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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty at

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<v Speaker 2>ten o two East Coast time.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a ruling from the US Supreme Court on

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<v Speaker 3>the popular app known as TikTok. The Supreme Court upholds

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<v Speaker 3>the law that was passed by Congress in a bipartisan manner,

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<v Speaker 3>signed in the law by Joe Biden last April to

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<v Speaker 3>find a new buyer within two hundred and seventy days.

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<v Speaker 3>The Supreme Court has now ruled that that law stands.

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<v Speaker 3>What happens to the app, however, is.

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<v Speaker 1>A wide open question.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is just happening now, and we were planning

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about TikTok anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>What does this mean? Joe?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, as always, I want to point out, it's a

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<v Speaker 5>ban on the Chinese ownership of the social media app

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<v Speaker 5>because they are a hostile power. That's what the law says.

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<v Speaker 5>Supreme Court upheld the ban quote. There's no doubt that

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<v Speaker 5>TikTok offers a distinctive and expansive outlet for expression, means

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<v Speaker 5>of engagement, and source of community. But Congress has determined

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<v Speaker 5>that devestiture is necessary to address it's well supported national

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<v Speaker 5>security concerns regarding TikTok's data collection practices and relationship with

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<v Speaker 5>a foreign adversary. For the foregoing reasons, we conclude that

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<v Speaker 5>the challenge provisions do not violate petitioners First Amendment rights.

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<v Speaker 5>Just as Soda Mayor has an opinion concurring in part

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<v Speaker 5>she thinks it does touch on the First Amendment, some

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<v Speaker 5>gorstch concurs in the judgment that is the result.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the ruling? M miss that. What was the number?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we know? Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have that number. There are various concurring opinions.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, it's not always like six to three. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>it's four plus one plus one to three, if you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying. Because they partially agree with each

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<v Speaker 5>other anyway, So yeah, TikTok must divest itself from its

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<v Speaker 5>Chinese overlords if it wants to keep doing business in

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<v Speaker 5>the United States, Thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 4>In two hundred and whatever day starting Sunday or did

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<v Speaker 4>that start a long time ago?

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<v Speaker 1>And the deal and the time is up on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 5>The time is running out. I think, Yeah, it's up

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<v Speaker 5>on Sunday. So that was a last minute of yours.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what, Listen, I don't want to court

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<v Speaker 5>a fight with hardcore Trump supporters, and y'all are absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>welcome any time, and sometimes we'll agree, sometimes we'll disagree,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We can still be friends. But Trump's jumping in and.

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<v Speaker 5>Saying, yeah, maybe I can say, well, I can work

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<v Speaker 5>out a deal because TikTok's been good to me and

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<v Speaker 5>they helped me get elected. I'm sorry, no, no, not

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<v Speaker 5>going there. And the Supreme Court is not going to

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<v Speaker 5>let it happen either. So this is by fifty times

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<v Speaker 5>the most significant thing you will hear about out the

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<v Speaker 5>question of TikTok and its Chinese ownership. Peter Schweitzer as

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<v Speaker 5>always doing some great writing. It was published in Breitbart,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, Breitbart primarily does a very very good job.

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<v Speaker 5>It's disappointing to me that this will not be heard

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<v Speaker 5>more widely. But he has dug deep and long into

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<v Speaker 5>available documents, speeches, memos, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>From the Chinese.

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<v Speaker 5>Communists, and the title of the article is why Beijing

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<v Speaker 5>wants Americans to keep using TikTok, And he talks about

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<v Speaker 5>how everyone's talking about the potential ban and weighing in

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<v Speaker 5>with friends of the court, briefs and statements and the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of it. From Trump to Mike Pence to nearly

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<v Speaker 5>two dozen state attorneys general blah blah blah. But there's

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<v Speaker 5>none of their opinion, Schweitzer rights from a source to

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<v Speaker 5>the court, will not hear from the Chinese Communist Party,

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<v Speaker 5>what do they think? Very few are talking about what

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<v Speaker 5>the Communists in Beijing think of the looming TikTok decision.

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<v Speaker 5>China is wielding. TikTok is a weapon wage unders diricted

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<v Speaker 5>warfare on the US. That is why the Chinese CCP

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<v Speaker 5>views TikTok as a quote modern day trojan horse, that's

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<v Speaker 5>their quote, and classified its powerful algorithm is a top

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<v Speaker 5>secret quote national security asset.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe maybe she listens to the Armstrong and Getty

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<v Speaker 4>show or gets the podcast. I believe we called it

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<v Speaker 4>a trojan horse and talked about how it makes the

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<v Speaker 4>original trojan horse seem like nothing. Oh, the original wooden

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<v Speaker 4>trojan horse pushed in there. Okay, some warriors jumped on.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not like re educating your youth for the next

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<v Speaker 4>several generations.

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<v Speaker 5>Though in the Comi zone, words TikTok's constant stream of

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<v Speaker 5>short and over stimulating videos make for a powerfully addictive

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<v Speaker 5>source of propaganda. In a restricted Chinese academic journal, Colonel Deju,

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<v Speaker 5>a professor at China's top military academy, wrote that the

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<v Speaker 5>real battle between the US and China is quote information

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<v Speaker 5>driven mental warfare. A separate journal, he said, Younger People's

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<v Speaker 5>Liberation Army propagandists and increasingly realize the popularity of short

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<v Speaker 5>videos online, and TikTok is the best example of this

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<v Speaker 5>so far. He's talking about Red Army propagandists and how

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<v Speaker 5>valuable they think TikTok is leading the Chinese People's Liberation

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<v Speaker 5>Army in the future, will refer to it as the

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<v Speaker 5>PLA strategist Zeng Hufeng argues that the CCP must use

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<v Speaker 5>quote information and popular spiritual and cultural products as weapons

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<v Speaker 5>to influence people's psychology, will attitude, behavior, and even change

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<v Speaker 5>the ideology, values, cultural traditions, and social systems. According to Zeng,

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<v Speaker 5>these cultural tools, including apps, video games, et cetera, should

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<v Speaker 5>be used quote to target individuals, groups, countries, and even

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<v Speaker 5>people around the world.

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<v Speaker 4>They are obviously, have been, and we're planning to continue

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<v Speaker 4>using our freedom against us the one hundred percent the

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<v Speaker 4>battle between democracies and authoritarian regimes. Sometimes you hear it

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<v Speaker 4>argued as to like, which is better for the people?

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<v Speaker 4>You people are crazy. I mean, it's not even a

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<v Speaker 4>close call. Democracies are better for human beings. Then I

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<v Speaker 4>don't care if they can build bridges more efficiently and

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<v Speaker 4>quickly or whatever. But in terms of which system is

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<v Speaker 4>going to win, which is going which is better in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of dominating the world, I'm not certain in the

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<v Speaker 4>modern techno era, where you can reach across borders, that

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<v Speaker 4>the free countries can survive ahead of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean countries.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to get back to the text of this

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<v Speaker 5>because it's so great. But that is a great topic.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you look at the history, we'll just save

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<v Speaker 5>the United States during certain times of extreme strife, trouble,

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<v Speaker 5>world wars, civil wars, that sort of thing, measures have

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<v Speaker 5>been taken that in retrospect, during peace times when all

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<v Speaker 5>the danger is passed, very easy to say that measure

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<v Speaker 5>was unfair, it was mean, it was too much. But

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<v Speaker 5>that happens in history because if you lose the great

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<v Speaker 5>battle with communism, and are you know, feeling the whip

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<v Speaker 5>of your Chinese overlords, but are saying to yourself, well,

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<v Speaker 5>at least we didn't do anything that could be seen

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<v Speaker 5>as races. At least we didn't suspend habeas corpus. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that sort of thing. Well, congratulations, that's just groovy. Good

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<v Speaker 5>for you. But anyway, so where was I? According to

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<v Speaker 5>Chinese military strategist, Beijing can win this in this way,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, Ken. In this way win quote mind superiority

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<v Speaker 5>by cutting off historical memory, deconstructing cultural symbols and perception

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<v Speaker 5>manipulation via propaganda spread on digital platforms like TikTok. All

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<v Speaker 5>of these are quotes from the Chinese themselves. TikTok is

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<v Speaker 5>a means of quote subconscious messaging in which Chinese strategists

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<v Speaker 5>say is more effective than overtly political propaganda and I quote.

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<v Speaker 5>The ultimate goal is to manipulate the country's values and

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<v Speaker 5>achieve strategic goals without an actual overt military battle. In

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<v Speaker 5>an obscure CCP report titled Analysis of Modern Network Media

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<v Speaker 5>Warfare in the Perspective of Intelligent Technology, Beijing's military strategists

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<v Speaker 5>revealed that the best formats and forms of propaganda work

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<v Speaker 5>on young, impressionable people through amusement and I quote and

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<v Speaker 5>you know people say it's dance videos, Take it easy.

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<v Speaker 5>Entertainment is the main motivation for Generation Z content consumption,

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<v Speaker 5>said Pang xing Gang, the deputy director of the Propaganda Department,

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<v Speaker 5>in another strategy paper entitled Research on International Communication Strategies

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<v Speaker 5>and Practice Paths of Generation Z. Entertainment is the main

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<v Speaker 5>motivation for Gen Z con consumption. By better understanding those

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<v Speaker 5>we mean to propagandize, the CCP can explore effective communication

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<v Speaker 5>strategies and paths and improve the ability to set agendas.

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<v Speaker 5>There are a litany of these quotes about how content

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<v Speaker 5>control is becoming more and more important Digital propaganda and

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<v Speaker 5>opinion manipulation and social media platforms quote and found that

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<v Speaker 5>emotional content can easily lead the audience to have the

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<v Speaker 5>illusion of independent thinking and attribute irrational emotions to righteous

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<v Speaker 5>indignation or empathy, which intensifies.

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<v Speaker 1>The value of delusion. In other words, to boil it down.

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<v Speaker 5>They've realized that if you can give impressionable young people

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<v Speaker 5>pleasure or righteous indignation through entertainment vehicles, and then direct

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<v Speaker 5>that entertainment in subtle ways towards shaping their beliefs, it

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<v Speaker 5>will be extremely effective, And they're right, of course, I

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<v Speaker 5>remember talking about the contrast between like Twitter and Facebook

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<v Speaker 5>and Instagram and TikTok attitudes towards the Chinese Communist Party

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<v Speaker 5>beliefs about the wigers in China huge golf in the

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<v Speaker 5>numbers of the users of those various social media platforms.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've I've.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of assumed this whole time that the way out

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<v Speaker 4>of this not very satisfying, but the way out of

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<v Speaker 4>this was somebody else is going to come up with

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<v Speaker 4>something more entertaining or as entertaining or TikTok in the

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<v Speaker 4>way that Facebook obliterated MySpace, that it'll get taken care

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<v Speaker 4>of that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe not. I mean, is the algorithm just something

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<v Speaker 1>we can't replicate? Apparently not.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's like, you know, the iPhone took other

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<v Speaker 5>companies long time to come up with a product that

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<v Speaker 5>was as good. I also, I am kind of amused

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<v Speaker 5>by the argument that we just need to come up

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<v Speaker 5>with a better one and kids will forget about TikTok.

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<v Speaker 5>But meanwhile, and this will be my final quote from

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<v Speaker 5>Peter Schweizer's piece, Oh Whoosit's on this page? Chinese government

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<v Speaker 5>study on online manipulation further noted that online propaganda quote

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<v Speaker 5>is a highly concealed propaganda method and its effect can

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<v Speaker 5>far exceed traditional propaganda. The studies authors say such propaganda

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<v Speaker 5>could even affect the social stability and political security of

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<v Speaker 5>a target country or region.

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<v Speaker 5>they just continue to do it and seem to be

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<v Speaker 5>then he would do it even after he told him

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<v Speaker 5>what he was gonna do. China is that way we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to do, you know, X, Y and Z, this

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<v Speaker 1>There are books out there.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to you know, build islands and tournament into

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<v Speaker 1>All kinds of different things they did. They tell us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like they keep it a secret.

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<v Speaker 4>Our goal is to uh to to take over the

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<v Speaker 4>world and supplant you as the world's only hyperpower.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's our plan, not hiding it. Boy, we're dumb.

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<v Speaker 5>We're big and we're comfortable and we're dumb. Is a superpower?

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting? Well, everyone knows that those you were used TikTok.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't wait till Monday you start talking about Is

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<v Speaker 4>it any different then?

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<v Speaker 1>Or not? A lot? More on the way? Stay with us?

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<v Speaker 6>Armstrong Vice president Kamala Harris is and what are they

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<v Speaker 6>planning to write a book after leaving office?

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<v Speaker 1>Look for it in your bookstores. How not to section.

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<v Speaker 4>I missed?

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<v Speaker 1>This is like based on events.

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<v Speaker 4>I missed the setup who wrote Abamala Harris's new book?

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha? Yeah that makes sense. Yeah. The NFL this weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you very exciting? And there are four games four

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<v Speaker 1>the two.

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<v Speaker 4>Teams with home field throughout the playoffs. Pretty big betting

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<v Speaker 4>odds on there. The Lions are expected to win by

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<v Speaker 4>nine and a half points. The Chiefs are expected to

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<v Speaker 4>win by eight. That's what the betting odds are currently.

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<v Speaker 4>Eagles over the lo Rams by six and a half

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<v Speaker 4>the exciting game that's been going back and forth by

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<v Speaker 4>a point tomorrow, Bill's Ravens up in Buffalo, one point

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<v Speaker 4>this way or that way. I'm really looking forward to

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<v Speaker 4>that game. I'm plan to watch it. But you might

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<v Speaker 4>know if you follow this sort of thing, that the

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<v Speaker 4>halftime show at the super Bowl, that's why they're doing

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<v Speaker 4>these playoffs is to figure out what teams are going

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<v Speaker 4>to play in the super Bowl. The halftime show this

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<v Speaker 4>time around is Kendrick Lamar, which I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know Kendrick Lamar that well. I know he's a

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<v Speaker 4>really big deal. My son is super into Kendrick Lamar.

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<v Speaker 4>That's his kind of music. Yeah, very well thought.

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<v Speaker 5>Of creatively, even among people who are not like hardcore

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<v Speaker 5>hip hop people. He's an artist, definitely, a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>people are just half talented.

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<v Speaker 1>Warblers are called artists.

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<v Speaker 4>So when we go driving around, me and the kids,

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<v Speaker 4>like we are going out to eat and we take

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<v Speaker 4>turns on who has ox, which is a term teenagers use.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's who has access to the music. I get ox.

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<v Speaker 4>It comes from auxiliary a the auxiliary plot, even though

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<v Speaker 4>nobody uses that anymore. It's all bluetooth, but I get

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<v Speaker 4>OX now you had OX last time? Is the way

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<v Speaker 4>he and his high school friends talk if you want

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<v Speaker 4>to sound him. But anyway, my oldest son had Ox

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<v Speaker 4>on the way back from the restaurant, and so he

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<v Speaker 4>plays his stuff. I say, okay, here we go with

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<v Speaker 4>the cop killer rap, and then he was giving him

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<v Speaker 4>crap where's the melody with his various songs. But Kendrick

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<v Speaker 4>Lamar Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe we were listening to

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<v Speaker 4>on the way home featuring Good Kid and m AA

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<v Speaker 4>D City Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe Bykenrick Lamore.

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<v Speaker 1>I just my question was going to be to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever read anything or do you have any

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<v Speaker 4>theories on how musical taste develops, why some people like

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<v Speaker 4>certain stuff and other people like different stuff. I got

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<v Speaker 4>two kids grow up in exactly the same household. The

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<v Speaker 4>younger one basically likes the same music as me. He

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<v Speaker 4>wants to he likes classic rock. He wants to listen

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<v Speaker 4>to the Eagles and Leonard Skinnard and Bachman Turner Overdrive

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<v Speaker 4>and that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>He's thirteen.

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<v Speaker 4>His older brother is all Kendrick Lamar and Ken Carson

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<v Speaker 4>and Cardi Cardi b or cart no different Cardi, Playboy Cardi,

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<v Speaker 4>Playboy Carti and that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And do you have any do you know why you'd

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<v Speaker 5>made up all of those names? I would still be

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<v Speaker 5>sitting here with the same look on my face.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Do you have any idea how people come

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<v Speaker 1>to their tastes? No?

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<v Speaker 4>No, But like with food, don't you kind of assume

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<v Speaker 4>to a certain extent they perceive it differently, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the flavor us upbringing.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it can't be a coincidence that billions of

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<v Speaker 5>Indian kids like Indian food, right, But.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well that on My two kids grew up in

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<v Speaker 4>the same house with the same exposure.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I don't even know how I

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<v Speaker 1>found this stuff in me. Yeah, I don't have any idea.

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<v Speaker 5>That reminds me I came across the woman who has

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<v Speaker 5>my dream job. I mean, it makes this job look

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<v Speaker 5>like digging ditches, which I've also done. Talk about that

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit later on.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a theory there, Katie, I'm just wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>it has to do with his friends, your friend group. Yeah. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's formative years.

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<v Speaker 5>Of forming musical taste, which is probably typically between eight

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<v Speaker 5>and fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's ninety percent of your friend group. What is

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<v Speaker 4>going to make you more popular with the people you

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<v Speaker 4>want to be popular with?

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<v Speaker 1>Pushes you that direction. I could be part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't even know why my musical tastes are

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<v Speaker 1>what they are.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't tell you more analysis from smart people about

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<v Speaker 4>the Supreme Court ruling over TikTok and a bunch of.

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<v Speaker 1>Other stuff Armstrong and Getty Well.

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<v Speaker 6>Brand new CNN poll gives us some insight into how

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<v Speaker 6>Americans are feeling about his return to the White House.

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<v Speaker 6>Look at his favorability. It's at its highest in four years.

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<v Speaker 6>It's at forty six percent, still underwater, but better than

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<v Speaker 6>it's been. When you ask Americans the question will the

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<v Speaker 6>United States be better off in four years from now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well more than half of those polled say yes. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>that's in that poll.

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<v Speaker 4>In many polls, Trump has got the highest favorability he's

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<v Speaker 4>ever had in his political career, which is something heading

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<v Speaker 4>into a new term. I thought this on the back

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<v Speaker 4>of it was pretty damned interesting. Gallop out with their

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<v Speaker 4>political party identification, Are you a Republican or Democrat?

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<v Speaker 1>Those continue to go down, down down downtown. There are few. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>both of them. They're tied at twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Fewer and fewer people want to call themselves either a

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<v Speaker 4>Republican or a Democrat. I mean it's been going down

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<v Speaker 4>my entire adult life. Actually, it's pretty much a straight

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<v Speaker 4>line down since I started voting in the eighties. Fewer

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<v Speaker 4>and fewer people want to be a Republican, our Democrat.

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<v Speaker 4>The number of people who call themselves an independent has

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<v Speaker 4>been going up, up, up, and is now forty three percent.

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<v Speaker 5>You need not be a mathematician to understand we're headn't

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<v Speaker 5>toward below half of people identify with either of the

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<v Speaker 5>quote unquote major parties. I wonder if it's because they're inept,

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<v Speaker 5>corrupt and embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's mostly an emotional thing, right.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't make any difference really, because people are going

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<v Speaker 4>out and voting Republican, our Democrat. We just had a

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<v Speaker 4>presidential election, but then I want to call themselves a

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<v Speaker 4>Republican or a Democrat. Yeah, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 5>It speaks to a need for something different. You would

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<v Speaker 5>think in that environment a third party would emerge, but

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<v Speaker 5>so far it has not. Big ruling from the Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 5>Trump was wanting the whole TikTok ban to not happen

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<v Speaker 5>the day before he becomes president, because his argument was,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to be president, I'm going to be dealing

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<v Speaker 5>with this. Put it off until you know I'm in charge,

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<v Speaker 5>and we'll take a look at it then. But the

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<v Speaker 5>Supreme Court said, nah, it's dan Well. Trump considers himself

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<v Speaker 5>the greatest deal maker in the history of that certainly

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<v Speaker 5>thought he could work out a deal, which you know

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<v Speaker 5>he may have been able to. But the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 5>has spoken rather loudly. As Shannon Breem will inform us here.

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<v Speaker 7>They say this, there's no doubt that for more than

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred and seventy million Americans, TikTok offers a distinctive

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<v Speaker 7>and expansive outlet for expression, means of engagement, and source

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<v Speaker 7>of community. But Congress has determined that divestiture is necessary

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<v Speaker 7>to address its well supported national security concerns regarding TikTok's

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<v Speaker 7>data collection practices and relationship with a foreign adversary. They say, listen,

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<v Speaker 7>this doesn't violate First Amendment rights. And there's a big

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<v Speaker 7>conversation when the hearing was held last week. Vite Edance

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<v Speaker 7>is a foreign entity. It does not have First Amendment rights?

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<v Speaker 7>Why would it?

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<v Speaker 4>Why does every conversation about TikTok have to begin with

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<v Speaker 4>many millions of people enjoy the cat videos and college

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<v Speaker 4>girls twerking.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that's got nothing to do with anything, does it?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I choose one or the other? Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>The headline, which I'm afraid we have buried, is that

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<v Speaker 5>the Supreme Court has ruled this unanimously. They were unanimous

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<v Speaker 5>in their conclusion that Congress could ban the hostile foreign

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<v Speaker 5>ownership of TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we're talking about here now.

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<v Speaker 5>How they got to that conclusion varied a bit among

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<v Speaker 5>the justices, so they have concurring opinions that are agreeing

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<v Speaker 5>while subtly disagreeing. But it was unanimous that yes, Congress

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<v Speaker 5>can do this. It is proper to ban tikety talk unanimous.

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<v Speaker 5>I just get it to ban the hostile foreign ownership

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<v Speaker 5>of TikTok. One more note from a learned observer than

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<v Speaker 5>I have a thought or to turly in twenty nine

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<v Speaker 5>B please Michael.

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<v Speaker 8>But to general thrust of the oral argument was that

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<v Speaker 8>they would let this band stand, and that's going to

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<v Speaker 8>kick this into the political realm or back there where

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<v Speaker 8>President Trump will have to address it. You know, these

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<v Speaker 8>justices tend to view these types of questions as something

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<v Speaker 8>that should be resolved in the legislative and executive branches.

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<v Speaker 8>They try not to get ahead of their skis on

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<v Speaker 8>questions like this. For many of the justices, they were

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<v Speaker 8>faced with the government, including the Biden administration, saying that

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<v Speaker 8>there are serious national security risks here, so they're not

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<v Speaker 8>in a position necessarily just to dismiss those concerns.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're just tuning in, I would beg of you

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<v Speaker 5>to grab the podcast later and listen to the beginning

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<v Speaker 5>of our two of the show today Armstrong and Getty

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<v Speaker 5>on demand. We went over at piece by Peter Schweitzer

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<v Speaker 5>in which he was extensively quoting Communist Party officials, military officials, propagandists,

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<v Speaker 5>intelligence people, talking about how incredibly important and useful TikTok

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<v Speaker 5>is in influencing people of other nations, including the United

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<v Speaker 5>States obviously primarily, and how it is so useful as

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<v Speaker 5>a propaganda tool because it's not perceived as propaganda yet

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<v Speaker 5>can do enormous damage or great stuff. From the perspective

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<v Speaker 5>of the communist Chinese, it's just beyond dispute that we

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<v Speaker 5>are under attack in fifty one hundred different ways from

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<v Speaker 5>the Communist Chinese. And if you as a nation don't

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<v Speaker 5>understand that you're under attack until actual bombs go off,

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<v Speaker 5>you're too dumb to survive as a superpower.

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<v Speaker 4>Well read Pillsbury's book One hundred Year Marathon. They think

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<v Speaker 4>long term in China, and this is a great long

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<v Speaker 4>term plan. We're going to educate their youth to think

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<v Speaker 4>more like we think than way Americans normally think. And

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<v Speaker 4>it takes a deni from history and hate their country,

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<v Speaker 4>But that's fine with us. So I would love to know.

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<v Speaker 4>Since they're not an open society, we don't know. Did

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<v Speaker 4>this happen organically in China?

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<v Speaker 1>Did some?

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<v Speaker 4>Because you can become rich and successful in China your company,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the books have to be open to the

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<v Speaker 4>Communist Party because that's the way everything works there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can become rich and successful. Did some. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a.

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<v Speaker 4>Smart coder in the United States, some Zuckerberg type person

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<v Speaker 4>in China figure out an algorithm for just a really

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<v Speaker 4>good social media app, and then the Chinese Communist Party thought, ah.

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<v Speaker 1>This would be a good way to hook young people.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, did it happen that way, or did they

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<v Speaker 4>set out originally to come up with the best most

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<v Speaker 4>addictive app you can come up with. This is how

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to infiltrate the United States. I wonder which

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<v Speaker 4>happened first. I think you nailed it with the first one. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>it reminds me of what they taught us in scriptwriting

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<v Speaker 4>class back when I was doing that back in the day,

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<v Speaker 4>that if you are trying to write a movie that

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<v Speaker 4>moves people to believe something or other, it's never gonna

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<v Speaker 4>get and people are never gonna watch it because it

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<v Speaker 4>won't be entertaining. Make an entertaining movie, and if there's

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<v Speaker 4>some messaging around the edge is fine. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>they would have come up with something so brilliant if

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<v Speaker 4>it was in the hands of the military.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, you're right. That is almost certainly true.

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<v Speaker 5>But here's here's what you need to know. And again

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<v Speaker 5>we highly recommend Michael Pillsbury's book One hundred Year Marathon.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the other aspects of it that's crazy interesting

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<v Speaker 5>is that there are all these I can't remember the

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<v Speaker 5>eighteen strategies, or I should remember it. It's around here somewhere,

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:39.800
<v Speaker 5>but ancient Chinese wisdom about warfare and strategy, and a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of it has to do with not letting your

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<v Speaker 5>opponent know you're at war with them until you have to.

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<v Speaker 5>Masquerade is a friend, Masquerade is someone cooperating, perhaps a

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<v Speaker 5>trade partner. Deception is to be respected and worshiped and sought.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not me and cheating. How dare they?

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's clever in the Chinese traditions, and that's exactly

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on here. But that was a tangent. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I'll make that say.

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<v Speaker 4>How much of a win did she think it was?

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<v Speaker 4>When the worst virus to hit the planet in a

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<v Speaker 4>century leaks out of their lab and he observed that,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, in the United States, the president of

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<v Speaker 4>the United States is stopping.

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<v Speaker 1>People from claiming it was us. Isn't this awesome?

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<v Speaker 4>He's yelling at Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>nobody says it was our fault.

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<v Speaker 1>This is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, she's in Pink's advisors are probably how did you,

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<v Speaker 5>how did you manage this? A wise one, and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. They're just doing it. They're weird anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>So here's my main point, getting back to your excellent

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<v Speaker 5>question about TikTok. They have a whole of society program

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<v Speaker 5>to bring down the United States and achieve Chinese.

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<v Speaker 1>Supremacy over the globe.

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<v Speaker 5>It's absolutely well known whole of society, so I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>they have an entire bureau full of people that, like

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, scroll through newspapers or TV or social

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<v Speaker 5>media or the financial papers and they go, let's see,

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<v Speaker 5>we've got you know, Hijian Ping's flour mill that makes

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<v Speaker 5>flour for baking bread. Is there anything we can do

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<v Speaker 5>with that? Probably not. I don't see it as very promising. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>let's move on. We've got TikTok. It's a crazy popular

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<v Speaker 5>short video platform that American kids love. Could we do

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<v Speaker 5>anything with that? And obviously the answer was hell, yeah

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<v Speaker 5>we can. Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>So it literally they go through banking, industry, trade, food, media, clothing,

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<v Speaker 5>everything and they assess, how can we utilize this to

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<v Speaker 5>affect our main goal, which is the usurpation of the

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<v Speaker 5>United States, And TikTok is just a gold mine.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're educating they're young people that China is fantastic

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<v Speaker 4>in the savior of the world and the United States

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<v Speaker 4>is evil. We're educating our young people that the United

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<v Speaker 4>States is evil. Yeah, and anything that's not the United

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<v Speaker 4>States is good. That's when they're paying attention to anything

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<v Speaker 4>at all and not just watching videos until it's time

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<v Speaker 4>to go to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>And as they made clear in the Schweitzer piece that

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<v Speaker 5>we cited extensively earlier, they understand that they need to

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<v Speaker 5>be subtle about it. They need to tweak and move

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<v Speaker 5>by inches not feet in yards in terms of changing

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<v Speaker 5>young people's perceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're very, very good at it.

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<v Speaker 5>And again, if you have one hundred year time frame,

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<v Speaker 5>you have the patience to be subtle.

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<v Speaker 4>But final word on TikTok for now. Anyway, I did

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<v Speaker 4>not understand how this would work. You did because you've

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<v Speaker 4>been reading about it, but I wasn't. I thought it

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<v Speaker 4>was just going to like end on Sunday. It will

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<v Speaker 4>be imperceivable when the dedline comes, right, you won't even

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<v Speaker 4>be able to notice any difference for maybe quite some time.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll still be on my phone and you'll still be

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<v Speaker 4>watching videos. Yeah, that's the best understanding I've come to

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<v Speaker 4>it that. Yeah, you just can't download the app anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>And because of the nature of apps and the Internet.

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<v Speaker 4>Change is absolutely inevitable, and at a certain point, the

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<v Speaker 4>amount of change that has to do with how apps

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<v Speaker 4>connect and they function and they process things, it will

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<v Speaker 4>make it unusable. You know how often you update all

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<v Speaker 4>your apps. There won't be an update for TikTok, right,

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<v Speaker 4>so at some point it'll stop working, but it'll happen slowly.

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<v Speaker 4>I was picturing more of a big giant off switch

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<v Speaker 4>and TikTok goes off Sunday. But that's not how what's happening.

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<v Speaker 5>And if I'm Chijin Pang, I've got my best and

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<v Speaker 5>brightest saying, all right, how do we get it into

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<v Speaker 5>the hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the American youngsters? Anyway? What do we do?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Route do we go through? They're working on that like crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and may have a good solution, I'll be darned.

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 4>Senators were a lot more vocal behind the scenes, urging

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Biden not to run. The news is out today,

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<v Speaker 4>as we've predicted around now, people are going to start

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<v Speaker 4>running to Mark Alprin had a great podcast yesterday, the

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<v Speaker 4>four million dollar question. He was calling it, who are

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<v Speaker 4>the first biggest people to turn and run to book

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<v Speaker 4>publishers to have the book written about all the things

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<v Speaker 4>that were going on? Is it common delicious? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>who is it going to be? Because there are going

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<v Speaker 4>to be a bunch of people anyway. We got some

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<v Speaker 4>of that. We'll get into an hour three and other

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<v Speaker 4>stuff on the way Armstrong, Hetty.

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<v Speaker 9>The counselor says they're taking a month off for emotional

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<v Speaker 9>and mental safety? Was your city councilor at large? Two

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<v Speaker 9>new end uses the pronouns they them. The counselor accuses

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<v Speaker 9>the mayor and another counselor of referring to them in

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<v Speaker 9>a way that does not reflect their gender identity. Now

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<v Speaker 9>new When has filed a complaint with the city's Office

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<v Speaker 9>of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, and investigation is underway. Last

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<v Speaker 9>night at the council meeting, new When said they didn't

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<v Speaker 9>feel safe come into.

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<v Speaker 1>The council floor. One of the counselors.

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<v Speaker 9>Knew when accused, did issue a statement essentially saying that

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<v Speaker 9>she referred to the counsel or in a way that

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<v Speaker 9>was an honest mistake, and she apologized.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a woman who says she was misgendered. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know which direction this is, but a person who says

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<v Speaker 4>they were misgendered and now needs a month off to

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<v Speaker 4>feel safe.

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<v Speaker 5>We gotta stop me too, me too, I feel completely unsafe. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>we gotta see in February.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to quit acting like mental illness as something

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<v Speaker 4>to be coddled or described in any way other than

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<v Speaker 4>your mentally ill. You might need a month off because

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<v Speaker 4>you're mentally ill, maybe you need to be in a

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<v Speaker 4>hospital or something like that. But you're mentally ill, paranoid, schizophrenic,

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<v Speaker 4>or you're you're depressed or something, But you're like clinically

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<v Speaker 4>diagnosably mentally ill is the thing. It's not you were

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<v Speaker 4>misgendered and you need a month off. That's not the story. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we used to treat mental illness, not affirm it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, can you imagine what.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you do that whole month? Get up a weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd get up and say, am I okay they called

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<v Speaker 4>me a dude when I'm a chick or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, and I'm still honor right, I better go

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<v Speaker 4>back to back.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, what's even funnier really is that they called him

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<v Speaker 5>a dude when he is a dude.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the crime. Oh well right, yeah, so but

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<v Speaker 4>he presents as.

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<v Speaker 1>A they them it right. Okay, So that's that story.

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<v Speaker 4>Update you on another story that we had the drunken

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<v Speaker 4>Southwest pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>We now know more, but we heard what we did.

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<v Speaker 4>Get a text from a pilot about the whole eight

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<v Speaker 4>hours Bottle to throttle is the guideline. So eight hours

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<v Speaker 4>between your last tip it a bottle in your mouth

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<v Speaker 4>and when you're supposed to grab the throttle, bottle of throttle.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if this guy did it or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's find out. Clip twenty four Michael so I downloaded

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<v Speaker 4>Red Note.

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<v Speaker 10>And pilot David Allsop was taken into custody. The TSA

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<v Speaker 10>says an officer contacted law enforcement reporting an individual in

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<v Speaker 10>the crew screening lane who smelled of alcohol and appeared intoxicated.

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<v Speaker 1>The flight was.

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<v Speaker 10>Scheduled for a six oh five am take off to Chicago.

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<v Speaker 10>According to the police report, Allsop was seated in the

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<v Speaker 10>cockpit performing pre flight checks, the arresting officer saying he

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<v Speaker 10>detected a strong odor of what seemed to be alcohol,

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<v Speaker 10>adding Allsop claimed he last drank last night and had

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<v Speaker 10>a few light beers. They conducted a sobriety test there

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<v Speaker 10>on the jet bridge, an officer saying Allsop failed and

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<v Speaker 10>refused a state mandated blood test. Federal regulations banned pilots

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<v Speaker 10>from consuming alcohol within eight hours of a flight takeoff.

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<v Speaker 10>Southwest Airlines tells ABC this pilot has been removed from duty.

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<v Speaker 4>He is going through his pre flight checklist. Uh, do

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<v Speaker 4>I have a vomit bag? Do I have a big

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<v Speaker 4>greasy burger because I'm gonna need that.

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<v Speaker 1>You get some snacks? I get some?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh so, still still drunk from the night before is

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<v Speaker 4>almost certainly what that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Closed her down at two or later. And then.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, man, you don't have the right stuff to fly

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<v Speaker 5>for a major airline. Goodbye, good luck in your future endeavors.

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<v Speaker 1>It's terrible. Yeah, the end of his career.

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<v Speaker 5>But I met playing Chicago directly on Rush Street. Run

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<v Speaker 5>into some bargain a double bourbon. Not in the party going.

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<v Speaker 5>Who did the Were the passengers aware of this?

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if they were told. They probably just told

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<v Speaker 4>there was an issue with the there's an issue with

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<v Speaker 4>the crew, and we're going to have to Uh uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, sit here for four hours and not

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<v Speaker 4>tell you anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Get backup crew in a bit of a scheduling staff

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<v Speaker 5>who hope everybody's comfortable sitting here on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Tarmac for hours.

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<v Speaker 4>Pilot was drunk off his a and and so we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to get you a new pilot. He was, He

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<v Speaker 4>was torking his way down the rimp and hitting on

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<v Speaker 4>all the stewardesses.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we're gonna get a new pilot.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, you have advocated in the past for a passenger

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<v Speaker 5>vote before you turned back, and we've got a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of a problem with the lavatory.

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<v Speaker 4>To Oklahoma City on time. Bring him out here, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>question him. I'll see if I think he's drunk enough

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<v Speaker 4>to fly or not, because yeah, you don't want him

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<v Speaker 4>to drunk drunk, but if he's just a little buzz

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<v Speaker 4>he can fly the plane.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait a minute, the co pilot's young, healthy and stone

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<v Speaker 5>cold sober. I say we roll the dice. Let's tax.

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<v Speaker 5>That is the way to do it. A passenger vote.

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<v Speaker 5>I do want to return to the gender bending madness

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<v Speaker 5>story about that city council person.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a more serious side to that.

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<v Speaker 5>Perhaps next hour more on the TikTok band decision.

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<v Speaker 4>People are starting to talk about Joe Biden's mental state

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<v Speaker 4>in a way they have not before.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so freaking good. You got to stick around

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<v Speaker 1>four hour three Armstrong and Getty