Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty at
Speaker 2: ten o two East Coast time.
Speaker 3: We have a ruling from the US Supreme Court on
Speaker 3: the popular app known as TikTok. The Supreme Court upholds
Speaker 3: the law that was passed by Congress in a bipartisan manner,
Speaker 3: signed in the law by Joe Biden last April to
Speaker 3: find a new buyer within two hundred and seventy days.
Speaker 3: The Supreme Court has now ruled that that law stands.
Speaker 3: What happens to the app, however, is.
Speaker 1: A wide open question.
Speaker 4: So this is just happening now, and we were planning
Speaker 4: to talk about TikTok anyway.
Speaker 1: What does this mean? Joe?
Speaker 5: Well, as always, I want to point out, it's a
Speaker 5: ban on the Chinese ownership of the social media app
Speaker 5: because they are a hostile power. That's what the law says.
Speaker 5: Supreme Court upheld the ban quote. There's no doubt that
Speaker 5: TikTok offers a distinctive and expansive outlet for expression, means
Speaker 5: of engagement, and source of community. But Congress has determined
Speaker 5: that devestiture is necessary to address it's well supported national
Speaker 5: security concerns regarding TikTok's data collection practices and relationship with
Speaker 5: a foreign adversary. For the foregoing reasons, we conclude that
Speaker 5: the challenge provisions do not violate petitioners First Amendment rights.
Speaker 5: Just as Soda Mayor has an opinion concurring in part
Speaker 5: she thinks it does touch on the First Amendment, some
Speaker 5: gorstch concurs in the judgment that is the result.
Speaker 1: What was the ruling? M miss that. What was the number?
Speaker 1: Do we know? Oh?
Speaker 5: I don't have that number. There are various concurring opinions.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it's not always like six to three. Sometimes
Speaker 5: it's four plus one plus one to three, if you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Because they partially agree with each
Speaker 5: other anyway, So yeah, TikTok must divest itself from its
Speaker 5: Chinese overlords if it wants to keep doing business in
Speaker 5: the United States, Thank goodness.
Speaker 4: In two hundred and whatever day starting Sunday or did
Speaker 4: that start a long time ago?
Speaker 1: And the deal and the time is up on Sunday.
Speaker 5: The time is running out. I think, Yeah, it's up
Speaker 5: on Sunday. So that was a last minute of yours.
Speaker 5: And you know what, Listen, I don't want to court
Speaker 5: a fight with hardcore Trump supporters, and y'all are absolutely
Speaker 5: welcome any time, and sometimes we'll agree, sometimes we'll disagree,
Speaker 5: and that's fine.
Speaker 1: We can still be friends. But Trump's jumping in and.
Speaker 5: Saying, yeah, maybe I can say, well, I can work
Speaker 5: out a deal because TikTok's been good to me and
Speaker 5: they helped me get elected. I'm sorry, no, no, not
Speaker 5: going there. And the Supreme Court is not going to
Speaker 5: let it happen either. So this is by fifty times
Speaker 5: the most significant thing you will hear about out the
Speaker 5: question of TikTok and its Chinese ownership. Peter Schweitzer as
Speaker 5: always doing some great writing. It was published in Breitbart,
Speaker 5: and you know, Breitbart primarily does a very very good job.
Speaker 5: It's disappointing to me that this will not be heard
Speaker 5: more widely. But he has dug deep and long into
Speaker 5: available documents, speeches, memos, etc.
Speaker 1: From the Chinese.
Speaker 5: Communists, and the title of the article is why Beijing
Speaker 5: wants Americans to keep using TikTok, And he talks about
Speaker 5: how everyone's talking about the potential ban and weighing in
Speaker 5: with friends of the court, briefs and statements and the
Speaker 5: rest of it. From Trump to Mike Pence to nearly
Speaker 5: two dozen state attorneys general blah blah blah. But there's
Speaker 5: none of their opinion, Schweitzer rights from a source to
Speaker 5: the court, will not hear from the Chinese Communist Party,
Speaker 5: what do they think? Very few are talking about what
Speaker 5: the Communists in Beijing think of the looming TikTok decision.
Speaker 5: China is wielding. TikTok is a weapon wage unders diricted
Speaker 5: warfare on the US. That is why the Chinese CCP
Speaker 5: views TikTok as a quote modern day trojan horse, that's
Speaker 5: their quote, and classified its powerful algorithm is a top
Speaker 5: secret quote national security asset.
Speaker 4: I believe maybe she listens to the Armstrong and Getty
Speaker 4: show or gets the podcast. I believe we called it
Speaker 4: a trojan horse and talked about how it makes the
Speaker 4: original trojan horse seem like nothing. Oh, the original wooden
Speaker 4: trojan horse pushed in there. Okay, some warriors jumped on.
Speaker 4: That's not like re educating your youth for the next
Speaker 4: several generations.
Speaker 5: Though in the Comi zone, words TikTok's constant stream of
Speaker 5: short and over stimulating videos make for a powerfully addictive
Speaker 5: source of propaganda. In a restricted Chinese academic journal, Colonel Deju,
Speaker 5: a professor at China's top military academy, wrote that the
Speaker 5: real battle between the US and China is quote information
Speaker 5: driven mental warfare. A separate journal, he said, Younger People's
Speaker 5: Liberation Army propagandists and increasingly realize the popularity of short
Speaker 5: videos online, and TikTok is the best example of this
Speaker 5: so far. He's talking about Red Army propagandists and how
Speaker 5: valuable they think TikTok is leading the Chinese People's Liberation
Speaker 5: Army in the future, will refer to it as the
Speaker 5: PLA strategist Zeng Hufeng argues that the CCP must use
Speaker 5: quote information and popular spiritual and cultural products as weapons
Speaker 5: to influence people's psychology, will attitude, behavior, and even change
Speaker 5: the ideology, values, cultural traditions, and social systems. According to Zeng,
Speaker 5: these cultural tools, including apps, video games, et cetera, should
Speaker 5: be used quote to target individuals, groups, countries, and even
Speaker 5: people around the world.
Speaker 4: They are obviously, have been, and we're planning to continue
Speaker 4: using our freedom against us the one hundred percent the
Speaker 4: battle between democracies and authoritarian regimes. Sometimes you hear it
Speaker 4: argued as to like, which is better for the people?
Speaker 4: You people are crazy. I mean, it's not even a
Speaker 4: close call. Democracies are better for human beings. Then I
Speaker 4: don't care if they can build bridges more efficiently and
Speaker 4: quickly or whatever. But in terms of which system is
Speaker 4: going to win, which is going which is better in
Speaker 4: terms of dominating the world, I'm not certain in the
Speaker 4: modern techno era, where you can reach across borders, that
Speaker 4: the free countries can survive ahead of the.
Speaker 1: Mean countries.
Speaker 5: I want to get back to the text of this
Speaker 5: because it's so great. But that is a great topic.
Speaker 5: And if you look at the history, we'll just save
Speaker 5: the United States during certain times of extreme strife, trouble,
Speaker 5: world wars, civil wars, that sort of thing, measures have
Speaker 5: been taken that in retrospect, during peace times when all
Speaker 5: the danger is passed, very easy to say that measure
Speaker 5: was unfair, it was mean, it was too much. But
Speaker 5: that happens in history because if you lose the great
Speaker 5: battle with communism, and are you know, feeling the whip
Speaker 5: of your Chinese overlords, but are saying to yourself, well,
Speaker 5: at least we didn't do anything that could be seen
Speaker 5: as races. At least we didn't suspend habeas corpus. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: that sort of thing. Well, congratulations, that's just groovy. Good
Speaker 5: for you. But anyway, so where was I? According to
Speaker 5: Chinese military strategist, Beijing can win this in this way,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Ken. In this way win quote mind superiority
Speaker 5: by cutting off historical memory, deconstructing cultural symbols and perception
Speaker 5: manipulation via propaganda spread on digital platforms like TikTok. All
Speaker 5: of these are quotes from the Chinese themselves. TikTok is
Speaker 5: a means of quote subconscious messaging in which Chinese strategists
Speaker 5: say is more effective than overtly political propaganda and I quote.
Speaker 5: The ultimate goal is to manipulate the country's values and
Speaker 5: achieve strategic goals without an actual overt military battle. In
Speaker 5: an obscure CCP report titled Analysis of Modern Network Media
Speaker 5: Warfare in the Perspective of Intelligent Technology, Beijing's military strategists
Speaker 5: revealed that the best formats and forms of propaganda work
Speaker 5: on young, impressionable people through amusement and I quote and
Speaker 5: you know people say it's dance videos, Take it easy.
Speaker 5: Entertainment is the main motivation for Generation Z content consumption,
Speaker 5: said Pang xing Gang, the deputy director of the Propaganda Department,
Speaker 5: in another strategy paper entitled Research on International Communication Strategies
Speaker 5: and Practice Paths of Generation Z. Entertainment is the main
Speaker 5: motivation for Gen Z con consumption. By better understanding those
Speaker 5: we mean to propagandize, the CCP can explore effective communication
Speaker 5: strategies and paths and improve the ability to set agendas.
Speaker 5: There are a litany of these quotes about how content
Speaker 5: control is becoming more and more important Digital propaganda and
Speaker 5: opinion manipulation and social media platforms quote and found that
Speaker 5: emotional content can easily lead the audience to have the
Speaker 5: illusion of independent thinking and attribute irrational emotions to righteous
Speaker 5: indignation or empathy, which intensifies.
Speaker 1: The value of delusion. In other words, to boil it down.
Speaker 5: They've realized that if you can give impressionable young people
Speaker 5: pleasure or righteous indignation through entertainment vehicles, and then direct
Speaker 5: that entertainment in subtle ways towards shaping their beliefs, it
Speaker 5: will be extremely effective, And they're right, of course, I
Speaker 5: remember talking about the contrast between like Twitter and Facebook
Speaker 5: and Instagram and TikTok attitudes towards the Chinese Communist Party
Speaker 5: beliefs about the wigers in China huge golf in the
Speaker 5: numbers of the users of those various social media platforms.
Speaker 1: So I've I've.
Speaker 4: Kind of assumed this whole time that the way out
Speaker 4: of this not very satisfying, but the way out of
Speaker 4: this was somebody else is going to come up with
Speaker 4: something more entertaining or as entertaining or TikTok in the
Speaker 4: way that Facebook obliterated MySpace, that it'll get taken care
Speaker 4: of that way.
Speaker 1: But maybe not. I mean, is the algorithm just something
Speaker 1: we can't replicate? Apparently not.
Speaker 5: I mean it's like, you know, the iPhone took other
Speaker 5: companies long time to come up with a product that
Speaker 5: was as good. I also, I am kind of amused
Speaker 5: by the argument that we just need to come up
Speaker 5: with a better one and kids will forget about TikTok.
Speaker 5: But meanwhile, and this will be my final quote from
Speaker 5: Peter Schweizer's piece, Oh Whoosit's on this page? Chinese government
Speaker 5: study on online manipulation further noted that online propaganda quote
Speaker 5: is a highly concealed propaganda method and its effect can
Speaker 5: far exceed traditional propaganda. The studies authors say such propaganda
Speaker 5: could even affect the social stability and political security of
Speaker 5: a target country or region.
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Speaker 5: the world. I don't has an enemy ever announced what
Speaker 5: they're going to do the way China is, and then
Speaker 5: they just continue to do it and seem to be
Speaker 5: fairly six well. Like Larry Bird would say, Okay, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna get the ball before the play would start and
Speaker 5: say I'm gonna fake left, I'm gonna move right, and
Speaker 5: then I'm gonna lay it up in your face, and
Speaker 5: then he would do it even after he told him
Speaker 5: what he was gonna do. China is that way we're
Speaker 5: going to do, you know, X, Y and Z, this
Speaker 5: is our plan.
Speaker 1: There are books out there.
Speaker 4: We're going to you know, build islands and tournament into
Speaker 4: military bases and use TikTok to educate your youth and.
Speaker 1: All kinds of different things they did. They tell us.
Speaker 1: It's not like they keep it a secret.
Speaker 4: Our goal is to uh to to take over the
Speaker 4: world and supplant you as the world's only hyperpower.
Speaker 1: That's that's our plan, not hiding it. Boy, we're dumb.
Speaker 5: We're big and we're comfortable and we're dumb. Is a superpower?
Speaker 1: Interesting? Well, everyone knows that those you were used TikTok.
Speaker 4: I can't wait till Monday you start talking about Is
Speaker 4: it any different then?
Speaker 1: Or not? A lot? More on the way? Stay with us?
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Speaker 6: planning to write a book after leaving office?
Speaker 1: Look for it in your bookstores. How not to section.
Speaker 4: I missed?
Speaker 1: This is like based on events.
Speaker 4: I missed the setup who wrote Abamala Harris's new book?
Speaker 1: Gotcha? Yeah that makes sense. Yeah. The NFL this weekend?
Speaker 1: Are you very exciting? And there are four games four
Speaker 1: the two.
Speaker 4: Teams with home field throughout the playoffs. Pretty big betting
Speaker 4: odds on there. The Lions are expected to win by
Speaker 4: nine and a half points. The Chiefs are expected to
Speaker 4: win by eight. That's what the betting odds are currently.
Speaker 4: Eagles over the lo Rams by six and a half
Speaker 4: the exciting game that's been going back and forth by
Speaker 4: a point tomorrow, Bill's Ravens up in Buffalo, one point
Speaker 4: this way or that way. I'm really looking forward to
Speaker 4: that game. I'm plan to watch it. But you might
Speaker 4: know if you follow this sort of thing, that the
Speaker 4: halftime show at the super Bowl, that's why they're doing
Speaker 4: these playoffs is to figure out what teams are going
Speaker 4: to play in the super Bowl. The halftime show this
Speaker 4: time around is Kendrick Lamar, which I don't know. I
Speaker 4: don't know Kendrick Lamar that well. I know he's a
Speaker 4: really big deal. My son is super into Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 4: That's his kind of music. Yeah, very well thought.
Speaker 5: Of creatively, even among people who are not like hardcore
Speaker 5: hip hop people. He's an artist, definitely, a lot of
Speaker 5: people are just half talented.
Speaker 1: Warblers are called artists.
Speaker 4: So when we go driving around, me and the kids,
Speaker 4: like we are going out to eat and we take
Speaker 4: turns on who has ox, which is a term teenagers use.
Speaker 4: That's that's who has access to the music. I get ox.
Speaker 4: It comes from auxiliary a the auxiliary plot, even though
Speaker 4: nobody uses that anymore. It's all bluetooth, but I get
Speaker 4: OX now you had OX last time? Is the way
Speaker 4: he and his high school friends talk if you want
Speaker 4: to sound him. But anyway, my oldest son had Ox
Speaker 4: on the way back from the restaurant, and so he
Speaker 4: plays his stuff. I say, okay, here we go with
Speaker 4: the cop killer rap, and then he was giving him
Speaker 4: crap where's the melody with his various songs. But Kendrick
Speaker 4: Lamar Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe we were listening to
Speaker 4: on the way home featuring Good Kid and m AA
Speaker 4: D City Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe Bykenrick Lamore.
Speaker 1: I just my question was going to be to you.
Speaker 4: Have you ever read anything or do you have any
Speaker 4: theories on how musical taste develops, why some people like
Speaker 4: certain stuff and other people like different stuff. I got
Speaker 4: two kids grow up in exactly the same household. The
Speaker 4: younger one basically likes the same music as me. He
Speaker 4: wants to he likes classic rock. He wants to listen
Speaker 4: to the Eagles and Leonard Skinnard and Bachman Turner Overdrive
Speaker 4: and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: He's thirteen.
Speaker 4: His older brother is all Kendrick Lamar and Ken Carson
Speaker 4: and Cardi Cardi b or cart no different Cardi, Playboy Cardi,
Speaker 4: Playboy Carti and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 5: And do you have any do you know why you'd
Speaker 5: made up all of those names? I would still be
Speaker 5: sitting here with the same look on my face.
Speaker 1: I know. Do you have any idea how people come
Speaker 1: to their tastes? No?
Speaker 4: No, But like with food, don't you kind of assume
Speaker 4: to a certain extent they perceive it differently, like.
Speaker 1: Yes, the flavor us upbringing.
Speaker 5: I mean, it can't be a coincidence that billions of
Speaker 5: Indian kids like Indian food, right, But.
Speaker 4: Okay, well that on My two kids grew up in
Speaker 4: the same house with the same exposure.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't even know how I
Speaker 1: found this stuff in me. Yeah, I don't have any idea.
Speaker 5: That reminds me I came across the woman who has
Speaker 5: my dream job. I mean, it makes this job look
Speaker 5: like digging ditches, which I've also done. Talk about that
Speaker 5: a little bit later on.
Speaker 1: You have a theory there, Katie, I'm just wondering if
Speaker 1: it has to do with his friends, your friend group. Yeah. Sure,
Speaker 1: maybe that's formative years.
Speaker 5: Of forming musical taste, which is probably typically between eight
Speaker 5: and fifteen.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's ninety percent of your friend group. What is
Speaker 4: going to make you more popular with the people you
Speaker 4: want to be popular with?
Speaker 1: Pushes you that direction. I could be part of it.
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know why my musical tastes are
Speaker 1: what they are.
Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you more analysis from smart people about
Speaker 4: the Supreme Court ruling over TikTok and a bunch of.
Speaker 1: Other stuff Armstrong and Getty Well.
Speaker 6: Brand new CNN poll gives us some insight into how
Speaker 6: Americans are feeling about his return to the White House.
Speaker 6: Look at his favorability. It's at its highest in four years.
Speaker 6: It's at forty six percent, still underwater, but better than
Speaker 6: it's been. When you ask Americans the question will the
Speaker 6: United States be better off in four years from now?
Speaker 1: Well more than half of those polled say yes. Uh
Speaker 1: that's in that poll.
Speaker 4: In many polls, Trump has got the highest favorability he's
Speaker 4: ever had in his political career, which is something heading
Speaker 4: into a new term. I thought this on the back
Speaker 4: of it was pretty damned interesting. Gallop out with their
Speaker 4: political party identification, Are you a Republican or Democrat?
Speaker 1: Those continue to go down, down down downtown. There are few. Yeah,
Speaker 1: both of them. They're tied at twenty eight.
Speaker 4: Fewer and fewer people want to call themselves either a
Speaker 4: Republican or a Democrat. I mean it's been going down
Speaker 4: my entire adult life. Actually, it's pretty much a straight
Speaker 4: line down since I started voting in the eighties. Fewer
Speaker 4: and fewer people want to be a Republican, our Democrat.
Speaker 4: The number of people who call themselves an independent has
Speaker 4: been going up, up, up, and is now forty three percent.
Speaker 5: You need not be a mathematician to understand we're headn't
Speaker 5: toward below half of people identify with either of the
Speaker 5: quote unquote major parties. I wonder if it's because they're inept,
Speaker 5: corrupt and embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's mostly an emotional thing, right.
Speaker 4: It doesn't make any difference really, because people are going
Speaker 4: out and voting Republican, our Democrat. We just had a
Speaker 4: presidential election, but then I want to call themselves a
Speaker 4: Republican or a Democrat. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 5: It speaks to a need for something different. You would
Speaker 5: think in that environment a third party would emerge, but
Speaker 5: so far it has not. Big ruling from the Supreme Court,
Speaker 5: Trump was wanting the whole TikTok ban to not happen
Speaker 5: the day before he becomes president, because his argument was,
Speaker 5: I'm going to be president, I'm going to be dealing
Speaker 5: with this. Put it off until you know I'm in charge,
Speaker 5: and we'll take a look at it then. But the
Speaker 5: Supreme Court said, nah, it's dan Well. Trump considers himself
Speaker 5: the greatest deal maker in the history of that certainly
Speaker 5: thought he could work out a deal, which you know
Speaker 5: he may have been able to. But the Supreme Court
Speaker 5: has spoken rather loudly. As Shannon Breem will inform us here.
Speaker 7: They say this, there's no doubt that for more than
Speaker 7: one hundred and seventy million Americans, TikTok offers a distinctive
Speaker 7: and expansive outlet for expression, means of engagement, and source
Speaker 7: of community. But Congress has determined that divestiture is necessary
Speaker 7: to address its well supported national security concerns regarding TikTok's
Speaker 7: data collection practices and relationship with a foreign adversary. They say, listen,
Speaker 7: this doesn't violate First Amendment rights. And there's a big
Speaker 7: conversation when the hearing was held last week. Vite Edance
Speaker 7: is a foreign entity. It does not have First Amendment rights?
Speaker 7: Why would it?
Speaker 4: Why does every conversation about TikTok have to begin with
Speaker 4: many millions of people enjoy the cat videos and college
Speaker 4: girls twerking.
Speaker 1: We know that's got nothing to do with anything, does it?
Speaker 1: Can I choose one or the other? Yes.
Speaker 5: The headline, which I'm afraid we have buried, is that
Speaker 5: the Supreme Court has ruled this unanimously. They were unanimous
Speaker 5: in their conclusion that Congress could ban the hostile foreign
Speaker 5: ownership of TikTok.
Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about here now.
Speaker 5: How they got to that conclusion varied a bit among
Speaker 5: the justices, so they have concurring opinions that are agreeing
Speaker 5: while subtly disagreeing. But it was unanimous that yes, Congress
Speaker 5: can do this. It is proper to ban tikety talk unanimous.
Speaker 5: I just get it to ban the hostile foreign ownership
Speaker 5: of TikTok. One more note from a learned observer than
Speaker 5: I have a thought or to turly in twenty nine
Speaker 5: B please Michael.
Speaker 8: But to general thrust of the oral argument was that
Speaker 8: they would let this band stand, and that's going to
Speaker 8: kick this into the political realm or back there where
Speaker 8: President Trump will have to address it. You know, these
Speaker 8: justices tend to view these types of questions as something
Speaker 8: that should be resolved in the legislative and executive branches.
Speaker 8: They try not to get ahead of their skis on
Speaker 8: questions like this. For many of the justices, they were
Speaker 8: faced with the government, including the Biden administration, saying that
Speaker 8: there are serious national security risks here, so they're not
Speaker 8: in a position necessarily just to dismiss those concerns.
Speaker 5: If you're just tuning in, I would beg of you
Speaker 5: to grab the podcast later and listen to the beginning
Speaker 5: of our two of the show today Armstrong and Getty
Speaker 5: on demand. We went over at piece by Peter Schweitzer
Speaker 5: in which he was extensively quoting Communist Party officials, military officials, propagandists,
Speaker 5: intelligence people, talking about how incredibly important and useful TikTok
Speaker 5: is in influencing people of other nations, including the United
Speaker 5: States obviously primarily, and how it is so useful as
Speaker 5: a propaganda tool because it's not perceived as propaganda yet
Speaker 5: can do enormous damage or great stuff. From the perspective
Speaker 5: of the communist Chinese, it's just beyond dispute that we
Speaker 5: are under attack in fifty one hundred different ways from
Speaker 5: the Communist Chinese. And if you as a nation don't
Speaker 5: understand that you're under attack until actual bombs go off,
Speaker 5: you're too dumb to survive as a superpower.
Speaker 4: Well read Pillsbury's book One hundred Year Marathon. They think
Speaker 4: long term in China, and this is a great long
Speaker 4: term plan. We're going to educate their youth to think
Speaker 4: more like we think than way Americans normally think. And
Speaker 4: it takes a deni from history and hate their country,
Speaker 4: But that's fine with us. So I would love to know.
Speaker 4: Since they're not an open society, we don't know. Did
Speaker 4: this happen organically in China?
Speaker 1: Did some?
Speaker 4: Because you can become rich and successful in China your company,
Speaker 4: you know, the books have to be open to the
Speaker 4: Communist Party because that's the way everything works there.
Speaker 1: But you can become rich and successful. Did some. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a.
Speaker 4: Smart coder in the United States, some Zuckerberg type person
Speaker 4: in China figure out an algorithm for just a really
Speaker 4: good social media app, and then the Chinese Communist Party thought, ah.
Speaker 1: This would be a good way to hook young people.
Speaker 4: I mean, did it happen that way, or did they
Speaker 4: set out originally to come up with the best most
Speaker 4: addictive app you can come up with. This is how
Speaker 4: we're going to infiltrate the United States. I wonder which
Speaker 4: happened first. I think you nailed it with the first one. Honestly,
Speaker 4: it reminds me of what they taught us in scriptwriting
Speaker 4: class back when I was doing that back in the day,
Speaker 4: that if you are trying to write a movie that
Speaker 4: moves people to believe something or other, it's never gonna
Speaker 4: get and people are never gonna watch it because it
Speaker 4: won't be entertaining. Make an entertaining movie, and if there's
Speaker 4: some messaging around the edge is fine. I don't think
Speaker 4: they would have come up with something so brilliant if
Speaker 4: it was in the hands of the military.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right. That is almost certainly true.
Speaker 5: But here's here's what you need to know. And again
Speaker 5: we highly recommend Michael Pillsbury's book One hundred Year Marathon.
Speaker 5: One of the other aspects of it that's crazy interesting
Speaker 5: is that there are all these I can't remember the
Speaker 5: eighteen strategies, or I should remember it. It's around here somewhere,
Speaker 5: but ancient Chinese wisdom about warfare and strategy, and a
Speaker 5: lot of it has to do with not letting your
Speaker 5: opponent know you're at war with them until you have to.
Speaker 5: Masquerade is a friend, Masquerade is someone cooperating, perhaps a
Speaker 5: trade partner. Deception is to be respected and worshiped and sought.
Speaker 1: It's not me and cheating. How dare they?
Speaker 5: No, it's clever in the Chinese traditions, and that's exactly
Speaker 5: what's going on here. But that was a tangent. Go ahead,
Speaker 5: and then I'll make that say.
Speaker 4: How much of a win did she think it was?
Speaker 4: When the worst virus to hit the planet in a
Speaker 4: century leaks out of their lab and he observed that,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, in the United States, the president of
Speaker 4: the United States is stopping.
Speaker 1: People from claiming it was us. Isn't this awesome?
Speaker 4: He's yelling at Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook to make sure
Speaker 4: nobody says it was our fault.
Speaker 1: This is fantastic.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, she's in Pink's advisors are probably how did you,
Speaker 5: how did you manage this? A wise one, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know. They're just doing it. They're weird anyway.
Speaker 5: So here's my main point, getting back to your excellent
Speaker 5: question about TikTok. They have a whole of society program
Speaker 5: to bring down the United States and achieve Chinese.
Speaker 1: Supremacy over the globe.
Speaker 5: It's absolutely well known whole of society, so I'm sure
Speaker 5: they have an entire bureau full of people that, like
Speaker 5: I don't know, scroll through newspapers or TV or social
Speaker 5: media or the financial papers and they go, let's see,
Speaker 5: we've got you know, Hijian Ping's flour mill that makes
Speaker 5: flour for baking bread. Is there anything we can do
Speaker 5: with that? Probably not. I don't see it as very promising. Okay,
Speaker 5: let's move on. We've got TikTok. It's a crazy popular
Speaker 5: short video platform that American kids love. Could we do
Speaker 5: anything with that? And obviously the answer was hell, yeah
Speaker 5: we can. Are you kidding?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: So it literally they go through banking, industry, trade, food, media, clothing,
Speaker 5: everything and they assess, how can we utilize this to
Speaker 5: affect our main goal, which is the usurpation of the
Speaker 5: United States, And TikTok is just a gold mine.
Speaker 4: And they're educating they're young people that China is fantastic
Speaker 4: in the savior of the world and the United States
Speaker 4: is evil. We're educating our young people that the United
Speaker 4: States is evil. Yeah, and anything that's not the United
Speaker 4: States is good. That's when they're paying attention to anything
Speaker 4: at all and not just watching videos until it's time
Speaker 4: to go to bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.
Speaker 5: And as they made clear in the Schweitzer piece that
Speaker 5: we cited extensively earlier, they understand that they need to
Speaker 5: be subtle about it. They need to tweak and move
Speaker 5: by inches not feet in yards in terms of changing
Speaker 5: young people's perceptions.
Speaker 1: But they're very, very good at it.
Speaker 5: And again, if you have one hundred year time frame,
Speaker 5: you have the patience to be subtle.
Speaker 4: But final word on TikTok for now. Anyway, I did
Speaker 4: not understand how this would work. You did because you've
Speaker 4: been reading about it, but I wasn't. I thought it
Speaker 4: was just going to like end on Sunday. It will
Speaker 4: be imperceivable when the dedline comes, right, you won't even
Speaker 4: be able to notice any difference for maybe quite some time.
Speaker 4: It'll still be on my phone and you'll still be
Speaker 4: watching videos. Yeah, that's the best understanding I've come to
Speaker 4: it that. Yeah, you just can't download the app anymore.
Speaker 4: And because of the nature of apps and the Internet.
Speaker 4: Change is absolutely inevitable, and at a certain point, the
Speaker 4: amount of change that has to do with how apps
Speaker 4: connect and they function and they process things, it will
Speaker 4: make it unusable. You know how often you update all
Speaker 4: your apps. There won't be an update for TikTok, right,
Speaker 4: so at some point it'll stop working, but it'll happen slowly.
Speaker 4: I was picturing more of a big giant off switch
Speaker 4: and TikTok goes off Sunday. But that's not how what's happening.
Speaker 5: And if I'm Chijin Pang, I've got my best and
Speaker 5: brightest saying, all right, how do we get it into
Speaker 5: the hands.
Speaker 1: Of the American youngsters? Anyway? What do we do?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Route do we go through? They're working on that like crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and may have a good solution, I'll be darned.
Speaker 4: Senators were a lot more vocal behind the scenes, urging
Speaker 4: Joe Biden not to run. The news is out today,
Speaker 4: as we've predicted around now, people are going to start
Speaker 4: running to Mark Alprin had a great podcast yesterday, the
Speaker 4: four million dollar question. He was calling it, who are
Speaker 4: the first biggest people to turn and run to book
Speaker 4: publishers to have the book written about all the things
Speaker 4: that were going on? Is it common delicious? I mean,
Speaker 4: who is it going to be? Because there are going
Speaker 4: to be a bunch of people anyway. We got some
Speaker 4: of that. We'll get into an hour three and other
Speaker 4: stuff on the way Armstrong, Hetty.
Speaker 9: The counselor says they're taking a month off for emotional
Speaker 9: and mental safety? Was your city councilor at large? Two
Speaker 9: new end uses the pronouns they them. The counselor accuses
Speaker 9: the mayor and another counselor of referring to them in
Speaker 9: a way that does not reflect their gender identity. Now
Speaker 9: new When has filed a complaint with the city's Office
Speaker 9: of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion, and investigation is underway. Last
Speaker 9: night at the council meeting, new When said they didn't
Speaker 9: feel safe come into.
Speaker 1: The council floor. One of the counselors.
Speaker 9: Knew when accused, did issue a statement essentially saying that
Speaker 9: she referred to the counsel or in a way that
Speaker 9: was an honest mistake, and she apologized.
Speaker 4: That's a woman who says she was misgendered. I don't
Speaker 4: know which direction this is, but a person who says
Speaker 4: they were misgendered and now needs a month off to
Speaker 4: feel safe.
Speaker 5: We gotta stop me too, me too, I feel completely unsafe. Oh,
Speaker 5: we gotta see in February.
Speaker 4: We got to quit acting like mental illness as something
Speaker 4: to be coddled or described in any way other than
Speaker 4: your mentally ill. You might need a month off because
Speaker 4: you're mentally ill, maybe you need to be in a
Speaker 4: hospital or something like that. But you're mentally ill, paranoid, schizophrenic,
Speaker 4: or you're you're depressed or something, But you're like clinically
Speaker 4: diagnosably mentally ill is the thing. It's not you were
Speaker 4: misgendered and you need a month off. That's not the story. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we used to treat mental illness, not affirm it.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, can you imagine what.
Speaker 4: Would you do that whole month? Get up a weekend.
Speaker 4: You'd get up and say, am I okay they called
Speaker 4: me a dude when I'm a chick or vice versa.
Speaker 4: All right, and I'm still honor right, I better go
Speaker 4: back to back.
Speaker 5: Actually, what's even funnier really is that they called him
Speaker 5: a dude when he is a dude.
Speaker 4: That was the crime. Oh well right, yeah, so but
Speaker 4: he presents as.
Speaker 1: A they them it right. Okay, So that's that story.
Speaker 4: Update you on another story that we had the drunken
Speaker 4: Southwest pilot.
Speaker 1: We now know more, but we heard what we did.
Speaker 4: Get a text from a pilot about the whole eight
Speaker 4: hours Bottle to throttle is the guideline. So eight hours
Speaker 4: between your last tip it a bottle in your mouth
Speaker 4: and when you're supposed to grab the throttle, bottle of throttle.
Speaker 4: I don't know if this guy did it or not.
Speaker 4: Let's find out. Clip twenty four Michael so I downloaded
Speaker 4: Red Note.
Speaker 10: And pilot David Allsop was taken into custody. The TSA
Speaker 10: says an officer contacted law enforcement reporting an individual in
Speaker 10: the crew screening lane who smelled of alcohol and appeared intoxicated.
Speaker 1: The flight was.
Speaker 10: Scheduled for a six oh five am take off to Chicago.
Speaker 10: According to the police report, Allsop was seated in the
Speaker 10: cockpit performing pre flight checks, the arresting officer saying he
Speaker 10: detected a strong odor of what seemed to be alcohol,
Speaker 10: adding Allsop claimed he last drank last night and had
Speaker 10: a few light beers. They conducted a sobriety test there
Speaker 10: on the jet bridge, an officer saying Allsop failed and
Speaker 10: refused a state mandated blood test. Federal regulations banned pilots
Speaker 10: from consuming alcohol within eight hours of a flight takeoff.
Speaker 10: Southwest Airlines tells ABC this pilot has been removed from duty.
Speaker 4: He is going through his pre flight checklist. Uh, do
Speaker 4: I have a vomit bag? Do I have a big
Speaker 4: greasy burger because I'm gonna need that.
Speaker 1: You get some snacks? I get some?
Speaker 4: Uh so, still still drunk from the night before is
Speaker 4: almost certainly what that is?
Speaker 1: Closed her down at two or later. And then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, you don't have the right stuff to fly
Speaker 5: for a major airline. Goodbye, good luck in your future endeavors.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. Yeah, the end of his career.
Speaker 5: But I met playing Chicago directly on Rush Street. Run
Speaker 5: into some bargain a double bourbon. Not in the party going.
Speaker 5: Who did the Were the passengers aware of this?
Speaker 4: I wonder if they were told. They probably just told
Speaker 4: there was an issue with the there's an issue with
Speaker 4: the crew, and we're going to have to Uh uh,
Speaker 4: I don't know, sit here for four hours and not
Speaker 4: tell you anything.
Speaker 5: Get backup crew in a bit of a scheduling staff
Speaker 5: who hope everybody's comfortable sitting here on the.
Speaker 1: Tarmac for hours.
Speaker 4: Pilot was drunk off his a and and so we're
Speaker 4: going to get you a new pilot. He was, He
Speaker 4: was torking his way down the rimp and hitting on
Speaker 4: all the stewardesses.
Speaker 1: And so we're gonna get a new pilot.
Speaker 5: Now, you have advocated in the past for a passenger
Speaker 5: vote before you turned back, and we've got a bit
Speaker 5: of a problem with the lavatory.
Speaker 4: To Oklahoma City on time. Bring him out here, I'll
Speaker 4: question him. I'll see if I think he's drunk enough
Speaker 4: to fly or not, because yeah, you don't want him
Speaker 4: to drunk drunk, but if he's just a little buzz
Speaker 4: he can fly the plane.
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, the co pilot's young, healthy and stone
Speaker 5: cold sober. I say we roll the dice. Let's tax.
Speaker 5: That is the way to do it. A passenger vote.
Speaker 5: I do want to return to the gender bending madness
Speaker 5: story about that city council person.
Speaker 1: There's a more serious side to that.
Speaker 5: Perhaps next hour more on the TikTok band decision.
Speaker 4: People are starting to talk about Joe Biden's mental state
Speaker 4: in a way they have not before.
Speaker 1: This is so freaking good. You got to stick around
Speaker 1: four hour three Armstrong and Getty