1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt 4 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt talk to not one but two of 5 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: the Steelers quarterbacks who will be on the roster today 6 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: in and both interviews are going on for r Mason 7 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Rudolph and Dwayne Haskins were both made available and both 8 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: said something kind of similar that that kind of caught 9 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: my ear. Um. They both said that the Steelers this 10 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: year offensively Yeah, and not that we didn't know this, 11 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: but this was the first from the first confirmation of 12 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: this was really here from other other players, that the 13 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Steelers had to take Matt Canada's offense and mesh it 14 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: to what Ben Roethlisberger was capable of doing, and that 15 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: as as uh, Dwayne Haskins said, you know, they had 16 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: to do that. He said, and he wasn't being disrespectful 17 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: to Ben Roethlisberger said, you know, I think it will 18 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: be a lot different with a younger quarterback. I'm sure 19 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Ben would say the same thing, you know. I mean, again, 20 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: these are just facts. I mean, there's a lot to 21 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: unpeel there. I mean, I love the same factor like 22 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: baseball stadiums, you know, you and or tominal paint the 23 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: barn read you know, I mean, I have you should 24 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: build things around that player and the traditional and the 25 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: offense of what he's known for, rollouts and move so 26 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: much of it is not ben friendly at all, you know. 27 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, and we even said this when Canada got 28 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: hired that I thought it was a hire for two 29 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: thousand twenty two. So did he do enough to lose 30 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: his job or I mean the offense wasn't pretty, we 31 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: know that. But that's a really good conversation yesterday. It's 32 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: that's a tough thing for you and I or anyone 33 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: out there listening to analyze because you only had red paint, 34 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: you know. And he don't expect the barn to be 35 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: three different colors, right, I mean, you know what I mean, 36 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: this is not the technicolor Barn. Right, It's gonna be right. 37 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: And even the game that Mason Rudolph started, right, it's 38 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: not like they had time to put a bunch of 39 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph type plays in. Het they found out he 40 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: was starting twelve hours before the game was a cod situation. 41 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: If you remember. So they ran what they would have 42 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: run with Roethlisberger in that game, not what they would 43 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: have run had Rudolph. Had they known all weeks along 44 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: Rudolph was going to be the In case people don't understand, 45 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty simple. You practiced Roethlisberger stuff all week. 46 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: Your game planned Roethlisberger stuff all week. The Hayes in 47 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: the barn, you know, I mean, all the prep work 48 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: is done. You can't just go tell it's not like 49 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: when they practiced during the week leading up to that point. Okay, Mason, 50 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: you're you're practice. You're the quarterback on Wednesday, We're gonna 51 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna run these plays for you on Wednesday, and 52 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: then the next day, Ben's gonna bends the quarterback, We're 53 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna run his place. No, he was running 54 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: Ben's plays on those days too, because they got a 55 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: prep the rest of the offense. Because you have the 56 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: ten guys on the field, you need to run the 57 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: right routes and do the right blocking assignments and all 58 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: those things for the plays they're gonna be called on Sunday. 59 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure there was a slight improv you know, Canada 60 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: a couple of things. Maybe when you ran in in 61 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: the preseason maybe, or more likely, what from the game 62 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: plan do you like best? This is the game you 63 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: know we do, because they did typically run like one 64 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: rollout per game. For Roethlisberger. There was there was one 65 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: play that you know sometimes too, that where he rolled 66 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: out of the pocket designed quarterback movement, but that was 67 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: not a staple of that not a Canada. It wasn't 68 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: the prettiest thing to watch at times either. And I'm 69 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: sure again, I'm sure when Canada took the job, they 70 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: had this conversation of we're gonna get through. This is 71 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: our quarterback this year, you know, I mean, if you 72 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: don't want the job, fine, that's what you're gonna deal with. 73 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: We've got we've got a Hall of Fame quarterback here, 74 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: he's coming back. We're gonna give him a shot to 75 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: do this and do it his way and go out 76 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: with fans in the stadium. And Canada was familiar with Ben. 77 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: It wasn't like they plucked him off the street. They 78 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: never met the guy, you know, I mean, And I'm 79 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: sure Canada also learned some things from Ben in the 80 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: meantime to you know, you know, maybe I can try 81 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: this with the next quarterback, Rudolph or whomever that will 82 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: work that I hadn't thought of a year ago, you know, 83 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: So I totally understand bringing Canada back, but I think 84 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: people need to realize he had red paint and that's 85 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: the only thing he could do, you know. I mean 86 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: the barn it was kind of watered down red and 87 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't red paint either, right right, And some of 88 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: the boards are falling off the barn. And yeah, and 89 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: again we mean no disrespect to Ben roethin Again, I 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: don't think they win nine games this season without Ben 91 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger quarterback. Absolutely, I mean I think that's a great point. 92 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean there was some a lot of bad. Yeah, 93 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it really was. And I fully expect the 94 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: quarterback play next year, no matter who it is, to 95 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: be better than it was this year. But he has 96 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: some intangibles and some qualities that whoever that guy hasn't 97 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: gonna isn't gonna have or hopes to develop some day. 98 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: You know, who knows that first fourth quarter comeback for 99 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: either one of those guys. I'm just gonna look here 100 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: at their stats real quick. Um might be the first one, 101 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: I know Haskins. Askins was three and ten as a 102 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: starter in his career with Washington. Yeah, um no, I mean, 103 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: but it's interesting that they both said the same thing. 104 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that the PR staff didn't say, hey, 105 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: say this to the meson. Rudolf does have two career 106 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: game winning drives. Okay, okay, so there's that. There's that 107 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: our fourth quarter comebacks. I guess he has one game 108 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: winning drive. Two fourth quarter comebacks, got you. So of 109 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: course there's some experience there. And well let's see what 110 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: Haskins has. Probably not any given that the fact that 111 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: they there's only four chances, yeah, three, three, No, he 112 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: has two fourth quarter comebacks in two game win he drives, 113 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: all right, so they've they've done it, they've done it. 114 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: You know, not all fourth quarter comebacks are created equal. 115 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're down one when the fourth quarter starts, 116 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: then you get the ball at midfield. You should probably 117 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: you know some of those, right, I mean, they're not 118 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: the T. J. Whatt comeback against Seattle this year, for example, 119 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: that counts as a game winning drive where what forces 120 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: a fumble in their territory, you take a knee and 121 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: kick a field goal. But if you do it over 122 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: ten years and you're still when you have fifty two 123 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: of those in your career, there's a couple of cheaps, 124 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: but there's a couple of are A lot of them 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: you earned, and most of them you are in right. 126 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: And to get to that number no matter what is insane. 127 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: But that is interesting. I mean, I'm glad everyone in 128 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: the building, including the players, realized that what Canada was 129 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: dealing with one of the other things that I don't 130 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: know our listeners. Yeah, no, I think you look at 131 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: the results and the results were obviously not good. I mean, 132 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: they average game this season, If they average twenty four 133 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: points a game next year, and you assume that the 134 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: defense is going to be better or at least good average, 135 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: if it's back to being a put their d v 136 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: o A this year, I think they finished if they 137 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: finished better than fifteen in defensive d v o A. 138 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: They stopped the run better, they still rushed the passers. 139 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 1: They expect that to be there. They'll be in the mix. 140 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: Maybe they won't be, you know, everybody's presumed Super Bowl champions, 141 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: but they'll be in the mix. They're gonna be team 142 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: more better probably, you know, I mean, the history shows that. 143 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they were set up to do 144 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: this year. The idea going into this year was that, Okay, 145 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: the defense is going to carry the team. The offense 146 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: will do enough. We got Roethlisberger in our hip pocket here. 147 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: All we can need to do is give him a 148 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: chance going into the fourth quarter, and he can win 149 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: the football game for us, and we're develop a lot 150 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: of young players in the future. The problem turned into 151 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: Stefan too. It didn't play Tysona Lululu got hurt in 152 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: the first quarter of Week two, and there therefore two 153 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: of your two of your three defensive linemen, frankly Bush 154 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: could have played better, could have played better. But yeah, 155 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: but it wasn't a flawed formula. They won if they 156 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: If they if you took the twenty defense that they 157 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: had put it on the field with that offense from 158 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: this year, they win another game at least at least 159 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: yeah right, all right, right, So if you get back 160 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: to that formula and that team last year average twenty 161 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: six points a game, Okay, Um, if you get back 162 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: to that formula where you can get it at twenty 163 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: four twenty five points, you can win a lot of 164 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: football games. I remember the day they made the Showber 165 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: trade and for a while after, and I wasn't trying 166 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: to cause waves. I think people knew him, not a 167 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: hot take kind of guy. I said, they have the 168 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: best front seven in the league, you know, I mean 169 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: that that included Ingram and Showbert, and I expected Highsmith 170 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: to take a step forward, which was true a lu 171 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: Lulu to it. I thought Bush was an up and 172 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: coming player. I have doubts about that one now, but 173 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, but had he been four of those guys 174 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: aren't in the equation, hadn't been your your seventh best 175 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: guy in your defensive front seven exactly now, it's a 176 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: different story, and had been great environment to grow. And 177 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: Showbert's next to him now too, which properly covered up. 178 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: And again, it's so difficult to judge inside linebackers off 179 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: of the season because when a lu Lulu and Hayward 180 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: are on the field, you don't have guards firing out 181 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: into your second level. I equated almost the running backs 182 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: like Okay, Nausea didn't have very good yards per carry. 183 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: Well he got a lot of it on his own, 184 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: and all right, I mean I'd rather have Nausea than Bush. 185 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean he was more impressive to me than Bush. 186 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about when when when he came 187 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: out in the draft. Bush came out in the draft, Well, 188 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: he can't get off blocks. How many two pound linebackers 189 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: get off blocks from three pound offensive line down the 190 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: list nowadays of what you look for, that's what you're 191 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: looking for. You want them. You wanted to be a 192 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: hit and run linebacker coverage and playing coverage. But if 193 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: your defensive line isn't tying anybody up with the line 194 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and he's immediately getting a guard in his 195 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: face or the fullback, yeah, you know, yeah, I don't 196 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: know that the story is written on Bush. But I mean, 197 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: again we're not breaking any news here. I expected him 198 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: in Claypool to take a big step forward this year. 199 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: So I'm not saying Claypool was disappointing, but I thought 200 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: Bush was very disappointing, you know, I mean certainly didn't 201 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: go forward, you know, I mean, there's no there's no 202 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Um. But yeah, but interesting, I mean 203 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: back to those quarterbacks, though, I find it intriguing that 204 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: they both would say that and understand exactly the balancing 205 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: act that was going on with the play calling and 206 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: coaching staff, you know, with the the quarterback you get, 207 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: and frankly, there's gonna be a balancing act next year. 208 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a rookie, maybe it's something somebody from outside 209 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: the organization that doesn't know the system as well or 210 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: doesn't audible out. I mean, there's gonna be other quarterback 211 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses. Probably one of them is going to 212 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: be in experience and just knowing what it's like to 213 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: play in NFL stadiums and deal with different blitz packages 214 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: and reading coverages and things that you didn't have to 215 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: hurdles you didn't have to jump over with seven Oh yeah, yeah, 216 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's all part of the process. But man, 217 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: if you have that great defensive makes a huge difference. 218 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: One of the other things that they both talked about, 219 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: and and this is this is you know, we talked 220 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: about the leadership vacuum that you lose when Roethlisberger's walks 221 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: out that door. Um, both guys talked about how you know, 222 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: they kind of had the check because they be for 223 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: their teams, their college teams, the quarterback quarterbacks pretty high 224 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: picked that we're you know, in Heisman conversations and stuff. 225 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: You want to check that at the door when you 226 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: walk onto this team. When you come into this team, 227 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: we're not the big guy on campus. You're gonna You're 228 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: everything is in deference to the guy who's been here 229 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: and done it for eighteen years. And so, you know, 230 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: I think both guys may be handled that a little 231 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: bit differently, I would imagine. I think I think Rudolph 232 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: was more I'm just gonna stay away from Ben and 233 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: let him do his thing. And some of that I 234 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: think was also because of COVID stuff. Hey, you stay away, 235 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: stay away from stay away from him as much as 236 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: you can. Even on game days. We're gonna keep you 237 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: guys separated, like the president Vice put them on the 238 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: same plane together, you know, right. Um. Whereas Haskins was more, 239 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: I think he was more eager to I gotta be 240 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: up here. I gotta learn everything I can from this guy, 241 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: learn a lot. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. That's interesting though, 242 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's a problem a situation as old 243 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: as time in the NFL, without doubt. I mean, you 244 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: come from no matter how big the school you're at, 245 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: you come from being the guy at the order back 246 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: position to being the best quarterback in your conference and 247 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: later let alone your college, maybe in all of the 248 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: n c a A and rarely you just handed the 249 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: keys of the car, you know. I mean, even if 250 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: the Steers draft one in the first round next year 251 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: and it's just the two guys to talk today and 252 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: macour pick it or how or whoever, They're not just 253 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: gonna hand him the key as a car and be 254 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: like take it away, son, Yea, they do it the 255 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: ben Yeah, right, Um, you know, it's it's all part 256 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: of the process. Again, we talked about it. Yes're gonna 257 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: be a fascinating offseason wall. This kind of kicked it 258 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: off a little bit today when you can get to 259 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: talk to both quarterbacks and get you know, get to 260 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: pick their head or their brains a little bit. We 261 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: assume Haskins is going to be at camp, right, yeah, 262 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the numbers for him. I looked 263 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: at those today. They could offer him a first round tender, 264 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: which would be five point five six two million dollars. Yeah, 265 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: the second round tender would put him in at three 266 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: point nine eight million. I guess that's reasonable. That's a base. Sickly, 267 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: what Rudolph's gonna count against the cap this year as well. Uh, 268 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: if that means if somebody wants him, they can come 269 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: get him, but it's in cost a second round pick, 270 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: and I don't think he wants to go secon round 271 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: pick for you right now. Uh, they could offer him 272 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: the lowest round tender, which just means you have first 273 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: right or refusal, and that would be two point four 274 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: three million. But that just means if somebody comes in 275 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: and wants him, they can come in and offer. Then 276 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: you gotta match whatever. You don't get to negotiate you 277 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: so they get they come in and say, hey, we 278 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: want to give We want to give Dwayne hask because 279 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: we believe him. Maybe somebody is a new coach this year. 280 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: I loved him coming out of college. I think he 281 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: can be The answers say the Houston Texans, Yeah, we 282 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: have cap space. We want to bring somebody in for 283 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: the fight for the job with Davis Mills. This is 284 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: five million year, we're seven seven or whatever, and the 285 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: Steelers going to go we don't want to pay him that. 286 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: You know, we're not even we don't even know if 287 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna be our starter. And then all of a sudden, 288 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: if he is, Yeah, he's not our starter. He's making 289 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: more than than Rudolph or a rookie year. So then 290 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: you get nothing and then you get nothing in return. 291 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: He just walks out the door, which is why the 292 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: tools that makes sense. That too, would be great. Yeah, 293 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: I trade Haskins for two right now. And it's and 294 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: it's not. I mean, you're talking about one point five 295 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: million dollars. We're talking a very little difference in terms 296 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: of and you still have very little tied up in 297 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: your quarterback room, right Rudolph is four million, counts four 298 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: million against the cap. Haskins when they encount four million 299 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: against the cap, and that's not fully, it's not guaranteed, 300 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: so you might not make the team and then you 301 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: get that money back. Interesting. Yeah, I'm curious how they 302 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: handle that. I mean, either one of those last two 303 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: tenders I think would make some sense, you know. I mean, 304 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: if you want to skimp and save two million with 305 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: the thought that no one's gonna blow your doors off 306 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: away and if they do, so be it. You know, 307 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: we just don't want to pay him four or five 308 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: million or whatever that number was. I could understand that too. Certainly. 309 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure every team would rather have the two than Haskins. 310 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: So I don't think he's I wouldn't think so. Yeah, 311 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: he's not touchable if you put a second round tender 312 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: on him. What's a little different about him that you 313 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: didn't mention is you can put an original round tender 314 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: on players, but he's a first so it doesn't help 315 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: you at all, help help He was a fifth round 316 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: pick and you didn't draft him, so thrown away. I 317 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: believe so because I don't think they didn't claim his contract. 318 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: They just signed him. Had that he was a free agent. 319 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: Had they had they you know, claimed him off a 320 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: waiver and that, then that's different. Then you can pick 321 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: up the fifth year option and all that stuff too, 322 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: So that's not even in play with him. Makes sense. 323 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I think it's interesting. Um, you know, 324 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: you look at the numbers for both of them. They 325 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: don't while you were But again I look at it, 326 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, from I didn't see every game Dwayne Haskins 327 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: started in Washington. I saw some of them. Um, but 328 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: I've seen every game that Mason Rudolph has started for 329 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers, and he's given him a chance to win. 330 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: He does he does in those games. I'm not saying 331 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: he's the quarterback of the future. I'm not saying he's 332 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: he has he has to be the guy. Uh, but 333 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: I think that you know, he's going to be on 334 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: this roster. He's the opening day starter. It's maybe it's 335 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of extreme example, but it's very much 336 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: the Colbert. I can line up with him today if 337 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: I have to, and I don't have to go crazy 338 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: and spend more than I should on Kirk Cousins or 339 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: trade up in the draft for a quarterback. We have 340 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: questions about or whatever overpay Mariota or whoever. There will 341 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: be somebody else outside the organization added what level. That's 342 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: what we can speculate on time and time again, so 343 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: it actually happens. Yeah, I mean, I even think that 344 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: it's not crazy to think free agency comes and goes 345 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: Steter fans will be losing their mind and Rudolph and 346 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: Haskins are still the only two in the building. And 347 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: overall the Pittsburgh Steelers let quarterback x blah blah blah 348 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: blah blah from you know, you know that could be 349 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: in the next two Yeah, right, I second round pick. Yeah, 350 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: I mean, at some point, um, you know, there's a 351 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: lot of mock drafts already starting to drop out there. 352 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: Actually did another one last night just you know, I 353 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: saw too today. I sent you that I'm gonna look 354 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,239 Speaker 1: at it at the gym when we're done here. But 355 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: Mel put his first one out and he's always down in. 356 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: You know, I think I traded. I used the Draft 357 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Network one and I trade back to thirty two and 358 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: took pick it actually well and then went from there 359 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: and got I upgraded the team. Let's go um, but 360 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: well as we get I think once we get back 361 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl and they start to get a 362 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: better grasp on you know who these guys are and 363 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: those kind of things, Well, we got labs here coming quick. Draft. 364 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: No people need to realize is the top of the 365 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, so you're gonna hear a lot of these 366 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: teams saying, oh, we'd love to trade back to twenty 367 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: or so. So I'm not even suggesting the Steelers will 368 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 1: be doing this, because I mean, but the Saints night 369 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: or whomever. It won't be as costly to move up 370 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: if there is a player a team in the middle 371 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: of the round love, because a lot of the teams 372 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: on the top are gonna be looking to go backwards. Yeah, 373 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: it's really a weird draft too, with some teams having 374 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: multiple like the Eagles have three first round picks, but 375 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: they're but they're from like fifteen through nineteen. Yeah, there's 376 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: be a lot of clusters, so it's like the Jets 377 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: to picks are pretty close. I don't even know how 378 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: I would feel about that if I would that team. 379 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you love to have the draft capital, of course, 380 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: but then it's like, okay, we got we got three 381 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: picks within four selections of each other first selection. That's 382 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: why I think that's a lot of work, right, there's 383 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: a lot that needs What if I don't love that 384 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: area in the draft, what if I'm just luke warm 385 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: on it. That's why I think a lot of those 386 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: teams might be saying, well, I'd like to pick up 387 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 1: more picks or future picks and not have two picks 388 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: in the same neighborhood, you know, I mean, you move 389 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: me back fifteen spots and give me a future first 390 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: or something like that. Just diversify a little bit more 391 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: because the top of the draft is not star and 392 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: just the logistics of it all making picks that quickly, yeah, 393 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: in succession, like the Browns did it a couple of 394 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 1: years ago with Garrett in Denzel ward Ward. But they 395 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: were four one and you had one. You knew what 396 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: it was gonna be. Right now, you're doing you know, 397 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: how many? How are you managing the mock drafts with that? Okay, 398 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: we gotta figure out, Okay, who's gonna be here? If 399 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: this guy's gone, what do we do then? How? And 400 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: then we gotta pivot. You gotta contact that guy on 401 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: the phone, turn right around and make another pick. Contact 402 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: that guy, and then turn around and make yet another pick. 403 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: There's logistics. If you're the Giant, maybe you're like, we're 404 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: definitely taking one of these tackles. Then ye have five 405 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: other guys and I'm not sure way whatever, you know, 406 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: we're going to get one of these guys. But then 407 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: it becomes a, you know, a little bit more of 408 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: a crapshoot. We'd love to get moved back five spots 409 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: and still get one of those guys and pick up 410 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: a second round pick or whatever. You know. But again, 411 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean what I've been told, and it's starting to 412 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: pass a sniff test too, that there might not be 413 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: a player in this draft that would have went in 414 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: the top ten last year. I mean, let alone quarterbacks. 415 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean maybe the two d n's, but they're not 416 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: Chase Young Bossa Garrett type players either, you know. I mean, 417 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: the tackles are strong, but are they better than Tristan Worth's. 418 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: You know, I mean the type of guys. I don't know. 419 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: It's not a star studded drink, but it's deep. But 420 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: it's deep because all those all thoseodys who want to 421 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: move back, those the COVID seniors that went back to school. 422 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: This ship absolutely and all those six of your guys. Yeah, 423 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: what that's going to do. I know people are talking 424 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: about the Steelers draft picks, and you know, they traded 425 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: some way and things of that nature, but they'll be 426 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: getting some compics. Well, yeah, and guys that were Let's say, 427 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: a guy that would have been a fifth or sixth 428 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: round pick last year now becomes an undrafted free agent 429 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: this year, right exactly because of the depth of this draft. 430 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pull punches. That's why I was critical 431 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: of the louder Mill trade up. You know, first of all, 432 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: I didn't know much about louder Mick. That's my fault. Um, 433 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: it absolutely worked out. I would make that trade. Imagine 434 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: where he's a very promising player. So I think they 435 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: made the right move. But at the time, I just thought, 436 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: well a ton about this guy they're picking from Wisconsin, 437 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: and I know next year's picks are going to have 438 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: better value than this year's picks because this deeper fifth, 439 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: sixth round neighborhood. So and a lot of people said 440 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: the sixth and seventh rounds of this past draft, we're 441 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: just all undrafted free agent types, you know what I mean. 442 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: So that's why you draft Hunter, and you know, I 443 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: mean these are guys that generally speaking would not have 444 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: been draftable players. I mean this is a very thin draft, yeah, 445 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean there's some trends and we'll get 446 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: a better grasp. I mean, what is looked at as 447 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: a thin draft right now could change. You know, Let's say, 448 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, the safety from Notre Dame goes out and 449 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: runs a four, three, five forty or something. Sure, some 450 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: of those guys, that stuff will change. They'll be like, oh, 451 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: they're top five picks any year. You know they're coming out, 452 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: but their safeties and you know, one of the best 453 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: players that drafts, the center of the best drafts, players 454 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: that drafts of safety. You know, it's not Kyler Murray, 455 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, Trevor Lawrence, ed rushers galore, you know, that 456 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: type of thing. But I'm excited to dig in, like 457 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't know who the fifth best safety is at 458 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: this point, you know. I mean that's the stuff I 459 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: need to do a lot of work on. Yeah, and 460 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: we will, and we'll get to that, and we'll continue 461 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 1: to uh, you know, we we'll do our our mock drafts. 462 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: Will probably don't know how many mock drafts you think 463 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: we did last year before we get to the Actually 464 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: we did one every day. We did one every day, 465 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: and and you know, I think it I thought, you know, 466 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: we got a lot of feedback from listeners about it. Yeah, 467 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: it helps. Not only did it help us learn the 468 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: players in the draft, but I think it helps the 469 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: listeners learn more about the process. And right, boy, I 470 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: love his player, but I can get someone similar to 471 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: him around later, I think. So let's you know, balance 472 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: that kind of thing out. I think it's a very 473 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: valuable exercise. And and to be honest, I mean most 474 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: NFL teams do some form of mock drafts, and a 475 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: lot of them will pull Mel's mock out there and 476 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: use them as references and stuff like that. I mean, 477 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: some of these national guys just to say, hey, let's 478 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: do a test run. Let's do a dress rehearsal of 479 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: what the draft might look like, and we'll use a 480 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: couple of guys mocks from the media as our guides. 481 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: And if it falls that way, what would we do 482 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: in the third round? You know? I mean it's it's valuable, yeah, 483 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: without a doubt, but we are going to take a break, 484 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: um for my uh, we'll come back. We'll have Bob Labriola, 485 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: editor of Steelers Digests and Steelers dot Com. We enjoy 486 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: talking to Bob, but every week. You couldn't do it 487 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: last week because of Bob was a little laid up. 488 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: But we'll get his thoughts on everything that's happened here 489 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: thus far, well with the game, and then the off 490 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: season and what comes next for the Steelers. Will do 491 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: that right after this. He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. 492 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.