WEBVTT - 409 | Top 10 Team Outfields for 2023

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<v Speaker 1>There's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Stage La Packer Bray Ship.

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<v Speaker 1>We will sue you's the Gorner Welcome to one hang out.

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<v Speaker 2>The week on the Just Baseball Show Top ten Team Outfield.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a whole bunch to get to this week.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a World Baseball Classic preview and prediction episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter is going to be back to drop his I

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<v Speaker 2>guess picked to win and probably pick to make it

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<v Speaker 2>out of each pool. But me, Jack him Arum are

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<v Speaker 2>taking you through Team Outfields here on Monday, March sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>First and foremost, I've never understood the whole Royal family thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see my tweet on Sunday morning? William and

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<v Speaker 2>Kate were at a spin class in like a suit

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<v Speaker 2>and address and they had like a quick twenty second

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<v Speaker 2>race and it made Reuters like it made global news

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a video of it and then the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the spin class had to clap after the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty second race. It was the dumbest shit I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>And Clay Snowden, one of our writers, made a great

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<v Speaker 2>comment about it. He was like, Americans know way too

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<v Speaker 2>much about celebrities, Like what if we knew less? And

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<v Speaker 2>my thought is, yes, you're not helping, not helping, but

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<v Speaker 2>what do we do about the Royal Family? Because like,

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<v Speaker 2>what do.

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<v Speaker 3>You ignore them? That's what I do. I legitimately don't

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<v Speaker 3>even like the names that you just mentioned. If you

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<v Speaker 3>gave me a lineup of faces, I would not be

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<v Speaker 3>able to line them up. I'm not kidding. South Mark

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<v Speaker 3>actually just had a great episode on on the Royal

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<v Speaker 3>Family and in that situation, which was really really funny,

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<v Speaker 3>so I would I would recommend checking that out. But

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<v Speaker 3>now I I it's one of my biggest pet peeves

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<v Speaker 3>on earth that specifically not a reality TV guy, not

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<v Speaker 3>a Royal Family guy, And yeah, I'm checked out. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't I don't pay attention whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>I eat up a good season of the Bachelor, and

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<v Speaker 2>like I eat up my numbing television.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't judge that. I don't judge that. That's that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's some good mind numbing stuff to like just unplug

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<v Speaker 3>and change it up. I'm okay with that, But I

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<v Speaker 3>draw the line at like inside Edition, let me keep

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<v Speaker 3>up with what every celebrity is doing and just like

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<v Speaker 3>make their lives feel miserable because they have no privacy.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're not a keeping up with the Kardashians person,

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<v Speaker 2>I assume hell no, okay me neither me neither. I

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<v Speaker 2>think my thing with the Royal family is like I

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<v Speaker 2>care so little about them that I want to know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on because I think it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I yeah, I just I don't even get it. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't what do they do? They just get money for

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<v Speaker 3>I think so like Royal I don't. I don't don't

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<v Speaker 3>understand that that's thing anymore. It's twenty twenty thirty, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you see a separate government that like actually makes decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>They just know they have a prime minister, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>forget it, move off. Are a baseball time? Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna talk about team outfields before that. A couple

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<v Speaker 2>of a couple of overreactions from spring training come from

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa and Cincinnati. Cincinnati Ellie de la Cruz with a

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<v Speaker 2>triple in a nuke Christian and karnassion Strand with what

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<v Speaker 2>a four hundred and forty foot home run? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>all the way pot in on that or what? I like?

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<v Speaker 3>I am? And I'm not like, I know he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to hit for a ton of power. I'm just worried

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<v Speaker 3>about like the hit tools and everyday player Uh, we

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<v Speaker 3>know he can do that. You know, so Red's prospects,

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<v Speaker 3>Christian and karnassion Strand he's gonna hit you your tape

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<v Speaker 3>measure shots. It's just can you catch up to vll Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got a little bit of a pushy swin, which

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna make Vello a little bit difficult. But man,

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<v Speaker 3>when he gets into one, he gets into one. Speaking

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<v Speaker 3>of which, I just went to my first spring training game.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a blast. It was a blast just to

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<v Speaker 3>be at the field. The game itself kind of sucked.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Marlins, Mets, Mark Vientos put on a show.

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<v Speaker 3>And actually, I'm glad you brought up spring training real quick,

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<v Speaker 3>because how about all of these youngsters, Man, Like, these

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<v Speaker 3>aren't just the youngsters coming in against other youngsters. Curtis

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<v Speaker 3>mead multi home run game is Ray Raise prospect, Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Vianto's Mets prospect, multi home run game, Jordan freaking Walker

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<v Speaker 3>basically almost it for the cycle. That's, of course, the

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<v Speaker 3>Cardinals prospect. We're going to talk about all these guys

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<v Speaker 3>in detail on the call up, but all of these

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<v Speaker 3>guys pertain to the Just Baseball Show because they're making

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<v Speaker 3>their damn case to be in the opening day lineup.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think that Vientos is just because of

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<v Speaker 3>the roster. I don't think that Meat is because of

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<v Speaker 3>the rays. And I don't think that Walker should be

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<v Speaker 3>because he has not played in Triple A yet and

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<v Speaker 3>still needs to get his he wet in the outfield.

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<v Speaker 3>But shit, man, Walker keeps doing this, I might have

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<v Speaker 3>to put my hands up and just say, hey, just

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<v Speaker 3>throw him out there. He's swinging it too well. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of funny because he would fit into this

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<v Speaker 3>Cardinals outfield, which we will be talking about in this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just wanted to mention all the youngsters swinging

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<v Speaker 3>it and spring training so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. My other overreaction was TODJ. Bradley looked great again

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<v Speaker 2>for Tampa in the same game that Need had a

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<v Speaker 2>multi homer day, So the youth is there. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Taj Bradley is good enough to be in that opening

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<v Speaker 2>day rotation, even though he will likely not be because

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<v Speaker 2>they're so crowded. If Glassnow is hurt, he could be

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<v Speaker 2>making a case for it. But I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>how severe Glassnow's issue is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the thing with Taj is this splitter. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the big X factor. And again we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about him when we start breaking down the top one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred prospect lists should be out soon. But if his

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<v Speaker 3>splitter is semi consistent, because his slider, you and I

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<v Speaker 3>have seen it, it's phenomenal. The fast fall is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>If the splitter is just semi consistent, this guy is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a problem. And guess what, Jack, It's

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<v Speaker 3>been pretty consistent in spring training and look at what

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<v Speaker 3>he's done. So man, if the Rays kind of get

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<v Speaker 3>him right, that's a perfect guy to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>plug into that rotation. And I would love I would

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<v Speaker 3>love to see him starting triple ultimately too, just another

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<v Speaker 3>guy just like make a few starts in triple, which

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<v Speaker 3>is weird. I feel like I'm I'm I'm perpetuating service

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<v Speaker 3>time manipulation here. But I just I like seeing guys

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<v Speaker 3>like come into the big leagues hot, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of ride that wave in hot instead of like go

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<v Speaker 3>sink or swim. See how you do. But yeah, my

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<v Speaker 3>overreaction is going to be Mark Fianto should be their DH,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, or at least their left handed mashing DH

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<v Speaker 3>the Darren rough roll right away. I think he can

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<v Speaker 3>be better than Rough from day one. I know they

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<v Speaker 3>gave up some decent pieces for Rough, so they don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to just you know, relegate him into the but

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<v Speaker 3>I think Mark Vanto can be a better option right away.

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<v Speaker 3>He took some freak swings at that game. He tomahawked

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<v Speaker 3>one up and then also hit a really nice put

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<v Speaker 3>a nice swing on a Dylan Floro you know, breaking ball,

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<v Speaker 3>which you know, again this is I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that can really produce for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Vanzos, Yeah, I was just on on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just on Chatterbox Reds with Nick Kirby, who

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<v Speaker 2>obviously does great work in Cincinnati, and you and I

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<v Speaker 2>both know him and have read his stuff, has listened

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<v Speaker 2>to his stuff, and Nick I kind of explained my

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<v Speaker 2>thought process in regards to Christian and Karnacion strength because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously he's kicking tail right now, He's kicking ass, said

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<v Speaker 2>would he make sense on the opening day roster and

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<v Speaker 2>I said no, because he I wanted to see him

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<v Speaker 2>get comfortable and double, and then get comfortable and triple

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<v Speaker 2>because my overwhelming prospect thought is in terms of hitters,

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<v Speaker 2>the moment they get comfortable at a level, I think

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<v Speaker 2>is when you can move him up. But I got

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<v Speaker 2>to see him get comfortable and succeed at each level

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<v Speaker 2>as post to arms, where like, if you look great

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<v Speaker 2>for four starts, just go up to the next one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I agree with that too, especially.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the conversation changes with Jordan Walker because

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<v Speaker 2>he's the He might be the best power hitting prospect

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<v Speaker 2>in baseball. Yeah, he might be making his push for

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<v Speaker 2>best hitting prospect in baseball, like not all around best

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<v Speaker 2>offensive prospect in the game. If he continues to do

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<v Speaker 2>what he's doing right now, it's hard not to put

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<v Speaker 2>him on the opening day roster.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to force their hand if he keeps doing

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<v Speaker 3>what he's doing it. And we've seen more teams push

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<v Speaker 3>guys up from double, you know, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>something that Walker looks like he could be ready. Uh

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<v Speaker 3>you know. The one thing for him is the sliders.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe give him a little bit of trouble last year,

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<v Speaker 3>but it looks like he's already making those adjustments. He

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<v Speaker 3>didn't go yard off of some you know, random minor

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<v Speaker 3>league filling guys. He went yard off of Josiah Gray,

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<v Speaker 3>which I know a lot of people did. But then

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<v Speaker 3>he went yard off of a couple other big league

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<v Speaker 3>arms in that game, and he's continued to just mash

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<v Speaker 3>against big leaguers, so I think that's something to really

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<v Speaker 3>look at. My concern is the defense, But if you're

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<v Speaker 3>hitting like that, who cares, and I think the defense

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<v Speaker 3>will come along. But he could also kind of rotate

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<v Speaker 3>in the DH roll or whatever. So I'm interested to

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<v Speaker 3>see what they do. But Walker, if he keeps doing this,

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to force their hand and people are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be clamoring for him on the opening day roster,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think we're already starting to see that momentum

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<v Speaker 3>build a little bit. The one thing within karnasil streand

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<v Speaker 3>real quick chasing way too much that that's something that'll

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<v Speaker 3>get exposed more at the big, big level. I'd love

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<v Speaker 3>to see him just show an improvement with the approach

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<v Speaker 3>and double especially triple A where guys have better command,

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<v Speaker 3>and then send him up there. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 3>different case. Walker might be forcing the hand here for

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<v Speaker 3>the Cardinals that said we're gonna talk about the outfield,

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<v Speaker 3>where does he fit in? Obviously, once he's ready, you

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<v Speaker 3>move somebody, because he's Jordan freaking Walker. But they've got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot going on out there, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>moving parts that I'm really interested. And that's why it's

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<v Speaker 3>so surprising that they haven't traded from some of this surplus.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, we'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother. The answer may be dh with Yepez, you move

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<v Speaker 2>Yepez out of the dh roll, and it's just Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Walker's to lose. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I love yet Best too, though, I know, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Walker. Yet Best could be really special, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan Walker. Yeah, Best could be special?

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<v Speaker 2>Could yepes be Jordan Walker.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he could be better than Jordan Walker for

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<v Speaker 3>the first half of this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, that's fair. Through twenty at bats, Walker's hitting

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<v Speaker 2>four point fifty with three homers. So yeah, Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>he continues this, you make space.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you gotta know, you can't. You literally cannot. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they should legitimately put him in situations where he

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<v Speaker 3>is expected to fail, so that they could say, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>here you struggled against Verlander. But or if he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>you ont off Verlander, You're like, all right, here, we

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<v Speaker 3>gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to be able to point to it like

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<v Speaker 2>an arbitration hearings, Right, It's like this is what you

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<v Speaker 2>did poorly this spring and this set, how you're not

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<v Speaker 2>on these.

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<v Speaker 3>Just sink or swim in the toughest spots. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're going to do that. I think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be at the top of the order for them throughout

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<v Speaker 3>the spring and they're gonna say struggle or if you can,

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<v Speaker 3>if you can survive the final boss here, yeah, then

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<v Speaker 3>there you go. You're good to go. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's something he can rise to.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that lineup too. Nuke Bar's playing for Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>Edmond's playing for Korea, Goldschmidt and Aeronado were playing for US. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a spot for Jordan Walker in the lineup every day.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's going to be seeing a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>best arms because guess what, a lot of the best

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<v Speaker 2>American arms, a lot of the best Dominican arms are

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<v Speaker 2>not pitching for the US or the Dominican.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep, correct, So it should be fun. That's that's

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<v Speaker 3>definitely got to follow closely the rest of spring training.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. All right, outfields, We've got three honorable mentions, and

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<v Speaker 2>then of course the top ten, the two that we

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<v Speaker 2>left off San Francisco and Minnesota Minnesota. Is Gallo, Buxton

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<v Speaker 2>and Kepler Buckston obviously greats. Can't say on the field, Gallo,

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<v Speaker 2>they figured out a way to shift against him.

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<v Speaker 3>Boom, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny, like they're royally fucked if he hits

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<v Speaker 2>the ball to left field. But chances are he's not

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<v Speaker 2>hitting the ball to left field.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, I think he can, Like, I think he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to figure that out. And for those who didn't see it,

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<v Speaker 3>they legit put two outfielders in left and right. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 3>they put.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody in shallow right, and they had the center fielder

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<v Speaker 2>in the right field are pretty much playing straight up

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<v Speaker 2>the right fielder towards the line a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>So there was like five hundred square feet of open

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<v Speaker 3>space basically and in left and left center field, and

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<v Speaker 3>like he could pop up into left field. Expected batting

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<v Speaker 3>average of zero and it's gonna fall for a double triple.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really interested to see how this goes, because I

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<v Speaker 3>think that Joey Gallo is capable of inside outing a

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<v Speaker 3>pop up. The problem with the shift was those wouldn't play.

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<v Speaker 3>You still had to hit the ball hard somewhere to

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<v Speaker 3>fall because you had to hit it into the outfield

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<v Speaker 3>hard because you had three outfielders. Still, the hard part

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<v Speaker 3>was sneaking it through the infield. Regardless. Joey Gallo is

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<v Speaker 3>is not a guy that we're you know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>expecting to be much more than a slightly above replacement

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<v Speaker 3>level player. So it's hard to put that outfield above

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<v Speaker 3>that said, healthy bust In, some of the young guys

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<v Speaker 3>performing that Kepler is underrated. If Warnick or somebody else

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<v Speaker 3>kind of fits in here and can contribute, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>it could be a good outfield, but it's just not

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<v Speaker 3>proven enough and too many I think too much variants,

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<v Speaker 3>even with their best player in Buxton and Center to

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<v Speaker 3>put them in the top ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can't or even in the honorable mentions, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they might be Fifteen fourteen is San Francisco. And the

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<v Speaker 2>way we went about this, and you can follow along

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<v Speaker 2>the write up it's on just Baseball dot com. It's

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<v Speaker 2>also in the episode description. And the way we did

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<v Speaker 2>this is the projected starting outfielders are the three projected

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<v Speaker 2>outfielders on fangrafts, but of course we're gonna mention the

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<v Speaker 2>others that could factor in. San Francisco is the other

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<v Speaker 2>like just missed, and that is Confordo, mikeys Streemsky, Mitch

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<v Speaker 2>Hanneger and Jock Peterson has slated as like the opening

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<v Speaker 2>day d H Right now, Conforto, I don't want anybody

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<v Speaker 2>just banking on him being good. He missed an entire

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<v Speaker 2>year of baseball more more.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, and since the last time he's played, it's been

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<v Speaker 3>how long, I mean, how many days do you think

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<v Speaker 3>since the last time he played an actual Major league

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<v Speaker 3>baseball game.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the Jonathan Isaac thing, Like he's been gone

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<v Speaker 2>for a really long time, So we.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know how his body's going to react. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how It's been a long long time. So we'll

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<v Speaker 3>see and and remember like this is a guy that

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<v Speaker 3>we saw a lot of players impacted by the shortened

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty season. He plays twenty twenty one, one hundred twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five games after that, like, we'll see how he does.

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<v Speaker 3>But that said, he wasn't doing that well too, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like twenty twenty one was a bad season for him.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the Canfordo pickup. I think he can be good.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was a good deal for the Giants,

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<v Speaker 3>but we can't bank on him. I agree he can't

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<v Speaker 3>bank on him being anything more than a one and

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<v Speaker 3>a half two win guy. I think he can very

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<v Speaker 3>easily be better than that, but a bank on that

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<v Speaker 3>would be would be malpractice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one hundred percent. And Hanneger is good. We both

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<v Speaker 2>like Hanneger. Mikeystremsky is solid, but they're they're not top fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. And our three honorable mentions are Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago White Sox, and the LA Dodgers. Start with the Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>As of right now, it's Corbyn Carroll, Alec Thomas, Jake McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Lordus Gurriel as the DH type. This is

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<v Speaker 2>an outfield that could be really good or could be

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<v Speaker 2>underwhelming for our expectations, like Alec Thomas got optioned at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of last year, but we also think Alec

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas can be great, and we think Corbyn Carroll can

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<v Speaker 2>be a six win player. But he also may sputter

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<v Speaker 2>that there is a whole bunch of deviation available for

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<v Speaker 2>the Arizona Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 3>I would I could make a case. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>they could be higher because while there is uh like,

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<v Speaker 3>there is deviation there. Like you said, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>this outfield is capable of being bad because even if

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<v Speaker 3>they're not hitting, they're gonna defend and they're gonna run,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're gonna put the ball in play enough, Like

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<v Speaker 3>even Alec Thomas last year, but where he was just

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<v Speaker 3>not hitting, I know they sent him down. I think

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<v Speaker 3>there was more to that. I don't totally know why,

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<v Speaker 3>but like even being lost out there and not playing well,

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<v Speaker 3>like he still was above replacement level, which is saying

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<v Speaker 3>a lot because he was really not hitting for them

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<v Speaker 3>at all. I look at a Jake McCarthy, great defender,

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna steal bag, he's gonna put the bat on ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Gorman Carrol's a fast player in Majorleague Baseball and hits

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<v Speaker 3>the ball hard like he's gonna find a way, and

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<v Speaker 3>the defense is great. Triples yeah, oh yeah, no. I

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<v Speaker 3>think if you look at my right up on him

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<v Speaker 3>from even two years ago, I said he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>lead the leaking triples because of that outfield too, just

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<v Speaker 3>the space out there. Peralta, David Peralta always had a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of triples out there, So imagine what Corman Carroll's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have out there. I think this outfield's going to

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<v Speaker 3>find a way to even at the bottom be good,

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<v Speaker 3>but this could be a great outfield if these guys

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<v Speaker 3>hit the way they can. I am a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>concerned about the bats of McCarthy and Thomas, Relatively speaking,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not really worried about Carrol, even as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 3>I think at the very worst you're getting above average production.

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<v Speaker 2>From him, which is why at the twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>end of season updated the top one he was one

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<v Speaker 2>over gunner because like, there's nothing to worry.

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<v Speaker 3>About with Carol No, literally nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jake McCarthy is a very underrated talent for

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona ninety nine games, finished fourth and Rookie of the Year,

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<v Speaker 2>voting eight homers forty three driven in. He was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three for twenty six in the stolen based department. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're that good of a base dealer with a seven

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<v Speaker 2>to seventy oh ps, you've got a spot man. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think Guriell is like the rotating guy in the outfield,

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<v Speaker 2>and he who knows, maybe Gabriel Moreno hops in a

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<v Speaker 2>corner at some point if they feel like Carson Kelly

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<v Speaker 2>needs to catch. I think too.

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<v Speaker 3>Garriella is a left fielder, is like God forbid, Thomas

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<v Speaker 3>stinks or McCarthy thinks what we don't think is gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 3>Like Garriell in the corner is still an above average

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<v Speaker 3>big league outfield act correct, So I mean they've got

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<v Speaker 3>a nice even though he's not a good or a

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<v Speaker 3>great defender, he's gonna hit and he's gonna be fine

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<v Speaker 3>enough defensively. Yeah, last thing on them, McCarthy, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how to feel about him. Like, I know, he's

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<v Speaker 3>a good player. He's hit at least above average. He's

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<v Speaker 3>put up above average numbers at every stop and kind

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<v Speaker 3>of done similar to what we saw last year. But like,

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<v Speaker 3>do you think that he can maintain a two eighty three,

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<v Speaker 3>three forty two, you know, four to twenty seven slash

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<v Speaker 3>line at the big league level, you know as he continues,

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<v Speaker 3>or is he more of a one hundred WRC plus

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<v Speaker 3>guy with all of the little you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>what would you say, like accents to his game right,

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<v Speaker 3>like all of the little like tangibles. Yeah, Like that's

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<v Speaker 3>the one thing I don't know. I I he is

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<v Speaker 3>a very tough read for me. I think that he

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<v Speaker 3>can be close, like close to what he was last

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<v Speaker 3>year though ultimately gun in my head, that's probably what

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<v Speaker 3>i'd say, But I do have some concern of, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what if he does regress a bit offensively.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So he had a one eighteen ops plus last year,

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<v Speaker 2>even if he's like a one oh three to one

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<v Speaker 2>oh five ops plus guy, I feel good about everything

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<v Speaker 2>else that he does. And he's always going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the third outfielder here, you know what I mean? Yeaheah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel decent about that. An ode to John Rothstein.

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<v Speaker 2>It is conference championship week, Conference tournament week in college basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>It is March by stock now in the Arizona Diamondbacks outfield.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'll say also, real quick, Kyle Lewis, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I think he's pretty pretty cooked in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of playing center and stuff. But that guy can get

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<v Speaker 3>by in a corner. Again, that's that's a bonus guy

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<v Speaker 3>to throw out there. If anything goes wrong, that's not bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Second, Honora, we'll mention is the White Sox. One

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<v Speaker 2>of these things is not like the other. Andrew Ben

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<v Speaker 2>and Tendy Luis Robert and Gavin Sheets. Is the projected

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<v Speaker 2>opening day outfield. There were two massive holes for them

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<v Speaker 2>in the corners last year with Vaughan at first. Now

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<v Speaker 2>there's one. It's in right. I thought Ben and Tendy

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<v Speaker 2>was a really good signing for them because Tim Anderson's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna lead off and Benny's probably gonna hit two, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Luis Robert. We know when he's on the field

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<v Speaker 2>and if he is fully healthy, he can be that

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<v Speaker 2>perennial All Star, borderline MVP candidate type talent. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>Buxton conversation. I think that the second and third options

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<v Speaker 2>with Eloi Jimenez is the DH. Please God do not

0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:17.800
<v Speaker 2>let him play outfield. But if he does, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>suck defensively, but we know what he can do with

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<v Speaker 2>the bat when he's healthy. I think that if you

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<v Speaker 2>have even eighty percent of Buston and Luis Robert, I

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<v Speaker 2>think Ben and Tende and sheet Slash Jimenez is better

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<v Speaker 2>than Gallo and Kepler.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason why I love Ben Attendy and I love

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<v Speaker 3>that signing is that you know what you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>with him, right, Like there's something just settling about finally

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<v Speaker 3>having a White Sox player that you know, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we can pencil him in for you know two and

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<v Speaker 3>a half three wins, we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying we couldn't do that with you on Winkata.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, I mean like even that, Like it's a roller

0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.080
<v Speaker 3>coaster with all these guys, it's an absolute roller coaster.

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<v Speaker 3>So just knowing that Ben Attendy's gonna hit for average,

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<v Speaker 3>sneak out enough home runs, He's gonna you know, be

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<v Speaker 3>fine defensively, Like, it's just refreshing, right, So you can

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<v Speaker 3>pencil that guy, you can sharp be that guy in

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<v Speaker 3>Oscar Colos is a great backup plan if Sheet struggles,

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<v Speaker 3>which makes me feel better about the one hole out there.

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<v Speaker 3>And Colos is swinging it, man, another guy that you

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<v Speaker 3>think it's even a backup plan, I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>end up being the primary plan here. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>team that I think has, you know, they know the

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<v Speaker 3>pressure that they're feeling to win now. And if Colas

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<v Speaker 3>keeps swinging it in the spring, that's a team that

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<v Speaker 3>I think would say fuck it before many others. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think colos is just ability to crush fastballs will

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<v Speaker 3>let him you know, be competitive from the from the

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<v Speaker 3>get go. And he hits left as well. So Colos

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<v Speaker 3>is a guy that I think really helps the outfield

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<v Speaker 3>situation overall. I think this outfield you talk about like

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<v Speaker 3>variants and best outcome potential, this outfield has a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to be one of the better outfields. If Luis Robert

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<v Speaker 3>is doing what you said he could do, which I agree,

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<v Speaker 3>I concur and and if e Boy Jimenez is producing,

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<v Speaker 3>I know you can kind of count that as an outfielder.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he'll jump out there from from time to time.

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<v Speaker 3>But Colas will be the big X factor here because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you're gonna expect much from sheets, good

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<v Speaker 3>depth bat, good bench bat that you can fit in there,

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<v Speaker 3>but Colos is the big X factor.

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<v Speaker 2>Favorite thing that Baseball Reference does for their spring training stats.

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<v Speaker 2>They have something at the tail end called opponent quality,

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<v Speaker 2>and they graded on a one to ten scale, one

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<v Speaker 2>being you're facing a position player on the mound, ten

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<v Speaker 2>being you're facing a major league arm Oscar Colas, in

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<v Speaker 2>eight games so far this spring, has an opponent quality

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<v Speaker 2>of seven and a half, which sits right in between

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<v Speaker 2>double and triple A. He's seven for sixteen with a

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<v Speaker 2>double and one strikeout in sixteen played appearances against double

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<v Speaker 2>A slash triple A.

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<v Speaker 3>Pitching I saw our guy Elijah Evans, who's out there

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<v Speaker 3>covering spring training in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, doing a great job and writing some stuff up

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<v Speaker 3>with spring training notes and do an interview. So check

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<v Speaker 3>out his stuff on just Baseball dot com. But I

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<v Speaker 3>saw he put out a video of Coloss with a

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<v Speaker 3>nice two strike swing up the middle, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>something that, you know, like he was a guy that

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<v Speaker 3>it was big hack, big hack behind oh two, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care big hack again. Yeah, Which, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm in the minors, man and I'm putting up numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll keep ripping it too. I'm not gonna pretend like

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<v Speaker 3>who gives a shit? Like he was raking, who cares?

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<v Speaker 3>Like take your hack so too too, like whatever. But

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 3>this is a guy that now realized I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make a big league club, and to see him have

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 3>a different approach is refreshing. And I think that's a

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 3>testament to his maturity and a testament to the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that this is a guy that's serious about making the team.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the White Sox are noticing that, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's going to force their hand to make

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<v Speaker 3>this team.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so too. All Right, third honorable mention. And

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<v Speaker 2>again one of these things is not like the other

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<v Speaker 2>in the other way is the LA Dodgers, David Peralta,

0:23:55.200 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Trace Thompson, Mookie Bets. This is the conversation around outfields,

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 2>and we just had a conversation pre recording about where

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 2>the Yankees should sit on this list because they have

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<v Speaker 2>the best player in baseball and the best season arguably

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 2>in baseball history from a year ago. And then they

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.159
<v Speaker 2>have Aaron Hicks in the outfield as well. The Dodgers

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 2>have two platoon guys and Mookie Bets. Mookie Bets alone

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 2>makes them an honorable mention in outfield. I think if

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Jason Hayward does what we think he may do this year,

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 2>I then immediately a top ten You're in like fully

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>bought in, dude.

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 3>That I had the weird like not fully bought in.

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm just in on, like give him some at bats

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 3>this this swing adjustment, like trading him like a prospect.

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 3>His swing before was so like I can't emphasize enough

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:49.119
<v Speaker 3>how like he got away with so many bad moves.

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 3>If he was a prospect, I would like I'd be

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 3>very out, but he got away with excuse an athletic freak.

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 3>But then it started to not work as much and

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 3>they were able to game plan for him a bit

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<v Speaker 3>more and he slowed down a little bit. Hayward's old

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.199
<v Speaker 3>swing was like if you put a gun to his

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<v Speaker 3>head and said, you have to hit this ball on

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 3>the ground or I'm shooting you. Like that's what his

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<v Speaker 3>swing was.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's to the first basement.

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes. Now his swing's like he's trying to lift the ball.

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.399
<v Speaker 3>Like it's much more geared towards what we're seeing some

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 3>of the best hitters in today's game do. He's staying

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.119
<v Speaker 3>in his back hit better like he used to have

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 3>a lot of forward move. Freeman got with him there,

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 3>and usually I don't buy that kind of stuff, But

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:26.159
<v Speaker 3>just looking, if you put side by side the swings,

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 3>it's not even close. It's night and day. I'm not

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 3>saying this guy's gonna be a star, but I think

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 3>he could be a contributor and worth the roster spot,

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.159
<v Speaker 3>which they need right now. It's funny. That's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the weirdest tweet engagements I've ever had. Was I just said,

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm in on

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.639
<v Speaker 3>this swing, Like this plays on Jason Hayward zero retweets,

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<v Speaker 3>like a hundred likes and just people just like I

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 3>probably bookmarking it, like all right, man, he said it,

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 3>like I'm liking it, and I'm coming back to this.

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 2>They're ready to dm old takes exposed. Yeah.

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've never had one hundred likes and zero retweets, like,

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 3>I've never had that before, So I'm very it was

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 3>a very interesting, like very very interesting just social experiment there.

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Chris Taylor, like he struggled last year, man, but that's

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 3>still an above average big League or even if he

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 3>replicates last year, I think he'll be better. I do.

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 3>That's a great outfield option as well.

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:16.880
<v Speaker 2>But Taylor's got to play the infield.

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know, but you figure he still has

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 3>to be considered in that outfield, right, Like he still

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 3>has to be a guy that's that's relevant to that outfield.

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 3>And then James Alton, James Altman's got to be got

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 3>to be considered out here too.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like Alvin. Yeah, I mean shit.

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Already the other day, I know.

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 2>I know, Like trust me, I'm keeping tabs because you

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 2>and Taylor Davis made fun of me for taking him

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 2>pretty high in our twenty year Yeah.

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 3>It was a stupid pick. Yeah, in our in our

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 3>in our redraft, he's twenty six. We're doing a redraft.

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 3>There's like twenty year olds on the board, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>ripping the twenty six year old rookie.

0:26:52.840 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with freak tools. Jason Hayward. Listen, he's not thirty eight.

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>He's thirty three years old.

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>He's not like Johns, like that build that he had

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 2>in Chicago six five, two forty. He still looks like that. Yes,

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 2>he's still technically like in an age where a lot

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 2>of people are nearing the end of their prime. He's

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>not over the hill. He had a problem, and if

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 2>he fixes it, he's got five more major league seasons

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 2>available for him pretty much.

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Dude, think about where Trace Thompson was before last year

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 3>and what swing adjustments and things have done for him.

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 3>And he's guess what the same age. Trace Thompson's thirty two,

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Jason Aedward's thirty three. Like, think a better from that

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 3>perspective for a second. Like, he's not cooked. He can

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 3>make adjustments, And that's why I'm kind of in on

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 3>a bounce back that said, this outfield is very deficient

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 3>from what we're used to for the LA Dodgers.

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 2>All right, Jason Hayward, I'm grabbing guys that are born

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>right around his birthday August nine to nineteen eighty nine.

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:03.959
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Rizzo is a day older than him. Let's see,

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Corbin is right around there. Jabbari Blash is right there.

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 3>He just came out a legend.

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean like, if you don't think Anthony Rizzo

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 2>is over the hill, you better not think Jason Hayward

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 2>is over the hill. But I understand why you would think.

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 3>So, Yes, because of the way his game declined so quickly.

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 3>I really think it was the swing just not working.

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 2>There we go, all right, Number ten, the other LA team,

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 2>the Angels, Taylor Ward, Mike Trout, Hunter renfro. Ward had

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>a good season last year. Hunter renfro is a thirty

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 2>homer threat. They've got Mike freaking Trout in center field.

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>They're not not a top ten team. I think that

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>there is a bit more depth and a couple more

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 2>dynamic players on the teams above them. But when you've

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 2>got Mike Trout in the outfield and you've got guys

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 2>that are serviceable flanking him. This is a top ten

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>outfield in the game.

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think this is another one you could bump

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 3>up a little bit just because Renfro is a guy

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 3>that you know what you're getting. You're getting a right,

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 3>like you said around thirty home runs, Taylor Ward, it

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 3>was an All Star last year, and like, this guy's

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 3>really good. And then we know what Mike Trout is,

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 3>don't don't really need to talk about Joe Adele. I

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 3>think if you're counting on anything from Joe Adell, you're

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 3>you're you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm counting on an All Star season from Adele.

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh, well, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 2>That's what I do for That's what I've done for

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty five years. Now.

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you go. And then Brett Phillips, you know, great, great,

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 3>great attitude, So.

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 2>You really can't do guy.

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I do think that that three is

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 3>a clear cut top ten outfield in baseball though, that three,

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Like again, I love referencing it because I think it's

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 3>the best point that that could be made that uh,

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, foolish, foolish baseball Bailey made on the on

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 3>the plots surround Mike Trout and show him Tony with

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 3>guys who don't suck, and and that they haven't really

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 3>done that and now they're they're doing that and and

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 3>that makes it a really good outfield.

0:29:56.440 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right too, all right, number nine. Tell me if

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>you think the Angels should be ahead of number nine,

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 2>But it's the Phillies. Kyle Schwarber, Brandon Marsh, Nick Costianos,

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Marsh was an outfield made of Mike Trout in LA

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of last year. If we did this

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 2>last year, Marsh would have been in the number ten spot.

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>But Marsh holds down center. He's surrounded by two guys

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 2>that are defensive liabilities. But Schwarber is a fifty homer threat.

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Nick Costianos can't be worse than what he was last year,

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 2>and Marsh has proven ample value for the Philadelphia Phillies.

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I like them over the Angels, I think because of

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 2>the impact that Schwarber can make. Costianos if he does

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 2>get back to Nick Costiano's light, even if he's twenty

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>five homers, if he's an eight hundred ops, feel good

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 2>about it. And then Brandon Marsh. I'm high on Marsh.

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 3>I agree with everything you're saying. I would probably go Angels.

0:30:55.200 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Here's my thing, Taylor Ward or Nick Castianos, actually even

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 3>even different, Hunter Renfro or Nick Castillanos.

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 2>So I think we're going to disagree here, but I'm

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 2>probably going Castianos for twenty three. If you look at

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty two, obviously Renfro, if you look at twenty one, obviously, Castillanos.

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm worried like he might he might just stink.

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 3>And then Schwarber is awesome, but Mike Trout can give

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 3>you that with a glove in center field. Yeah, and

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 3>then Taylor Ward or or Castianos, then.

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll take Ward.

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 3>I think you could make the the the Angels case

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 3>over this group. Here's the big big issue here. When

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Bryce Harper comes back, is he dhing or is he

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 3>playing the outfield? Because even even a slightly below average

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 3>or below average defensive Bryce Harper out there, like you

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 3>put Castianos at DH and it's Harper, Schwarber and marsh

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 3>That's that's fucking nasty. And and I think he's gonna

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 3>play a little outfield. I don't know how the arm

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 3>situation is gonna be. I feel like you can play

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 3>some outfield once he comes back.

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>If I were a betting man, he d H.

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I won't pretend like I know, I have zero idea.

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 3>It's probably the right I think they probably it's probably

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 3>the sharp play is the betting yeah, yeah, And then

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 3>if you're wrong, it was still the sharp play. I think.

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I feel like with how bad Casianos

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 3>can be out there, if if his arms, if Harper's

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 3>arms good, like I feel like he got the Tommy

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 3>John surgery to kind of come back and play defense.

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I just don't know when that will be, you know,

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 3>And like if you go to the postseason, don't you

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 3>want Harper out there? I don't know that that's the

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 3>tough one. Are we operating under the assumption that Harper

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 3>plays zero outfield next year?

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I think I am or this year I should say yeah.

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 3>In that case, I'm taking the Angels.

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but all right, But for.

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 3>What that's sort But I don't think it's like far off.

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 3>And again Schwarber's if Casianos bounces back, then it's a

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 3>really fun one. And the thing that's weird about casianas

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 3>bro is it's not like Philadelphia is is a graveyard

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 3>and we talked about how he really hits well and

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 3>hit well in Cincinnati and the splits and blah blah blah.

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Philadelphi is a good place to swing. It's a good

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 3>place to hit man, especially for Reguard that goes oppo,

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 3>like Casiana says, so hopefully he bounces back. But yeah,

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 3>I do think that's a fun, interesting debate between those

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 3>two unpredictable outfields.

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean you ask what changed for Casianos and

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 2>it was literally just impact of the baseball. Yeah, he

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>struck out three percent more of the time, but as

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 2>average Egsavila went down two and a half miles an hour.

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's weird.

0:33:57.800 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 2>That's so weird.

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 3>It was a negative one f war guy last year.

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:07.239
<v Speaker 2>That's so weird from him. Never expected it. All right,

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I will cook these beauty of recording this podcast before

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the article goes live. Is I can go and change

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 2>the ranking. So I think I will adjust these rankings

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>accordingly because you have convinced me. I have learned from

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 2>my co host arm let's go. We can be supportive here.

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel bad that I said that your James

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.240
<v Speaker 3>Altman pick was stupid. It wasn't stupid.

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>It was bold feel bad.

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 3>You know it was bold, stupid was a mean word.

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh you say enough mean shit to me that I

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 2>don't feel it anymore. I only feel it occasionally, all right.

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Remember auting me as an abusive co host and Fred.

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Number eight is Saint Louis there started there. They're projected

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:52.720
<v Speaker 2>starting outfield Lars Newbarn left, Tyler O'Neal, and center Dylan

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Carlson in right. The conversation is between eight and seven,

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 2>we can knock two birds out with one stone. Number

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>seven is the Yankees. Aaron Hicks, Harrison Vader, Aaron Judge.

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 2>We had a conversation about this pre record, and do

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>you take three good guys or do you take a

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>bad guy in average guy and the best hitter in baseball?

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 3>You know what this reminds me of as you just

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 3>framed it like that is like those graphics where it's

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.399
<v Speaker 3>like you have twelve dollars and.

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly like do you spend five dollars on somebody

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 2>or do you take like the four dollars guy at

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>each spot and all of this one?

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 3>This is one honestly, Like what those are you watching

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 3>on YouTube? Like comment below, Like if you're a Cardinals

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 3>or a Yankees fan, like, shut it respectfully. But if

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 3>you're a fan of like the twenty eight other teams,

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 3>I want to hear from you because I'm just I'm sorry.

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I had so many Cardinals and Dodge, so many fans

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.280
<v Speaker 3>when I did the top five farm systems for Bleach Report,

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 3>How could you omit this farm system? I'm like, jeez, okay,

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 3>you're an idiot. You're an idiot for not liking my

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 3>favorite team's farm system. I got a lot of Dodgers

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 3>people saying that they're the their system was better than

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 3>the Orioles, which I was like, false. How do you

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 3>justify Orioles over Dodgers was a message I got, and

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 3>I literally just sent a screenshot of their top ten.

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, sorry, I digress. I want to see in

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 3>the YouTube comments which outfield you would prefer, because it

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 3>is like that budget situation where you have four dollars

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 3>for Judge Harper whoever, and then like one dollar at

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 3>the bottom is like as Waldo Cabrera and all these

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 3>other guys, and then two dollars would be like Dylan Carlson,

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 3>three dollars would be Tyler O'Neal let's say. This is

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 3>where it's hard because you're pretty much locked in for

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 3>an MVP candidate. Now, I think with Aaron Judge every

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 3>single year, I think that's very fair to say. And

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 3>I think he's gonna be again one of the best

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 3>buyers in baseball. And I think that's very hard hitting

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.800
<v Speaker 3>analysis here. Harrison Vader was a very important addition to

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 3>the Yankees outfield because he just gives them, assuming he's healthy,

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 3>just a good safe defender that can at least put

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 3>give your league average slightly better offenses and move.

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Judge out of center, and move Judge out to the centerfielder.

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:05.839
<v Speaker 2>But you don't need him in center.

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 3>You don't need him out there. So I'll be an

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 3>elite right fielder that is really solid. The question is

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Aaron hicksonna play left if Ozwaldo Cabrera is playing left?

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 3>Because I don't want to be like, oh, Hicks is

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 3>going to be a disaster for them. That's not fair

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.280
<v Speaker 3>because if he is a disaster, then they'll put Cabrera

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 3>out there. So operating under that assumption, do you take

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 3>those three or do you take O'Neill Carlson And in

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 3>New bar I think what it boils down to, is

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.279
<v Speaker 3>what do you think we're gonna get from O'Neill and

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 3>Carlson ectrics? We were expecting new Bar to be good.

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Everyone on Earth is expecting New Part.

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.240
<v Speaker 2>To be the most overrated under under.

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Underrated player out. Yes, but like I think we're all

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 3>banking on three and a half f wour at least,

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:45.280
<v Speaker 3>and I think he's gonna be a really good player.

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Is Carlson gonna gonna be Dylan Carlson? But even if

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 3>he's not, he's still he's still I think matches beater

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 3>at the very least, right, Like, I think, do you

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 3>think that's fair to say he matches beatter at the

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 3>very least? I think he'll be better. There's a reason

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.280
<v Speaker 3>why the Cardinals traded one them. It's not just control.

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Carlson has way more upside.

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I think, yes.

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:06.760
<v Speaker 3>And then it's just what do you get from Tyler O'Neal,

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 3>who was a five and a half one player but

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 3>also has struggled to stay healthy and is kind of

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 3>a one hit wonder at this point. Yeah, you chose

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 3>the Cardinals.

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I did. Now, if we're looking at an accumulation thing, right, like,

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 2>if we're looking at war accumulation. Judge on his own

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 2>beats two Cardinals, So are you gonna get two anyone?

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 2>He beats two All Stars, right exactly like, are are

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 2>you going to get Baiter and hickslash Cabrera beating out

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Tyler O'Neil. I would say yes, because two is usually

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 2>greater than one, especially when you're talking about guys that

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 2>are fine pieces. You mentioned five point six f four

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and twenty twenty one for O'Neil, he had a one

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>forty four WRC plus. He had a one oh one

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>WRC plus this past year, but he was a bad defender,

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 2>so he was a one point three win. He was

0:38:56.640 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>hurt too, Yeah, but like one point three in ninety

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>six games. He's somewhere in between that, I mean. And

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 2>it's such a shitty cop out thing to say, yeah,

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 2>but you got to ask yourself, is he a three

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 2>win guy? Or is he a four win guy? And

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I personally want him to be a four win guy,

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.879
<v Speaker 2>but I think he's closer to a three win guy.

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 3>He's three and a half, yeah, something like that. And

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he needs to be playing every single

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.439
<v Speaker 3>day because you want to keep him healthy. Carlson, Now

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 3>we were expecting him to build off of what was

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:42.879
<v Speaker 3>a really solid, you know, first full season two point

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 3>six four one thirteen WRC plus good defense, eighteen homers.

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 3>He follows that up reportedly banged up last year, so

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 3>give him the benefit of the doubt. There cuts the

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 3>k rate down by five percent, which was a great sign.

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:57.280
<v Speaker 3>But offense tikes a hit. He was a league average

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 3>one hundred WRC plus two point four four off the

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 3>back of great defense. So if this guy's a little

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 3>bit better offensively, he's a three three and a half

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 3>wind player. Again, I think, if you're who are you

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:14.479
<v Speaker 3>taking going into next year? And I know, put put

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 3>the our war on Peter Apple aside for a second

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 3>on the Harrison Bader stuff, because.

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm taking Carlson over Baer. I was about to

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 2>ask you, do you think they made the right decision

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:25.240
<v Speaker 2>moving Baiter?

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the control made it a no brainer, honestly.

0:40:29.120 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 3>And I love the Beata pickup for the Yankees, And

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I think it's really funny how it's become like because

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 3>we but you and I don't mind Beata. I think

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 3>you and I both think he's a good player. Peter

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Peter really likes him, going into this year, and I

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 3>understand that he showed a lot of good things and

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 3>he's looked good this spring. But it's become kind of

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 3>one of those uh subtle, just Baseball show debates that

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 3>have come up, and I think it's funny, but honestly,

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:54.479
<v Speaker 3>I really do think if I had to take one,

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm probably gonna take Carlson just because I think he

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 3>I think he's a little say but that said, like,

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 3>he was not as good last year overall, so I

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be shocked if Beata's better. I think they they

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 3>literally could be a wash, and I think it's safe

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 3>to call them a wash. And if you do that,

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 3>then it's it's Judge versus So how you if you

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.920
<v Speaker 3>call Bater and Carlson a wash, it becomes down to

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Judge versus O'Neill and Noukebar. It's Judge and Hicks slash

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Cabrera against O'Neill and Nukebar. That's it's it's an oversimplification,

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 3>but it's really tough.

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:36.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is really tough. I take Carlson over over

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Batter because Carlson like had a bad year. I think

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 2>everybody would say bad year, right, power went away, but

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:46.240
<v Speaker 2>he was still a one hundred WRC plus guy. Bater

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 2>was an eighty six WRC plus guy, and yeah he

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 2>was banged up, but that shows you like a bad

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 2>year of Bata is eighty six, A bad year of

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Carlson is one.

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Hundred's one hundred and apparently Carlson was banged up too.

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. So, Uh no, it's an oversimplification, but I

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 2>think you have to take the guy that had eleven

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 2>and a half war last year.

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 3>And you got to also consider what the Cardinals. Brendan

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 3>Donovan can go out there. We're talking about depth. I

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 3>think that's what puts the Cardinals over the top, because

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 3>God forbid somebody gets hurt, you know, God forbid judge

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 3>missus time like that. Yankees outfield isn't fucked. If O'Neill

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 3>or new Bar whoever goes down like Yepez can go

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:27.840
<v Speaker 3>out there, They've.

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Got maybe Walker's opportunity.

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Walker could go out there, Burleson can go out there

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 3>like that. And these aren't just like Plug and Prey,

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 3>like all of those guys are our potential, you know,

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 3>fringe all stars at least not Burls. I think Burroson

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 3>is above average bat but I mean, Yepez could swing

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:46.879
<v Speaker 3>it well enough to be an All Star one here

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 3>or too. Like we know what Jordan Walker can be.

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:52.959
<v Speaker 3>Brendan Donovan is just a really good utility guy. So yeah,

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 3>I side with you with the depth. I think it

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 3>puts him over the top. I'll go Cardinals. Wow, so

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 3>you do go Cardinals the depth, just kind of thinking

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 3>about it from that perspective, because you know, I think

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 3>the Yankees are already using their depth and left, assuming

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 3>that Hicks is gonna stink, because I think he's gonna

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 3>They've just got way more options. I mean, I would

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 3>I would argue that Burleson. I would want to start

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.919
<v Speaker 3>Burrows in day one if I were the Yankees. Let's

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.320
<v Speaker 3>say the Yankees acquired Burleson, I'd say, bench checks and

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 3>start Burleson. Correct, And that's a guy that's that's legitimately

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 3>stashed on the bench right now.

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:28.280
<v Speaker 2>For that about Yepez too, right like, yeah.

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 3>As I'd say start him and left right away. Yeah,

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 3>So these are all guys that I would start in

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 3>the Yankees outfield that are on the bench. Brandon Donovan,

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:36.879
<v Speaker 3>I would say start him right away. I think he's

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.479
<v Speaker 3>better than obviously better than Aswalda. Caberry's a better version

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 3>of him. So all of these guys, I would say

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I would start in left field for the Yankees, and

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 3>they're not starting in the outfield for the Cardinals because

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 3>there's a better option. So that kind of tells you,

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 3>I think, how they line up.

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 2>So do you do you consider Donovan a breakout candidate

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 2>or would you consider last year his breakout?

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 3>Last year was his breakout. I think that's what he is.

0:43:56.239 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I think he solidifies himself as more valuable than Carlson,

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 2>O'Neill and Bar this year. That's my hot take. I

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 2>think that that's a hot take. Yeah, I know we

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 2>posed it. It was just like stream of consciousness questions earlier.

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:09.479
<v Speaker 2>I think it was in December when when I posed

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of questions and I said, ranked these guys

0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:15.760
<v Speaker 2>by value, and it was Gorman, Donovan, Carlson O'Neill, and Neotbar.

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 2>I think I had Donovan two or three. My take

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 2>now is I think Donovan's a clear cut one over

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 2>all these guys.

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Wow, all right, I got no issue with that. I

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.840
<v Speaker 3>think that's that's hot. It's hot. Though that's hot, it's hot.

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you need to come out with a hot take,

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:32.280
<v Speaker 2>and I just came.

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Out with a hot takes.

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Hot thanks man, all right. Number six the Mets, Mark Kenna,

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Nimo, Starling Marte projected as the opening day outfield

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 2>guys waiting in the wings. Baby may hop out into

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 2>a corner, right. I There are some serious options for

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 2>the Mets here, and I think what puts them over

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the Yankee cardinal grouping is Nimo is a five and

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a half win player, and when he's on the field

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 2>for a full season, he is five to five and

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:04.760
<v Speaker 2>a half wins. Mark Canna is a very underrated piece

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 2>to that Mets team. He's always gonna get on base,

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 2>He's always going to provide decent defense. He's always going

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 2>to put up you know, a w RC plus probably

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.880
<v Speaker 2>overall hundred. And then Starling Marte is Starling Marte.

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 3>My only things I'm worried about Marte. I really am

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 3>he double groin surgery like that, that's nuts. I don't

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 3>even know that. I've never heard of that. Like and

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 3>then a guy that's built on speed, oblique and double

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 3>groin that said like he's Starling Marte, He's he's he's

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:39.279
<v Speaker 3>a honest too, like I'm going to bank on him

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 3>being he's still pretty good even if if if the

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, the speed isn't there and we can't again

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 3>we can't project injuries, so we don't go there. But yeah,

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, back to back three win seasons from Mark Canna,

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean, that's that's what you can pretty

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 3>much lock in from him. A one twenty eight WRC

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 3>plus last season was just great. What we saw from

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:01.439
<v Speaker 3>Brandon Nemo spectacular. There's definitely a lot of risk here

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 3>of regression because of Marte, yeah, and his injury stuff

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 3>this offseason in last year, Cana turning thirty four and

0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Nemo just coming off a career year. But just based

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 3>on what we got last year and what we have

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:17.839
<v Speaker 3>to assume that they you know, they can do going

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 3>into next year, this has to be an outfield that's

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:22.840
<v Speaker 3>ahead of the ones we just talked about.

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Since twenty eighteen WRC plus from Mark Canna by year

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 2>one fifteen, one forty six in one hundred and twenty

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 2>six games in twenty nineteen, one twenty nine. In twenty twenty,

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:36.879
<v Speaker 2>he played fifty nine games, played one hundred and forty

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>one games. In twenty one. He had a one to seventeen,

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 2>and you mentioned the one twenty eight and one hundred

0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 2>and forty games this past year. He's got a career

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 2>WRC plus at one eighteen and that's some bad years

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to open his career.

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:49.399
<v Speaker 3>He was a real spot.

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.280
<v Speaker 2>This guy's a sneaky, awesome hitter.

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 3>One of the most underrated players in baseball. Rule five

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 3>draft pick out of the out of the Florida Marlins.

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the side burns. You think he's underrated, like he's

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 2>he's almost frowned upon because he still has sideburns.

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that did cost him a little bit on

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 3>the contract, right, two years twenty six and a half

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 3>would have been two years forty. I think if he

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't have the sideburns.

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, you got to figure those things out. Man.

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:19.320
<v Speaker 2>All Right, Number five.

0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Seattle my players too much, I think, if we're gonna

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 3>be honest.

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these guys are human beings, man, Yeah, They're not

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:31.280
<v Speaker 2>just pieces of hair. Seattle starting projected outfield Jared Kelnick,

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Julio Rodriguez, Tioscar Hernandez. I love the Oscar makes him

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 2>a top five outfield.

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 3>I love the order that you just went in there.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, uh, miserable maybe a quadruple ele guy will see Yeah,

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 2>perennial MVP candidate for the next fifteen years, Taioscar Hernandez.

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree. Te Oscar was everything they needed, right,

0:47:53.480 --> 0:47:58.280
<v Speaker 3>everything they needed. I'm excited to see what ta Oscar

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:00.080
<v Speaker 3>does in this line. We just talked about him. But

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Kelnick is the X factor here we are again. We

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 3>said it last year, We'll say it again this year.

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:09.720
<v Speaker 3>Kalnick's to the X factor. He looks good in spring training,

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 3>for whatever that's worth. What I will say is he

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:14.720
<v Speaker 3>is going the other way. He is putting better swings

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 3>on left on left, which is encouraging. And this guy's

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.439
<v Speaker 3>twenty three. So while we feel like we've been hearing

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 3>about him forever, he is twenty three. AJ Pollock to Hedge,

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 3>that is huge, huge, huge, huge, So Aj Pollock being

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 3>in the mix here as well. He can still play

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 3>a good outfield, right, I mean, this is a guy

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 3>that can still play a good left field if you

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:39.759
<v Speaker 3>need him to. I feel good about having him in

0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:42.920
<v Speaker 3>the equation to take a lot of that pressure off

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 3>of Kellnick. If he doesn't pan out, this is still

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 3>a good outfield. And then you got you know, utility

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 3>guy like Dylan Moore. You know Sam Haggerty involved in

0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 3>there too. It's a good outfield. It's led by like

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 3>you said, perennial MVP candidate. If Julio can continue to

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 3>make that leap and t Oscar hits the ship out

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:06.719
<v Speaker 3>of the ball, it's it's a good, good outfield. That

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 3>could be great if Kelnick makes the leap. If he

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 3>if he doesn't, A j. Pollock is still a good

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 3>enough third option in that outfield.

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 2>First game out of the All Star Break, who is

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 2>the starting left fielder?

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:26.920
<v Speaker 3>God, ain't that the question is a lefty pitching. I

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:28.920
<v Speaker 3>think I think Kelnick swings it well enough to be

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 3>a platoon guy. I think so. I'm gonna say it's

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 3>alrighty And I think I think he plays. I can

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:39.400
<v Speaker 3>he hits the ball too hard, He's too talented.

0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I think Kelnick's gonna be I don't know. I don't

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 3>think he's gonna be, you know, the guy, the perennial

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:46.879
<v Speaker 3>All Star that we thought, But I think he could

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 3>be a productive power bat in a corner. I'm gonna

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say Kelnick. I'm gonna say Knick's first first

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 3>game out of the All Star break. He's the outfielder.

0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:58.880
<v Speaker 2>So they also have Cooper Hummel kind of waiting is

0:49:58.920 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 2>like the second or third. Hummell can play some outfield.

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of options to platoon with Kelnick. Right,

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:09.360
<v Speaker 2>you can go with Dylan Moore, you can go with Haggerty,

0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 2>or you can go with Cooper Hummel.

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:15.920
<v Speaker 3>And Pollock and Pollock. Yeah right, I think Pollock's the

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 3>lefty masher that would be That would be that option.

0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, that makes sense. All right. Four, Dalton varshow

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Kevin kier Meyer, and George Springer is the projected starting

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:32.400
<v Speaker 2>outfield in Toronto. Nasty kier Meyer is not going to

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>give you much offensively, but he's going to give you

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 2>a Gold Glove caliber center field production. George Springer in

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 2>a corner is an All Star. And Dalton varshow is.

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 2>We know Dalton varshow Man he was putting up Gold

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Glove numbers in center and he's a catcher.

0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Yep, and I think he will be even he could

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:55.760
<v Speaker 3>be one of the best defenders in baseball and left field,

0:50:56.000 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 3>like legitimately that good. So if you have that outfield

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 3>right there defensively alone, that could be the best defensive

0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 3>outfield in baseball. It could be very well up there.

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 2>And oh, by the way, Springer can hit to a

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 2>nine hundred OPS and varshow is a seven fifty to

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 2>eight hundred OPS guy at least.

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:17.799
<v Speaker 3>And and oh, by the way, all of them can

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 3>steal bags. You know, they're even a slowed down kier

0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:24.720
<v Speaker 3>Meyer is still going to steal ten to fifteen bags.

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 3>There's just a lot more there. I think Kevin Bigio

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:29.959
<v Speaker 3>has been getting some work in the outfield too, which

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 3>is just another nice power left handed option there. And

0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:35.799
<v Speaker 3>then what Merrifield can can slide out there if you

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 3>need him to. This is an outfield that's deep, that's

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.440
<v Speaker 3>really good defensively and really good offensively. And they were

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 3>they were able to give up offense for defense with

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:48.600
<v Speaker 3>ker Meyer because he's gonna be your nine hitter if

0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 3>he's playing center field the way we think he can.

0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:54.319
<v Speaker 3>He's not even thirty three yet, so I think it

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.880
<v Speaker 3>was really injuries. I don't think he's slowing down that much.

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 3>This is a really, really good outfield. It could be

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 3>one of the best in baseball if Springer is playing

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 3>to his ability, and if Barshall like Varshall could be better.

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 3>You said he's seven to fifty seven to eighty guy,

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:09.439
<v Speaker 3>I agree, Like that's the baseline. Why can't this twenty

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:12.320
<v Speaker 3>six year old take another leap offensively? You know, maybe

0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:13.239
<v Speaker 3>he does so.

0:52:13.440 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Varshow last year one hundred and fifty one games had

0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:18.080
<v Speaker 2>a seven forty five ops. But the counting numbers were

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 2>good for him. Twenty seven homers, seventy four driven in.

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 2>He was sixteen for twenty two in the stolen based apartment.

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:28.720
<v Speaker 2>If he gives you identically that and gold glove caliber

0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 2>left field defense, you're thrilled with that trade.

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:33.439
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what they traded for.

0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cool, all right. Number three the Atlanta Braves Eddie Rosario,

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Michael Harris, Ronald Acuna Junior. You like that order too, Yeah, yeah, I.

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Love that order.

0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm going left field or right field. I'm going left,

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:54.399
<v Speaker 2>center right Eddie Rosario. Obviously as flashes in the pan

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 2>of being like, oh my gosh, this is the NLCS

0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:59.960
<v Speaker 2>MVP Eddi Rassario, But for the most part he's Eddi Rossario, Like,

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.040
<v Speaker 2>is there a better option out there? Michael Harris? Is

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 2>what I think we had? A bit? Three in the

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:08.239
<v Speaker 2>center field rankings Trout one, Julio two, Harris three, and

0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:10.640
<v Speaker 2>then Akunya. If Akunya is healthy again, he's a He's

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 2>a top MVV two talent and baseball yeah, MVP candidate

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:17.280
<v Speaker 2>forty forty threat. Like if anybody's gonna go fifty to fifty,

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:23.919
<v Speaker 2>it's Tatisa Racunya. So this outfield, if everything's perfect, could

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:27.560
<v Speaker 2>be the best outfield in the game, even if Akunya

0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:29.919
<v Speaker 2>is not one hundred percent right, even if Harris hits

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:33.400
<v Speaker 2>two ninety instead of three hundred, and even if Rasario stinks,

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:34.799
<v Speaker 2>it's probably still top five.

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Can Travis Darnault play left I.

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:39.879
<v Speaker 2>Hope that William Cantrara has played.

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 3>If they're Billy bombs out there like that is, I

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:46.839
<v Speaker 3>don't know why these teams hate left field. We're looking

0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 3>at like a lot of these teams are just ignoring

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 3>left field. Look if Rosario and I know he was

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 3>dealing with like I issues and other injuries, I'm just

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of different things last year. If Rosario

0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:03.200
<v Speaker 3>can be a league average hitter man, then this outfield

0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:05.040
<v Speaker 3>will be a problem. And I think it's easy to forget.

0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:07.359
<v Speaker 3>Like Brazzario in twenty eighteen was a four win guy

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:10.439
<v Speaker 3>in twenty nineteen. His defense stunk, but he hit thirty

0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:12.600
<v Speaker 3>two pomps and drove in one hundred and nine. We

0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 3>saw the magic that he was able to produce in

0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 3>that World Series. Rung like, if he can just be

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 3>a league average bat with what you're gonna get from

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Michael Harris defensively and offensively, and then Ronald Occonie, like

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:28.279
<v Speaker 3>you mentioned that outfield is a problem, but man, I

0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 3>just I would love a better option in left field.

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:31.800
<v Speaker 3>I really would.

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 2>So I'm scanning for options on the roster. Orlando Arcia

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:38.759
<v Speaker 2>played six games and left. It's probably not a big upgrade.

0:54:39.360 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Sam Hilliard can play left. It depends how you view upgrade.

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Because Hilliard has a bit more powered, a bit more speed.

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 2>The problem is he can't make contact with the ball sometimes.

0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Luplow is probably not an upgrade.

0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:56.360
<v Speaker 3>He is against the left eas and that's the thing.

0:54:56.560 --> 0:55:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Is like, Okay, if you get a one five WRC

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:04.759
<v Speaker 3>plus from Rosario just against righty's, which I think is

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:07.439
<v Speaker 3>a very fair bar, and then you get a one

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 3>fifteen WRC plus from loop Low against lefties, which is

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:14.480
<v Speaker 3>pretty much what he has been at the minimum for

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:17.440
<v Speaker 3>his entire career. Then you're you've combined an above average

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:18.320
<v Speaker 3>platoon and left.

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Field, and they're looking at that as the comp.

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 3>That's all they need, that's all they need, because we

0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 3>just talked about center, like that's that's all they need.

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 3>So that's why I like the Looplo pick up for

0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:30.839
<v Speaker 3>them and hopefully, hopefully that's what they'll they'll be able

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:31.720
<v Speaker 3>to get out of left field.

0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Arguably the best Gwinnette striper of all time this year,

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:37.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm calling it Kevin Polar serving as the understudy to

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Michael Harris. So if Harris is dealing with like banged up,

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:43.359
<v Speaker 2>soreness or anything, just Polar comes up, plays some center

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:44.359
<v Speaker 2>and then goes right back down.

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:48.040
<v Speaker 3>I love it. By the way, Pilar is just always

0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:50.440
<v Speaker 3>going to hang around, I think forever. Yeah, man, I.

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Mean, if you can catch balls, you can do it.

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Looplow one twenty five WRC plus in his career against

0:55:55.440 --> 0:55:58.000
<v Speaker 3>left et seventy six WRC plus in his career against

0:55:58.040 --> 0:55:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Righty's got you.

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 2>There. We go Platoon number two, the Houston Astros. We're

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 2>saying Houston here because your don is projected in the

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:12.920
<v Speaker 2>opening day outfield. They bring Michael Brantley back. They probably

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 2>feel better about your Don in the outfield than they

0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 2>do Brandley. So it's you are Don Alvarez in left,

0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Chas McCormick and center Kyle Tucker and right. Chaz has

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:26.640
<v Speaker 2>proven to be an above average center fielder for the

0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Houston Astros. He's a one to fifteen WRC plus guy sneaky,

0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:32.319
<v Speaker 2>and then you are Don's you were Don, and Kyle

0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Tucker is a two hundred million dollar outfielder.

0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I think Chas McCormick's one of the most underrated players

0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:40.800
<v Speaker 3>in baseball right now. And I don't mean that in

0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 3>a way of like he's a star, like no, but

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 3>just like he is really good. He's not an after

0:56:45.200 --> 0:56:48.720
<v Speaker 3>really solid. It's a really solid player. He's he's played

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:52.359
<v Speaker 3>two big league seasons, and he is in his two

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 3>big league seasons thus far, a one to eleven WRC

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 3>plus back to back seasons of two win production. And

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:02.359
<v Speaker 3>even more important, he's gotten better offensively like we saw

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:04.440
<v Speaker 3>him last year. Year. The slug went down a little bit,

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 3>but he still matched his home run total, he matched

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:10.879
<v Speaker 3>his run total, he basically matched every counting stat, upped

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 3>his walk rate, lowered his k rate. Again, I think

0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 3>this guy can take another step this year. He's a

0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 3>great defender. It's all that the Astros need in center field.

0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, Jordon in a corner, but even if it

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 3>was Brandly in a corner like that's still a really

0:57:23.280 --> 0:57:25.840
<v Speaker 3>good outfield. Probably not number two, but it's still a

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:29.120
<v Speaker 3>really good outfield. And then Jake Myers is like your

0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:31.840
<v Speaker 3>fourth outfield option. He was really good before, you know,

0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:33.680
<v Speaker 3>getting hurt in the postseason, just hasn't been able to

0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:35.480
<v Speaker 3>totally get back. And then it's you know, kind of

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 3>fighting for opportunities now because of McCormick's you know what

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 3>he's done. But I think if Jordan is even playing

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:45.959
<v Speaker 3>in left field, by the way, in Houston has got

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:47.680
<v Speaker 3>to be one of the easiest left fields to play.

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:48.520
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna tell.

0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Them those Crawford boxes. He can take a weird bounce

0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:52.320
<v Speaker 2>off those things.

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, but the move put his back against put

0:57:55.320 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 3>your back against the Crawford boxes, and just come in.

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:00.200
<v Speaker 3>That's all he has to do. And if it's to

0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 3>to his left of the Crawford boxes, they'll say, that's

0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Chaz's territory. Don't cross that line. It's hot lava for

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:10.520
<v Speaker 3>your not And I think that's basically what it's gonna be.

0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 3>So like, that's a really good outfield production wise, And

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 3>I still am still waiting on the Kyle Tucker MVP season.

0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I still believe it can come, and if it comes,

0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 3>that might be the best outfield in baseball.

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>So how do you feel? I know, Hensley is an

0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 2>infielder for the most part, but he's like played left sporadically.

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:33.200
<v Speaker 2>He did get a start in left field last year.

0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Could Hensley like play the outfield if need be?

0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I think he can a little bit. I know he

0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:41.760
<v Speaker 3>did it in triple and he's just like one of

0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 3>those guys that's not going to be great anywhere, but

0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 3>he's like kind of good enough everywhere, sneaky athlete. He

0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:50.680
<v Speaker 3>can swing it too, Like his numbers in the minors

0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 3>then his numbers in the big leagues and that short

0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:54.640
<v Speaker 3>stint really good. He can play out there. I think

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:55.240
<v Speaker 3>he can get.

0:58:55.080 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 2>By yeah, one hundred percent. There aren't very many backup options. Listen,

0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:03.880
<v Speaker 2>if Jose Siri was the starting center fielder.

0:59:03.600 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh Man MVP over the field over.

0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 2>The top of Alvarez, Siri and Kyle Tucker, all right,

0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:13.440
<v Speaker 2>but the best outfield in baseball going into the twenty

0:59:13.440 --> 0:59:18.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty three season. Is San Diego the Padres. I'm counting

0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Tatis right now because he's only gonna miss three weeks.

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Opening Day, it's probably gonna be Matt Carpenter out there

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:28.120
<v Speaker 2>in left, and you got Soto and right and Grisham

0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:30.120
<v Speaker 2>and center. Who knows what Carpenter is going to be

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 2>this year. Obviously he was Babe Ruth for the Yankees

0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>last year. But once Tatis comes back, it's Soto, Grisham

0:59:39.040 --> 0:59:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and Tatis in the outfield, two top five top ten

0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:47.720
<v Speaker 2>players in the game, and a Gold Glover in centerfield.

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, that's the thing, is like, even if

0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Grisham can't hit, he's gonna defend and he's gonna run

0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:57.840
<v Speaker 3>into a few. The thing that makes me feel a

0:59:57.840 --> 1:00:00.360
<v Speaker 3>little bit better about Grisham too, is I I actually

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:03.440
<v Speaker 3>believe in Jose Zokar, Like I think Azocar is not bad.

1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:06.680
<v Speaker 3>I think he's a really decent fourth outfielder. And if

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:10.520
<v Speaker 3>if Grisham's really really stinking it up, you could plug

1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:12.280
<v Speaker 3>a Zocar out there and I think he'd be fine.

1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Like he was good in TRIPLEA, he's been good in

1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:19.600
<v Speaker 3>the minors and his numbers last year were not terrible.

1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:21.440
<v Speaker 3>He was a solid defender, and I think he can

1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:23.160
<v Speaker 3>keep getting better. That was his first taste of the

1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:25.520
<v Speaker 3>big leagues last year in sporadic playing time, and he

1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:28.479
<v Speaker 3>held his own. So I like Azocar as a backup option.

1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:29.920
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a reason why they've kind of held

1:00:29.960 --> 1:00:31.720
<v Speaker 3>onto him, and I think they like him as an

1:00:31.720 --> 1:00:36.680
<v Speaker 3>option there. But the offensive potential of a Tatis, you know,

1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:40.320
<v Speaker 3>especially combined out there with what they're going to get

1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:44.040
<v Speaker 3>from Sodo, that woul could be the best outfield duo

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<v Speaker 3>production wise in Major League Baseball, right, I mean, like,

1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:48.800
<v Speaker 3>is there gonna be anything like that?

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<v Speaker 2>We've got two guys that, like if they achieve ninetieth

1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:59.360
<v Speaker 2>percentile outcome for them is what seven wins each? Yeah,

1:00:59.600 --> 1:01:02.200
<v Speaker 2>you've got two seven win players and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think ninety percentile outcome. They're combining for close to eighty

1:01:05.920 --> 1:01:06.880
<v Speaker 3>home runs.

1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Eighty homers, they're combining for two hundred RBIs. Tatis may

1:01:12.480 --> 1:01:15.360
<v Speaker 2>steal forty bags in his own right, And what is.

1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Matt Carpenter going to give them? Like, I don't know

1:01:17.400 --> 1:01:19.360
<v Speaker 3>how much he's going to be playing the outfield, but like,

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:22.600
<v Speaker 3>if he's filling in in spots and playing like this

1:01:22.680 --> 1:01:25.120
<v Speaker 3>guy really raked last year. I'm really interested to see

1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:27.160
<v Speaker 3>what they get from him. Matt Carpenter is a guy

1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:30.360
<v Speaker 3>that was one of the best hitters in the game

1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:33.000
<v Speaker 3>for a span of several years when he was in

1:01:33.040 --> 1:01:35.800
<v Speaker 3>Saint Louis. Another guy that like, yeah he's older, but

1:01:35.960 --> 1:01:39.280
<v Speaker 3>wasn't like forty and made a swing adjustment and found

1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:42.040
<v Speaker 3>something last year. I'm really interested to see what they

1:01:42.080 --> 1:01:43.880
<v Speaker 3>get from him. I know it's not Yankee Stadium that

1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:45.400
<v Speaker 3>he's sitting in, but I think this is a guy

1:01:45.400 --> 1:01:48.400
<v Speaker 3>that can contribute for them too. I just like all

1:01:48.400 --> 1:01:50.600
<v Speaker 3>of the other options that they have there too, to

1:01:50.760 --> 1:01:53.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of mix and match. But the big question is

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<v Speaker 3>is what are you getting from Trent Grisham And.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I say I buy the Grisham bounce back?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I buy what does a Grisham bunce back look like?

1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:04.280
<v Speaker 2>So he's a career seven eleven ops guy after a

1:02:04.320 --> 1:02:07.800
<v Speaker 2>six twenty six ops Last year he had seventeen homers,

1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:09.480
<v Speaker 2>which was a career high, but that's because he played

1:02:09.480 --> 1:02:11.280
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty two games and his next high

1:02:11.280 --> 1:02:13.400
<v Speaker 2>was twenty games fewer than that in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight h eight ops in twenty twenty seven, forty ops

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one, six twenty six in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's seven forty, this is far and away the

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<v Speaker 2>best outfield in the game. And I'm I'm sold on

1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Grisham being my everyday center fielder. If he is seven

1:02:29.640 --> 1:02:33.920
<v Speaker 2>to eleven, if he's career average, I still feel okay

1:02:34.040 --> 1:02:36.640
<v Speaker 2>considering that he's got two goal gloves under his belt.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, if he's seven eleven, that he that's great because

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<v Speaker 3>he what was he six twenty six last year? He

1:02:43.080 --> 1:02:46.320
<v Speaker 3>said six twenty six still matched his f WUR total

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<v Speaker 3>from last year.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so good defensively, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>In the in the shortened twenty twenty season, he was

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<v Speaker 3>on pace for a six win season almost. So, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't think he's gonna do that, obvious,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's gonn the way he hit in

1:03:00.800 --> 1:03:03.640
<v Speaker 3>that hot streak there. But if he gives you a

1:03:03.680 --> 1:03:07.400
<v Speaker 3>hot streak and then finishes the year, you know, right

1:03:07.440 --> 1:03:10.040
<v Speaker 3>around to seven to eleven, seven thirty. If he gets

1:03:10.120 --> 1:03:12.360
<v Speaker 3>up to seven thirty, he's a three to win player,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe above that, maybe coas to three and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>So if That's what you're getting is the compliment to

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<v Speaker 3>what could be the best power hitting corner outfield duo

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<v Speaker 3>and baseball. You're in business. That's the best outfield in baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>That's simple.

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<v Speaker 2>And if anybody is going to challenge Michael Harris for

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<v Speaker 2>the Gold Glove, that isn't Jazz Chisholm. It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be Trent grisha.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a challenge in terms of in their own right,

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<v Speaker 3>in their mind or like actually challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jazz told us that he was going to go

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<v Speaker 2>win a gold Glove. So if Jazz doesn't win it,

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<v Speaker 2>the only guy that holds a candle to Trent Earth,

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<v Speaker 2>the only guy that holds a candle to Michael Harris

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<v Speaker 2>is Trent Grisham.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirteen outs above average.

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<v Speaker 2>Lush Yeah, man, I mean crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that was while sucking at the plate. So

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<v Speaker 3>I love that he can flush that and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not trickle out into the field. It was the best

1:04:00.840 --> 1:04:03.680
<v Speaker 3>defensive outfield season of his career. So if he can

1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:07.200
<v Speaker 3>just get even slightly back closer to his league average

1:04:07.400 --> 1:04:09.560
<v Speaker 3>or to his career average, excuse me, even if he's

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<v Speaker 3>a six to seventy five OPS guy, he's probably closer

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<v Speaker 3>to a three win season. Three wins from your center fielder,

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<v Speaker 3>when you could get seven each from your two corner guys,

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<v Speaker 3>you're in business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, after some debriefing, our three honorable mentions Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>the White Sox, and the Dodgers. Philly is ten, the

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<v Speaker 2>Angels are nine, the Yankees are eight, Cardinals seven met six, Mariners,

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<v Speaker 2>five Blue Jays, four Braves, three Astros two, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Padres are the best team outfield in baseball. You got

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<v Speaker 2>anything else? Because I want to rap with something.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think. I don't think I got anything else?

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<v Speaker 3>What you got? So?

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Wills was the radio voice of the Rays for

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<v Speaker 2>the last decade and a half, and he unexpectedly passed

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<v Speaker 2>at fifty eight years old. And something that I have

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<v Speaker 2>done over the last however many years, five six, seven

1:05:05.440 --> 1:05:09.440
<v Speaker 2>years is listen to pretty much every broadcaster in baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to every TV broadcaster, listened to every radio broadcaster

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<v Speaker 2>in baseball. And there was no broadcast that I enjoyed

1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:21.040
<v Speaker 2>listening to more than Tampa Bay Ray's radio Baues. And

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to way more Tampa radio than you would

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<v Speaker 2>ever expect. And Dave Wills was previously a White Sox

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<v Speaker 2>pre and postgame host. I wasn't you know, an active

1:05:32.640 --> 1:05:34.600
<v Speaker 2>White Sox fan when that happened. He's been in Tampa

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<v Speaker 2>for the last i want to say, eighteen years with

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Freed, though. That duo is and was incredible, and

1:05:42.400 --> 1:05:45.160
<v Speaker 2>my heart goes out to Andy Freed. And Dave Wills

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<v Speaker 2>was no offense to Andy, but my favorite listen of

1:05:49.040 --> 1:05:52.920
<v Speaker 2>baseball radio broadcasters because he was funny as fuck. He

1:05:53.080 --> 1:05:56.320
<v Speaker 2>was so funny. He was like, I mean, if anybody

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<v Speaker 2>was going to talk about cold ones well broadcasting an

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<v Speaker 2>MLB game, it was Dave Wills. So so so thankful

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<v Speaker 2>that in the years that I have learned to love

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<v Speaker 2>baseball on the radio and call baseball in the radio,

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<v Speaker 2>I could turn on Tampa Bay Rays broadcast and listen

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<v Speaker 2>to Dave Wills and that's that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, it's wild. I actually just saw that before

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<v Speaker 3>we recorded, and I was going to ask you because

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know if he was still active. I'm not,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not that briefed on all of the radio broadcasters,

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<v Speaker 3>but I saw a lot outpouring and man, I'm I

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<v Speaker 3>thought you encapsulated that beautifully. And I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 3>back and listen to some stuff, because when whenever you

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<v Speaker 3>say somebody can can broadcast, they can really freaking broadcast.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just it just sucks. Like fifty eight is

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<v Speaker 3>so young, but got to live out the dream and

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<v Speaker 3>and got to be where we all kind of hoped to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be, so and he was so good.

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<v Speaker 3>He loved it. It sounds like I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>He loved it, and like he was so technically good

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<v Speaker 2>at play by play. When you can be so technically

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<v Speaker 2>good and be fun ear than hell, that's the goods man.

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<v Speaker 3>What's what you're trying to do. That's what you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do right now, right like you're getting that.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope, so I hope to be ten percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the broadcaster that Dave Wills was because that guy was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's it for us. Every link and need in

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes, Peter and I will give you a

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<v Speaker 2>World Baseball Classic preview tomorrow. Thanks guys,