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Speaker 1: to college with had more than him. Like he couldn't.

433
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: It couldn't register with him that it's because they did

434
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: more like that. I couldn't make those two things connect.

435
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: And I've struggled really really hard to figure out how

436
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: to make that simple thing connect in people's minds. What

437
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: are the million different ways that you can say this

438
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: to say, you know, well, they have all this stuff

439
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: that a regular student doesn't have. A regular student doesn't

440
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: net millions for the university. It's just it's it's very

441
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: very simple. I mean, would you get mad you know

442
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: the whole Like McCauley Colkin had like seven brothers and

443
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: sisters and and a few of them got on TV,

444
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: but he was doing home alone and Richie rich Michael

445
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: Jackson music videos. Um, his brothers and sisters could certainly

446
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: get mad if he had the coolest stuff in his

447
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: bedroom at their house. Right, they could. But at some

448
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: point you have to face down the truth that like,

449
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: but who paid for those things? Yeah, like we get it,

450
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: but you know m colleague did go to work every day. Yeah,

451
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: and then so that's that's just I want people to see, like, yeah,

452
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: it might look like those students who who aren't there

453
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: for school for the most part, and you're there for

454
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: school and you're taking on debt and they're not, and

455
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: you understand what that debt means to you and your lifestyle,

456
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: um from here on out, and you're taking harder classes.

457
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: You're both considered students, um when when you're doing a

458
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: lot more student oriented things than than maybe they are.

459
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: And you can look at that situation and say, um,

460
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: you know they they don't, uh, they're already good, Like

461
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: they're already good. They're not wondering where their next meal

462
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: is coming from. UM, for the most part, like why

463
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: should they get more? And I understand that perspective in

464
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: a vacuum. I don't understand that perspective when everything is

465
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: laid out on the table of of like, hey, that's

466
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: all they're allowed to have, but it's everything that their

467
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: effort has paid for. It would it would also be

468
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: nice if that level of energy was put towards the

469
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: coaches and they're inflated salaries, and I just don't ever

470
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: see that. And that's the thing that gets really confusing

471
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: for me, is it's okay for an offensive coordinator to

472
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: pull in one point two million, but it's not okay

473
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: for your you know, running back to um tweet out

474
00:29:52,160 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: a Patreon for his rap album right right, that's you

475
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: hit the nail right on the head with that one. UM. Okay.

476
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: So one of the issues were coming back obviously has

477
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: been testing, testing, testing, testing, myocarditis and contact tracing. Those

478
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: are the three things that have stopped the Big ten,

479
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: stopped the Pack twelve, stop the states out here on

480
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: the West coast, and now with the pac twelves new

481
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: testing partners, which actually really started in in Arizona. UM.

482
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: So there was the regular tests that took forty eight hours,

483
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: the the standard you know testing procedures where they spent

484
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: them up a few times. All of that when in

485
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: the machines. So now there's this antigen antigen test that

486
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 1: takes fifteen minutes. Started in Arizona. They started with twenty

487
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: five tests, and they did a thousand, and they did

488
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: ten thousand, and they did twenty five thousand tests and

489
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: they're getting in between ninety six percent the same results

490
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: as the old school for the eight hour tests, which

491
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: means that if you take UM tests on back to

492
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: back days that you're gonna be looking at UM like accuracy.

493
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: So okay, so um that puts the Pack twelve in

494
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: a position to potentially come back and financially you're looking

495
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: at for testing for football I think alone, they were

496
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: talking about like three fifty thou dollars in testing and

497
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: the testing is uh, the device that you use is

498
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: is portable, that it's a reasonable situation that test costs

499
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: instead of being like thirty five bucks, are like twenty

500
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: one bucks apiece. So this is a big deal. And

501
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: now this may bring bring the Pack twelve back and

502
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, the Big Well is adopting this same testing

503
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: procedure even though they haven't fully rolled it rolled it

504
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: out yet. So, Ralph, where do you see things headed?

505
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: I was excited when I first, you know, I was

506
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: tuned into the press conference with Larry Scott and the

507
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: founder of QUAIDL I think the company's called, and then

508
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: they had a couple of doctors on there too, and um,

509
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: I was pretty psyched until Bruce Feldman asked the question

510
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: of like, hey, do you have this relationship with other teams?

511
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: And the founder of quite L was like, yeah, you know,

512
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't have disclosure agreements from them too to be

513
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: able to talk about our our partnership, but yes. And

514
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: so I went into this thinking that the Pact twelve

515
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: got ahold of something that was super atitative and unique

516
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: to unique to us. And then I realized, like, oh no,

517
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: this is just another Larry Scott press conference that could

518
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: have been a press release, Like this is completely unnecessary.

519
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: They're already working with a bunch of other teams. Why

520
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: are we out here make a big deal out of

521
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: doing the things that we're supposed to do. Somebody asked

522
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: me Um, this dude named Aaron Torres that I do

523
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: a show with sometimes on Fox Sports Radio. He said,

524
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: why does every single time to PAC twelve make a

525
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: press released, they act like it's the greatest thing in

526
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: the whole world, he said. He said, everything is like,

527
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the one, this is the

528
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: game changer, this is the most amazing thing in the

529
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: whole world. And then you find out it's pretty regular. Yeah,

530
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: and then I hate that I got tricked, and I did.

531
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: I did, like until Bruce Feldman asked that question. I

532
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: was like, whoa this is? This is gonna be massive,

533
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: like this is this is gonna be really great. And

534
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: then it's like, come to find out, the Pact twelve

535
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: is just partnering as a as a conference with a

536
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: company that a bunch of other schools had already partnered

537
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: with individually, including schools within the PAC twelve, And so

538
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: you know that that that was a little bit frustrating

539
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: to me. And then, um, well I think it was

540
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: Nicole Aurobach asked about the cost and they said that

541
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: that was confidential, and I don't know if that didn't

542
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: sit right with me because he did say that the

543
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: schools were going to absorb the cost of the tests,

544
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: and then with the University of Utah just furloughing everybody

545
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: and shutting everything down. I remember calling you and being like,

546
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: are they doing that to avoid not having to purchase

547
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of quite ill tests? Like that? That was

548
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: the first thing that came into my mind. I was like,

549
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: did they just save themselves a bunch of money? And

550
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: so um loved loved the initial idea of a press

551
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: conference saying like, hey, we're making progress. Did not love

552
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: having a press conference to not be able to say

553
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: anything definitive or give the type of transparency that should

554
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: probably be afforded to taxpayer funded institutions. And did also

555
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: also was not a huge fan of finding out that

556
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: there wasn't really anything unique about this sort of pomp

557
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: and circumstance was a little bit um unnecessary. But the

558
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: the the idea that this is out there and can

559
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: be used to potentially, you know, not only save the

560
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: football season, but really helped track for public health, you know,

561
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: the spread and origins of outbreaks and everything like that.

562
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 1: You know that that part of it is is really

563
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: exciting because the more we understand about this disease and

564
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: who it affects and who are susceptible and and and

565
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: what long term side effects you know, to look out for.

566
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: The more that we know, the better off we're gonna be.

567
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: And so just the the science behind everything that's going

568
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: on excites me. Um the way the Pack twelve used

569
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: it to give itself a pad on the back, Um

570
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: did not. Did not. Yeah, yeah, it was bad, dude.

571
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: And and then when he asked to be on Dan

572
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 1: Patrick two, and he's made his rounds on a couple

573
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: of other shows, it was like, you asked to be

574
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: on what I thought you were going to say something?

575
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,479
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't come on and give us any

576
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: groundbreaking news like you don't see Greg Sanky Uh calling commissioner,

577
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: a big of the SEC calling in to give some

578
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: like some non news news. I mean like like it

579
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: could be done in a tweet just as easily as

580
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: anything else and it would not create false hope with

581
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: uh with people. But I remember asking him like should

582
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: I watch this? And You're like, no, we have a

583
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: Pack twelve podcast and it would probably behoove me to

584
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: like follow along what our conference commissioners doing within the

585
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: national media. And I was like, Hey, is this a thing?

586
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: Because I got tricked yesterday and you're like, it's not

587
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: And I did not watch it because I mean, at

588
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: this point, it's just you know, he he rarely has

589
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: anything to say anything new. He's not the type of

590
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: person his way into a new contract. He is. He

591
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: is doing everything possible to position himself to get a

592
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: new contract that so he can screw up another television deal.

593
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 1: He is the Ikea furniture of conference commissioners. You gotta

594
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: put it together yourself. Yeah, you gotta put it together yourself.

595
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: So it's your your time, your effort, your labor, and

596
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's mostly just particle

597
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: board and so you know that. And that's really like

598
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, he's gonna be on Dan Patrick, awesome, George,

599
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: should I watch this? And You're like no, So, I

600
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: mean that's kind of where we're Yeah, that way, it's

601
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: at least that said has the date of kickoff. That's

602
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: the next time that I'll give him my full attention. Facts, um,

603
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: somebody who a team that? Okay? There there were some

604
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: sad news this past weekend. Obviously the Pack twelve what

605
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: was not playing but a game that I was looking

606
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: forward to was Oregon versus Ohio State. Were you looking

607
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: forward to that game? You you think it was in Eugene.

608
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: I had made sure I didn't have to work, dude.

609
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: I had planned this out. I was taking my whole family,

610
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: like everything. Dude, this was the game. I've been looking

611
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: forward to this game for years. Right and but but

612
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: but on the side, No, as we've seen with scheduling,

613
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: we don't need to schedule games twenty years in in

614
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: in advance. It can be done in a week obviously. Um,

615
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: but so we can do it a year in advance.

616
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: But that's but I digress. Um. The it was sad

617
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: because even if the Pack twelve were playing, that game

618
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: would have been canceled anyway. So I want to give

619
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: a shout out to the people in northern California, the

620
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: people in Oregon who are suffering from the fires. I

621
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: know you guys are really going through it. You know,

622
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the football game, but like the Orange skies,

623
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: the hazardous air, the breathing conditions, Pray that everybody's house,

624
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: home and families are are doing a Okay. I got

625
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: a groomsman of mine who is a wildland firefighter. Um

626
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: smoke jumper, and he had spent most of the year

627
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: in Arizona and up until a couple of weeks ago,

628
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: and I reached out to him and asked him, you know,

629
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: how how he's doing because he was out here fighting

630
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: fires in a hundred and twenty degree weather, you know,

631
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: sleeping outside, and and uh he was like, well, um

632
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: on on the positive, you know, fire season, Uh, it

633
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: looks like it's it could be coming to a close soon.

634
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: And Arizona made sure all my bills are paid for

635
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. And I was like, all right, man,

636
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: be safe and uh. And you know, thinking that, thinking that,

637
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of going to be the

638
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: end of the season for him, and he's been he's

639
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: been out in California for for three weeks now and

640
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: and we'll be there for the foreseeable future. And so,

641
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully they can get some of this stuff

642
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: contained and we can maybe start to take a little

643
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: bit more of an honest look at why the entire

644
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: West Coast is is a giant burning hellscape, because it's

645
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: very possible that we might have something to do with it.

646
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: So hopefully, um yeah, hopefully people are safe. I don't know,

647
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: you still got connections in Oregon. George, I heard you

648
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: know a bunch of people are having to evacuate. You

649
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: have any people up there that had to take off? Yeah? Yeah,

650
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: I know a bunch of people that that that did.

651
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: And unfortunately they their families either live in northern California

652
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: or in Oregon or in Washington. So there's nowhere to go,

653
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So like their evacuation only

654
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: lead them to another place that needed that may ultimately

655
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: need to be evacuated. I think at the end of

656
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: the day, everyone's just gonna have to follow Joe Rogan

657
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: to Texas. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you can't burn everything up

658
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: there because of the because of the topography. But um,

659
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, And the whole point of that was just

660
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: that the Ohio State Oregon game wasn't happening this weekend regardless,

661
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: like so because of the smoke quality, because of the

662
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: air quality and all of that, and that made me

663
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: kind of sad. And then also just would you have

664
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: been a post would you have been opposed to them

665
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: moving it to Columbus No, No, no, I don't think so.

666
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: I mean, because like the game would have had to

667
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: be played, uh see, but I don't know if they

668
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: would have done it, because it puts the team at

669
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: such a unique disadvantage because their their hearts and minds

670
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: are back at at home. They're worried about their people,

671
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: their dogs, their loved one, you know what I mean.

672
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: Like it just puts you at a and then the

673
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: coaches homes, their their their families, administrators, all the people

674
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: that have to go to the games. I think that that,

675
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,959
Speaker 1: you know, playing it would have been very difficult even

676
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: if the season we're going on. I absolutely love discussing

677
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: twice canceled hypothetical football games with you, Um, but well,

678
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: even if the even if the season was still well,

679
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: I actually, well, if the season does go on in

680
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, in the Pac twelve, do mary schedules.

681
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: I was hoping that that could come to a quicker

682
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: agreement than not, because Oregon was gonna have one of

683
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: the best secondaries in the country and now they're gonna

684
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: be very young because they have Diamador Lenore starting corner,

685
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: they've had um Thomas Graham starting corner, and Pine Seul

686
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: all world one of the best best packed twelve linemen

687
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: in a long time, I'll leave to the NFL draft.

688
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: So they bounced too early. M okay, So here is

689
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: Paul absolutely not. If he were my son, he'd be

690
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: making this exact same decision. We'll wrap you up in

691
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: bubble wrap and then we're gonna go. But see, I

692
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: think you see I tweeted from the Pack twelve Apostles account,

693
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: and I didn't check the the ultimate results of the poll,

694
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: but I think it was you know, where would you

695
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: take him? And I think it was first overall? Uh,

696
00:43:54,520 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: behind only Clemson's quarterback three through five or six through ten.

697
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: Where do you fall on that? Um? I mean I

698
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: think that the only player that you take above him

699
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: is well, if it depends on who gets that draftic

700
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like if you're a team

701
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: that like if your quarterback, like if if TWA got

702
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: hurt or something, or and Miami didn't win a game

703
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: and they end up with the number number one draft pick,

704
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm not taking Trevor Lawrence like I'm gonna take put

705
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,479
Speaker 1: A Seal. But you don't think Steve Khan maybe set

706
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: the trend for that by taking Kyler Murray right after

707
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. Uh, well, they hired a new head coach.

708
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah, I think the situation was was different,

709
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean like that, Um that the

710
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: circumstance played big into it, and they were trying to

711
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: convince Kyler Murray to not play baseball too. Yeah, so

712
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: he had to, you know, he kind had to be

713
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: the number one pick for him to, you know, just

714
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: be like, all right, dude, I'm done with with with

715
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: baseball because he realized that he could make more from

716
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: being a top flight quarterback than you can playing baseball

717
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: without being one of the most elite players in the

718
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: whole league. Um, okay, so they So you have Oregon

719
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: players leaving and plus Walker little from from Stanford. There

720
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: are a few like how many other packtroll players do

721
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna opt out of the season, Because

722
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: what I told a couple of them when I talked

723
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: to him was I said, here's the thing that you

724
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: have to pay attention to. Is the first thing is

725
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,959
Speaker 1: people always over well typically they overvalue how they see

726
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: themselves versus how the NFL sees them. That's the first thing.

727
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: I mean, prime, prime example to tight end at Washington

728
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: and Trey Adams a lot what what what was the

729
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: named Hunter and the h the tackle Tray Adams who

730
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: neither of them got drafted coming out as junior. So

731
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: that's first thing. I know there were some injuries potentially

732
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: involved with it and stuff like that, but but still

733
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: the other thing is is that you have if the

734
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: NFL season does get stopped for whatever reason because of

735
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: COVID or does have to push back and pushes back

736
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: the draft to like June or something, then you would

737
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: be better off plane because there's gonna be a lot

738
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: of people who make money in between there with their

739
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: seasons that are gonna be be played, like prime example,

740
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: guys like Joe Joe Burrow last year and other people

741
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: like him who flew up the draft board because of

742
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: how well they played. So you have to take that

743
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: into account. So if it were me, I would not

744
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: declare to leave yet. I would be still in a

745
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: wait and see mode. But what still working out? Yeah? Well,

746
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: so why what's the point of announcing now when the

747
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: possibility could exist that a season, uh and maybe mid

748
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: November is ready to go and you would end maybe

749
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: around the same time that you would end otherwise. Want

750
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: to make the decision now, I don't, I don't, I

751
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that there's a level of kind

752
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 1: of understanding that you want to have a plan, but

753
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: it's not necessary at this time because like you can

754
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: still be working out training without having an agent and

755
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: all of that. So I would stick to that as

756
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: of right now unless I am pena sul, unless I

757
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: am Trevor Lawrence or you know, a top tier player

758
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: where I know where I'm going to get drafted for sure,

759
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: because he's not fallen out of the first first round,

760
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: so like there's no away. Yeah, so I'm yeah, so

761
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: I'm going off to go work out, but if I'm

762
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: not sure where I land or I think I'm second, third,

763
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: fourth round and I'm gonna play this season, buddy and

764
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: try to. So what do you think you think Walker

765
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: a little is is a Day one or Day two pick? Oh?

766
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: See that and that? And that's the thing is is

767
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: that you don't know at this point point in time.

768
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: Like I think that he was such a high recruit

769
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: that there was a lot of buzz surrounding him. But

770
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: what he did He missed last last season? Right, Yes,

771
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: I think he missed either yeah, most of last season. Yeah,

772
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: so he doesn't he doesn't have a lot of films,

773
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: so I don't even know how to evaluate him. For

774
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: the NFL, Like, how do you do that? So I

775
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: think that he's taking a very I don't know if

776
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: it's calculated because I don't know how you can calculate it,

777
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: but he's taking a risk, that's true. I mean, yeah,

778
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I do wonder why, um, that couldn't have

779
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: waited until November or something like that. Um. But I

780
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: mean there's also not that many sure fire NFL draft

781
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: picks in the Pact twelve. I think a lot of

782
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: people need to needed to prove themselves. And I think

783
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: the guys that have declared so far are ones who

784
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: we wondered whether or not they were even gonna come back.

785
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: So and and you know, pene Seul would have gone

786
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: pro if he had the ability. So UM, you know

787
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: that that part of it is is understandable. What's going

788
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: to be interesting is if we start to get some

789
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: people who you know, would maybe have been undrafted, betting

790
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: on themselves to go work out. You know that that

791
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: will be the real interesting thing is if there's guys

792
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: out there like Arizona States, Merlin Robertson or something like that, um,

793
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: who would have a ton left to prove. But you know,

794
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: but he's got a couple of kids, and he said,

795
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's the NFL life for me or nothing.

796
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: You know that that that's when it will get really

797
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: interesting for me, because you know, you're also worried about

798
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: putting your lack of film up against other conferences, you know,

799
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: kids who who do have junior film, and that that

800
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: that could cost you a lot. But then again, some

801
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: people better themselves and we end up being wrong. I mean,

802
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: did you see uh do you see J. J. Taylor

803
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: get a bunch of reps for the Patriots this last weekend?

804
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that he made the right decision, dude.

805
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: He no, No, dude, Like, when you go undrafted, you

806
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: miss out on so much money and so much opportunity.

807
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: Would he have been drafted though he's like five ft six? Who? Who?

808
00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: Who knows a better season in Arizona? Yeah? Maybe? I

809
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: mean and and and just this little bit of success

810
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: does not mean that he's gonna get a lot more

811
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: success because when you are drafted higher, you get more opportunities.

812
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: That means that the team has something invested in you.

813
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: They will find ways to make roles for you. Like

814
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: that's the difference is that is that the teams will

815
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: do so much more to try to make it work. See,

816
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then, but there's part of me

817
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: that thinks, if Bill Belichick can find a way to

818
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: use you on the football field, whether you're drafted or not.

819
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: Because this was J. J. Taylor made at the seventeenth

820
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: straight year that they opened up the season with a

821
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: U D S A on the active roster, which is

822
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: wild to think about. But some of those guys that

823
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: he's done that with have gone on to have NFL

824
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: careers elsewhere, whether it's Danny woodhead Um, who was another

825
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, very diminutive, do everything back. D J. Foster

826
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: was another one out of Arizona State who is going

827
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: on his fourth year in in the NFL. I think

828
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: he's on the Arizona Cardinals active roster right now. And

829
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: it's because you get in there, you get a little

830
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: NFL film, you prove you can do it against NFL competition.

831
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: You might be able to turn that into a decent

832
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: little free agent contract and choose where you go. And

833
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: so you know, obviously it's the exception to the rule.

834
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: It's that shouldn't be your plan. But I don't know

835
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: if J. J. Taylor would have been drafted regardless. You know,

836
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: if you're talking about guys like you know, Benjamin going

837
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: in round six, Josh Kelly going in round five, do

838
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: you really think J. J. Taylor would have been picked

839
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: if he spent one more year in Arizona with that

840
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 1: depleted offensive line, and then you might not have even

841
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: had a season at all. So you know, he he

842
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: could have been just sort of lost to history. So

843
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: sometimes I think if you, if you really know, and

844
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: you go out there and you bet on yourself, that's

845
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: that's the right thing to do. Yeah, I mean I

846
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: bet on myself and came out early, So I can't

847
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: begrudge in anybody else from doing it. I just know

848
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: that it makes it a lot harder on yourself. Um.

849
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: The the school down the road from Oregon in Eugene,

850
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 1: though Oregon State, they have said that that their fans

851
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: have said that they do not want to refund on

852
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: season tickets. Um, if you had season tickets to Arizona State,

853
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: Ralph or Arizona, you know if for the Arizona Amsdon's

854
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: would you uh, would you be requesting a refund for

855
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: your tickets or would you let the school keep it?

856
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: Ah Man, this economy. That's why this story stood out

857
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: to me. You know, we're talking about a story, UM

858
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: that that I had sent you over Twitter, where a

859
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: huge bulk of the Oregon State fan base UM have

860
00:53:54,360 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: decided that football season to get holders are telling the

861
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: schools keep the money. So I and I don't think

862
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: that's even um that that doesn't necessarily mean that they're

863
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: straight donations. I think only thirty of that is a

864
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: donation to the school. So that means thirty percent of

865
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: season ticket holders are eating the cost of the season

866
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: tickets assuming there's no season, and the other sixty are

867
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: asking that it being moved towards a deposit toward next

868
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: year's tickets. So I I could see being in a

869
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: position where I asked to shift my deposit, but in

870
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: in this economy, dude, I I don't know. I don't

871
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 1: know if I could say, hey, yeah, I just keep

872
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: my money. Yeah, bro, I'm not. I'm not saying that,

873
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: especially when they mismanaged the money to be in this

874
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: situation to begin with. As much as I love schools,

875
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: you know, we all have the schools that we cheer

876
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: cheer four and they could not have expected something so

877
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: severe that the season would get canceled or pushed back

878
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: or anything like that. I still believe that it's been

879
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: a mismanagement of funds to protect amateurism. That they're like

880
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: that they want to cry poor, always spend every dollar

881
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: and when especially the bulk of their money that they're

882
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: spending or that they're that they say they're saving is

883
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: for scholarships, where they're like, oh, we have to pay

884
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: the school for our scholarships. And I know that it is,

885
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: but it's a zero sum game, you know what I mean,

886
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: Like where the athletic department then writes to school a

887
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: full tuition check out of state tuition check for a

888
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: kid coming like that. That's just wild to me, but

889
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: is what it is. So yeah, so uh, they would

890
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: not be keeping my money if if I wanted to

891
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: make a donation that the separate thing. But keeping my

892
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: money for for season tickets and I don't get some

893
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: benefit from it. That's a note for me, buddy. I

894
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: mean I could see, I could see so like, you know,

895
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: let's say it was the University of Wyoming, you know,

896
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: and I root for them, and and Craig Bowl, their

897
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: head coach, has done some pretty incredible things. They got

898
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: thirteen guys in the NFL, right now, that's more than

899
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: you have. A that's more than a s U, I think, so,

900
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: like in its University of Wyoming, And so I could see,

901
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: I could see maybe if it's a school that I

902
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: root for that I don't owe money to, but like

903
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: I still owe a bunch of money for my Liberal

904
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: Arts degree from Arizona State. And if they asked to

905
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 1: keep my money, I'd say, all right, well how about

906
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: I get a refund on some of my my students

907
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: right right? Like you know, I'm I'm I'm gonna need

908
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 1: some of that depth for giving us up off you there.

909
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: You know, I understand that you're in a pinch, but

910
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: uh you know, yeah, you know we we we all

911
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: have needs, you know what I mean? Right, how about

912
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: how about we cancel a few months of interest payments

913
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: on these loans and y'all can keep my season ticket money.

914
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: See see that's what I'm talking about, dude, See, because

915
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: because they've already recouped way more than than they loaned out.

916
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would be in full favor of that

917
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: as well. Um. Now, all onto recruiting though, because recruiting

918
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: is a big deal and I have wondered how recruiting

919
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: was going to play out as the pandemic and the

920
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: season have been um unfolding. If Pack twelve teams could

921
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: start to see decommits, would they still be getting commits?

922
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: How all of this would work? How has it shaped

923
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: been chaking out Ralph? And then well, first of all,

924
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: we haven't had a chance to talk about this, but

925
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: how is you talking to recruit Yeah, they furloughed the

926
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: coaching staff, Like I don't understand, Like that's to me,

927
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: that seems like you just gave up. Yeah, furlowing everybody

928
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: is wild. Like how are recruits even gonna be able

929
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: to get their questions answered? I mean because you're furloughed,

930
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: So are you allowed to work in recruiting capacity? You

931
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: shouldn't be, Yeah, because you're not getting paid to do it.

932
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: And right now Utah has nine commits. Nine there Any

933
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: other year at this point in the year would be

934
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, but this year it's terrible. Yeah. But

935
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: when everybody around them has I mean, uh, Stanford is up,

936
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: they've gotten a few more, they're up to eleven. But

937
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: when you're talking about power of five schools, only schools

938
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: even reasonably near them are like Vanderbilt. Uh, Colorado is

939
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: way better. I mean they're behind U n L V

940
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 1: uh U c F. I'm sorry, Uh, University of Central

941
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: Florida and University of South Florida. I mean then you're

942
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: already up to Illinois, Old Miss, who are way better,

943
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: Appalachian State, Florida, Atlantic, Cincinnati, come up, Memphis, Kansas, Boston College,

944
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, and Rutgers. Rutgers is in the thirties, Like,

945
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: come on, man, what what are we doing here? Like?

946
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: How do you like? How do this is? Why? Utah

947
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: fans And I know you guys listen, So I don't

948
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: want you to take this as a negative, because you

949
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: fans are absolutely terrific. However, the idea that you think

950
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: that you're gonna take a bunch of three star athletes

951
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: and go win the Pack twelve or compete for a

952
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: national championship is absolutely craziness. Last year was craziness. Like

953
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: the idea that they thought that they were gonna go

954
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: beat Oregon, maybe would win the Pack two, maybe go

955
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: to the College Football playoffs and have a shot. You

956
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: don't have that. It takes a certain level of athletes

957
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: to be able to compete on that level. And they

958
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: saw it at the quarterback position because I said it

959
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: all year, I said, Tyler Huntley is gonna have to

960
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: be great at least two games that during the season too,

961
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: to a save the season, to have a perfect season,

962
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: anything like that. He's gonna have to be great in

963
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: two games, and he's and he wasn't a good enough

964
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: of a quarterback in terms of a passer and in

965
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: must pass situation because if you stop Utah from running

966
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: the ball, he can't beat you. And it proved it well.

967
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know how they really expect to win

968
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: at a high level because as good as like, imagine

969
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: if you took witty Ham and put him at USC,

970
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: what do you think what would happen? Ah, that's tough

971
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: because I mean you put him at USC with the

972
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: current staff they have no no I'm talking about if

973
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: you take Utah's full staff put them at USC. With

974
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: the talent at USC, do you think USC would win

975
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 1: more football games? I don't know if if he can

976
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: recruit to USC, but it recruits itself on some level.

977
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: But do you think they give it three years? And

978
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: after Morgan scally probably gets beat up in the parking

979
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: lot once or twice. They will be perennial Patrol South champions.

980
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: He's just too good at development. You would change um Like,

981
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: like you said, the school kind of recruits itself, so

982
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a different level of kids. I

983
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: think that he could do what he does at Utah

984
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: at USC and still win, just because the natural athlete

985
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: that's going to commit to the school over the staff

986
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: is going to be better than the one that commits

987
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: to Utah. So it's it's unavoidable. He'll be working with

988
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: better athletes regardless. In my opinion, that makes sense. That

989
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: makes sense even if he was a worse recruiter than

990
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: Dante than pre Dante Williams USC, I think they would

991
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: still be better off. Yeah, I mean, all right, so

992
01:02:55,480 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: let's let's look for a second at USC rooting. How

993
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: much better is it really? Okay? Because they have Miller

994
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: mass and Jake Garcia, right, Yes, Miller Moss is supposed

995
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: to check in in the wintertime. Jake Garcia is probably

996
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: checking out of there. It's possible. I mean that that

997
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: rumors have been there forever. But if he hasn't done

998
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: it yet, Yeah, but he's playing this season. He's down

999
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: in Georgia. He may go to my Miami. I mean,

1000
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:39,919
Speaker 1: but but also if you have two high four star quarterbacks,

1001
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: you really only have one, Like, it doesn't do you

1002
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: any good to recruit two, do you know what I'm saying?

1003
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Injuries you never know. Yeah, but

1004
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: they both can't play. That is the point is is

1005
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: that those two cancel each other out right, would you?

1006
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: But it might not matter because they can get a

1007
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: quarterback in the class of that is better than both

1008
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: of them. So and definitely depends. And Jake Garcia to

1009
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: me is a deep ball guy and Miller Moss is

1010
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: a dink and dunk guy. So there are two very

1011
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: different styles of quarterback. And so I think a lot

1012
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: of it's gonna matter is, you know what, what kind

1013
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: of offense are you running when both these guys get

1014
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: on campus, Because if they end up losing Graham Harrold

1015
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: and they go back to more of a pro style

1016
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: than that probably fits um in my opinion, that probably

1017
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: fits Jake Garcia a little bit better if they stick

1018
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: with what they have now, you know they want to

1019
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: throw fifty times a game. Miller Moss is probably the

1020
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: guy that you're you're gonna want to go with, but

1021
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: I think it's better. I mean, just in this class alone,

1022
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: if we're going by Rivals rankings, they have five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

1023
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: fourteen four stars in the class of So you want

1024
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 1: to compare that to last year, Well, well I too,

1025
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: I get that, but it's still USC. And so let's

1026
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: just play you know, like the reading the tea leaves

1027
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: from what's outside. You've had Jake Jake Garcia, who is

1028
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: a who there is a chance he could d commit.

1029
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: They there's the kid gayote Ote who transferred to Vegas,

1030
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: right I think maybe maybe um, yeah, but he might have.

1031
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: And then Saiah uh Mapa Kai Tolo just moved to Mesa,

1032
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: Arizona so that he could have a senior season. Yeah,

1033
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: And and they think that Gayoteote he may not qualify

1034
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: or may end up having to decommit or something like that.

1035
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: So you're looking at and um, because I read all

1036
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: the the the sites and this is coming from the

1037
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: USC sites as well, that they believe that the kid um,

1038
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: that the kid Quadra Davis from Texas, he may d

1039
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 1: coommit as well at some point in time. So it's

1040
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: like if those three chips fall. That's three. That's three

1041
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: of your that's three of your top five commits. Yeah,

1042
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: but I mean then you're still looking at eleven and

1043
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: then verses to and and they don't have any office alignement.

1044
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: They got they got uh Mason Murphy, Yeah, and Maximus

1045
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: get Maximus Gibbs is big dude. So they got a couple.

1046
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: But they got six in last year's class, so they

1047
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: don't need to go crazy. They were all I'm talking

1048
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: about highly rated. Yeah, I understand there's not a lot

1049
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: of highly rated offensive linemen on the West Coast, though.

1050
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: They're the one that again just pulled is up there. Though.

1051
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean, how crazy is it that you get to

1052
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: replace pinas Soul who according to rivals and I don't

1053
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: know why we did this, but we dropped him fourteen

1054
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: spots in our final rankings. Yeah, Pail was the number

1055
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: sixty overall player in the country coming out of high

1056
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: school according to two probably. I mean, but but even

1057
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: I had some doubts about him because he was playing

1058
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: in St. George, Utah against just absolute I mean, the

1059
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: biggest defensive end he probably well, he was playing at St.

1060
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: George up into St. George. I like that place. It's nice,

1061
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, but i'd probably the defensive end that put

1062
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: had the most weight that on that he had to

1063
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: face all years, probably one nine. So he was doing

1064
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: stuff in his film like he was picking up guys

1065
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: and straight throwing him to the moon. And and I

1066
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: remember watching that film and being like, whoa, this is

1067
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a rude awakening for pinais Seul because it's

1068
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: not like You're not gonna be able to do that.

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01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: And then you know, of course, no, that's exactly what

1070
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: you should be. You should be dominating lesser competition. And

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01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: so for some reason I took it as you know,

1072
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: once everything levels up, he might struggle, and that wasn't

1073
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: the case at all. Obviously, he's probably the best offensive

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01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: lineman I've ever had a chance to watch UM in

1075
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: my at least in the last nine years of covering

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01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: UM football in the in in the you know, Western

1077
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: United States, and so you know, but they get to

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01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: replace him, they get to replace him with another offensive

1079
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: lineman from Utah, from orahm Utah six ft five uh.

1080
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: And that was one of two commits that they've got

1081
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks. They got Jabril McNeil

1082
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: from Raleigh, North Carolina, which UM prompted a pretty funny

1083
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: tweet from an Oregon staff are saying, you know who

1084
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: said we could go out east to recruit And I

1085
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 1: was thinking to myself like, literally everything is east of Eugene,

1086
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: but okay, and then you of course have to be

1087
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: that guy contrary and yeah, Kingsley Sua Mattaya or um

1088
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:19,879
Speaker 1: Utah six pounds and he we have him at Rivals

1089
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 1: as the number sixty three overall player in the country.

1090
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: So some parallels to him and Pine sul even though

1091
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: he's about eighty pounds lighter and sw us coming out

1092
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: of high school. But Seill cut a lot of weight,

1093
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: I think, UM. But so yeah, that was that was

1094
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 1: really big UM. Arizona State has had some success recently recruiting,

1095
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: especially wide receivers, and and they've continued their national approach.

1096
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: They landed somebody on September eleven named Dominic Lovett out

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01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: of East St. Louis, Illinois. He's a four star wide

1098
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: receiver UM, and that means that they now have play

1099
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: is out of Illinois, Texas, California, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Louisiana, Washington, Virginia,

1100
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: and Florida and Michigan. So Arizona State has gone full

1101
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: big ten with their with their recruiting, and everybody else

1102
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: has been kind of relatively quiet. I mean, I think

1103
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: Washington has had some success, but UM Cal had a

1104
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: bunch of commits in the first two weeks of August.

1105
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: They had one on the thirty one of July and

1106
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: that was that rolled off five in two weeks streak

1107
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: for them, uh, four of which are all from California,

1108
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: once from Clackamus, Oregon, UM and so and then things

1109
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,839
Speaker 1: have been kind of quiet for them. They have eighteen

1110
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: total commitments, and I think, you know, all everything seems

1111
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: to adversely affect Stanford UM. But I think that they're

1112
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: in an interesting situation right now where they only have

1113
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: ten total commits, and usually around this time that might

1114
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: be where they're at, but they usually have a couple

1115
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: of top fifty in the country on the hook and

1116
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: they don't have any of that. This year. They have

1117
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: nine three stars and a two star, so, I mean,

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01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: probably the best commit that they have on board two scars, Gooby,

1119
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: I don't think. So it's a running back out of Clearwater, Florida,

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01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, I think that. I think

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01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: Stanford and Utah are are definitely in a little bit

1122
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: of trouble. It would be What would be interesting is

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01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: if Utah landed a commit during their furlough, what would

1124
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: they because their last commit they got on August thirty

1125
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: one from Mason to Faga out of Hawaii, and so

1126
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: it would be really interesting to me to see if, like,

1127
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: would they all be able to tweet about it? Can

1128
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: they all tweet about it? Who? Who do if a

1129
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: three falls in the forest, there's nobody there to hear,

1130
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't make a sound? Did it really sign his

1131
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: letter of intent? I mean, like, how can you actually

1132
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: do a good job of recruiting players? I mean, I

1133
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I think that that furloughing your staff is

1134
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: probably the last thing that you want to do in

1135
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: your most important sport on campus. And then it's feels

1136
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: very Larry Scott like to like to like to like

1137
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: show see, look, all our sports are are equal, but

1138
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: they're not though they're not. Yeah, yeah, And I just

1139
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's weird because everybody has so many

1140
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: commits right now, um that the classes could be close

1141
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: to complete. But with other teams elsewhere in the country

1142
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: playing you know, that might be a way to negatively

1143
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: recruit against the Pac twelve and lure some of these

1144
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: players away. So it'll that that'll be the really interesting

1145
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: thing to see is if, if, if the Pac twelve

1146
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 1: can hold on to all of their commits while they're

1147
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: not playing football. Yeah yeah, now, I definitely I think

1148
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: that that's gonna be very very interesting because teams are

1149
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: obviously gonna be trying to negatively recruit. But it hasn't

1150
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:26,879
Speaker 1: affected I mean, it hasn't affected Arizona State, hasn't affected

1151
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: Oregon so far. It's just gonna be a matter if

1152
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: they can close them, you know what I mean, getting

1153
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: players to two signing day like that. That's gonna be

1154
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: the key the Pack twelve needs to just they need

1155
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: to be sending out these NFL highlights because Josh Kelly

1156
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown in his first ever NFL game, Levisca

1157
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: Chenault went off in his first ever NFL game, and

1158
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: he's catching touchdown passes from Gardner Minshew from from Washington State,

1159
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: and so it's and then Zack moss Zack Mosscott in

1160
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 1: the end zone. Yeah, and uh, what's his name? We

1161
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: were talking about him earlier. Um ah, somebody else had

1162
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: a good game. Oh J Taylor, Yeah, j J Taylor

1163
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: had a good game. Nikkil Harry almost cost the almost

1164
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: but he only had twelve catches as a rookie. He

1165
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: I think he had five on Sunday. So he's back,

1166
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: which is nice. He's on pace for uh a good start. Yeah,

1167
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: And so I mean, well, if you I think five

1168
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: catches a game gets you to like ninety catches or

1169
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: something like that. So if he can keep this pace,

1170
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: so he might win Comeback Player of the Year. But

1171
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 1: like all these guys all that went to all these

1172
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: different schools that are now having NFL success, you know,

1173
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: whether it's Gardner Minshew, you know, we might not have

1174
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: been able to get Gardner Minshew drafted. But look, you know,

1175
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,719
Speaker 1: Labisca Chenalt might not have gone in the first round

1176
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: like he probably should have according to his talent and

1177
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 1: not his injury history. But he's out there doing touchdown

1178
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: Dan says, where he's bowling for his teammates, which I

1179
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 1: absolutely love. Uh. You know, Josh Kelly probably being good

1180
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: enough to be the feature back in in l A

1181
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: where he played is wild and then Zack Moss fits

1182
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 1: in so well in Buffalo, he's already having success. He

1183
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: was a late round pick. Um. You know, you know

1184
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: Benjamin was Frank Gore. Dude. I thought he was Free

1185
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 1: Gore because they look like the same dude when they're

1186
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: when they're running. I had to remember that Frank Gore

1187
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: plays for a different team. Now, Frank Frank Gore, if

1188
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: you cut his feet off, he's it feels like. But yeah, so,

1189
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: but that does remind me. Um. The results of our

1190
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: poll about Pena sul uh did you know we had

1191
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: We only had fifty votes on the pole and zero

1192
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: percent said that he should go first overall. Well, that's

1193
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: because they know who Trevor Lawrence is. Yeah, so said

1194
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: second behind Lawrence said three to five, said six to ten,

1195
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: And I want to know who because that's that's not happening.

1196
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: He's not He's not making it all the way to six. No, no,

1197
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: uh yeah. The The only way is is if you know, like,

1198
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 1: like the furthest he probably falls is three, which would

1199
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: put Trevor Lawrence and then and then justin fields for

1200
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: a quarterback needy team, and then Penas like that's the

1201
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: furthest he falls his three totally, Um and oh So

1202
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: were there any other players, pectro players in the NFL

1203
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: that were notable that we that maybe we were surprised about. Well, um,

1204
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: you know Benjamin. What what's tough for Arizona State fans is,

1205
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin cost DJ Foster a roster spot. Uh.

1206
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: DJ Foster got bumped down to the practice squad And

1207
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: it's tough for people who live in areas and our

1208
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 1: Cardinals in Arizona State fans because either you know, Benjamin

1209
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: succeeding means DJ Foster doesn't, or vice versa. And then

1210
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: come game time, DJ Foster got elevated to the active

1211
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: roster and I think, you know, Benjamin was inactive but

1212
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: suited up, so that that whole situation is weird, um,

1213
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 1: but worth monitoring. Uh. And then I saw on the

1214
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: Patriots depth chart. I watched the Patriots game, but I

1215
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: didn't see that much of him on the field, but

1216
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: ASSISI I think his backup tight end for New England,

1217
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: So you have to figure that that means he's going

1218
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: to get um some play. Uh. Calein Blage, who the

1219
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: Dolphins attempted to trade to the Jets and he failed

1220
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: his physical Um, I think he ended up just getting

1221
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: let go by Miami and he got picked up by

1222
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,799
Speaker 1: the Jets, so he's back. Uh. One of the coolest

1223
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: things that I saw on Sunday was Austin Jackson, former

1224
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: USC left tackle, won the starting job in Miami and

1225
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: he's blocking for Ryan Fitzpatrick, who I played against in

1226
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: high school when Austin Jackson was just one year old.

1227
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: That's wild, dude. Um. There's also uh, Pharaoh Brown, former

1228
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: tight end at Oregon, and I don't know this because

1229
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: I talked to him. He just signed with Houston's with

1230
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans two yesterday. Yeah, yes, yesterday, he just

1231
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: signed with with them to be on their active roster

1232
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: and uh, because he was in Cleveland and he may

1233
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: actually have an opportunity to work into the starting uh

1234
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: the lineup in in a tight end. Like he's a

1235
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 1: guy who I definitely think has the ability to be

1236
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: a starter in the in the NFL. But you know,

1237
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: but opportunity thing I was talking about earlier, Opportunity is

1238
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: not always the same when you don't when you go

1239
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: to certain places and coaches that get too caught up

1240
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: on money or your draft status and they don't always

1241
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: pay attention to you know, like the best player, or

1242
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: give you a fair opportunity. You know who's still plugging

1243
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: along is Mercedes Lewis. He's a number one tight end

1244
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: for for Green Bay. What I'm expecting him to have

1245
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: a pretty big year. Uh yeah, he's he He like you,

1246
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: from from the pack to Jacksonville and has now is

1247
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: now making his way with the packers. My what what

1248
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 1: did the baby's mother say? Uh? Nothing because she's dead baby?

1249
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: Uh what do what? What do you say? His mom

1250
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: always said, if I don't have nothing nice to say,

1251
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: they don't say nothing. Make I mean, they don't say

1252
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: anything at all? Are your CD Lewis fan? Or is

1253
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:13,879
Speaker 1: this about Jacksonville? I have nothing to say? Okay, period? Okay,

1254
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 1: so we can we can play start sick cut now. Okay, okay,

1255
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: so we we didn't play start sick cut on the

1256
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: last episode, but the last here we are we must

1257
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: play starts sick cut. Um. Today, we have two topics.

1258
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: The first thing is the Power five conferences that are

1259
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: still playing? How would you rank? Who are you starting?

1260
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: Who are you sitting? Who are you cutting? As far

1261
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: as the Pack twelve conferences that are still playing, we'll

1262
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: start wars starting. Well, I'm gonna start the a c

1263
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: C because I think that they've they've been just sort

1264
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: of quietly going about their busines. Nos. UM, there hasn't

1265
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 1: been any pot shots that I remember. There might have been,

1266
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: but they're just not memorable to me. UM. As far

1267
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: as back and forth between the a CEC Commissioner and

1268
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve and the Big ten, UM, most of

1269
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: those whoo, I mean Florida State took a massive hell

1270
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: coming out the gate. But for for the most part, UM,

1271
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, Clemson handled business. Clemson has sort of been

1272
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 1: out in the forefront of UM, both wanting to play

1273
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: and also address a lot of the UM you know,

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01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: social issues that are going I think Trevor Lawrence has

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01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 1: been an awesome ambassador for the game, even though he

1276
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: has absolutely no reason to even take a snap this year,

1277
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be the number one pick regardless. UM.

1278
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: But I'm starting the a c C. I think that

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01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 1: they're handling being in the mix the best of the

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01:21:55,720 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: three conferences, UM, I would say, okay, of the three conferences.

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01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: So the SEC hasn't started yet, uh so I am

1282
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start the SEC. I'm gonna start them because

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01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 1: they haven't had anything go wrong yet in terms of

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01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: except for Ed Oderon today talking about oh yeah, I

1285
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: think think my whole I think my whole team had

1286
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: COVID already. Like, shut up, you're not an emmy knowledgeist.

1287
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: That's exactly why college football coaches cannot be the medical

1288
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: the decision makers, and so uh oh so quick story.

1289
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: The UH schools are also changing some Some schools have

1290
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: already changed their policy on how they're dealing with COVID cases.

1291
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: So instead of the medical staffs being involved in it,

1292
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: the kids get a caseworker and they're not even allowed

1293
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: to tell the trainers or anybody else whether they have

1294
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: tested positive or whether they're just contact quarantined, and then

1295
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: they are allowed to come back once their case worker

1296
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: clears them, no time before that. So it's so it's

1297
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: uh stops with the hipo viola violations. And it also

1298
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, takes the coaches out of the decision makers,

1299
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: out of the decision process, being that they've proven that

1300
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: they can't be objective. So I am starting the sec

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01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: they don't start till the twenty six. They haven't had

1302
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: anything go wrong so far, aside from a bunch of

1303
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 1: COVID cases on our campuses. Because they won't shut them

1304
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: shut them down. Um. But yeah, so for right now,

1305
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm starting the SEC. Who are you sitting I'm I say,

1306
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, SEC because they got these kids on

1307
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 1: campus who just don't care, and so I would I

1308
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: would encourage them too to hold back, um and just

1309
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: understand that like that your campus environment could end up

1310
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: costing you football. And so that's that's the reason they're

1311
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: on the bench for me, is until they get the

1312
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: campuses under control. Um that you know, they're they're putting

1313
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: their whole seasons at risk by not making sure that

1314
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: the student body understands, you know, what's at risk and

1315
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: and you know, isn't just a bunch of um kids

1316
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: who are stir crazy for me and locked in their

1317
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: house for the last six months and you know, partying

1318
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: out on frat row every single day. Yeah, but then

1319
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, but did you die though, Um, I

1320
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: am going to sit the a c C. I'm gonna

1321
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 1: sit the a c C. Because, um, they're literally having

1322
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: to shut down games because they have people on campus

1323
01:24:56,240 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: to say thing like the SEC is doing, so they're

1324
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: having to cancel games, so they have to sit out.

1325
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 1: So they have to sit and start sit cut who

1326
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: are you uh? Who are you cutting? Big twelve because

1327
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 1: they at the end of the day they probably wished

1328
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: that they had stopped. You gotta put them out of

1329
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: their misery. I was surprised by what happened to Kansas State.

1330
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: I was appalled by what happened to Kansas Kansas. Okay,

1331
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: so if anybody does doesn't know, so we can openly

1332
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: talk about this. I am sitting the Big twelve two.

1333
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: It was completely obvious because there was only three options.

1334
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: But Louisiana lost to Louisiana beat Iowa State, who was ranked,

1335
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: Arkansas State beat Kansas State, and Coastal freaking Carolina beat

1336
01:25:55,640 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: Kansas and Houston Baptist Bear League missed beating Texas Tech

1337
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 1: Houston Baptist. I didn't even know that that was I mean,

1338
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: is that an HBCU or is it a just a

1339
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: small college? Honestly, no idea none. I didn't even know that.

1340
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,759
Speaker 1: I didn't even know they had football me either, dude.

1341
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 1: I mean that's like, that's that's like I found out

1342
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago to Georgetown even played football,

1343
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: so I knew a kid who played quarterbacks to me,

1344
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: so that I learned about them from him getting the

1345
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: quarterback job. So yeah, I mean the Big twelve has

1346
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: been awful. But I don't mind all these upsets though.

1347
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I love it. I do love college

1348
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: football with all with all these upsets, and and and

1349
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:52,959
Speaker 1: I hope that this weekend that we get UM Tulsa

1350
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 1: beating Oklahoma State, Houston beating Baylor, Florida South Florida beating

1351
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. I think these are optimal scenarios for me. Yeah.

1352
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: The the interesting one for me was Iowa State because

1353
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 1: there was all that hype on Rock Purty. And I'll

1354
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: tell you this, I mean, it's legit. I came up

1355
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 1: watching him. He is an absolute freak when when he

1356
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: has a rhythm of the offense. I don't know what

1357
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: happened against Louisiana Lafayette, but the funniest thing about that

1358
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: whole game was Billy Napier was the o C at

1359
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: Arizona State when Brock Purty was the quarterback out at

1360
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: Perry High School out here, and and and a. SU

1361
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: refused to recruit him until it was too late, and

1362
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: then he turned them down to even take a visit

1363
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: to the campus. And so it was. It was kind

1364
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 1: of funny to see those two go to head to

1365
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 1: head and then Billy Napier got the best of him,

1366
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 1: and he's done a fantastic job out there um at Louisiana.

1367
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: I think that one was probably because I was State

1368
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a big twelve darling, So that

1369
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: one was probably uh stung a lot more for the

1370
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: for the conference as a whole than the Kansas State

1371
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 1: in Kansas one. But the Kansas one, to me is

1372
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: what stands out because they didn't just it's not like

1373
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: they lost a squeaker. They got their ass beat. They

1374
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 1: give up thirty eight points to Coastal Carolina, which I

1375
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: thought was a baseball school up until last year. So yeah,

1376
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 1: I was shocked that that that even happened, and it it.

1377
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: If I'm the Pack twelve, I look really hard at

1378
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 1: not scheduling any Mountain West. We already say it on

1379
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 1: this podcast all the time, avoid the Mountain West if

1380
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: at all possible. But I think the Mountain West comes

1381
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 1: calling and says, hey, can we get a nonconference game

1382
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: in before we all restart our seasons? Whenever we restart them,

1383
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: I think the PAC twelve needs to say you know

1384
01:28:53,000 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 1: new phone who this We're not We're not interested. You

1385
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: don't want to play? You want to go play in Laramie,

1386
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 1: Wyoming in November. Do nobody wants to play in Laramie, Wyoming?

1387
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean ever? Yeah? There, I mean think, I mean,

1388
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: think about it. They who is the last good pro

1389
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: player to come out of Wyoming? Anyway? Oh, don't do this,

1390
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: don't do this. What we're not We're not doing this.

1391
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,839
Speaker 1: Do what do away? All right, So we'll eliminate quarterbacks

1392
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 1: in the competition since we don't want to have a

1393
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 1: half hour debate that we already have on the phone

1394
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: earlier this morning. Um, and I will say that Andrew Wingered,

1395
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 1: the safety for the Jacksonville Jaguars, is was a can't

1396
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: miss prospect and everybody missed on him anyway. He went

1397
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 1: undrafted and he's already he got He intercepted Philip Rivers. So, um,

1398
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a pro I think Brian Hill

1399
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 1: running back for the Falcons, he's a real good player,

1400
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: um low and Wilson Uh is good too. Like I said,

1401
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 1: there's thirteen cowboys in the pros. And you know what

1402
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: I think of Josh Allen so well, I mean, well,

1403
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: well I would, I would say, then then he's the

1404
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: best Wyoming player to ever play in the NFL then

1405
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: probably because it certainly isn't bummy Josh Allen. Okay, hey,

1406
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 1: uh je nova check. We got to give him some

1407
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: of course, dude, of course, of course, dude. Yeah, so dude,

1408
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 1: I am a hundred percent um with you, dude in

1409
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 1: terms of Wyoming being you know, good for sending out

1410
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 1: some NFL players, but Josh Allen just isn't one of them. Um.

1411
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: The last start sick cut though, is probably gonna make

1412
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: some people upset, but it's okay. We are going to

1413
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: go tailgating condiments, tailgating condiments. And this all started off

1414
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 1: with actually we we don't even have to go tell

1415
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: tailgating CONDI condiments because I had a debate that I

1416
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 1: talked about on my own pie podcast, and I want

1417
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: to know where you stand on this. This was the

1418
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: Mayo versus miracle Whip. This debate because my family, I

1419
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 1: grew up in a house where we I grew up

1420
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: on miracle whip. My father loves miracle whip, dude, and

1421
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 1: and as a person who grows vegetables on a lettuce

1422
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,759
Speaker 1: grow in my backyard. I probably myself on eating fresh

1423
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: food like real ingredients. Uh, miracle whip is is like

1424
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 1: fake mayo. Like I know that mayonnaise is fattening. However

1425
01:31:55,439 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 1: it's made of real ingredients. And so I refused al

1426
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 1: to eat miracle whip. It's it's like eating souse. I'm

1427
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: not eating souse anymore. Um I really you've become one

1428
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 1: of those you swore off miracle in all situations. Dude, Okay,

1429
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: so when I make it is miracle it is. You know,

1430
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: it is mayonnaise with with about fifty different fake ingredients

1431
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: including a high froug toast corn syrup to make it.

1432
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: So I am out, Dude, I don't. I don't eat

1433
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: honey sauce, which is honey. That didn't like when you

1434
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 1: go to KFC or something, you get honey packets. That's

1435
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,600
Speaker 1: not honey, that's honey salt. It literally says it on

1436
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 1: the packet. If you eat Miss Buttersworth or Jemima's or

1437
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: any of those syrups, it's not or log cabin it

1438
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 1: is not freaking syrup. It is syrups sauce. And I

1439
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 1: if it didn't come out the damn tree, if it's

1440
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 1: not grade a maple syrup grade B. If you like that,

1441
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 1: then I'm not touching it. Don't give me no damn

1442
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 1: pancakes with no fake gas syrup, and don't give me

1443
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: no fake as honey. And yes, I do have expensive

1444
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 1: as Manuka honey in my in my pantry for when

1445
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 1: I get sick. And so yeah, so I'm definitely not

1446
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: eating no damn miracle whip. All right. Well, I would

1447
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: argue that there's a time and place for everything, and

1448
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 1: you grew up eating it, and you're fine. Uh, miracle

1449
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:36,759
Speaker 1: whip is to cover up the taste of cheap meat.

1450
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: That's what it's for. I grew up eating some cheap

1451
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: food sometimes for various reasons. And miracle whip was something

1452
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: you put on a bologny sandwich to cover up the

1453
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 1: fact that you have to eat a Bolognay and craft

1454
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 1: cheese single sandwich on wonderbread. And the miracle whip would

1455
01:33:56,439 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 1: would would do enough of the work to make you

1456
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: not completely regret the cheese and bologna sandwich eating experience.

1457
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 1: And so I would say that, you know, my kids

1458
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,600
Speaker 1: don't have miracle whip in the fridge ever, and and

1459
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:15,719
Speaker 1: my my wife is one of those people that looks

1460
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: down on on miracle whip eaters. But I'm not. I'm

1461
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 1: not like you, man. I'm not ashamed of my miracle

1462
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: whip consuming past. And I still got a thing of

1463
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: Miss Buttersworth in my kitchen. And it doesn't go on

1464
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:30,599
Speaker 1: the real waffles. It doesn't go on the Belgian waffles.

1465
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 1: It doesn't go on the waffles that get the little

1466
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 1: sprinkle of powdered sugar and the homemade whipped cream topping

1467
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 1: it off with some slices of strawberries. It goes on,

1468
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: e goes, it goes on, It goes on cheap frozen waffles.

1469
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 1: Everything has its place, and I think that you can

1470
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: partake without going overboard, uh with with anything. Now, I

1471
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 1: do not have miracle whip in my house, and that

1472
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 1: is largely an executive decision from the boss of the family.

1473
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: But I'm not ready to sit back and swear it

1474
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: off and pretend like it. It doesn't that that I

1475
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't go for it in a pinch, because

1476
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: I would, Okay, in an emergency, No, I'm going straight mustard, homie,

1477
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 1: straight money. Bologny sandwich is emergency territory due and and

1478
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,600
Speaker 1: in in the and who the hell eats cold bologney

1479
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 1: sandwiches anyway, A little Ralph, Little Ralph dude, if you

1480
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,759
Speaker 1: get a bologny, if you're gonna eat bologny, the only

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Speaker 1: way to eat it is to is to get a skillet.

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Speaker 1: Put it in the skillet, fry it up on both sides,

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Speaker 1: Like get that thing in the way. It bubbles up

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Speaker 1: in the middle, and you gotta like, but you should,

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Speaker 1: you should actually score it that way it doesn't buckle,

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Speaker 1: and then uh, and then cook it up, throw some

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Speaker 1: mustard on both sides. It is like a poor man's

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Speaker 1: perstroamy sandwich. I like that the assumption, the assumption is

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Speaker 1: there that like, Okay, he can't he can't afford slice turkey,

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Speaker 1: but maybe he can afford to pay the gas bill,

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Speaker 1: fry up his bologna. And although I did, I did

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Speaker 1: have some college friends who would throw it on a

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Speaker 1: hot plate or a or an iron. I think I

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Speaker 1: think I've remember Dominique Roger's crow. Marty the NFL cornerback.

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Speaker 1: He I watched him back in the early wild West

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Speaker 1: days of Twitter, when they used to go on the

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Speaker 1: players used to go on you stream and just talk

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Speaker 1: about whatever. I remember. I remember seeing Darnielle Dockin on

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Speaker 1: you stream straight up leave the room. He'd be like

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Speaker 1: visiting his family in uh in Virginia, and he would

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01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 1: leave the room and his like eleven year old nephews

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01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 1: would sit there on his youth stream and say the

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01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 1: most har I thick shit imaginable. And I used to

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01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 1: just crack up, like this is a professional athlete, and

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01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: like there's no real reporters on Twitter or anything to

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Speaker 1: really you know, say anything or call anybody out for stuff.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was truly the fun days of Twitter.

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Speaker 1: But I remember one of those youth streams, uh, Darnell

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Speaker 1: Dockett had Domini Grodger's chrome already explained how to how

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Speaker 1: he used to fry Maloney Tennessee State or wherever he

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Speaker 1: went to college on his iron in his dorm room,

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01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 1: and they just straight up made a sandwich on the

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Speaker 1: on the youth stream, And I was like, I should

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Speaker 1: have gone that route with it. Yeah, bro, yeah, so did?

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Speaker 1: I mean? There are certain things that have changed out

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Speaker 1: in life, and you know, when when you know better,

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Speaker 1: you do better. I don't. I don't eat a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that I used to eat when I was younger, you,

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Speaker 1: I mean like that as I grew up in Memphis,

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Speaker 1: So you know you're out here quoting the Bible, you

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01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 1: know when when I was young, you're doing the adult

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Speaker 1: things for adults. Yeah, all right. So if I told

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Speaker 1: you guaranteed, guaranteed, like guaranteed at least ten win season

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Speaker 1: for Oregon, assuming that everything uh was, you know, according

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01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 1: to plan, we actually got to have a full season

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01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: and everything like that. You know, all you had to

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Speaker 1: do was straight up eat a jar of miracle whip

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Speaker 1: with a spoon. You have enough confidence in your team

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Speaker 1: to get it done without you. Are you eating the

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Speaker 1: jar of miracle whip? Tin winz guaranteed ten wins, guaranteed

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Speaker 1: tin wins, bro We were gonna walk into tin tin

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Speaker 1: wins this last season. So so no, I'm not eating

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Speaker 1: the jar of nine wins. At the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: you'd be you'd be regretting. Hell no, because because truthfully,

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Speaker 1: ten wins doesn't get you to where you were trying

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Speaker 1: to trying to be. Anyway, if you guarantee, if you

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Speaker 1: guarantee me a a an undefeated trip to the Pack

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Speaker 1: twelve championship, yeah I'll eat it. Because like, like, you

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Speaker 1: don't even have to Garrett guarantee me a win in

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Speaker 1: the Pac twelve Championship, because I would have enough confidence

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Speaker 1: that they would get get that done. And then an

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Speaker 1: undefeated twelve and old season plus thirteen and old Pack

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01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 1: twelve champions with as much hype as they came into

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Speaker 1: season with that would have. Would you agree that that

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Speaker 1: would be an automatic trip to the college football player Yeah?

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01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 1: Probably yeah, because within Ohio State. Yeah yeah, so so

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Speaker 1: yeah bro so yeah yeah. So if you Garrett guarantee

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Speaker 1: me undefeated to the Pack twelve championship, yeah, I will

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Speaker 1: eat that, jar Mal, I mean of a miracle whip.

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Speaker 1: But you don't you wouldn't. You wouldn't say, like, all right,

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Speaker 1: at least ten wins. I can guarantee it. No, really, no,

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Speaker 1: why would I guarantee to do dude? I get it

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Speaker 1: for a Bowl appearance? Yeah, of course, of course I

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01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 1: don't care. So would so would you do it? You

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01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 1: would do it for like a guaranteed nine win season

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Speaker 1: for Wyoming. I would do it. To end this podcast

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Speaker 1: five minutes early, all right, well on on on that note,

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Speaker 1: we will end the podcast. Thank you guys for listening

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Speaker 1: to the Fact Globe apostles, we appreciate your time, appreciate

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Speaker 1: your energew Thank you guys for listening. We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Peace out, Catch you guys, next episode.