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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweerld and welcome to the Now Dunks podcast

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Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, December seventh, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: factory and we had another weggie, so let's just show

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Speaker 1: it to you. Weggie number eleven and it was another

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Speaker 1: block test Terry Rozier blocking Kobe White at the rim,

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Speaker 1: it a weggie, so we love to see it. Back

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and great defense from Terry Rozier. Went to terror

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Speaker 3: He's all right, they lost last night though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the bulls are well, they're not backed up, but

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Speaker 1: had to get the back to the Funeray, I might

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Speaker 1: is how we're recapping a busy night in the association.

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Speaker 1: Eleven games on in total, this was the the loser's

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Speaker 1: night between all the in season tournament fund games. But

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Speaker 1: we had some great games and some big individual performances,

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Speaker 1: and I want to start with that. Best individual performance

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Speaker 3: Give me Daddy donk Luka Doncics forty points, ten rebounds,

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Speaker 1: For how many kids you got this night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Luca did not fight back. He just laughed at him.

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Speaker 1: that's nice stuff. Yeah, but yeah, dwell embiid fifty points.

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Speaker 1: That's the sixth time in his career he's hit that mark.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen to twenty nine from the field test set a

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Speaker 3: He would average fifty points a game if he played

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Speaker 1: Embiide has now scored forty eight or more points in

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Speaker 3: His eyes light up just nuts.

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Speaker 1: A little love to Desmond Bane as well, who went

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Speaker 1: I think I took Bain a bit of a wild

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Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. What the Pistons were doing. They just

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Speaker 2: think about that for a second. That was sad. That

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Speaker 1: But what's the longest losing streak in NBA history? Twenty

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Speaker 3: this was easy for Bayne. I thought as well. It

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Speaker 2: He missed nine straight shots, both in the second quarter

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Speaker 3: more games right now at five. Spurs up next for

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Speaker 3: for that one. Bulls didn't win four straight games all

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Speaker 1: So is that thumbs up for that news?

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Speaker 3: Hey? I don't know. All I know is the Bulls

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Speaker 3: next week when a lot of guys become available. Now

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Speaker 1: That prediction of yours is more and more likely that

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Speaker 2: I mean, they are calling it an injury, But did

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Speaker 2: I don't know. December fifteenth is a big day when

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Speaker 1: Got a color couple other you know nominations. I guess

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Speaker 1: for winn of the night. Maybe the game of the

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Speaker 1: night really Nets over Hawks. Forty three lead changes in

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Speaker 2: This was a great Wednesday night in the Association. I

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Speaker 2: in season tournament night. I don't care. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: I thought. I thought Donovan Mitchell was really good against

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Speaker 2: that was a sweet, sweet move. It's a real Dwayne

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Speaker 2: He does it a lot. We've got a Mo Wagner's

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Speaker 2: short coming, and on all of your social media platforms

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Speaker 2: it's Mo Wagner's doing some things. But Mitchell was doing

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Speaker 2: He had six big assists. Everybody moving the ball, but

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Speaker 2: this is what the Magic problem might be, especially on

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Speaker 2: two in a row, they're two of twenty three for

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Speaker 2: three point land. That's hard to do. Shoot eight percent

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Speaker 1: All right, our next one here, we should get a

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Speaker 3: It's either the Pistons or the Spurs. I mean, shout

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Speaker 3: out to the Wizards. They are also bad. But Detroit

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Speaker 3: has the worst record in the league and they've lost

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Speaker 3: eighteen straight games. Meanwhile, the Spurs have the worst net

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Speaker 3: rating in the league and have lost fifteen straight games. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: these two teams don't play against each other. Until January,

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Speaker 3: so we can really see that's unfortunate. Both teams are

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Speaker 3: think at breaking the all time streak for most losses consecutively,

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Speaker 3: Pistons have the Magic and Pacers, and then a bunch

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Speaker 3: of really tough teams before they get the Jazz December twenty.

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Speaker 3: First the Spurs have the Bulls and the Rockets. Then

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Speaker 3: they've got a bunch of really tough teams before they

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Speaker 3: I think the Pistons have a better chance of breaking

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Speaker 3: but who knows. Spurs are three points worse on point differential,

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Speaker 3: but they've gotten absolutely smashed this season. Three of the

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Speaker 3: They've lost by forty one, forty and thirty six already. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: the Pistons are actually in some of these games. The

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Speaker 3: it's the Spurs, So I don't know. Is it the

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Speaker 3: Pistons at a minus three point seven of the Spurs

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Speaker 3: They're trying to win. They paid Monty Williams the biggest

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Some said the same about the Spurs. I will be

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Speaker 3: start us strong start. But I'm going the Pistons because

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Speaker 2: I'm going with the Spurs because I think the Detroit

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Speaker 2: Pistons have a couple things going forward. I think they

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Speaker 2: Spurs are trying to lose, yes, because they don't play

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Speaker 2: a point guard. They literally don't. They had Jeremy Sohan

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Speaker 2: Yesterday it was Keldon Johnson starting in the backcourt sort

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Speaker 2: because I think Trey Jones really should be starting, but

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Speaker 2: They didn't double the guy who scored forty nine points

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Speaker 2: stuff happening there in Detroit. I don't know either, but

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Speaker 2: heck knows With these two scenarios here, I'll go Spurs

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Speaker 2: because I just don't think they have They actually don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's fair. The Pistons have the fourth

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Speaker 1: And you already talked about the net rating there tray,

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Speaker 1: eight wins. That's the three of them combined. That's how

430
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,360
Speaker 1: rough this is. I think I ultimately go with Detroit.

431
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 1: This is quite a streak here. This is tough to

432
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 1: do in the NBA. I don't care how bad you are.

433
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: There are many off nights for good teams in the league,

434
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,200
Speaker 1: and to rack up that many in a row, it's

435
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 1: that's difficult. But the Wizards, I want to give you

436
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 1: this stat and I want to play trivia with you. Guys.

437
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 1: The Wizards have allowed at least one hundred and thirty

438
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 1: points ten times this season. They lost twelve of the last

439
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: They've lost twelve of their last thirteen games. They're three

440
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,199
Speaker 1: and seventeen. That matches the worst twenty game start in

441
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 1: franchise history. And you got to go back to the

442
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 1: twenty twelve thirteen Wizards for that? Can you tell me

443
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 1: the top five scorers on the twelve thirteen Wizards?

444
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 2: Johnny Wall eighteen point.

445
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: Five points per game?

446
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 3: Yes, Marching Gortat No, no, is that too late? It

447
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 3: might be too late. Randy Foy No, no, no, you guys. Yeah,

448
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,439
Speaker 3: he's in the blue and gold jerseys. Who else was terrible?

449
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 3: Marcus Morris? You got a Morris on there?

450
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,679
Speaker 1: No, you don't have a Morris on there? You got

451
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: a one name guy on this list? Twelve point six?

452
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 1: You're missing a big name. You probably a real bill. Yes,

453
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 1: thirteen point nine points per game.

454
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 3: Those guys both were playing.

455
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they played at least, you know, fifty sixty games.

456
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 1: Whatever the heck? It was two more names.

457
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 2: Drew Gooden, get some reps?

458
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 3: Probably No, No, what year did you say?

459
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 1: Twenty twelve thirteen?

460
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 3: Twelve thirteen? Okay, Otto Porter?

461
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 1: No, good guess this guy had his own television show,

462
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 1: a big hit back in the eighties. No, I'm not

463
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: jokingly that he had had a TV show because of

464
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: his name, because of his last name, Phil Donahue, No,

465
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 1: Peter Belvidere, because of his.

466
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 3: Last because of the Cooper Cooper gotch.

467
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,719
Speaker 1: You probably think of this. You probably think of this

468
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: guy as a blazer. I guess. I think there was

469
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: a Greek guy. I think there was a Greek guy

470
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: as the dad.

471
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 2: I thought you were actually, oh, mister Belvidere.

472
00:21:54,080 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: We're obsessed with mister Belvidere right now. I think, yeah, sure,

473
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 3: Dan well House, no perfect strangers.

474
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: He's a cute, cute kid. That was the lead of

475
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: this show.

476
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 3: He was a cute kid, was the est Home Improvement

477
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor Thomas. I guess Tim.

478
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 4: Webster, Thank you Webster, Martell Dembster, Martel Webster, thank you,

479
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 4: yes eleven points, and then Jordan Crawford, who you were

480
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 4: never going to go.

481
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 3: I think we would have gotten Jordan Crawford guessing before

482
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 3: Martell Webster.

483
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 1: We didn't watch Webster. I guess either it was the

484
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: guy Greek, my crazy JD Test.

485
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: I think so, yes, he had a Greek way about him.

486
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: Anyway, he did have a.

487
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: Greek way about Yeah, I do remember that, but I

488
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 2: never watched Webster. Really, it's just a little bit loved

489
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 2: a little before.

490
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: I missed Webster a little bit.

491
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah that for you, it makes a little more sense.

492
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: I thought you'd be in your wheelhouse.

493
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: You know, there's not been an NBA player whose last

494
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 3: name was Belvitere.

495
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: Wow, just went back, So let me give that to

496
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: you again. The five guys on that twelve thirteen Wizards

497
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: that scored over ten points per game were Wall Beeal,

498
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 1: Jordan Crawford nine, and Martell Webster.

499
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 2: I didn't go Beal because I thought that was the

500
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: year before he was drafted. But that was the year

501
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: he was draft. Yeah, twelve, Yeah, he's coming in. But

502
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: Martel Webster, that show ended in eighty seven. Webster, yes, yeah, yeah,

503
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: not Martell webs So an eighty show, that's my said,

504
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: eighties nineties.

505
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: He said, oh that's what right, Yes, it's probably still

506
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: on somewhere, is it. Okay, I consider it a consider

507
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: Webster at twenty twenty three, show's okay, let's do let's

508
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: just do one more. Let's just do highlight. Yeah, okay, okay,

509
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: I knew that highlight of the night was, uh, tast

510
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: start us off here?

511
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: Oh well, you want something weird. I was watching that

512
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: Cavs Magic game and what was the highlight to me

513
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: was the Waldo costume that somebody had in the Calves arena.

514
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 2: Because I was watching it was actually one hour after

515
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: I read Where's Waldo with my daughter and I'd be

516
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: looking for it. Wow, here we go, Here we go.

517
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: I thought he did a great job looking like Waldo

518
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: because I was looking at Where's Waldo an hour before

519
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: and my daughter was finding Waldo before me every single time.

520
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: So when I saw that an hour later, I thought, Wow,

521
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: found Waldo for once. But he was just cool. I

522
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: like the way he was flexing. He went up double arms,

523
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 2: you know Draymond Green type flex. He was excited about

524
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: the game. He wasn't looking at his phone the whole game.

525
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: He was actually watching the basketball game. So I appreciated Waldo.

526
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: That was the highlight of my name.

527
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: You consider the Waldo's Book an eighties or nineties book.

528
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's current, it's current, it's present.

529
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,239
Speaker 3: For present too.

530
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah when was it first published? When did Waldo first

531
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 1: go missing?

532
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: It is present because they've the Waldo versions now, they

533
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: have like nine versions of Walda within the book.

534
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, like other guys, I have a women men wizards.

535
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's an old g though.

536
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 3: The wizard did you say his name was?

537
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: Did I say it once?

538
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 3: We talked about it. Yes, I saw a guy that

539
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: looks exactly like that walking down the street. I forgot

540
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 3: what the staff, Yes, was literally holding a staff. That's him.

541
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, wizard, that's the Wizards. He whiz right, that wizard.

542
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: G I was gonna say, I have a customized I

543
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: mean basically Waldo book of My dog Luna, Like you

544
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: can get a customized version of these things where they

545
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: like whatever dog I picked, I picked like the dog,

546
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: Like they give me twenty options to pick a dog, right,

547
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: I picked the one that looks the most like my dog,

548
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: and then they put it in all the pages, just

549
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: like they would hide a wall.

550
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: My Luna.

551
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean it's more for U. Yeah, you know, friend

552
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: uh friends, kids and stuff like that. But it's not

553
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: like I'm cracking it out every day. Check out the bites. Okay,

554
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: highlight of the night, Waldo, I love it. Surprise are

555
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: you going with an actual basketball play or something sort

556
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: of randomly?

557
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 3: Well? I also liked in that game Paulo Boncaro's first

558
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: points of the game. He had forty two, a career high.

559
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: Like they threw him the pass as he was cutting

560
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: down the lane. He just barely got a hand on it,

561
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: but it tipped off and went into the hoop. So

562
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: he gets credit for it. He was like smiling. You

563
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: never see him react to anything I feel like on

564
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: the court, so I actually see a grin from Polo Delicious.

565
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,719
Speaker 3: The highlight of the night for me was the end

566
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: of that Nets Hawks game. It was just a big

567
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: shot extravaganza. Like Bridges also hit a layup with thirty

568
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: two seconds to put the Nets ahead. Trey hit the

569
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: big three ice cold seventeen seconds. Then Bridges just a

570
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: little bit taller than DeAndre Hunter on the jumper there

571
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: looking like Paul Pierce from the right elbow. What'd you

572
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: think was Trey Young followed by Dennis Smith Junior on

573
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: that last take to the hoop.

574
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: I could see why they were upset.

575
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: Yes, if you're a Hawks fan, you're probably upset. He

576
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: looked a little off balance to me driving as well,

577
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: and then definitely got a bomp from Dennis Smith Junior,

578
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: which he sold a little bit. Still had a chance

579
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: with the one hand put it on the rim at least,

580
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: but I'm always okay with a no call in those situations.

581
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

582
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: A couple other big plays, two from the Maverick's dominant

583
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: victory Derek Lively the second threw down a monster alley

584
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: oop in traffic off of a Luca pass. It was

585
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: like thrown like low, like out in front of the

586
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: rim bodies everywhere, and he just went and grabbed it

587
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: and obviously finished the alley oop.

588
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: There.

589
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: Rashaun Holmes detonated on Walker Kessler. Kessler's getting dunked on

590
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: left and right here this year is like three monster

591
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: ducks on this guy. That was big. You already said

592
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: the Balaokolabali Wizard's rookie. He sort of blew by Paul

593
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: Reid sort of fast dunked. It got great reactions from

594
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: the Sixers bench. I thought was funny. And then one

595
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: more Jonathan Kuminga, who had a really good game for

596
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: the Warriors in a close win over the Blazers. But

597
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: he had a big baseline dunk off a very pretty

598
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: alleyup pass from Draymond Green with like a minute to

599
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: go in a very tight game. I think they were

600
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: up two at that point. Yeah, and I put them

601
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: up four. And again he had a really really good game.

602
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: He saved the Warriors.

603
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

604
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: Last night, I didn't play the first thirty one minutes,

605
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: then scored thirteen points on six of six shooting, including

606
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 3: that alley from Draymond in the last seventeen minutes of

607
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: the game. We did have a third a final question

608
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: here that we're not going to get to most disappointing

609
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: team this season, and mine was going to be the Warriors.

610
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: They got the win last night, but it did not

611
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 3: look good. Not an impressive win, I didn't think.

612
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: And who were you gonna go with here?

613
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: Oh, straight Pistons. Just to complain a little bit more

614
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: because Jade and Ivy's just chilling on the bench. They're

615
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: playing Sasser, they're playing Alec Burks before him. I mean,

616
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: he is playing, but he's sat the whole first quarter

617
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: yesterday and those guys are playing more Waty Morris is

618
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: going to come back at some point. I just don't

619
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: understand the rotations.

620
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't like that Thompson only played sixteen minutes,

621
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: sass Are only played five minutes. Like, I mean, I

622
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: know you got Bugdanovic back and he's going to eat

623
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: up some of those minutes, but it's not helping them

624
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: win any games here. Like, if you're going to be bad,

625
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: you might as well. I don't lean into like your youth, you.

626
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: Think, yeah, or or a little bit of a tighter rotation, like, yeah,

627
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: you played eleven players last night. Yeah, I don't really

628
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: get why, but Jallen Duran got hurt. This weird stuff

629
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: happening there through money.

630
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's hear from everybody out there filling

631
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: the blanks when it comes to yeah, best individual performance,

632
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: the win of the night, the highlight of the night.

633
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: Worst team in the league. I know we got the poll.

634
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: Do we have a results.

635
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: That we have results? The worst team in the league

636
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: was the Pistons, but I don't have the results.

637
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: Aren't right here?

638
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah they were.

639
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: They were first. Second in votes was the Wizards, and

640
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: third in votes was the Spurs.

641
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: Spurs is just they're lucky. The Pistons are on an

642
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: eighteen game losing streak, and the Wizards stink too, Like

643
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like they're very bad.

644
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: But also they had the number one draft pick this

645
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: last season, like right, like, they're not trying to win,

646
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: whereas the Wizards are paying big time deals to Kuzma

647
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: and to Pool and then the Pistons are obviously trying

648
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: to win.

649
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Okay, JD's born in this Who wants to go to

650
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: a commercial break, So let's go to the commercial. We'll

651
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: be right back. All right, we got something fun in

652
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: store here, Trey. We are going to be ranking the

653
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: top five picks of the twenty twenties. And you've got

654
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: the tier system all ready and loaded.

655
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: That's right, Skeets, it works perfectly. We're about twenty games

656
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: end of the season. We've got twenty top five picks

657
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: in the twenty twenties. Oh, send it, love it. First

658
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: one's going to be easy. We're ranking these by tiers,

659
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: your classic S, A, B, C, and D tiers. Our first,

660
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: Canada is the number one overall draft pick from the

661
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: twenty twenty draft, and I think he's going straight to

662
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 3: the S tier here. It's Anthony Edwards.

663
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: Yep.

664
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the definition of a number one pick.

665
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: You want him to become the cornerstone of your team.

666
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: You wanted to become your franchise leader. And if he's

667
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: super charismatic and beloved, even better, that gets him into

668
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: the S tier.

669
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

670
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: Easy one.

671
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh my god, like they're they're the

672
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: best team in the league right now, right, the.

673
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: Best team in the league right now.

674
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

675
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: They got to win last night as well. Ye, Anthony

676
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: Edwards is hurt right now though, Yes, played a little.

677
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: Bit be uh he got some roast beef last night.

678
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: He got some roast beef last time. Yeah, good stuff.

679
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: This one may be an easy choice for our tier

680
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: as well. James Wiseman. No, he went number two to

681
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: the Warriors in this draft.

682
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah he did.

683
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: He is now the third string center for the Detroit Pistons.

684
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: Yes he didn't even so did he go see just

685
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: to hope that he's still around?

686
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: Probably that's being way too kind.

687
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: He's going to be our lowest rank guy. He's D Yeah.

688
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd put him on E. Yeah I could.

689
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: Yes, since these are all top five picks, he doesn't

690
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: really arrival much here.

691
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: All right. LaMelo ball complicated one great when he plays

692
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: injures his ankles all the time, and of course the

693
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: Hornets are not great.

694
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: No, No, I mean yeah, that run that he was

695
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: on there before he went down with the latest injury

696
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: and was amazing. He was the best ball he has

697
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: been playing, probably of his career. He's obviously been an

698
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: All star before gets numbers. Hasn't turned into a bunch

699
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: of victory. But is it weird to it has to

700
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: be a or B?

701
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

702
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: And I sort of think a, unless we're really holding

703
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: it against him, his his ankles that he got from

704
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: his daddy.

705
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some people that would throw him in

706
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: that ass call.

707
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: Oh I would know WHOA.

708
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, being an All Star still obviously ridiculously young, I

709
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: would put him in a Okay, give it a show.

710
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: You saying that that you're even considering s here, then

711
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm totally fine with a tier. Yeah, and you as well.

712
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: Ah.

713
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually surprised. I probably would have had him

714
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: in bat here because the ankle injuries are a problem

715
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: to me, Like it happens a lot, it tends to

716
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: be bad luck. I do feel like, yeah, lamello, he

717
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: stepped on fans feet in the crowd twice last year.

718
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: But also you're missing a lot of time, so I

719
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: hold it against you. But if you guys want to

720
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: put him in a I am happy because I think

721
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm generally the biggest Lamello guy here.

722
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think we have to meet guys averaging twenty

723
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: five to eight and five. Yeah, and like decent percentages too,

724
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: and on a very bad team, is doing his best. Yeah,

725
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: I like thats fut okay.

726
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: Patrick Williams, he was the four worth picking the twenty

727
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: twenty draft. Falling out of the rotation or at least

728
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: out of the starting lineup, got supplanted by Tory Craig.

729
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: I think this guy's at best a seat tier.

730
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh absolutely, at.

731
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: Best at best. But if yeah, he is like, okay,

732
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: Patrick Williams, he's better than James Wiseman. Now it doesn't

733
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: mean he can't be in the same tier as that, ya,

734
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm fine with a sea tier. You see,

735
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean that look, I mean it's few and far between,

736
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: but you see the flashes. You see why he's a

737
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,239
Speaker 1: top five pick, you really do. But then he's just

738
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: non existent for for games at a time, yes, or

739
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: he's just straight up bad. So I'm fine with a

740
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: seat here. But saybody making the case for D.

741
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: I can't make the case he was better last year

742
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: and that he shot like pretty well from three. He's

743
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: a forty shooting from three. So if you want somebody

744
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: that plays hard and goes after it look somewhere else,

745
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: it's not Patrick Williams. So I I mean, I'm fine

746
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: with a D.

747
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, what would you what would be your call?

748
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: C H D WHOA wow?

749
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately like I've got a Patrick Williams rookie, several

750
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: of them. I was hopeful he was the number four pick.

751
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: He was the fruits of their previous tank, and it

752
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: just has not it has not paid off.

753
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: What about this though he's only twenty two years.

754
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

755
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: It's been in the in the leaf for four years, okay,

756
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: d it is.

757
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, anyways, Uh, he's still better than this guy

758
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: who's our next candidate, the last top five pick of

759
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty draft, Isaac Acoro. I saw him play

760
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: last night.

761
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

762
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 3: He was out there.

763
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: So you think Patrick Williams is better than Isaac Ocorro,

764
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: so then you're putting him in.

765
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: A D I think is a D as well.

766
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you hate the o'coro. He doesn't know scro

767
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: as you said, but he plays defense at the very least,

768
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: he plays hard.

769
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: That's why he gets in the D tier.

770
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's fine. I'm more of a C man

771
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: with ocor hoping. Well.

772
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: I mean, if he's a seed, then Patrick Williams is

773
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: easily a see Patrick Williams.

774
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: Well, that's why. Yeah, that's why I was We're gonna

775
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: have like this entire d row here, but it.

776
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: Might be full. Actually, I don't think we're gonna get

777
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 3: anybody else in.

778
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: The Yeah, now that I look at the rest, you're

779
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: probably right.

780
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: He's the junkyard dog plays perimeter defense. Patty doesn't. Patrick

781
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: Williams doesn't as much.

782
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 3: Anyways, Patrick Williams a better defender, Patrick Williams everything.

783
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Those guys need to be. They need to be in

784
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: the same tier. I think if we're going to see

785
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: or D, which we are, than fine.

786
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: Ocorl has been replaced multiple times. They keep replacing him.

787
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one draft Cad Cunningham. He was the number

788
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: one pick. Obviously, the Pistons are among the three worst

789
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: teams in the league, and Cad he's almost up to

790
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 3: an average player pr Now I think he's at thirteen.

791
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, getting a little bit better.

792
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: It's been making more threes lately. He does get to

793
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: the line a little bit more. To me, he's probably,

794
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: if you want to be kind, he could be a bet.

795
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: Here's where he's an okay player, But he was the

796
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: number one draft pick, so higher expectations.

797
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Good point. I think b feels right,

798
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: but it hasn't been pretty no where. We do tend

799
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: to make excuses for him. Some people think people go

800
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: too far with that. Some say maybe he's just not

801
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: as good as you think he is, or he's going

802
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: to be calm. But I still am holding out hope.

803
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: So I'm fine with a B. Probably a low B.

804
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: That would be my lowest. I think I could squint

805
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: and say A because as soon as everything gets a

806
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: little bit better around him, he gets way better. The

807
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: fact that guys that are one pass away can't hit

808
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: threes on his team like that is more of an

809
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: issue to me, because he has grown ten straight games

810
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: of well, he was thirty nine percent through ten games

811
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: from the three point line. He is growing. I think

812
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: everything gets around him a little bit better so to see.

813
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's good.

814
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 3: He's good, all right, Jalen.

815
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Green's a tough one.

816
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very interesting. Uh, He's kind of been supplanted.

817
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: I feel like in Houston, he felt like he was

818
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: going to be the main part of their rebuild, and

819
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: now he's certainly behind Shangun and the pecking order from

820
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 3: the very same draft. And then they've obviously brought in

821
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks. They brought in Fred van Vliet. They drafted

822
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: another wing player in Aman Thompson this past year. I

823
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: kind of feel like Jalen Green hasn't established himself, probably

824
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: a C tier to me.

825
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I believe in him being a starter on that

826
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: team and being good at it. I like the fact

827
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: that he doesn't just go up and chuck all times.

828
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: They were relying on everybody, like you mentioned Shingoon and

829
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks and Fred and obviously Jabari Smith, Like all

830
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: five of them are capable guys on ema U Duka's team.

831
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: They're trying to get everybody going. So I believe in him.

832
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: I put him at a B and depending on the team,

833
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: I put him higher because I'm a Jalen Green fan.

834
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: I like how he's just going head down to the

835
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: hoop and not just trying to, you know, be a

836
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: twenty eight point guy because that won't work.

837
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a better position for him being around

838
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: Vets and on a sort of a winning team or

839
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: a team at least have plans to win games. So

840
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: I like that He's tough to figure out because he

841
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: really is inconsistent. One game, it's twenty five, twenty six points,

842
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: getting to the line, hitting threes, you know, good percentages,

843
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: and then the next night he'll have your whatever you're

844
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: five or fourteen's, you're four of fifteens. It's like one

845
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: good game, one bad game, or two good games in

846
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: a row two bad games. So that's why I think

847
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: it's difficult to figure out where to put him. His averages.

848
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: You know, they're down against his career numbers. But again,

849
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: that's okay. I think that's that's fine. I think he's

850
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: becoming a better player. So you said, see, you said B.

851
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I think h'm B. I think I think I have

852
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: them sort of on a K level through his career,

853
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: so I would have him low B.

854
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: Okay, but accept that.

855
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay.

856
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: I don't think you want to try and draft a

857
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: six man with the number two pick though.

858
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: No, But yeah, you think that's what eventually he'll be

859
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: becoming this league.

860
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think his ceiling is Zach Lavine. But I

861
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: think his most realistic is like j R. Smith, good players, yeah, yeah,

862
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 3: good athletes.

863
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: And that's good shooters. I mean, and I know it

864
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: would depend on how we would be ranking them, but

865
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: those are to me, like you just said, see to

866
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: sort of a players with Zach Lavine at his best.

867
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: When he's at his best, but he makes sense, is

868
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: all right.

869
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 3: Evan Mobley, third pick in the twenty twenty one draft,

870
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: could have won Rookie of the Year until a second

871
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: half explosion from Scottie Barnes. Evan Mobley, where do you

872
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: put him? I think we would have said likely st

873
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: here after his rookie season. Yeah right, but not anymore.

874
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, not anymore. He's he's probably he's an

875
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: A and yeah.

876
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: Go ahead, yeah, I mean, and he's obviously an incredible defender.

877
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: I've been just a little reluctant to put him up there.

878
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: I've loved him so much. I thought his game was

879
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: going to grow offensively, but it really hasn't. It's just

880
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: he's reliant, but he's taking far last threes. He's playing

881
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: inside the arc now these days, and obviously you want

882
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: him on your team as definitely the highest I probably

883
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: put in my b right now, even though I love him.

884
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Ooh, that seems too low. The guy's the guy's a

885
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: double double machine still in his thirdie season. I mean,

886
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: and you're right, it's tough in today's game. He doesn't

887
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: shoot a three at all. I mean, he really has

888
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: completely removed it, even from attempting them. But sixteen to

889
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: ten with great defense for a very for a young guy,

890
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: it's probably the toughest thing to actually learn and be

891
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: good at in this league.

892
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: He's an a to me, Okay, I can it'scept that

893
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: you think better higher lower than the mellow lower, lower

894
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 3: lower than the'll mellow. Okay, sounds good to me, all right,

895
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: Scotty Barnes. He was the fourth pick in the twenty

896
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 3: one draft. Rookie of the year, great season, rookie season,

897
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: tough season, second year, yeah, but third year he's back, babe,

898
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: He's back.

899
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, am back enough to I'm thinking a tier.

900
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: I don't think you can get to S tier. I

901
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: think some Raptors fans believe it, and hopefully they're right.

902
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean, is he a yeah? Is he a future

903
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: like cornerstone guy? You definitely see it at times and

904
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: then you don't at other times. But I'm fine with

905
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: an eight tier.

906
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: That's the highest I shall go.

907
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

908
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to take over as a

909
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 2: number one offensive guy.

910
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: You don't think he has though at times this season.

911
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: I know the Raptors do not have a set record

912
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: that's going to wow you.

913
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 2: But he's had some nice fourth quarters, yeah he has.

914
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: For sure.

915
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: He's a good defensive player, but yeah.

916
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: He's he's going to be a complimentary to it. Number

917
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: one offensive opportunity guy in a good world.

918
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: I think I would have him above definitely above Mobley personally.

919
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: That's the homework card, no doubt. And yeah, doumb fine

920
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: behind Limoo.

921
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: He's showing more offensive growth I think than Mobley has, Yeah,

922
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: which is good. And uh what he' shot like fifty

923
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 3: percent from three for the first month of the season.

924
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: I don't think that's the case.

925
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: It's come back to earth. He's shooting thirty eight percent

926
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: from three. If you can shoot that, you know in

927
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: a season, that's really really good. But you're right, he

928
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: was red hot at the beginning.

929
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: Here's the player the Raptors took Scotty Barnes over Jalen

930
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: Suggs of the Orlando Magic. He was the fifth pick

931
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: in the twenty one draft. A lot of people had

932
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: him mocked at number four to the raft. Uns kind

933
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: of indistinguished first couple of seasons, but he's been a

934
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: part of the Magic surprising start. I think to start

935
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: this season does that get him to the bes here?

936
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: Or is he like a C with the defense and

937
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: the energy.

938
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's this is the debate here. Is he B

939
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: or C? Is he at the end of the B

940
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: is at the top of the sea?

941
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a hardcore energy guy obviously. Actually, his shooting

942
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: is a little bit better than I expected, being at

943
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: thirty six percent from three. He has improved year over

944
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: year of a year.

945
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: Well, he has.

946
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: Seems like a classic C to me.

947
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need somebody in the sea here as well.

948
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: Think that's right.

949
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: I was looking a little empty there. I look a

950
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 3: little empty there. He's a starter, but I feel like

951
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: the Magic still would upgrade him if they could find

952
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: the right player.

953
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: It's a fascinating card question the way we're doing this,

954
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: but I think the answer is yes. It's like if

955
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: if we had those three guys Caid, Jalen Green and

956
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: Sugs and they were available to be picked by any

957
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: team in the league, who you take in first team X.

958
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: I think most of them are probably taking those two

959
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: guys ahead of Sugs, So I think so you think

960
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: slots in nicely there?

961
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 3: All right? Next Draft twenty twenty two, our number one pick,

962
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: Paolo Boncio Riokie of the Year, fourth place, FOBA World

963
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: Champion medal. They don't give you a medal for that one.

964
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: No strong start for the Magic this season, forty two

965
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 3: last night for me, Polo is currently an A tier,

966
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: potential s tier in the future. Yeah, I'm a fan.

967
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: I'm a big post so am I.

968
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to see him get better at free

969
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: throw shooting. That's a weird little thing. He needs to

970
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: get better at the line for some reason. He'll help

971
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: shoot or whatever it is, but can hit the three

972
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: right now and has takeover mentality, is super young, has

973
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: his team winning games, big reason why. So it's it

974
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: is either s here because you're fully in on it,

975
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: or it's a tier. Where do you go?

976
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd go. Such a sellable guy as well, he

977
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: is going to sell tickets make money for the Orlando Magic. Yeah.

978
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: Obviously a great defender as well. Somehow, some way, he's

979
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: way better at shooting threes than free throws, which is

980
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: really weird, but I believe in. I believe in.

981
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're going a tier though we're not putting

982
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: him on the level of Anthony Edwards.

983
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: But at the top. I like that yeah, I think

984
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: that's good. Oh yeah, he might get supplanted here though

985
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: by Chat. Holmgren, the number two pick in the twenty

986
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: two draft, obviously didn't start his career until this season.

987
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: But Chet's awesome, Yeah he is. Yeah, Chet's a Chat

988
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: will be in the S tire someday, right, I think

989
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: not yet, though not yet. But I would have him

990
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: no lower than the A tier.

991
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: I agree. But where are you gonna put him? Like

992
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: our teams over pell?

993
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah I did think they would.

994
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

995
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, I don't know. Maybe I know,

996
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: maybe I know he didn't. They had the chance that

997
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: they didn't. It's true.

998
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well, okay, we're agreeing on the A tier.

999
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree on the A tier.

1000
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: It's just where we slaught.

1001
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: He's damn good. He's gonna any benefits from playing with

1002
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 2: such great players and not having everything on his shoulders

1003
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 2: kind of thing.

1004
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I mean, if we swapped Chett

1005
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: and Wemby, I mean, yeah, that's a fair point. That's right. Okay,

1006
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: So we are we putting him behind Polow, ahead of Polo,

1007
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: behind Lamello, ahead of Lamello. Where's Chety going slipping in that?

1008
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: Skinny Man right there.

1009
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. I kind of like him next

1010
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: to to Polo. Yeah, I kind of do.

1011
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: Keep that synergyeah, okay, keep that one two synergy.

1012
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: Definitely over Barnes and Mobile. Yes, I think that's clear.

1013
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: This guy is a great defender, getting after it like

1014
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: two and a half blocks, and he's great offensively, and

1015
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: he can stay on the floor, So i'd put him

1016
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: over at the mellow. It's not getting injured, oh yeah,

1017
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: oh yeah, that whole season he did get it.

1018
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: I love I love all the anecdotes you're hearing though

1019
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: about you know, guy, like he's got an attitude. He's

1020
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: like all these like vets that are usually very hard

1021
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: on rookies are obviously going to test rookies like, oh yeah, no,

1022
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: he's got it. He's got that mentality. So that's sort

1023
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: of fun. So okay, I like where you got him

1024
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: there in the in the A tier group for sure.

1025
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: Number three pick Jabari Smith Junior. He was maybe gonna

1026
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: go number one in this draft.

1027
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: I like him.

1028
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: He's a solid player. He's been hitting the glass, been

1029
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: hitting some threes. Just seems to be a supporting player.

1030
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: I feel like he's a beer guy kind of yeah, yeah, yeah.

1031
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, is anybody gonna try and sell

1032
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: me on a on a low e tier? But I

1033
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: think b is He's He's good. He's just good.

1034
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: He's good.

1035
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: This guy I don't think is going to be a

1036
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: superstar on any team, but you can see him having

1037
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: a very long career and helping out. So yeah, that

1038
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: seems like a Bee guy to me.

1039
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: The Rocket starting lineup is full of capables, good, good

1040
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: players in to me is Jayalen Green and friends. So yeah,

1041
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: I think he should join the Bees.

1042
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: Would we have him at the bottom of the considering

1043
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: we have Kate and Jail in there, or like, I think.

1044
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 3: I would take Jabari Smith over Jalen Green at least.

1045
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, put him in the middle then I think

1046
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: Kate still most people will be taking him over Jabari.

1047
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: Jalen's got hope. But I understand, now, I understand right.

1048
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 3: Now, Okay, all right. Keithan Murray, he was the number

1049
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: four pick, not the ball incredibly last season for the Kings.

1050
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm not shooting it quite as well this season, but

1051
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: he's trying to play defense and now he's got a

1052
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 3: win brother in the league as well.

1053
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: He does, so that does that help him in the Yeah, Yeah,

1054
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: he's really bad at shooting right now. Although the last

1055
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: couple of games he's getting to going. He had four

1056
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: against the Pelicans, went two for five and the Nuggets win,

1057
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: So that's gonna tick up. The guy's not gonna be

1058
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: a thirty percent three point. He's got a beautiful streak.

1059
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: He's confident enough. He is playing defense. I've talked about

1060
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: that a ton. He's at least trying on that end.

1061
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: I like what I've seen Hi from that side of

1062
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 1: the floor. So I think he's a bee Kegan Murray.

1063
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: I think he I'm high on him. You're You're You're

1064
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: not as high.

1065
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I like him.

1066
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: I can't he should be an air.

1067
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: And see when I'm saying, I think it's between B

1068
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: and C for me. He's an older guy as a

1069
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: as a young player, and he just looks he's probably

1070
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: a beatire like. Yeah, him and Jabari Smith Junior could

1071
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: have very similar careers being the third best guy on

1072
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: a lot of good teams.

1073
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: That's a complimentary guy. That's absolutely true.

1074
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: Again, I am I'm like, I am taking into consideration

1075
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: last year and obviously his potential if it was just

1076
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: this season, then yeah, he's probably lower. But you know

1077
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: it's his entire breadth of work here, So beacher.

1078
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: All right. Final draft pick of the twenty twenty two draft,

1079
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 3: our number five pick, Jade and Ivy. Tough to say

1080
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 3: what we've seen from idea. I mean, he was okay

1081
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: last season. I feel like he's been okay when he plays,

1082
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: but they keep him off the court quite a bit.

1083
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Monty's fault. It's all Monty's fault. He's good,

1084
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: he's good, he's better than what he's showing. He's at

1085
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: least he's at least to see would you put him

1086
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: higher than Jalen Sugs? It is really the question here.

1087
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so yeah, I don't know. It's tough.

1088
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: It's just impossible to say what what okay at this?

1089
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: What's what's Jaden Ivy's like best case scenario that he

1090
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: turns into it. What's his ceiling and then what's maybe

1091
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: more his realistic sort of outcome.

1092
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: That's a ceiling. Okay, his ceiling is Reggie Jackson, who okay.

1093
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: They love crouching in your basement.

1094
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson's good man. Like he's had a ten year career. Okay, yeah,

1095
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 3: what you want me to say, John Wall, No, no, no,

1096
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find an athletic guy who's a pretty

1097
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: good scorer with the ball in his hands, and you

1098
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: don't really know what else he does.

1099
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you mentioned j R. Smith. He's not

1100
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: as good as shooter right now, as Jared Smith, but

1101
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: that type of guy.

1102
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: Okay, so literally right now his ceiling is Reggie and

1103
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: what his floor or his comp that he could be

1104
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: is Dennis Smith junior. That's not a great, great window.

1105
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: I hope we get more from him, either in Detroit

1106
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: or yeah, in a potential trade or something, and gets

1107
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: unleashed on a new team.

1108
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 2: He came through last year, they started him every single game.

1109
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 2: Here you go, you're the guy. This year, he's injured,

1110
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 2: then he comes off the bench. So Manty just doesn't

1111
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: trust me.

1112
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: They don't trust him.

1113
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: No, so I think he should be better.

1114
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So we have him at C. We don't think.

1115
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: We think it's a little crazy to put him in

1116
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: the d's so we're putting him what behind sucks? Wow,

1117
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: we don't even love it, you know, we don't love it.

1118
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 3: Well, I mean Patrick Williams should be a c if

1119
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: I was trying to say, Patrick Williams, all right, man,

1120
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 3: you're talking me into it. I was looking at I'm

1121
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 3: looking at these guys. Yeah, that's right, all right. Controversial

1122
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: here number one pick in the twenty three draft, Victor

1123
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 3: weeban Yama. Does he make it in the S tier

1124
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 3: because of who he is? Or do you want to

1125
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: be realistic about it and say he's probably in the

1126
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 3: A tier right now?

1127
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: Put him up there?

1128
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: You think we need somebody else up there?

1129
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's hope. It's a dream that this guy

1130
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: actually makes it to what he's supposed to be.

1131
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 3: I can't even garden oz reed.

1132
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: It's gotta work out, jokes, jokes, he's gotta work out more,

1133
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 2: he's gotta get bigger.

1134
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: You're gonna put him in the stre eh?

1135
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: Why not?

1136
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: I think he should be in the eight tier.

1137
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: Where would you put him? Yeah? That's fine. Him and

1138
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: home right beside Chet Holmgren. It's their dream. Yeah, relationship

1139
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: right there.

1140
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's only December twenty twenty three.

1141
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: You know, the guy has barely played, barely played, and

1142
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: he's been Look, they've been both of those guys chat

1143
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: and web have been awesome. Yeah, they really have. Like's

1144
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: the impact on both ends? Hey for awesome?

1145
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: It's right all right. B. For Brandon Miller, he's up next,

1146
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 3: the number two pick in the draft. This past year,

1147
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: he's had some moments I think with the Hornets, but

1148
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: they obviously are really struggling. A solid B to me,

1149
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 3: I would say, I agree.

1150
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got no problems with a guy that can

1151
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: shoot thirty nine percent from deep and you know, does

1152
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: contribute his tries. When you see him out there, he's

1153
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: like he's you know, he's not They don't exploit him

1154
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Okay, yeah, B all right, I

1155
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: don't care, really care where we slot him in there.

1156
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: He's right in the middle basically.

1157
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. I totally agree. You've got hopes for him, and

1158
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: it's a good start, very good start.

1159
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. Scoot Henderson number three pick. He's wearing

1160
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: goggles now, m Yeah, I wonder if they're prescription.

1161
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: I thought I was told that he wore goggles because

1162
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: he has contacts in and that they didn't want him

1163
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: messing with his contacts, like poking his own eye. Maybe

1164
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: he couldn't like stop touching them or something. Somebody can

1165
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: that's pretty weird. No, it's really weird.

1166
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, their prescription goggles.

1167
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying he is wearing contacts like.

1168
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 2: Ever.

1169
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: I sware I heard that lot of lenses on your phone.

1170
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: It's a good reason for him starting slows these new.

1171
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah vision, he's adjusting to his eyes. I think he's

1172
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: a c right now. Hasn't done much to start his career,

1173
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: has been injured in and out of the lineup. He's

1174
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: back now.

1175
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have him ahead of both those guys.

1176
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: And see, okay, would you pick Brandon Miller over him

1177
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: if it was redone, if the if the whole, if

1178
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: the draft was redone.

1179
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: Am I trying to win a like win a game tomorrow? Yes, yeah, yeah,

1180
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: But if it's like still the idea of like this

1181
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: guy's a potential franch guys guy, or you're hoping that,

1182
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: then I'm sure the equation changes a little bit there.

1183
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: But right now, yeah, I gotta go Brandon over Scoot.

1184
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 3: That's fair.

1185
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: From what we've seen through.

1186
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: Twenty through so far, he has not been good.

1187
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, talking twins here.

1188
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 3: Number four pick Amen Thompson just had a huge game

1189
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: in the G League. HM with the League Team Vipers, Vipers,

1190
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 3: Real Grand Vadley Vipers.

1191
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: Yes, I think so, I think to be called that.

1192
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he had a near five by five

1193
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 3: in the G League. Actually, yes, people were tweeting at us. Yeah,

1194
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: but he's he's in a tough spot. There's just so

1195
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 3: many guys on the Rockets right now. We've already gone

1196
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: through two of them. They signed two free agents over

1197
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: the summer who played similar positions to Thompson as well,

1198
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 3: and then their best player is another young guy in

1199
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 3: Shan Gun. So I don't really know what to do

1200
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: with this Thompson.

1201
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is he's been this. Of all the guys,

1202
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: has he played maybe the fewest, Oh, yes, for sure.

1203
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: He's played four games in the NBA. Okay, no, it's

1204
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 1: not very many, and it's not like he was lighting

1205
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: it up in those games. I think he sort of has.

1206
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: To be to start.

1207
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can work his way out.

1208
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: But I am still a fan of both of the

1209
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: Thompson twins. Yeah, Okay, sure, Okay, they just could We

1210
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything.

1211
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 3: We haven't seen enough to know. So if there was

1212
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 3: an I n C, maybe you could get that. Our

1213
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: final draft pick, the fifth pick this past draft twin

1214
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 3: to Amen Thompson, it's a sar. We have seen a

1215
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: lot of him, Oh yeah, We've talked to him up

1216
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: a lot.

1217
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: It's been incredible.

1218
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 3: He's not making shots, but he's doing everything.

1219
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: Else that's right sick. He's already like sort of appearing

1220
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: to be one of the better perimeter defenders in the league,

1221
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: at least for his size and all that he can

1222
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: do like blocks and steels and getting at it on

1223
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: that and rebounding. I know that was like a huge

1224
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: thing for a guy his size.

1225
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

1226
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: But where are you putting them? You're not putting them

1227
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: with those a guys, are you?

1228
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, not at this point. For me,

1229
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 2: he has an incredible defender. Hmm. The highest I'm putting

1230
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 2: him beat for me, But at the end of the bees,

1231
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: to me.

1232
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 3: I think that works. I think I would probably have

1233
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: him behind Keegan Murray here in the beat.

1234
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: Here, Okay, throw it back up there, JD. I want

1235
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: to see where we're slotting them when we look at

1236
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: all these bees, because we've got Kae Jabari, Jalen Green,

1237
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 1: Brandon Miller, Keegan and then yes, one of the Thompson

1238
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: twins there so are Yeah, sure, I like that.

1239
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: Okay, there it is, there, it is. I don't know.

1240
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 3: I'm feeling bad for my guy, Patrick Williams. I think

1241
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 3: he should get in that seat too, Okay, I'm okay

1242
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 3: with that. Yeah, it's just a stander role player. There's

1243
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 3: a standard role player right there. Nice and it makes

1244
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: our bell curve look even better. Yeah, you know, perfect distribution.

1245
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: All right.

1246
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: Now, we've got through what twenty twenty draft picks in

1247
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 3: the twenty twenties in the top five one S tier

1248
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: player and Anthony Edwards. Our A tier goes Paulo Boncaro,

1249
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 3: Chet Holmgren, Victor Wemban, Yama, LaMelo Ball, Scottie Barnes and

1250
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 3: Evan Mobley. Our B tier, Ky Cunningham, Jabari Smith Junior,

1251
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: Jalen Green, Brandon Miller, Keegan Murray, Asar Thompson. The Sea

1252
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 3: tier goes Scoot Henderson, Jalen Suggs, Patrick Williams, Jade and

1253
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 3: Ivy and then our D tier I'm and Thompson. Sorry,

1254
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: you should get an I n C. Yeah, followed by

1255
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 3: Isaaca Carro and James Wiseman.

1256
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1257
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 3: I think that's a fair breakdown.

1258
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: Here, man. I can't wait to see I would put

1259
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: Isaacacre right beside Patrick Williams just to see I'm gonna watch.

1260
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna be watching that one closely.

1261
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: Seiss a coro eight points per per game. What do

1262
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: you got? Wow?

1263
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: I like it?

1264
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 3: Not bad.

1265
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean I wonder which one is gonna like come

1266
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: back to bite us in the ass because it always happens.

1267
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: But you know, will it be will it be amend?

1268
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: Because he should be a nine C? Possibly? Will it

1269
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: be you fool? See Ce Wemby should be an s

1270
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: chat maybe if you want.

1271
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 3: To go, who do we have? Too high?

1272
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: Perhaps too high?

1273
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: We have.

1274
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: Somebody in the A. I think we have to pick?

1275
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I oh yeah, I don't know.

1276
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: I like a race.

1277
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: I feel like LaMelo Scotti and Evan Mobley would realistically

1278
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: when you look at it, probably be in like an

1279
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: A and a half tier, okay, because you would definitely

1280
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 3: take Polo Chet and Wemby over those three. Yeah, but

1281
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 3: you would also take LaMelo Scotti and Evan Mobley over

1282
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 3: all the guys.

1283
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: In the beach here.

1284
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: So I don't know, Yeah, in the right spot, yep, yeah,

1285
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: A and a half.

1286
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: I like Mobley at the end of the A tier

1287
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: because of those guys he feels the least likely to

1288
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: be a star, the number one guy in a team

1289
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: where all the other guys have are proving it that

1290
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Speaker 1: they can be or we think they'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: So there it is cool, tier maker, you got the

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Speaker 1: best of me. That's fun, good stuff there. T all right,

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Speaker 1: we gotta take one more break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: A very simple tweet of the night. Love to see

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Speaker 1: the sickos here in the stream, team debating the tears.

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Speaker 1: You know, people saying, oh, that person's too high, that

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Speaker 1: person should be over that person. Oh my god, you

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Speaker 1: need another tier. Somebody said we should have S, S

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Speaker 1: tier and S tier to differentiate between these star players. Man,

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Speaker 1: how many tears? What if we just made a tier

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Speaker 1: for every single person, every single player, like fifty tiers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it would just be like ranking on order. Here's my

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Speaker 1: tier idea number one. Okay, that's the first ranking. Number two,

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Speaker 1: that's the second ranking, and so on. Okay, let's get

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Speaker 1: to tweeted.

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Speaker 3: The night.

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Speaker 2: Tweet over and now, wow, twitter the.

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Speaker 1: Night from at NBA. You ever heard of it? No

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Speaker 1: simple tweet from them? And I actually just pulled the

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Speaker 1: video because we have our first look at the semi

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Speaker 1: final court for the n Season Tournament tonight in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Both games will be going down in this in the

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Speaker 1: T Mobile Arena there in Vegas, Blue.

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Speaker 2: And red Piston's playing versus the Sixers. I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed with this NBA colors. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be black and gold, that's what we thought. They

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Speaker 1: dropped the ball and they dropped the floor on this.

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Speaker 2: One, especially especially when they didn't allow the Lakers to

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Speaker 2: wear their black jerseys, saying that it would blend in.

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Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, it's gonna be black and gold.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. They were actually just like, no, we got

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Speaker 1: too many colors. That black is gonna look really weird

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Speaker 1: on this.

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Speaker 2: Like the Raptors pulled off I mean they pulled off

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Speaker 2: the black.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the aesthetic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we thought.

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Speaker 1: We all were thinking, Oh, that's gonna be cool. Oh

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Speaker 1: gold black vibes here, the gold cop the NBA Cup

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Speaker 1: and no red and blue. What you're gonna do? I

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Speaker 1: think it looks like shit? Sorry, uh yeah, but you said.

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Speaker 1: The NBA preventing the Lakers from wearing their black City

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Speaker 1: Edition uniforms because of concerns over the visual contrasts between

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Speaker 1: those jerseys and the design of this specialized court. According

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Speaker 1: to that's what it's that's what they're saying. According to

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Speaker 1: Dave mcmanhamon, when one Lakers player was informed the team

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be allowed to wear black on Thursday, he replied,

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Speaker 1: that's ass.

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Speaker 2: Who said it on the Lakers players?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Which Lakers player said that's ass when they found

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Speaker 1: out they couldn't wear their city editions?

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Speaker 2: Or Lebron saying that's ass?

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Speaker 1: You don't think why? Why why wouldn't Dave credit it

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Speaker 1: to one of these guys. They must have said that's ass. Hey,

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Speaker 1: don't don't tell them it's not bad bad.

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Speaker 3: I'm leaning on the younger end of things. A lot

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Speaker 3: of people are thinking Austin Reeves, Aston Reeves, who else,

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Speaker 3: asked Christy Max.

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Speaker 2: Christie, it's got to be a young guy.

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Speaker 3: Young people say that's ass, that's ass people.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So who said it?

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Speaker 2: Lebron?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I think Lebron would want his quote.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he wants to give me that pen.

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Speaker 3: He called Adam Silver a genius. He did for this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Not for the court, No, no, no, the court, for

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Speaker 3: the turn?

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Speaker 2: Why did they pick red and blue? I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: I think is right. You know, we've always had sort

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Speaker 1: of red I mean the colors representative for the conferences too,

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Speaker 1: you know, in all Star Games past and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean literally, like, just put a

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Speaker 1: big red stripe down my sweater right now, and that's

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Speaker 1: your your floor, right pretty much. It's sort of a

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Speaker 1: similar color.

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Speaker 3: I do like it, though everybody's like, I don't know

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Speaker 3: about these red courts. I don't know about these blue

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Speaker 3: courts about both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we got the ist semifinals tonight, just to

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Speaker 1: remind you. Early start here for everyone, five o'clock PM

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Speaker 1: Eastern on ESPN, Pacers, Bucks, and then we have at

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Speaker 1: nine o'clock on TNT the Pelicans and Lakers, and we're

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Speaker 1: jumping on playback for that first one. Weird five pm,

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Speaker 1: come join us and have dinner with us, an early dinner.

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Speaker 3: They do at five pm.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's just because I mean, I'm just convinced that

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Speaker 1: it's the one arena situation, then why not do.

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Speaker 3: Two arenas or two days or two days? Sure, five

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Speaker 3: pm is a bad start time for a game that

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Speaker 3: you're trying to have people watch on the East Coast.

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01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 3: Maybe you're out of work, not Milwaukee. No, and not

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Speaker 3: to mention if you're actually there, it's two o'clock. Doesn't

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Speaker 3: make sense.

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Speaker 1: It's very strange.

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Speaker 3: We could have just had one game last night at

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Speaker 3: seven o'clock and one game tonight at seven o'clock easily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Don't you think the team that would have played

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday though, would then or excuse me, the team

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Speaker 1: that would have played tonight on Thursday would be upset

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Speaker 1: that the team on Wednesday, that one that went to

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Speaker 1: the final had another day of rest.

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Speaker 3: Well. No, because you play the first to Eastern Conference

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Speaker 3: games on Monday, the second two Eastern Conference games on

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Speaker 3: or the Western Conference games on Tuesday, then you play

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Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference on my finals on Wednesday, so they're

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Speaker 3: rested the same amount from the Monday games.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. The final play on Saturday, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: and then on the Eastern Conference winner would be like

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01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 1: we got more rest than than the Western Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I think they don't have two arenas in Vegas. They

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01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: don't probably have two arenas. They feel comfortable doing this

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Speaker 1: out where.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, there's a lot of arenas in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: They bill not eighteen thousand seed arena.

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Speaker 3: You gotta sell eighteen thousand seats at two pm? Probably

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01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 3: not probably thirty game at two pm in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the week.

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Speaker 2: I know they're gonna close all the buffets at one

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01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: pm and say you gotta go to this game, now

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Speaker 2: get there at two I think they're gonna cop a

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Speaker 2: lot of people, a lot of people two p. It's

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Speaker 2: a lot of seats. It's a big arena for two P.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think it's Yeah, maybe seventeen eighteen

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Speaker 1: thousand there the T Mobile arena. Well, okay, well we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Let's see who's in attendance. How many people are there tonight?

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Speaker 3: Chris Angel who's watching Chris Chilling? Sure, Tom Jones sitting courtside.

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Speaker 3: They should have some sick halftime X. You're in Vegas, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they mentioned, I don't think so, what about they can

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Speaker 3: get the Las Vegas mob from the.

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Speaker 1: Ball Interesting, that's a big arena. That's that's a small

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01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: arena at Ulpis campus. Yeah, yeah, that's right, oh UNLV. Yeah,

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01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: unfortunately was obviously just what happened there on campus. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: we will be watching, Okay, some of us at five

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Speaker 1: o'clock on come join us the Linkers in the show notes,

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Speaker 1: and then that second game at nine o'clock. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the over under for Pacers Bucks two fifty four and

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: a half. It is believed to be the highest in

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Speaker 1: modern NBA history.

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01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: The book's just at a twenty three point game, but

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01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 3: it's probably why it's so high because they play. They're

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Speaker 3: playing pretty well defensively.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of offense in this first

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01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: game between the Pacers and Bucks and then Peals and Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait. We'll be back here tomorrow for the Drop

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01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: podcast to break down those games, hopefully joined by somebody

1438
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: on the scene in Vegas can tell us what that

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01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: court looks like with their very own days. So tape

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01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: tune for stay tuned for that, and yeah, we'll have

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01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of other fun there on the Drop Till then, though,

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01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: Clipper bro well JD, you was sorry man, and we

1443
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: got a survivor podcast. Do you care? I hope you care?

1444
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: Come join us at one pm Eastern, No bus, baby,

1445
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: it's a perfect time you get in. There's only two

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01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: episodes left. Break down.

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Speaker 2: Maybe those contestants will show up at the games today,

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: why not or not?

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01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 3: They might actually they might hear.

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: That would be very sad if they're announcing as their celebrities.

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01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: Drew In Austin from Survivor forty five are here for

1452
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: the five o'clock Buckspacers game.

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01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 3: I think Caleb will be watching though.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he's a second for sure. Okay, Clipper bros.

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01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up,

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: love you guys awesome, thanks.

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01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: For joining us. And remember Wayne Newton will be at

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01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 2: the games. He's got to

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Speaker 1: Basically