Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour in this Monday Reggie Miller, he'll
Speaker 1: be joining us. The return of Aloisius coming up in
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes or so. More phone calls, best and
Speaker 1: worst of the weekend, What we saw that we liked,
Speaker 1: we didn't like. Mclovin as a poll question, are you
Speaker 1: staying with the poll question? Final Hour and mclovin, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it. Who do you blame for the Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers situation? Aaron Rodgers or the Packers? Say the Packers? Okay,
Speaker 1: I think from the outside, I think nationally as opposed
Speaker 1: to locally, that most people would put the blame on
Speaker 1: the Packers because they drafted Jordan Love. You know, it
Speaker 1: was a risk when they did it. The risk and
Speaker 1: the reward was The risk was is Aaron Rodgers going
Speaker 1: to be upset? The reward is he gave you an
Speaker 1: MVP season, and yes he is upset. Imagine if Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers had a subpar season, Let's say you add half
Speaker 1: of the touchdown passes, they missed the playoffs. Then we're
Speaker 1: talking about Jordan Love in the future, his future with
Speaker 1: the Packers, and that being a smart draft pick. I
Speaker 1: don't know who leaked this, Like that's what I'm interested,
Speaker 1: you know. I think there's been unrest, uncertainty, an uncomfortable
Speaker 1: feeling between Aaron Rodgers and the franchise. I think that's
Speaker 1: been there for a little while. Now where are we going?
Speaker 1: Is this business? Is this a business decision by Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers or is it personal? Because it can be personal,
Speaker 1: but you still, like I had, I had feuds with
Speaker 1: people at ESPN that was personal, but the business side
Speaker 1: of it was I still wanted to stay there. And
Speaker 1: can you put that to the side. This is your
Speaker 1: immediate boss, the GM Brian Goodacunst. That's tougher because I
Speaker 1: didn't see my boss every day at ESPN, and if
Speaker 1: I did, then it probably would have been tough to keep,
Speaker 1: you know, blinders on and just saying, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: going to do my job. Obviously that is to a
Speaker 1: lesser degree what's going on here. But you know, that's
Speaker 1: the only feeling, you know, or firsthand knowledge I would
Speaker 1: have of something like that, that this guy is going
Speaker 1: to have you know, he's drafting your replacement. He bet
Speaker 1: against me, and now here we are and he doesn't
Speaker 1: give you the heads up. I think if he I
Speaker 1: think if the Packers gave Aaron a heads up. Judging
Speaker 1: from what Rogers said when he was on a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, it just felt like, why am I
Speaker 1: finding out like everybody else? When could you have told him?
Speaker 1: Because that's another part of this. Let's say you said,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers going into the draft, Hey, if there's somebody
Speaker 1: there that we like, then we might we might take
Speaker 1: him as as a quarterback down the road, just so
Speaker 1: you know, don't want to We don't know yet. Let's
Speaker 1: see how the draft plays out. We don't want you
Speaker 1: to be surprised. Just a heads up? Would that have helped?
Speaker 1: And I'm guessing he wouldn't have been happy, but he
Speaker 1: would have at least respected you that you did let
Speaker 1: him know what you were going to do. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what a lot of these players would like
Speaker 1: to know. Is Tom Brady upset that the Buccaneers drafted
Speaker 1: Kyle Trask? No? No, I don't. I don't think so,
Speaker 1: And I don't why he would be. It seems like
Speaker 1: a smart pick. I mean, got a chance to learn
Speaker 1: from Tom Brady two years. Maybe Tom is not playing
Speaker 1: anymore and this could turn out to be a really
Speaker 1: good draft pick, the quarterback out of Florida. Yeah, Poet,
Speaker 1: But like you said, maybe the Packers Brass and Rogers
Speaker 1: didn't get along for a while now and they didn't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable calling him on draft night thinking, hey, look,
Speaker 1: we're two minutes away from on the clock and we're
Speaker 1: going to draft this guy. Maybe they didn't have that
Speaker 1: kind of relationship, and it goes back further, like you said.
Speaker 1: And I don't know where we go from here, because
Speaker 1: Peter King, who joined us in the first hour, said
Speaker 1: he doesn't think Aaron Rodgers is the coreack Week one.
Speaker 1: I think it's still the best place for him to
Speaker 1: win a championship or compete for a championship, if he
Speaker 1: goes to the Raiders, if he goes to Denver, and
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, it's not a big guest
Speaker 1: or leap of faith to say they're gonna if they
Speaker 1: trade him, they would trade him out outside of the NFC.
Speaker 1: I don't think you want Aaron Rodgers to come back
Speaker 1: and haunt you like that. Now. The question is what
Speaker 1: would be a destination. Where would he want to go?
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a no trade Russell Wilson has a
Speaker 1: no trade and you know, I guess the speculation over
Speaker 1: the weekend was, well, why not send him to Seattle
Speaker 1: and then send Russell Wilson to Green Bay played his
Speaker 1: college ball at Wisconsin. I don't know if that's on
Speaker 1: the list of teams that Russell. I think Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: we haven't heard anything, right, heard Pete Carroll, John Schneider
Speaker 1: sort to give you idea of what happened and where
Speaker 1: they are right now. And from what I'm told, Russ
Speaker 1: Russ is doing fine. Russ is fine. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he gets to be involved in any conversations
Speaker 1: here of what they do as a team, but I
Speaker 1: do think he got their attention, and maybe some things
Speaker 1: were addressed in the draft and a free agency there.
Speaker 1: But I don't see that swap there between these two. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was watching Kentucky Derby at NBC and they started
Speaker 1: showing Rodgers in the stands on social media had Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers all over the Kentucky Derby. I kept thinking of myself,
Speaker 1: if Mike Trego Aaron Rodgers to sit down for an
Speaker 1: interview during the broadcast, it'll be the highest radio Kentucky
Speaker 1: Derby of all time everyone want to tune into that.
Speaker 1: Couldn't get him to sit down and do something on camera,
Speaker 1: talk to him off camera. Before the derby, NBC aired
Speaker 1: interview with Mike Treco, the trainer, Bob Bafford, and the
Speaker 1: Patriots head coach Bill Belichick. Then, after Bafford's Horace Medina's
Speaker 1: Spirit won the race, Afford thanked Belichick for giving him
Speaker 1: good luck, not that he needed it. I mean, Bafford's
Speaker 1: won the Derby seven times, but the sports different. You
Speaker 1: could make an argument that Bafford belongs in the conversation
Speaker 1: with the likes of some of the great coaches Belichick,
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, Mike Shashevsky. Bafford talked about expectations with Belichick
Speaker 1: and since they're so successful, we take for granted on
Speaker 1: just how hard it is to win. And Bafford picked
Speaker 1: this horse. This horse was once sold for a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: So you can have all these sheiks that have billions
Speaker 1: of dollars and they're trying to buy a winner. Here.
Speaker 1: This is a twelve to one, the odds twelve to one,
Speaker 1: and the reason that the odds weren't really long is
Speaker 1: the respect for Bafford but on Saturday we saw how
Speaker 1: much value a trainer can have. Like any sport, it's
Speaker 1: not just talent that wins. It's just like coaching, it's
Speaker 1: not just talent that wins. You got to have the
Speaker 1: right person there. And Bafford seems like a sociable guy,
Speaker 1: nothing like the public image that Belichick has, But greatness
Speaker 1: comes in different forms. In Bafford undoubtedly is among the greatest. Yes, McLevin,
Speaker 1: I saw the interview and Terika I think said Belichick
Speaker 1: was funny on Friday. That's a bit of a stretch.
Speaker 1: He was gushing over Badford, Betty. I don't know whatever,
Speaker 1: He's trying to be lighthearted. It feels kind of forced. Well,
Speaker 1: I think what is funny for Belichick is not really
Speaker 1: funny for anybody else. But but for Belichick, you go, boy,
Speaker 1: looks like he's having fun. Now, that doesn't look like
Speaker 1: if you were having that kind of fun, and a
Speaker 1: part of your wife would go, what's wrong? Nothing? Nothing,
Speaker 1: I'm having fun. That's always the feeling I get with Belichick.
Speaker 1: Hey looks like he's having fun. How could you tell?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought he might have smiled like
Speaker 1: he might have. Yeah, is Belichick married girlfriend. He's a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Do you think she ever says, like, on Friday afternoon,
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know we're going to
Speaker 1: see Sally and Mike. We're doing game night down the street.
Speaker 1: Does he have that kind of relationship. I can't imagine
Speaker 1: him going down to the neighbor's house for a game night. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. He's probably that guy who's going
Speaker 1: over for a barbecue. But he has to be at
Speaker 1: some point because the girlfriend and wife may say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're doing this, you know, sometimes they I
Speaker 1: would love to see that. Yeah, but I think if
Speaker 1: you're his girlfriend, then you understand who he is. It's
Speaker 1: not like, you know, hey, I'm gonna change this guy.
Speaker 1: He's almost seventy years of age. Yeah. See, he comes
Speaker 1: in with a six pack in some you know, pasta
Speaker 1: salad and the bowl of the little saran wrap on it.
Speaker 1: I just don't see that guy that being that guy.
Speaker 1: He's sitting out there talking mortgage rates on the backyard
Speaker 1: by the kittie pool. Somebody says, hey, you want a gummy? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be nice. I like to have a gummy. You
Speaker 1: go ahead right over there, the cooler up there. There's
Speaker 1: water in the blue one and some beers in the
Speaker 1: red one. Help yourself, but great to have you here?
Speaker 1: Is that a new GMC A kata? You leased it
Speaker 1: right because you can't buy The value just drops as
Speaker 1: soon as you drive it off a lot. You drive
Speaker 1: off the lot. It's terrible. Yes, Todd, well, what are
Speaker 1: you saying? We're not doing that? You gotta run that
Speaker 1: stuff fine before or he might go, Uh, We're on
Speaker 1: to Tom's house. See, I don't think yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go to Sally's. I'm on to Tom's house. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's a guy in the world who can get
Speaker 1: away with that, not participating those things once in a while,
Speaker 1: no matter how much money he didn't have all those
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, He's not getting away with this. She doesn't care.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to hang with that guy. No. Wait, no,
Speaker 1: the only reason you're hanging with Bill is because it's
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Yeah, I think you got Have you seen
Speaker 1: the woman he's with? He's all he's he needs nine
Speaker 1: super bowls to get a woman like that, and he's
Speaker 1: doing fantastic. He was on the cover of Nantucket magazine
Speaker 1: on a bed of a wagon eer with the Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, the Nantucket magazine. Oh my god, but she
Speaker 1: convinced him to do that. That's like the vogue of
Speaker 1: Tiny Island vacation Spot magazines. But you saw that being
Speaker 1: Nantucket magazine. It wasn't his idea to be on the
Speaker 1: back there holding a bowl of flowers and on the
Speaker 1: back of a wagon here. Well you can tell that
Speaker 1: he looks miserable doing that. But you know it's like, hey, Bill,
Speaker 1: we got a chance to be on the cover. On
Speaker 1: the cover of Nantucket magazine. Sounds great. So we'll be
Speaker 1: in like the jeep wagon ear and we'll make it
Speaker 1: seem like we're gonna have a picnic on the beach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds great if you remember too. Like his body language,
Speaker 1: she's like his arm is around her, but he's leaning away.
Speaker 1: He's like just in case he needs to edit her out.
Speaker 1: You know, at some point it put in somebody else there. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I've got the cover. She looks like she just want
Speaker 1: a pageant. She's so happy, she's so he looks like
Speaker 1: he just had a call overturned in the playoff game. No,
Speaker 1: it's like he just learned that Brady won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: With the Buccaneers. MS. Great, it looks like it's trying
Speaker 1: to be a smile, but the cheeks don't go up.
Speaker 1: Oh but but I do think everything in moderation when
Speaker 1: you when you go, okay, what is he like? And
Speaker 1: then is what is a real laugh or smile or
Speaker 1: he's funnier? So I just do the ratio of that,
Speaker 1: and I go, he may think he's having a hell
Speaker 1: of a time. We would be like, what's wrong with you? Yes, Ton,
Speaker 1: he's got that looked to him. He wants like everyone
Speaker 1: to know, especially as colleagues, like you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: she made me do that. I have no interest in
Speaker 1: being on the cover of this, so I'm not going
Speaker 1: to call in and a smile and look like I
Speaker 1: want to be there. Here was his stat that I
Speaker 1: found interesting. This is from Matt Pomeroy. He works for
Speaker 1: the Mothership No Packer quarterback has played seventeen seasons with
Speaker 1: the team. Bart Star sixteen seasons, Brett Farve sixteen seasons,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers sixteen seasons. Stat of the day, stat of
Speaker 1: the day, best stat of the day, stat of the day.
Speaker 1: Here comes that what stat of the day. I saw
Speaker 1: some grades that were handed out for the draft, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's based upon other than, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a team's strategy here because you don't know how
Speaker 1: these players are going to turn out. We don't for
Speaker 1: every that guy, can't you know? He said, can't miss prospect?
Speaker 1: They've missed. You know. The question is I heard somebody say,
Speaker 1: you know, Trevor Lawrence is a lock for the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame? Uh so is Andrew Luck. No, he's not
Speaker 1: a lock for the Hall of Fame. Did you guys
Speaker 1: hear Robert Griffith Junior the third his comments on kirkt Cousins.
Speaker 1: Let see that's funny. Did you hear Robert Griffith Junior
Speaker 1: the third? If you if if you haven't tuned into
Speaker 1: our show and you're just hearing me say that, and
Speaker 1: you're right. I did mispronounce the name Robert Griffith Junior
Speaker 1: the third because he's not a junior, but he's not
Speaker 1: Griffith either. That's mclovin and his pronunciation. Robert Griffith Junior
Speaker 1: the third. Yes, mclem I can recreate the tape exactly.
Speaker 1: Robert Griffith Junior the third. You nail that invitation. It's
Speaker 1: the only invitation I could do is me doing Robert
Speaker 1: Griffith Junior the third. How about when you told Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers to relax and you misspelled relax. Yeah, r e
Speaker 1: A LX hard you think on my feet? I know,
Speaker 1: and you were sitting down at that time. Do we
Speaker 1: have RG three's comments about Kirk D. Cousins? Did we
Speaker 1: get that? I asked Marvin to see if he could
Speaker 1: find that. It's brutal. Yeah, r R G three was
Speaker 1: taken down Kirk D. Cousins and they were drafted by Washington.
Speaker 1: They were drafted, you know, first round in the fourth
Speaker 1: round pick, and then you know RG three couldn't stay
Speaker 1: healthy and then KIRKT. Cousins came in and took his spot. Yeah, seton,
Speaker 1: I don't have those comments, but I do have this.
Speaker 1: Remember we relax ri a l Axes LX or whatever.
Speaker 1: That is still one of our best shirts. Mclovin says,
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Speaker 1: By the way, we made like five hundred of them,
Speaker 1: and four hundred twenty seven or in my parb did
Speaker 1: not sell. Remember we relax Ria l act mclovin's the
Speaker 1: smartest guy in the room, Robert, Yeah, game was that
Speaker 1: one as well. But see, you're so good at you're
Speaker 1: so smart at playing dumb like you do a great
Speaker 1: job doing that. Well, smart people aren't always there. You
Speaker 1: could be scatter brained. Yeah, are you scatterbrain like I am?
Speaker 1: But I'm not smart. You've had probably flobs on the
Speaker 1: air that you remember that. No, yeah, never, but I'm
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Speaker 1: not in the Windys in Orlando. Because the last time
Speaker 1: we spoke through I was stuck in Orlando in the bubble. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so now I'm back home in California working remotely. Stillman
Speaker 1: and I were still called games remotely. I'll be glad
Speaker 1: once hopefully playoffs start, there'll be a little bit more interaction.
Speaker 1: But we are still working remotely for those of you
Speaker 1: who follow the NBA, but we're still having a great time.
Speaker 1: Are you traveling during the playoffs? Do you know yet?
Speaker 1: We will be traveling to Atlanta to call games, hopefully
Speaker 1: by the conference finals, which this year Turner has the
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals. Depending on the matchup and the two teams,
Speaker 1: hopefully we will be on site. That still remains up
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Speaker 1: fans and being there in person, but it's always about
Speaker 1: safety first at Turner and WarnerMedia, so we're taking that approach.
Speaker 1: Reggie will be on the call with Kevin Harlan. That'll
Speaker 1: be Thursday night. Lakers and the Clippers. Let me start
Speaker 1: with the Lakers here. If you were a betting man,
Speaker 1: the odds of the Lakers defending their title going back
Speaker 1: to the finals is what to me It's all about health,
Speaker 1: and if Lebron and a d are healthy, the Lakers
Speaker 1: are always the team to be. Now, I know Lebron
Speaker 1: has been back two games and they're owing two since
Speaker 1: he has returned, and they just have not looked well.
Speaker 1: And now I'm hearing reports out with Lebron saying, whoever
Speaker 1: came up with this playoff format? Out of five? Where
Speaker 1: was all this talk a month ago, two months ago,
Speaker 1: when the Lakers when Boston, when Dallas, they were securely
Speaker 1: one of the top six teams. Now they're on the outside,
Speaker 1: possibly looking in. I know Dallas and the Lakers are
Speaker 1: like five and six, with Portland being seven. All three
Speaker 1: of those teams are tied. It's a little bit of
Speaker 1: crying because the whole point of the play in was
Speaker 1: too make sure regular season games mattered. So take care
Speaker 1: of your business during the regular season finished one through six,
Speaker 1: so you can rest your door, rest that week and
Speaker 1: let those other teams battle it out. Lebron goes down, eight,
Speaker 1: E goes down, and now they're kind of on a
Speaker 1: nose died looking at seven through ten. So I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear all the crying. If you would have
Speaker 1: took care of business. Now. I know injuries are a
Speaker 1: part of it, but I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the playing one through six. You rest,
Speaker 1: Here is Lebron James talking about the playing games, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if he knows that he's taking a
Speaker 1: shot at the commissioner. Well, it doesn't matter. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day. If I'm not you know, one
Speaker 1: hundred percent close to one hundred percent, I'm out of
Speaker 1: you know where we're laying, you know, So you know
Speaker 1: that's my mindset. And you know, if this happens too,
Speaker 1: we end up at six or fifth or whatever the
Speaker 1: case may be, or if we end up in a
Speaker 1: you know, the playoff, whatever that thing is. Whoever came
Speaker 1: up with that need to be fired. Um, But whatever, Lebron,
Speaker 1: I get a guess the commissioner would like to talk
Speaker 1: to you. He's the one that came up with the idea, dude.
Speaker 1: Or he's right because I agree with him if he finishes.
Speaker 1: If the Lakers finished seven, eight, nine or ten odds
Speaker 1: on with Lebron, I ad they're gonna win their games.
Speaker 1: Who I feel sorry for? If I'm Phoenix or Utah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see Lebron in ad possibly in
Speaker 1: the first round. That's who should be upset about this
Speaker 1: if they happen to fall seven through two. And Anthony Davis,
Speaker 1: since he came back this is six games, has really
Speaker 1: not had an impact, shooting under forty percent average in
Speaker 1: sixteen points. Lakers have been ounce scored by fifty six
Speaker 1: points when he's on the court, the worst plus minus
Speaker 1: on the team, almost double of the second worst. There,
Speaker 1: it's not just Lebron, it's a D. And as we
Speaker 1: talked about last year, I said, as great as Lebron is,
Speaker 1: they're not winning a title without a D. And I
Speaker 1: certainly feel that way. But if you're going to handicap
Speaker 1: the West because we do this, we'll look at Hey,
Speaker 1: they were a great regular season. Two. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody's bought into the Utah Jazz nationally, you know, wonderful year. Denver.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's bought into them. Phoenix, I
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody's bought into them. Where you go.
Speaker 1: You know what if they meet with the Lakers, no
Speaker 1: beat them? Now? Out of those three teams, who has
Speaker 1: the best if you want to throw the Clippers in
Speaker 1: there too, who has the best chance of going to
Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals or playing in the Championship. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, and again I will stress health,
Speaker 1: health is of the utmost important. Everybody's healthy, Lakers, everyone
Speaker 1: will owe to me. It will always come down to
Speaker 1: the Lakers and Clippers, Okay, because they've got bona fide
Speaker 1: superstars on both sides. They've got lockdown defense. Again, the Lakers,
Speaker 1: even though A D and Lebron missed so much time,
Speaker 1: they were still a top four defensive team even without
Speaker 1: those two superstars. At the end of the day, Kawhi,
Speaker 1: Paul George ad Lebron, they're the two best teams because
Speaker 1: I've seen their body of work in the playoffs sometimes
Speaker 1: with the Clippers for Kawhi in San Antonio in Toronto.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Lips and the Lakers at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, and everyone is healthy healthy,
Speaker 1: But again that hasn't been the case this year. So
Speaker 1: the three teams you mentioned, Phoenix, Utah and Denver, they
Speaker 1: somewhat scare me because I think Denver is playing much better.
Speaker 1: People are like, well, they're going to be without Jamal
Speaker 1: Murray because of the injury. I think they're better defensively
Speaker 1: now and Yoki's my opinion the MVP this year. So
Speaker 1: Denver is a scary team and will be a scary
Speaker 1: out and on top of that will have home court advantage.
Speaker 1: You've got to go there. All we have been probably
Speaker 1: into the conference finals because one of those two spots
Speaker 1: will probably be Phoenix or Utah that will have home
Speaker 1: court advantage throughout the Western Conference. I was wondering, and
Speaker 1: I try not to delve into the MVP topic normally
Speaker 1: because I think, you know a lot of hosts shows
Speaker 1: are trolling you because it's Lebron. If Lebron's involved in
Speaker 1: the conversation, then this is a big deal. Joker winning
Speaker 1: the MVP. Nobody cares nationally about this. Even if it's
Speaker 1: Joe ellenb nobody cares nationally. If Lebron and James hard
Speaker 1: You're in it, then you can at least have an
Speaker 1: arguing point. Chris Paul to me, in true value to
Speaker 1: a team, not the best player, but true value to
Speaker 1: a team, I can't dismiss that. A lot of times
Speaker 1: we look at the stats that you throw in there
Speaker 1: and you go, well, he's the MVP. I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at value, and I can't I can't argue Chris Paul
Speaker 1: being a legitimate MVP candidate. Why is he not considered,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the top five. And certainly, let's
Speaker 1: put in I Phoenix finishes and ends up the number
Speaker 1: one seed in the West, because no one saw that
Speaker 1: saw this coming. And let's remember now what Phoenix did
Speaker 1: in Bubble Life in Orlando, going eight and zero and
Speaker 1: pushing those teams and narrowly missing out on making the
Speaker 1: playoffs in Orlando. So what has Montie Williams done. He
Speaker 1: has gone out and gotten the best leader arguably in
Speaker 1: the game in Chris Paul, and they have bo in
Speaker 1: to everything that he has said. Now, again, it remains
Speaker 1: to be seen what's going to happen in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: But I absolutely agree with you that Chris Paul needs
Speaker 1: to be getting more love for the MVP talk. Now,
Speaker 1: he's not the best player on that team. The closer
Speaker 1: and the best player on the team is Devin Booker,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what's kind of going to hurt
Speaker 1: him because they will take votes away from one another.
Speaker 1: But in terms of value, the word you use in
Speaker 1: a team, buying in to a system and to a
Speaker 1: player and believing. Now they are a young team for
Speaker 1: a team to believe, and that's all spearheaded by the
Speaker 1: head of the Snake and Chris Paul. He's Reggie Miller,
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer back with us and he's on
Speaker 1: the call. Thursday night, it's Lakers Clippers at ten eastern
Speaker 1: on TNT. And so when you're doing the games at home,
Speaker 1: the kiddies are in bed by then, so nobody's like
Speaker 1: walking in when you're doing the game and interrupting you
Speaker 1: at home. Kevin calls the game from his basement in
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Yeah, I'm fortunate enough to be able to
Speaker 1: go to a studio because they asked me, Hey, do
Speaker 1: you want to call the games from home? He gave
Speaker 1: me that option. I'm like, hey, to the nil, am
Speaker 1: I doing that because I would be changing a diaper
Speaker 1: as well as blowing noses from two little kids. There's
Speaker 1: no way I can functionally call a two and a
Speaker 1: half three hour game with three kids. There's just no way.
Speaker 1: So I'm fortunate enough to go to a studio and
Speaker 1: call the game and sync up with my partner, Kevin Harley.
Speaker 1: Are you at your house right now? I'm at my
Speaker 1: house now. There's nothing on the walls. Rege, I'm at
Speaker 1: my rented house. Oh okay, I'm just gonna say, man,
Speaker 1: there's nothing here. There's nothing. This is the office of
Speaker 1: the origed house. There's a trash man, there's a machine.
Speaker 1: There's Michael Jackon's hat. That's that's the possession in here.
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's Wait, bring a gene hat. But that's it. Wait,
Speaker 1: go go get that. That is it? Bring that over here.
Speaker 1: So this is the this is the Billy Jean had Oh,
Speaker 1: this is the Billy Jay hat. Oh, take it off.
Speaker 1: Reggs got the Michael Jackson hat under signed and signed.
Speaker 1: What did that cost you? It was a retirement gift
Speaker 1: from the base, a retirement gift from the pacers. How
Speaker 1: cool is it? You know? So when you watch the
Speaker 1: video and he scold it out, yeah, one of the Fedoras. Right,
Speaker 1: come on, you can't go. This is the number one
Speaker 1: prod of the Jordan jersey, the Bird jersey, the Magic jersey,
Speaker 1: all them signed by the great basketball gods, the Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: I'm taking this as my most prized possession ever in
Speaker 1: my health. Wait, you got a Jordan signed jersey? I
Speaker 1: did I do? Okay, because you never got along with him. No,
Speaker 1: who asked for it? Oh you think I asked for that? Hey?
Speaker 1: To then, but but you had to ask somebody to
Speaker 1: do it. Yes, Okay. One of the people that worked
Speaker 1: for the Pacers obviously wanted one, and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: i'll get too if you can, like, you know, put
Speaker 1: a word in. I'm like, I'm not putting a word in.
Speaker 1: But so I sent a ball boy down to the
Speaker 1: Bulls locker room and says, hey, Red's just you know,
Speaker 1: there's a friend that worked for the Pacers would love
Speaker 1: you're autographing you know, him and a friend you know,
Speaker 1: if you will sign these two? I was the friend wanted.
Speaker 1: Did Michael want one of your jerseys? Okay for the
Speaker 1: third time to then, I am Jennie wanting my jersey. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think Jordan has any jerseys on No, I
Speaker 1: don't think right now just Bird has any. And I
Speaker 1: don't think maybe Magic does, Magic is a hoop or
Speaker 1: maybe magic does, but I don't think Bird or or
Speaker 1: Eric Jordan has any. Are you sold on the Knicks?
Speaker 1: Like this is a is this a legitimate feel good story?
Speaker 1: But the Knicks I'm absolutely sold. I'm sold that they
Speaker 1: can win a first round playoff matchup. I think they
Speaker 1: can get to the conference Semis play great defense, they
Speaker 1: have a bonafid coach and coach Thibodeaux Julius Randall most improved,
Speaker 1: no question, hands down, is gonna probably win at this year.
Speaker 1: And I think RJ. Barrett is starting to understand the game.
Speaker 1: They play again. They're long, they're athletic. It's a great
Speaker 1: feel good story. It's great to have the number one
Speaker 1: media market New York. Have two good teams to have
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and New York. I think that's great for the league. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think the Eastern Conference is I think it's
Speaker 1: wide open. I know everyone wants to lean towards Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: I hope those guys they get to the finish line.
Speaker 1: You know, I know what, Katie had a great game
Speaker 1: last night. Kyrie has been playing great. We're still waiting
Speaker 1: for Harden to come back. He had a little bit
Speaker 1: of a setback with the hamstring injury. The team to
Speaker 1: watch in the East. I'm telling everyone this, they were
Speaker 1: the most disappointing team the last two years because they
Speaker 1: have the best record. Let me see if I can
Speaker 1: get oh, I just blew it. Yeah, Okay, Milwaukee I
Speaker 1: think they were never used to being the hunter, right,
Speaker 1: they were always being I think now that they're going
Speaker 1: to go out and be the hunter instead of the hunted.
Speaker 1: I think Milwaukee's in the best place because no one's
Speaker 1: talking about them. They're talking about Philly, they're talking about Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: and they're talking about what's wrong with Boston. No one's
Speaker 1: talking about Milwaukee and what did your honest do last
Speaker 1: night versus Brooklyn? And Katie puts up forty nine in
Speaker 1: his return Milwaukee. This could be the year. Explain to
Speaker 1: me why the Pelicans are so bad. I don't know.
Speaker 1: They played less defense than I do reg And you
Speaker 1: know what, it's so wild because their head coach is
Speaker 1: all about defense. That's why they brought him in, right, Yes, yes, look,
Speaker 1: it's this is very unique and weird year. It really is.
Speaker 1: There's no practice time. It's all about game of a
Speaker 1: game every other day. And it stands first year. I'm
Speaker 1: going to give them a little bit of a long lead.
Speaker 1: Ship they play like this next season, then it's something.
Speaker 1: It's an area of concern, but it's just been a
Speaker 1: weird year. Theodore and Zion, you know he is real.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm wondering, like, what does he add to
Speaker 1: his game, because all the great players add something. It
Speaker 1: feels like almost on a yearly basis seventy five percent.
Speaker 1: And that's probably I'm probably exaggerating, Okay, I will say
Speaker 1: sixty eight percent of his shots and field goals come
Speaker 1: from in the paint, Right, you can't stop him. So
Speaker 1: if you can't stop him out of the paint, if
Speaker 1: he got a fifteen to eighteen foot face up jump
Speaker 1: shot consistently, how are you going to guard him? Saying
Speaker 1: like we say this about Jana's too, like, how if
Speaker 1: he ever got that consistently, how would you guard him?
Speaker 1: Because both have quick first steps, both can jump over you,
Speaker 1: both can handle the basketball, and both are smart enough
Speaker 1: to know when they're doubled and triple team to find
Speaker 1: the open player. He just needs a face up jump shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but why is it one of the great leapers in
Speaker 1: the game doesn't have a jump shot, Like, he doesn't
Speaker 1: jump on his jump shot. Well, if it ain't broke,
Speaker 1: don't fix it. I look, if they can't stop how
Speaker 1: he's scoring, now keep going to it where where it
Speaker 1: will come out and where his flaws will be exposed.
Speaker 1: As if they ever made the playoffs, because when you
Speaker 1: make the playoffs and you get into a series, teams
Speaker 1: take away your three best moves, three best plays, what
Speaker 1: you do the best, and that's when we would see
Speaker 1: if Zion is able to adapt to playoff basketball. If
Speaker 1: you lose one of the three on Brooklyn for an
Speaker 1: extended amount of time in the playoffs, who could they
Speaker 1: afford to lose for an extended period of time. Probably
Speaker 1: probably James Harden because we're kind of seeing that now.
Speaker 1: I think they can't afford to lose KD for an
Speaker 1: extended period of time because he is arguably the best player,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, in the league, and he's a closer.
Speaker 1: Kyrie would be second because of his ball handling and
Speaker 1: shot making ability. And I think when James Harden does
Speaker 1: eventually return, he is going to take on the de
Speaker 1: facto point guard. He's going to defer a lot and
Speaker 1: score when he needs to. But I think he'll be
Speaker 1: the fortified true point guard on this team once he
Speaker 1: does return. But to me, James Harden would be the
Speaker 1: third person if you had to lose them for extended
Speaker 1: period of time. I think the next will still be
Speaker 1: successful with Katie and Kyrie. It's great to see you.
Speaker 1: Great to have you back, and uh, Regg will be
Speaker 1: with us throughout the playoffs. There Lakers Clippers at ten
Speaker 1: eastern on Thursday night. You got your Michael Jack. Do
Speaker 1: you know the whole dance routine? Oh? I know, but
Speaker 1: I wait, come home, shut them. Don't pull a hamstring there.
Speaker 1: Oh he's fifty five year old. Leg I know, Oh,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Uh. Great to have you back.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. You love, Reggie Alawishus
Speaker 1: Miller Junior the third We're back after this, we haven't
Speaker 1: against the grain. Buy mclove and last call for phone
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Speaker 1: Let's get your Chris in Los Angeles. Chris spin on
Speaker 1: hold for a while, Chris, Thanks for hanging in there.
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Thanks for taking my cold Dpe Dennett.
Speaker 1: Good to hear you guys on a Monday. So best
Speaker 1: and worst of the weekend. Lots of stuff coming out
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame. Obviously in booking draft of the Saints.
Speaker 1: The lacrosse team beaten Share two twenty two, Day eight,
Speaker 1: and the Blue and Goal game was his past weekend.
Speaker 1: So Drew Drew prime at quarterback and pressed so lots
Speaker 1: of the good things that Notre Dame. My worst was
Speaker 1: LAFC looking a little flat over the weekend, making a
Speaker 1: time Houston and hopefully we're rebound this weekend when LAFC
Speaker 1: takes on a galaxy for the lady. Thank you, and
Speaker 1: I'll get a little niche there, Chris really really narrow
Speaker 1: there with your best and worser. Howson's men's volleyball upset
Speaker 1: Delaware Dame? Uh? Yeah, see do you were? What? Was
Speaker 1: I a little rough on Chris there with his best
Speaker 1: worst of the weekend? Hey, a little bit. I don't
Speaker 1: know that MLS is that niche? Well? The Blue and
Speaker 1: Gold game at Notre Dame, Yeah, okay, Notre Dame is
Speaker 1: a big program like Notre Dame beat Syracuse and yeah, lacrosse,
Speaker 1: I mean Dysfeld Okay, Well Nitchie, Doug Nichi h Ray Nitchie. Uh.
Speaker 1: Seventy five percent of Zion Williamson's points have been in
Speaker 1: the paint this season. How about that? Ninety five percent
Speaker 1: of his field goal attempts have been in the paint
Speaker 1: this season. Good for him, You're able to do that,
Speaker 1: by the way. Robert Griffith Junior, the third was I
Speaker 1: guess he was a draft analyst. I'm I'm assuming because
Speaker 1: this is uh was his interview? I think it sort
Speaker 1: of he was on like like some sort of digital interview,
Speaker 1: sort of draft analysis, like oh yeah, okay, he had
Speaker 1: this to say about Kirk Cousins. The Vikings took Kellen
Speaker 1: Mond and RG three very high on Kellen Mound from
Speaker 1: Texas A and M not that high on Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: I would tell you this, with a great determination and
Speaker 1: great coaching, I think this is a guy that could
Speaker 1: be a real riser over the course of his career.
Speaker 1: And as you see, you know, Cousins has been collecting
Speaker 1: checks there in Minnesota for a long time, taking them
Speaker 1: to eight and eight and nine and seven seasons. If
Speaker 1: if he has a bad start to the year like
Speaker 1: he did last year, I could see the fans and
Speaker 1: maybe the organization leaning towards the mind if he comes
Speaker 1: in and and presses yeah, could be yeah, Pully, that
Speaker 1: guy's got a future ahead of him. Yeah. I thought
Speaker 1: r G three well, as long as he's critiquing players
Speaker 1: that he doesn't like, yeah, or that he lost his
Speaker 1: job too because he couldn't stay healthy, maybe RG three
Speaker 1: should have given the same analysis to his career that
Speaker 1: would have helped him stay healthier. Maybe if he assessed
Speaker 1: it a little bit more of what he should and
Speaker 1: shouldn't do on the football field, then maybe he'd still
Speaker 1: be playing. Yeah, I'd love to see kirk Cousins respond
Speaker 1: and say something like, you know, I'm not collecting checks.
Speaker 1: I have direct a positive because it's more efficient way
Speaker 1: to and your finances. Robert Boom is kirk Cousins the
Speaker 1: Joe Johnson of the NFL, like Joe Johnson minivan owner.
Speaker 1: Still I think he's trying to come back and play
Speaker 1: Joe Johnson, Joseph Joe Joe. Yeah. Wait, like, what's your nickname?
Speaker 1: They call me joe Oh, okay, never would have gotten
Speaker 1: that nickname. All friends from the neighborhood call me joey.
Speaker 1: If you really know me, then you call me j
Speaker 1: j Yes. See. One time I went to my son's
Speaker 1: parent teacher conference thing and there was a little like
Speaker 1: one of the kids in his class. There must have
Speaker 1: been like at the time, seven or eight years old
Speaker 1: or something, and the little boys said, Hi, I'm alex
Speaker 1: but you can call me Alexander. Okay, it's funny, like
Speaker 1: you got a little backwards kid, But all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks Alexander. Ryan and Honolulu joints us
Speaker 1: with some mock headlines. Then I gotta get to against
Speaker 1: the grave. All right, give me a couple of mock headlines.
Speaker 1: Then I gotta get to mclovins again into the Green.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. We've got NFL draft market lines.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks of the first round table forty nine is like
Speaker 1: Trey Lance a lot laugh, all right, give me one,
Speaker 1: give me one more, No, Jordan Love lost, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: Aaron Jibs, Packers, Roger Ring big in England. That'd be
Speaker 1: big in England. Yeah, a Rodger Ring, Thank you, Ryan,
Speaker 1: thank you? All right? The accent always helps mclovin against
Speaker 1: the Green. It's not even a whole segment. But I
Speaker 1: want to set up some draft bets for next year
Speaker 1: since we had so much fun. All Right, I got
Speaker 1: two first round quarterbacks. If they're not first rounders, they're
Speaker 1: outside the norm who I will take pies for it.
Speaker 1: And if they are first rounders, I get to assign
Speaker 1: pies other day nets. How about we saved this for tomorrow. Yes,
Speaker 1: because I think this is a little bit bigger, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to give you enough time. Let it breathe
Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe we have a guest involved in this.
Speaker 1: Oh you know who's really good. Matt Miller already is
Speaker 1: putting out his look ahead in my draft, so he
Speaker 1: could evaluate it pretty well. The ESPN Draft dais all right,
Speaker 1: So twenty twenty two first round draft projections. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's already two days out. I can't believe that
Speaker 1: you haven't broken all the thing now yet. That's an eternity. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see, let's go around the room. What we learned
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Speaker 1: to Michael Jackson moves Hey see O'Connor. Yeah, he's got
Speaker 1: a Michael Jackson hat too. He autographed Pauli Would you
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Speaker 1: putting bow on it there. Yeah, and I love whang
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