Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batcheler Happy Hour. I'm Joey
Speaker 1: nic Serena. We are here today with Kat Izzel from
Speaker 1: SAX season of Bachelor, Bachelor and Paradise season nine. Season
Speaker 1: is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think season nine and you just got released, well,
Speaker 1: the cast got released and you're part of the cast
Speaker 1: of the new up and coming season of Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, season ten.
Speaker 2: Back to back seasons, eh, because I guess they took
Speaker 2: the year off. I didn't even think about that. You
Speaker 2: are technically going to be on back to back seasons.
Speaker 4: Technically on back to back season So it's happy to
Speaker 4: be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Guys, why why did you Why did you do it? Why? Why?
Speaker 1: Why did you do this to yourself? Cat?
Speaker 4: You know, I just really needed to have some emotional
Speaker 4: aggression on TV again.
Speaker 3: It just sounded, you know, a feeling solusions powerful.
Speaker 4: But no, I really when asked me to do it,
Speaker 4: I was obviously hesitant because it's not been the best experiences,
Speaker 4: you know, first couple of rounds, but I've grown a
Speaker 4: lot over the last two years. It sounded like it
Speaker 4: was going to be a very different experience than previous
Speaker 4: ones and I think when I thought about it, if
Speaker 4: I were to have said no, you know, and just
Speaker 4: you can't say no to things, you know, you have
Speaker 4: to at least try it out and see what happens
Speaker 4: and see what comes out of it. And I was
Speaker 4: going in with a very different mentality than I think prior,
Speaker 4: so just want to see what was going to come
Speaker 4: from it.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do a little bit of a ketchup, because
Speaker 1: I do remember like you for the most part, from
Speaker 1: what I remember, you kind of carried this season the
Speaker 1: last paradise you were bringing. You were bringing the entertainment
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely the case.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of that paradise you get engaged
Speaker 1: to John Henry, which is a which was kind of
Speaker 1: out of left like it seemed like you guys you
Speaker 1: got together near the end, you got engaged. After the show,
Speaker 1: you call the engagement off. What have you been doing
Speaker 1: since then? Have you been dating? I think you were
Speaker 1: in a relationship prior to this, correct.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So me and John Henry broke up pretty close
Speaker 4: to when it was done airing, So that was I
Speaker 4: want to say, like around December, end of November of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. So I always had plans to move
Speaker 4: to San Diego once I finished my M Keyboards. That's
Speaker 4: what I was kind of studying for during airing.
Speaker 3: So we broke up.
Speaker 4: I passed my m keyboards and I moved to California
Speaker 4: two days later, and then kind of just like got
Speaker 4: settled in San Diego, took a really long break when
Speaker 4: it came to keeping up with the show. I just
Speaker 4: kind of wanted to focus on myself and like start
Speaker 4: my career out here and meet new friends. I did
Speaker 4: stickt into relationship around six months after that, and then
Speaker 4: that also ended six months after that, so literally like
Speaker 4: to back year my I had a relationship end on
Speaker 4: like the same week, so wild you don't like the
Speaker 4: holidays because literally was when that they both happened. But
Speaker 4: it's been really amazing, like moving to California, the people
Speaker 4: here are incredible.
Speaker 3: I love my job.
Speaker 4: I've been working as an inspectation now for about a
Speaker 4: year and a half, working in my dream field of aesthetics,
Speaker 4: and kind of just been like living my best life,
Speaker 4: if you can say. It's definitely come with some ups
Speaker 4: and downs, but overall, it's been a pretty good year
Speaker 4: and a half since I've been here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember you were studying for your MP
Speaker 2: boards when you came on last time, which was kind
Speaker 2: of right before Paradise ended. I think, did you write
Speaker 2: those before or after the breakup?
Speaker 3: Did I take them?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I took it.
Speaker 4: I had to push back the testing date because my
Speaker 4: mental health was so compromised, so I ended up taking
Speaker 4: it in Florida, like right after the breakup.
Speaker 2: Okay, and a big pocket of life for you. Emotionally,
Speaker 2: oh everything, mentally, yeah, everything.
Speaker 4: It was a lot, but it was kind of like
Speaker 4: a way to be like, you're not gonna like nothing
Speaker 4: is going to bring me down, Like I'm still gonna
Speaker 4: keep doing what I was put on a serte to do.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been great.
Speaker 1: Can you all feel free to say no if you
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about any of these things. But
Speaker 1: why did you and John Henry break up?
Speaker 3: You know, nothing like serious that happened.
Speaker 4: I think through the airing of the show, we started
Speaker 4: to learn more about how we each I think, handle
Speaker 4: conflict and adversity, and we just were not gonna I mean,
Speaker 4: it wasn't my choice, and but it ultimately ended up
Speaker 4: being something probably for the best. It was under the
Speaker 4: umbrella of incompatibility, but we didn't really have like any
Speaker 4: major like fights or anything like that. I just think
Speaker 4: it just got too much and he wanted to go
Speaker 4: into a different career path than originally we both thought
Speaker 4: he would want to do, which ultimately led him to Hawaii.
Speaker 4: And it just happened at a really hard time emotionally
Speaker 4: with everything else that was going on. But overall, it
Speaker 4: just we're not We're two good people, but we're definitely
Speaker 4: not each other's people. And I think moments like how
Speaker 4: the show aired and how everything went down with a
Speaker 4: relationship really shows us what you can handle and if
Speaker 4: you're going to be compactful in long term.
Speaker 1: When you guys got engaged, didn't you was there was
Speaker 1: there a part of you that was like, Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know no, so you you believe no?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I believed all. I will believe everything. No. I literally
Speaker 3: was like, this is my person.
Speaker 4: Now looking back, I'm like, I don't think so, but
Speaker 4: I would just like a very different person. Like I
Speaker 4: think that I just was such like a like I
Speaker 4: wanted a relationship so badly. I saw that for myself,
Speaker 4: and like I was willing to believe anything even though
Speaker 4: there was signs in front of me that was saying,
Speaker 4: this is not going to make sense. And I think
Speaker 4: it took something as extreme as that for me to
Speaker 4: like really sit back and evaluate like how I see
Speaker 4: people and see the world. And now I tried a
Speaker 4: little bit lighter. But yeah, no, I fully believed that
Speaker 4: we were like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to marry this man, this is my husband.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, that's good.
Speaker 4: Watching him watching it back and seeing what he was saying.
Speaker 4: I didn't know he said any of that. He didn't
Speaker 4: tell me that, So I.
Speaker 3: Was like, you just broke up with me and you
Speaker 3: already had doubts, like I should have known.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was wild. That's good information for the
Speaker 1: upcoming season of Paradise. Your your past relationship, the one
Speaker 1: that was six months and end it? Can you tell
Speaker 1: us why that ended?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: How do you know it?
Speaker 3: Even we just met through mutual friends.
Speaker 4: It was one of those relationships that I think is
Speaker 4: going to probably help me learn the most about myself
Speaker 4: that I've ever experienced. I have nothing negative to say
Speaker 4: about it. It was it had its ups and downs.
Speaker 4: It just you know, again, I don't think that we
Speaker 4: were in the place of each other's lives where it
Speaker 4: was going to be sustainable, but it was not the
Speaker 4: healthiest I think you could agree. I think we just
Speaker 4: triggered a lot of each other's wounds. But in that
Speaker 4: you learn about yourself in your twenties, that's what it's about.
Speaker 4: So I used that to really be like a catalyst
Speaker 4: and to some deep therapies. That was really helpful.
Speaker 2: You seem to have done a lot of work on yourself.
Speaker 2: I know you've referenced therapy a few times. What specifically
Speaker 2: is that work, Like, what have you been focusing on
Speaker 2: and what do you hope to do differently going into
Speaker 2: paradise this time.
Speaker 4: I think just being curious and like truly like doing
Speaker 4: an internal assessment of your triggers, who you are, and
Speaker 4: like things are going to come up that you're not
Speaker 4: gonna like, but not using that to like not to
Speaker 4: cheer you from people, learning more and just showing up
Speaker 4: in the world with a little bit more awareness and
Speaker 4: like compassion and self love. I really did like deep
Speaker 4: therapy with MDR recently in last six months, and that's
Speaker 4: been the most beneficial. It's you know, supposed to help
Speaker 4: with all my things, and it really has helped a lot,
Speaker 4: But I think just learning how to like ground myself
Speaker 4: in moments of high stress, being less reactive, because ultimately
Speaker 4: that's I think was just my default state and learning
Speaker 4: to like take that pause, and that's I.
Speaker 3: Think what really helped in talking through and understanding yourself.
Speaker 1: Are you do you have any who do you hang
Speaker 1: out with and you're in San Diego? Do you have
Speaker 1: any like bachelor friends or anything like that.
Speaker 4: I'm still friends with Kylie see here pretty often. Some
Speaker 4: of the other girls we grew apart, but still like
Speaker 4: see each other and like do different things. It's just
Speaker 4: San Diego's like such a community based area. Everybody like
Speaker 4: becomes friends so easily, and people here are really welcoming.
Speaker 3: So I've I have such amazing friends here.
Speaker 4: I actually like met Jess Edwards like a month before
Speaker 4: we went on Paradise together, and we're like kind of
Speaker 4: have the same beautiful friends, and so she's been one
Speaker 4: of my good friends and good friends throughout. So it's
Speaker 4: been it's pretty much like everybody that's like in the
Speaker 4: wellness like space, I would say, kind of all hang
Speaker 4: out and they're same.
Speaker 2: Love San Diego. Do you think you'll stay there for now?
Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure.
Speaker 4: It's a really good I would say place for where
Speaker 4: I was at when it came to career. And then
Speaker 4: I just love the community aspect of it. Everyone's very welcoming.
Speaker 4: I mean it's still California, so they're still like fake energy,
Speaker 4: but the real ones stick together.
Speaker 1: So nice friend. Okay, so you are how your relationship ends? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you get a phone call for paradise. What's the
Speaker 1: timeline from the relationship ending to the phone call of hey,
Speaker 1: would you be interested in coming on Paradise?
Speaker 4: I don't remember when they called me. It was this year.
Speaker 4: I mean at first I was like, I'm not going
Speaker 4: on Paradise. Me and my most relationship we broke up
Speaker 4: around November, kind of lived in limbo until maybe.
Speaker 3: Like January, February, I can't remember. Sometime it was.
Speaker 4: It's all a blur, but they called me, I want
Speaker 4: to say, like around March or April, I can't remember,
Speaker 4: somewhere around like springtime. But I was like I needed
Speaker 4: a lot of convincing, like I didn't. I was not
Speaker 4: just like yeah, I'll do it, Like I needed them
Speaker 4: to like really make me feel comfortable about putting myself
Speaker 4: back in that environment. And it was definitely something that
Speaker 4: I decided to do very last than it because I
Speaker 4: was still every time I say yes, I'd be like, no,
Speaker 4: I can't do that again, like I'm scared.
Speaker 1: Was it? What was the deal breaker?
Speaker 3: I think I really was just like if I say
Speaker 3: no and.
Speaker 4: Regret it, like it's not something I want to like regret,
Speaker 4: Like what if there was someone there actually that I
Speaker 4: could meet or an experience that could be helpful for
Speaker 4: me to understand myself again, you know, It's just it's
Speaker 4: not something you really say no too.
Speaker 3: But it was mostly convincing me. With the air conditioning.
Speaker 4: I was like, you have to promise that there is
Speaker 4: air conditioning otherwise I'm not going like I'm not doing it,
Speaker 4: and they every time I asked was always started the
Speaker 4: conversation and not up for it, you know, like you know,
Speaker 4: I didn't know it was true or not. But I
Speaker 4: also said I have the ability to literally like it's
Speaker 4: not what I want, I'm I could just leap, like
Speaker 4: I don't have to stay. And I was going in
Speaker 4: knowing literally no one, knowing nothing about the shows I
Speaker 4: haven't been watching, so like it was just a completely
Speaker 4: different mindset versus like knowing every single thing about every
Speaker 4: guy on Paradise last time and being friends with the girls,
Speaker 4: so I wanted to kind of just like see how
Speaker 4: that was going to play out.
Speaker 2: What did your friends and family say when you were like,
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to go back on Paradise this year.
Speaker 4: Some of them were like, absolutely not, please don't because
Speaker 4: we can't handle it again. But some were like, you
Speaker 4: should just go for it, and you have a lot
Speaker 4: more like you're different person and I think you'd handle
Speaker 4: it differently and why would you say no to something
Speaker 4: like that? But yeah, I immediately texted my little group
Speaker 4: chat and it was like help SOS.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: What was your base fear going back on my.
Speaker 4: Biggest fear so many Well, I just learned that people
Speaker 4: are very different outside of the show, and I think
Speaker 4: I was mostly just like scared I was going to
Speaker 4: get wrapped up in it again and then ended up
Speaker 4: leaving getting hurt when I came off it.
Speaker 3: You know, I knew there was bugs, so I can't
Speaker 3: be afraid of that.
Speaker 4: But it was mostly just like the trusting someone again
Speaker 4: and it be to my detriment and make sure that
Speaker 4: I don't get wrapped up in it. All the things
Speaker 4: and just making sure I can like stay grounded.
Speaker 1: It's definitely one of those things where once you're like,
Speaker 1: once you're in this world and you are single, it
Speaker 1: really is like it's kind it's hard to say no
Speaker 1: because it's just like yeah, it's it's just easier to
Speaker 1: say yes, you know, yes I will. Just it's one
Speaker 1: of those things where it's like, you don't I agree
Speaker 1: with you, And that's probably why I've always said yes
Speaker 1: as well. It's just like I don't want to live
Speaker 1: with the regrets.
Speaker 2: You're probably I'm more likely going to regret not doing
Speaker 2: this doing it when it comes down to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just I think I was so scared that,
Speaker 4: you know, if you're putting yourself out there to be analyzed, criticized,
Speaker 4: puts apart just like overall judged, Like that was really
Speaker 4: really hard on my mental health, and it was hard
Speaker 4: to feel my character being misunderstood. So I think I
Speaker 4: just like didn't know if I was willing to, like,
Speaker 4: I'm very happy with where I'm at in life, and
Speaker 4: I didn't know if I wanted to kind of like
Speaker 4: you know, uproot, you know, put that under a microscope again.
Speaker 4: And the subject to.
Speaker 1: Keep judgement. Yeah, do you have a plan going into
Speaker 1: this season of how you'll handle being judged negatively by people?
Speaker 1: Because I agree with me, it's not easy.
Speaker 4: It's not I think also I understand it more like
Speaker 4: the first time around, I didn't understand the way that
Speaker 4: public response is or how people like like. It's just
Speaker 4: like I didn't know that this was something that people
Speaker 4: face to this extent and not taking it so personally,
Speaker 4: keeping your people close and knowing that that's what matters.
Speaker 4: I have a really good support team and system in place,
Speaker 4: so and I just.
Speaker 3: Don't care like I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't feel the desire to look at it or
Speaker 4: see it and use that to determine my work the
Speaker 4: way I think I did before because I was just
Speaker 4: so like, what's happening?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And it goes away?
Speaker 3: I mean it does now I know that it is temporary.
Speaker 4: Like at the time, you feel like it's never going
Speaker 4: to end, and this time you're going to deal with
Speaker 4: the rest of your life. But now that I know
Speaker 4: that it comes in waves, you can handle a wave
Speaker 4: I can handle anyways.
Speaker 1: You're the first. You're the first contestant. You're the first
Speaker 1: contestant that we are interviewing that's been on Paradise before. Okay,
Speaker 1: living living conditions, what's like much better because I've heard
Speaker 1: we're hearing much better.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Like its incredible, like really different. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how much I could share, but it
Speaker 4: was it is nothing like previous paradise absolutely not like
Speaker 4: it's It really just shows like how much your mental
Speaker 4: health can be, like so much better when you can
Speaker 4: do your hair and your makeup.
Speaker 3: Not in humanity. It really brings.
Speaker 4: The different it's like or just to be able to
Speaker 4: have somewhere to escape to to like take a breath
Speaker 4: and like pull down.
Speaker 3: It was so much better.
Speaker 4: You had just a bed to sleep in that you
Speaker 4: didn't have to step outside your bed and there was
Speaker 4: sand on the ground. Or you shower and you feel clean,
Speaker 4: like truly it was like little things like that, like
Speaker 4: you actually can like feel clean and refreshed, and then
Speaker 4: you just feel more like you're better self. Like I
Speaker 4: didn't shower without I showered like three times a day
Speaker 4: just to cool off, and then you would step outside
Speaker 4: the shower and their sand like on the floor.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, we just saw I just
Speaker 1: saw a clip. We just saw a clip of each other,
Speaker 1: and I was like, my face is so fucking oily.
Speaker 1: It looks like I haven't seen a shower. Like I
Speaker 1: got engaged. I got engaged. I wasn't even matching, like
Speaker 1: nothing matched. Like I was like I we the mirrors.
Speaker 1: You couldn't even really see yourself because they were always folded.
Speaker 3: There was no mirrors.
Speaker 4: I used like the small compact like thing in my
Speaker 4: like eye shadow palate, like just see and like just
Speaker 4: sitting there trying not to like I didn't do my
Speaker 4: hair previous paradise, I couldn't do my makeup like it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just love life like that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I need to actually take it second to
Speaker 4: take care of myself this time because last time people
Speaker 4: saw me, I was like a frat.
Speaker 2: Well, you also would just feel sexier to to like
Speaker 2: go out and flirt with boys when you're like I
Speaker 2: feel cute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, you could self tan and not start sweating
Speaker 4: off like I was like actually able to do my
Speaker 4: self tan routine like it was amazing.
Speaker 3: It was so much better.
Speaker 4: It was like during the wedding episode of Marine kind
Speaker 4: of getting married, like I had self tanner sitting like
Speaker 4: on me like fresh because I'm like, I'm pale right
Speaker 4: now and I can't do anything about it.
Speaker 2: And it was almost in the sun, Like I don't
Speaker 2: really get that tan on Paradise because I don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't sun, but I wouldn't be able
Speaker 4: to because it's just too hot. But also the weather
Speaker 4: in Coastrica was different, like I think because it rained
Speaker 4: more that there was so much more of a cool
Speaker 4: breeze than like ours, and we high no rain, so
Speaker 4: it was like just constantly like fought and humid the
Speaker 4: entire time, like.
Speaker 3: There was no breeze.
Speaker 4: So there's like you're consistent breeze and I kind of
Speaker 4: love doing it rains because then we could go inside and.
Speaker 2: You're an inside girl, you really are.
Speaker 4: I'm an outside girl in the right positions, Like I'm
Speaker 4: outside all the time in San Diego because it's like
Speaker 4: six or seven right now.
Speaker 1: Nice but it's.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the summer here is unreal, but yeah, no
Speaker 4: anywhere else, Yeah, I'm inside.
Speaker 3: I prefer the indoors no more.
Speaker 2: Evy, we see that the cast is obviously dropped. We know,
Speaker 2: you know, we don't know who's coming, but we know
Speaker 2: who's down there. Day one was there anyone that you
Speaker 2: were nervous or excited to see.
Speaker 4: I didn't know anybody like going, and I didn't know
Speaker 4: who was going. I didn't know who could potentially be there,
Speaker 4: So I guess I was just nervous because like, I
Speaker 4: didn't know what to expect, but there wasn't I really
Speaker 4: didn't know anyone that was going to be there, or
Speaker 4: one they would be there anything.
Speaker 1: But when you saw them, did you know who they?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Some of them were like that first day, like did
Speaker 1: you I.
Speaker 4: Knew who Jonathan Wise because I've seen him in San Diego,
Speaker 4: didn't know Jeremy, didn't know Spencer, Like I had no
Speaker 4: idea whose people were.
Speaker 1: How about the Goldens? Did you Did you have any
Speaker 1: clue who any of them would be?
Speaker 4: So weirdly enough, the weekend before was Stagecoach. I like,
Speaker 4: finished Stage Coach and gone on a plane. I met
Speaker 4: Keith in the middle of Tea Payne like front row pain.
Speaker 4: That was like wait what and then he's like, I'm
Speaker 4: going too, and I was like, wait, this is so funny.
Speaker 4: You're so cool, and like I can't wait to be
Speaker 4: on the beach with you.
Speaker 3: We love Keith, But that's it. I didn't know anyone else.
Speaker 2: Were you more excited about that or were you kind
Speaker 2: of like, oh, I wish I had like one girl
Speaker 2: here that I could.
Speaker 4: Well I did, I had Jeff, I had Jeff Edwards,
Speaker 4: but other I mean, honestly, no, I think it really
Speaker 4: ended up affecting how we all moved in Paradise, like
Speaker 4: having you know, that like underlying friendship and like knowing
Speaker 4: what everyone was who they wanted, because then nobody wanted
Speaker 4: to like act for themselves in a way. So I
Speaker 4: loved that every friendship was going to start off fresh
Speaker 4: and I can pretty much become fronts with anybody, especially girlies.
Speaker 4: So I figured everyone is going to be someone that
Speaker 4: I became friends with in the moment.
Speaker 1: What you got, you got something?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got something.
Speaker 1: I got something too, So.
Speaker 2: All right, in terms of a relationship, what were you
Speaker 2: looking for?
Speaker 1: God damn it, that was literally that was that was
Speaker 1: where I was. I was going to say, qualities, Okay,
Speaker 1: well wow, same same, same.
Speaker 4: Same graveling. I was like, really just looking for an
Speaker 4: adult somebody that was like Keith, listen, they might be
Speaker 4: of age, but you don't know, they could still just
Speaker 4: be band children.
Speaker 3: But that's true.
Speaker 4: I really just wanted somebody that has lived enough life
Speaker 4: I think, to be able to be like a good
Speaker 4: supportive partner and like take life seriously with me. Someone
Speaker 4: I could like trust what's going to be there for
Speaker 4: me through the ups and downs, and mostly just qualities
Speaker 4: of compassion and kindness to everybody, and like truly like authentic,
Speaker 4: like who they are, who they say they are. There's
Speaker 4: no like people pleasing, there's no like I want to
Speaker 4: be this way, to be that way, like just be
Speaker 4: yourself and have fun. Obviously somebody that can laugh with me,
Speaker 4: but mostly somebody that at least was like above the
Speaker 4: age of thirty, because usually they're testosterones down a little bit,
Speaker 4: so they're a little tired.
Speaker 1: Because yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4: I would not want to like go out every weekend
Speaker 4: like take you know, just has their priorities intact and
Speaker 4: nothing to say, like I'm not like throwing shade. It's
Speaker 4: just like I think I've learned through my relationships that
Speaker 4: I that's where I'm at and like that's how I
Speaker 4: value my life and my priorities. And it's so much
Speaker 4: better when your person matches that because then you're not
Speaker 4: like conflicting with each other on what how you want to.
Speaker 2: Do, like to get vend your Saturday, right.
Speaker 4: So I really just wanted that. And then someone that
Speaker 4: thinks so funny it's about.
Speaker 1: It, was there anyone that was there? Anyone that you
Speaker 1: were worried about potentially being there that you were like,
Speaker 1: I really hope I don't see this person on the
Speaker 1: beach guys anyway, like like did you? Yeah, who were you?
Speaker 1: Who were you beefing with on your on your season
Speaker 1: of Paradise.
Speaker 3: I think it's just well, Olivia didn't really, it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't very I just like I didn't want anything or
Speaker 4: anyone that was there to create some like I guess
Speaker 4: just like chaos and drama because when that happens, it
Speaker 4: really takes away from building a relationship with like your
Speaker 4: potential partner. So I just didn't want anyone that could
Speaker 4: potentially do that. I don't know if that would have
Speaker 4: been her m, but there's still not worry if any
Speaker 4: of that. I called John Henry the moment I got
Speaker 4: my call, so I was like, are you gonna be
Speaker 4: on this page with me? I need to know yeah,
Speaker 4: And he told me he couldn't because of work and stuff,
Speaker 4: and then we caught up so we're in a good place.
Speaker 3: But even if he was, it would have been fine.
Speaker 4: I was like, you should like this, you know whatever
Speaker 4: we'll see, but uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 4: I think that I have a little bit more confidence
Speaker 4: in how I handle things now where I could weather
Speaker 4: a lot more than I could before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, going into this season, did you have any like,
Speaker 2: like I know you said you feel like you're going
Speaker 2: to handle thing blood differently this time. Did you have
Speaker 2: like any grounding techniques or specific things that you were
Speaker 2: like bringing in with you and your their meditations?
Speaker 1: Well, I meditate. I meditate.
Speaker 3: I was journaling every day.
Speaker 4: I did not do that last time, just to you know,
Speaker 4: you can get lost track of time. Day's London to
Speaker 4: each other and just like keeping every day like like
Speaker 4: I had to like go back and read where my
Speaker 4: thoughts are at. I checked in with the therapists like
Speaker 4: almost every three days while on set, just to ground myself,
Speaker 4: talk about how I'm feeling, make sure that everything seems
Speaker 4: like okay, some eft's happening online, your spots. Whenever you're
Speaker 4: feeling stressed, like you hit that and it's like supposed
Speaker 4: to colm down your nervous system.
Speaker 3: Beta blockers are really great.
Speaker 4: It was taking that a few times just like you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just but also like not taking
Speaker 4: it too seriously, like just having fun and like understanding
Speaker 4: that this is it's I took it so seriously before.
Speaker 3: And I think just like the new mindset can be
Speaker 3: new wonders for what can happen.
Speaker 1: Were you open to an engagement this time or were
Speaker 1: you more just like I'm gonna take my time see
Speaker 1: where this goes, and I kind of want to just
Speaker 1: like leave in a relationship.
Speaker 3: I did not go in saying I was going to
Speaker 3: leave engage that is it. I didn't. I definitely was
Speaker 3: not going in and say I was going to be
Speaker 3: engaged to any capacity.
Speaker 1: Well, I will say like my my second time around,
Speaker 1: I was more prepared to have the core the right
Speaker 1: conversations with Serena as far as just like how how
Speaker 1: actually do we see this working after this showing and
Speaker 1: did you did you do that? Like are were you
Speaker 1: open to are you open to moving?
Speaker 3: If that's the case, If am I open to one?
Speaker 1: Like if you meet someone, are you open to potentially moving?
Speaker 4: Like oh yeah, I was asking I knew way more
Speaker 4: about or I yeah, I went in with a lot
Speaker 4: more awareness on like what I needed to ask and
Speaker 4: things I needed to like assess, and how I needed
Speaker 4: to see how people handled situations than I did in
Speaker 4: the past, just from but you can only really do
Speaker 4: that if you've already lived in and so that's pretty
Speaker 4: much how I approached it. So it wasn't just like
Speaker 4: blindly like oh, you're cute and like you're funny, and
Speaker 4: like this is gonna be great, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Like No, it was very very like thought out without
Speaker 2: giving too much away obviously, how do you feel like
Speaker 2: this experience on Bachelom Paradise for you was different from
Speaker 2: your first experience?
Speaker 3: I mean was a laundry list.
Speaker 4: There's like oh, from the environment, from the people, from
Speaker 4: like how I showed up, from just every like the
Speaker 4: the beach, the creative, like the it was just fun
Speaker 4: like it was I had a lot of good I
Speaker 4: had a really good time. I would say, we don't
Speaker 4: want to give everything away. It definitely came still with
Speaker 4: ups and downs, like it's still you know, an environment
Speaker 4: where you're putting yourself out there to potentially be heard,
Speaker 4: and like you don't know how it's gonna end. And
Speaker 4: but that's with everything, that's with life, So I just
Speaker 4: approached it from that perspective, but it was just so
Speaker 4: much more like and I.
Speaker 3: Who knows, So I'm delusional, Like I think I said that.
Speaker 1: You're freaking out already. You're freaking out already.
Speaker 4: Like you know what, I'm freaking out because I'm saying
Speaker 4: it's positive, and like I did that before and it
Speaker 4: was not so scared enough.
Speaker 2: I get that, but you know, I want it to
Speaker 2: air and then be like, wait, this is what went down,
Speaker 2: this is how it came across.
Speaker 3: You know, wh I rather live life the rose colored glasses.
Speaker 3: I don't care. I love being delusional. It's not me
Speaker 3: be very far.
Speaker 1: So I think I think it's gonna go I mean,
Speaker 1: if I were to guess, I think it's gonna go
Speaker 1: good for you. But like then again, like I've been wrong,
Speaker 1: so I don't know.
Speaker 4: If it all comes down to like how it's I mean,
Speaker 4: I think I also like was not I remember so
Speaker 4: much of it, maybe just because I was journaling as
Speaker 4: often as I was, but like before I remember like
Speaker 4: how it wasn't just like Boston the sauce I think I.
Speaker 3: Was or you like I know what's going on present?
Speaker 2: How was having the Golden Sale there?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: It was so fun.
Speaker 4: It was a great, great choice, Like good job Produceriously,
Speaker 4: it was incredible.
Speaker 3: They were they just like when I guess when you're
Speaker 3: at that age, you just don't care. So it was
Speaker 3: like they're not.
Speaker 4: Worried about Instagram followers or how they're like gonna look
Speaker 4: for their brand. Like they're just actually like so authentic
Speaker 4: and who they are. And they gave us a lot
Speaker 4: of insight to just like life, and I got to
Speaker 4: learn about so many of their different stories and things
Speaker 4: that they've experienced, and I feel like that put into
Speaker 4: perspective like where we're all at now and kind of
Speaker 4: just take things a little less like intensely.
Speaker 3: But they were just so fun. They were hilarious. They
Speaker 3: did not care. They had a great time. They made
Speaker 3: us loose enough.
Speaker 1: Actually, how was how was having Hannah Brown there?
Speaker 3: It was really fun too. She was like kind of
Speaker 3: like a girly.
Speaker 4: She was there mostly during Rose ceremony nights and stuff
Speaker 4: and just kind of someone to like tell the tea
Speaker 4: too and see how she experienced stuff. It was also
Speaker 4: for me like she's lived a lot of she's done
Speaker 4: the show in different ways and been part of it,
Speaker 4: so I felt like I could connect with her in
Speaker 4: that way and understand like if I'm having a if
Speaker 4: I'm on the verge of having a cash out, like
Speaker 4: you know, it's this valid to be brought back down
Speaker 4: to earth and she was there for that.
Speaker 1: If after watching this current season, what do you want
Speaker 1: the viewers to learn about who you are as a person?
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. That's scary. I guess just like.
Speaker 4: That I am human, Like we're just I'm a very
Speaker 4: like normal girl living a very normal life. And you
Speaker 4: can also see where like whatever happens in your life
Speaker 4: like stages and seasons does not have to define you
Speaker 4: in any carasting like you have that autonomy to change
Speaker 4: how you go through life. And I think that that's
Speaker 4: going to be shown. And that's also just something I've
Speaker 4: kind of done my entire life. So maybe just that
Speaker 4: and like that I'm just like a normal girly and
Speaker 4: like live more delusional. It's a lot easier that way.
Speaker 4: This is true yourself, like like just I'm I'm accidentally
Speaker 4: authentic to a bon't and nobody should ever be ashamed
Speaker 4: of that, like own it.
Speaker 2: If you could tease this upcoming season of Paradise.
Speaker 3: In a few words, Oh gosh, what would you do?
Speaker 2: What would you say?
Speaker 4: Oh? It is different, fun and more aesthetically pleasing. I
Speaker 4: would say, for sure, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It looks that way.
Speaker 4: Yew.
Speaker 2: The teasers are looking really good.
Speaker 3: It's much more aesthetically even.
Speaker 2: Like the headshot, everything is elevated and I'm.
Speaker 1: Actually not for that part.
Speaker 3: Joe's jealous.
Speaker 4: I knew there was going to be someone that like
Speaker 4: wanted us to still look like like a little wrap
Speaker 4: on the beach, like they're like fise like of.
Speaker 3: Them like dying and like, no, no, this was really good.
Speaker 3: Never to go back. No, I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 1: Well, Kat, we are really looking forward to watching you
Speaker 1: on this upcoming season of Paradise. We wish you the best.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll hear from you again. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for hopping on. Thank you fun, and to all
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Speaker 2: We have new exclusive interviews coming every single week as
Speaker 2: we tea up for the new season of Bachelor Paradise
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Speaker 4: Bye