Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready,
Speaker 1: let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on Wrestling It Over Live. We are here every
Speaker 1: day Monday through Friday, a New Pacific, three Eastern Sundays,
Speaker 1: three Pacific, sixth Eastern Thursday. Here in this program, you
Speaker 1: know that means last night a e W dynamite. We'll
Speaker 1: have a recap of the show later on here in
Speaker 1: the program, which you think of the show last night,
Speaker 1: lots of lots of interesting things. We're heading towards the
Speaker 1: Winter is Coming show just taking place in two weeks,
Speaker 1: which is where we are going to get the Hangman
Speaker 1: Page versus Brian Danielson match, and that of course leads
Speaker 1: to well, we'll see where that leads. Because the next
Speaker 1: pay per view is not until March, but we do
Speaker 1: have a Battle of the Belt show coming up in
Speaker 1: early January, and they're very strongly pushing m j F
Speaker 1: as a future contender for Hangman's title, so it's gonna
Speaker 1: be very interesting to see what they what they do.
Speaker 1: Got a lot of updates from the show, We've got
Speaker 1: updates on Rampages coming Friday. We'll have non spoiler lineup
Speaker 1: for the Rampage Show. And yes, we will talk about
Speaker 1: Cody lighting himself on fire at the end of that
Speaker 1: Dynamite show last night. I got stuff to say about that.
Speaker 1: God bless the guy, but I'm not sure about lighting
Speaker 1: yourself on fire. But we'll talk about that as well
Speaker 1: as Beth Phoenix, who was leaving n x T after
Speaker 1: War Games on Sunday. She is the second person to
Speaker 1: announce that they're leaving n x T after Scotty too Hattie,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about why she says she's leaving and
Speaker 1: where she actually might be going. And I think Mike
Speaker 1: actually talked about this a couple of days ago. We've
Speaker 1: got w w e's new program clearing a pathway from
Speaker 1: Holidge Athletics to w w E. They're all in on
Speaker 1: this no more indie workers deal. It's all gonna be
Speaker 1: training them from scratch from college. I'll tell you about
Speaker 1: that here today, as well as Dane White getting COVID
Speaker 1: War Games ratings, the n x T War Games Go
Speaker 1: Home Show, and much much more, plus a big exciting
Speaker 1: announcement after the break everybody stick around Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 1: I got the show. Bright Albert is here Wrestling Observer Alive.
Speaker 1: Mike Sumburbb also Wrestling Observer dot com and Yes, ran
Speaker 1: this program. I announced said this coming to day, Dan
Speaker 1: Housing is going to be on the show. We're talking
Speaker 1: about is his recent injury and his recovery and just
Speaker 1: plug a bunch of merch but an inedition to that,
Speaker 1: by popular demand, the twitch homies here. You may not
Speaker 1: know this, perhaps you do, but they they raised twelve
Speaker 1: hundred dollars to pay for me to do this program
Speaker 1: in an Oorca costume, and we had not chosen a
Speaker 1: day yet. I had wanted to do it Tuesday because
Speaker 1: I thought it might be fun to a raw report
Speaker 1: as Orio the Orca. But it was suggested to me,
Speaker 1: why don't you, Why don't you do it on the
Speaker 1: Tuesday the Dan Housing is on and so I I, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain what I did. I
Speaker 1: basically asked Dan Housing if he cared, But anyway, the
Speaker 1: point is this coming Tuesday, Orio the Orca will be
Speaker 1: co hosting this show with Mike simperviv and we will
Speaker 1: be interviewing Dan Housing. Dan Housing and Oreo the Orca
Speaker 1: one time only. You ain't ever gonna see this again
Speaker 1: this coming Tuesday, Unwrestling Observer Live, so you can all
Speaker 1: look forward to that. I'm pretty excited, bro, you better
Speaker 1: be ready to step up that day. I'm not even
Speaker 1: sure I can do this. Why, I don't know. I've
Speaker 1: never even put the thing on in this in this room.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna in there. Yes, you can.
Speaker 1: You got several days to plan for it. It's not
Speaker 1: about It's not about my mental No, you're right, it's
Speaker 1: not about It's not about you. These people donated a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of money for you to throw this thing on.
Speaker 1: And really why they donated the money was to help
Speaker 1: whale scout and to actually do you know, real things
Speaker 1: in nature, So that's why they really did it. But
Speaker 1: also they get the extra advantage of seeing you as
Speaker 1: Oreo the Orcas. So what are you gonna do? Raise
Speaker 1: this money? Say you're gonna do it, bring Dan Housing on,
Speaker 1: and then not do it. I think you better figure.
Speaker 1: Let me make it very clear. I said I would
Speaker 1: wear the costume during the show, which I will do
Speaker 1: the show maybe sixty minutes of me sitting here saying
Speaker 1: nothing in a whale costume. I will attempt I will
Speaker 1: attempt to do the show wearing the costume. One way
Speaker 1: or the other. I will be in costume, whether I
Speaker 1: can actually physically do the rest of the show. You
Speaker 1: may be doing a lot of talking that day. We're
Speaker 1: gonna find out this coming Tuesday, everybody, and yes it
Speaker 1: will be free. You're on Twitch and YouTube and sports
Speaker 1: byline replays at video. Don fw online dot com said,
Speaker 1: oh miss out. Why don't you get Dan Housing actually
Speaker 1: getting an orchid costume as well too. That kills the gimmick.
Speaker 1: Our faces will look very similar, I think, black and white.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the news here. So last week we
Speaker 1: talked about how Scotty Too Hottie announced that he was
Speaker 1: leaving an XT. He said, you know, I always promised
Speaker 1: myself that I would never do a job just for
Speaker 1: the money, and I have found of late that I
Speaker 1: am in fact doing this just for the money. And
Speaker 1: so he put in his notice and we were we
Speaker 1: were essentially told by somebody that you know, it's a
Speaker 1: bigger story than people think, and he ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: the last. And sure enough, here we are. Beth Phoenix
Speaker 1: will be departing the n XT commentary desk following War Games.
Speaker 1: She issued a statement today announcing she's decided to step
Speaker 1: away from her weekly n XT commentary role to spend
Speaker 1: more time with her family. She noted she will remain
Speaker 1: part of w w E. Phoenix has been a member
Speaker 1: of the n XT commentary team alongside Vic, Joseph and
Speaker 1: Wade Bear a head of War Games. I wanted to
Speaker 1: share that this Sunday will be my final night in
Speaker 1: n X t well. I will remain a part of
Speaker 1: w w E. I've made the choice to step away
Speaker 1: from the weekly broadcast booth to spend more time with
Speaker 1: my family, so it's not an easy decision. I have
Speaker 1: loved my three plus years and one thirty five episodes
Speaker 1: of n XT. I'm incredibly, incredibly proud of the brand.
Speaker 1: She does not She's not as hard as Scotty Toadie
Speaker 1: was on the situation. But I think that Mike yesterday
Speaker 1: suggested that the Royal Rumble they could do the MMS
Speaker 1: and Maurice, or either that or Day one MS and
Speaker 1: Maurice versus Edge and Beth Phoenix, and I think there's
Speaker 1: a very good chance that could happen. But we also
Speaker 1: saw the situation with Ah carrying Cross where he was
Speaker 1: on the main roster and also in an x T
Speaker 1: for a period there. So it's not like she couldn't
Speaker 1: do the main roster feud with MS and Maurice and
Speaker 1: also do commentary for n x T. She's just decided
Speaker 1: she has done with n x T and whatever that means.
Speaker 1: She says it's due to family, but this also again
Speaker 1: may not be the last person. Because no matter what
Speaker 1: you guys think about me or Mike or anybody else
Speaker 1: who tells you that they think that this n x
Speaker 1: T two point oh sucks, do not fool yourself into
Speaker 1: thinking that. People who have been there for a long time.
Speaker 1: I mean, trust me on this. There are people who
Speaker 1: have been there for a long time and they don't
Speaker 1: like it anymore. It's not what it used to be.
Speaker 1: It's not as fun as it used to be. And
Speaker 1: this is not like an isolated incident right here. There
Speaker 1: will be more, whether it's talent or people that work
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that based on the way it is
Speaker 1: now an x T two point oh as compared to
Speaker 1: what it was before, they don't like it anymore. And
Speaker 1: that's okay, but don't get mad at me about it.
Speaker 1: I guess it really all depends on the time frame
Speaker 1: when she's going to step away from doing the announcing
Speaker 1: because and I know people would hate the thought of this,
Speaker 1: but you know, Edge and Miss at WrestleMania. I mean,
Speaker 1: are they gonna start something around day one that kicks
Speaker 1: off at Royal Rumble and then goes on to Mania.
Speaker 1: Is this just going to be for Royal Rumble? Who knows,
Speaker 1: you know. And whether Beth is going to be involved
Speaker 1: or not, I'm not sure. But Maurice was out there
Speaker 1: for really no reason at all on Monday night, so
Speaker 1: there's probably got to be a reason that that she
Speaker 1: is there in aligned or you know, with her husband
Speaker 1: uh bucking up against Edge and with this news about
Speaker 1: Beth leaving, you know, it just makes sense that they
Speaker 1: would try to do something. Could it be family over
Speaker 1: the product? It certainly could be. I think they live
Speaker 1: in the Carolina's. I have no idea how all their
Speaker 1: kids are other than they're married with kids, which we
Speaker 1: saw when Seth Rollins broke into their house. But it's
Speaker 1: not easy, you know, if he's going to be on
Speaker 1: the road and were or doing more or whatever it's
Speaker 1: going to be here. It's not easy on your family,
Speaker 1: especially if your kids are in school, which I believe
Speaker 1: that they are, so it may just be good timing
Speaker 1: for her to kind of look at the scene and go,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm out of here. But you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they probably does have something to do with family. Although,
Speaker 1: like Brian mentioned, we've all heard this. Everybody is his
Speaker 1: people backfight or give their opinion at the very least
Speaker 1: who worked down there about their thoughts on some of
Speaker 1: the changes that are being made, and there are obviously
Speaker 1: very polarizing. They flipped the show completely upside down. So
Speaker 1: the more you hear of people as time goes on
Speaker 1: giving their real opinion about some of the things that
Speaker 1: are shaking out and taking place, I mean, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be too surprised. Somebody on the twitch head twitch chat
Speaker 1: here says w w E seat warmer or only watching
Speaker 1: Joe Gacy, which is the worst fate. So I think
Speaker 1: this is in a reference to a video that came
Speaker 1: out yesterday. Uh, somebody was working as a seat filler
Speaker 1: for w w E, and I guess they took a
Speaker 1: video of of the requirements of being a seat filler,
Speaker 1: and apparently for some people this was like a giant scandal.
Speaker 1: But let me answer the question and tell you all
Speaker 1: something real quick. Watching Joe Gacy is five million times
Speaker 1: worse than being a w w E seat filler. I've
Speaker 1: been a w w E seat filler. Why would anyone
Speaker 1: think that this is a bad job. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess if you don't want to go to raw, it
Speaker 1: would be a bad job. But why would you volunteer
Speaker 1: to be a seat filler if you didn't want to
Speaker 1: go to raw. W w E has seat fillers, Okay,
Speaker 1: and it's not just w W eat millions I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say millions, but all sorts of of different events. Whether
Speaker 1: it's anything that you're gonna air on television, it's probably
Speaker 1: gonna end up having like a sporting event or whatever,
Speaker 1: or I know, some entertainment deals have seat fillers. It's
Speaker 1: a job because they don't want empty seats on television.
Speaker 1: And so what a seat filler does is you actually
Speaker 1: get a nice seat and it's free. And the reason
Speaker 1: it's a nice seat is because if somebody in the
Speaker 1: third row gets up to go to the bathroom, they
Speaker 1: don't want that empty seat, so they rush you down
Speaker 1: to fill that seat until the person comes back. Now,
Speaker 1: in order for you to rush down, you gotta be
Speaker 1: pretty close and the seat filler seats. When I did
Speaker 1: this job, we're we're like right there by the hardcam,
Speaker 1: and the reality is there aren't a lot of people
Speaker 1: in front of the hard cam that leave for extended
Speaker 1: periods of time. So I was never moved once, and
Speaker 1: quite frankly, I don't even know anybody that I went
Speaker 1: with that did that job that was ever moved once.
Speaker 1: So there's absolutely nothing wrong with this job. It's a
Speaker 1: great job. You sit there in a great seat and
Speaker 1: you watched the show for free, and then like if
Speaker 1: you're needed, you go down and you come back. Joe
Speaker 1: Gacy a horror back in a moment Observer lie back
Speaker 1: in the show. Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 1: Mike SIMPERBB also Wrestling Observer dot Com. So apparently the
Speaker 1: whole story around this deal I just talked about was
Speaker 1: this video came out about the seat fillers, and I
Speaker 1: guess people were, you know, bringing it up because I
Speaker 1: had also reported that there are people in w w
Speaker 1: E that thinks that Tony Con has been buying tickets
Speaker 1: for the UBS arena to make sure that they sell
Speaker 1: or that they have more people in the building than
Speaker 1: w w E. So, first off, these things are are
Speaker 1: totally different if and he's not. But let's just say
Speaker 1: that somebody was buying tickets, uh to fill up a building. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's totally different than seat fillers. Seat fillers don't get paid.
Speaker 1: There's a person in charge of the seat fillers and
Speaker 1: they they say, hey, you got a dozen buddies that
Speaker 1: want to go to the show for free. We'll get
Speaker 1: him in. But they have to be seat fillers, and
Speaker 1: you're actually not putting people in seats that would have
Speaker 1: been purchased. The seat fillers sit next to the hard
Speaker 1: camp where they're not selling tickets anyway. So that's a
Speaker 1: completely different thing. But is it is it pertains to
Speaker 1: people think that Tony Khan is buying tickets for a
Speaker 1: W shows. Tony con is not buying tickets for a
Speaker 1: W shows. And when I talked to the other day
Speaker 1: about how there are people in w w E who
Speaker 1: think that he is buying tickets because I guess they
Speaker 1: can't wrap their heads around the fact that you, yes,
Speaker 1: arena a W is selling way more tickets in w
Speaker 1: w E did. I want to make it abundantly clear
Speaker 1: that this is not like one person. Okay, first off,
Speaker 1: I've been hearing people say this for months now. Okay,
Speaker 1: I heard it again a few days ago. When I
Speaker 1: talked about it on the air, I had people coming
Speaker 1: out of the woodwork telling me that they had heard
Speaker 1: the exact same thing. This is not like, oh, there's
Speaker 1: one or two people that have you know, sources are what.
Speaker 1: This is multiple people. This is a belief by people
Speaker 1: in w w E that Tony Cohn is buying tickets
Speaker 1: for these shows, because that's the only way that a
Speaker 1: w could sell more tickets than w w E. It
Speaker 1: is a slight form of madness, but it's just hilarious
Speaker 1: because like, well, we literally are. We've got people that
Speaker 1: are are pretending like it's again and you've got oh
Speaker 1: this Tony con has got you know, millions or billions,
Speaker 1: Dad's got Billy whatever. Poor Vince struggling to get by.
Speaker 1: Kids realize that Vince Vince has so much money? Who
Speaker 1: is billionaire? I want you to point to the idiot
Speaker 1: that's doing that, because I don't believe you. I don't
Speaker 1: believe you I'm telling you, dude, bro, it's there's so
Speaker 1: many people that have told me this. Well, look I did,
Speaker 1: and I know a couple that have said the same thing.
Speaker 1: I think part of it they're taking the you know,
Speaker 1: you're making a I think they're joking in some ways.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're not. I if Tony Cohn's got more money
Speaker 1: than Vince McMahon, and I know that probably bothers Vince McMahan,
Speaker 1: but that's how you know, life work. Somebody's gonna have
Speaker 1: more money than you. He could. He could buy every
Speaker 1: seat for every building forever, forever at retail. Doesn't I mean,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. This doesn't make any sense
Speaker 1: of buying tickets from day one of those ubs sales
Speaker 1: a W was rocking. Why would they not be their
Speaker 1: brand new They have a jacked up fan base, they're
Speaker 1: going to places they haven't been before. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just it's bizarre. It's not just slight. If anybody actually
Speaker 1: believes that they're nuts, they're absolutely nuts. You know, there's
Speaker 1: not even proof that he's buying tickets and giving them
Speaker 1: to a charity. Usually we hear when teams do that
Speaker 1: or when somebody does that. That's not what they're doing.
Speaker 1: It's just bizarre and to almost give it any oxygen
Speaker 1: at all, that type of story is really does everybody
Speaker 1: at disservice, and it just plays into the I'm gonna
Speaker 1: plant my flag, you plant your flag, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: battle back and forth nonsense. But fans, but it's just
Speaker 1: bizarre and it's it's silly, and frankly, it's you know
Speaker 1: what's ironic. What's ironic is that Tony con is buying
Speaker 1: no tickets for the UBS Arena, but w w E
Speaker 1: was doing two for one deal. So if I buy
Speaker 1: one ticket, you give me a free seat. You're anyway,
Speaker 1: let's talk about silly. Let's talk about some other news
Speaker 1: and get off this ticket thing because it's it's very nutty.
Speaker 1: W w E is announced the launch of a new
Speaker 1: program to create a clear pathway from college athletics to
Speaker 1: w w E because we don't want any more of
Speaker 1: those indie vanilla midgets anymore. It was announced today w
Speaker 1: w establish an n I L program for college athletes.
Speaker 1: It allows athletes to profit off their name, image and
Speaker 1: likeness while still in college. The first n I L
Speaker 1: deal in ww A history, who was announced in September
Speaker 1: with Limit Gold medalist wrestler Gable Steveson signing with the company.
Speaker 1: Gable Steveson's brother is also signed to the company, but
Speaker 1: they made him change his name. That's another story. The
Speaker 1: name of w e's program is Next in Line. Following
Speaker 1: a historic new policy by the n C double a
Speaker 1: effect of July one, which ushered in the n I
Speaker 1: L era, allowing college athletes ability to monetize their name,
Speaker 1: image and likeness, w w has constructed a comprehensive program
Speaker 1: to recruit and develop potential future superstars. Dubbed Next in Line,
Speaker 1: the n I L program aims to enhance the talent
Speaker 1: development process through collaborative partnerships with college athletes from diverse backgrounds. So,
Speaker 1: as we've noted for a while now, there's been a
Speaker 1: total shift in the way that w w E hires
Speaker 1: folks for developmental A few years ago, when a w
Speaker 1: was getting started, it was signed everybody off the indies,
Speaker 1: whether whether we think they will be a star or not.
Speaker 1: Sign everybody to make sure that nobody can go to
Speaker 1: a W And so they just signed every like everybody
Speaker 1: was getting signed to w w E. Then, of course,
Speaker 1: you know a w took off and everything was going fine,
Speaker 1: and n x T lost this war, and then they
Speaker 1: start just acting people left and right. The number of
Speaker 1: people they have access here, I forget the number. It's
Speaker 1: like a ridiculous number of people they've asked axed off
Speaker 1: the developmental n x T main raw Sir, just cut cut, cut, cut, cut,
Speaker 1: cut cut. Now, we do not want any independent workers
Speaker 1: in developmental well. I mean, you know, I'm sure they'll
Speaker 1: sign one or two. But they want to get you
Speaker 1: out of college. Oh, you were a great volleyball player.
Speaker 1: You can be a w w E superstar, you were
Speaker 1: a wrestler, you were a Bob sletter, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: They want to get you out of college or the Olympics,
Speaker 1: teach you how to be a wrestler, and then have
Speaker 1: you be a superstar up there on the main roster.
Speaker 1: When they started firing everybody, I said it then, I'll
Speaker 1: say it now. Don't quit wrestling, Go work the indies,
Speaker 1: Go work Ring of Honor, Impact whatever. In two years
Speaker 1: they're gonna be looking for you again. Okay. It's a
Speaker 1: phase by Vince McMahon. He didn't like the way things
Speaker 1: were going, so he wants to do a full one eighty,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get frustrated with did like he always does,
Speaker 1: and he's going to go back to wrestlers. So if
Speaker 1: you got fired, or if it's your dream or whatever,
Speaker 1: go work indies. Don't try and get into the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Go work indies, and you're gonna have your shot to
Speaker 1: get at some point. It's inevitable. It's uh. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: asked a lot of people after Gerald Briscoe left, who's
Speaker 1: filling that With the exception of William Regal, who is
Speaker 1: looking at amateur wrestlers, who's going to do all that stuff?
Speaker 1: Because I mean it was essentially he was Gerald Briscoe.
Speaker 1: Then a lot of people didn't have that interest, not
Speaker 1: even by his own, you know, admission that he was
Speaker 1: really one of the only ones that would would go
Speaker 1: do this stuff. So they needed to really establish, to me,
Speaker 1: a pipeline and a program for college wrestling for sure.
Speaker 1: Now college football players obviously they've gone after volleyball players,
Speaker 1: basketball players, all that sort of stuff. So to have
Speaker 1: a system in place, especially now where you can and
Speaker 1: I don't know what the term is, it used to
Speaker 1: be before you would sponsor somebody like in the a
Speaker 1: W A veran Gania was a big part of the
Speaker 1: amateur wrestlings. Uh seeing Eddie Graham guys like that in
Speaker 1: different places, and they would fund guys and people that
Speaker 1: were trying to make the Olympics and do things internationally.
Speaker 1: They would fund that. And then of course if once
Speaker 1: they were done that, of course obviously that the door
Speaker 1: would be open for them to walk in and start wrestling.
Speaker 1: So to have a system like that set up, I
Speaker 1: think is really good. And the fact that now I
Speaker 1: guess with and I don't know how this works with
Speaker 1: like what a t T does with the University of
Speaker 1: Miami students, but you can essentially, I mean, obviously there's
Speaker 1: money that can be given to these students. Now, there's
Speaker 1: things that can be done, and I think it's a
Speaker 1: good idea. The problem is you can't just take a
Speaker 1: bunch of people that Man I think I might want
Speaker 1: to do that for a living or man I really
Speaker 1: like that when I was little. I mean, how many
Speaker 1: people really have that drive? How many people are naturals
Speaker 1: who weren't wrestling thing? How many people are you gonna
Speaker 1: find they have been doing this stuff that haven't been wrestling,
Speaker 1: that are gonna be ready to go and like Brian
Speaker 1: mentioned and other people have mentioned, within two years, it's
Speaker 1: gonna change. It's gonna have to change because how many
Speaker 1: people are gonna hit on you know, You've got the
Speaker 1: Casper brothers, you got the Stevenson brothers. You've got some
Speaker 1: guys down there who are just recently coming in from
Speaker 1: the amateur ranks. You know, that's a good step up.
Speaker 1: Are they gonna make it? Lots of guys who come
Speaker 1: into wrestling over the years who have wrestled amateur, they
Speaker 1: haven't made it. So we'll see. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: you know, for every Tony D'Angelo who gets a gimmick
Speaker 1: who walks in, who doesn't have an experience, but the
Speaker 1: fans take to him because of the presentation, that's cool.
Speaker 1: That's one, you know. Is he gonna develop? How many
Speaker 1: more people are gonna bring in? I just think that
Speaker 1: the whole the whole process, there's a good reason to
Speaker 1: have it. There certainly is, and they need to develop
Speaker 1: something like that and develop those lines. I'm just not sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, you cannot build your company out of people
Speaker 1: that don't wrestle, that don't have any experience, that just
Speaker 1: are walking in and we're gonna train them up. We've
Speaker 1: seen that not work. We've seen that not work for
Speaker 1: years and years and years and years. You're only going
Speaker 1: to get so many people who come in ice cold
Speaker 1: or don't have a main interest, but this is all
Speaker 1: they wanted to do in their life, like we see
Speaker 1: on the indie scene, and be successful. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: almost impossible for it to happen. And x T on
Speaker 1: Tuesdays six and thirty seven thousand viewers up one point
Speaker 1: nine percent, eighteen and forty nine a point one five
Speaker 1: and that was up seven percent from last week. And
Speaker 1: this was the go home show for war Games. We're
Speaker 1: just coming up on Sunday, and yes, we will be
Speaker 1: doing a post war games show on Twitch and YouTube
Speaker 1: immediately after the show airs on Sunday night only for subscribers.
Speaker 1: By the way, you must subscribe to watch the post
Speaker 1: show live, but the video will go up afterwards. Video
Speaker 1: dot f W online dot com back in a moment
Speaker 1: with the Dynamite reported more Observer live back in the show,
Speaker 1: bright olvera is here wrestling Observer Alive except for vv
Speaker 1: also rustling Observer dot com. We're gonna go into this, uh,
Speaker 1: this Dynamite report here in just a moment. But before
Speaker 1: we do, I gotta say one quick thing that was
Speaker 1: in the news today that you know, I was probably
Speaker 1: gonna make people mad, but you actually shouldn't get mad
Speaker 1: if you actually really think about this. And the problem
Speaker 1: is that on the internet a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: think about anything. But are you guys aware that Dana
Speaker 1: White got COVID? The head of UFC got COVID. Dana
Speaker 1: White and his family contracted COVID nineteen over the Thanksgiving holiday.
Speaker 1: White revealed the news on Jim Rome's podcast, saying he
Speaker 1: and his family got the virus while it is vacation
Speaker 1: home in Maine last week. He said someone there had
Speaker 1: it and when they got back everyone tested positive. He
Speaker 1: said he does a cold plunge and steam every day,
Speaker 1: and when he couldn't smell eucalyptus in a spray he uses,
Speaker 1: he knew there was an issue. White, who is fully vaccinated,
Speaker 1: said he immediately called Joe Rogan, who also had the virus,
Speaker 1: for how he should attack it, and immediately began an
Speaker 1: aggressive series of monoclonal antibodies and a d rip and
Speaker 1: iver make him so listen, I just got to ask
Speaker 1: this question. Okay, this is not a political statement or
Speaker 1: anything like that. This is just a question. But I
Speaker 1: want you all to think about. Okay, the first thing
Speaker 1: that Dana White did when he got COVID was not
Speaker 1: call his doctor, but he called Joe Rogan. Now, before
Speaker 1: you get angry at what I just said, because I
Speaker 1: know people are fuming already, let's just think about this
Speaker 1: for a second. Okay, and I'm gonna make I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put I'm gonna put you. I want to. I want
Speaker 1: you the listener to think about this for a second. Okay,
Speaker 1: unless you are unemployed and have never had a job,
Speaker 1: I want you to think about what your current job
Speaker 1: is or what your last job was. Okay, I'll use
Speaker 1: my own job for the last actual real job I
Speaker 1: had besides you know, teaching jiu jitsu? Was I I taught?
Speaker 1: I taught gymnastics? Okay, imagine whatever job you have, what
Speaker 1: was the last job that you had, Mike, right, and
Speaker 1: I have like seven of them right now? Name one?
Speaker 1: Why here with you? But besides this name but none whatever,
Speaker 1: forget it. Just name a job. Okay, you're let's say
Speaker 1: you're a bartender, okay, or let's say that you know whatever,
Speaker 1: you're a mechanic. Mechanics a great example. So can you
Speaker 1: imagine if you were a mechanic and uh, you're fixing
Speaker 1: somebody's car and your customer came up to you and
Speaker 1: started telling you that you were doing it wrong, and
Speaker 1: you said, what are you talking about? And they said, well,
Speaker 1: you know this thing should this air filter should be
Speaker 1: actually you know in the in the wheel. Well, like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And they say, I read
Speaker 1: about it on the internet. Okay, so you're not a mechanic,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna tell me how I'm gonna do my
Speaker 1: job because you read about the internet. A parent comes
Speaker 1: up and goes, you're teaching that back handspring wrong, bro,
Speaker 1: I was I got three hundred medals here from gymnastics.
Speaker 1: What do you mean I'm teaching it wrong? Well, I
Speaker 1: read about it on the internet. Or you know, you're whatever.
Speaker 1: A bartender, for example, and they go, I want to Russian,
Speaker 1: and so I don't know what's in a white Russian.
Speaker 1: It's like milk and some liquor, right, Okay, So you
Speaker 1: start pouring the cream into it and then the customer
Speaker 1: starts yelling and going, I don't know, creaming it oh
Speaker 1: you there should be orange juice of that white Russian.
Speaker 1: You're like, what are you talking about? I read about
Speaker 1: it on the internet every single one are you listening?
Speaker 1: As a job where if a customer came up to
Speaker 1: you and they told you that you were doing your
Speaker 1: job wrong and they're gonna tell you how to do
Speaker 1: your job because they read about on the internet, you
Speaker 1: would flip out at him. But for some reason, if
Speaker 1: the job is being a doctor, everybody knows how to
Speaker 1: do the job better than the doctor. Oh, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go to my doctor. I've done my research on
Speaker 1: the internet. I'm gonna tell I'm gonna go to Joe Rogan,
Speaker 1: the guy on the radio. He's talked to a lot
Speaker 1: of people. He'll know more than my doctor about this
Speaker 1: medical issue. With all due respect, I don't believe him
Speaker 1: for a second. I'm not saying he didn't call Joe Rogan,
Speaker 1: but it's almost like, well, it's it's trolling. It's trolling.
Speaker 1: And do you think that Dana White, who has already vaccinated,
Speaker 1: who's got all the money in the world. I'm sure
Speaker 1: he called a doctor. Sure he called a doctor. That's fine,
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just it's it's I don't believe
Speaker 1: it for a second. I think it's it's a dangerous thing.
Speaker 1: You know, our doctor is perfect, no medical Maybe there's
Speaker 1: a reason they called medical practice. You know, sometimes not
Speaker 1: everybody reacts the same way to everything. It's just it's
Speaker 1: it's at this point, it's bizarre. It's just bizarre, and
Speaker 1: why people want to double down on it. And again,
Speaker 1: I don't believe him. I wouldn't believe Dana White if
Speaker 1: his tongue was notorized. I mean just he said lies
Speaker 1: and flat out falsehoods over and over and then gets
Speaker 1: called on him, and it's just it's ridiculous. So I
Speaker 1: don't believe this. If that's what people want to do,
Speaker 1: knock themselves out. But you know, the it's just it's
Speaker 1: a silly thing where I'm gonna listen to Joe Rogan,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to somebody on the internet. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: listen to conspiracy theorists and in late night radio shows
Speaker 1: and and shortwave radio mentality here, you know too. I
Speaker 1: just I don't know, it's it's it's almost not even
Speaker 1: worth talking about. I don't Again, I don't believe him.
Speaker 1: I don't believe him. And I think if that's what
Speaker 1: you want to do, if that's what you want to
Speaker 1: do is talk to Joe Rogan and stead of doctor,
Speaker 1: I guess knock yourself out. I just it's this is nuts,
Speaker 1: It's absolutely nuts. Well, let's talk about dynamite here. They
Speaker 1: don't like it too bad, do your own podcast. They'll
Speaker 1: tell me how to do my job. So we had
Speaker 1: Brian Danielson in five Alan Angels, and Brian Danielson, as promised,
Speaker 1: kicked his head in and knee barred him and submitted him.
Speaker 1: That was the Innevalent Angels and hangman. Adam Page was
Speaker 1: doing commentary. They claimed he was replacing Jim Ross, but
Speaker 1: he was basically there for the angle. And they've announced
Speaker 1: that Brian Danielson and Adam Page is taking place in
Speaker 1: two weeks Winter is coming Championship match free on television
Speaker 1: for everybody, and uh they set that up here and
Speaker 1: also next week did an angle where John Silver is
Speaker 1: going to be facing Brian Danielson and John Silver's hometown
Speaker 1: next week and he is also going to get his
Speaker 1: head kicked in. Now at the end, uh, we are
Speaker 1: not having the final match here in Adam Page's hometown.
Speaker 1: Nor is the final match taking place in Aberdeen, Washington,
Speaker 1: Daniel Bryant's hometown. The show is actually taking place in
Speaker 1: Dallas because it's the home of the Cowboys. And I'd
Speaker 1: like to interview Tony Con someday and I want to
Speaker 1: ask him, like, how long this has all been planned,
Speaker 1: because it is It is quite the deal that there
Speaker 1: just happens to be a Dark Order mem bur from
Speaker 1: every city that they're running Rampage and Dynamite in. It
Speaker 1: seems like there might have been some long term planning here.
Speaker 1: We had see him Punk beating Lee Moriarty when the
Speaker 1: show started today. I saw blokes in the chat going,
Speaker 1: my god, why was so Why was c him Punk
Speaker 1: so blown up? Because that's the story. They literally at
Speaker 1: MGF on commentary talking about why is it taking this
Speaker 1: guy so long to beat Lee Moriarty? Why is it
Speaker 1: I thought this guy was a top star? What's that's
Speaker 1: the story? MGF is claiming that ce him Punk is
Speaker 1: supposed to be a big star, but he's struggling to
Speaker 1: beat everybody at MGF is threatening to obviously beat him
Speaker 1: as well. And we don't have a date for their match,
Speaker 1: but we did have a stare down between See Him
Speaker 1: Punk and Wardlow afterwards, and they gave Wardlow a big
Speaker 1: win on this show. So it appears that Punk will
Speaker 1: have to go through Wardlow before he gets to MGF,
Speaker 1: and that was originally a match scheduled for the last
Speaker 1: pay per view though the Full Gear show. At least
Speaker 1: according to Tony Cohn's clipboard, it was photographed on the
Speaker 1: sidelines of that game. Can I ask you one question
Speaker 1: about this segment? Yes, what exactly did britt Baker do
Speaker 1: to be inserted into this? Which sense did that make?
Speaker 1: She's been See Him Punk has mentioned that britt Baker
Speaker 1: like three times in promos since since he showed up.
Speaker 1: He mentioned that that britt Baker was a bigger star
Speaker 1: than m JF. He mentioned that, I forget the other one,
Speaker 1: there was another one at anyway, He's mentioned her several times,
Speaker 1: and so m JF used that in the line that
Speaker 1: that that c him Punk is attempting to get into
Speaker 1: her pants. I guess it's just it was weird when
Speaker 1: Adam Cole comes out, which was a complete you know,
Speaker 1: Adam Cole comes out the next segment, doesn't say a
Speaker 1: word about it. He's pissed a Tony because he thinks
Speaker 1: Tony wants to mac on his girl. And then nothing
Speaker 1: is said about m JF basically calling her a skank
Speaker 1: and then see him Punk calling him a skank too
Speaker 1: by wanting to get into into bed with her. Just
Speaker 1: didn't really. It was kind of that was an interesting
Speaker 1: There were a couple of interesting things. It was a
Speaker 1: good show, but there were a couple of glaring things
Speaker 1: that kind of like this, this didn't work out. I
Speaker 1: don't pick according to plan. I don't think that Adam
Speaker 1: Cole is going to be a heel over the long term,
Speaker 1: and at some point he's gonna turn baby Face and
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the easiest feud in the world
Speaker 1: when c him Punk goes heal, which I think he
Speaker 1: will because I think he could have Adam Cole defending
Speaker 1: his girlfriend in the in the heel role. But I
Speaker 1: guess you have to turn her as well. They turned her,
Speaker 1: I mean she's I mean, I don't think they ever.
Speaker 1: They never turned her from being a heel. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the crazy part with her is everybody wants to
Speaker 1: cheer anyway, Everybody is gonna cheer. She's got a gimmick
Speaker 1: that makes me cheer the channel along with the d
Speaker 1: M D and all that sort of stuff. So it's
Speaker 1: inevitable because for both, you know, nobody wants to boo
Speaker 1: Cole either, doesn't seem like. We had Adam Cole doing
Speaker 1: an entrance, then he went to do commentary, but then
Speaker 1: Orange Cassidy came out and then a brawl broke out
Speaker 1: and then they all left. Yeah, that was one of
Speaker 1: those glaring It's just a way to set up an angle,
Speaker 1: but it was very bizarre. I guess Adam Cole was
Speaker 1: gonna do commentary on this Ward Low match where ward
Speaker 1: Low beat a c Adams just squashed him, so that's
Speaker 1: leading I'm sure to him and uh see him punk.
Speaker 1: We had the announcement that that Phoenix is injured and
Speaker 1: apparently he's not injured, so this is some sort of storyline.
Speaker 1: So on Friday it is going to be Penta and
Speaker 1: Pock versus f t R. So that's coming up on Friday.
Speaker 1: We had Darby, Ellen and Sting versus The gun Club,
Speaker 1: the battle of two undefeated teams. The gun Club no
Speaker 1: longer undefeated. Colton Gunn was pinned, so his streak ends.
Speaker 1: Darby Ellen and Sting One was fun match, crowd was
Speaker 1: super into it, and this leads to, uh, well, actually
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Tad's here in a moment had a
Speaker 1: Jericho interview where he was beaten up backstage. Presumably this
Speaker 1: was a pre tape. It was done to keep him
Speaker 1: off this show and off Rampage because he's currently in
Speaker 1: uh the UK doing a Fazzy tour and so he
Speaker 1: is not available. Then we had an segment with Tazz
Speaker 1: and his crew and Leo Rush and I don't have
Speaker 1: time to go into all of it, but I will
Speaker 1: just say when it was over, I fully expect Leo
Speaker 1: Russian Dante Martin to eliminate all of Team Tazz next
Speaker 1: week in the Diamond Battle Royal hallelujah because that Battle
Speaker 1: Royal is coming up next week. We had Ruby Sojo
Speaker 1: beating Chris stad Lander. A little slopping us here and there,
Speaker 1: but overall it was a good match and so ho
Speaker 1: one and she will be going on to face Nyla
Speaker 1: Rose in the semifinals of the tournament. Rampage Friday, no
Speaker 1: spoilers Sammy Gavarre versus Tony nice Fdr versus Death Triangle,
Speaker 1: This being Pakin Penta and the Jade Cargill will be
Speaker 1: facing I forgot her name, but uh Jenai Kai a
Speaker 1: student of thunder Rosa. I don't think I need to
Speaker 1: tell you what's gonna happen in that match if you
Speaker 1: cannot figure out already, no spoilers. And then, of course
Speaker 1: the main event was Cody and Andrade in a street fight,
Speaker 1: and the big spot at the end was Brandy came
Speaker 1: out and boy was she hated and she poured lighter
Speaker 1: fluid all over a table. They lit it on fire.
Speaker 1: Cody and Androide went through the table. Cody's back is
Speaker 1: on fire, he covers, and Chess is on fire as
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Speaker 1: I said don't play with fire, but I mean, if
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