Speaker 1: Hey man, it's your boy Friday. Check me out on
Speaker 1: the Bootleg cav podcast.
Speaker 2: Bootleg Caps show Man Special guests here Friday. Welcome Sir.
Speaker 2: Debut album coming coming soon, man, I mean obviously, man,
Speaker 2: this album is you guys. A lot of people are
Speaker 2: looking at you right now.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: We talked to BT. I said, you're kind of like
Speaker 2: the new you need the new go to. I need
Speaker 2: to hook up my rap album guy right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Do you feel the anticipation? Do you feel any pressure?
Speaker 1: Nah? No pressure, just good music, bro. Yeah, that's all
Speaker 1: I'm used to doing, giving out good music.
Speaker 2: How would you describe the album?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Life music, bro, like shoot to live to Yeah, ain't
Speaker 2: nothing in there.
Speaker 1: That's there's something there for everybody. That's what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: that's why I encourage everybody listen to the whole projects.
Speaker 1: R and B songs, pain songs, inspirational, afrobeat. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's something for everybody.
Speaker 2: How old were you when you discovered this beautiful voice
Speaker 2: of yours?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Like, when you really knew you had you had like
Speaker 2: a unique tone and voice that was very special.
Speaker 1: I was like I was singing when I was a
Speaker 1: young and early at church, but like I ain't know,
Speaker 1: like I had a unique voice to probably like high school, Okay,
Speaker 1: my voice is getting deeper. Shit, So yeah, once you
Speaker 1: start growing up your voice, yeah, and it was like
Speaker 1: niggas be like then you got like a deeper voice.
Speaker 1: It was like different, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: that's when I found out I had a unique voice.
Speaker 1: And then starting to make music every day while I
Speaker 1: was in high school, That's when I felt my sound.
Speaker 1: That's how I realized how to use my voice in
Speaker 1: a different way and not sound like everybody else.
Speaker 2: For you, like, uh, you've done a great job and
Speaker 2: pretty cool. Like I feel like a lot of artists
Speaker 2: kind of start off as like writers and they let
Speaker 2: that rock for like some years and then they go
Speaker 2: the artist route. I feel like you've done that in
Speaker 2: a quicker, quicker way, right, Because was it Chris Brown
Speaker 2: that initially kind of gave you a shot on was
Speaker 2: it Breezy Breezy?
Speaker 1: I wrote Will's fall Off News right here. That was
Speaker 1: like the first I've been writing for like a year
Speaker 1: or two. That was like the first big placement I
Speaker 1: got Chris Brown.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a fucking that's Chris Breezy.
Speaker 1: And like that was June last year, right a month
Speaker 1: after that guy did came out. So like before niggas
Speaker 1: knew out, like I was a known writer. I feel
Speaker 1: like I was seeing your name though you was seeing
Speaker 1: my name. I was seeing your name. I was putting
Speaker 1: some work in, but it was like it wasn't like,
Speaker 1: oh he he a go to writer, Like this was up.
Speaker 2: On your ship before God did. Like I remember, he
Speaker 2: was really into your ship. Like, yo, that Friday Due
Speaker 2: is hard because he's an engineer and a singer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because he's probably because he an engineer. Niggas in the
Speaker 2: industry knew me, but the world didn't know like here
Speaker 2: a writer, you know what I'm saying. So I got
Speaker 2: introduced to the world as an artist. The only people
Speaker 2: that really knew me as a writer was you know,
Speaker 2: the engineers, like if you know you know type you know.
Speaker 1: But I ain't never want to be no writer, bro,
Speaker 1: I just I knew that was the way that was
Speaker 1: kind of your way to get you in the door.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like my manager to me, like when I met him,
Speaker 1: he like being a songwriter might be an easier way
Speaker 1: to get in.
Speaker 2: I feel like it is the easiest way.
Speaker 1: It is the easiest way because because you're.
Speaker 2: Kind of there to help the artist. You're an artist,
Speaker 2: you're there to kind.
Speaker 1: Of because look, bro, like when you meet and urs
Speaker 1: and executive label niggas, you telling them your artists don't
Speaker 1: really mean ship to them unless you got some.
Speaker 2: Motion, because they hear it.
Speaker 1: They hear it every day, especially if they go on
Speaker 1: your Instagram. You know you don't got no motion. They
Speaker 1: don't give a fun going to check Spotify. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: gonna check everything, and they really don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: Even if you're nice and ship, it doesn't matter. It
Speaker 1: don't matter.
Speaker 2: Show me, show me the.
Speaker 1: Audience, Show me the audience. So if you go up
Speaker 1: to the niggas and be like, bro, I could get
Speaker 1: artists ten hooks. That's what they want to hear, bro Like, y'
Speaker 1: y'all need hooks, y'all need beats. I could do your
Speaker 1: whole album. Yeah, you go up to an end or
Speaker 1: like that, I promise you the studio tonight. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: playing some ship. So that's really the easiest way. I
Speaker 1: encourage every artist at if you're good, start there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: still do your artist, ship, don't lose yourself, but like
Speaker 1: try to get in by writing.
Speaker 2: I mean so many grades have done that, like shout
Speaker 2: to Eric, shout to Neo, I mean ship, Yeah, on
Speaker 2: and on and on, tons of folks like that. So
Speaker 2: obviously Chris Brown album comes out and then out of
Speaker 2: nowhere this God Did record, which is one of the
Speaker 2: We talked about this a bit on at the BT
Speaker 2: radio room, but like, obviously, man, this God Did Ship
Speaker 2: is like one of the craziest jay Z verses we've
Speaker 2: ever gotten. I mean from performing he Hunt the BET Awards, uh,
Speaker 2: I mean just just the Grammy Ship he said, get
Speaker 2: it right. It was the gram such an insane moment
Speaker 2: in hip hop. I mean, got calid. I feel like
Speaker 2: that record really kind of really set call it up
Speaker 2: to you know, be looked at it in a different
Speaker 2: way in terms of like putting records together. But give
Speaker 2: me the backstory of like, I guess the whole process
Speaker 2: of that song, because we've seen the video of you
Speaker 2: singing it was that in your bedroom? And that was that?
Speaker 2: Did you did you record that prior? Like like while
Speaker 2: you're actually cutting that hook? I made it. That's just crazy.
Speaker 2: I knew it was going to be special. I will
Speaker 2: tell you a story like I told you I was
Speaker 2: writing for a little bit. So I was in this
Speaker 2: pub deal in the A and R left and it
Speaker 2: was on some ship like I ain't have nobody else,
Speaker 2: like I'm broken ship, I ain't had no connection. And
Speaker 2: then too the building besides that A and R. So
Speaker 2: me and my team was looking for like a buyout.
Speaker 1: Somebody else would buy out my manager, Edgar, buy me
Speaker 1: out my pub deal. So my manager, Edgar, he connected
Speaker 1: the Eddie Mary J. Blise manager he worked at another
Speaker 1: pub company, Prescription. He telling him like, bro, we need
Speaker 1: to looking for a buyout. We needed this buyout like
Speaker 1: hed one. I'm telling you like he was just pushing that.
Speaker 1: And then Moneys go by. They finally buy me out
Speaker 1: with my pub deal. M hm. So we fresh into
Speaker 1: this pub deal. Chris Brown come out, and then I'm
Speaker 1: watching cal It on Instagram say God did every day
Speaker 1: like every time I wake up. I think he said
Speaker 1: God did like every day for like three months, I've
Speaker 1: been had like a guy did simple. And then I
Speaker 1: called my manager. I'm like, bro, let's send it, let's
Speaker 1: send it up, call it simple. He's like, nah, I
Speaker 1: make a hook, like a real hook, like just you
Speaker 1: type shit. I made the hook, Brock. As soon as
Speaker 1: I started like the idea, I called my cameraman, bro
Speaker 1: I said, come to the crib. This is special. Like
Speaker 1: I already had the melody, like before I recorded it,
Speaker 1: I already had like the melody, not even the words.
Speaker 1: I just knew where I was gonna take it. As
Speaker 1: soon as I made it, Broh, I knew this she
Speaker 1: was the one.
Speaker 2: Now did you get pretty immediate feedback from Cali that like,
Speaker 2: oh this is something like this is but I know
Speaker 2: you didn't know who didn't make You didn't know who
Speaker 2: actually made it on the record for a while right now.
Speaker 1: So look after I made it, right, we called Eddie.
Speaker 1: We played it for Eddie that Nigga went crazy. He
Speaker 1: had Cali number texted to cal Cali takes it back
Speaker 1: like the next day, I need this on my album,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like a week go by,
Speaker 1: we already starting the paperwork. It's at first it was
Speaker 1: supposed to be like a like a just me with
Speaker 1: the keys. How you hear my hook? A couple of
Speaker 1: days go by, he like I just put three artists
Speaker 1: on here and a singer said this shit gonna live forever.
Speaker 1: As soon as he said that, Bro, I'm already thinking
Speaker 1: like Nahs, Kanye jay Z, I'm thinking all high level
Speaker 1: names based off the like the record. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: So I heard rumors of who was on the track,
Speaker 1: but I ain't here the track till it came out, Bro,
Speaker 1: like everybody else.
Speaker 2: So when you heard jay Z had like a fucking
Speaker 2: I don't know how many minutes long was it? Five
Speaker 2: minutes longer? Five minutes longer made it impossible to play
Speaker 2: at radio. I'll tell you that they were trying to
Speaker 2: make all kind of random versions of that song when
Speaker 2: they were working at the radio. I'm like, guys, this
Speaker 2: is too long. Guys, this is not seven minute song
Speaker 2: is not working at radio.
Speaker 1: God bless it. It's a great record.
Speaker 2: But what was your reaction here in hope?
Speaker 1: Go off? Nah?
Speaker 2: It was crazy, bro, quite possibly the best guest jay
Speaker 2: Z for Top three. Guess jay Z vers ever.
Speaker 1: Gonna live forever, Bro, just normal part of that. It's
Speaker 1: a blessing. Bro.
Speaker 2: Were you nervous doing the Grammy performance outside with everybody?
Speaker 1: Like? Yeah, I was nervous as shit, like, so they
Speaker 1: told me I was performing I was. I was bitching, bro,
Speaker 1: like the whole It's like a month before they told
Speaker 1: me I was I was performing. I'm like, fuck, Bro, Like,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect this this early.
Speaker 2: Bro, Like, do you like, do you like really like
Speaker 2: train like a fighter trains training your voice, making sure
Speaker 2: you fucking yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like the week of the Grammys, Bro,
Speaker 1: every day I was singing Guy did like all day
Speaker 1: just so it's like by the time the Grammys come,
Speaker 1: I can't mess up because I've been singing it all week.
Speaker 1: When I woke up shower singing that shit. I remember,
Speaker 1: like right before he was about to perform, Calik came
Speaker 1: to my where I was getting dressed that type shit
Speaker 1: it's on my TikTok and he played the instrumental in
Speaker 1: my ear. His whole team, everybody else, jay Z, everybody else.
Speaker 1: Had he put the gin in my ear. I don't
Speaker 1: even know he thought I was gonna sing. That was
Speaker 1: before the performance, and I just start singing it everybody
Speaker 1: like he ready and I just once that happened, Bro,
Speaker 1: I just went on stage that same energy. Bro knocked
Speaker 1: it out the park.
Speaker 2: Talk about like some of your influences growing up obviously
Speaker 2: being out of Philly Man. Philly is obviously a legendary
Speaker 2: hip hop city. There's so many different artists. We can
Speaker 2: go back to the roots obviously all the way to
Speaker 2: meet Mill and you know, Free Way, all that good ship.
Speaker 2: But like, who were you influenced by growing up?
Speaker 1: I grew up in a church, so it was just
Speaker 1: like soul for music when I was a kid. And
Speaker 1: then like when I outside of that, I'll start going
Speaker 1: to like Boys to Men. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: what was.
Speaker 2: That dude with that deep voice on Boys to Men?
Speaker 2: Deepest ship? I know you're talking about he was talking shit.
Speaker 2: I forgot his name though, but that was like, I
Speaker 2: hope he's on cameo. That'd be the cameo to get
Speaker 2: like to have him lay down your voice, like your voicemail, like,
Speaker 2: hey what up, ladies, you call Friday, leave a voicemail
Speaker 2: and yes, this is me from Boys to Man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was like my like first and obviously Philly legends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like and then it was like right
Speaker 1: after they was just like all R and B like
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox, Brian Knight. Then I started like living my
Speaker 1: life and like Meek Mill, Kanye West and Drake shouts
Speaker 1: of I mean Jamie Fox alien level talent. Yeah, different
Speaker 1: niggas don't know, like they sleep on his music.
Speaker 2: That first album that Unpredictable. Yeah, what was that song
Speaker 2: called One Night?
Speaker 1: Was it one Night Occasion? That ship? That ship man?
Speaker 2: I was, I'm so glad he's all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: He one of the ones, top tier actor, top tier comedian,
Speaker 2: top tier singers, singers, just everything.
Speaker 1: He's a beast man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and shot to a shot to his new movie
Speaker 2: The Clone Tyrone going right now, Yeah, it's going crazy.
Speaker 2: So obviously you you end up for you the catalyst
Speaker 2: to start writing. And like, I guess everyone kind of
Speaker 2: you said you had a pub deal that you had
Speaker 2: to get bought out of, right, So what was like
Speaker 2: your first initial like real step into being in the
Speaker 2: quote unquote music industry? Like how did you get that
Speaker 2: initial pub deal? Like before we really knew who you were,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Uh shit around? Like he was like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: that's when I met my manager. Remember he was like,
Speaker 1: bro start writing, Yes, So when I met him, I
Speaker 1: was like making like ten.
Speaker 2: Hooks a week, bro, Like were you still in Philly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was in the same room at the crib. At
Speaker 2: the crib, you're like cutting the hooks, sending him to him,
Speaker 2: and then he's doing his.
Speaker 1: Job getting he's sending it out. So it's like I
Speaker 1: was made like ten ten songs a week. Yeah. At
Speaker 1: that time, I was close to my man produced, my producer,
Speaker 1: the Newso, and I started making a lot of beats
Speaker 1: on his a lot of hooks on a lot of
Speaker 1: hooks on his beat, and he was about to get signed.
Speaker 1: But the person he was about to sign to, they're like,
Speaker 1: who that on the hooks? Like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He hard. So that's how like, that's how that happened
Speaker 1: with my first pub deal tape. Shit.
Speaker 2: And now when they ask who's that on the hook?
Speaker 2: They keep you on the hook. Yeah, they keep they
Speaker 2: keep me. Now now they're like, oh, that's the Friday, Sure,
Speaker 2: we're gonna need that come over here. How in demand
Speaker 2: are you in terms of just like artists trying to
Speaker 2: get you on their ship, and how selective are you
Speaker 2: being with that because a lot of people burn out
Speaker 2: pretty quick.
Speaker 1: When it comes to oversaturating. Yeah, it's like I look
Speaker 1: at every situation like do it what do it do
Speaker 1: for both who us? They like do it benefit me?
Speaker 1: Or sometimes about the music for like the song's amazed,
Speaker 1: so amazed, and I'm fucking with you, but it's like
Speaker 1: I'm down to work with whoever. Bro Like it's just
Speaker 1: gotta makes sense for the both of us, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like at the same time, I'm giving
Speaker 1: my own my own, my own music. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's not like I'm building the
Speaker 1: already built a fanbase.
Speaker 2: Probably harder for you to give away hooks at this
Speaker 2: point because you're like, I mean that could that could
Speaker 2: be my ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I make so much music. There's more where
Speaker 1: that came from.
Speaker 2: It's like I got like five hundred that I'm not using.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say with the great ones, the
Speaker 2: great ones aren't greedy because it's just more where that is.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just write another one tomorrow, so go ahead
Speaker 2: take it, like help us out, like it's gonna help
Speaker 2: my picture the program.
Speaker 1: Like in like my music, like I say, and the
Speaker 1: music I dropped like on my projects lost the melody
Speaker 1: and ship. It's a very distinctive sound like so like
Speaker 1: a lot of the ship I make, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's not for me. I just give it to somebody else.
Speaker 1: You kind of you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't fit in my album. So everything I make for
Speaker 1: me is like one hundred percent for me. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: like say I'm working on an album, I'll make fourteen songs,
Speaker 1: and all fourteen songs going album. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not making I'm not even finishing the song right
Speaker 1: for me, And it's not you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I got like five hundred like that I wouldn't drop,
Speaker 1: but I could get somebody. Sure, it's a nice problem
Speaker 1: to have, No, for sure, we.
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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the interview. We know Chris Brown's
Speaker 2: on the album. Anybody else on the album? I'm sure
Speaker 2: there's tons of features. Let's be honest. Can you share
Speaker 2: any When do you want us to drop it where
Speaker 2: you can talk about the features. We could drop it whenever.
Speaker 2: When you when you dropping the track?
Speaker 1: I'm like a week before, so good, I got I
Speaker 1: got the veto on the track list, Shout out to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Fireboys.
Speaker 2: And by the way, David Oh, is how you say
Speaker 2: his name? Yeah? I say, I thought I thought Listen.
Speaker 2: I interviewed him, and I watched a bunch of interviews
Speaker 2: with him from Africa and they were saying David Oh.
Speaker 2: So when I said David Oh, he was like, you
Speaker 2: said my name right, And I was.
Speaker 1: Like, man, I was like yes, because I thought it
Speaker 1: was the veto the Vito David Oh say Fireboy, Yeah, Fireboy,
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, I got Byron Massaliah chat Man.
Speaker 2: You got that fucking afrobeat gods right now? That that
Speaker 2: Taliban's is going crazy right now.
Speaker 1: I got the boys on there? Who else on there?
Speaker 1: And Maverick City. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with the gospel group. It's like a choir.
Speaker 2: Oh fire I let them on the intro the It's
Speaker 2: Crazy album. Any rappers Nah? No rappers? Wow?
Speaker 1: I might. I might throw some like remix I had.
Speaker 1: I had some rappers I wanted on there. But you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying is timing mm hmm, well hopefully
Speaker 1: on like some remixes.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, Like so is the afrobeat tongue. Is everybody
Speaker 2: on the on the same song or do you have
Speaker 2: multiple I got multiple fire. Yeah, that's like that's like
Speaker 2: my second home. Like music wise, I ain't because I'm Haitian.
Speaker 2: So that like afro beat feeling is in me. It's
Speaker 2: the funnest genre. It's like, finally there's music that people
Speaker 2: can dance to happening like on the mainstream level, you
Speaker 2: know for sure. It's like the best part of the
Speaker 2: club night is when like DJ because people are having fun.
Speaker 2: It's like, shout out to marsh Madness. I love it,
Speaker 2: but I've been hearing it for like ten years. It's
Speaker 2: like it's like, yeah, I could pop bottles to that,
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna. Yeah, So for you, like, uh,
Speaker 2: let's break that because because you're one of the hook guys. Now,
Speaker 2: who would you say, is like Mount Rushmore of the
Speaker 2: best hook men of all time? Who's the hook gods?
Speaker 1: My hook gods?
Speaker 2: Nate dog Nate Dogges. I feel like undisputed top number
Speaker 2: one slot, right, yeah, Nate.
Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna go to go to Chris Brown. Of course,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Tire Dollar shout out to Tie,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna go to at the Tie. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to sanfa Oh yeah, like not even though
Speaker 1: he did a lot of hooks, but but the ones
Speaker 1: he did d fuck Everybody album look tip on right now.
Speaker 2: Like I think back to the video of like when
Speaker 2: Man and like Artists, and I just remember being like, damn,
Speaker 2: I really need to dive into this guy's catalog.
Speaker 1: If he's making grown Man cry out here, you're making
Speaker 1: real music, bro. Like a lot of bullshit be overshadowed,
Speaker 1: but the music, the real music will be put in
Speaker 1: the back a lot nowadays. But when you're telling like
Speaker 1: a nigga like Sanfah Special, Bro.
Speaker 2: I donna say, like, uh, what what was it like
Speaker 2: growing up in Philly for you? Because we kind of
Speaker 2: hear so much. You know, my co host DJ Damages
Speaker 2: from Philly, and he would always tell me like about
Speaker 2: North Philly and places like Chester, Pennsylvania, and just like
Speaker 2: like Philly is like that just that area in general,
Speaker 2: wild place. And there's a lot of videos that have
Speaker 2: been going viral recently of like because Fatana shit's really bad.
Speaker 2: You've probably seen the videos of people like slumped out,
Speaker 2: like looking like zombies all over the streets ship out there.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's like near where I'm from, a.
Speaker 2: Little bit by the way, also happening here in LA.
Speaker 2: But you know, but what was it like for you
Speaker 2: up in Philly? I mean, obviously you were going to church,
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm sure you were. You had a
Speaker 2: great childhood, but like, was it was it easier or
Speaker 2: hard for you to deal with like kind of staying
Speaker 2: out of that ship.
Speaker 1: You know, church was in the trenches. Yeah, like my
Speaker 1: pop church was in the trenches, bro. So it was like,
Speaker 1: it's not like I had an easy childhood. Like as
Speaker 1: soon as you step out of church, it might be
Speaker 1: a shootout, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean, but you were able to kind of
Speaker 2: keep It's kind of like you gotta like.
Speaker 1: It's a rough neighborhood, bro. It's easy to like fall
Speaker 1: into in that lifestyle, right, and it's like you really
Speaker 1: just got to stay out the way, Like just stay
Speaker 1: out the way, bro, like because it would be like
Speaker 1: you be in the way, not even on some dumb shit,
Speaker 1: you just be in the way some crazy way, just
Speaker 1: like you're at the wrong place at the right time.
Speaker 1: So what I will say, like I was always focused
Speaker 1: on music, like everybody knew me, Like that's fried like
Speaker 1: on some music ship, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I used to gineer niggas in Philly, produce for
Speaker 1: niggas like on some studio ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it was just like I was always on some
Speaker 1: music shipping out the way for her. So it's definitely
Speaker 1: like a rough city though. But you really gotta like
Speaker 1: just s you gotta be.
Speaker 2: Focused so you don't get fall into you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you how do you feel about the other
Speaker 2: trend that's happened in Philly right now? If you think
Speaker 2: you guys are too rare and just like the dance
Speaker 2: ship is going crazy.
Speaker 1: They have bro, they're having a way. Yeah, they having
Speaker 1: like it's beautiful bro to see.
Speaker 2: Who's the group kids? You guys just signed? Yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: the sturdy ship is going crazy. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 2: like it's like everybody's kind of doing their own version
Speaker 2: Philly thing.
Speaker 1: Everybody having fun bro, Like they brought it like a fun.
Speaker 2: Vibe, fun energy that was missing.
Speaker 1: And that's why I like Afro beat doing what they're doing,
Speaker 1: Like you being the club. All these somethings about killing
Speaker 1: and ship, all this Afro shit, Come on, niggas, want
Speaker 1: to have funny dance, bro, Like I feel that why
Speaker 1: Afro doing so good? And even the niggas from Philly,
Speaker 1: like they bring in like good vibes back.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm thinking like even like obviously Uzzi's from Philly, right,
Speaker 2: so Uzzi like doing just want to rock. It's like
Speaker 2: the biggest song in the club for like a year.
Speaker 2: It's like just this fun song, like fun music.
Speaker 1: Bro. And them regular niggas too from the trenches too,
Speaker 1: so like don't get it, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like them they just decide, Yeah, they focus on the
Speaker 1: right ship, like we don't gotta be on those streets
Speaker 1: ship making songs about violence and all that. They just
Speaker 1: having fun.
Speaker 2: Bro, did you ever like tap in with like like
Speaker 2: obviously prior to your generation, but did you ever dive
Speaker 2: into any of the roots music back from back in
Speaker 2: the day, Uh, A little bit like Black Cloud's is
Speaker 2: one of the greatest rappers that walk on the planet.
Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't really on that, but I wasn't
Speaker 2: on that though, but I'm familiar, Like I know they legends.
Speaker 2: You gotta quest love having played drums on a song
Speaker 2: or something. I know, clench love U shitting the drums
Speaker 2: just like yo being on man, come and play drums
Speaker 2: on this just for Philly.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. But I wasn't really on them early,
Speaker 1: like I.
Speaker 2: Mean, you weren't on them early because you also weren't
Speaker 2: alive exactly, because being on them early would have been
Speaker 2: you were listening to them m because I think their
Speaker 2: first album was like ninety two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was knowing them a lot.
Speaker 2: And that album isn't even on Spotify. You gotta buy
Speaker 2: it like on a real Yeah, it's like yeah. And
Speaker 2: then you know Scott Storch, Yeah, he was in the
Speaker 2: roots for that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I knew that. Somebody told me that started in the roots. Legend.
Speaker 1: You gotta get with Storch man.
Speaker 2: Have you got in with him yet?
Speaker 1: No? No yet? The legend though.
Speaker 2: Let him tell you some stories. I know he got
Speaker 2: some crazy, the craziest ever. Any girl that you think of.
Speaker 2: When I say this to you right now, that pops
Speaker 2: in your head.
Speaker 1: He is true.
Speaker 2: He fucked everybody first, So whatever girls just popped up
Speaker 2: in your head.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Then everybody, everybody, we gotta sit down with skorts. You
Speaker 2: gotta go out to Miami.
Speaker 1: I heard he went stupid when he was up and
Speaker 1: then he went down. But he's back up. You back
Speaker 1: up right now.
Speaker 2: He got through it.
Speaker 1: I heard that story he used to snack.
Speaker 2: The amount of money Scott Storts was spending on just
Speaker 2: like everything was just I mean, Jesus Christ, God blessed
Speaker 2: that guy.
Speaker 1: I'm just a legend. Cousin Mark Sor. We'll be having
Speaker 1: an argument like who better Timbo or Scortch. I'll be
Speaker 1: going with Timbo. Yeah, you know, some say stop Scott Storch.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's like Timberland's like top three. Ever,
Speaker 2: so his range is insane. Jay Z he can do
Speaker 2: Bubba Sparks. He could do it, and he could do
Speaker 2: it Nellie.
Speaker 1: Fortado Like that's why he's my favorite.
Speaker 2: The range of him is insane. How you have you
Speaker 2: heard anybody try to make an AI version of yourself yet? No,
Speaker 2: I'm waiting it's gonna happen, and I want to hear
Speaker 2: it though, like crazy like can AI now your your tone?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I mean now?
Speaker 2: And some others Crazy Ship they are Rihanna Kanye the
Speaker 2: Rihanna Tims remixed.
Speaker 1: That ship crazy Fire. Yeah, I've seen some other ship.
Speaker 1: It was a I think it was Kanye and Frank.
Speaker 1: Kanye is sung a Frank Ocean joint. No, Kanye's under
Speaker 1: Justin Biever Junk. And that ship was crazy though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of crazy that a I think is
Speaker 2: getting a little it's getting little sketch.
Speaker 1: They I hope they shut that ship down.
Speaker 2: They're not going to the labels are going to start sucking.
Speaker 2: They're doing the same ship the actors are doing.
Speaker 1: The actor You.
Speaker 2: See a why the actors are on strike. They're trying
Speaker 2: to slide in a little artificial intelligence into the movies. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so like extras, Like they want the extras to be
Speaker 2: like AI, Like they want to be able to scan
Speaker 2: like an actor and then use their artificial likeliness. It's coming, bro.
Speaker 1: Ship they got that one joint where the boy made
Speaker 1: a uh I think some boy made a song like
Speaker 1: Drake Future in the weekend, that ship hit like a
Speaker 1: million the.
Speaker 2: First Oh yeah, yeah, this was like yeah, this was
Speaker 2: like what maybe like six months ago, seven months and
Speaker 2: that ship went.
Speaker 1: This ship hard because.
Speaker 2: It's like also not a bad idea if you're a writer.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's a terrible idea to like.
Speaker 1: Writers on there right now, writers doing all AI ship.
Speaker 2: Because like this is what this is like, let me
Speaker 2: send this out. So, like my thing is is, if
Speaker 2: you're a writer and you write a song for Drake,
Speaker 2: do you send the AI Drake version to his team?
Speaker 2: So look, this is how he would sound. I've seen
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Speaker 2: you straight melody than punching.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, yeah, I'm melody punching in yeah or melody
Speaker 1: and just thinking.
Speaker 2: Pro tools guy, When you're recording yourself.
Speaker 1: Logic.
Speaker 2: Wow, we just this guy just switched over to logic
Speaker 2: right here. He loves like, Oh, I'm a logic Yeah.
Speaker 2: Logic is the ship, though, the ship.
Speaker 1: I've been on there for like ten years.
Speaker 2: And you don't need a license, you don't need a
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Speaker 2: All right, So the album's coming out.
Speaker 1: Win August twenty fifth.
Speaker 2: That's very soon. Yeah, that's two weeks away. Three weeks away.
Speaker 2: Ship with Day the seventh, Like three weeks What is today?
Speaker 2: Bro the eleventh? I don't even know. Today's the fourth?
Speaker 2: Holy shit, dogs like my whole life. I have no
Speaker 2: idea what's going on anywhere?
Speaker 1: Today's the fourth? All right?
Speaker 2: Three weeks away the debut album. I'm very excited for it.
Speaker 2: Debut album, man, Yeah, a lot of people looking forward
Speaker 2: to this.
Speaker 1: Man, it's gonna touch a lot of people too.
Speaker 2: Have you picked the next single yet?
Speaker 1: Obviously?
Speaker 2: The Chris Brown Songs going crazy. But have you guys
Speaker 2: picked the next singer? You're gonna let the fans. We
Speaker 2: dropped another one. We dropped a single two weeks ago
Speaker 2: that when it comes to you.
Speaker 1: Who's on that? Wasn't that one? That was just you? Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that, So Chris Brown Jump, we dropped
Speaker 1: when it comes to you, it's going crazy right now,
Speaker 1: the video going crazy.
Speaker 2: And you know what's gonna happen when the album comes out.
Speaker 2: You guys are gonna see them streams go up and
Speaker 2: whatever record. And that's usually I feel like that's kind
Speaker 2: of the new way to you throw out the singles
Speaker 2: and then you put the album and then let the
Speaker 2: fans kind of gravitate towards especially with these bigger artists. Now,
Speaker 2: the labels will hit me and they'll be like, Hey,
Speaker 2: which song do you like on the album that just
Speaker 2: came out with no note like Utopia right, like no
Speaker 2: one likes k pop.
Speaker 1: Probably the worst song on the album, Nigga Crazy.
Speaker 2: It is the worst song on the album. It's not
Speaker 2: a terrible song. I love Utopia each on, but it's like,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna go with a record, you gotta go
Speaker 2: with the meltdown right to each is on what's your
Speaker 2: favorite do you like?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: First of all, what are your thoughts on Utopia? It's
Speaker 2: a great album, great production. Yeah, I liked it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like it. Yeah, what's your what's your album of
Speaker 2: the year so far?
Speaker 1: This year?
Speaker 2: Besides you can't say a.
Speaker 1: Great question, don't yourself album of the year? And on
Speaker 1: my phone.
Speaker 2: Because the narrative is it's been a pretty rough year
Speaker 2: for music.
Speaker 1: It's been a crazy year, not the best year. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to go on some afro beat shit probably okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be on the asro shiit. Hip hop is like,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's been I don't feel like niggas.
Speaker 1: Nigga's not focused no more how they used to be.
Speaker 2: Like That's why, in my opinion, the best album of
Speaker 2: the year so far as Killer Mike's album.
Speaker 1: I heard that shit was crazy and somebody played me
Speaker 1: that John too. It's a joint Andre three thousand on
Speaker 1: there My Future hard yep. Andre three thousand Future.
Speaker 2: Also worked on that album for like four years, so
Speaker 2: that's I mean, listen.
Speaker 1: Based off that sound song alone, bro production, cadence, real music, bro,
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm saying like that music is not
Speaker 1: being pushed in front of the bullshit like he dropped
Speaker 1: the album of the year. I would get on some
Speaker 1: rap shit how when I listen, But it's like so
Speaker 1: much bullshit be put in the front of our face.
Speaker 1: The real music is pushing it back, bro, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I feel like niggas gotta
Speaker 1: start back. I feel like back then, bro, all the
Speaker 1: all the the ship that was put in the front
Speaker 1: of our face, it had some like some structure to us,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like fifty these niggas was
Speaker 1: making hooks that everybody could sing.
Speaker 2: Bro, Like, listen, I'm to get your take because you're
Speaker 2: a songwriter, right. I feel, for whatever reason right now,
Speaker 2: like the women in hip hop are like the only
Speaker 2: people who are really kind of applying themselves and trying
Speaker 2: to make real records. And I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: because you know, they're in with more writers or they
Speaker 2: they're they're they're try I just feel like women are
Speaker 2: making the most palatable, palatable records with structure, with hooks,
Speaker 2: with like melodies like it just I feel like they're
Speaker 2: really running circles around uh. Male artists right now in
Speaker 2: terms of just like when you turn the radio on, like.
Speaker 1: They having any way. Yeah, cat, like the.
Speaker 2: Chicks are killing it, like shout out the sexy red dog.
Speaker 1: She having a way.
Speaker 2: Like I think they killing it more because they being
Speaker 2: themself type shit. They're not trying too hard.
Speaker 1: Just being them and just you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: even they they were origin of themself.
Speaker 2: And I also think women are very like, uh, for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, a lot of women artists are like extremely
Speaker 2: open to like bringing in help for melodies, for hooks.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying for verses, but you know, no men
Speaker 2: and niggas is too. Yeah, I mean, but you can't.
Speaker 2: You just can't hear it in the songs. Yeah, motherfucker
Speaker 2: is just rapping like three minutes. You're like, wait, where's
Speaker 2: the Oh, that's the hook?
Speaker 1: Like, oh, bro, these niggas just making These niggas will
Speaker 1: wrap the whole song and just make the song title
Speaker 1: or something they said in the song they got no hook.
Speaker 2: And then the hook is just like it sounds like
Speaker 2: an extension.
Speaker 1: Of a verse.
Speaker 2: And then when you hear it back again the verse, Yes,
Speaker 2: and it's the laziest.
Speaker 1: Ship said in the verse. They will name the title
Speaker 1: of the song. Oh the fucking bro. We need a
Speaker 1: new we need a new age. Fifty cent bro, we
Speaker 1: need something this nigga fifty cent made hooks. Sure that
Speaker 1: joh Nelly hooks bro Like, so when you're in the club,
Speaker 1: everybody's singing that hook bro like that ship. That's why
Speaker 1: I think hip hop not where it needs to be
Speaker 1: right now. Bro, I agree with you, man, people gotta
Speaker 1: start making records again. Shout out to uh so everybody.
Speaker 1: They're trying though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Look, Friday, the album comes out on August twenty fifth,
Speaker 2: which is also a Friday. It'd only be right your
Speaker 2: album comes out on a Friday. Well, all albums come
Speaker 2: out on a Friday. But we're going to act like
Speaker 2: this is on purpose. You know, back in the day
Speaker 2: on a Friday, if it came out on today, was
Speaker 2: still to jump And look at us filming this interview
Speaker 2: on a Friday, sure Jesus, you know, like we're super
Speaker 2: woke and all that shit's lining up and there's some
Speaker 2: sort of hidden meaning in that, and we're will decipher
Speaker 2: and let the fans kind of figure out how Illuminati
Speaker 2: is involved in this interview. Friday, dropping an album on Friday
Speaker 2: while being interviewed on a Friday. All right, there it is, man,
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.
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