1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast knows how to get through 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: to millennials. Welcome back to another edition of the Around 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: am joined by room filled with some heroes, Chris Westling, 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and yes, Colleen Wolf. I like that that 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: was this morning. You're an actual wolf woman. We don't 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: have our cans on today. I didn't. I didn't forgot 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: to say, hey, Damn, will listen. We're a little out 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: about there's some new technology right now, TD incorporating. Everybody's 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: uncomfortable about it, mostly me, but west especially. We're using 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: in the industry what are called what t lob But 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Mike's love miss with a hey Man cool and she's 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: she's an expert relation to old pirates catcher Spanky Lavalier. 14 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: What is that reference? He's a catcher for the pirates 15 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: last references that no one under the age of thirty 16 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: five is any idea what he's talking about. Colleen, How 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: the hell are you doing? I'm great, Yeah, super excited. 18 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: I feel like it's been a while. It has been. 19 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: We we were talking on my flight back from Philly. 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: It was really excited. Yeah, we were discussing over text 21 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: while Colleen was flying back here, and you're very excited 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: to chat clearly lonely on the airplane. I had nobody 23 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: to talk to when I was going crazy, and I 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: just wanted somebody to text me back. And so Dan, 25 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: Dan was the only one that I'm a dependable dude 26 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: and the guy that you know helps people out. Hey, 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: very big show today, Like I legitimately mean that we 28 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: have a lot to get to today. Uh, you know, Gregor, 29 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: the Making the Leap series is in full bloom now 30 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: and the number nineteen out of twenty entry was my boy, 31 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: Geno Smith of the York Jets. And as soon as 32 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: I read Greg's fantastic piece, and I did read it, 33 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: it's the first thing read that I wrote. You have 34 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: to write a wildly complimentary piece about a Jets player 35 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: to get that. I didn't even know Greg wrote for 36 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: around the NFL until I read that. But it was 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: very thought provoking piece at the very least. So we're 38 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: gonna talk about Geno Smith, and we're also going to 39 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: uh check it with Kevin Patra who was at the 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: Rookie Symposium. Where is that that's in Ohio, Aurora, But 41 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: they made a trip to Barria in Cleveland, which is 42 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: about now. They also went to the Hall of Fame 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: in Canton. But yeah, Aurora. Does every state have an Aurora? 44 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: It feels like it wasn't that where wayned World was Aurora, Illinois, 45 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: So maybe there is an Aurora Aurora everywhere. We will also, 46 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: uh do something we did last year. Now. I meant 47 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: to check if we got this right. I'm sure we did, 48 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: because some brilliant football minds in here. Uh, we are 49 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: going to declare on June who is not a contender 50 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: for the super Bowl this year? Outright? No chance? Maybe 51 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: it's like the the precursor to our stick a Forkingham series, 52 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: which I don't think we do that anymore. But we 53 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: will decide which teams. You know, if you're a fan base, 54 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: still listen to the podcast obviously, but understand that while 55 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: you might enjoy and have fun following your team, it 56 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: will not end in San Francisco in February. No chance. Well, 57 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: they call this this season of hope, and we're ending 58 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: that season. For some fans, there are just super Bowl 59 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: contender or playoff contender. Super Bowl contender. No, we're gonna 60 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: eliminate like today, No I think even playoff content. I mean, 61 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: if you make the playoffs, you could win the super Bowl. 62 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: It's not true the Bengals can't win the super Bowl. Well, 63 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: we'll get into all that. It's a yeah, it's something 64 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: we'll get into. And of course we're gonna bring it 65 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: back after a one week hiatus. Hiatus even though it's 66 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: only been around one week? Are you kidding me? With 67 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: Connor or our New Jersey correspondent for Around the NFL. 68 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: So yes, a lot to get to, but before we 69 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: do any of that, we check behind the glass TD 70 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: pushing us into boundaries that make us uncomfortable as usual, 71 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: but listen, all for a greater good, right, That's what 72 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: it is like a game of thrones, man, That's why 73 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: the throne is you know, made of swords. You can't 74 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: get too comfortable, you know, always gonna be you push 75 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: it either way. Um, they're about two, my ken about twenties. 76 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: That's good to move on from that analogy. None of 77 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: us know Dan does like you guys need to stop. 78 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: Dan's is actually one of us, you know, like heach 79 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: us to act like as you guys are sounding old. 80 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: But Dan, you know, Dan gets down and I don't know. 81 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: It's not because I'm old, because you know, there's always 82 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm a little plugged in. I'm a little more pu 83 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: plugged into pop culture than my colleagues, probably a lot. 84 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: At some point, t you're gonna realize you have an 85 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, a finite amount of time on this earth, 86 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: and you just wasted like fifteen years watching super It's 87 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: for mercy quels anyway. Your point point is has to 88 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: mike count uh twenty, they're twenty different cities in the 89 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: United at least two in New York. That's really random 90 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: in New York, it's too in New York. Yes, did 91 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: you find out who the Nigerian president was? Did I 92 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: told you last time? What was it or something? Mohammed 93 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: dude Bohari? Yeah, I know, I know, I know what's 94 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: going on. All right. I have a fun movie story, 95 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: but I won't tell it you guys down. That's what's 96 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: called the tease for something that will never happen. Let's 97 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: do some news, all right. You don't want your story, 98 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: but never I'm not gonna tell it. Well, I mean 99 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: we're busy, we got a lot of stuff to get to. 100 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: How good is the story? It's just weird. That's all 101 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: that's interesting. All right. Tell the story of this movie 102 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: Dope came out last week because I have a shop, 103 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: I'm about to go see the movie Dope. I'm getting 104 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: my hair cut and Barbarie Barbara gets a call from 105 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: his sister who lets him know that he's in a 106 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: movie Dope, in a barbershop scene. You know, So I 107 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: was like, how random was that? That's all it is. 108 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: That's the story. That's the story. You know, when you 109 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: see the movie Dope and I got my hair cut 110 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: by the guy barbershop in the movie Dope, that's kind 111 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: of wow. Let's listen this hit single of Sierra probably 112 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: here best single ever, and that's what Russell Wilson is 113 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: all about right now. Yeah, Russell Wilson is. It's interesting 114 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: what he's going for. He's one of the more milk 115 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: toast NFL stars and I think he's trying to add 116 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: a little edge. So he's getting cr in the mix. 117 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Who was, you know, kind of a frisky R and 118 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: B star. They're dating supposedly, and he posted kind of 119 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna say it was an inappropriate 120 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: image of Sira, but it was one of those type 121 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: of you know, sultry type images that he used Google 122 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: for it. Oh did he? I mean it's always good 123 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: to artificially construct an edge instead of just being yourself. 124 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: So you're saying, this is one of the relationships constructed 125 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: by publicists and it doesn't even read. It's incredibly lame. Yeah, 126 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: I mean, if you have to, you know, post a 127 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: picture of your girlfriend, use your personal photos, not Google. 128 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some news. Crra and Russell Wilson. 129 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Good luck to you kids. All right, We'll start with 130 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, who, as as we all know, in the 131 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: off season, there were some whispers about what his future 132 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: was in Denver. They wanted to take a pay cut. 133 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: He eventually did take a pay cut, and then we 134 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: had a report they came out that there were some 135 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: talks or there was some buzz between the Texans and 136 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: the Broncos about a trade in the off season. The 137 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: Texans were one of the teams that were in the 138 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: mix originally before Peyton Manning signed with the Broncos. So 139 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: there was a report that those two teams that had 140 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: some preliminary type talks about a potential deal that has 141 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: been swatted down in multiple places. Including our own NFL 142 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: media insider Ian rap Report, who was on the Rich 143 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: I doesn't show Wednesday, he said talks. Account of the 144 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 1: alleged trade talks was quote, not how it went down. 145 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: Here's the ian said. I do believe there was some 146 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: conversation between the Texans and several teams who have quarterbacks. 147 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: What it sounds like is that the Texans reached out 148 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 1: to teams and tried to see what was there. So Greg, 149 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: we'll start with you on this one. It sounds like 150 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: just due diligence by one team doesn't mean that the 151 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: Broncos were looking to trade the greatest quarterback of this generation. Well, 152 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: it's not even the first time we heard about this. 153 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: Matt money Smith talked about that he had heard someone 154 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: who would know from someone who would know that there 155 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: had been some conversations between the Texans and and the 156 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: Broncos weeks ago. Money said that right he did. It 157 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: was on the Move the Sticks podcast. Wow, if we're 158 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: trying not to bring that, what what is that? That 159 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: is that something that it happens like five months during 160 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: the year. I don't like what it is. So I 161 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: want to hand it the idea that they would talk 162 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: make some sense, because the most important or inter i 163 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: seen thing I thought out of this whole storyline was 164 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: that the Broncos initially asked Peyton Manning to take a 165 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: ten million dollar pay cut, and they did ultimately shove 166 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: a four million dollar pay cut down his throat. So 167 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: if they were willing to ask him to take a 168 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: ten million dollar pay cut and he had to take, 169 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: they had to have been willing to move on from 170 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: him this offseason. I mean, you don't. You can't tell 171 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: a guy to take a pay cut like that without 172 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: being ready for what's behind door number two, which is 173 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: just saying sorry, cut me. I think that's interesting. And 174 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: the other part that Money talked about was that the 175 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: Broncos perhaps considered this along with the pay cut thing, 176 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: that they they viewed brock Oswilder as a guy who's ready, 177 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers was ready. That's the way Money put it. 178 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,239 Speaker 1: And you know, Rock Sheet wrote told us last January 179 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: that I can tell you from sources inside the Broncos organization, 180 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: this is a guy they feel very good about. So 181 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: we haven't seen much of Broncosts wild other than preseason act, 182 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: but apparently the Broncos are a lot higher on him 183 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: than most people around the country. Ord And look, every 184 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: team is going to do this at the end of 185 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: the season too, even with the changes that they had 186 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: they bring in a new coach, Gary Kubiak's there. I mean, 187 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: of course they're probably not going to trade him, but 188 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: they kind of have to see what's out there and 189 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: what teams are willing to offer. Well, it makes sense 190 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: to me that the Texans would call to see what's up, 191 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: because that would be a great situation for them. The 192 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: conflicting reports really come from who in Denver would possibly 193 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: have been ready to move on from Peyton Manning. Logic 194 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: tells you John Elway is the one calling all the shots. 195 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: Is he the guy that would be excited about going 196 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: to brock Ey Sweiler. There's other reports that John Fox 197 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: really wanted to move on without Peyton Manning and per 198 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: and perhaps that was one of the reasons why when 199 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: he left, John Elway said we didn't see things the 200 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: same way in terms of how we're going to move forward. 201 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: That that makes that a little more believable, because ultimately 202 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: John Elway could have moved on for him, he didn't. 203 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: He's paying him fifteen million dollars a year he's on 204 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: the team. Well, I think every organization there's a faction 205 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: that wants something that maybe the vice president or the 206 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: general manager doesn't want, and those are the that faction 207 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: is usually who the reports come from. Cut feeling will 208 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: go around the horn real quick. Peyton Manning on the 209 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: Broncos next season, Colleen Yesterday, I'd say, now, yes, fields 210 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: make or break this year. Sessler's premonition about retirement. I mean, 211 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: he almost got it right here. This year. Peyton Manning 212 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: is very much year to year. He's forty years old 213 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, I would think though he's 214 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: either going to be with the Broncos or his career 215 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: is over. I don't think there's another team. Emmanuel Sanders 216 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: recently came out and said he believes this is not 217 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's final year. I think it's gonna it's gonna 218 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: come down to it. Can't he do it physically, and 219 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he can move the sticks? Is about 220 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: first downs, We're about touchdowns. How's that? Wow? All right? 221 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: You guys, you guys can your moved the sixth response 222 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: in his next podcast in two thousand and seventeen. Next week, 223 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: moving on, moving on, alright. The update out of New 224 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: England or out of New York where Tom Brady, Uh, 225 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: he had his appeal hearing, of course on Tuesday. It 226 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: lasted over ten hours, his attorney Jeffrey Kessler, so that 227 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: the timetable afterwards for a ruling was up in the air. 228 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: Rap Sheet reported on Wednesday's edition of NFL Total Access 229 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: that the appeal the post hearing briefs for the appeal 230 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: are due late next week. Uh So Goodell Roger Goodell 231 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: don't have the process of those briefs, which means no 232 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: decision is imminent. So it sounds like for the next 233 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: week or two or who knows how long this will 234 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: hang in the air. Colleen, Um, are you surprised that 235 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: this is something that could drag out beyond Tuesday in 236 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: two days and weeks? No, not at all. But I 237 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: think the most interesting thing I saw that came out 238 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: of this was that his appeal. Brady's appeal offered full 239 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: explanations to every question and were context than was provided 240 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: to Ted Wells, which I hadn't really thought about before. 241 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering what other context that he didn't put 242 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: in that report. You guys saw how long that report 243 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: was I guess that's why in the meeting lasted so long. 244 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: But I could see this dragging on. I wish I 245 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: could see the interactions between Brady's lawyers and Ted Wells, 246 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: because Ted Wells is in that meeting awkward, you know, 247 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they've they have basically slammed him. There's a 248 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: lot of funny things about this Tom Brady thing. One 249 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: is that one of the first things we put in 250 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: our article after the appeal ended was that both sides 251 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: agreed to a confidentiality agreement and so that there wouldn't 252 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: be any leaks, you know, about what's what happened in 253 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: that room. Within twenty four hours, there were there was 254 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: an article on ESPN saying what an amazing job Tom 255 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: Brady did in that room and that he was so 256 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: credible and literally the quote was Tom Brady was Tom 257 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: Brady's biggest asset on when Tuesday, and then immediately there's 258 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: another report which came more from an NFL side, leaked 259 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: out saying, you know, Tom Brady didn't give us anything, 260 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: basically that he didn't the first time, so everyone completely 261 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: broke the confidentiality agreement. The vibe in our newsroom on 262 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: that Tuesday. Everybody had a weight around for hours for 263 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: it to end. Everybody thought Tom Brady would come out 264 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the meeting. He ended up going 265 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: out through you know, the underground tunnel or whatever. So 266 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: that was funny to watch live on the feeds. Everyone 267 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: in the office let down. And then there was the 268 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: scramble because there was no leaks initially. And then there 269 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: was an ESPN report where we heard, obviously the Brady 270 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: side of it, and then this wild little piece of 271 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: an ESPN report, I'll read it. Patriots owner Bob Kraft, 272 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: who was on a trip to Israel with a group 273 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: of Pro football Hall of famers, sent a sworn affidavit 274 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: backing Brady. One source said the affidavit was very compelling 275 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: and had quote and almost a holy feel to it. 276 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: What what what are you talking about? Tom Brady couldn't 277 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: resist leaking the air out of football, so how is 278 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: he going to resist? We're on fire? Touchdown thing? This 279 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: now home runs? No, I mean, nothing ever came out 280 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: about who wasn't a team Two teams were heating footballs 281 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: this year, the Vikings and Panthers. Well that was in 282 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: a game against each other. Yeah, but that's still against 283 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: the rules, right, and they just got fine, arbitrary, capricious 284 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: this whole thing. I have less to say now about 285 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: this Brady appeal than I did about the J. J. 286 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: Watt selfie celebration video that we recorded this morning. We've 287 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: done a lot of crazy things. I mean, just to 288 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: feel this back we're doing. We're doing some NFL Now videos. 289 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: Now we're pretending it's week eight to practice for the season. 290 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: Just as a little sample, pull back the curtains. You know, 291 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: we know a whole lot about week eight right now. 292 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: If you want to see some acting chops, just watch 293 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: Dan hands this pretend to have a hot take about 294 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: whether Mike smith is want to get fired or not. 295 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: That's it's the middle of wood than the Trojan Horse. Sorry, 296 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: we're going that video is more sealed off than the 297 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: Brady of meeting. Alright, moving on, alright, we're gonna set 298 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: the table for the scientists. Chris Westling here a little bit. 299 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars haven't had a one thousand yard receiver in 300 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: ten years. What Chris Westling thinks. There are two guys 301 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: that have a chance to do it this year. Second 302 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: year wide receiver Allen Robinson, who has had a quote 303 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: unbelievable uh performance in offseason practices. And Julius Thomas, who 304 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: of course came over from Denver big free agent signing west. 305 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: Why are you so excited about the Jaguars? That's I'm 306 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: just excited to be able to talk about the Bermuda 307 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: Triangle in the NFL. You know, one of those teams 308 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: from the Southeast that you're not allowed to talk about 309 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: because they don't exist. So I think it's fun that 310 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: the Jaguars looked Allen Robinson. Everybody was raving about him, 311 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: Julius Thomas, They're gonna He's gonna be the focal point 312 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: of their offense. Look at their offensive line. They've got 313 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: three guys who could come in and be starters. Blake Bortles, 314 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: it's fixing his mechanics. That Parnell they brought in though 315 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: when he was a backup last year, only has seven 316 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: career starts, and they're still way better than whoever they 317 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: had played. Right spells his name weird at the end, Jeremy, 318 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: look at Colleen, you get that Parnell hot take. Here? 319 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: Are you excited about the Jaguars? I I want to be. 320 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: I wish I could but I'm not really there. I 321 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: like Gus Bradley, I like what he does. I like 322 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: Julius Thomas there and Blake Bortles, and I'd like to 323 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: see Blake Bortles take that next step. I'm with West. 324 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: The Titans and the Jaguars are both more interesting now. 325 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: I think the Jaggars are gonna finished second place in 326 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: that division. I think Bordles has a lot of potential 327 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: to be a really fun quarterback to watch. And uh, 328 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: I think the an should talk next. No, I'm saying, 329 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're all in on the Jacks. Second, 330 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: I said that, I said that months ago that I 331 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: think the Jaggars are going to have the season that 332 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of people expected them to have last year. This 333 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: year at seven or eight wins, it's allowsy to visit 334 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: eight win type of I just I will throw out 335 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: there that some some of us more than others, were 336 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: very amped up about the Jaguars last year. The same leadership. 337 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: We have some different players in the midst issue here, 338 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: but we didn't see a lot from Blake Bortles last year. 339 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: I think the one who was pumped up about the 340 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: Jaguars is not here today. He was pumped up about 341 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: Toby Gerhardt. Mr. Marks, that's amazing. He was expecting a 342 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: lot of yardage out of Toby. But yeah, I mean 343 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: there there's I mean Julius Thomas. That's the one guy 344 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: if I had had to throw somebody out there, that 345 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: I would be the most nervous about. In terms of 346 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: when you look at who are the free agent bus, 347 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: it's a big drop off from healthy Peyton Manning to 348 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: uneven and unproven Blake Bortles. So I don't know if 349 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready to think that he's 350 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: a thousand yards receivers there only target, though he'll be 351 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: their number one target. At least Julias Thomas is a 352 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: good player. This notion that he's a product of Peyton Manning, 353 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: there's just altogether untrue. It's a really interesting young receiver group. 354 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: If you put that receiver group on the Patriots, that 355 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: those guys could be stars, Alan Robinson and Julius Thomas, 356 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: and there's depth there. It's weird. It's weird to see 357 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback with three rookie receivers that are all 358 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: pretty good. They could improve a lot. Mob Bradshaw moving on, 359 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: guess a Mob Bradshaw is facing a one game suspension 360 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: for violating the league's policy and Program on substances of abuse. Uh, 361 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: a league spokesman spokesman confirmed to Around the NFL on Monday. UH. 362 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: This goes back to Bradshaw, who is a free agent 363 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: right now. Running back pleaded not guilty to a marijuana 364 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: possession charge earlier this year. Uh. He's recovered from his 365 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: fractured fibula. Greg, I know when we made that sandwich wager, 366 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: you thought Bradshaw would be giving you some tally when 367 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: we were trying to figure out how much guaranteed money. 368 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: It never happened. Uh. And this is part of the 369 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: reason why I guess and I'm I'm gonna owe you 370 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: a sandwich because the two of the guys we just 371 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: talked about a couple of weeks ago, go give him 372 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: a job, a mod brads On, Pierre Thomas, they don't 373 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: have jobs. They should be on a team, even even 374 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: though my Bradshaw suspended, he should be on a team. Yeah. 375 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: You mentioned last time we talked about him that they 376 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: would probably wait until week two to sign him because 377 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: that's when veteran contracts are no longer guaranteed. That makes 378 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: some sense, especially if you have a one game suspension. 379 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: By the way, I am loyal to a mud roch, 380 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: a member of the l a Gray Beeards. Still in 381 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: my still in my clubhouse, waiting for the phone to ring. 382 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: No suspension on my team. Do you make any phone 383 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: calls on their behalf? Would you rather keep them for 384 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: Colleen or any listeners that didn't? You know? Check this 385 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: article out. Dan made an all star team of of 386 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: older gentlemen who could use some work. Older guys that 387 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: are in greg and I case five or six years 388 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: younger and less or so in an amazing physical shape. Yeah, 389 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: pristine men. So they have a home on my roster. 390 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: Not everyone. By the way, shout out to uh Pierre Thomas, 391 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: who gave me a nice little life thrill who by 392 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: following me on Twitter her after we mentioned him for 393 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: go get him a job. An appreciative Pierre Thomas. Are 394 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: we already in the humble bragg portion of this? I'm not. 395 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: There's nothing humble about it. Who's humble? All right? And finally, West, 396 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: this is important for you to know. Consider this the 397 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: teachable moment, and then it's all just keeping in your 398 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: mind for down the stretch. The Titans announced a new partnership. 399 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: Their stadium is now called Nissan Stadium. It was LP Field. 400 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: Very good. Yeah, I feel like you need to whisper 401 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: that too. Every time you say Nissan Stadium sounds like 402 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: a place where champions are born. Kind of fits though. 403 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: The Titans like a dependable, nondescript relatively. I look, I 404 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: I would be a little better than you realize. I 405 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: owned a center back in the day, like a ninety 406 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: up the three point seven million that you got from 407 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: Nissan and called Titans Field. Mm hmm, I don't know. 408 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: Maybe they got more than three points. Probably, Uh, that 409 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: is what's happening. Alright, Moving on, let's keep rolling. We'll 410 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: get into the making the Leap entry number nineteen on 411 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: the list. He is, you know, a former West Virginia product, 412 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: the second round pick. You know, the Jets. They wisely 413 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: went out and got him. They nurtured him for two 414 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: years and and Greg says it's gonna pay off now 415 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: because in year three of the Geno Smith experience, he 416 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: will make the leap have become all right, maybe not 417 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl star, but in Greg's estimation, a top 418 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: twenty back end the top twenty quarterback and maybe maybe, 419 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: just maybe that's enough to make the Jets a playoff team. 420 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: Is everything I said accurate, Greg, That's true. I'm not 421 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: saying he's going to be a superstar. People have to 422 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: you know. People came at me that, look, this guy 423 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: is never gonna be a pro bowler. That's not the point. 424 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: He can be a guy that is not the reason 425 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: why the Jets lose games. He can be a guy 426 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: who's kind of the middle of the road Alex Smith 427 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: or Andy Dalton type who improves his this as in 428 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: making it's got the talent. I really liked what I 429 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: saw when I watched him in December. He completed less 430 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: than six his passes and back to back seasons. That's 431 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: pretty bad. But Jan Gailey, if anybody's going to be 432 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: able to help him, I guess it would be chan 433 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: Gailey to help maybe with the inconsistent chan Gailey turned 434 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: an offense led by Jade Fieeddler into the number eight 435 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: offense in terms of points scored in the league. He 436 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: got Ryan Fitzpatrick six million dollars. We've talked about Chan 437 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: Gailey and what he's done. I think he runs a 438 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: system that's very similar to what Geno Smith excelled at 439 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: West Virginia, and when you watch you know Smith last December, 440 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: he showed more in that month than Boardles, I think 441 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: or Car did in their entire seasons. Gino Smith shows 442 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: you things. I mean, he can move in the pocket 443 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: very well. I mean he has better pocket movement than 444 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: than a lot of guys who are very good starting quarterbacks, 445 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, guys land moving the pocket, but he moved 446 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: too much in the pocket. I think he's not calmed 447 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: by any stretch when pressure gets on him. That's the 448 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: big when he was protected very well in the last month, 449 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: which is a problem. When I watched Vikings and Jets 450 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: in December, I thought there was a major difference between 451 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater and Gino Smith and feel for the pocket 452 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: and just knowing the position. Teddy Bridgewater seemed more like 453 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: a guy who's going to be a great quarterback than 454 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: Gino Smith. I agree with that. There's no argument to that. 455 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: I think Gino Smith can be a solid quarterback and 456 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: people treat him like he's a punchline, and I think 457 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: if he has a chance to just be a good, valuable, 458 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: mid level starter. If you watch those last four or 459 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: five games he was exactly that level, with the exception 460 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: of the of course, the Week seventeen Dolphins game, where 461 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: he was you know, Joe Montana and Aaron Rodgers combined. 462 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: So you throw that out, but you you look at 463 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: the whole picture, and but why throw it out? Don't 464 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: be unbelievable throws all day. People are like, well, that 465 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: didn't count that you know, the game didn't count. It 466 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: was that doesn't matter. Pay But don't let it suck 467 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: you in. Why not because there's sixteen games and in 468 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: eleven or twelve of them he was crap. So yeah, 469 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: he's he's inconsistent. And also the biggest thing with me 470 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: and Gino Smith is he has showed no ability to 471 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: shake off bad performances or bad throws. He lets things 472 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: snowball on him, and that does not work for any quarterback, 473 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: especially in the market he plays in Week eight, guys, 474 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: back to Week eight, actually that was the week he 475 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: was benched for Michael Vick. There were a lot of 476 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: low moments. That was one of the worst performances ever. 477 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: If you want to talk about Week seventeen, you got 478 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: to talk about Week eight when he threw three interceptions 479 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: and seven passes and got benched in the first quarter. 480 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: Young quarterbacks sometimes go through these where they reach a low, 481 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: and I think the low for him was the Monday 482 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: night football game where Rex Ryan wouldn't let him pass, 483 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: where he only threw the batment right and they ran 484 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: at forty nine times. And after that he had four 485 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: really good weeks. And then when you said he's been 486 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: in consistent, that's fair, But for that month he was 487 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: wildly consistent. I would say he was very steady. And 488 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: then he had the great final week. He didn't make 489 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: bad decisions. He led the league in yards per attempt 490 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: in December, tied getting physical Hr. In my experience, one 491 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: of the biggest mistakes people making quarterback evaluation with young 492 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: players is expecting a late season improvement to carry over 493 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: to the next season. It rarely happens. In my experience, 494 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: it happened with Gino Smith as a rookie. He played 495 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: pretty well in December and people expected him to make 496 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: a jump and it didn't happen. A lot of it 497 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: for me is the situation with Gaily and a lot 498 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: of talent around him. I mean, that's a good group. 499 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: That's a good group. He's thrown to in a great defense. 500 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: So if they're winning games seventeen, Geno Smith is going 501 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: to get some of the credit. He's shown more talent, 502 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: I think than people think. And that's what I mean. 503 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: He's good arm. He can move in the pocket. If 504 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: he needs to get yards on his feet, he can 505 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: do that. He has the tools. If he goes through 506 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: his reads, he shows things that mature quarterbacks show that 507 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: Jay Cutler has never thrown a receiver open in his life. 508 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: He never goes through his reads. Three four. I mean 509 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Gino Smith kind of sits back there and he does 510 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: the sort of things that you that you would like. 511 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: Kind of a quir How do you think Brandon Marshall 512 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: and him will be together? Well, the roommates, so right 513 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: off the bat jack, I think the first year at 514 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: Randon Marshall is usually a nice little honeymoon period. They're 515 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: riding tandem bicycles together and sharing rowboats in the park. 516 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: You got Eric Decker, you got Jason Morrow, you got 517 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: you got Jeremy Curley. Alright, let's play the over under game. 518 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall. Seventy receptions over over one thousand yards, go 519 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: over over under? Just allright? All right? Six touchdowns. I'll 520 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: take the over, I'll go over. I think they'll feed 521 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: him the ball. That's a nice season, especially for the 522 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 1: Jets who haven't had a one thousand yard receiver. U. Well, 523 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: they haven't had many in a long time. Brandon marsha 524 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: is supposed to get especially even with Decker across room. Wait, 525 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: didn't we all agree that he's out of the superstar club. Yeah, 526 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: so we shouldn't expect that. I'm just trying to be 527 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: keep things. Yeah, I think I think like a yard 528 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: type of That's all I'm asking for. But I'm also 529 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: asking for Eric Decker to be better. If if those 530 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: two guys have around two thousand yards combined, you throw 531 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: a little curly and Devin Smith does something. Sorry, wasn't 532 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: it was just the hand? His stats in weeks speaking, 533 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: weeks seventeen over two hundred yards receiving and made a 534 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: lot of things look better. But he had some but 535 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: he was torching Brent Grimes and Rashad Jones, Like, why 536 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: doesn't that count? It's a football game. The Dolphins pack 537 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: it in. I don't think so. They were trying to. 538 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: They almost won the game. They made Geno Smith looked 539 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers and Joe Montana. You said pretty bad, 540 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: Gregg says, the Geno Coaster becomes potentially the Geno scale. Wow, 541 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: could that happen next year? Can we talk about Geno 542 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: Smith as the guy that is the primary idiot and 543 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: if that's the case, Chan Gailly gets all the money? 544 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah. I was thinking it was more 545 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: like Gino is going to be like the train that 546 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: your kids ride at, you know, if you ever go 547 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: to Griffith Park for instance, kind of like the little 548 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: train ride kids around in a very steady, little boring 549 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: you pay, you get your two dollars worth. Kids are 550 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: happy with him. Nothing to the Dalton train. No that, Gina, 551 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: I thought you were comparing Gino Smith to the band train, 552 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: which also sounded realistic. That seemed like it was a 553 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: fair comparison. I think he makes the leap if he 554 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: survived sixteen games without getting betched exactly. That's my that's 555 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: my praise in the room right now. It's not about 556 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: it's about that that people decide on a player so 557 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: early without I don't think watching him necessarily. They just 558 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: want to say, Okay, Gino Smith the bum. He's a 559 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: punch line in New York, and you know, I don't 560 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: think he's been the best, and that what happens to 561 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in New York. And Fitzpatrick's there too, and 562 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: he's been with Shane Gailly before. So if things do 563 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: go south for Gino, it'll be really easy to bention on. 564 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: One thing that made me a little worried. One of 565 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: our security guards here at the company was a teammate 566 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: of Geno Smiths, and he said, you know, initially at 567 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: West Virginia, Gina Smith kind of came in with I'm 568 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: better than everyone security. He actually came up to me 569 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: after the piece because he said, he read you think 570 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: he's going to do well, but it worried me. He 571 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: said he was a little he was a little overconfident, 572 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: had a little trouble winning the room over first. You're 573 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: on it source exposed, all right, So that's making Leap 574 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: And you can read all of our making Leap pieces 575 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: at NFL dot com slash Making the Leap total guess 576 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: is a true? Yeah, that's that's a fast vanity or 577 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: else are the best? You read all of Colleen's were 578 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 1: at NFL dot com slash Colleen's Secrets. That's it, ye diary. 579 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: Will you write out more notes than you got? Buy 580 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: phone finders. I was going through my binders last night, 581 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: actually trying to find weak eate stuff. You Colleen is 582 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: fascinating to me because she has You've told us before, 583 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: you lay in bed at night like devising fake teams, 584 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: and like your mind, you have finders next to your bed. 585 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you are a real football head in your 586 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: own right. It's like a beautiful mind when or like 587 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: the what's the show with them? Like after he goes 588 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: really crazy? Well, yeah, exactly, it's I have maps, I 589 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: have pictures. It's all minority report, is what you thinking? No, 590 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: I like you having some high chech equipment there in 591 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: the world. Is Carmen san Diego. No, that's stuck, that's closed. 592 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: I like this revelation. I don't feel so weird now. 593 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: And I'm actually I'm trying to go digital and get 594 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: away from the binders, but I can. I'm having a 595 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: hard time with millennials refusing to go digital. Total millennial move. 596 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: All right, So that's it making the leap. Keep reading 597 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: him all a lot of great work, and and Gregg's 598 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: around the NFL debut really good work. So we move forward. 599 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: All right, so let's do We talked about this last year. 600 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure we got everything right, So let's let's do 601 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: it again. Let's nail it. Who is not a contender 602 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl? And the shadowy League figures. 603 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: You know, this is not the type of segment that 604 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: they want us to do because you want all the 605 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: fans to have hope that you're gonna win a Lombardi Trophy. 606 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: You want to be the ninety nine Rams, you want 607 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: to be the two thousand one Patriots. But it's not 608 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: gonna happen for these teams, is it, Greg. That's that's 609 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: what we're here to do, squash some hope. So why 610 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: don't we just go through the divisions one by one 611 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: and uh and and rule out And I think we 612 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: should set some ground rules. If you think the team 613 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: can make the playoffs, and maybe the Bengals are an 614 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: outlier or west in your case, you can't say that 615 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: they have no chance because them there in the dance 616 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: totally disagree with you. There's a major difference between being 617 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: a playoff contenter and a Super Bowl contenter. You get 618 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: exposed in the playoffs if your quarterback isn't good enough. 619 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: No chance saying that a chance. To me, this is 620 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: more ab disagree. This is more about teams that have 621 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: no chance that it would be absolutely stunning if they 622 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: even made the playoffs and they have no change, Well, 623 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: then we have to call it something else. You know, 624 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: we did the same thing last year and you didn't 625 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: have a problem with it. I don't call this, but 626 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: there's a difference by the way. It was Homeland what 627 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: I was thinking about earlier, and I think it's really 628 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: about being a contender at all, being a contender for anything. 629 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: All Right, West clearly about to undermine the segment, but 630 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep rawling. West. Are the New England Patriots 631 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: a contender? Yes, they can win a Super Bowl? Dan. 632 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: Can the Buffalo Bills win a Super Bowl? No? They 633 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback? All right, I agree with West. 634 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they're making the playoffs because I think 635 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: the quarterback is gonna bury them. I think they could 636 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Are changed. My answer what you said, 637 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: can they win the super Bowl? Then us these guys. 638 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: Can they win the playoffs? Can they enter the No? No, 639 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: I misspoke, can they win the super Bowl? I don't 640 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: think the Bills will make the playoffs? Is this Are 641 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: they a contender or are they a super Bowl contector? 642 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 1: You're the only one that's not settled. Greg just said, 643 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna do Are they a playoff contender? Well, to me, 644 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: it's one and the same because if they think they're 645 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: totally different there in the can this team win the 646 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: super Bowl? Is the segment? Okay, can the Bills win 647 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Wolf? Greg? Alright, this has to be unanimous. Yeah, 648 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. Can they win the Super Bowl? No, 649 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: they have to say you have no chance whatsoever to 650 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. I don't. I think they have 651 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: a chance if Tannehill turns into a star. Sure. I 652 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: like to live in a world where just unpredictable things happen, 653 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: because because it happens every year, maybe not lately in 654 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. I'd love for the Bills to win the 655 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Sorry and going back to that, but you'd 656 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: love for them. You wish they would. But do you 657 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: think it's even a possibility. To me, this is an 658 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: exercise and picking and picking the worst of the worst 659 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: and the teams that really have no hope. That's what 660 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: we should call it. Alright, So the Raiders they're so 661 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: this is not who is not a contender? This is 662 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: who has no hope? Is that better? I just think 663 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: we should define our parameters. Is that so wrong? All right? 664 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: Who has no hope? The Cleveland Browns? Yes? Or no hope? 665 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: Like a reverse of the A D skill wherever? Doesn't 666 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: it interesting? And I get it? But I think we 667 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: should have a definition. So we think the entire of 668 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: me understanding the A D scale last June and then 669 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: not understanding at this June. No hope for the Browns? No? 670 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: I think? Do we agree that there's no hope for 671 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: the Browns to win the Super Bowl in two thousand fifteen? Alright? Good, alright, 672 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: the Browns, that's one. The Ravens bangles or there's no West? 673 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: Do you think there's any hope at all that the 674 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: Bengals go in the super Bowl? What do you guys think? 675 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any hope that they can get 676 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: past the first round of the playoffs. Now this is 677 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: one It's it's an interesting situation that West brings up. 678 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: I think this is one team. He's right, of course, 679 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: they have enough talent to make the playoffs. But I'm 680 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: not living in any world where any Adalton wins the 681 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We used to literally, well we were wrong then. Also, 682 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: they have a really tough schedule this year. Division no hope, alright, Bengals, 683 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: no hope. The Colts they have hope. The Houston Texans, No, 684 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't like that quarterback situation. I don't think they 685 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: have any hope. No Texans, no hope. Jaguars and Titans 686 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: not ready yet, right, No, they're at least a year 687 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: away from being in the conversation, I would say, I 688 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: think the Texans have what's the most dangerous thing, which 689 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: is too much hope. That's when people are get in 690 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: big trouble there. I don't think they're ready to go 691 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: to the next level when they're really closer to that 692 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: five or six win level. Yeah, they're closer to falling 693 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: off because the schedules a lot harder. Maybe Ryan Mallett 694 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: is going to be amazing. Everything lines up for them. 695 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if he even played a suddenly west 696 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: such a believer in Hoyer that he can keep the 697 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: job all season long. No, I mean, I think Mallett 698 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: will play at some point, but I don't I mean 699 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: he won't. I don't think he'll start the season. Yeah, alright, 700 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: So in the a f C West, the Broncos obviously 701 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: the Raiders will add on this list. We have to 702 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: write the Chargers in Chiefs two interesting teams for this. 703 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: Can the charge it? There's some hope with the Philip 704 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: Rivers involved, right, although he's never got Philip Rivers that 705 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: quarterback and some talent on defense which they do. If 706 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 1: everything came together, they have a chance. Melvin Gordon helps 707 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: out Philip Rivers, so hopefully Green like the Chargers. Yeah, 708 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: all right, how about the Chiefs. I can't do that. 709 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: The Chiefs are not gonna win the Super Bowler share. 710 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that just adding Jeremy Macklin, having that 711 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: him and Andy Reid back together, that's not going to 712 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: solve Alex Smith not being able to get any offense 713 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: sparks for them. I'll allow the chief in what way 714 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: they can. They could happen. So you're blocking him, you're 715 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: doing a block Hope, and he doesn't know how to 716 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: run the ball, and he has Jamal Charles and he's 717 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: terrible clock management. I can't believe I'm sticking up for 718 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: the Chiefs because I can't stand watching them. I think 719 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: they're incredibly boring, and they're not nearly as good as 720 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: a guy like Damnaschik says every year they are. But 721 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: Alex Smith, look at the game he had against Andrew 722 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: Luck in the playoffs a couple of years. He was 723 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: phenomenal in that game Andrew Andy Reid. I feel like 724 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: it's going to have the most underwhelming, like improved tenure 725 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: that a coach can have and can't. Like, he absolutely 726 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: took a situation that was terrible, improved them immediately. They're 727 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: staying improved. And yet is this, you know, is it 728 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: really that exciting that he was like watching paint dry. 729 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: It's really boring. They're incredibly boring. Any he's proven he 730 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: can win ten eleven games as a coach. Yes, he's 731 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: pretty good at that. I mean like the Marvin Lewis 732 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: of the He's like a much better version of Marvin Lewis. Yeah, 733 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: let's move to the NFC East where the Cowboys and Eagles. 734 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: I think we both agree, there's we all agree there's 735 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: some chance, right, Yes, Okay, how about the Giants of 736 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: New York. I've already seen it happen. I'm gonna say, yeah, yeah, 737 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't believe. We know, we know, you know they 738 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: can win. You I can Beckham Jr. Different team, hate 739 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: that you haven't call it? Hey, that just does that 740 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: blown over weak like it was a sign of mental weakness. 741 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: I think that that doesn't mean that that's who he's 742 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: doomed to be forever. But it sounds like you guys 743 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: made up. I haven't reached out to him. Steve Smith 744 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: changed the locks on his penthouse. We could have the 745 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: Redskins on this list, right, hope, No hope at all, Sorry, guys, 746 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: NFC North. The Packers, obviously they're fine having the Lions. 747 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: I think they have hope. They have hope, absolutely, I'm 748 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: going with history. They're over no hope. I'm not really 749 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 1: into it. That job out of a playoff wind last year. 750 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, they could have been in the super Bowl. 751 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: I just don't think that they can completely rely on 752 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford either. And they have joyke Bell, who's coming 753 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 1: off what Achilles and right, So if he is, that's good, 754 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: but they need something, They need some type of running 755 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: game because they can't just rely on him. I had 756 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: faith it would be it would be stunning if they 757 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: won the super Bowl with Matthew Stafford and Jim Caldwell 758 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: as their coach. But like they have enough talent and 759 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: they have a top rank defense from a year ago 760 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: and they have a quarterback? Is it crazier than the 761 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve ray evens was that the year 762 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: they won? But that top ranked defense too? And fairly 763 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: are both gone? Yeah, all right, now go ahead, you 764 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 1: got it. That's that's all. Do you have this story 765 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: like TD had before? Well? I know the story. Here's 766 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: what I want you guys to be careful with because 767 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: I think they have some team of around the NFL buzz, 768 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: which is all all good, but can they actually you know, 769 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: when the Super Bowl? I don't know. But this is 770 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: about who has hope or who doesn't have hope? I 771 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: don't know anymore. The Minnesota Vikings. We love the Vikings 772 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 1: around here. It seems like I would not rule them out. 773 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule them out. There's hope I put them 774 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: in there. You got Mike Zimmer, Maybe that could be 775 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: a top five defense with Adrian petersonskey on quarterback. I 776 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: like Trey Wiens. They added with Xavier Rhodes. A lot 777 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: of good stuff about Michael Kendricks brother who Er and 778 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: Eric Kendricks is going to be a three down starter. 779 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: I uh, I don't like all the buzz though for them. 780 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: That is making me recoil from them as a potential. 781 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: They got that team of a T and heat. I 782 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: would call them the early not favorite, but they're in 783 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: the mix. I feel like, yeah, yeah, you know they're 784 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: in the mix, alright. The Bears obviously we could put 785 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: on this list right all right? How about anybody in 786 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: the NFC South? The Panthers is their hope to win 787 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: your bow? The Saints, m M. I think any team 788 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: with a top ten quarterback, and I'd put Newton, Breeze 789 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: and Ryan and that. I don't think the Falcons have 790 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: a chance. No, their offensive line in their defense are 791 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: still a mess. Yeah, I don't think so either. I'm 792 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna say they have a chance. If the 793 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: Lions have a chance, that Falcons have a How are 794 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: they even comparable the Lions have? The Lions have a 795 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: much more talented roster. I don't know if you ever 796 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: saw Tony Sperano when he buried the ball, but you 797 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: need to. You need to are the two thousand fourteen 798 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: that seasons over. This is a new season. You never know. 799 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: We're talking about roster composition, right, but it's a fifty 800 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: three man thing. You get a couple of lucky bounces, 801 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: you got the key coming. Why not just put the 802 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: Daghars in? Well, that's just crazy. I just feel like 803 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: the Falcons can never get over that hump. And they 804 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: have these great players. They have Julio there and Matt 805 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: Ryan's good for them. They only have like four or 806 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: five good players in the whole roster. Yeah, giving them 807 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: put the Bucks on this list, right, no chan, no hope? 808 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: All right? In the NFC West, Uh is there anyone? 809 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 1: The only one that I'll even bring up is the Rams. 810 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,720 Speaker 1: The Rams have any hope at all in the Super Bowl? 811 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: I think they can be a playoff team. So yeah, 812 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think that they probably have 813 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: the worst offense in the NFL based on the teams 814 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: we've put in. For having some hope, I think I'm 815 00:43:53,840 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: throwing the Rams in there. Got to mention. Uh oh yeah, sorry, 816 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm used to them being good for so long. I 817 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: forgot that they deserves I would put the Rams in 818 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: before I put the I wouldn't. They're coming out of 819 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: the NFC West one of those things. No, what yeah, yeah, 820 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: I can't say the Niners have hope. Wow, what a 821 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: turn of events in Studio sixty six. All right, let's 822 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: we'll read it off now again. This is it. These 823 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 1: teams have no chance to winning the Super Bowl? Uh 824 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: t D. Can we get any type of I don't know, 825 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: maybe some doom or a little taps or anything funeral esque. 826 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:53,240 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns, listen, Tocinnati, Bengals, the Houston Texans, the Jaguars, Titans, Raiders, Redskins, Bars, Books, 827 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: Artie Joiners. You've got no holp. It's shocking that the 828 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: Bengals are on that. But the foul that's ten the 829 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: doomed to tend. I think the only team on that 830 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: list that can be happy are Titans fans. They got 831 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: their name back. They did, they got it back. They 832 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: don't got hope. They're no longer much other watch the 833 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 1: Titans than the Chiefs. All Right, we'll never speak of 834 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,720 Speaker 1: that segment again. Moving on now, let's get Kevin Patrick 835 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: on the line. Kevin Patrick coming at you. He was 836 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: at the or is he still there? As he hold now, 837 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: he's at the simpose that the rookie mc gregg just 838 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: leaving him there, just having him getting all that info. 839 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: Clearly hasn't read a thing from Patrick that's not true. 840 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: All this stuff has been excellent. He's been all over it. 841 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: Kevin is at the Rookie Symposium, has been traveling across 842 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: the Midwest with the rookies, according to Greg And let's 843 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,760 Speaker 1: get him on the line. Patrick, are you there? Going on? Fellas? 844 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: There he is. Listen to that voice. It's great to 845 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: have you back on the show, Kevin Patrick, coming at you. 846 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: What is the middle of Ohio like this time of year? 847 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm standing in a light mist right now so I 848 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: can get self service outside nice. It literally is the 849 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,959 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. I looked on uber Um last night 850 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: and the closest uber was thirty four minutes away. Wow, 851 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: how are you getting to the gym? He's doing? He's 852 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: doing like the hot guy in the hotel move where 853 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: you like, Jimmy's up some type of pull up bar 854 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: and then just goes to town for hours. You do 855 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: it on the door, man, You got to pull up 856 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: on the door. There you go, and you turn up 857 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: the heat to ninety. Hey, I was thinking of you, 858 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: by the way, I was watching The True Detective season 859 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: two premiere and and spoiler, Colin Farrell the detective is 860 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: a little dirty, and to get even he puts on 861 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: some brass knuckles and delivers the knuckle sandwich. And I 862 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: couldn't help but think of you. Do you have brass knuckles? Yes? 863 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: Or no? I do not. I don't play dirty. Um 864 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: tucks no nuck. Alright, getting into any verbal conversations with 865 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: any of these rookie this week verbal confrontation, I have 866 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: a conversation. Yeah, let's use that word. I got in 867 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: a few conversations. Actually, when when I got here, I 868 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: was thinking of this symposium is about, you know, I'm 869 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be professional learning professionalism in your life and work. 870 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: And I was thinking, one of you if that was 871 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: a subtle hint from Greg three that I really wanted 872 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: Kevin to go to all the classes of like how 873 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: to take care of your money, um, you know, how 874 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 1: to be responsible, you know, get a driver. Really it 875 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 1: might be good for the entire around the NFL crew 876 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: to not be the worst thing in the world. Can 877 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: you have a around the NFL symposium? I I went 878 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 1: voluntarily signed up. Patrick, So you've kind of been trailing 879 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: these guys. Is there anything you've seen, whether it just 880 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 1: be like you know, something that they did, or watching 881 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: someone speak with someone else in the media that you 882 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: spoke with him that kind of surprised you. Um well, 883 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: I think the one thing I've noticed that this whole 884 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 1: thing is kind of like a professional version of Scared Straight. 885 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: So they've got a lot of good guys like you know, 886 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,919 Speaker 1: Worke Dumbs in there. Today, Steel Moore had a great 887 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,919 Speaker 1: story about one time he almost slipped out and left 888 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: the team, and they're just kind of like telling him like, 889 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: this is real life. Now, it's not it's not playtime. 890 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: And I thought it was all really interesting and trying 891 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 1: to get these guys to think about, like with things 892 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: that could go bad, like the parties now over. This 893 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,919 Speaker 1: is real and and it's been really interesting. And from 894 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: that perspective, that sounds like a post CEO Morow must 895 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: quit football. You know, it's the middle of June. That 896 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,280 Speaker 1: was a that was a that was a bare minimum. 897 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much more to to his story. 898 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 1: That's fascinating. Who was the guy because in those Scared Straight, 899 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: there's always one Scared Straight guy that that stands apart 900 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: from the rest. I know, Chris Carter has been doing 901 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: this for a while now, who delivered kind of the 902 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: strongest message where it appeared like it really got through 903 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: to the kiddos. Well, I think Chris Carter probably was 904 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: that guy. I mean, he always kind of captures the audience, 905 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: especially young kids who grew up watching him. I mean, 906 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: we gotta think these guys are year old. So they 907 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: mean when it would first be just a moderator talking 908 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: about like a circumstance, they kind of pushed back. But 909 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: then when you had these professional, you know, former pros 910 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: up there talking about our current pros. Brandon Marshall was 911 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: here as well, they kind of like you kind of 912 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,959 Speaker 1: got to like, oh it's real, Like you traveled around 913 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: with him at the Hall of Fame. What was what 914 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: was that like that day where it was just kind 915 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: of like Kevin Patra was almost a member of the 916 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 1: class in two thousand and fifteen here. I don't I 917 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: don't know about all that, but you know it was 918 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: it was interesting to see them interact with like, you know, 919 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: things that they would have not seen I haven't seen. 920 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 1: I just realized that Marcus Mariotta reminded me of Professor 921 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 1: the whole time white. This guy in the group, you know, 922 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: I had his backpack at one point getting some paperwork. 923 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: They had some b roll type thing and he to me, 924 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: he looked like, you know, the soft spoken college sophomore 925 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: going to the eight am class. That doesn't necessarily mean anything, 926 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: but not that doesn't strike you as a like a 927 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: star when you look at him. No, but here what 928 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 1: my my point. We've been talking to some guys this week. 929 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: You know that are more you know they are that 930 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: are louder I for for me with Mario's that's who 931 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: he is, and that's perfectly fine. That's who I want 932 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: to if you're if you're that guy in camera, you're 933 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: that guy in the rest of your life, that's perfectly 934 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: fine because that's who you are when the spotlight shows, 935 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: you are who you are. So if he's a calm, 936 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: demere that he's going to be in the pocket, that's fine. 937 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: If he's that everywhere else in life, as long as 938 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: you're not a phony, that's cool by me. Who did 939 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: you like the most that you that you talked with? 940 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: I still like Shane Ray that's that's my guy. From 941 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 1: some since the draft to now, I still think he's 942 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: he's honest, he's taking everything on. He's not afraid to 943 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 1: say anything. And like I said, that's who he is. 944 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: So I don't need I don't need. I don't feel 945 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: like he's flying or faking his way through anything. And 946 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: I respect that. Patra always a straight shooter. That's his 947 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: whole thing. Ain't no bs when Kevin pattes around? Uh, 948 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: when are you? When are you getting back to Chicago? 949 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: By the way, um tomorrow night? All right, Well you 950 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: have a safe journey, and you know, get back into 951 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: the gym. You know, you gotta be in that routine 952 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 1: to keep up what's going on under that true true? Alright, good, 953 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: all right, buddy, thank you very much for taking some 954 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 1: time to talk to us. There he is heaven, Patrick 955 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: coming at you from What's so funny it was he 956 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: was so earnest about it. He is, he's you know, 957 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 1: that's Patra. He's he's the straightest shooter. You know, I 958 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: think of the group. You just what you see is 959 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,760 Speaker 1: what you get, and he's going to deliver some earnest 960 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: Midwest heat. You sound condescending when you're saying why I 961 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: was so shocked at all when I met him, because 962 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: I really thought he was going to be this big 963 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: like he is Colleen ra kind of guy. Not at all. 964 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 1: He's not Nitro from American Gladiator. Yeah, he had like 965 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: glasses on. Yeah, I think we were all even, you know, 966 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 1: those of us who hadn't met and no Kevin beat 967 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: we're all a little taken it back when Dan first 968 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 1: started talking about his body publicly and privately. Have you 969 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: didn't quite understand? Have you ever heard of Clark Kent? Yes, 970 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: that's who you met. Oh, that would be alright. Finally 971 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 1: we have one more around the NFL correspondent to get 972 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 1: on the horn. And you know, again, this is a 973 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:16,919 Speaker 1: new segment. It's a segment that allows Connor or an opportunity, 974 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: affords him an opportunity to publicly air a grievance. Really, 975 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 1: it's therapeutic for him, it's really. Yes, it's entertaining for 976 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: us and hopefully the listeners, but it's also as Greg 977 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure sure I would agree with, it's good for 978 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: his writing to get out this anger and then he 979 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: can go about his day to day business. Everyone, Yeah, 980 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 1: it's everyone has to get their complaints out before they 981 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 1: can just freshly write another story about Jamis Winston. Right, So, 982 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: that is why we have introduced the segment and we're 983 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 1: bringing it back. It is or you kidding me? Conna? 984 00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: Are you there, buddy? What's going on there? He is 985 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: now Connor on vacation last week. You don't know if 986 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to bring the same fire. Of 987 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: course he was taking shots at Ray Romanto in the 988 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: inaugural Or are you kidding me? But this time around Connor? Um, 989 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think you have a different message to impart. Yeah, 990 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think before I went on vacation, a 991 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,879 Speaker 1: friend of mine invited me up to Manhattan to hang out. 992 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 1: And they said, first they said that they were on 993 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: the Lower East Side. Uh and then they said that 994 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: we'd be going somewhere in the meatpacking district. And uh 995 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: So I just didn't go. You just didn't go, no, 996 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:47,359 Speaker 1: because you know, it's just like do I compass like 997 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 1: when I go there, Like I just you know, you 998 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: tell me like I'm at the owner of you know 999 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: kind of you know the rules when you when the 1000 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: guitar squealing, there's no squealing from you. You You gotta let 1001 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: it out. It's just so surity like it brought it 1002 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: all back. I was just so so wait, your Your 1003 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: problem here is you don't like um, you don't like 1004 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: information about neighborhoods. You don't like neighborhoods to be named. 1005 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: You just would rather have it be all just Manhattan. 1006 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: You created a city on a grid system, right, and 1007 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you just expect us like 1008 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 1: I just learned that, Like it took me like five 1009 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: years to learn that, and now I gotta learn like 1010 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: something else that. I just don't think that's you're changing 1011 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: the rule the big apple more like big foul pole, 1012 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,919 Speaker 1: uh any anything else? So you okay, it's very clear 1013 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 1: that you're saying it's self important of Manhattan. This coming 1014 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 1: from a New Jersey guy to name its areas things 1015 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: like Greenwich Village and Village and the Upper West Side 1016 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: or oh, Hell's Kitchen, I guess would be what you're 1017 00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: referring to. No, Yeah, although problem with the grid system, right, 1018 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: The grid systems great. You know exactly where to go 1019 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: at The grid system is like the Kevin Patra of systems, straightforward. 1020 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: So it is it's like, uh, like the comedian Kevin 1021 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: James always had this thing about phone number rhythm. When 1022 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,319 Speaker 1: you gave out a phone number, it was just bump bump, 1023 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: h bump up. And that's what you should do if 1024 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: you have if you live in New York. It's just 1025 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: and I don't even know where he's going with this now. 1026 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: So although Connor, you made it smart, I don't think 1027 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: you would like the meatpacking district. A lot of douchy 1028 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: bros there. Imagine dropping off West and the meat packing district. 1029 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what the more tee than six? Just 1030 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: drop them off right there? What? Who? Who am I 1031 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 1: dealing with? Collared shirts and seventeen dollar Gin and Tonics. 1032 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: It sounds like hell exactly, sounds like Las Vegas? Yeah, Connor, 1033 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 1: what what's this thing about you? You refused to use 1034 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: a compass? Well, you know what, like the Lower east Side? 1035 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,919 Speaker 1: How do I know where that is? All right? Fair enough, 1036 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: all right, that's a good way to end it. Uh, Connor, 1037 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: anti self important names, anti compass, pro grid and uh. 1038 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 1: And of course you gotta tag it now with your 1039 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 1: question Connor, or are you kidding me? All Right? That's it? 1040 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Connor. That is the second edition of or 1041 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: You kidding Me? H? It will hopefully, you know, I'll 1042 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: be back next to me. It's really up to the listeners, 1043 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: we love it, and the people behind the glass like it. 1044 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 1: But if the listeners don't like it, then you know, 1045 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 1: nobody likes it Unlessen loved it last Yeah, so that 1046 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: is the second edition of Yeah. Did you know that 1047 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 1: Connor is playing the guitar that's plugged into an amp? Yeah? 1048 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: He's very talented? Are you kidding me? Yeah? You know? Um? 1049 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,359 Speaker 1: All right, that's it for Thursday's edition of the Around 1050 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. I guess t D. Do you have 1051 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,760 Speaker 1: anything you'd like to do before we go? Yeah? Definitely. 1052 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 1: You know podcast m VP. That's on the shield and 1053 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: I gotta give it to my man on our Stories 1054 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: guitar instruments. I'm with it, you know. Wow, a little 1055 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: bit of a a little bit of an upset the 1056 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: Colleen didn't get it, let's be honest. Well she's got 1057 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: it before, you know, Like so I don't think I 1058 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: have Wow, that's all right. I'm just gonna have a 1059 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: chip on my shoulder. Now. That was awkward, t D. 1060 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: Just Mr Colleen for Lindsay who did win the it 1061 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: smells sexist back then? I got this with you. Oh 1062 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: that's good, great? Thanks have you made Have you never 1063 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 1: heard that before? Have you made any negative tweets about 1064 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: women's sports recently too? While you're on it, that's it. 1065 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: We will be back. Thank you t D. We will 1066 00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday. Accurate to say, no, it would 1067 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: be Monday. It would be Monday. We'll be back on 1068 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: Monday with another two shows. We'll have another special guest, Collegen. 1069 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us, and we will 1070 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: see you in the now studio. This is Dan Hanson 1071 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: signing off for the Wolf Woman, the Mailman, the Boss, 1072 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 1: and everybody behind the glass until next week.