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Speaker 1: Wall with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us, and bar Garcia

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Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton this Wednesay, October nineteenth, twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: Season eighteen, Episode number fifty four. Welcome to the latest

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Speaker 1: edition of The Break. We're live from the s WBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios at the Star War presenter by mill of Light,

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Speaker 1: the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. Today we talked

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Speaker 1: Detroit offense versus Dallas defense. Nick, I heard you on

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Speaker 1: the radio this morning mentioning that I think this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a tough game for the Cowboys. I do too.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a challenge for them.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a tough matchup. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: some of those things, because I think it starts with

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Speaker 1: the fact starts with their offense versus the Dallas defense.

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Speaker 1: We we'll get into some questions from some fans later

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Speaker 1: in the show. If you guys want to call us,

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Speaker 1: you can call us eight eight eight eight five five

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Speaker 1: five two two nine seven. Let's start first with the

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Speaker 1: Detroit offense versus Dallas defense. Brian, Let's start where we

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Speaker 1: normally start and give us the big picture. What's the

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Speaker 1: best thing that this offense does. They run the ball.

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Speaker 1: They're really good at running the ball too, and they

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Speaker 1: make it hard on you to run the ball because

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Speaker 1: the way they're a gap scheme team, and when I

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Speaker 1: mean gap scheme is that they're going to the direction

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Speaker 1: that they're going to run the ball too. They step

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Speaker 1: hard that way, and then if you're in that gap,

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Speaker 1: if there's a down lineman linebacker, they come off. They

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Speaker 1: actually it's really it's like five guys coming off together.

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Speaker 1: They all step together, and you get actually see depth

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Speaker 1: from the guards. They take a step back and then

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Speaker 1: little bit of leverage there. But they they're gonna use

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Speaker 1: all their running backs in the game. That's something that

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Speaker 1: you know they've dealt a little bit right now with

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Speaker 1: Swift and dealing with an shoulder problem. But Williams Reynolds,

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they they They're gonna just keep They're

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Speaker 1: kind of understand what Jared Golf is as a passer.

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Speaker 1: We all understand, you know, there's some hit and miss

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Speaker 1: with him. I kind of feel like they're best player

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Speaker 1: bit of some ailments, but he looks like that he's

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Speaker 1: They like to throw him the ball in space. They

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Speaker 1: he could be a difficult guy to deal with in

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Speaker 1: it's They've got some really good players at certain positions.

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Speaker 1: Of Penny Sewell, the right tackle that was one of

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Speaker 1: the weakest part of their offense. So I hear everything

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Speaker 1: that perspective, this is not a good matchup for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: You're regardless of what you think of the team and

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Speaker 1: their personnel or whatever, this is just not a good matchup.

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Speaker 1: What they do really well is exactly what the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: That's an area that they've and it could be one

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Speaker 1: people like that that no quarterbacks can run a little bit. Nick,

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Speaker 1: a bootleg. I know. It was a bad night, all around,

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Speaker 1: bad night, it was all, but it was just one

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Speaker 1: was different. Um, where do they rank in rush defense?

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Speaker 1: Do we have that? Because I just don't. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's a massive problem. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was in this game. I mean like, well,

432
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: three point five yards to carry and the long run

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Speaker 1: where one was on third and eighteen by the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: The other one was on the first play of the

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Speaker 1: drive for thirteen yards that they killed the game on. Yeah,

436
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 1: but it was five, it was six, it was four,

437
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: it was one, it was two, it was one. You know,

438
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 1: there was a lot of that going on. They were

439
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: they were committed to run in the football. They were

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00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 1: they knew that Jack Driscoll, that when Jack Driscoll went

441
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: in the game, that was that was it. That was like, listen,

442
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: we can't let this this guy block against Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 1: If we dropped back and throw the ball here, we're

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Speaker 1: in trouble. The thing I think, Derek to me, is

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Speaker 1: it scheme? No, is it the Is it the players themselves?

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Speaker 1: I think it's more than that or like that, because

447
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: to me, when I watch and I love Dorn's Armstrong.

448
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Speaker 1: I mean I've gone on several platforms talking about Doran's Armstrong.

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Speaker 1: Even for the season, I thought, man, this guy's got

450
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Speaker 1: to get now. He's great, great, great where Dorge Starmstrong

451
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Speaker 1: as good as rushing the passer, twist stunts, things like

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Speaker 1: that wide rush, anything to do when it came to

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Speaker 1: rushing the pass and being athletic. He's not a great

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Speaker 1: run player. He's just not. He gets hooked, he gets washed,

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Speaker 1: you know. And then all of a sudden, you get

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Speaker 1: guys that we talked about the corners playing too wide

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Speaker 1: when the ball comes to there, you know, when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the outside. Now the inside stuff, though, too,

459
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Speaker 1: is those defensive tackles, you know, Osa Bohannah, those guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, Uh Gallimore, those guys have got to do

461
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Speaker 1: a little bit better job too when when that ball

462
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Speaker 1: comes inside, walking your best defensive defender, run defender in

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Speaker 1: the middle. He had no stats in the game the

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Speaker 1: other day, and all of a sudden, it was like

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Speaker 1: he was the best player physically at the point of attack.

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Speaker 1: He was getting off blocks and it was helping other

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Speaker 1: people around him. But they've struggled at linebackers some too,

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Speaker 1: with Layton Vanderus. Vanderush has been very good at times

469
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Speaker 1: and then he's been very bad. But you could watch

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Speaker 1: NFL games for everybody and see linebacker play that's not,

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Speaker 1: you know, not great every single snap, But I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think the coach has done a great job

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Speaker 1: of putting them in play in position to make plays.

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Speaker 1: Have you physically been able to stand up and play

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Speaker 1: the run like you need to play run at times?

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Speaker 1: They have not yet To answer your question, Nick, they

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Speaker 1: are eleventh right now in yard rush yards allows per

478
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Speaker 1: a temp because I'd rather do that than total yards

479
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Speaker 1: because some teams played more games than others. But if

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Speaker 1: you look at yards per tempt, they're eleventh right now,

481
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Speaker 1: and how many yards they give up per attempt at

482
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Speaker 1: four point five, that's not a huge problem. But I

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Speaker 1: will tell you this. The way the way I look

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Speaker 1: at it is what makes it more of a huge

485
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Speaker 1: problem for me is at moments, and we saw it

486
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Speaker 1: in this last game. At moments when they need to

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Speaker 1: stop the run. I don't know that they've been as

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Speaker 1: successful as I need to know. You're right about that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Eagles, you can't you can't argue that one.

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Speaker 1: I just I also think it's a style of play

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Speaker 1: that they're they're playing and they don't want to give

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Speaker 1: up big plays. And I think the more you let

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks get on the field and then expose them

494
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Speaker 1: to penalties and then passing, if they just keep going

495
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Speaker 1: methodically down the field, they're gonna make a mistake. Give

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Speaker 1: the Eagles credit for not making it on that line.

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Speaker 1: And that's the key, right, you can run up against

498
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Speaker 1: the team and then they are were to go back, Yeah,

499
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: they have to throw and they're off the field and

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00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: there's a reason why they're two and four, right, And

501
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: so that's the point. Like, if you run up against

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Speaker 1: the team that has that kind of discipline that can

503
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: actually make those kinds of drives, that becomes a bit

504
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Speaker 1: of well. It also helps when you have a lead.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can get teams out of running the football.

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Speaker 1: If you've got a lead, fine, run the ball. That's great.

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Speaker 1: Kill you know the commanders whoever run the ball and

508
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Speaker 1: it take eight minutes off the clock. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're you're you're not going to get two

510
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Speaker 1: more possessions out of this game. So that that's where

511
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: Dak comes in. That's where all of a sudden, if

512
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Speaker 1: you find a way to put the Lions you know,

513
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: behind in this game double digits. Now, all of a sudden,

514
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: handing the ball to Swift and Williams and Reynals is

515
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: not the plan, right, It's okay, Now you can sick

516
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Speaker 1: the rush on these guys and let's see if you

517
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Speaker 1: can pass blot you know when talking about the run defense,

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Speaker 1: uh something that seems simple too. And I don't want

519
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Speaker 1: to put everything on the linebackers because it's ever everybody,

520
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta improve, everybody needs to do better

521
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: when it comes to that. But I often feel that

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Speaker 1: a lot of the time, especially when they're running inside,

523
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: you get the line like it's the linebackers problem where

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Speaker 1: they are just not able to track the ball properly

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00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: and react quick enough to make that cut and go

526
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 1: this way or that way and follow the ball, and

527
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: they're always that allows them to run a little bit

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Speaker 1: more and then you kind of you don't get there

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Speaker 1: as fast as you need to. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: an area that I mean, I'm not coach or anything,

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Speaker 1: but watching from upstairs, it just seems like it's very

532
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: It's the most like fixable or like quick fakes that

533
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: you could possibly work on. It's just positioning the linebackers

534
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: better and just having them follow track the ball. React

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00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: a lot quicker to that, because, like I said, even

536
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: last week, there's a play that still bugs me. It's

537
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: lay in vendor Is. The Eagles are running through the middle.

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00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: The middle is complete open, you got a nice hole there,

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00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: and then vanderash is over here. He's looking at kind

540
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: of like the mess that's going on to his ride

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00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: and he doesn't even realize that the running back is

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00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 1: running right there. And then by the time you know,

543
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: it's too late. So that's the thing that, oh, you're

544
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: absolutely right. The linebackers just need to have a better bit.

545
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: And it might be something to do with your scheme

546
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: because how Dan is not playing with three linebackers. It

547
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: might be a little bit teams are getting you into

548
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: your sub packages, your nickel packages and all of sense, Like, okay,

549
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: if you're not going to put a legitimate linebacker on

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00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 1: the field, we'll run the football. You know, we'll say, Okay,

551
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: you could put Wilson down there, and if Wilson misses tackles,

552
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: it looks really bad. You know. If you put Curse

553
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: down there and he misses tackles, it's really bad. But

554
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: you are going, you're saying, you know what, we're gonna

555
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: play with a light box because of the light box,

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Speaker 1: and I mean in a way of lighter players. You know,

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00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: that's the thing that they run into as well, like

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Speaker 1: you're gonna pull a safety down in the box, sir,

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00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: We'll run the ball. Let's see you deal with that.

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00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: Let's see you do. We were talking with Barry Church

561
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: about that, playing with the light box. You know, he goes,

562
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: there's a safety. You do not want to play linebacker

563
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: in this league as a safety, you don't. But that's

564
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: what dan Quinn, that's what we always praise Dan quick.

565
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, look what he's getting out of Curse. Look,

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Speaker 1: and it's working. Look what they're doing. Yeah, but to

567
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: a point, you're also you're putting lighter players in position.

568
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: Something's gone. But you're right about Vanderesh because on the

569
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: Sanders touchdown run, you can watch it clear as day.

570
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: You know you're in a situation where you know the

571
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: ball's running up inside and he jumps from the B

572
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: gap where he's supposed to be to the A gap

573
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: and now the ball's in the B gap for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: If only there was a linebacker who's a rookie who

575
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: looks just like a linebacker that's maybe ready to play,

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Speaker 1: I mean that would that would I know there's a

577
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: lot asking of a rookie, but I would love to

578
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: see if he's healthy and he looks like he's getting closed.

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Speaker 1: Is the Moan Clark he's played? Well, see him because

580
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: there's no all mistaken Well, I mean there is a

581
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: mistaken with him being a linebacker because he looks like

582
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: a defensive band in a tackle. I mean he's a big,

583
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: big guy that can run um if he's cleared to play, though,

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Speaker 1: I'm anxious to see how they use him there. Let

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00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: me ask you this question, would you guys consider this week?

586
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: And I think that's a great point. Nick, When he's ready,

587
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: obviously that probably isn't gonna happen this week. I don't think.

588
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: Maybe not, Maybe it is. I started his window for

589
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: a reason, Yeah, I started. It's just the third week,

590
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: it is like this is this is where we're at

591
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: the point where it could be this movie. Yeah, but

592
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: he can play at any time. But I'm saying like,

593
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: even at that he didn't play. I mean, he didn't

594
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: have a training camp. My suspicion is you're not going

595
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: to go into a game at this point and put

596
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Speaker 1: him out there for a substantial number of special teams. Right. Yeah.

597
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: So that being said, would you guys consider in a

598
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Speaker 1: game like this where you're facing a team that the

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00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: best thing they do is run the ball? They would

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Speaker 1: you consider, Hey, I am going to line up in

601
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Speaker 1: a conventional four three defense. I'm putting three linebackers on

602
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: the field. One of those linebackers will be like a

603
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Speaker 1: part since and I'm gonna get a heavy front four,

604
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: and I'm going to stop the run. Would you go

605
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: that far? Would you? If you were Dan Quinn? Would

606
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: you go that far away from what you've been doing

607
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: all season because you think this matchup may require if you,

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Speaker 1: if you feel good enough about covering Shark Reynolds and

609
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: Saint Brown, go for it or putting some those guys

610
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: scare you enough where you got to give him more.

611
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: Saint Brown scares me a little bit just because of

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00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: how shifty he is and you can you know, and

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00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: that's and that's an easy throw and then a run. Yeah,

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00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: you know. I think that Mica needs to be a

615
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: little bit more in the middle of the field. If

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Speaker 1: you're going to play him at linebacker, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see him some in the middle because I think he

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Speaker 1: can rush from there as well. I really feel like

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Speaker 1: when he lines up wide on the outside and there's

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Speaker 1: Tank right there, I mean, it's really easy. If I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you, but I'm gonna go over here. Yeah,

622
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Speaker 1: like he's there, I'm gonna go here. Flip. Yeah. Well,

623
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Speaker 1: running the ball at Armstrong is not a bad proposition. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take our final break when we come back.

625
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Speaker 1: We got some fan questions. I do have one question

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Speaker 1: for you guys, though, once we come back from break yesterday,

627
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Speaker 1: I ask you if you felt different about this team

628
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: coming off that last game. I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: specific to the defense, because this is the first game

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Speaker 1: where we've seen them give up as many points as

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Speaker 1: they gave up. I want to ask you if you

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Speaker 1: guys have a different opinion of the defense now following

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Speaker 1: that game last weekend. We'll talk about that when we

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Speaker 1: so here we go. This is the question I have

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00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: for you guys. You do look at this defense and

681
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: in this last week, can not their best performance? Uh?

682
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: Still some things that were good. I don't want to

683
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: say they weren't good because they had four sacks. I

684
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: mean that's a good day for any defense, but just

685
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: not as good as what we've grown accustomed to seeing them.

686
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: Do Do you guys have a different opinion of this

687
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: defense coming out of the Philadelphia game than you had

688
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: going in? Not? Really? I mean I really don't. I

689
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: think that this is a really good defense, and uh

690
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: you know they I think that defense played well enough

691
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: to win the game. I really do. I mean, they

692
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys gave them more possessions than they should have had

693
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: a favorable field position throughout the game. There, Um, you

694
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: know you play that again. Give offense, I mean, how

695
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: much better do you think Dak is than Cooper Rush?

696
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean, is heasy when he's healthy? Is he that

697
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: much better where he can get three to four more

698
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: first downs? Three or four more first downs a game

699
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: is maybe you know it's it's maybe seven points more

700
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: and it maybe three points less in that game. I mean,

701
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: that's just a ten point swinging you lost by nine.

702
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: I know it that's too simple, but I'm just saying,

703
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: just being a little bit more efficient on offense, which

704
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're expect them, can help the defense.

705
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: I think they had chances to win the game regardless

706
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: if they don't tackle. Well. Man, it's that's a problem,

707
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: that meaning, because that's the thing about this defense has

708
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: done a great job when it comes to pressure. They've

709
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: been thrown in some terrible situations too this year, bad punts, turnovers.

710
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: You know, they've come up basis and you know you've

711
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: got to give them a lot of credit for that.

712
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: But you know, if they if they don't, they just

713
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: needed one more stop, man. I mean you're just and

714
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: you're thinking in yourself it's like, if they just get

715
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: one more stop, this game could go the other way.

716
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: You could steal one here with a nut with your

717
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: your quarterback that you know has done well, has done well.

718
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: But defensively, the thing about it is it's going to

719
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: be this tackling stuff, you know, because they can't go

720
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: into these games and and and give up, especially big games,

721
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: and tackle as poorly as they did in that one.

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Speaker 1: Because that that's the thing. You know. We could talk

723
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: about the run defense and all that. I think they

724
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: can work all that out, but man, if if they're

725
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: going to tackle poorly, then they're gonna be caught in

726
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: some games where they're not going to be good enough

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00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: to win. Yeah. I don't think any differently about this

728
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: defense either. I think that everyone has a bad day,

729
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: and they just had a bad day in the aspect

730
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: that I don't think like it's one thing watching tape

731
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: looking at opposing teams and all that. It's another thing

732
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: getting in the game playing against all that and realizing,

733
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: oh crap, okay, this is all different. And I do

734
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: think they started out the game not being ready for

735
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: that kind of like that kind of game, but they

736
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: did improve as like when they came back in the

737
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: second half of the game, you saw the difference, and

738
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: maybe it was on the Eagles, you know, you talked

739
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: to about that, Brian, how the Eagles kind of calm

740
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: down stall, yeah and all that. But I think I

741
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: do give them credit for kind of readjusting and just

742
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: playing better in that second half. I just I just

743
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: think it was more of a thing of them not

744
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: realizing maybe how difficult it was actually gonna be. Like

745
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: it's it's just how can you really prepare for that,

746
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna be competing in practice at that

747
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: same level. Like you don't know exactly what the Eagles

748
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: were gonna I mean, you do know, but it's just

749
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: being in there and actually playing in that way that

750
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: it's just kind of what I think threw them off

751
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: in that way. But I think this is something that

752
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: they learn from it and they're gonna improve. I think

753
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: you'll think better this defense if Dak Prescott comes back

754
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: and plays really well in the second half of the season,

755
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, because it'll be a lot different. It'll be like, Okay,

756
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: now you're back to doing the things that you're capable

757
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: of doing. The pressure, you know, the sacks, the forcing,

758
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: the turnovers, things like that. But I think that's the key,

759
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: and that's why I think differently of this defense right now.

760
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: And that's not to say I don't think they're a

761
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: good defense. I really think they're a good defense. I

762
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: started to let myself believe that maybe they could be

763
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: a great defense. And what I mean by great defense

764
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: is I mean like a shutdown defense. You get them

765
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 1: in situations where the game is in their hands. It's

766
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: it's you can count it up, it's done right. It's

767
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of like those quarterbacks like Brady. You give

768
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: him two minutes left and he needs a score to win.

769
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: Everybody is packing up their stuff, like, Okay, they're gonna

770
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: win this game. It's that kind of yeah, exactly, you

771
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: gave him too much time. That's what you're thinking about

772
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: as you score with two minutes left. I was starting

773
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: to let myself believe that maybe this defense was that,

774
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: and maybe they still may be, but right now there

775
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: is doubt in my mind, and it's and the doubt

776
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: comes in in the fact that not just that they

777
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: that they allowed that game at that moment, that they

778
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: couldn't seize the moment, But it's how they couldn't seize

779
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: the moment. It was with that one thing that I think,

780
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: and again I'm not speaking for you guys, one thing

781
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: I think has been their Achilles heal throughout the season,

782
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: which is stopping the run. Right, And so for me

783
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: and I now have a different opinion of them. Now

784
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Dad comes back, Dak scores more

785
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: points with the offense. Now they don't get exposed, right,

786
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: the area where they may not be as strong doesn't

787
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: get exposed as often because you put team situations where

788
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: they can't run the ball, and now it makes them

789
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: look even better. But that does still concern me, and

790
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: certainly we concern me once you get to the playoffs

791
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: and you're playing better teams that can score more points,

792
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: and how I'm a little bit concerned about that until

793
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: they show me consistently they can stop the run in

794
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: those kind of situations. I ask you this, if you

795
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: take away their own mistakes as far as like the

796
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: penalties that they've created in that game, which were quite

797
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: a few, do you think differently do you go back

798
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: to like changing your opinion of thinking, Oh, like take

799
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: away the run because I think they did enough. But

800
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: were they screwed up? In my opinion, it's just shooting

801
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: themselves in the foot, like making their own mistakes. You

802
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: take that away, and I think you could have very

803
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: much won this game against the Eagles. I don't know

804
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: what you guys think about, but I just think that

805
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: that was the biggest thing as far as the defense

806
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: make it those kind of mistakes and other than that,

807
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: to me, as long as those mistakes are not normal,

808
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: like if you say, like last year's team, if you

809
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: take away the penalties, but you don't take away the

810
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: penalties because that's who they are. If we haven't seen that,

811
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: that's who they are just yet. But I don't have

812
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: a huge problem with I mean, yeah, you wanted to

813
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: get off the field and win the game. I get it.

814
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: You get off the field there, you probably do win

815
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: the game. But you know you're asking your defense to

816
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: shut out the Eagles in the second half. You know

817
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: they're a run team. You're down twenty to three. You're

818
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: asking them to shut them out. They didn't. They give

819
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: up six points. That that was still a very good

820
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: second half defense for the Cowboys. Even with that drive.

821
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: They were balling out and they gave that offense a

822
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: chance to finally get going, get going. So they didn't lose.

823
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: To me, they didn't lose because the defense. They lost

824
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: because of their offense. Now I get that, and I'm

825
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: not I'm not saying you're saying the reason why. What

826
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that drive. And I'm looking even at

827
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: that drive Amber when you talk about them stakes. They

828
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: didn't have any penalties on that drive. That was a

829
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: clean drive both teams. Neither team had penalies that drive.

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00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: It was strong against strong games on the line, it's

831
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: a three point game and Philly one, like Philly said,

832
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: we are driving this ball right down your throat and

833
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: Dallas couldn't stop it. That's the part that made me

834
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: think a little bit different again about this defense. Again,

835
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're bad. I'm saying that that took

836
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: them from being just I can I can count on

837
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Speaker 1: them to dominate in the moments they have to dominate

838
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: to a defense that's pretty good, and they're really good,

839
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Speaker 1: But I don't know if I can count them in

840
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: all those situations against good teams. It's funny, though, I

841
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: think when people compare great defenses, they always talk about

842
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: the eighty five pairs. They always talk about that, is

843
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: that what y'all going You say what I think you're

844
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: gonna say, go ahead, No, this is more like the

845
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: two thousand and six pairs. If you're thinking about teams

846
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: that it was a super Bowl defense. Yeah, you know,

847
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: and but they had Rex Grossman playing quarterback. You know,

848
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: it was that kind of But if you go back

849
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: and look, they were third in points against, you know,

850
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: fifth in yards they were good at they were first turnovers,

851
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: they were second in first down, they were you know, passing,

852
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: they were eleventh in yards. You know, there were things

853
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: that about that defense. It wasn't it was a It

854
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: was a defense that got to the super Bowl, but

855
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't one of these like when you say it

856
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: wasn't one of the great deal of time, you always

857
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: compare these they're saying, wow, this could have been like

858
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: the It could have been like daty five Bears. It

859
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 1: wasn't two thousand and one Ravens nous. It's the two

860
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: thousand and six Bears. It's good enough to get to

861
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: the super Bowl and you still got some kind of

862
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: things along the way, and you're playing with a quarterback.

863
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of where if you asked me

864
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: what this defense is. Thank you. That's a good one.

865
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: That's a good comparison. Well, I was I was gonna

866
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: say it was funny you said eighty five Bears, because

867
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, in nineteen eighty five,

868
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: the Bears were I don't know, like ten and oh,

869
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: eleven and oh, and they're recording the Super Bowl shuffle

870
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: song and all that stuff, and you know you were

871
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: doing it. I was doing it. Yeah. Then they go,

872
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: I can name, I can do a couple of verses,

873
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: but del yeah, they called me sweetness. I like to

874
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: dance out. Anyways, they got beat on Monday night by

875
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. It's like thirty eight twenty four or something

876
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: like that. Marino was just dicing them up that night.

877
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: And you know, they came back on the Chicago on

878
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: the Bear break the next morning and they were like,

879
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: I don't know about this defense, and it's Merrick Eagle

880
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: right rightfully. So, but they came back and you know,

881
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: they didn't want lose again, and they went, they went,

882
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: and they won the Super Bowl, which again I'm allowing

883
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: for the fact that this is this is only like

884
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: we said earlier week, like sports is fluid. Right now,

885
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: I have some I gotta be honest, I have some

886
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: doubts in the back of my mind. That doesn't mean

887
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: that you give me a few more games that they

888
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: can answer those doubts and it's like, yeah, we fixed that.

889
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: That's not a problem for us anymore. Don't be jumping

890
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: back in the no, no, no, no, it's not about it.

891
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: It's sports is fluid, like it changes every time you

892
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: see a team play. You can have a different opinion, though.

893
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: I think give Eagles credit for going and you know,

894
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: and and and getting it together in the in the

895
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: second half when they hadn't yet. They figured it out

896
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: and they want that they needed to go put points

897
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: on it and close the game out, and they did that.

898
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna be a good offense all

899
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: year long. And I think this is going to be

900
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: a great defense all year long. And you know, I

901
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: don't I don't not discourage necessarily by that. If they

902
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: if they're down, you know, by seven or three points

903
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: against Detroit and they need to get off the field,

904
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: and if it's just Swift and Williams and Swift and

905
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: then Hawkington and all that, and they go and win

906
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: the game, then yeah, I'll be concerned. Yeah, Christmas Day, Yeah,

907
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: Christmas Day and and to be honest with you, Thanksgiving

908
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: Day too. Christmas like yeah, but maybe Christmas Eve. But

909
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: thanks Thanksgiving is also I think gonna be a very

910
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: interesting game. We I think when we saw the schedule

911
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: we probably thought it that's an easy win. Giants are

912
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: playing some good football. I think that's gonna be an

913
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: interesting game on Thanksgiving and on Christmas Eve. Don't always

914
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: play well and Thanksgiving, do they? That's my point, So

915
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: that might be an interesting that might be an interesting game.

916
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: May never lost five Thanks you Giving Inner m I

917
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: hadn't played the Giants in thirty years on Thanksgiving. Wow,

918
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: you have not been to a Giants Cowboys thinks? I

919
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: know neither I but thirty years, thirty years? Thanks you

920
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: played last year? Thatst year? It can't even Yeah, that

921
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: would have been I can tell you the Nine Raiders

922
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: Upside Las Vegas. Yeah, Las Vegas. It tells yeah, Las

923
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: Vegas thirty three thirty like that, like it was overtime, overtucked. Yeah, yeah,

924
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: that game. Sean Hockley wanted to be He wanted to

925
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: be star on Thanksgiving days, Moms watch anyone. Mom near

926
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: his name, and Dad was like, welcome my kid, callings penalies.

927
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: It was. It was the first flag. Look at those

928
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: arms I've ever been. Look at those arms. All right,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys for joining us. We'll be back tomorrow.

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00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 1: We'll get into the Lions defense versus the Cowboys office

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Speaker 1: got a chance keep from nick Eman. Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: and we got see. I'm Derek Hilton. This has been

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