1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batcheler Happy Hour. I'm Joey 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: nic Serena. We are here today with Kat Izzel from 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: SAX season of Bachelor, Bachelor and Paradise season nine. Season 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: is that right? 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: Yeah? 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: I think season nine and you just got released, well, 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: the cast got released and you're part of the cast 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: of the new up and coming season of Bachelor in Paradise. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, season ten. 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: Back to back seasons, eh, because I guess they took 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: the year off. I didn't even think about that. You 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: are technically going to be on back to back seasons. 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 4: Technically on back to back season So it's happy to 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: be here. Thanks for having me. 15 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: Guys, why why did you Why did you do it? Why? Why? 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Why did you do this to yourself? Cat? 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 4: You know, I just really needed to have some emotional 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 4: aggression on TV again. 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 3: It just sounded, you know, a feeling solusions powerful. 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 4: But no, I really when asked me to do it, 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 4: I was obviously hesitant because it's not been the best experiences, 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 4: you know, first couple of rounds, but I've grown a 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 4: lot over the last two years. It sounded like it 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: was going to be a very different experience than previous 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: ones and I think when I thought about it, if 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: I were to have said no, you know, and just 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 4: you can't say no to things, you know, you have 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: to at least try it out and see what happens 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: and see what comes out of it. And I was 30 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 4: going in with a very different mentality than I think prior, 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: so just want to see what was going to come 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 4: from it. 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Okay, let's do a little bit of a ketchup, because 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: I do remember like you for the most part, from 35 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: what I remember, you kind of carried this season the 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: last paradise you were bringing. You were bringing the entertainment 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: for sure. 38 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely the case. 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of that paradise you get engaged 40 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: to John Henry, which is a which was kind of 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: out of left like it seemed like you guys you 42 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: got together near the end, you got engaged. After the show, 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: you call the engagement off. What have you been doing 44 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: since then? Have you been dating? I think you were 45 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: in a relationship prior to this, correct. 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, So me and John Henry broke up pretty close 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: to when it was done airing, So that was I 48 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: want to say, like around December, end of November of 49 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. So I always had plans to move 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: to San Diego once I finished my M Keyboards. That's 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 4: what I was kind of studying for during airing. 52 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: So we broke up. 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: I passed my m keyboards and I moved to California 54 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 4: two days later, and then kind of just like got 55 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: settled in San Diego, took a really long break when 56 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 4: it came to keeping up with the show. I just 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 4: kind of wanted to focus on myself and like start 58 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 4: my career out here and meet new friends. I did 59 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: stickt into relationship around six months after that, and then 60 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 4: that also ended six months after that, so literally like 61 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: to back year my I had a relationship end on 62 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: like the same week, so wild you don't like the 63 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 4: holidays because literally was when that they both happened. But 64 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: it's been really amazing, like moving to California, the people 65 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: here are incredible. 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: I love my job. 67 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 4: I've been working as an inspectation now for about a 68 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,279 Speaker 4: year and a half, working in my dream field of aesthetics, 69 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: and kind of just been like living my best life, 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: if you can say. It's definitely come with some ups 71 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 4: and downs, but overall, it's been a pretty good year 72 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: and a half since I've been here. 73 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember you were studying for your MP 74 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: boards when you came on last time, which was kind 75 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: of right before Paradise ended. I think, did you write 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: those before or after the breakup? 77 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: Did I take them? 78 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 79 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: I took it. 80 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: I had to push back the testing date because my 81 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: mental health was so compromised, so I ended up taking 82 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: it in Florida, like right after the breakup. 83 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: Okay, and a big pocket of life for you. Emotionally, 84 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: oh everything, mentally, yeah, everything. 85 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: It was a lot, but it was kind of like 86 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: a way to be like, you're not gonna like nothing 87 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 4: is going to bring me down, Like I'm still gonna 88 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 4: keep doing what I was put on a serte to do. 89 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been great. 90 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: Can you all feel free to say no if you 91 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about any of these things. But 92 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: why did you and John Henry break up? 93 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: You know, nothing like serious that happened. 94 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 4: I think through the airing of the show, we started 95 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: to learn more about how we each I think, handle 96 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 4: conflict and adversity, and we just were not gonna I mean, 97 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: it wasn't my choice, and but it ultimately ended up 98 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: being something probably for the best. It was under the 99 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: umbrella of incompatibility, but we didn't really have like any 100 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 4: major like fights or anything like that. I just think 101 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 4: it just got too much and he wanted to go 102 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: into a different career path than originally we both thought 103 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 4: he would want to do, which ultimately led him to Hawaii. 104 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 4: And it just happened at a really hard time emotionally 105 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: with everything else that was going on. But overall, it 106 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 4: just we're not We're two good people, but we're definitely 107 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 4: not each other's people. And I think moments like how 108 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: the show aired and how everything went down with a 109 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: relationship really shows us what you can handle and if 110 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 4: you're going to be compactful in long term. 111 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: When you guys got engaged, didn't you was there was 112 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: there a part of you that was like, Oh, I 113 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know no, so you you believe no? 114 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 115 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: I believed all. I will believe everything. No. I literally 116 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: was like, this is my person. 117 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 4: Now looking back, I'm like, I don't think so, but 118 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 4: I would just like a very different person. Like I 119 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 4: think that I just was such like a like I 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: wanted a relationship so badly. I saw that for myself, 121 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 4: and like I was willing to believe anything even though 122 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: there was signs in front of me that was saying, 123 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: this is not going to make sense. And I think 124 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 4: it took something as extreme as that for me to 125 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 4: like really sit back and evaluate like how I see 126 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 4: people and see the world. And now I tried a 127 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 4: little bit lighter. But yeah, no, I fully believed that 128 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: we were like. 129 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to marry this man, this is my husband. 130 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, that's good. 131 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: Watching him watching it back and seeing what he was saying. 132 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 4: I didn't know he said any of that. He didn't 133 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: tell me that, So I. 134 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: Was like, you just broke up with me and you 135 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 3: already had doubts, like I should have known. 136 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was wild. That's good information for the 137 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: upcoming season of Paradise. Your your past relationship, the one 138 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: that was six months and end it? Can you tell 139 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: us why that ended? 140 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 4: Like? 141 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: How do you know it? 142 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: Even we just met through mutual friends. 143 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 4: It was one of those relationships that I think is 144 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: going to probably help me learn the most about myself 145 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 4: that I've ever experienced. I have nothing negative to say 146 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: about it. It was it had its ups and downs. 147 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: It just you know, again, I don't think that we 148 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: were in the place of each other's lives where it 149 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 4: was going to be sustainable, but it was not the 150 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: healthiest I think you could agree. I think we just 151 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 4: triggered a lot of each other's wounds. But in that 152 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: you learn about yourself in your twenties, that's what it's about. 153 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 4: So I used that to really be like a catalyst 154 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: and to some deep therapies. That was really helpful. 155 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: You seem to have done a lot of work on yourself. 156 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: I know you've referenced therapy a few times. What specifically 157 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: is that work, Like, what have you been focusing on 158 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: and what do you hope to do differently going into 159 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: paradise this time. 160 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: I think just being curious and like truly like doing 161 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: an internal assessment of your triggers, who you are, and 162 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 4: like things are going to come up that you're not 163 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: gonna like, but not using that to like not to 164 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: cheer you from people, learning more and just showing up 165 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: in the world with a little bit more awareness and 166 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: like compassion and self love. I really did like deep 167 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 4: therapy with MDR recently in last six months, and that's 168 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: been the most beneficial. It's you know, supposed to help 169 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: with all my things, and it really has helped a lot, 170 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: But I think just learning how to like ground myself 171 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: in moments of high stress, being less reactive, because ultimately 172 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: that's I think was just my default state and learning 173 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: to like take that pause, and that's I. 174 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: Think what really helped in talking through and understanding yourself. 175 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: Are you do you have any who do you hang 176 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: out with and you're in San Diego? Do you have 177 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: any like bachelor friends or anything like that. 178 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: I'm still friends with Kylie see here pretty often. Some 179 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 4: of the other girls we grew apart, but still like 180 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: see each other and like do different things. It's just 181 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 4: San Diego's like such a community based area. Everybody like 182 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 4: becomes friends so easily, and people here are really welcoming. 183 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: So I've I have such amazing friends here. 184 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: I actually like met Jess Edwards like a month before 185 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 4: we went on Paradise together, and we're like kind of 186 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 4: have the same beautiful friends, and so she's been one 187 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 4: of my good friends and good friends throughout. So it's 188 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: been it's pretty much like everybody that's like in the 189 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: wellness like space, I would say, kind of all hang 190 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 4: out and they're same. 191 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: Love San Diego. Do you think you'll stay there for now? 192 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure. 193 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: It's a really good I would say place for where 194 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 4: I was at when it came to career. And then 195 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 4: I just love the community aspect of it. Everyone's very welcoming. 196 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 4: I mean it's still California, so they're still like fake energy, 197 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 4: but the real ones stick together. 198 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: So nice friend. Okay, so you are how your relationship ends? Yeah, 199 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: and you get a phone call for paradise. What's the 200 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: timeline from the relationship ending to the phone call of hey, 201 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: would you be interested in coming on Paradise? 202 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: I don't remember when they called me. It was this year. 203 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 4: I mean at first I was like, I'm not going 204 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 4: on Paradise. Me and my most relationship we broke up 205 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: around November, kind of lived in limbo until maybe. 206 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: Like January, February, I can't remember. Sometime it was. 207 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 4: It's all a blur, but they called me, I want 208 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: to say, like around March or April, I can't remember, 209 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: somewhere around like springtime. But I was like I needed 210 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: a lot of convincing, like I didn't. I was not 211 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: just like yeah, I'll do it, Like I needed them 212 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: to like really make me feel comfortable about putting myself 213 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 4: back in that environment. And it was definitely something that 214 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 4: I decided to do very last than it because I 215 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: was still every time I say yes, I'd be like, no, 216 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 4: I can't do that again, like I'm scared. 217 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: Was it? What was the deal breaker? 218 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: I think I really was just like if I say 219 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: no and. 220 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: Regret it, like it's not something I want to like regret, 221 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: Like what if there was someone there actually that I 222 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: could meet or an experience that could be helpful for 223 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: me to understand myself again, you know, It's just it's 224 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 4: not something you really say no too. 225 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: But it was mostly convincing me. With the air conditioning. 226 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: I was like, you have to promise that there is 227 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 4: air conditioning otherwise I'm not going like I'm not doing it, 228 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: and they every time I asked was always started the 229 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: conversation and not up for it, you know, like you know, 230 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 4: I didn't know it was true or not. But I 231 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 4: also said I have the ability to literally like it's 232 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: not what I want, I'm I could just leap, like 233 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: I don't have to stay. And I was going in 234 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 4: knowing literally no one, knowing nothing about the shows I 235 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: haven't been watching, so like it was just a completely 236 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: different mindset versus like knowing every single thing about every 237 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 4: guy on Paradise last time and being friends with the girls, 238 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: so I wanted to kind of just like see how 239 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: that was going to play out. 240 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: What did your friends and family say when you were like, 241 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: I think I'm going to go back on Paradise this year. 242 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 4: Some of them were like, absolutely not, please don't because 243 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: we can't handle it again. But some were like, you 244 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 4: should just go for it, and you have a lot 245 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 4: more like you're different person and I think you'd handle 246 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: it differently and why would you say no to something 247 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 4: like that? But yeah, I immediately texted my little group 248 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: chat and it was like help SOS. 249 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. 250 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: What was your base fear going back on my. 251 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: Biggest fear so many Well, I just learned that people 252 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 4: are very different outside of the show, and I think 253 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: I was mostly just like scared I was going to 254 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 4: get wrapped up in it again and then ended up 255 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 4: leaving getting hurt when I came off it. 256 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: You know, I knew there was bugs, so I can't 257 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: be afraid of that. 258 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 4: But it was mostly just like the trusting someone again 259 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 4: and it be to my detriment and make sure that 260 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: I don't get wrapped up in it. All the things 261 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: and just making sure I can like stay grounded. 262 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: It's definitely one of those things where once you're like, 263 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: once you're in this world and you are single, it 264 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: really is like it's kind it's hard to say no 265 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: because it's just like yeah, it's it's just easier to 266 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: say yes, you know, yes I will. Just it's one 267 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: of those things where it's like, you don't I agree 268 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: with you, And that's probably why I've always said yes 269 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: as well. It's just like I don't want to live 270 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: with the regrets. 271 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: You're probably I'm more likely going to regret not doing 272 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: this doing it when it comes down to it. 273 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just I think I was so scared that, 274 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 4: you know, if you're putting yourself out there to be analyzed, criticized, 275 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 4: puts apart just like overall judged, Like that was really 276 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: really hard on my mental health, and it was hard 277 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: to feel my character being misunderstood. So I think I 278 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: just like didn't know if I was willing to, like, 279 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: I'm very happy with where I'm at in life, and 280 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 4: I didn't know if I wanted to kind of like 281 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 4: you know, uproot, you know, put that under a microscope again. 282 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: And the subject to. 283 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: Keep judgement. Yeah, do you have a plan going into 284 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: this season of how you'll handle being judged negatively by people? 285 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: Because I agree with me, it's not easy. 286 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: It's not I think also I understand it more like 287 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: the first time around, I didn't understand the way that 288 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 4: public response is or how people like like. It's just 289 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: like I didn't know that this was something that people 290 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: face to this extent and not taking it so personally, 291 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: keeping your people close and knowing that that's what matters. 292 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: I have a really good support team and system in place, 293 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: so and I just. 294 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: Don't care like I don't. 295 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 4: I don't feel the desire to look at it or 296 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 4: see it and use that to determine my work the 297 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: way I think I did before because I was just 298 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 4: so like, what's happening? 299 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? And it goes away? 300 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: I mean it does now I know that it is temporary. 301 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: Like at the time, you feel like it's never going 302 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: to end, and this time you're going to deal with 303 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 4: the rest of your life. But now that I know 304 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: that it comes in waves, you can handle a wave 305 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: I can handle anyways. 306 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: You're the first. You're the first contestant. You're the first 307 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: contestant that we are interviewing that's been on Paradise before. Okay, 308 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: living living conditions, what's like much better because I've heard 309 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: we're hearing much better. 310 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Like its incredible, like really different. Yeah, 311 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how much I could share, but it 312 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: was it is nothing like previous paradise absolutely not like 313 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: it's It really just shows like how much your mental 314 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: health can be, like so much better when you can 315 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: do your hair and your makeup. 316 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: Not in humanity. It really brings. 317 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: The different it's like or just to be able to 318 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 4: have somewhere to escape to to like take a breath 319 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: and like pull down. 320 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 3: It was so much better. 321 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: You had just a bed to sleep in that you 322 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: didn't have to step outside your bed and there was 323 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: sand on the ground. Or you shower and you feel clean, 324 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: like truly it was like little things like that, like 325 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: you actually can like feel clean and refreshed, and then 326 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: you just feel more like you're better self. Like I 327 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: didn't shower without I showered like three times a day 328 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: just to cool off, and then you would step outside 329 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 4: the shower and their sand like on the floor. 330 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, we just saw I just 331 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: saw a clip. We just saw a clip of each other, 332 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, my face is so fucking oily. 333 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: It looks like I haven't seen a shower. Like I 334 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: got engaged. I got engaged. I wasn't even matching, like 335 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: nothing matched. Like I was like I we the mirrors. 336 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: You couldn't even really see yourself because they were always folded. 337 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: There was no mirrors. 338 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 4: I used like the small compact like thing in my 339 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: like eye shadow palate, like just see and like just 340 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: sitting there trying not to like I didn't do my 341 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: hair previous paradise, I couldn't do my makeup like it was. 342 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just love life like that. 343 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: I'm like, I need to actually take it second to 344 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 4: take care of myself this time because last time people 345 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 4: saw me, I was like a frat. 346 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: Well, you also would just feel sexier to to like 347 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: go out and flirt with boys when you're like I 348 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: feel cute. 349 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, you could self tan and not start sweating 350 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 4: off like I was like actually able to do my 351 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: self tan routine like it was amazing. 352 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: It was so much better. 353 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: It was like during the wedding episode of Marine kind 354 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: of getting married, like I had self tanner sitting like 355 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: on me like fresh because I'm like, I'm pale right 356 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 4: now and I can't do anything about it. 357 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: And it was almost in the sun, Like I don't 358 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: really get that tan on Paradise because I don't. 359 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't sun, but I wouldn't be able 360 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 4: to because it's just too hot. But also the weather 361 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: in Coastrica was different, like I think because it rained 362 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 4: more that there was so much more of a cool 363 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 4: breeze than like ours, and we high no rain, so 364 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 4: it was like just constantly like fought and humid the 365 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 4: entire time, like. 366 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 3: There was no breeze. 367 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 4: So there's like you're consistent breeze and I kind of 368 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: love doing it rains because then we could go inside and. 369 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: You're an inside girl, you really are. 370 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 4: I'm an outside girl in the right positions, Like I'm 371 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 4: outside all the time in San Diego because it's like 372 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 4: six or seven right now. 373 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: Nice but it's. 374 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, the summer here is unreal, but yeah, no 375 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: anywhere else, Yeah, I'm inside. 376 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 3: I prefer the indoors no more. 377 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: Evy, we see that the cast is obviously dropped. We know, 378 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: you know, we don't know who's coming, but we know 379 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 2: who's down there. Day one was there anyone that you 380 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: were nervous or excited to see. 381 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 4: I didn't know anybody like going, and I didn't know 382 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 4: who was going. I didn't know who could potentially be there, 383 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 4: So I guess I was just nervous because like, I 384 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 4: didn't know what to expect, but there wasn't I really 385 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 4: didn't know anyone that was going to be there, or 386 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 4: one they would be there anything. 387 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: But when you saw them, did you know who they? 388 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: Like? 389 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: Some of them were like that first day, like did 390 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: you I. 391 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 4: Knew who Jonathan Wise because I've seen him in San Diego, 392 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: didn't know Jeremy, didn't know Spencer, Like I had no 393 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 4: idea whose people were. 394 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: How about the Goldens? Did you Did you have any 395 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: clue who any of them would be? 396 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 4: So weirdly enough, the weekend before was Stagecoach. I like, 397 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: finished Stage Coach and gone on a plane. I met 398 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: Keith in the middle of Tea Payne like front row pain. 399 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 4: That was like wait what and then he's like, I'm 400 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 4: going too, and I was like, wait, this is so funny. 401 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 4: You're so cool, and like I can't wait to be 402 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: on the beach with you. 403 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: We love Keith, But that's it. I didn't know anyone else. 404 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: Were you more excited about that or were you kind 405 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 2: of like, oh, I wish I had like one girl 406 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: here that I could. 407 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: Well I did, I had Jeff, I had Jeff Edwards, 408 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: but other I mean, honestly, no, I think it really 409 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 4: ended up affecting how we all moved in Paradise, like 410 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 4: having you know, that like underlying friendship and like knowing 411 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 4: what everyone was who they wanted, because then nobody wanted 412 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 4: to like act for themselves in a way. So I 413 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: loved that every friendship was going to start off fresh 414 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: and I can pretty much become fronts with anybody, especially girlies. 415 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 4: So I figured everyone is going to be someone that 416 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 4: I became friends with in the moment. 417 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: What you got, you got something? 418 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got something. 419 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: I got something too, So. 420 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: All right, in terms of a relationship, what were you 421 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: looking for? 422 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: God damn it, that was literally that was that was 423 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: where I was. I was going to say, qualities, Okay, 424 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: well wow, same same, same. 425 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 4: Same graveling. I was like, really just looking for an 426 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 4: adult somebody that was like Keith, listen, they might be 427 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 4: of age, but you don't know, they could still just 428 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: be band children. 429 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: But that's true. 430 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 4: I really just wanted somebody that has lived enough life 431 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 4: I think, to be able to be like a good 432 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 4: supportive partner and like take life seriously with me. Someone 433 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: I could like trust what's going to be there for 434 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: me through the ups and downs, and mostly just qualities 435 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: of compassion and kindness to everybody, and like truly like authentic, 436 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 4: like who they are, who they say they are. There's 437 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 4: no like people pleasing, there's no like I want to 438 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 4: be this way, to be that way, like just be 439 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 4: yourself and have fun. Obviously somebody that can laugh with me, 440 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 4: but mostly somebody that at least was like above the 441 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 4: age of thirty, because usually they're testosterones down a little bit, 442 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 4: so they're a little tired. 443 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: Because yeah, that's true. 444 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: I would not want to like go out every weekend 445 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: like take you know, just has their priorities intact and 446 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 4: nothing to say, like I'm not like throwing shade. It's 447 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 4: just like I think I've learned through my relationships that 448 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: I that's where I'm at and like that's how I 449 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 4: value my life and my priorities. And it's so much 450 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 4: better when your person matches that because then you're not 451 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 4: like conflicting with each other on what how you want to. 452 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: Do, like to get vend your Saturday, right. 453 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 4: So I really just wanted that. And then someone that 454 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 4: thinks so funny it's about. 455 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: It, was there anyone that was there? Anyone that you 456 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: were worried about potentially being there that you were like, 457 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: I really hope I don't see this person on the 458 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: beach guys anyway, like like did you? Yeah, who were you? 459 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: Who were you beefing with on your on your season 460 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: of Paradise. 461 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: I think it's just well, Olivia didn't really, it. 462 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 4: Wasn't very I just like I didn't want anything or 463 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: anyone that was there to create some like I guess 464 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 4: just like chaos and drama because when that happens, it 465 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: really takes away from building a relationship with like your 466 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: potential partner. So I just didn't want anyone that could 467 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: potentially do that. I don't know if that would have 468 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: been her m, but there's still not worry if any 469 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: of that. I called John Henry the moment I got 470 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: my call, so I was like, are you gonna be 471 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: on this page with me? I need to know yeah, 472 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 4: And he told me he couldn't because of work and stuff, 473 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 4: and then we caught up so we're in a good place. 474 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: But even if he was, it would have been fine. 475 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 4: I was like, you should like this, you know whatever 476 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 4: we'll see, but uh. 477 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't. 478 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: I think that I have a little bit more confidence 479 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: in how I handle things now where I could weather 480 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: a lot more than I could before. 481 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, going into this season, did you have any like, 482 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: like I know you said you feel like you're going 483 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 2: to handle thing blood differently this time. Did you have 484 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: like any grounding techniques or specific things that you were 485 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: like bringing in with you and your their meditations? 486 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: Well, I meditate. I meditate. 487 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: I was journaling every day. 488 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: I did not do that last time, just to you know, 489 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: you can get lost track of time. Day's London to 490 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 4: each other and just like keeping every day like like 491 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: I had to like go back and read where my 492 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 4: thoughts are at. I checked in with the therapists like 493 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 4: almost every three days while on set, just to ground myself, 494 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: talk about how I'm feeling, make sure that everything seems 495 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 4: like okay, some eft's happening online, your spots. Whenever you're 496 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: feeling stressed, like you hit that and it's like supposed 497 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 4: to colm down your nervous system. 498 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: Beta blockers are really great. 499 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 4: It was taking that a few times just like you know, 500 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, I just but also like not taking 501 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 4: it too seriously, like just having fun and like understanding 502 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: that this is it's I took it so seriously before. 503 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: And I think just like the new mindset can be 504 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 3: new wonders for what can happen. 505 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: Were you open to an engagement this time or were 506 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: you more just like I'm gonna take my time see 507 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: where this goes, and I kind of want to just 508 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: like leave in a relationship. 509 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: I did not go in saying I was going to 510 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 3: leave engage that is it. I didn't. I definitely was 511 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: not going in and say I was going to be 512 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 3: engaged to any capacity. 513 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: Well, I will say like my my second time around, 514 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: I was more prepared to have the core the right 515 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: conversations with Serena as far as just like how how 516 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: actually do we see this working after this showing and 517 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: did you did you do that? Like are were you 518 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: open to are you open to moving? 519 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: If that's the case, If am I open to one? 520 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: Like if you meet someone, are you open to potentially moving? 521 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 4: Like oh yeah, I was asking I knew way more 522 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 4: about or I yeah, I went in with a lot 523 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 4: more awareness on like what I needed to ask and 524 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: things I needed to like assess, and how I needed 525 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 4: to see how people handled situations than I did in 526 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 4: the past, just from but you can only really do 527 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: that if you've already lived in and so that's pretty 528 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 4: much how I approached it. So it wasn't just like 529 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: blindly like oh, you're cute and like you're funny, and 530 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 4: like this is gonna be great, we'll see what happens. 531 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: Like No, it was very very like thought out without 532 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: giving too much away obviously, how do you feel like 533 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: this experience on Bachelom Paradise for you was different from 534 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: your first experience? 535 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: I mean was a laundry list. 536 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 4: There's like oh, from the environment, from the people, from 537 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 4: like how I showed up, from just every like the 538 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 4: the beach, the creative, like the it was just fun 539 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 4: like it was I had a lot of good I 540 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 4: had a really good time. I would say, we don't 541 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 4: want to give everything away. It definitely came still with 542 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: ups and downs, like it's still you know, an environment 543 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 4: where you're putting yourself out there to potentially be heard, 544 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: and like you don't know how it's gonna end. And 545 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 4: but that's with everything, that's with life, So I just 546 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 4: approached it from that perspective, but it was just so 547 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 4: much more like and I. 548 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 3: Who knows, So I'm delusional, Like I think I said that. 549 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: You're freaking out already. You're freaking out already. 550 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: Like you know what, I'm freaking out because I'm saying 551 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 4: it's positive, and like I did that before and it 552 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: was not so scared enough. 553 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: I get that, but you know, I want it to 554 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: air and then be like, wait, this is what went down, 555 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: this is how it came across. 556 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: You know, wh I rather live life the rose colored glasses. 557 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: I don't care. I love being delusional. It's not me 558 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: be very far. 559 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: So I think I think it's gonna go I mean, 560 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: if I were to guess, I think it's gonna go 561 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: good for you. But like then again, like I've been wrong, 562 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: so I don't know. 563 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 4: If it all comes down to like how it's I mean, 564 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: I think I also like was not I remember so 565 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: much of it, maybe just because I was journaling as 566 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 4: often as I was, but like before I remember like 567 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: how it wasn't just like Boston the sauce I think I. 568 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: Was or you like I know what's going on present? 569 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: How was having the Golden Sale there? 570 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 4: Oh? 571 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 3: It was so fun. 572 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 4: It was a great, great choice, Like good job Produceriously, 573 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: it was incredible. 574 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: They were they just like when I guess when you're 575 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: at that age, you just don't care. So it was 576 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: like they're not. 577 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 4: Worried about Instagram followers or how they're like gonna look 578 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 4: for their brand. Like they're just actually like so authentic 579 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 4: and who they are. And they gave us a lot 580 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 4: of insight to just like life, and I got to 581 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: learn about so many of their different stories and things 582 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 4: that they've experienced, and I feel like that put into 583 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 4: perspective like where we're all at now and kind of 584 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 4: just take things a little less like intensely. 585 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: But they were just so fun. They were hilarious. They 586 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: did not care. They had a great time. They made 587 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: us loose enough. 588 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: Actually, how was how was having Hannah Brown there? 589 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: It was really fun too. She was like kind of 590 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 3: like a girly. 591 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: She was there mostly during Rose ceremony nights and stuff 592 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: and just kind of someone to like tell the tea 593 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 4: too and see how she experienced stuff. It was also 594 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: for me like she's lived a lot of she's done 595 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: the show in different ways and been part of it, 596 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: so I felt like I could connect with her in 597 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: that way and understand like if I'm having a if 598 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: I'm on the verge of having a cash out, like 599 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: you know, it's this valid to be brought back down 600 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 4: to earth and she was there for that. 601 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: If after watching this current season, what do you want 602 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: the viewers to learn about who you are as a person? 603 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. That's scary. I guess just like. 604 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: That I am human, Like we're just I'm a very 605 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: like normal girl living a very normal life. And you 606 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 4: can also see where like whatever happens in your life 607 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 4: like stages and seasons does not have to define you 608 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: in any carasting like you have that autonomy to change 609 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 4: how you go through life. And I think that that's 610 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: going to be shown. And that's also just something I've 611 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: kind of done my entire life. So maybe just that 612 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 4: and like that I'm just like a normal girly and 613 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: like live more delusional. It's a lot easier that way. 614 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: This is true yourself, like like just I'm I'm accidentally 615 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 4: authentic to a bon't and nobody should ever be ashamed 616 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: of that, like own it. 617 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: If you could tease this upcoming season of Paradise. 618 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: In a few words, Oh gosh, what would you do? 619 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: What would you say? 620 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: Oh? It is different, fun and more aesthetically pleasing. I 621 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: would say, for sure, Yeah. 622 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 1: It looks that way. 623 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 4: Yew. 624 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: The teasers are looking really good. 625 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 3: It's much more aesthetically even. 626 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: Like the headshot, everything is elevated and I'm. 627 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: Actually not for that part. 628 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: Joe's jealous. 629 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 4: I knew there was going to be someone that like 630 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 4: wanted us to still look like like a little wrap 631 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 4: on the beach, like they're like fise like of. 632 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: Them like dying and like, no, no, this was really good. 633 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: Never to go back. No, I'm excited to see it. 634 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: Well, Kat, we are really looking forward to watching you 635 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: on this upcoming season of Paradise. We wish you the best. 636 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll hear from you again. Thank you so 637 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: much for hopping on. Thank you fun, and to all 638 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: our listeners, thank you for tuning in the bet You're 639 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast. 640 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: We have new exclusive interviews coming every single week as 641 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: we tea up for the new season of Bachelor Paradise 642 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: airing very soon. Thanks for listening. 643 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: Bye