WEBVTT - Ep. 1056: Foundations - Problem-Based Thinking and The Big Buck Conundrum

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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<v Speaker 1>to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,

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<v Speaker 1>First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast

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<v Speaker 2>was brought to you by first Light. I'm heros Tony Peterson,

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<v Speaker 2>and today's episode is all about how we think about

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<v Speaker 2>big deer and why that often doesn't do us a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of good. Metacognitive thinking is a way of

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about our thinking. In other words, it's the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to examine our thoughts and beliefs and ask ourselves why

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<v Speaker 2>we have them, why we hold them, and what they

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<v Speaker 2>mean in the context of our lives. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>broad topic, but when you start using it in the

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<v Speaker 2>realm of deer hunting, you start realizing not only how

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<v Speaker 2>we are often our own worst enemies, but also why

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<v Speaker 2>so many of us never are rarely ever killed the

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<v Speaker 2>big deer that we all want to kill. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about that right now, and I hope it

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<v Speaker 2>helps you get into a place of looking at yourself

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<v Speaker 2>as a deer hunter in a whole new light. Truly

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<v Speaker 2>successful people tend to think about problems differently from people

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<v Speaker 2>who just aren't as successful. This goes for athletes, it's

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<v Speaker 2>relevant to business, it applies to relationships, and is generally

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<v Speaker 2>true in any facet of life that can be measured

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<v Speaker 2>through the lens of success. It works in deer hunting too,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not quite ready to get there yet. I

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<v Speaker 2>read a book recently that veered into the topic of

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about how we think, and it offered up an

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<v Speaker 2>example of how most people approach issues in their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>They view them through a problem based filter. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just say you can't afford to buy a house,

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<v Speaker 2>not an uncommon issue in today's world. A problem based

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<v Speaker 2>thinker will acknowledge that not only is housing more expensive

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<v Speaker 2>than it's ever been, which is pretty much true on

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<v Speaker 2>any given year no matter what, but they'll also focus

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<v Speaker 2>on why houses are more expensive. The value of the

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<v Speaker 2>dollar sucks. The market has gone bonkers, and real estate

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<v Speaker 2>prices are just out of whack when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>median incomes. Huge corporate entities bought up all the single

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<v Speaker 2>family homes and they're renting them out.

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<v Speaker 3>My boss doesn't recognize my.

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<v Speaker 2>Work, so I'll never get paid enough to afford a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty year loan at six percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Any one of these things might be true, or they

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<v Speaker 3>might all be true.

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<v Speaker 2>But what's also true is that if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>it as a huge, unsolvable problem, it will go unsolved.

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<v Speaker 2>A solution based approach questions what would need to be

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<v Speaker 2>done to be able to put twenty percent down and

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<v Speaker 2>safely sign your John Hancock to those mortgage papers? The

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<v Speaker 2>dollar has been devalued, how do I get more of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Real estate prices right here are just out of touch

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<v Speaker 2>with reality. But where are they more in line with

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<v Speaker 2>my potential budget? Can I move to one of those

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<v Speaker 2>places and find a job? What can I actively do

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<v Speaker 2>to change my position in life to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>be a first time home buyer? Now, look, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that buying a house is as easy as changing

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<v Speaker 2>how you think, but changing how you think will help

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<v Speaker 2>you approach problems with solutions, not just an acknowledgment of

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<v Speaker 2>the issues that coalesced to create the problem in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place. Let's plug this into the deer world for

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<v Speaker 2>a second and use an easy example. If you talk

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<v Speaker 2>to enough deer hunters across the country. You hear people

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<v Speaker 2>say something like this, here in Texas, we don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any public land, so it's not worth even trying, or

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Here in Nebraska, the non residents in

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<v Speaker 2>the early rifle season causes all the up and coming

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<v Speaker 2>two and three year olds to get shot before they

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<v Speaker 2>are mature. If the problem for a Texas hunter is

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<v Speaker 2>finding land to hunt, and they believe that there isn't

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<v Speaker 2>any public land, then they just need to knock on

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<v Speaker 2>doors or find a lease. But everyone knows that leasing

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<v Speaker 2>is expensive and knocking on doors is a lost cause.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a done deal that that person will never

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<v Speaker 2>have a place to hunt hunt, except that Texas has

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<v Speaker 2>like two million acres of public land, and a better

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<v Speaker 2>move would be to acknowledge that, figure out how to

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<v Speaker 2>hunt it, and then go That Nebraska hunter wants an

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<v Speaker 2>excuse to not kill mature bucks, and by Gottley, he

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<v Speaker 2>has found it. After all, how can you, as one

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<v Speaker 2>lowly residence stop the flow a non residence, You can't,

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<v Speaker 2>just like you can't move the gun season out of

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<v Speaker 2>the rut just because you want to. Of course, not

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<v Speaker 2>too many years ago in Nebraska, win Ahead limited non

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<v Speaker 2>residence anyway, which should be a win for that hunter,

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<v Speaker 2>But there's still that issue of the rifle season time,

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<v Speaker 2>still a good problem to have to keep you from

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<v Speaker 2>killing big bucks. A different way to look at it

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<v Speaker 2>would be I see pictures all the time of people

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<v Speaker 2>killing big bucks in my home state, but I can't

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<v Speaker 2>do it. It's clearly possible. It's also clearly true that some

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<v Speaker 2>bucks reach maturity, because well, they just do, and the

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<v Speaker 2>evidence is everywhere. So a better question to ask himself

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<v Speaker 2>is if they can do it, why can't I? What

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<v Speaker 2>am mine not doing?

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<v Speaker 1>That?

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<v Speaker 3>They are the default.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem based thinker would go to on this is

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<v Speaker 2>to say, well, I don't have access to that really

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<v Speaker 2>good land, and you know my job is super busy,

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<v Speaker 2>so I only get an a few nights a season whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of looking for how to be more successful, he's

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<v Speaker 2>finding more reasons to explain why he's not successful. But

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<v Speaker 2>some non resident with four days of PTO in total

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<v Speaker 2>can drive to Nebraska and kill a mature buck on

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<v Speaker 2>public land. And I know this because not only have

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<v Speaker 2>I done it, but so have a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>The issue isn't you know that there aren't any big bucks?

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<v Speaker 2>On public land or private land for that matter, anymore

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<v Speaker 2>than it is due entirely to the amount of time

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<v Speaker 2>and an individual gets to put into hunting. There are solutions

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<v Speaker 2>to everything, but we often don't look for them. A

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<v Speaker 2>metacognitive person would look first not at what the problem

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<v Speaker 2>really is and what the solve is, but why they

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<v Speaker 2>believe that the problem exists in the first place. They

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<v Speaker 2>would examine their own thinking and going, so, why do

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that there are no mature bucks out there?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it because I never kill them or worse, never

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<v Speaker 2>see them while I'm hunting? If the latter is the

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<v Speaker 2>most important contributor to that belief, what's the solve?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>To keep hunting the same way as I always do.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think about how you think about things, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't help but learn if something isn't working and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't change your approach, it will pretty much I always

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<v Speaker 2>just not work. I would say that almost every deer

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<v Speaker 2>hunter in my life thinks this way, and I did

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<v Speaker 2>too for a long, long long time. A good way

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<v Speaker 2>to frame this up is this. Let's say you hunt

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<v Speaker 2>ten days a season and you never kill bucks over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty five inches, which is your goal.

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<v Speaker 2>An easy way to address that is to say I

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<v Speaker 2>need to spend twenty days a season hunting. It's only

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of time. But a metacognitive approach would be

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<v Speaker 2>more like, I'm putting in enough time to at least

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<v Speaker 2>see one, but I'm not. I'm not making progress. So

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<v Speaker 2>is it the amount of time I'm spending, or is

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<v Speaker 2>it where I'm spending my time? Or is it my

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<v Speaker 2>effort with the time I do spend out there. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it gets a little muddy. It's not just a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of more time, or at least it's often not that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's generally a matter of where and when that

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<v Speaker 2>time is put in and how that time is used.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, if you spend every sit in the same

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<v Speaker 2>stand on the edge of a cornfield all season, your

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<v Speaker 2>problem could be solved by sitting a few more, just

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<v Speaker 2>different spots. But instead of that, we often ignore the

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<v Speaker 2>reality you know, of bucks fighting and buck to dough

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<v Speaker 2>ratios and decide that the solution is to rattle in

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<v Speaker 2>that spot we want to hunt. But you'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>ask yourself why you believe that what's going to work

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<v Speaker 2>when you've never rattled in a buck in your life,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone ever seen two bucks really fight in person?

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you believe that is the solve for your

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<v Speaker 2>problems over some other tactics. Likely because it's so easy

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<v Speaker 2>to spend most of our energy focusing on what's wrong

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<v Speaker 2>instead of acknowledging the problem and then being honest on

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<v Speaker 2>how to fix it through a series of different actions. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't about ignoring problems, because that doesn't work at all,

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<v Speaker 2>pretending problems don't exist. It's probably why we have a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent divorce rate in this country. Solution based thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't change the problem, but it changes the questions

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<v Speaker 2>we ask ourselves about the problem. Instead of saying, why

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<v Speaker 2>is this happening to me? In reference to eating tag

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<v Speaker 2>soup again versus saying I don't know what factors contribute

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<v Speaker 2>to my crappy performance and which ones can I influence

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<v Speaker 2>for a more positive outcome, Maybe a better one is

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<v Speaker 2>instead of saying who's to blame, say what needs to

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<v Speaker 2>happen next. The thing about us pesky humans is that

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<v Speaker 2>we often know what we need to do, but we

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<v Speaker 2>also just don't do those things. We should shoot arrows

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<v Speaker 2>every week of the year, but we don't because we

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<v Speaker 2>just don't. We should scout more, but we don't because well,

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<v Speaker 2>we just don't. We have to put into practice what

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<v Speaker 2>we know will help us, but that's really hard. Because

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<v Speaker 2>we are creatures of habitat. We have definitive patterns to

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<v Speaker 2>our behaviors that we generally aren't willing to change. This

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<v Speaker 2>is why most hunters don't kill big bucks, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to put that any other way. It's

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<v Speaker 2>also true that most hunters won't look for active solutions

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<v Speaker 2>to their problems and will instead dwell on those problems

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<v Speaker 2>and use them as the guiding force in their hunting decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to kill big bucks, a huge step

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<v Speaker 2>in the right direction is to actively try not to

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<v Speaker 2>think like the average hunter. Where this gets wonky is

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<v Speaker 2>that most hunters believe that there is a way to

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<v Speaker 2>think about deer and big bucks specifically that will reveal

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<v Speaker 2>some truth on how to kill them in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that capitalizes on weaknesses in a buck's game. If only

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<v Speaker 2>I understood buck betting as well as this guy, or

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<v Speaker 2>I understood the early season game as much as this

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<v Speaker 2>super successful fella. That's great, and learning about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>buck betting and early season hunting will help you be

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<v Speaker 2>a better hunter. But those hunters didn't become bed hunting

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<v Speaker 2>experts or early season hunting experts by just thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>those things as problems. They thought about them in a

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<v Speaker 2>way that led them to try to find solutions. If

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know much about buck betting, the strategy won't

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly be totally understandable and actionable because someone tells you how.

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<v Speaker 3>They do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That might not hurt, But we have to ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>is how can I learn more about this to implement

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<v Speaker 2>it into my hunting strategy. There are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>solutions here. You can scout more at all times of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. That's an easy one. And if you scout

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<v Speaker 2>to locate beds and then try to figure out why

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<v Speaker 2>beds are where they are in January and then in July,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be better off for it. If you

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<v Speaker 2>run a whole bunch of cameras and start paying attention

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<v Speaker 2>to where the bucks go in the morning and where

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<v Speaker 2>they come from in the evening, you can start to

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<v Speaker 2>understand what betting behavior is happening during the day, different

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<v Speaker 2>types of the year and during different conditions. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>is buck betting is often a mystery, but the solution

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<v Speaker 2>isn't to just declare it unknowable and then never put

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<v Speaker 2>in any efforts of figuring out what's really going on. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>there are lots of actions you can take to start

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<v Speaker 2>to get a better handle on not only where bucks

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<v Speaker 2>bet and when, but how you can more accurately predict

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<v Speaker 2>buck betting behavior. Let's use another one that has come

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<v Speaker 2>across my radar a lot lately.

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<v Speaker 3>Wind.

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<v Speaker 2>I've written and talked about wind a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>my life, but I still hear folks say that bucks

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<v Speaker 2>won't move when it's windy. There's nothing in the deer

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<v Speaker 2>research that supports this, and there is nothing in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, anecdotally that supports this, because it's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Bucks do move when it's windy, because they have to. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at a windy forecast solely through the

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<v Speaker 2>lens of that being a problem that will suppress buck movement,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the action you take?

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<v Speaker 3>Not go hunting.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, that's an easy one, and it'll protect you

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<v Speaker 2>from learning the truth. Now, if you look at high

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<v Speaker 2>winds as a reason for bucks not to move, and

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<v Speaker 2>you do go hunting anyway, what are the odds you

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<v Speaker 2>put in max effort? Again, how you're thinking about this

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<v Speaker 2>very common factor in hunting influences heavily how you approach hunting. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's say you have that windy forecast and instead of saying, well, shit,

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<v Speaker 2>this sucks now the bucks won't be moving and it

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<v Speaker 2>won't be worth hunting, you say that wind is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be smoking from the northwest for a few days.

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<v Speaker 2>How do I find deer in this near tornado level weather?

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<v Speaker 2>The first solve is to sit somewhere where a northwest

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<v Speaker 2>wind is good for you and not so good for

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<v Speaker 2>the deer. But maybe you want to go deeper, and

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<v Speaker 2>you say, if I were a deer that had to

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<v Speaker 2>live out here.

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<v Speaker 3>What would I do in this wind?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe bed on a ridge with a stout wind at

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<v Speaker 2>my backs and no predators can sneak up on me

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<v Speaker 2>from behind. Or maybe it's October and the acorns have

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<v Speaker 2>been drying up a little, but that wind comes in,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you were a deer that was really trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pack on the pounds before the rut hits, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>go work through an oak ridge and check some of

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<v Speaker 2>the trees that were hot for a few weeks earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the month. Maybe that wind is just the dinner

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<v Speaker 2>bell ringing when it comes to hard masks or soft mass.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of declaring all of the deer down for the

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<v Speaker 2>count when the wind is blowing, ask yourself why you

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<v Speaker 2>believe they won't move in the wind. If you still

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<v Speaker 2>believe that to be true, ask yourself if that's the

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<v Speaker 2>same in Kansas as it would be in, say, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, Pennsylvania or Georgia. Then ask yourself if that

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<v Speaker 2>were also true, would it still be true on November

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<v Speaker 2>seventh in southern Iowa? Or would you think that the

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<v Speaker 2>rut would be enough to get those bucks cruising even

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<v Speaker 2>with sustain thirty mile per hour winds. If we can

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<v Speaker 2>get beyond what we believe to think about why we

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<v Speaker 2>believe what we believe, as muddy as that sounds, and

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<v Speaker 2>we try to figure out ways in which we might

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<v Speaker 2>be wrong, we put ourselves on the path to learning

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<v Speaker 2>how to actually be right about these things. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a hard thing to do. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>sit here and tell you I've mastered thinking, because I

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<v Speaker 2>can be as pessimistic as the next guy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can find a lot of problems to dwell on. Believe me,

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<v Speaker 2>I can find someone to blame for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things in my life that aren't going the way I

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<v Speaker 2>want them to as well. I don't know if there

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<v Speaker 2>is anything easier for me than to point the finger

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<v Speaker 2>outward before taking a look inward. But it's also true

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<v Speaker 2>for me that, at least in the realm of deer hunting,

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<v Speaker 2>I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how to kill deer when on paper, it's a better

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<v Speaker 2>time to stay out of the woods. And what I

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<v Speaker 2>found that it's mostly in my head when I decide

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<v Speaker 2>that there is an unsolvable deer problem out there. I

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<v Speaker 2>firmly believe that most deer hunters would be better off

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<v Speaker 2>to approach this thing with the attitude that they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to hunt when they can, and because of that, they

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<v Speaker 2>need to try to solve for the issues at hand

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<v Speaker 2>with each sit in the best way possible. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>a great way to do that would be to think

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<v Speaker 2>about what you'd have to do if you didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>any calls or sense or lures or decoys or anything

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<v Speaker 2>extra like that. If you just had to hunt, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>with a mobile set up, maybe on the ground, and

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't have that box blind on the food plot

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<v Speaker 2>or that go to grunt, call to lean on. How

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<v Speaker 2>would you set up to be close to deer in

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<v Speaker 2>September or October or November or whenever. What would you

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<v Speaker 2>do if you didn't have any crutches but you really

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<v Speaker 2>needed to get in range of a deer? How would

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<v Speaker 2>you hunt if you needed to kill a big one

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<v Speaker 2>to feed your family because there was no other protein available.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you go sit the same field a stand over

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<v Speaker 2>and over because it's easy, or would you try to

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<v Speaker 2>think about the deer and how you think about the

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<v Speaker 2>deer and come up with an actionable plan that would

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<v Speaker 2>put you in a position to learn and learn until

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<v Speaker 2>you got it right.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet you do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And while that part would take work and action, it

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't come without thinking about the best options for solutions

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<v Speaker 2>given your hunting situation. Mull on that because the truth

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<v Speaker 2>of how we can all kill big bucks exists out

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<v Speaker 2>there in the woods, and it's a matter of how

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<v Speaker 2>we plug ourselves into all that nature over and over

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<v Speaker 2>until we just get it right. Think solutions, my friends,

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<v Speaker 2>not just problems, and come back next week because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to keep talking about our favorite game animals and

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<v Speaker 2>why it's so dang hard to hunt them Sometimes. That's

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<v Speaker 2>it for this week. I'm Tony Peterson. This has been

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