WEBVTT - The Internet of Things

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you did? In touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech stuff from house stuff works dot com. Hello everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Pollett, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an editor at house stuff works dot com. Sending

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<v Speaker 1>across from me as usual as senior writer Jonathan Strickline.

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<v Speaker 1>No one would have believed in the last years of

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly

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<v Speaker 1>and closely by intelligence greater than man's and yet as

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<v Speaker 1>mortal as his own, that as men busied themselves about

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<v Speaker 1>their various concerns, they were being scrutinized and studied, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might

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<v Speaker 1>scrutinize the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a

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<v Speaker 1>drop of water. Burma, Why did you say, Burma? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>What we just did a double quote? Um, I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to I didn't. We were sort of going over

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<v Speaker 1>what we were going to talk about. I'm gonna throw

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan a very non curvy curveball here. Um. A while ago,

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<v Speaker 1>about maybe almost twenty years ago, is is mid nineties?

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<v Speaker 1>I uh listened to the founder of mind Spring Enterprises,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an Internet service provider here in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Charles Brewer, and he was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how in the future, um, and he wasn't talking distant future,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he was talking realistically in the next few years.

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<v Speaker 1>He was saying in the mid nineties, uh, that you

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<v Speaker 1>would have stuff in your house. It wouldn't just be

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<v Speaker 1>you connecting to the internet to use email or the web.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, in in the next few years, your stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be connected to the Internet and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk to one another. And you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about appliances and things, and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of weird. I mean, how would you do that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, at the time, we were still in a

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<v Speaker 1>very higle up world where you had to have a

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<v Speaker 1>modem attached to your computer or built into your computer

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<v Speaker 1>that dialed over the phone line and would you know,

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<v Speaker 1>connect to the internet. And it was very slow and

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<v Speaker 1>it was very spotty, and you know, it worked pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought, well that that would be kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And it seemed uh, you know, of course it's not

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<v Speaker 1>jet jet packs and uh, hoverboards, but it was at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time you know, kind of far off in

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<v Speaker 1>my head because I was thinking, I don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess people would adopt that. I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems kind of cool to me. Well, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>we really have moved on to that kind of a model,

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<v Speaker 1>although we're not quite there yet. But um, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what people call the Internet of things. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about this is that actually was contacted by

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<v Speaker 1>a alien intelligence. Yes, but that is not what I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to mention. You know, now they have to

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<v Speaker 1>visit me again, Chris, Thank you so much, because I

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<v Speaker 1>had plans this weekend anyway. No, I was also contacted

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<v Speaker 1>by a tech conference to have a panel discussion about

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<v Speaker 1>this very topic, the Internet of things, and I thought, well, heck,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm already preparing for that. Why don't we make

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<v Speaker 1>that a podcast as well? And here we are, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk a little bit about where we are right now. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still not at a point where everything is talking

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<v Speaker 1>to everything else, and there are a few different reasons

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<v Speaker 1>for that. I think one of the reasons is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like Chris was saying, you know, broadband rollout was probably

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<v Speaker 1>a little more gradual than we had anticipated when the

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<v Speaker 1>futurists were first starting to think about the possibilities of

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet of things. But that that's less of a

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<v Speaker 1>problem now for a good percentage of the population of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, as well as for many other countries.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly it's still a problem. Not everyone has broadband Internet

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<v Speaker 1>access now. In some cases, the information that these different

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<v Speaker 1>products would be sending back and forth would be very

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<v Speaker 1>small packets of data, So perhaps broadband access isn't as important.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember back as a nostalgic cast, as a slight tangent.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember buying uh. You may remember this to the

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<v Speaker 1>the age of when, um. There were publications like Yahoo

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<v Speaker 1>Internet Life back in the nineties when and there were

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<v Speaker 1>books too with Internet sites on them, and you would go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I got this Internet thing, what am I going

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it? One of the things I've had

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<v Speaker 1>in a book was this UH drink machine that was

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<v Speaker 1>hooked up to the Internet and you could and this

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<v Speaker 1>was all text. This is not you know, pretty worldwide

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<v Speaker 1>web stuff. This was You would ping the machine and

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<v Speaker 1>it would tell you how many of each drink it

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<v Speaker 1>had sold that day. And I was thinking, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can figure out how many people within the population of

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<v Speaker 1>that region had diabetes. Well was a it was a

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<v Speaker 1>college campus. Now, okay, so all of them. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're we're talking about remember when we've talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>early Internet, the places that were wired, we're basically government

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<v Speaker 1>facilities and um educational institutions. So yes, they had broad

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<v Speaker 1>basearch facilities. Exactly, they had broadband people in the the

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<v Speaker 1>computer science department and whirre their drink machine and you

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<v Speaker 1>could pin it, you know, because why not? That's more

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<v Speaker 1>or less the deal. And that was why it was interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>because why not? But yeah, I mean, and and it

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<v Speaker 1>can be useful looking at it today. You could have

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<v Speaker 1>a vendor looking at okay, well we don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>restock this one today, send somebody out there. You can,

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<v Speaker 1>you could consolidate, but back then it was just for fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Right today, it makes a lot of sense. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you own a vending machine company and you stock those

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<v Speaker 1>vending machines and you are able to look at a

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<v Speaker 1>glance and see where you need to send a delivery

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<v Speaker 1>person in order to restock those machines, then you may

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<v Speaker 1>not need as many delivery people on your staff because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to have someone go out and physically

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<v Speaker 1>check each machine, and and if the machines can alert

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<v Speaker 1>you if something's wrong, then you know to send someone

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<v Speaker 1>out to repair it. Um, there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't have to wait for a call

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<v Speaker 1>from a client or happen or for your maintenance guy

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<v Speaker 1>to happen upon it on a on a scheduled series

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<v Speaker 1>of rounds. Uh. Yeah, there are a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>reasons for it. And then we have the consumer side,

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<v Speaker 1>like actual consumer products, not just you know, commercial products, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>and the possibilities that that holds. And they're already products

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<v Speaker 1>out on the market right now that have some form

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<v Speaker 1>of network capability. Um, they don't tend to all work

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<v Speaker 1>together necessarily, like you might have a bunch of independent

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<v Speaker 1>networks within your home network. Right. So for example, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you could have a you can be purchasing your appliances

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<v Speaker 1>from a single company and you get a washer and

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<v Speaker 1>a dryer, and they have this connectivity ability so that

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<v Speaker 1>the washer and the dryer share information with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you put a load of laundry in the

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<v Speaker 1>washer and you set it to a particular kind of setting,

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<v Speaker 1>like let's say it's permanent press, it sends that information

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<v Speaker 1>to the dryer, so that the dryer already has the

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<v Speaker 1>proper settings ready to go when you transfer the wash

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<v Speaker 1>from the washer dryer, so that way you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to reset the dryer settings. It's already taken care of. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It might also even send you an alert somehow through

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<v Speaker 1>through the internet so that you know when your loads

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<v Speaker 1>laundry are done. So you might get a ping on

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<v Speaker 1>a smartphone or a tablet or your computer, or if

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to look into the future a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>your television. Because you've got internet connected televisions out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only a matter of time before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>a point where these internet connected televisions have a the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to show alerts that are related to other appliance

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<v Speaker 1>that are in your house. We're not quite there yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's mainly because the approach most companies are taking

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<v Speaker 1>is to create a proprietary communication protocol for their products. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so Company a's products do not communicate with Company bees products.

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<v Speaker 1>So unless you're buying everything from the same company, then

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<v Speaker 1>the the communication protocols aren't compatible and they don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>each other. They can't communicate. You need to C three

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<v Speaker 1>PO right there in the middle because they can speak

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<v Speaker 1>over six million different languages, including vaporators. One of their

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<v Speaker 1>first jobs was anyway, um, the point being that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the odds of you finishing that quote or yeah, never

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<v Speaker 1>tell me the odds. Many both died to bring us

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. So the the the different the different networks

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<v Speaker 1>can't really communicate with one another. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>where we are right now. But we do have lots

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<v Speaker 1>of products out there, including ones like refrigerators that can

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<v Speaker 1>talk to stove and ovens. So you've got again from

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<v Speaker 1>the same company. So you might have a refrigerator that's

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<v Speaker 1>Internet connected and you think, well, why would I want that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't a fridge that connects to the internet

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<v Speaker 1>and it actually is able to keep an inventory of

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that you put within that fridge, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's some method whether you know you want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be as seamless as possible. Ideally you would have

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<v Speaker 1>a method in there where when you put something in

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<v Speaker 1>the fridge, it automatically detected its presence, knew what it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and logged it so it would know when you put

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<v Speaker 1>it in there, uh, and it would know what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And even in a real ideal situation. It would know

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<v Speaker 1>when that product expires, so it could tell you, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got some milk in the fridge. It's about to

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<v Speaker 1>go bad because it's muscling up to the potato salad,

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to make sure you're gonna go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and drink that. Um, So just don't walk in on

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<v Speaker 1>the mayonnaise. It's dress boy. We were definitely punchy. We

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<v Speaker 1>recorded an episode that had more bloopers in it than

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<v Speaker 1>the previous previous three years of recording combined. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>all punchy now. But anyway, Yeah, the fridge would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to keep you alert on what you have in

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<v Speaker 1>your fridge. It could even give you recipes for stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you can make based upon what is in the

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerator right now. So for example, you might think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why am I gonna have for dinner tonight and you

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<v Speaker 1>could ask You could ask your refrigerator and they could say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>based upon what you've got in the fridge, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of stuff you can make. Or it may

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<v Speaker 1>say you could have this meal. You just need to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and buy this, this, and this, so the

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<v Speaker 1>ingredients are complete and and with the possibility of purchasing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff online. You could even get to a point where

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<v Speaker 1>you you you authorize through your fridge purchases. Well, and

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the the Well, there are two sort of

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<v Speaker 1>things that that occurring to me to sort of funny things. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>One of which is, there's no reason we can't do

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<v Speaker 1>this right now or or really a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just we haven't. UM. So it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a a technology that we're waiting for it to develop. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all pretty simple stuff really when you get

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<v Speaker 1>right down to it. UM. The other the other promise,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this really could be a very convenient thing

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<v Speaker 1>if they go forward with it, because it's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing that you're you're talking about that would make

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<v Speaker 1>life really easy if you have the money to buy

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of stuff and the services available to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say you have UM, your internet connected fridge

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<v Speaker 1>and the services necessary to complete this conversation. So you

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<v Speaker 1>got stuff in the fridge and some of it's starting

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<v Speaker 1>to expire and you've used some of it. So UH,

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<v Speaker 1>there are f I D tags radio frequency identification tags

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<v Speaker 1>on your things. So you have UM milk and UH,

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<v Speaker 1>you have cheese and things like that, and as you

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<v Speaker 1>use it up, the fridge realizes, hey, it's no longer

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<v Speaker 1>in the fridge. Um, so I'm going to Uh, Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>has already said that he wants more milk as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as he runs out of milk, So I'm gonna place

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<v Speaker 1>an order with the local shopping delivery company and they're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna bring Jonathan more milk and they're gonna build

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<v Speaker 1>it to his card, so he gets a regular delivery

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<v Speaker 1>of milk because he's out, and uh, the fridge has

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<v Speaker 1>automatically told his local delivery company, Hey, uh, he needs

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<v Speaker 1>milk and celery and other stuff you know that he's

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<v Speaker 1>run out of or he wants to make this this meal. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So really this could be ultra convenient because you could

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<v Speaker 1>just have stuff show up, go ahead and put it

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<v Speaker 1>in the fridge, and it just runs on a normal

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<v Speaker 1>cycle like that, so you don't have to make shopping

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<v Speaker 1>trips and uh, you don't have to look through the

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<v Speaker 1>fridge to identify what you're gonna eat. But that's all

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a well what if because in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties, when um, these types of delivery services we're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to take off, it was kind of early for

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<v Speaker 1>them to do so and I think it's scared a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, which is why you don't they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>sort of hit or miss. They're in some places but

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<v Speaker 1>not another's. They're in a enighble head down the street,

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<v Speaker 1>but they won't deliver to your house. A lot of

0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.560
<v Speaker 1>these scases back in the day, they expanded too quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>they got they got so large that they weren't able

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<v Speaker 1>to uh, to handle their own they weren't able to

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<v Speaker 1>administrate the size of the company, and so as a result,

0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.800
<v Speaker 1>they eventually collapsed in on themselves. Because it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>cheap business to be in. You know, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of warehouse management, a lot of deliveries. Uh, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a tricky business. But also I was going to mention

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<v Speaker 1>that the other possibilities. So we were talking mainly about

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<v Speaker 1>just the fridge interacting with the Internet, but it could

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<v Speaker 1>also interact with the other appliances in your home, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>your stove. So let's say that you have determined that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the fridge is suggested, Hey, you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>right ingredients here for a pot roast. Uh, And heck,

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<v Speaker 1>you can even have a crock pot that has Internet connectivity,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it starts the it starts the croc pot

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<v Speaker 1>heating up at the right time so that you just

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<v Speaker 1>all you do is dump them the radiance into it

0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and you and you walk away, um or you have

0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:09.199
<v Speaker 1>you wanna you wanna end up like baking something, and

0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:11.800
<v Speaker 1>so it ends up sending that information to the oven

0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.640
<v Speaker 1>when you're prepared, So that way, the oven starts to

0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.080
<v Speaker 1>preheat while you're actually getting your ingredients together, and you

0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.640
<v Speaker 1>never had to go and turn anything on yourself. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all controlled because the devices themselves are aware of what

0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.880
<v Speaker 1>it is you're trying to do. So this is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the promise of the Internet of things in general.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what we're talking about appliance, is that

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why we're talking about that is because those

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<v Speaker 1>are things that exist on the market right now. The

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<v Speaker 1>same sort of thing is true for experiences. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have say a smartphone, a tablet, and maybe even a

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<v Speaker 1>video game console or set top box. Uh, you can

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<v Speaker 1>have these sort of experiences right now within a separate

0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:54.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of network. So let's use Netflix as an example. Alright,

0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's say have a Netflix account and I have access

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<v Speaker 1>to a Netflix film or television show on my phone

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm watching it, and then I stop, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I pause in the middle, and then a little bit later,

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<v Speaker 1>I pick up my tablet and I watch a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more of it. It picks up right where it

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<v Speaker 1>left off, and then I pause. And then when I

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<v Speaker 1>get home, I turn on my TV and my set

0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.840
<v Speaker 1>top box that happens to have Netflix capability, and I

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<v Speaker 1>start and it picks up again right where I left off.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this is an experience that continues, and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what the context is. It follows me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>context independent, so I don't have to worry about fast

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<v Speaker 1>forwarding to get to the right section, so I can

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<v Speaker 1>pick up where I left off. It's going to just

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<v Speaker 1>do that automatically. This is a really valuable experience to consumers,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the sort of thing that the Internet of

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<v Speaker 1>Things really promises, is this idea of a seamless experience

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<v Speaker 1>where you go from environment to environment and the environment

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<v Speaker 1>adjusts to you and gives you the experience you want

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<v Speaker 1>um based upon whatever your preferences are, and it may

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<v Speaker 1>be that you have to express those preferences in a

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<v Speaker 1>very um order way, and may in fact, I would

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<v Speaker 1>guess that the early early versions of this technology are

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<v Speaker 1>going to require a lot of input on our part

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<v Speaker 1>to be to work correctly. But future systems will have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of learning behaviors build into them so that

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<v Speaker 1>based upon your behaviors in the past and the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you've already done, they can anticipate what you want

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<v Speaker 1>in the future and start to set things up so

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<v Speaker 1>that they will be ideal for you before you even

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<v Speaker 1>are necessarily conscious of it. And UH and we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>some of that too, Like the Nest thermostat is a

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<v Speaker 1>good example. So Nest thermostat is a programmable thermostat that

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<v Speaker 1>has some learning algorithms in it that can, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>based upon the way you adjust the thermostat throughout the day,

0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:48.840
<v Speaker 1>can start to automatically make those adjustments for you. And

0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you can also at any time going and manually change

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<v Speaker 1>it either in the house or building yourself, or you

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<v Speaker 1>can even access it over the internet. So there are

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity these there for other appliances that do similar things

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<v Speaker 1>to to do that. And then we've got other UH

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<v Speaker 1>possibilities as well. For example, that you you're watching TV

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<v Speaker 1>and you see a product on television and you know

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<v Speaker 1>you are the ultimate impulse buyer and you think I

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<v Speaker 1>want that. Well, with the Internet of Things, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get to a point where and a lot of companies

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<v Speaker 1>have been trying to do this, figure out a way

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<v Speaker 1>where you can if you see something on the screen

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<v Speaker 1>that you want, you can indicate I want that and

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<v Speaker 1>then go and purchase it, uh, in a very easy,

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<v Speaker 1>seamless way, so that you don't have to open up

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<v Speaker 1>a tablet or or smartphone application or pop open a

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<v Speaker 1>computer in order to say this thing I saw on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>I want that. Make that mine. Um, yeah, my TV

0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.440
<v Speaker 1>provider already does that to some extent. Yeah, yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's some of that built in. It's it's still not

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<v Speaker 1>widespread and it's still not truly seamless, but it's getting better.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's another thing where we expect to see. But

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about the Internet of Things, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to think bigger than that. Like we're still talking appliances

0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, entertainment centers and stuff, so radio's

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<v Speaker 1>TVs and computers and all that. But but this is

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<v Speaker 1>really about putting computers and sensors and actuators in lots

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<v Speaker 1>of things. Yeah, well, one of them, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most mature Internet of things environments. Is

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<v Speaker 1>the smart home where you've got uh, you know, your lights,

0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:33.480
<v Speaker 1>your climate control, your garage door, um, your the locks

0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.119
<v Speaker 1>on your front door. The sh leg Link system that

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<v Speaker 1>you uh you wrote on that for the for the website. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. Yeah, there's a you know, there's a a

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<v Speaker 1>schleg Lock article I wrote and it was a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago about the system because it was something I

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<v Speaker 1>saw at ce S where you could access the lock

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<v Speaker 1>on your front door from the internet and from a

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<v Speaker 1>smartphone you could unlock your door. So let's say that

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<v Speaker 1>you have a repairman showing up at a certain time,

0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.359
<v Speaker 1>you could, um, you can unlock the door for that person.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also do things like set up pass codes,

0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.480
<v Speaker 1>temporary pass codes. They would only work within a certain

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<v Speaker 1>block of time and outside of that they would no

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<v Speaker 1>longer work. So that way, you could give a pass

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<v Speaker 1>code to someone so that they could, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>walk your dogs or what are your plants or whatever

0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.280
<v Speaker 1>it is, and then as soon as as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>that time expand it is over, it'll just automatically lock again.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, that's that's the sort of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you can see in a smart home. That and

0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.600
<v Speaker 1>alarm systems things like that you can you can watch

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<v Speaker 1>um uh it's easy to if you have the camera setup,

0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.159
<v Speaker 1>you can see what's going on at your home. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>If if you're like me and you go, did I

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<v Speaker 1>turn on the alarm? Did I lock the door? You

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<v Speaker 1>can do you can take care of it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get down the road, you can pull over

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<v Speaker 1>and get on your smartphone and make sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>lock your door and make sure that you turn the

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<v Speaker 1>alarm on. UM and maybe the stove off, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>those kinds of things. And that's something that that is

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<v Speaker 1>already pretty well established in the market. Also, the smart

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<v Speaker 1>meters that they've been putting in a lot of cities

0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.480
<v Speaker 1>where um, they don't have to send out a meter

0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:09.000
<v Speaker 1>reader to your to check your electricity. They can check

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<v Speaker 1>that from AFAR. And what what's funny to me is

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<v Speaker 1>that it didn't move quickly enough for Google and Microsoft,

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<v Speaker 1>who have now shut down their services. Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was mostly because the uh, the companies that installed

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<v Speaker 1>the smart meters were not willing to share with Google

0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and Microsoft um. And the two companies were just saying,

0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what, if you guys aren't gonna help us out,

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.040
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna shut these down and we're not gonna mess

0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.359
<v Speaker 1>with it anymore. But I think that will eventually come back.

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<v Speaker 1>But cars to are are online in ways that they

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't been before. And and again, if we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the future, you can imagine a system, a system where

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<v Speaker 1>cars all have technology UH installed, whether it's retrofitted or

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<v Speaker 1>just off the assembly line where UH there are there

0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.360
<v Speaker 1>can be sensors like collision detection sensors and alarm systems.

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:03.479
<v Speaker 1>There can even be override systems where UH the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen this with like Google self driving cars. You

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<v Speaker 1>can you can imagine that being incorporated into vehicles off

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<v Speaker 1>the line where UM if you wanted to, you could

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<v Speaker 1>engage it so that the car drives itself and because

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<v Speaker 1>as these other UH sensors, it can navigate through traffic

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<v Speaker 1>without there being a danger of a collision, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>all the other cars are also on the same system.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've got a computer that can manage everything so

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<v Speaker 1>that you get to where you're going in the most

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<v Speaker 1>efficient manner possible, which would be a huge relief. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>theoretically you could avoid traffic jams because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>traffic jams depend upon human behavior and not necessarily something

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<v Speaker 1>uh that's actually actively blocking the street, although that could

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<v Speaker 1>happen too if there were if there were an incident

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:56.160
<v Speaker 1>where something was blocking the street, then obviously that would

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<v Speaker 1>still be a problem, although a really robust system could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially navigate around that so that the the the impact

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:08.200
<v Speaker 1>would be minimal on traffic. Uh. And you could also

0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 1>see sensors being built into the infrastructure itself, so not

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:16.760
<v Speaker 1>just the cars, but in streets uh and in the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, signs, things like that, so that it could

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<v Speaker 1>uh there, the system itself could maintain how much traffic

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:28.800
<v Speaker 1>is going across it on a given day, help change

0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:32.160
<v Speaker 1>things like traffic light patterns. Um. So you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a system that's much more flexible and can change on

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<v Speaker 1>the fly, uh and possibly possibly helps cities like Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>with their horrible, horrible traffic problems. Atlanta's way up there, guys,

0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, Atlanta. I mean, we're we're hurting and we

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<v Speaker 1>we could we could use the help. So so I

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<v Speaker 1>had some statistics. Let me read you them. UM actually

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<v Speaker 1>was if you if you're interested in reading more about

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet of Things, I would also recommend um read

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:05.680
<v Speaker 1>right Web, which is one of my favorite tech sites anyway.

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But they have a whole section on Internet of things articles, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh they had one where they quoted statistics from

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<v Speaker 1>the g s M A of All People. UM. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an organization. Uh you might know from our other

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts about cell phones. UM. But they're studying how well

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 1>connected things are because well, an Internet of things would

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 1>be beneficial for them because they are the kinds of

0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:33.400
<v Speaker 1>things that you would manage through a smartphone. So it's

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely something that they're interested in. UM. They said that, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eleven, there were about nine billion devices connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the Internet around the world. About six billion of

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<v Speaker 1>them are are something that you can carry with you.

0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 1>But by they expected uh, twenty four billion connected devices

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<v Speaker 1>and about half of those would be mobile. UM. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely something that is that is growing exponentially. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's at the same time, it's it's one of

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>those things that they're they're you know, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>everything is working the way it's supposed to and people

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>are behaving themselves, it's great because it can be real

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>time saving. UM. It can give you opportunities to to

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<v Speaker 1>do other things with your time and with your money

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and really improve efficiency and turn things off that don't

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>need to be powered on electricity. You could improve your

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:29.360
<v Speaker 1>quality of life to all kinds of people. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh so, yeah, there are a lot of potential benefits.

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and we're still not even finished with all

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the possibilities. I mean, there could be sensors built into

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>clothing should tell the clothing when it's dirty and when

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 1>it needs to be washed, and it could well what

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>would work great until you wash it and then you

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 1>know short circuits. Well, yeah, you got you have to

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>build in the right kind of fabrics so that you

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>can wash it. But we could get to a point

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:55.639
<v Speaker 1>where sensors are built into clothing so that when you

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.679
<v Speaker 1>put them in the washer, the washer detects from the

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>sensors what kind of clothes they are and what kind

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 1>of cycle it needs to go through. So then you

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.840
<v Speaker 1>get to a point where you know, you just need

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.199
<v Speaker 1>a robot to disrobe you and put it into the

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:09.919
<v Speaker 1>washer and other and then you don't have to do

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 1>anything else. Uh thank yeah, she needs a bonus. So

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:18.479
<v Speaker 1>the uh yeah, there's there are a lot of different

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.720
<v Speaker 1>things that could happen and and uh, you know, we're

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 1>talking about a point where these sensors and these computer

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 1>systems are pervasive. They need to be both pervasive and transparent.

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.439
<v Speaker 1>And by that, I mean for this system to be

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.880
<v Speaker 1>something that works seamlessly. You don't want to you don't

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>want to see all the wires what I'm getting at

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.679
<v Speaker 1>so uh and and there are a lot of companies

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 1>working to kind of tackle that problem. Now, there is

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:48.439
<v Speaker 1>another major concern that arises out of this world of

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 1>the future. Well, one of the concerns I was thinking of,

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's not the one that you're about

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 1>to say, um, because I think the other one that

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you're about to say is bigger. But I mean it's um.

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Taking down the Internet at that point becomes a much

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:06.199
<v Speaker 1>bigger deal, because I mean you see that all the

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.880
<v Speaker 1>time in UH, in corporate America. You know, everybody has

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>a computer on their desk now, and then when something

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>happens at the network, nobody gets anything done. And that's

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>going to happen when everybody gets used to the Internet

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:22.640
<v Speaker 1>of things and suddenly there's a network outage or power outage.

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't cook, my fridge won't tell me what to make,

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.679
<v Speaker 1>and and yes it's a joke, but people. Once you

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>get reliant on that technology, when there is a glitch

0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>or a network problem or something like that, it it

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 1>throws us off. Um and it could. You know, we've

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>got all our traffic lights and everything, all our traffic

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>systems online, and oh the power grid is overwhelmed and

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>it shut down. Now the internet out grid. See when

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>you have the smart grid than the power grid's fine? No, no, no,

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.719
<v Speaker 1>you're you're totally right. And and of course a lot

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of these systems, especially the ones that are related to infrastructure,

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>would by necessity require redundant systems that are even if

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:08.959
<v Speaker 1>they are the old preconnected systems, they would be necessary. So,

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:13.479
<v Speaker 1>for example, your smart grid traffic light system may revert

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>back to a pre smart grid version so that it's

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>still working. You know, it's still working, it's just not

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just not flexible like it used to be. Um

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>or at least you get maybe the flashing red lights

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully people treated like a four was stop in Atlanta.

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a hope that you make in Vain.

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm to the point now where I'm not flexible like

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I used to be either. I can't even put on

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 1>my own shoes anymore. Um, it also would be a

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>tantalizing target for a terrorist. And I'm not just saying

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 1>that because it's alliterative, but it's the kind of thing

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>that that you know, what, if you're looking for a

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>way to disrupt people's lives and cause panic, that could

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>do it. Yeah, if you're Yeah. Part of the part

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>of the defense of that is that the Internet is

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 1>pretty darn robust and and there are a lot of

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>different ways of working around problems. But if you were

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>able to find a way to, I don't know, inflict

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 1>a a widespread virus that could uh could come up

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the works, and that could be enough to really make

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>an impact. But you know, trying to actually take down

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the Internet in the sense of I want to target

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the Internet because everyone's connected to it and if I

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>if I shut it down, then it's going to cause chaos.

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a huge endeavor. I mean, that's not something that's

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>easily done. But yeah. The other big concern, the major

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>one that I think a lot of consumers should keep

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.719
<v Speaker 1>in mind, is privacy issues. So if you've got an

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Internet of things, you've got all these sensors around you,

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and you've and on you potentially um in the various

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>things that you're carrying or possibly even wearing. Well, then

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you could be you know, worried about your privacy because

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>because the same systems that can make the environment so

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>pleasant for us and to customize our experience in such

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a way that we have the best sort of uh

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>experience possible. I mean, imagine walking through a building that

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>automatically is adjusting to your preferences so that the lighting

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 1>is just the way you would like it, and the

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the ambient noise is just what you would want. That's

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>that's a neat vision of the future. But it also

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>means that there's a system that knows that you are there.

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>They know when you're there, they know how long you're there,

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>they know when you arrived, they know where you came from,

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>they know where you went to. Because it's a if

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a big system that's keeping track of all of this,

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>then it's keeping track of you. And as you move

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 1>around and interact with the various environments around you, there

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>is a record there. You are leaving a digital footprint

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>everywhere you go, and by necessity, that footprint has to

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>be identified with you. On some level. It might be

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>a superficial level, but it has to be identified with

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you because otherwise your experience isn't customized. That's the point

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of doing it. Yeah, the whole point of doing it

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>is so that I Jonathan's trick Land as I walk

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>around in my life experience the best sort of outcomes

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>possible considering my preferences. Well if they you know, if

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>if nothing is connected to me, then there's no that

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>all it's doing is tracking that there that that someone

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>is moving around, but it doesn't know how to adjust

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, the settings were anything to make it ideal

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>for me. So that's the tradeoff is do we go

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>with this world where we have this custom experience to life?

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>This the sort of idea where we have truly manipulated

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>our environment to the fullest extent possible so that every

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>person is getting as ideal and experience as we can

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>hope to achieve. But on the flip side, every single

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>movement you make is essentially and every single thing you

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>do is essentially tracked. Now, there are a lot of

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>different ways to approach this, where you build in security

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>systems so that everything is encrypted, so that yes, everything

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>is tracked, but it's not easy for anyone outside to

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>see what you did win. But are big concerns. I mean,

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>what if you happen to be in an area where

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>a crime is committed and you don't even witness it.

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>You're not you're not a witness to this crime. You

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>were unaware that the crime had happened. And the crime

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 1>could be anything. Let's say it's robbery. So you happen

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to be in the same place at the same time

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.959
<v Speaker 1>as a robbery, but you're not in the exact same area,

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>but but it's tracked you there, and then you happen

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.719
<v Speaker 1>to be late to something, so you make a faster

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>than normal egress from the area in order to make

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>your next appointment. And uh, it could very well be

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the law enforcement when looking and reviewing records. If you're

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>leaving a digital footprint that can be traced back to

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you could say, hey, this is a person of interest

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>because look, they were there at this particular time and

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>then they left in a real hurry at at the

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, shortly after the robbery took place. And then

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>next thing you know, you're being hassled about something that

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you had no knowledge of. Or let's say that you

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>are doing something naughty, something that is frowned upon whether

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>it's illegal or an ethical or whatever. Well, now you've

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:11.239
<v Speaker 1>got a record of it everywhere. So some of us

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>who consider ourselves to be fairly ethical people might say,

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I understand, but I don't really do anything terrible,

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>so I don't see what that's a concern. Some people

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>who are truly ethical people will be saying, this is

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 1>an awful idea. I mean, whether I do anything wrong

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>is immaterial. I don't want there to be a system

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>that tracks everything I do all the time. I want

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I want privacy in my life. And uh so that

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>that is a huge hurdle. I mean, do we do

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>we adopt this world in the future where we can

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>have this kind of experience or do we shy away

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>from it because we don't want to have a living

0:32:55.880 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>record of everything we do every day until we're know

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>part of the environment as opposed to experiencing it. Yeah. Well,

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and and that's um you know, that's one of those

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>conflicts that's difficult because the the um the benefits of

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>some of this technology are pretty obvious, and you say, well,

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, I really like this stuff. I wish I

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>could do that, but I'm just not comfortable with giving

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:27.240
<v Speaker 1>up my privacy. UM, I'm one of those people. UM.

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean I could I could tell you

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>from personal experience that it's not it's not a simple

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>question to answer. Um. A lot of these technologies are

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>are things that we can implement without having to give

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>up too much your privacy. Um. And then others you know, uh,

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you have to go, well, I'm gonna have to make

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>a decision here one way or the other. Yeah, it's um,

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's definitely an exciting time to see these developments

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>take place. And I think, you know, we we are

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>looking at possibilities, but we also have to remember where that, uh,

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>this is not going to be a super fast transition,

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and some stuff probably just won't work. Because you can

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>build the best system in the world, but if people

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>don't use it the way you thought they were going

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>to use it, then it becomes a problem. And and

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the things is that it's hard to

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>predict user behavior when you're first designing a system. I

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people were very skeptical of smartphone

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>apps when smartphones because a lot of smartphone apps that

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>first came out were very much curiosities. They weren't necessarily

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>that useful. But now mobile apps that is, that is

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 1>the thing. I mean, that's the huge craze in tech, right.

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're seeing big companies scoop up small mobile

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 1>app companies for billions of dollars because it's a big deal.

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 1>So if the Internet of Things takes a route similar

0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>to the way smartphones and mobile technology and apps have,

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>then it's definitely gonna become something pervasive and hopefully more

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you full than problematic. But it's also possible that the

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>first few implementations of this kind of technology could fall flat,

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>that they just don't work the way they were anticipated to.

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>And if it's if it's a big enough failure, it

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>may mean that we don't see this Internet of things

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>truly emerge because companies may shy away from it. Yeah. Well,

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like like I was saying earlier, I mean,

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>there are some things that are already there, We're already

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>in the world. The thing is, there's I think it's

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 1>going to end up being a situation where consumer demand

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>drives a lot of things like the washer and dryer.

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>That situation where you know, the washer wood communicated the dryer,

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Hey expect a load of permanent press it's coming. Um,

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you know that may not necessarily take off, you know,

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>if it's at five option and people go, I don't

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to spend it on that. Now, having

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>an email sent to you to tell you, hey, it's

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>time to change the clothes over sticking in the in

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the dryer, um, now, that would be useful. So I

0:35:58.120 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's people are gonna say, why want that? But

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean this. It may also be one of

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>those things where a lot of these features end up

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>getting built into all models. Eventually, like it filters down

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>so it no longer becomes like a premium model of

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>a particular appliance. It just becomes a standard feature that

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>you find across all models of that appliance. And uh

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and in that case, um, you might end up slowly

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>adopting it, but uh, there are other times where you

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>might see companies just abandoned it. Another good example of

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 1>this is like three D television. You know, there's there

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of television sets out there that have

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:39.240
<v Speaker 1>three D built into them, but they're not necessarily um

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:42.879
<v Speaker 1>marketed as three D TV s. Well that that might

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>be what we see in the future with these Internet

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>connected appliances, that it's just one of the features of

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the appliance and it's not the selling feature, and that

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily priced higher because of it. Um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just one of the many things that comes with that

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<v Speaker 1>particular appliance. And the other thing that we'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>have is some sort of universal standard of communication for

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<v Speaker 1>this to truly work, or you're going to see third

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<v Speaker 1>party companies pop up and their specialty is creating some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of communication hub where different protocols can actually work

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<v Speaker 1>together with one another, at least on a superficial level. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so my point there is that if manufacturers don't

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<v Speaker 1>start looking into ways where their technologies can talk to

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<v Speaker 1>other companies technologies, a third party is going to find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to make it happen, and then they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just explode, you know, assuming that consumers care about it

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Anyway, all Right, Well, that wraps up our

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<v Speaker 1>discussion about the Internet of Things and the possibilities that

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<v Speaker 1>lie there in Uh, it'll be interesting to see this

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<v Speaker 1>develop over time. I mean, you know, it's we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the early stages already, and whether we progress much further

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