just speak to like typical man house

978
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: not making sense? Like he had all this counter space

979
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: and the microwave like angled in the corner, so there

980
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: was that big space behind the microwave and they fell back.

981
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Well, whatever, his house was

982
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: pretty nice for a manhouse. It was.

983
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: I just say there was like it wasn't decorated.

984
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: Yes, there was a lot of questionable choices, but it

985
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 2: wasn't the worst. It was like a semi bachelor pad,

986
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent. It could have been made more homey,

987
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 2: but all right, I just decided to get her for now.

988
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: The last question is do people point out your Philly accents? Yes,

989
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: white hoofed.

990
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 2: All the time, so mine next door neighbor and Nicoles.

991
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: She sent me a video. I forgot to send it

992
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: to you. You know how, there's like these people that

993
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: do like their aunts and uncles and stuff. Yeah, like talking.

994
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 2: I don't know what this particular person was called. I

995
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 2: was just cracking up because I was like, this sounds

996
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 2: like like one of my family members talking. It's so good.

997
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: I would say, your accent's pretty strong South Jersey accent.

998
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: There is like differences between like the area we live

999
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: Philly proper and then Delco has the worst accent, which

1000
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: if anas Northeast Philly is worst, and don't Northeast Philly

1001
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: does have a bad accent too, if you got if

1002
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: anybody watched that show Task on HBO, it's the Delco

1003
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: accent times a thousand. Like everybody doesn't sound that thick,

1004
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: but it's it's influenced by it certainly. And we Ricky,

1005
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: We're just talking about this the other day because Louis

1006
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: actually has the worst.

1007
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: Accent out of all of us.

1008
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 1: And I think because he doesn't talk that you don't

1009
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: pick it up. But when he does talk, I'm like,

1010
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 1: holy shit, he has a super thick South Jersey accent.

1011
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: See, I don't even notice because because we all have it. No,

1012
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: I do know. I noticed it. Yeah, but Ricky has

1013
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: Delco like the Northeast Philly one. It's because some of

1014
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 2: my older cousins like have it. It's just like whenever

1015
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: I hear someone talking, but I think about, like, are

1016
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: like my dad's side of the family Christmas, Like, even

1017
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: if it's not them talking, I'm like, this is what

1018
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: it sounds like because a lot of them live in

1019
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: the Northeast.

1020
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: Yes, And something they say in particular up there is

1021
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: instead of saying almond and salmon, they say almond and salmon.

1022
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: I know, And I have a lot like eagles. Yeah,

1023
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: pop Up says eggs. When he says eggs.

1024
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't say anything right. He say anything right.

1025
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: Some people say wash instead of wash. I feel like

1026
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: something I have that's a problem, as I say milk,

1027
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: like milk.

1028
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: No, you know what? You know what. Andrea's favorite one was,

1029
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: she said, my friend Andrea is a PA two. We

1030
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: used to work together for a couple of years and

1031
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 2: she was from Upstate, New York and when she came

1032
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: here she would make fun of some of the stuff

1033
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: I said. And one of them, I was like, oh,

1034
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 2: we gotta We were doing some project in the lab

1035
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, we gotta go to the

1036
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: store and get crowns. And she's like yeah, She's like

1037
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: what and I was like crowns And then she's like

1038
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: what are you saying? And I was like, crowns the

1039
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: things you color with. And then she's like, well, what

1040
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: do you call the thing a king wears on his head?

1041
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: And I said a crown And then she said say

1042
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 2: them both. I said, crown crowned. I feel I feel

1043
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 2: like ye. One of my students she was from China

1044
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: and she, oh, my god, this is the best story ever.

1045
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: She she says to us, like, so her name, her

1046
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: last name was uh, I don't want to say her

1047
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: last name, but it was pronounced jiang right, and then

1048
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: Jung like that that's how she said it. So then

1049
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: she said she's getting married. And then I said, what's

1050
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: your new last name? And it was spelled completely different

1051
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: with like x'es and seid disease and stuff like that.

1052
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: I said, oh, how do you say it? And she

1053
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 2: says Jung? And I said how do you say your

1054
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: original last name? And she said Jung And I was like,

1055
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: it's the same thing, and she's like, no, it's different.

1056
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: She kept saying it's different. I'm like, no, it's just

1057
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: sounds the same. So it's the same as mine. Crown

1058
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: and crown, they sound the same. There's just a.

1059
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: Lot of words people say here that are just so off,

1060
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: and I just feel like the general use of melpropisms

1061
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: is all over the place. Nobody is ever saying the

1062
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: right word or phrase for anything. It's something very specific

1063
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia.

1064
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 2: Area and it's so weird. I love it. Well, we're

1065
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: used to it, all right, guys. If you haven't noticed,

1066
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: if you're not watching our YouTube channel, we are wearing

1067
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: some new merch show off your sweater. Oh yeah, let me.

1068
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: So we have listen.

1069
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: I'm glad we decided to upgrade on the sweatshirts and

1070
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: the hoodies with and the t shirts with the better

1071
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: brand because this is so cozy and I already I

1072
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: got it what two days ago, and I've already worn

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