1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Rick Crow website has the first Animore up the side 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: by forty thirty forty ten five touchdown Joston. There is 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: no off season for your Houston Texans game d is 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: every day. No, it's Texans all Lexus, Hello Texans, and 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: welcome to the program. Great to have you on. Mark 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Vandama or John Harris with you joy tonight because it's 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Thursday and it's a regular thing. It's the thing. The 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 1: general from the Houston Chronicle, John McClain, joining us all 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: fired up for the Final four with his Baylor Bears 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: in the mix for a national championship possibility. In general, 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: A get a lot of heat from Cougar fans this week. 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: How do you feel about the situation in Indie? I 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: just wrote a column that I sent into our website, 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: Texas SportsNation dot com about my memories of growing up 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: in Waco when Baylor played Houston and goes back to 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: the early sixties when I was eleven years old, and 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: you have h back then independent under Guy Lewis. They 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: played in Jefferson Field House and they beat Baylor three 19 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: years in a row by four points, and they were 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: a lot better than Baylor was. And then they started 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: again in seventy two seventy three, and in that year, 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: it's so funny to me because Baylor tallest player was 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: six six. You have h had six guys at least 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: sixty eight and they had six ten six ten, six 25 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: nine and starting lineup, and they still only beat Baylor 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: by four. But that was the first time I came 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: to Halfeis Pavilion, and I came with some friends and 28 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: had heard about it for so long, and when we 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: walked in there, it was a toaz Ma Hall of 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: College Basketball. It was beautiful. Now, of course to Tillman 31 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: for Tita Center has replaced it. But you know, I've 32 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: got so many friends who went to you of H 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: or love you have aged one of the most devoted 34 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: you have h fans have ever known, as Jones Shaddock, 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: her husband, Harry, one of the greatest sports writers in 36 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: our history. Harry didn't go to you of H but 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: he was you of H by marriage. And I would 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: think how happy Harry would be died last year and 39 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: he would be so excited to watch him in the 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Final four, because you know they celebrated and suffered during 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: the five slam Agama are three years in a row. 42 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: Was some of the greatest players in history and they 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: didn't win it. So if Baylor does not beat you 44 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: of h I hope you have AG beats Gonzaga and 45 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: wins the national championship. That'd be great for Histan, be 46 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: great for Texas basketball, and so I as you can imagine, 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: I pumped, and good luck to all the Cougar fans 48 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: out there. A general, the obviously people talk about, oh 49 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: this is this is a football State's a football state, 50 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: Texas a football state? What is it? Can you capsuleately 51 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: what it means for Baylor to be in the Final 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: four for the first time since an eighteen fifty I remember, 53 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: I can't remember what coach it was said that if 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: he could only keep the best basketball players from Houston, 55 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: then he would beat any team in the country because 56 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: there's so many great basketball players here. Well, you don't 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: see basketbay basketball players from Wake though. Baylor and Scott truth. 58 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: Scott Drew has done the greatest transformation of any college 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: coach in the history, and I don't know how anyone 60 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: could dispute that, and he's finally getting a lot of 61 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: credit for it. But the last time Baylor was in 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: the Final four, wouldn't qual a final four. There was 63 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: only eight teams in the tournaments, so if you won 64 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: a game, you were among the final four. And I 65 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: wasn't even born, that's how long it's been. And so 66 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: it would mean a lot if Baylor one or you 67 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: of age is great for the state of Texas. I mean, 68 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people around the country and 69 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: I've been asked a couple of the national shows. I do, well, 70 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: what's up with them down there playing basketball in a 71 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: football state? And I want to say, nit, went, you're 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: not paying much attention. I'll tell you. Another thing drives 73 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: me crazy is when I hear or read these income 74 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: poops call the Southwest Conference the Southwestern Conference. No, it's 75 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: the Southwestern Athletic Conference or TSU plays. It's not the 76 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: old Southwest Conference where Baylor, Houston, and Arkansas played and 77 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: who all made the last round. So I am plumped 78 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: about it. It would be great for Baylor to win 79 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: a championship in basketball, especially how far they come, but 80 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: it'd be great for you of Ah and Kelvin Sampson. 81 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: And I was looking up those Baylor games that I 82 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: remember from sixty three in four seasons. In the next 83 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: three seasons has god Lewis's seventh season at the University 84 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: of Houston, and I'm still just angry as can be 85 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: that it took the morons who vote on the on 86 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: the Basketball Hall of Fame so long to put Guy 87 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Lewis in there. Well, you bring up so much there 88 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: and it reminds me of me hosting an early Touchdown 89 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: club event early for me and my time in Houston 90 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: and the early ohs. And I accidentally called at the 91 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: Southwestern Conference of those yeah, yeah, and I knew it. 92 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I knew it. It was just one of those slips 93 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: of the tongue more than the lack of knowledge. But 94 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: it was like calling the Pope Baptist in Vatican City, 95 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: like you just don't do that around here. And I 96 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: learned the hard way. I also said former Aggie on 97 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: the air once early on, and David Barron wrote about it, 98 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: because you know, I'm the outsider and I said former 99 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: Aggie and I didn't know, and now I know. And 100 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: also I don't call them the Texas a and m 101 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Aggie's ever, It's the Texas Aggie's And that's how you 102 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: say it, right general, Well, I've called them farmer aggies 103 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: a lot, and I've called them Texas A and M 104 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: Aggies because it entertains so many of them. Now I'll 105 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: be there. I just spent two and a half hours 106 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: to day on a zoom with A and M journalism 107 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: students because they're nice enough to include me in a 108 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: lot of those programs. But some of my friends who 109 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: went they and them, I love to say farmer aggies. 110 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: They don't say a word anymore because they know I'm 111 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: doing it just to get their goat. When I first 112 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: started doing regular radio here in late seventies, and I 113 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: would be on with Jerry Trupiano on KTRH, I love 114 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: to get the aggues, the long arms, and he told 115 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: me one time, he said, you know, he said, I 116 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: know what you're doing. But other than the team's here, 117 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: those are our biggest listeners. So if you don't have 118 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: to go out of your way to infuriate them so much, 119 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: I would appreciate it, and it means you'd be able 120 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: to stay on the radio and have a longer career. Hey, gent, 121 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 1: I want to stay in history here for second, Johnny, 122 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: I want to stay out history here for a moment. 123 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: Because you bring up watching Baylor and U Age in 124 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: the sixties playing basketball. And people have to understand if 125 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: the Rockets didn't even move to Houston until nineteen seventy one, 126 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: So the Rockets were actually the San Diego Rockets, which 127 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: is weird because the nickname fits here perfectly. But that 128 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: was the big time basketball and big time football Southwest 129 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: Conference in the fifties, pre Oilers and AFL team in 130 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty and that was it. Rice was the big 131 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: show in town. So it's nice to have the Southwest 132 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Conference Reunion of sorts to remind people that this was 133 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: the thing basketball and football back in the day. Well, 134 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: let me tell you a little piece of history. When 135 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: the Rockets came here, they had trouble selling tickets and 136 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: they had to play some home games in Waco and 137 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: San Antonio. And I remember nineteen seventy one when the 138 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Lakers won thirty three games in a row and went 139 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: on to win a championship with Well Chamberlain and Jerry 140 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: West and Gilga Bridge and Appe Harriston, And I say, 141 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: I can't remember if Elgin Baylor was still there at 142 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: the end of his career. Okay, he was not, And 143 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: so they played at the heart of Texas Collins tam 144 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: which was a dump and a half and they played 145 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: the Rockets with Elvin Hayes the Big and the Bigge 146 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: led the Rockets to a victory at home in Waco 147 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: over the Lakers, and I was there, Wow, Yeah, Elgin Baylor. 148 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: What's the one thing? Elgin Baylor played all those years 149 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: in LA and they went up against the Lakers so 150 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: many times, but he never won. And then I think 151 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: he either retired at the seventy or seventy one, and 152 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: then the Lakers won it the next year when Jerry 153 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Weston Will got that thing done with kill Goodrid Gooders. Generally, 154 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned you're on with Texas A and M journalists. 155 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm so curious what what's the thing that they want 156 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: to know from you the most? Like, what's the is 157 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: there a piece of advice? Is a question? What did 158 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: they ask you the most about when you're doing those 159 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: talks with young journalists. Well, I love talking to college 160 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: students because they're all eager to get out in the 161 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: real world. And the first and today we did something 162 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: I've not done before. It was kind of like speed 163 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: dating and we would be in a room and we 164 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: would answer questions and talk for fifteen minutes. Then they 165 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: would put a thing up there, You'll leave the room 166 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: in one minute. And so sometimes right in the middle 167 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: of an answer, boom, here would come another room where 168 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: you're wrong with other students, and the one of the 169 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: thing they wanted to know if they were in school, 170 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: how to get an internship, and if they were about 171 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: to graduate, how to get their foot in the door 172 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: in a job, and then sometime wanting to know about 173 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: writing and reporting and interviewing. And it's always fascinating to 174 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: me to talk to students at that age because there 175 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm not starting over unless I knew then 176 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: what I knew now, and so I'm always eager to 177 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: help anyway I can. And I've and I've liked doing 178 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: that A and M the last few years and actually 179 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: enjoyed doing it because I've been doing more with A 180 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: and M than I ever did with Baylor, because the 181 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: Aggies are smart enough to invite me, and Baylor isn't. 182 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: General John McClain joining us on Texans Radio here, all right, 183 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: So let's dig in a little bit here, General, as 184 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: we are four weeks away from the NFL draft, and 185 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: of course the Texans won't pick until Friday night, unless 186 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: there's something else brewing that we don't know about. What 187 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: do you think of the way Nick Cassario is going 188 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: to handle the picks they have to work with currently. 189 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: Based on what we've seen so far with Casserio and 190 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: all the moves that he's made, I'm guessing he's not 191 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: gonna when he's going into draft right now with eight picks, 192 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: and he has changed, He's moved some of those around 193 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: in deals and law and changed a couple, like he 194 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: had two fours and he's got one four. But I'm 195 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: guessing that he's going to do some more and they 196 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: will not just be the eight picks as they stand today. 197 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: What I'm really eager to see I figure with the 198 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: third round pick. You know, maybe he trades out of 199 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: the third round of the fourth round for two more picks, 200 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: But I don't see him trading up because he doesn't 201 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: have enough to offer. And of course we're not including 202 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: any kind of Watsondale because I don't think Sean to 203 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: be traded before the draft. But if what if in 204 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: the third round there were a quarterback there that he liked. 205 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: In the second round, remember when we all thought justin 206 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: Reid was going in the second round, and there were 207 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: some mock drafts to have going in the first round, 208 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: and when he was available, it took Brian Gaine like 209 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: two seconds to make that pick and it turned out 210 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: to be a great pick. And so what if there's 211 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: a quarterback, like say the kid at Stanford. Is it 212 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: Davis Mills Mills and or Kellen Man whose stock seems 213 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: to be going up or Kyle Trash? What if Cassario 214 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: in his personnel department have a second round grade on 215 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback, would they take a quarterback there or would 216 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: they feel a need in the defensive line or in 217 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: the secondary specifically corner. I just feel right now that 218 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: the defensive line and corner he's going to take the 219 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: highest one on his board. But it's the first time 220 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: Cassario has been over a draft. Now he's getting some criticism, 221 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: as is Bell Belichick because yesterday Robert Kraft talked about 222 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: how bad they've drafted. And even though Nick was ahead 223 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: of personnel, we all know Belichick was in charge of everything. 224 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: So I look for him to make more moves. I 225 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: think he'll I'm guessing he'll sign quite a few undrafted 226 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: free agents as he continues to churn the roster and 227 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: I can't. I know the off season programs about to 228 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: start with OTAs and conditioning, and they haven't given them 229 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: all the protocols yet and I don't know if we'll 230 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: be able to go over there. But if we can't, 231 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: I can't wait for training camp because man, it's kind 232 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: of be confusing trying to keep up with all these 233 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: new players, no doubt. General sitting at number sixty seven. 234 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: By the way, if you go to Houston Texans dot 235 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: com or go to our Twitter feed at Houston Texans, 236 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: you can see I did a two round plus mock. 237 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: I did one through sixty six, so it's two for one. 238 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,119 Speaker 1: You get a two round mock plus. I then examined 239 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: each position available of players that I still have remaining 240 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: from the Harris one hundred, so everybody out there can 241 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: go check that out. So General, I ask you this. 242 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: You brought a quarterback. Okay, Now let me ask you, Okay, 243 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: who do you have? I'm taken where the sixty seven? Okay? 244 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Well that's what I That's where I didn't make a 245 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: pick for them. I just put you had said, here 246 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: are your options at every single position, and now I 247 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: narrowed it. I narrowed it down, like, these are the 248 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: positions I don't think they'll take somebody. What do you 249 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: think general would be the most surprising position they address 250 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: at sixty seven? What would be the most surprising position 251 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: least in most surprising positions they address at number sixty 252 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: seven in your opinion. So, as we're talking about mob drafts, 253 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: the first one that Aaron Wilson and I have done 254 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: on a chronicles posted on Texas Sports Nation, and we'll 255 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: run someday this week or Sunday, I'm not sure, but 256 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: we'll be doing them, having them posted every Thursday from 257 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: now on. And we picked the first round. Then we 258 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: picked the Texans first pick. And my pick on sixty 259 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: seven is people may say, well, he's not going to 260 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: be there, and they say, yeah, well Justin Reid wasn't 261 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: gonna be there either. Is Tyson Campbell? A cornerback from Georgia. 262 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: When I looked at the corners, I'm not looking at 263 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: a slot corner. I got John Ray, I got Grade. 264 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: They need another outside corner, So that's who I took. 265 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: I think the position that would surprise me the most 266 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: is running back, because you don't need to take a 267 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: running back in the third round anymore. And they've got 268 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: David Johnson back. They signed Mark Ingram, they signed Philip Lindsay. 269 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: Those guys have six to one thousand yard seasons together. 270 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: Lindsay and Ingram had thousand yards seasons and two nineteen. 271 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Lindsay was curtailed by toe injury last season. He's still 272 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: twenty six years old. So I'd be shocked if Sarrio 273 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: took a running back in the third round, more shocked 274 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: than I would be a quarterback, because you know, if 275 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: Watson's traded or if he all is out, they're going 276 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: to need a quarterback to besides to Rod Taylor and 277 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: Ryan Finley. So and then the one I think would 278 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: be the most was the two I mentioned that would 279 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: be the most likely would be defensive line in cornerback. 280 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: If the Texas walk out of there, John, if the 281 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Texans walk out of there with Tyson Cambell, sorry, Mark, 282 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: that will be a home run. That's a home run. 283 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: Pick I got him in the mid fifties, My Harris 284 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: one hundred, but I don't think he gets to sixty seven. 285 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: But if he does, same thing's gonna happen. Nick Assaria's 286 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: gonna sprint that card up there, because that guy's gonna 287 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: be a starter for ten years in the league. He's 288 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: a good player whoa There's a lot of good a 289 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: lot of good corners with a lot of depth, and 290 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: that's why I'm open. He'll fall, Okay, John Texans free agents. 291 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: You brought up the running backs. Give me three or 292 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: four names that you're most excited about of the crop 293 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: that they have so far through free agency. Again, we 294 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: talk about trades two since they added Yeah, trades are yeah, acquisitions, 295 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: Let's just call them acquisitions and put the umbrella over 296 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: all the new guys. Well, I mentioned the two running 297 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: backs before, but Shack Lawson, who's going to move back 298 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: to his natural possession of defensive end in a four 299 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: to three. He's good against the run, and if he 300 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: had four sacks here last year, he'd been tied for 301 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: a second behind J. J. Watt, and I expect to 302 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: get more from him. Desmond King a slot corner who 303 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: has played well during his career with the Chargers and 304 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: the Titans. That's another reason I had a big Tyson 305 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Campbell because he plays outside. Kevin pare Lewis started eleven 306 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: games and outside linebacker last year for Washington, and Washington 307 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: won the division and they had a good they had 308 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: a good defense. That's another one. You know, justin Brett 309 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: and the center is coming off knee injury. It looks 310 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: like he's just been gift wrapped the center job. They 311 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: got to have depth, and and Andre Roberts given them 312 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: as return guy they've had in a long time. That's 313 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: got to be exciting because their return game doesn't impact 314 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: the offense, but it should this year and I'm pumped 315 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: about that. And one more trade. I can't wait to 316 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: see where Marcus Kennon place if new line coach James 317 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: camp And wants to get his best five linemen on 318 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: the field and Cannon is one. Does he play him 319 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: at guard where he did once before in his career 320 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: and didn't play well and moved to right tackle. Couldn't 321 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: they move Titus Howard to guard? Remember when they drafted 322 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: Titus and when they brought him in for that first camp, 323 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: they tried him at guard and tackle. So Kennon, well 324 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: rested after opting out last season, sounded great on the 325 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: interview this week, Aaron Wilson did a story on him, 326 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: and so I'm eager to see how Campin fits in, 327 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon, who's got three Super Bowl rings, John the 328 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: Micki Sario through free agency to this point, Alex Ericsson, 329 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: Chris Conley, Dante Moncrief, Andre Roberts. I know I'm missing receivers. 330 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: I think there were fighting a kind of five, maybe 331 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: six if I miscounted. I was a little surprised by that. 332 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: Not that I didn't think they would add somebody through 333 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: free agency. I just think didn't think they would add 334 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: that many through free agency. Was that surprising at you? 335 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: To you at all? The fact that that many were 336 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: added through free agency at the wide receiver position. If 337 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: they played tomorrow they went with three white outs. We 338 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: know Brandon Cooks would be in there. We know Randall 339 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: Cobb would be in there, and I'm guessing Kiki Kid 340 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: he would be in there. And because Kiki played so 341 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: well at the end the last season, now Watson played 342 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: great and it didn't matter who they put out there. 343 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: He made them look good. And I don't count Andre 344 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: Roberts because he's a return guy, not a receiver. And 345 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Isaiah Coulter, who didn't do the squad as a rookie, 346 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: and we didn't expect him to because he didn't have 347 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: an all season program and he came from Rhode Island 348 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: and has so much to learn. Can't wait to see 349 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: how he is in his second year when most players 350 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: make their biggest jump. But one that people, Yeah, I 351 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: think people ought to think and get kind of excited 352 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: about Chris Connley. Chris Connley at forty catches in a 353 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: role last year with the Jaguars in which they played 354 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: multiple receivers. He's got a good size. When he came 355 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: out of college, he ran in the four threes and 356 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure now he's probably slowed down and he's running 357 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: into four fours. So I'm eager to see how he's 358 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: going to help this team. Think about all these free agents, 359 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: you know a lot of them aren't going to make 360 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster this time last year. More 361 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: will be gone, but some of them will have earned 362 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: contract extensions. The guys have signed one year contracts, and 363 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: that's Chris Connley. He signed a one year contract, so 364 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm pumped to see how he fits in as well. 365 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: John McLean joining us, John, I haven't heard your reaction. 366 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: I apologize, but seventeen games, what do you think how 367 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: do you feel What are your feelings general? Well, we 368 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: knew it was coming. I mean, it was just a 369 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: big yawn. And I'm reading some things about what this 370 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 1: does to Hall of Fame statistics and all that. My 371 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: first training camp with the Oilers in seventy seven, they 372 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: played fourteen games and they had six preseason games, and 373 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: training camp was two months long. And then when I 374 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: went to sixteen next year, and everybody's like, oh my god, 375 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: all the records are going to be out the window. 376 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: It's not going to be fair to the players who've 377 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: made the game as great as it is. The people 378 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: adjusted as they will now, it's not going to take 379 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: as long to add an eighteen game as it took 380 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: to add seventeen because the more regular season games fewer 381 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: preseason games, the more that it counts, the more money 382 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: the owners make, and then the more that the players make. 383 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: So it's coming. It's not a matter of if, but when. Now. 384 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: The only reason I care about the Carolina Panthers is 385 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: because their head coach was Matt Rule, and he did 386 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: a great job at Baylor. I was hoping to be 387 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: a rival like the Cowboys, you know, have the Cowboys 388 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: and the Texans play every year to the extra game. 389 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: But I guess they don't do that because it would 390 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: be unfair to some teams that don't have a natural level. 391 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: I came up. I came up with matchups. I'm gonna 392 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: hit both of y'all with at some point, maybe on there, 393 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: maybe off the air. I came up with sixteen matchups. 394 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: They're not perfect, but that could have been the seventeenth game, 395 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: and they're not natural. They're not you know, I've got 396 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: a Chiefs Cardinals matchup. That one kind to shoehorning that 397 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: one in. But it came up with some really good ones. 398 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: I think the NFL would have been I don't know. 399 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: I think they would have been better off going that way. 400 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: But either way, general, you follow this thing with the 401 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: Chargers and what's going on with Spanners. I am, and 402 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: I was some multi I was some multi billionaire would 403 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: pop up and when they have to sell the team 404 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: by what was it twenty four and offer multiple billion 405 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: dollars and say, hey, I'll build your new stadium in 406 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: San Diego. We're going back to San Diego because they're 407 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: to be a disaster at the new stadium because nobody 408 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: cares about him, and you can't make an owner sell 409 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: a team. So if Dean Spanners didn't want to sell 410 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: it now to pay off three hundred and fifty eight 411 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: million in debt, he's not going to do it. And 412 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: if he waits three more years or whatever it is, 413 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: it'll just go up by another billion. John McClain, what 414 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: do you have going out of the chronicle for us? 415 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: Our first mark draft is on a chronicle. I just 416 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: sent in that column about my memories of Baylor and 417 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: you have, ah, I've got a Sunday story about Position Battles. 418 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: I have one up there today about the priority of 419 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: trying to improve the run with the addition of Philip 420 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: Lindsay mark Ingram, and we've got everything you want to 421 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: know about Deshaun Watson had a really good story. David Baron. 422 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: Do you guys remember him? He used to write for US. 423 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: David Baron called a University of Houston a lab Jim 424 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: Nance to see what he thought about the File four 425 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: and how he's going to handle his Cougars playing the 426 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: Bears sick him. That's kind of really interesting for Nance. 427 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness to watch his Alma Modern the Final four, 428 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: My gosh, that's amazing. Thank you very much, John, always 429 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: a pleasure to catch up. And next, all right, coming 430 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: up next, We're gonna have a real big disappointing story 431 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: that broke today, And by disappointing I mean for play 432 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: by play guys and other broadcasters. I'll tell you what 433 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: that is. And also the seventeen game scheduled debates. I'll 434 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: give you a player that has the biggest beef, maybe 435 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: one of maybe the biggest in history about expanding season 436 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: game schedules. And this goes back aways, but I think 437 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna like it. It's coming up next here on 438 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: Texans Radio. 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If Amanda's having dinner our digital 454 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: one of our digital gurus, Amanda. There's an off, Amanda. 455 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: You know Jay overseas them. I'm not gonna go over everybody. 456 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: They don't want their names on the air, Johnny. They 457 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: like to be behindies. We however, no you say no, 458 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: you say my name on the you're gonna you're gonna 459 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: give me credit. Oh yeah, I am not. Well, I'm 460 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: not behind the scenes guy, that's for sure. I wrote 461 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: a story yesterday on Houston Texans dot Com and I 462 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: had a Cassio quote in there about gathering intel on 463 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: college prospects, and I even said, you asked a question 464 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: during the interview. I don't want to mess with that. 465 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: I gotta give Jenny credit. He asked a question. I 466 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: didn't even say anything, and then I had Cassario's words 467 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: By the way, I did a speaking engagement yesterday at 468 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: the Houston Club they had up there, and it was 469 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: fun because it was actual live people in the audience 470 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: and we did it was you know, it wasn't a 471 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: huge group because it's COVID still, like we're still coming 472 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: out of it, but uh, and it was all spread out, 473 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: socially distanced, and it was very into. It was great. 474 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: It was great to see people and just talk football 475 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: and have some fun like that. And I loved it. 476 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: I loved being out with people. You know what I've 477 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: been I think we all have had our share of this. 478 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: Some people are going into work every day and seeing 479 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: a lot of different people. A lot of people haven't 480 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: been out socializing, right, And this was semi socializing because 481 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: it's you know, I'm speaking, but afterwards you're winding it 482 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: down and everything. And I just thought, I'm so not 483 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: used to that anymore, just that random sort of social situation. 484 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: And it was great. It was really fun to be 485 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: out and see people now downtown. I hadn't been downtown much, 486 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: if at all, during COVID, and I know it's better 487 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: than it has been, but it still feels like, oh 488 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: my gosh, you could just like have a block party 489 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: and not stop any traffic because there's just not a 490 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: whole lot of traffic down there. Yeah, so it's a 491 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: different deal. But look, more people are getting vaccinated. We're 492 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: making progress, We're getting out of this thing. And along 493 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: those lines, I want to get to the seventeen game 494 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: schedules some aspects of it. But I brought up this stats. 495 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: How bothered are you about stats being messed up? Since 496 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, We've had this perfect symmetricals sixteen games season. 497 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: And I know it's changed over time as far as 498 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: the divisional breakdown, division games versus how many other teams 499 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: outside of the division and your conference you're playing and 500 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: everything that started when the Texans came into the league, 501 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: when you had perfect symmetry with the four team divisions 502 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: all across the board and everything like that. But you 503 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying here. Now you're going from sixteen 504 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: to seventeen. And I said a player has got maybe 505 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: the biggest beef in history, and I know they're probably several, 506 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: but Jim Brown, Johnny, A lot of people consider him 507 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: the greatest running back of all time. Jim Brown started 508 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: his career playing four twelve game seasons in the league 509 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: right because they went to the fourteen games in sixty 510 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: one when they started competing with the AFL. So well, 511 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: the AFL started competing with the NFL, and the NFL 512 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: felt compelled to have the same number of games as 513 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: the AFL. Brown in a twelve game season, Jim Brown 514 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: had fifteen hundred twenty seven yards in a twelve game year. 515 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: He averaged one twenty seven per game and almost six 516 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: yards per carry. Unbelievable numbers. And then later on in 517 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, Jim Brown fourteen game season rushes for 518 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: eighteen hundred and sixty three yards, I mean two more games, 519 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: and where is he He He averaged one thirty three per 520 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: game in nineteen sixty three. That's incredible production. So that's why, 521 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of people are too young to remember 522 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: when he was so bitter when Frank o'harris was threatening 523 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: to break his all time rushing record because Harris was 524 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: getting the benefit of sixteen games at least for a 525 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: few years, and he thought Harris was a guy who 526 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: ran out of bounds and didn't take on the hard 527 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: contact the way Jim Brown did. I mean Frank o'harris 528 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: was great back, but he wasn't Jim Brown. So you 529 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: kind of get it from that standpoint and the bitterness 530 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: of hey, you give me sixteen game seasons, because it's 531 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: really more about, you know, the games you have per 532 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: year than the amount of years you can play. I mean, 533 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: the amount of years you can play obviously helps, but 534 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: if you have sixteen game seasons, you can put up 535 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: some dynamic numbers if you could stay healthy like him. 536 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: It's I did obviously Walter Payton, who I guess was 537 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: the first guy to break Brown's record, but Evan Smith 538 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: has it now they're in football. I'll be honest, mark 539 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: the numbers. I don't I don't know. I don't care 540 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: about the numbers too often. I try to look at 541 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, yards per carry, you know, per season, or 542 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: a per game, um, those kind of things, because those 543 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: can end up being compatible. You look at what Jim 544 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: Brown did per game, You look at what Emma Smith 545 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 1: did per game, Barry Sanders per game. You look at 546 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: it from that perspective as opposed to totals that that 547 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: to me makes more more sense because we have had 548 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: changes now, we haven't had changes in you know, sixteen 549 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: games since nineteen seventy eight, but that that seventeenth game, 550 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, somebody's gonna threaten Eric Dickerson's twenty one eighty five. 551 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: I think it is somebody's gonna threaten that. And I 552 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: mean even at sixteen games. Adrian Peterson threatened that, so 553 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna threaten it at seventeen games. But I don't. 554 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't really get worked up about stats. I mean, 555 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: I know the general just mentioned as we were talking 556 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: about it earlier, you know it's gonna mess up the 557 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: people that probably get the most, Um, I don't not 558 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: upset about it, but that are more focused on are 559 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: probably the players themselves. Um, you mentioned it, Jim Brown, Um, 560 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, talked about that, and I think the players 561 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: get upset about it because people use that a lot 562 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: of times as a comparison point. Well, this guy had 563 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: one hundred you know, he had one thousand, two hundred 564 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: thirty six yards and you only had eleven hundred, twenty 565 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: five yards. And it's like, yeah, but I played a 566 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: twelve game season and this guy played in a sixteen 567 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: game season, so you can't really compare it. But that's 568 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: what a lot of people do. They use those well, 569 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: here's the numbers. I just can't look at it from 570 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: an aggurate standpoint. And then I think there are some 571 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: stats that don't tell I don't think they tell a 572 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: good story. Uh, you know, tackles. Tackles is a is 573 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: a great one. Yeah, from that standpoint, I don't think 574 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: tackles tell anything. It doesn't tell you anything, because you 575 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: know what I remember watching in this and now knock 576 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: on Darius Lenard at all. I remember watching the first 577 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: two or three games of Darius Leonard, like you could 578 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: tell he's a good player. But the culture posting he 579 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: had fifteen tackles, and I'm watching the game, going, dude, 580 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: he had seven of them seven yards downfield. Like, so 581 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: to me, tackles, that's one stat that I'm like, okay, 582 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: But there are some that we don't even you know, 583 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: we don't even measure. For the most part, we started 584 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: measuring in them, started measuring them, and they to me 585 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: are more important. Quarterback hits those are huge. For a 586 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: long time, we didn't measure sacks. Was until nineteen eighty 587 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: two that we started measuring sacks and counting it as 588 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 1: a as a true stat. So I don't get two 589 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: worked up in the stats because when people say, and 590 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: you ask me this star the Star Gaming play who's better, 591 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: I hardly ever say, well, this guy had more yards 592 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: than this guy, and I like that guy for that reason. 593 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: I will always give I think this guy's better because 594 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: he did this better, he did this better, he had 595 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: bigger you know, he had bigger games in the playoffs. 596 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: You know. I'll come up with things to me that 597 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: matter not so much the aggregate numbers, because when you 598 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: look up and here's a great one, Frank Gore. Should 599 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: he go in the Hall of Fame? Yes? Or no? See, 600 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming. You see what I mean. 601 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: And I think Frank Or has been a fabulous back 602 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: in his career. I don't think he's a Hall of 603 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: Fame back. I really don't. I didn't think Curtis Martin 604 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: was a Hall of Fame back either. But man, when 605 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: you start putting the numbers in there and you look 606 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: where they are slotted based on the numbers, you're like, well, 607 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: if that guy's in and he's got those numbers, well 608 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: then that guy's got to be in. And I think, Frank, course, 609 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: what third all time rushing? I think, but it's taken 610 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: him you know, nearly, you know, two decades. I mean 611 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: when he got in the league, there wasn't even the Internet, 612 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't think, and then when he's leaving, I mean, 613 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: now you've got social media running rampant. There are certain 614 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: people who if they didn't get voted in when they 615 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: were voted in, might not get in now. And one 616 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: of them is Art Monk right, who played for a 617 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: long time. Yes, I think it was sixteen seasons, and 618 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: he's twentieth on the all time receptions list. Now, he 619 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: was a lot higher for a while. But you know, 620 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: numbers get inflated, right, They definitely get inflated with the 621 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: passing game opens up. Quarterback numbers are ridiculous. We all 622 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: know that. We talk about that kind of thing all 623 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: the time, especially in college, but obviously in the NFL 624 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: with Frank Tarkington leading the way with forty eight thousand 625 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: yards for so long and now I don't know where 626 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: he is on the list. I don't have it in 627 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: front of me, but it's probably like twentieth. So that 628 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: lets you know a little bit right there. I think 629 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: you're right. The numbers don't mean as much in professional 630 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: football as they do in other sports. You're still gonna 631 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: have you know, I see people saying, well, a thousand 632 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: yards season is not as meaningful. Now, yeah, I guess so. 633 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: I think we're just gonna have to get used to 634 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: the new exchange rate, that there's an extra game in there. 635 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: Somebody got the benefit of it, and we're gonna have 636 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: to evaluate things a little bit differently. A thousand looks pretty, 637 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: but we know that it's watered down because of an 638 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: extra game. The other question is are you in the 639 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: playoffs or not? How productive really are you? Are you 640 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: helping your team win games? That kind of thing. Now, 641 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: I gotta get your reaction to another story. This is 642 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: the single digit number proposal the Kansas City Chiefs. Yes, 643 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: this is harrowing to play by play announcers everywhere, Like 644 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: if the play by play guys would vote, we'd say no, 645 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, you cannot do this. I don't 646 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: want to think away people's fun. It's like college, though, 647 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: where you gonna have a three hundred pound guy wearing 648 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: number one and it's not a slimming look. Okay, it 649 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: really isn't you know? For a single digit to be 650 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: warned by a player's over two hundred and sixty seventy pounds. Right, 651 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: But here's the deal, it's gonna be a little different. 652 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: Under this proposal, line packers, defensive backs, fullbacks, running backs, 653 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: h backs, tight ends, and receivers would all be allowed 654 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: to wear jerseys in the single digits. Johnny, you and 655 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: are out. I'm in. You know I am you know. 656 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: I love this. You I love this. You know why. 657 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: Here's here's why. Because I have the hardest time. I 658 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: have a hard time coming to grips with seeing a 659 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: guy go from college to the NFL and he changes number. 660 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: Like I'll give you a great example. Champ Bailey. Champ 661 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: Bailey were number four. I thought he was. He was 662 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: the Bee's Knees, channeling my nineteen twenties reporter. I loved 663 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: watching him playing college football. He won number four, and 664 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: he comes to the league and he's number twenty four. Now, 665 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: I was my number at college, So I'd love number 666 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: twenty four. And I can't. And you get used to it, 667 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: but I'm like, man at four was just awesome. Charles 668 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: Woodson one number two. Now he's gotta change, he's gotta 669 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: wear number twenty four. He's the Packers, he's twenty one. 670 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: I would love to see Charles Woodson continue to wear 671 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: the number two. Here's the one I don't like in 672 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: college and I hope this never happens. The number zero. 673 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: I hate the fact that they allowed college football players 674 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: to wear the number zero. I hate that. Now this proposal, 675 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: you will not It will be one through forty nine. 676 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: What becomes interesting is how players will try and shoehorn 677 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: themselves into positions. For example, Chase Young at Ohio State, 678 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: he wore number two. He is a four three defensive van. 679 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: There's no question about that, no doubt. But is he 680 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: gonna is he gonna low me to be a linebacker 681 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 1: so he can go get the number two? Oh yeah, 682 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: plenty plenty of that. Tyler Shelvin's coming from LSU. He's 683 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty pounds, He's a nose tackle now, 684 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: he wore seventy two. But can you imagine no, no, 685 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I'm just a down linebacker. Let me 686 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: wear number two. I love this. I don't think it's 687 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: gonna go through. The One thing I do like about it, though, Mark, 688 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: is sometimes you're watching you know, you're watching a game, 689 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: and you see a guy with a particular number on 690 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: and you know, Okay, that's a linebacker that they think 691 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: that guy's a linebacker. They don't think he's a defensive van. 692 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: He's a linebacker because he's wearing a number in the forties. 693 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: Now you may you may not know that. And I'm 694 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: curious as to why that's the Chiefs that are pushing 695 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: for that. That's the one that I'm calling, Hm, that's interesting. 696 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: Why why is it the Chiefs and what is it 697 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: that they're what are they angling for? Because there's got 698 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: to be some reason why they put this out there. 699 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey wants to wear a different number, that's what 700 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: it is. It's got to be something like that. Well, 701 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey were eighteen in college, so maybe that's what 702 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: he's looking for. And I see the tight ends, and 703 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: the bigger they are, the weirder it looks to me. 704 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: But look, if it becomes the norm, it becomes the Norman. 705 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: You get used to it, all right. I've got one 706 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 1: more objection to this. If they pass it the way 707 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: the proposals written, I got one more objection. We'll have 708 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: that for you. And also, I can't believe this is 709 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: going to happen, but it looks like it is. I'll 710 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: tell you what that is coming up next on Texans Radio. 711 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: Don't miss a single thing on your favorite team. Follow 712 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: us on Twitter at Houston Texans. 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Now 722 00:39:53,800 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: back to more Texans talk on Texans All Excess, Hello Texans, 723 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: I missed my deep voice guy bringing us back, but 724 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: we'll just do it ourselves. Mark Vandermaron, John Harris with 725 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: you on Texans Radio Texans All Access, Johnny. One more 726 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: thing about the numbers. Quarterbacks aren't allowed to expand, right, 727 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: they can do the teens or the single digits. Hey, 728 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: that's discrimination and the old alignment too, right. Orlando Brown 729 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: was lobbying for a single digit number. Why not him 730 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: because listen, as soon as you give an offensive alignment 731 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: a single digit. Bill Belichick's guy out the Patriots guys 732 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: in two, four, six, eight across, and you're gonna have 733 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: to try and figure out who's eligible who's not. I mean, 734 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: that's the reason that's put in there is that is 735 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: for that reason, and so you know who's eligible to 736 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: receive a pass and who doesn't. And you remember in 737 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen had to changed the rule because the Patriots 738 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: they went ahead and Belchick and McDaniels were like, hey, 739 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 1: we need something. So what they did was they took 740 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: and they took a running back and they put him 741 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,720 Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage and they said he's ineligible 742 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 1: even though he's wearing an eligible number. So they announced it. 743 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: He's wearing thirty four. He's an eligible though. Well, the 744 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: Ravens are like, wait a second. They got a linebacker 745 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: over there, and they're like, wait, he's not eligible, So 746 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: who's eligible? And then they got a tight end on 747 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: the backside who doesn't look like he's eligible because he's 748 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: in a tackle spot. He runs down the middle of 749 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: the field. They hit him for a deep pass in 750 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: the playoff game and it's what turned out Divisional playoff 751 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: round around really against the Ravens. The Ravens had him 752 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: on the ropes and they got it turned around with 753 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: that little Shenanian type stuff, and the NFL said, no, no no, no, no, no. Now, 754 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you love off the lineman to 755 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: have a single digit number or a receiver number. Oh man, 756 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: all hell break loose. Isn't that amazing that they did that? 757 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: And that's the year that they beat the Colts in 758 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: the AC Championship game? Right, yes, yes, the very yeah, 759 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: they beat the Ravens. They beat the Ravens, and then 760 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: uh that come from behind to beat the Ravens did, 761 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: And they got the Colts the next week and banked 762 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: them with some lightly aired footballs apparently, and that alleged. 763 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was the biggest joke ever. So what 764 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 1: that's gonna keep you in the game at five three? 765 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: Stop it? I mean, I hate the Patriots, but I 766 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: thought the league made way too big a deal about that, 767 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: all right, way too big. Just find him fifty grand 768 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: and move on. Sorry, you don't have enough air of 769 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: the football, move on, just give him a little fine. 770 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: And the Colts put up the banner of AFC Championship 771 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: Game participant after that taking a lot of heat, which 772 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: brings me back to my point I made earlier the week, 773 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: which is the Final Four. That's a semifinal thing, and 774 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing that's got Marquis value, that's got 775 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: a tremendous sense of accomplishment to it. If you're an 776 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: AFC Championship Game loser, look, I'd like to lose there 777 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: instead of the divisional round. At least they get the 778 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: shot at the super Bowl. But you don't want to 779 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: put up a banner for losing in the AFC Championship game. 780 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: That's that, all right? One more thing here? What about 781 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: international games this year? Are you a little surprised about that? Okay, 782 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: So I've got a beef with this Mark Atlanta Grip 783 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 1: is having a problem anyway, going well, yeah, that okay, 784 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: So they announced that the Falcons are playing a game 785 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: in Tottenham. Right, So the Falcons are giving up a 786 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: home game. But the Falcons were already because they're in 787 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: the NFC. They're having Yeah, they've got nine regular season 788 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: road games, and then the Falcons had to give up 789 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: a home game. They've only got seven regular season home games. 790 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: That stinks. That's the Jaguars say, what's wrong with that? 791 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: We do that every year. But I know what you mean. Yeah, 792 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean they've got seven regular seas home games in 793 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: nine I'm sorry, seven regular season home games, nine road 794 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: regular season games. That map doesn't work. They needed to 795 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: flip that somehow. I understand giving up a home game, 796 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: but make the AFC get up the home game. Yeah, 797 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to do that. I don't know 798 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 1: if they made that official or not, but one home 799 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: game every eight years, which means one extra home game. 800 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: That means one out of four extra home games, because 801 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna get in an eight year period, 802 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: So you're giving up one out of three. Really, And 803 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: we'll have a quiz on this later, boys, so pay attention. 804 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: Follow along at home, Johnny, who do we have on tomorrow? 805 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: We have Mark Ingram, yea Mark, David Johnson and Christian Kirksey. Yeah, Mark, 806 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: Drew and I caught up with Mark Ingram was fantastic, 807 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: So we'll have that deeply cut up with David Johnson 808 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: and also Christian Kirksey. So those are gonna be really 809 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: fun interviews. Ingram was awesome. You'll you'll love it. You 810 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: absolutely love it. We had a chance to talk to him. 811 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: The best stuff was off the air too. He is, 812 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: he's wonderful. I am so glad he is in Houston. Yeah, 813 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: this is a big plus to have him on the roster. Johnny, 814 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. As we got a mark. 815 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 1: Thank you all right, that's gonna do it for tonight's show. 816 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: And I thank Eddy for producing tomorrow night. As we said, 817 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: we'll have those three guests, among other things happening. Have 818 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: a great, great Easter weekend. I know a lot of 819 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: you start celebrating it tonight and in whichever way you 820 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: do it, and remember be safe out there. Hopefully you 821 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: can get vaccinated soon. Hopefully we get through this thing 822 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: together and have a great night. Everyone, Go Texans. This 823 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: is Texans Radio on Sports Radio six ten. 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