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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and uh well, Matt our DFS lineup.

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Speaker 2: Once again, we took a zero.

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Speaker 3: He used to be good at this.

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Speaker 2: We used to be very good at this. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: took a zero from Ricky Pearsall.

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Speaker 3: I guess that could happen. I mean, he's a The

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Speaker 3: other two were getting all with targets, but Kittle was out,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. We didn't even know that

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Speaker 3: at the time. We knew it was a chance, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Cedric Tillman. So let's let take so first of all,

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Speaker 2: I noticed this last night because I started looking at

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Speaker 2: our lineup. I started looking through what everybody else did.

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Speaker 2: The contest we entered had forty people. Now this is

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Speaker 2: a single entry contest with two hundred and twenty nine

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Speaker 2: players in it, and there were forty people who had

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Speaker 2: the same exact lineup. You're only allowed and hours because

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Speaker 2: they were listening to one of ours I had. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that defies logic to me.

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Speaker 3: I think it's like nearly impossible.

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Speaker 2: Nearly impossible. So I sent a message to DraftKings about

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Speaker 2: it and have not heard back yet. I'm like, this,

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Speaker 2: you might want to check into this because this is

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Speaker 2: just boggles my mind just a little bit that there

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Speaker 2: would be that many people tied in thirty fifth place

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Speaker 2: in the contest that we were in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I mean, is there I don't know enough

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Speaker 3: about it. I just sit here and pick players. Is

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Speaker 3: there is there bots or whatever that can do these

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Speaker 3: for you?

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Speaker 2: That That's what I'm wondering. If there was a bot

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Speaker 2: out there to pick that lineup and that's why everybody

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Speaker 2: played so right now we have eighty four point five

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Speaker 2: eight points. We get still Joe Mixon going tonight, who

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Speaker 2: was our biggest heavy investments.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the reason I started looking at them, like

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Speaker 3: justin Herbert was owned in forty eight point nine percent

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Speaker 3: of league, which is insanely in this particular contest, which

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Speaker 3: is insanely high. For now, he was a bargain. You

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Speaker 3: can see why he's attractive. We were attracted to put

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Speaker 3: forty point nine percent. That's really high. So it was

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Speaker 3: all those ones, Yeah, they all hat Herbert. So you

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Speaker 3: don't get anything on.

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Speaker 2: We gained nothing there on that because.

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Speaker 3: He was a win for us, I mean considering what

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Speaker 3: we paid for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Cedric Tillman was owned in sixty three point eight percent.

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Speaker 3: Of leagues also somebody we owned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, he only got seven point seven points, so

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Speaker 2: that didn't even help her.

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Speaker 3: Really hurt us. The Brown Widers. We'll talk about more

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Speaker 3: of this week is on the Brown wide receiver situations.

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Speaker 3: A little strange, A little strange. Judy's kind of stepping up,

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Speaker 3: but they throw the ball a ton. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh So we had David Montgomery in the lineup, which

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Speaker 2: was good, eight point seven percent ownership. Again good, he

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Speaker 2: had twenty four point five points. We hit that on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't all loss.

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Speaker 2: Piersall was a but he was owning six point five

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Speaker 3: The other one was worse.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Tilman was bad. George Pickens twenty eight point

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Speaker 2: of them. Yeah, nothing wrong with that, right, right. Kelsey

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Speaker 2: kill That's what killed Kelsey and Hawkinson. Kelsey was owning

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Speaker 2: ten point five percent of the league's caught two passes

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Speaker 3: We paid up for him. I thought it was going

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Speaker 2: Passes for eight yards from Travis Kelcey in a big game,

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Speaker 2: a game they lost thirty to twenty one, and Noah

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Speaker 2: Great catches two touchdown passes. Yeah, I know, Brutal Hawkinson

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Speaker 2: three point three point three points. He was seven point

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Speaker 3: Out of them, But were they one of the ones

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Speaker 3: that that they were they were cheapy that everybody owned

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Speaker 3: or that whole group owned. Yeah, so our good stuff

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Speaker 3: got not allied by the masses.

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Speaker 2: By the apparently the bot that that either either that

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Speaker 2: or somebody told all these people to enter this contest.

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Speaker 2: I find that very hard to believe. I'd like to

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Speaker 2: know how many people, how many contests was that lineup

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Speaker 3: Unless there's a whole office just sitting there chatting about it, like,

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Speaker 2: A round number forty on the nose. You got a

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Speaker 2: problem DraftKings and they're saying something happened there.

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Speaker 3: Those tight ends are what destroyed us, just killed it,

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Speaker 3: you know, Pier saw at least.

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Speaker 2: Here saw forty nine hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, okay, you're not going to hit on

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Speaker 3: all your late guys. Yeah, you'd expect them to catch

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean that was just a bad game,

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Speaker 2: and they both happened to have a bad game at.

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Speaker 3: The same time. Yeah, but we've not been good this year,

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Speaker 2: Have been in previous years. No, we did finish in

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Speaker 2: the money like twice last year. The year before that

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Speaker 2: we finished in the money I think thirteen or it was,

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Speaker 2: well all but one week. I think it's it's baffling.

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Speaker 3: The Zeros are killing us.

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Speaker 2: The Zeros are killing us.

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Speaker 3: But these were just bad decisions by us. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't like something got hurt in.

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Speaker 2: The first that they were bad decisions. As you just said,

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Speaker 2: Kelsey and Hawkinson, you'd start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the process wasn't bad, but the results were. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, looking at this week's leaderboard, Jared goff right

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Speaker 3: than you had touchdown passes. We've gone this long and

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Speaker 3: you still haven't told everyone how you beat me in

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Speaker 3: our league. I'm shocked with your humbleness, like a rented mule.

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Speaker 3: And I had a good week too. I think I

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Speaker 3: have like one twenty something like that, a decent week.

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Speaker 3: You blew up and then you're like, oh, you should

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Speaker 3: have started golf. If you had started started golf, I

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Speaker 3: had Jane Daniels right, you'd had a chance if you

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Speaker 3: started them, but you you still wouldn't have one. But

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Speaker 2: I only beat you by sixty points.

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Speaker 3: Is that where we're at? Yeah? I didn't look after

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Speaker 3: giant chasecoing last night. Knew had Higgins and Higgins actually

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Speaker 3: outscored him. Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Jamis Winston who the Steelers will see this week. Thirty

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Speaker 2: two touchdowns, three sacks in that game he throws it.

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Speaker 2: They will throw the football, and you have to take

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Speaker 2: advantage of the mistakes that he makes. He will make mistakes.

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Speaker 3: But for pure fantasy, should he be in leagues? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna. I mean they can't run the

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Speaker 3: ball all right, and their receivers aren't bad, including the Djoku.

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Speaker 3: And he's aggressive. Yeah, obviously, leagues that penalize you for interceptions,

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Speaker 2: They scored four He threw for three hundred and ninety

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Speaker 3: I know, unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost another starting tackle. Joe Burrow threw it

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Speaker 2: fifty times and they lost three hundred and fifty six

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Speaker 3: All though he's been like a top five fantasy producer

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Speaker 3: for quite a while now.

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Speaker 2: Bo knicks twenty eight of thirty three, three h seven

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Speaker 3: I think the Falcons had something to do with that,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, very real. I mean, Drake may Nicks. These

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Speaker 3: are fantasy worthy.

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Speaker 2: Those were the only three hundred yard games this week.

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Speaker 3: Okay, pretty low.

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Speaker 2: Pretty low. Anthony Richardson had an okay game seventy two

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Speaker 3: Okay, a lot of at the Bowers, right, a lot

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that a little bit here just looking

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Speaker 2: at the other guys. Caleb Williams has a bit of

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Speaker 2: a bounce back to thirty one. He ran more in

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Speaker 3: I think the new offensive coordinator could help him a little.

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Speaker 3: I mean they seem to have more answers. And I

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Speaker 3: don't know I'm running out and starting him right now,

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Speaker 3: but you better pay attention to him. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of quarterback options out there right now.

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Speaker 2: Only two one hundred yard rushers this week. Okay, Sakwan

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Speaker 2: Barkley twenty six for one forty six and two scores

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Speaker 2: on Thursday night. The other one Taysom Hill yeh seven

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Speaker 3: Justin and I were talking about this before you walked in,

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Speaker 3: before we hit record. He's been like on and off

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Speaker 3: my lineup. I've almost pick them up one hundred times.

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Speaker 3: Justin was talking about how he starts him every time

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Speaker 3: he's bad, and he's on the bench every time he's

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Speaker 3: That is the experience, man, experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I trust.

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Speaker 3: Him a little more now than I usually do, just

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Speaker 3: because the receivers are crazy. I mean, they're they're poor,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, so he has to touch the

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Speaker 3: ball for them to generate offense. But as we'll talk

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Speaker 3: about these next coming days, Brown's defense is not real

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Speaker 3: psyched up about doing the hard stuff right now. No,

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Speaker 3: you know, they are a favorable opponent if they play

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Speaker 2: Leads me to believe you might see a little more

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Speaker 2: justin fields, running some.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's a great point. Why not, you know, I mean.

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Speaker 2: They obviously didn't defend it well last week.

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Speaker 3: I stole this off to you because we were talking

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Speaker 3: earlier and you mentioned that. I'm like, oh, that makes

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Speaker 3: all the sense in the world. Older quarterback that's you know,

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Speaker 3: playing three pretty rough games. Maybe take a little bit

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Speaker 3: off his plate physically on a super short week on

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Speaker 2: They're not going to fix that issue.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't think so, right, I would think, you know,

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Speaker 3: mix in some fields. Not to mention again, this hurts

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Speaker 3: for fantasy world, but if the Steelers get a big lead,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind seeing fields close out a game or

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Speaker 3: two going forward, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyra Williams had eighty six yards. Chase Brown at

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Speaker 2: eighty six yards that was really kind of it this week.

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Speaker 3: Pretty lean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, receiver wise, a whole bunch twelve one hundred yard

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Speaker 3: Okay, there wasn't that many big time passers, but all right,

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Speaker 3: let's go through these.

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Speaker 2: A mon Ross Saint Brown eleven for one sixty one

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Speaker 3: What's he have? Like the eight game touchdown street going

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Speaker 3: it might even more than that?

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Speaker 2: Did eleven targets.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Judy six for one in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Tilman's still had nine targets, and say, Tilman's very involved,

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Speaker 3: But Judy's been noticeably better with Winston. Elijah Moore is

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Rock Bauers thirteen for one to twenty six in

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Speaker 3: I think they're smart and well they've done start to finish.

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Speaker 3: it's just volume. Jameis and Williams four for one to

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Speaker 2: Pokin Nakua seven for one to twenty three in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: I think I prefer him the Cup. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 2: Ladd mcconkee six for one to twenty three but did

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Speaker 2: One Nick Westbrook Ackinney two for one seventeen but he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot about that touch volume right with that.

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Speaker 3: You could pick him up. I mean, he's probably when

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Speaker 3: we talk waiver wire stuff, he's probably available.

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Speaker 2: He's since Hopkins left, he's kind of been their number

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Speaker 3: And yeah, and in any offense, if you're a capable

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Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba ten for one ten good player.

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Speaker 3: I think he's turning corner that now. We just trust

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Speaker 2: The bad thing is, so I beat you this week

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I would have had them and started them

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Speaker 2: but it is what it is. Yeah, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: Complain and you didn't beat me by enough one by sixty. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Cooper cup At eleven six for one oh six and

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: John new Smith six for one oh one and two scores.

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Speaker 2: I got that one right, You got that one right.

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Speaker 2: You were on him in the preseason. Yeah, kill him waddle.

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Speaker 3: Kill him Wattle. And I don't quite understand it, but

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Speaker 3: I kind of do understand it. I mean he's a

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Speaker 3: mean he does a lot of good stuff, a lot

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Speaker 2: Definitely the way he's played the last few weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings just missed ten for ninety one in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He might be more valuable than Debo.

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Speaker 2: He might be. He's like that conversation. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 2: certainly more valuable than Ricky Piersall this week. Yeah. Austin

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Speaker 3: He's a really valuable receiver. Yeah, I think he's every

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Speaker 2: When we put together our Captain's chair DFS lineup for

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Speaker 2: We had done very well with that lineup. We didn't

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Speaker 2: hit submit though, we did not hit submit. Pickens eight

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Speaker 3: And they did a lot to try to take him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Marquez Valdez Scantling did it again. He's still not

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's no other show in town, so that's important.

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Speaker 3: They throw, they chuck it d they do truck the game.

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Speaker 3: But I I'm fine picking them up. I'm just not

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Speaker 2: Josh downs five for eighty four in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: That's that's really encouraging. Yeah. I mean Richardson threw the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Brian Thomas had five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the situation they really didn't do a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: a day. But I'm not sure it accomplishes anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, at this point, David and Joku

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Speaker 3: Kind of a top five ish tight end too.

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Speaker 2: I expect a lot of mink on him this week.

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Speaker 3: It makes some sense. Yeah, make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson six for eighty one did not score again,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of his floor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll get frustrated. I mean, you own Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: Will Disley is a guy we got to talk about.

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Speaker 2: We're for eighty in a touchdown. Herbert seems to.

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Speaker 3: Like him absolutely. The Chargers love him. I mean, this

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Speaker 3: I mean, get rid of Mike Williams, Keenan Allen. The

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Speaker 3: He's a good blocker, he's a two way tight end.

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Speaker 3: There's not a lot of target competition. I'm not saying that,

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Speaker 3: you know, like my son's had had to forget it.

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Speaker 3: up Disleey. I'm like, yeah, that's all right, and he

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Speaker 2: He didn't do it. Will Disley did.

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Speaker 3: No, Disley might be a good best guy for us

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Speaker 3: going forward. Them we're gonna kind of cheap it out

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Speaker 2: I don't know how cheap he's going to continue to be.

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Speaker 2: The last few weeks have been pretty good for him.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, you know, some of the stars

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Speaker 3: Still went deep down the field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a thirty nine yard catch in that game.

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Speaker 3: I think Pittman's like the least valuable of those receivers. Now. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: even Mitchell makes plays when he's out there like that.

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Speaker 3: Could be a good offense if the quarterback completes passes.

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Speaker 3: They got a running back, they are line you know.

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Speaker 2: Just got to complete the passes. They'll be able to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did once, see if he can do it again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll keep an eye on that for sure. Of course,

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Speaker 2: we'll put him in our DFS line up next week

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Speaker 2: and he'll do nothing.

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Speaker 3: They'll do nothing. Yeah, he ran a little bit more

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Speaker 2: You know, absolutely, But that's this week's fantasy schedule. We'll

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Speaker 3: The Texan battle here, Texans Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: We need a huge game out of Joe Mixon. We

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Speaker 3: But it's possible. I mean, he gets all the touches

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's important. Absolutely, but let's get to a break.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 2: Audio Network and Matt Mike Tomlin holding his press conference today.

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Speaker 2: Oh right, weird way because of the Thursday night game.

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Speaker 2: So uh, said Alex Highsmith. Likely out this week, more

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Speaker 2: wasn't expected to play.

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Speaker 3: On a short week, No, no shock, but maybe the

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Speaker 3: long week after it could be good for him, right,

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Speaker 2: I said? Corey Trice could be available this week. They

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Speaker 3: Do you think he would go above Pierre on the

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Speaker 3: I would assume, So I wouldn't assume that, right, Pierre's

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Speaker 3: definitely active because of special teams.

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Speaker 2: Special teams is the key, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But if they're both active and Jackson or Porter

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Speaker 2: I don't see how they could both be active, that's

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Speaker 2: the problem. Something's going to be active. Yeah, Okay, So

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Speaker 2: there's no rush for man, Yeah, there's Yeah, I got

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Speaker 2: another two weeks. They can kind of let him.

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Speaker 3: Ramp himself up, maybe work itself out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Michael Pruittz should be okay. No injury issues

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Speaker 2: coming out of yesterday's game, which is.

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Speaker 3: That was actually my next question is I thought Benton

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Speaker 2: Uh, he got up and walked off on his own.

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Speaker 3: Tom was the one I was most concer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tomlas said, now he's he's fine.

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Speaker 3: he's he's okay. Good, that's key. That would have been

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Speaker 2: Like you take a helmet right on the kneecap or

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Speaker 2: like crazy, Yeah, and then it's not a significant injury.

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00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 3: It's just painful when you're walking.

442
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,920
Speaker 2: All the time. Yeah, hitting your leg on the coffee

443
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,919
Speaker 2: table or something, like that on a lego or something

444
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 2: like that.

445
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 3: That's definitely worse than what went so in that regard

446
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,360
Speaker 3: to the Steelers in good shape, it's great. I mean

447
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 3: for as late as it is in the season to

448
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 3: be in that situation, it's not bad.

449
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 2: The Browns, on the other hand.

450
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 3: He lost another starting tackle for the year. Yeah, somebody

451
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 3: actually had a little bit of a bright future to him.

452
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 2: Day one, Jones got hurt again.

453
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 3: Yes, broken leg. I think it was an armor leg,

454
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,439
Speaker 3: but it's a broken ankle. Ankle, yeah, break. So this

455
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 3: is a second year in a row for him that

456
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 3: he'll finish on I R. He was kind of nicked

457
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 3: up during his career. Yeah at Ohio States. Just a

458
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,159
Speaker 3: lot of leg there to Uh, it's a lot of

459
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,360
Speaker 3: It's got to be on angles with that that much weight,

460
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 3: I'm sure, But I mean this was a break. I

461
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,360
Speaker 3: mean he gets snapped or whatever. Yeah.

462
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 2: Denzel Ward also left that game for them early.

463
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know what his status is either, but

464
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 3: they're pretty deep a corner and Steelers don't play a

465
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 3: ton of eleven, so they could probably get away with it.

466
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 3: But he's a good player on the defense. That doesn't

467
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,719
Speaker 3: look real psyched to be there, and even though they

468
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 3: have good players.

469
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 2: Ribbon, ankle injuries for him, he's not playing two things.

470
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would be shocked then. Yeah, so Newsom

471
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 3: would go entirely outside. I mean, they could survive it,

472
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 3: but they don't have a slot though. They don't really

473
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 3: have a third guy, right, Yeah, that's the problem.

474
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 2: So we'll see about that. I actually have an updated

475
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 2: injury for him. So Denzel Word and Greg Newsom hurt.

476
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know Newsle got hurt that game. Yeah,

477
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 3: so okay.

478
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: They also placed defensive tackle Mike Hall on injured reserve.

479
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 3: That was our first pick, the first draft pick.

480
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jedrick Wills. If they would have practiced today, they

481
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 2: did an estimated practice, he would not have practiced. They

482
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,479
Speaker 2: ruled him out last week.

483
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 3: I mean they would need he would be thrustraight back

484
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 3: in the starting lineup.

485
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Kevin stefanskis saying that Word and Newsome are both

486
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 2: day to day with injuries. They would leave them with.

487
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 2: They've only had three cornerbacks healthy on their active roster.

488
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: They only had five to begin with. So it's Martin Emerson.

489
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: He's a starter. He's good, you know.

490
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 2: Cameron Mitchell and Mike Ford.

491
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, would you attack them with more eleven than

492
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 3: you usually do just to get those guys on the field.

493
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you have to do anything, I

494
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: don't know.

495
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 3: You have to go way out of your comfort zone.

496
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 2: You have to do anything crazy, right, I mean, if

497
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 2: I think if you had more time to prepare for this,

498
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 2: when you might do stuff like that. But you don't

499
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 2: have to.

500
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I like the idea of getting fields incorporated

501
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 3: and a little bit more. But I mean it's not

502
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 3: like you have to spare Wilson. Obviously, you got to

503
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: deal with Garrett Tomlinson. The middle versus Frasier is a interesting,

504
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 3: you know battle, but he's not a superstar. He's not

505
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence on the nose or anything like that. Fans

506
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 3: will be happy to know that they played Devin Bush

507
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 3: a lot. He played three quarters.

508
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: He was their leading tackler in that game with seven.

509
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 3: So you're gonna see a lot of him.

510
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: I don't think he's jumping on people's back.

511
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 3: Greatly improved his play and it stopped since Pittsburgh. Either

512
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,719
Speaker 3: safeties are good, j Oka's hurt. He's one of their

513
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 3: better players. Yeah, he's on IR so he's not playing

514
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 3: to play either. I mean, they just give up. They

515
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: traded Ladarious Smith four hundred and seventy three yards to

516
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: the Saints without any receiver, without any of the receivers

517
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: right average O line, a lot of Kamara, tons of

518
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 3: Taysom Hill. It was a really bad defensive performance.

519
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, two hundred and fourteen on the ground, two fifty

520
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: nine through the air. The Saints turned the ball over

521
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 2: twice and still beat them thirty five to fourteen. The

522
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: Browns didn't turn it over at all.

523
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 3: And Winston did put it in Harm's way a little bit.

524
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's the box sport doesn't quite add up,

525
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: you know, like they moved the football, they threw the

526
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: ball for a time and now you mentioned it don't

527
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 3: score any point. Here's the run.

528
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 2: So Nick Chubb is back last four games for the Browns,

529
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: seventy seven rushing yards in a game they lost by

530
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: seven to Cincinnati. He came back for the game against

531
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 2: the Ravens. I believe it was this is that was

532
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: his third game back. They had eighty rushing yards in

533
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: that game. They won that one twenty nine to twenty four. Okay,

534
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,479
Speaker 2: lost to the Chargers twenty seven to ten. They had

535
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: seventy nine rushing yards. Lost to the Saints thirty five

536
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: to fourteen. They had sixty six rushing yards and that

537
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: game didn't get away from them until the fourth quarter.

538
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: The Saints scored twenty one points in the fourth quarter.

539
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they still have a good pair of guards,

540
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 3: and posted the center is a decent player. You would

541
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: think they'd be a little more run oriented too. And

542
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, and I hope for his

543
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 3: sake because he hes got a root for eve though

544
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 3: he's a Brown. But Chubb is not close to the

545
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 3: player that you're used to seeing either. Maybe this is

546
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: a week he gets back.

547
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: I doubt it on a short week.

548
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: Really shocked. He averages three point one yards of carry

549
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: and that's just not who that player is. And then

550
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: Jerome Ford he out snapped Chubb forty one snaps to

551
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: twenty in that game. Yeah, and he ran twenty more

552
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 3: routes than Chubb. And I know, Chubb's not known as

553
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 3: a receiver and Ford is the better third down back

554
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 3: type of guy. But you're playing Jerome Ford forty one snaps,

555
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, it's a scary guy.

556
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: You know, here's the thing from behind a lot. But

557
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: how many snaps would you say? Chubb had twenty? Okay,

558
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: so he had eleven carries. He was on the field

559
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: for twenty snaps. So it's kind of a tell.

560
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, because Ford was out there for eight of the

561
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 3: nine third down snap.

562
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 2: Ford had five carries for ten yards.

563
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: Okay, So when Chubb was out there, he was getting

564
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: the ball.

565
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: He was getting the ball. Pierre Strong had two for five.

566
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 2: Typically after a game like that, it's a lot like

567
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna go say, hey, we're gonna make this a

568
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb game against the Steelers.

569
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't think good luck with that. So he averaged

570
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 3: over four four yards of carry. This was his most

571
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: efficient game. Yeah, but it was a lot of, you know,

572
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: not great stuff. No, there's not a lot of great

573
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: stuff coming out of Cleveland period right now. Yeah. I

574
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: mean they're in a bad spot. I mean, Winston's much

575
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 3: more fun and he's better than Watson, and their receivers

576
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: are okay, But I'd be really concerned if I was them,

577
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: considering their tackle situation this week, and it was going

578
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: to be a problem even if they were all healthy.

579
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: I mean, if it was Will's and Jones. I'd still

580
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 3: be in trouble with tackle against this group, But now

581
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't think either one plays. I think Conklin is back,

582
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: but he's fine, you know. And then you're trading pieces

583
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: too on defense and j Okay's heard I hate short

584
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: week in Cleveland on the road all that stuff. But

585
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: Browns aren't very good.

586
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 2: They are not. And their kicker, Dustin Hopkins, he missed too.

587
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: He missed two field goals. So every kicker in the

588
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: AFC North yesterday not named Chris Boswell missed two field.

589
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: Goals, missed multiple field goals.

590
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: Think about that.

591
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brown's been looking forever. Ravens have had one forever

592
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: and now looks like they might not.

593
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: He's no longer the most accurate kicker in the NFL. Yeah,

594
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: said that Eddie Pinero. It's been that bad a year

595
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: that he's lost that mantle. McPherson to me is a

596
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: little overrated too, Like he came in the league and

597
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: everyone thought he was great. He's he's an eighty percent

598
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: career kicker. Yeah, I looked at I just looked at that,

599
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: So I'm like, where's he at eighty percent? That's below

600
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: average in today's.

601
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 3: NFL BOZ from fifty is better than that. Yeah, fifty plus.

602
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: Boz from fifty plus in his career is now sixty

603
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: six percent. He makes two out of every three kicks

604
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: beyond Now he's been even better than that in recent.

605
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 3: Years, like I thought it was even better than that period.

606
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: Actually, if you look at it in his career, like

607
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, he's been ridiculous from fifty plus.

608
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you sent me something. He's thirty nine of his

609
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: last forty seven from the fifty plus, which is eighty

610
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: three percent.

611
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: Maybe that's maybe that's his career. I thought that was

612
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: that is his career. Yeah, thirty nine forty seven you're right, Yeah,

613
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: that's eighty three percent.

614
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 3: That's better than McPherson is from any all distances.

615
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: But if you just look at the last four years,

616
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: this is when they really Mike Tomlin in twenty twenty

617
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: one really started trusting him to get those kicks. He

618
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: had never had more than four attempts from beyond fifty

619
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: before before that year.

620
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: I remember early in his career, I never thought of

621
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 3: him as a booming leg guy.

622
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: He was four for four and twenty seventeen he made

623
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: the he was a Pro Bowl player that year, and

624
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: then after that not so much. Well, then in twenty

625
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: twenty one, Tomlin started using him more kind of coincided

626
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: when the offense was kind.

627
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: Of yeah, yeah, you define a weapon.

628
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he was eight and nine that year, seven

629
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: and nine from fifty and beyond in twenty twenty two,

630
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: six or seven last year, nine of ten, this.

631
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: Year, fifty and beyond. It's not even fifty a sixties.

632
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: It's probably a few sixties in there.

633
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: There are a couple of sixties because the one miss

634
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: last year, if you remember he made it was from

635
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: fifty seven yards or whatever it was, or fifty six

636
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: back up too, and they made him back up because

637
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: of five yards BS penalty on Sam Malu.

638
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that was last year. Huh yeah, that

639
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: was last year.

640
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: So, I mean, if you look at it, he's fifteen

641
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: twenty one, thirty of his last thirty three.

642
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: Wow, that's incredible.

643
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: Thirty four thirty of his last thirty four from fifty

644
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: and beyond.

645
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: What he's doing lately is really incredible.

646
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: He's thirty three years old. Now, you're not supposed to

647
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: get better with age, and.

648
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: He's more reliable with a bigger leg than ever. Yeah,

649
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: it seems to control is kickoffs really well too. There

650
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 3: was a lot he dropped like right at or right

651
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: in front of the goal line. I think on purpose. Oh,

652
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: there's no doubt it's on purpose. Yeah, he could kick

653
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: the ball through the end zone every time he wont

654
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: I'm sure sure. But I think they wanted to force

655
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: some returns here and there too.

656
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: And that actually works for them on one occasion, because

657
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: the thing is, yeah, you're going to give up maybe

658
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: a return here or there.

659
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: But it cause a fumble here and there too.

660
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: But you might cause a fumble, you might get a penalty.

661
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: The Steelers back the Ravens up on their one kickoff

662
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: yesterday they had a holding penalty or no, it was

663
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: blocking the back them against Matta Kaevich that pushed the

664
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: Ravens back to inside the ten.

665
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: I believe certainly not uncommon to have special teams penalties.

666
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: As a return team, Yeah no, I'm all four kicking

667
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: to them, and the return team seems really strong, or

668
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: the coverage team seems quite strong too, and the punt

669
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: coverage teams.

670
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: Really really unbelievable. He had playing ridiculously.

671
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 3: Seems like a million years ago, You're like, boy, they

672
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: don't have any gunners. Yeah, yeah, if they're fine there now.

673
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: So the last year, Boswell was twenty nine of thirty

674
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: one on field goal attempts. This year he is twenty

675
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: nine of thirty so he misses and fifty nine for

676
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: sixty one over the last two seasons.

677
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean it's remarkable. Then They're not all chip shots,

678
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: they're not all no short at all.

679
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: Fifteen out of seventeen on fifty plus, I mean been

680
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: really good.

681
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: Really good, like Hall of famoush good, you know, I

682
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: mean the best in the league. Good. That's where he's at.

683
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: Has what has happened to Tucker kind of damaged his

684
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: reputation a little bit?

685
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: I would say, if he comes back next year and

686
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: he's the Justin Tucker of old, no, because like bo

687
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: has had a year like that. Yeah, really that were

688
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: way subpar, that stand out. But if this is like

689
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: the beginning of the end, or frankly, if he retires

690
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: after the year, I would say, Okay, he knew when

691
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: to get out, you know. And I'm sure the Ravens

692
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: have to be in a sticky situation here.

693
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: They kind of are. And Harbaugh was asked about that

694
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: today says, no, Justin Tucker still our kicker.

695
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: He has to say that, yeah, and of course he

696
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: is still their kicker.

697
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: He said, they're not going to do tryouts or anything. Like.

698
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, Matt, and they shouldn't last three years.

699
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: Justin Tucker's field goal percentage eighty six two three years ago,

700
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: eighty six point five last year, seventy two point seven

701
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: this year.

702
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, eighty six isn't great.

703
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that's kind of a league average.

704
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: That's fine, that's not special. You know, this year is horrible.

705
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: Again if they're helly, he's got a groin injury, he's

706
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: got an ankle or something. Okay, I get it, but

707
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: it has to greatly affect now Harbaugh's way of thinking.

708
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: You know, I was talking about that with people yesterday

709
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: at the half. Yeah, like the Steelers are up, what

710
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: was it nine to seven at the time, but Tucker

711
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: had missed two field goal attempts to make up like

712
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: forty seven and.

713
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: Fifty yards turnovers.

714
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: These were not long field They're long field goals by

715
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: most standards, but not by today's standards. It's certainly not

716
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: by Tucker standards. Tucker in his career is sixty one

717
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: and ninety two from fifty plus. Now he's fine miss

718
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: lately four for his last twelve Wow, from beyond.

719
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: That's where you really have to consider it. Yeah, if

720
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: you're Harbaugh, I mean he used to be, but you

721
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: don't have to play call differently.

722
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen, when he kind of burst onto the scene,

723
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: he was ten to ten from fifty plus.

724
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: He was automatic. He was like Aubrey is now.

725
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, even twenty twenty one he was six

726
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: or six from beyond fifty yards. Twenty twenty two is

727
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: nine of fourteen. Last year one for five, this year

728
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: three for seven, And that used to be such a

729
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: weapon for them.

730
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And where I was going with originally about how

731
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: other and sticky situation is he's gonna be the kicker

732
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: the rest of the year. Yeah, he's earned that, you know,

733
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: and he definitely is. And that's fine, and Harbaugh and

734
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: coach accordingly, do I want to trot him out there

735
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: or not? I know, he's not as reliable, he's not

736
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: the player he once was. But then you go, well,

737
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: he's also one of the highest paid kickers in the league,

738
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: and he's not young, and he's been slowly declining and

739
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: then fell off like justin do you want to keep kicking?

740
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: If so, I don't know we can pay you this money.

741
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: I don't know that you can do it for the Ravens.

742
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: Do you want to end your career as somewhere else?

743
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: Somewhere else? Or should we put you in the ring

744
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: of honor and send you on your way and hang

745
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: it up and get on with your life's work.

746
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: You know this is your third team for him.

747
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been an amazing career, but it doesn't last forever.

748
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: No, it certainly does not. And and you know, you

749
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: wonder if that's not going to bite the Ravens.

750
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: Now, You wonder, right, because you know that's.

751
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: They get into a situation where they can either kick

752
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: a fifty five send Tucker out to kick a fifty

753
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: five yard field goal in the playoffs in the playoffs,

754
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: or do we go for it on fourth and seven

755
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: here exactly?

756
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: And now it's it never used to be a CAP's

757
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: now it's like, yeah, oh, there's a lot stronger case

758
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: for fourth and or from going forward and fourth and seven, yeah,

759
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: and fourth and seven is no gimme no, it's great offense, Yeah,

760
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: very much dilemma. Right, there's everything about it sticky because

761
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: his reputation and now he's.

762
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: Been yesterday, all the Steelers, i mean, Tomlin didn't hesitate

763
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: to send Boswell out there for was a fifty seven yarder, like, yeah,

764
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: send them out in.

765
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: The whole stadiums, like I'm writing to down you know

766
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: another another one, you know, yeah, but they need to

767
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: get better in the red zone, you know, and again,

768
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: thank goodness, he's the fifty.

769
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: Seven yarders are great. Yeah, this is kind of gravy,

770
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: but you don't want to have to kick the three shorties.

771
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: And he's bailing you out because what if he was

772
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 3: missing you know, five more this year like most kickers,

773
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Yeah, it'd be in

774
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 3: a lot worse shape.

775
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but uh yeah, he's done.

776
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 3: I mean there was a lot of aspects of yesterday's game,

777
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: but in a nutshell, maybe the shortest answer to why

778
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: the Steelers won is their kicker was better. Yeah, I

779
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: mean one was six or six and one missed two kicks,

780
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: which are turnovers.

781
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: Boswell in his career has actually had more seasons above

782
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: ninety percent on his kicks, making ninety percent or better

783
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: than justin Tucker. Really, I'm one two, three, four, five six.

784
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: Seven of his ten years he's been at ninety percent

785
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: or above.

786
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: One of them was an injury year. I don't remember

787
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: the other down years.

788
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: Two, three, four, five six, h Tucker has six seasons

789
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: out of thirteen where he's been at ninety or above.

790
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 3: Okay, and you said boz at seven six seven, No,

791
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: seven out of ten and he's got fewer seasons.

792
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, those those two bad seasons that he had seventy

793
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: one point four percent in twenty twenty two when he

794
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: was twenty at twenty eight and had a groin injury.

795
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: And then of course everybody remembers the the backle of

796
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: thirteen for twenty and twenty eighteen again a groin injury.

797
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: They both were injured related.

798
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, you take away one of those seasons, just one.

799
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: He's the most accurate kicker at all time. Then, right, yeah, so.

800
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: Kick three four more years, don't have another season like that.

801
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 3: He's made one Pro Bowl in his career, and that's

802
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: to change.

803
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: It should But then you look at Pro Football Focus

804
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: and Brandon Aubrey still got four point four points higher

805
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: than what Boswell is.

806
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: What's his kick? What's Aubrey at this year. I mean,

807
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: I know he's missed really good too. I mean he's

808
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: missed too, way too. Yeah, I tweeted this out earlier.

809
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: I do think he's the only one in competition right

810
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 3: now for bos So.

811
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: His his score on field goals is ninety five point zero.

812
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: This is our profoball focus. Yeah, this is a profoble.

813
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: I don't understand how you can great.

814
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: Boswell is second at ninety one point seven Boswell. They're

815
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: both nine of ten from beyond fifty yards. Boswell's missed

816
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: for from sixty two.

817
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

818
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: I think Aubrey's was from fifty three or something like that.

819
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. Seven to seven for Aubrey from forty

820
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: to forty nine yards, Boswell's five for five. Aubrey has

821
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: one of his other miss came from between thirty and

822
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: thirty nine yards, so he's four or five between thirty

823
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: and thirty nine yards Boswell seven of seven. Aubrey is

824
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: two for two from twenty to twenty nine yards and

825
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: Boswell's eight for eight, and neither one of them is

826
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: attempting anything between zero and nineteen yards because you'd have

827
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: to be in the one yard line. Basically to do that, and.

828
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: That's all I need to know. Bo Is had a

829
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 3: better year. But they're very similar. I mean, yeah, they're

830
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: both big time weapons and very consistent.

831
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Aubrey twenty two of twenty four overall, Boswell twenty

832
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: nine of thirty.

833
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 3: It still makes me crazy that how could he have

834
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: a better PF. I don't know why PFF.

835
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: I understand if they said he's slightly better. There's a

836
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: it's closer, boss. The next kicker up on that list

837
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: is closer to Boswell's score than Boswell is the Aubrey score.

838
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: I just don't know how you judge that.

839
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: Three point three percent is very difference there.

840
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you get half a point for hitting the upright,

841
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.

842
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: Your guess is as good as mine. And I actually

843
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: tweeted at because I tweeted this out today, took a

844
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: screenshot of their grades and tweeted at Pro Football Focus

845
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: to see if somebody would reply, no reply, And you

846
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: know they're reading it, right, I know they're reading it. Ye,

847
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: somebody there's reading it.

848
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: Somebody's reading it. Yeah. Anyway, Boswall has been amazing and

849
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: he's been the Steelers MVP right now. That's what I

850
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: was about to say. I mean, I think the answer

851
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: is no, but yes, you know, I'd rather replace him

852
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: than t J. Watt, you know, I mean obviously, but

853
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: nobody's been better, right, I mean, and they'd be it'd

854
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: still be in the hunt with with with an league

855
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 3: average kicker. Yeah, I think it's still being the hunt,

856
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: but they'd probably have more.

857
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: Losses, probably have maybe two more losses.

858
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah, I mean with a

859
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: league average kicker, maybe five more.

860
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: Misses, that's how good he's been.

861
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

862
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

863
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive. You're

864
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and now will be

865
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: back to finish up the show right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lollie and Matt Williamson on

867
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

869
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 2: Ed. We are back on Dale Lolly.

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00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson.

871
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: This is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network and Matt.

872
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 2: People are already starting to throw the T word around

873
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: Thursday nights game trap game.

874
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: This is a big trap game. Oh I think it's

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Speaker 3: a hard game. I mean circumstantial. I mean, if team

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00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: knows you well, your last division loss was against these guys, right,

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Speaker 3: I don't see the one game, the one division loss

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00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: you had last year was to this particular team. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean losing a division a trap game or letdown

880
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: game or Tomlin game. This is a game Tomlin always loses.

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00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: We'll hear that for the Oh I'm sure. Yeah, because

882
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: no one loses the teams that they're in their division,

883
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Speaker 3: in their division that they'll probably be favored against.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Falcons didn't lose to the Saints last week.

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Speaker 3: Right, they were a disaster. Right, Carolina has got some wins,

886
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it happens, I'll probably

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00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 3: pick the Steelers. I don't know, will you You know

888
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: I picked I guess them twice this year. I hate

889
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: that team, right, they can't can't can't convince me anything.

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Speaker 3: I just don't think the Browns are very good. I

891
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 3: mean I would be worried if this game's close late

892
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Speaker 3: in the game. Yeah. I always look at road teams,

893
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: especially coming off such a physical game that they just played,

894
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: being at major disadvantages as the game goes on. But

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Speaker 3: I was fiddling with some stats today, and the Browns

896
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: are the worst first half scoring team in the league

897
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Speaker 3: by far, just in terms of points they've produced. Steelers

898
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: are the best second half team in terms of points allowed.

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Speaker 3: So that doesn't mean it's gonna play out that way.

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00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: But if you can get up on these guys and

901
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: lean on them.

902
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: And run and run and run, a chance they might quit.

903
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna be thrilled about being there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

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00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 3: I believe that be true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Could the Steelers lose this game, absolutely, Like I said,

907
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: there was any game there won three and one in

908
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: their last five trips to Cleveland.

909
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Speaker 3: Let alone under these circumstances.

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Speaker 2: And you know we saw last year, for example, their

911
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: defense was much better at home than it was on

912
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Speaker 2: the road. I don't think that's quite the same.

913
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Speaker 3: It's not the glitz, and the defenses frankly is in

914
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 3: as good period or scary and is missing some pieces

915
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 3: at this point too. And I've been on the field

916
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Speaker 3: a lot this year and don't seem to be thrilled

917
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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 2: But the Browns are an NFL team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you think the Browns are going to get

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Speaker 3: up for Thursday night and Thursday night and demand embarrassed

921
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Speaker 3: all year, and you think you're going to get to

922
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Speaker 3: their best game. Probably probably so the Steelers, who they're

923
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: not real fond of either. You know, I would not

924
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Speaker 3: take this game for granted at all.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of times in these Thursday night games,

926
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Speaker 2: teams just we just got to play to the fundamentals here,

927
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: what do we do best? Because we don't have a

928
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Speaker 2: lot of time to study the opponent or put new

929
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Speaker 2: stuff in or try this or try that. We got

930
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Speaker 2: to go to our bread and butter.

931
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Speaker 3: And that's the NFL's excuse for why they'll put division

932
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Speaker 3: games on Thursday, which I don't agree with. I understand

933
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Speaker 3: the line of thinking.

934
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Speaker 2: The problem is these two teams know each other. If

935
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Speaker 2: there's a division opponents, they know each bother better than

936
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: the maybe the teams know themselves in many cases.

937
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Speaker 3: And again I understand that saying, okay that you guys

938
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Speaker 3: don't need as much prep time, but the games mean more,

939
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: you know, so there's more on the line. I always

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00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: think it should be AFC NFC as often as possible

941
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Speaker 3: on Thursday nights. Okay, you don't know each other, you

942
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: don't have time to prepare. But a loss doesn't kill

943
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 3: you as much as a division game.

944
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Speaker 2: Things might be really ugly though, if you did.

945
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Speaker 3: That Thursday and football in general kind of makes me

946
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: not great. I mean it's not great. The day of

947
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 3: eighteen weeks and two buys will be much better.

948
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe more overseas games and all that.

949
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but then I had more see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't dislike the overseas games, but I

951
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: you know, Thursday night games are not fun.

952
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Speaker 3: No, I just don't think it's high quality football or

953
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: super player safety oriented.

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Speaker 2: Can't disagree, Matt. That's going to do it for the

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Speaker 2: show today, all right, So we will be back again

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Speaker 2: tomorrow to continue previewing the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: You open the show. We got to get into brown

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Speaker 3: stuff before we got.

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Speaker 2: Right into it in the mirror. I mean we were

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Speaker 2: we had to have a meeting today about our matchup

961
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Speaker 2: show tomorrow on Thursday. Yeah, like I haven't had a chance.

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Speaker 2: I mean I was up last night writing and you know, recapping,

963
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: or I haven't dug into the Browns mouth. I've watched

964
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Speaker 2: them a couple of times.

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Speaker 3: Sure, and they're not the most difficult opponent to break

966
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Speaker 3: down at the moment either. By the way, but you

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Speaker 3: know we.

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Speaker 2: Will for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

969
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: on site running the Justin Miller Hotline, for Tyler Viittmeyer,

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Speaker 2: making sure our video gets out there on YouTube. I

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Speaker 2: am Dale Lollie. We thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 2: edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.